Evening Reading

by Brian Leahy, Nov 22, 2010 5:00pm PST

It's a holiday week here in the United States as we get ready to celebrate Thanksgiving with copious amounts of eating, football watching, and gaming. It will be interesting to see if Rock Band 3 or Kinect wins out with the group coming over to my place to the feast. I'm guessing Kinect will start up first so people that haven't seen it can check it out, but then we'll transition to Rock Band as per usual.

Meanwhile, I'm off to record this Friday's podcast early and will be out Wednesday through Friday. Be nice to those left on duty. Oh, and due to some technical difficulties, Xav's comparison of 2D vs. 3D in CoD: Black Ops multiplayer will hit tomorrow.

Gaming News o'the Day

Donkey Kong Country Returns review.

Halo: Reach DLC Preview - Noble Map Pack.

Apache: Air Assault review.

More details on the first Fallout: New Vegas DLC.

Links from Morning Discussion

Netflix finally launches streaming-only subscription.

iOS 4.2 is finally available for iPad.

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is anyone going to do the TSA protest?
http://www.optoutday.com/

i see both sides. tsa are assholes for the extreme pat downs. protesters would be assholes to other flyers for delaying the entire process. my guess is that not many participate because, while all the new tsa stuff sucks, peer pressure is a stronger motivator than social justice. so i'm curious to see if any shackers are going to opt for the pat downs.

of course, the tsa is warning against it (http://www.startribune.com/nation/110008914.html?elr=KArks:DCiUMEaPc:UiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUr) because of the delays, but isn't that part of what the protestors want?

personally i'm ok with the new scanners. the new pat downs sound necessary, but the motivation for the new policy (to deter pat downs) and the real world implementation are definitely cause for concern.

Nov 22, 2010 9:04pm PST

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is anyone going to do the TSA protest? http://www.optoutday.com/ i see both sides. tsa are assholes ... : mXENO
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- other TSA links if you havent been keeping up: awesome taiwanese cg animation of the issue http://www.y... : mXENO
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  I hope to enjoy the patdowns personally. Close my eyes and think of England. : OnAPaleHorse
  - oh yeah i forgot snl's skit: http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/message-from-tsa/1261478/ : mXENO
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  I'm sure once some planes crash into buildings or blow up over our airspace the same people that bitch ab... : BongSlayerB
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    wait what? : FrayLo
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      what? If they really want to hijack a plane or blow it up, they will find a way around current security m... : BongSlayerB
      
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      Maybe you're hitting the bong just a wee bit too hard. If they really want to hijack a plane or blow i : owly
      
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      The only problem with security measures is that they aren't strict enough for those that may be suspect a... : BongSlayerB
      
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      while i doubt the protest's efficacy, part of the point is to create such a big stink about it. there wo... : mXENO
      
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      exactly, they should stay home or find another means of transportation rather than screw the whole system... : BongSlayerB
      
      Bad logical arguments to be found here : FrayLo
      
      i think that's my only potential objection about the protest. it does seem quite selfish doesnt it? b... : mXENO
      
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      What do those other factors have to do with the initial argument? : Godhatesfatpeople
      
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      that crying about a pat down or body scan is trivial when there are other ways to get from A to B and tha... : BongSlayerB
      
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      Are you serious? That's your argument as to why people should stfu about the TSA. : Godhatesfatpeople
      
      If you use the lifts you get raped, government says so. But I wouldn't bother complaining, because the st... : Chipwarrior
    - your choice is to have your genitals fondled OR have a plane flown into a building, isn't it completely o... : steelsamurai
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    I don't see how being sexual assualted by a rentacop to push the scanners to the TSA guy that ordered the... : skitzo
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      you want to maybe take another crack at that sentence? : acheron
      
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      I take another hit of my crack. The fucker that ran the TSA ordered a shit ton of these scanners, then... : skitzo
      
      Much better! I thought that was what you were getting at. : acheron
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    They don't need to drop planes from the sky, they just need to create a semi-legitimate threat of it and then the government will do exactly what they want them to do: Overreact. It's a major short term goal of a couple of major terrorist strategies and it plays directly into their plans. Of course, everyone wants to be a patriot and stand up for what ol' Uncle Sam says will improve their safety even when many independent studies points out that, you know, the TSA may be a titantic waste of money
    
    "Where governments do not take an overly coercive approach, insurgents sometimes try to provoke repression and an overreaction by government forces against the general population."
    Insurgency and Terrorism: From Revolution to Apocalypse, Second Edition, Revised
    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1574881728/
    
    We're on the fast track down the shitter, dude.
    
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    They don't need to drop planes from the sky, they just need to create a semi-legitimate threat of it and : roushimsx
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      oh come on...have you ever been to a strip club? You have to pay to get a pat down there. You get a free ... : BongSlayerB
      
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      It doesn't guarantee shit other than no one is going to be clipping their nails next to you on the flight... : roushimsx
      
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      well sure it does, till they find a way around current security measures. : BongSlayerB
      
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      You're blind and naive if you believe in any semblance of an illusion of safety as a result of these inva... : roushimsx
      
      it could be worse. be thankful it's not then. : BongSlayerB
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    Those who would give up essential liberty for a small margin of safety deserve neither liberty nor safety... : Cottc Cid
    - Our forefathers would be calling us chickenshits today. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  The Opt out day only works if everyone is given Viagra 3 hours before their flight : Crimsonbeak
  - or ecstasy. The patdown would feel so good. : Boring Writer
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  http://www.dougstanhope.com/journal/2010/11/21/tsa.html : dognose
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    would you opt out? : mXENO
    - I think I might. : mathyou
  - I agree. Fuck the TSA. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  You know, I don't mind having my junk grabbed or some dude running his finger along the crack of my assho... : roushimsx
  - I'd make jokes as they grabbed my dick but I'd freak the fuck out watching Paul Blart feel up my parents.... : Smirks D
  - The hell? You are married? : Moonbase Commander
  - You should moan every time they go near your junk. : Fred Garvin
- thats the perfect timing : gyokuro
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  http://asset.soup.io/asset/1239/4130_9669_480.jpeg :) : RageQuit
  - I was just going to post this : Metatron85
  - lol terrorists have won! : Smirks D
  - rofl : Godhatesfatpeople
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  I'm luckily not planning on flying for a while, but I already did the full body scanner a few months ago ... : laurgasms
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    Fuck individual safety man, we need to PROTECT AMERICA. : roushimsx
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      I'm disappointed that I've already been through it, thinking "well fuck if they have them they must have ... : laurgasms
      
      I just accept that I could die any time I fly from some completely unforeseen circumstance and that inevi... : roushimsx
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    It's not the outline laurgasms--it's a pretty good picture of what they look like. It'd take someone w... : daVinci1980
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      I really don't give half a shit if someone with a modicum of graphics programming ability decides to put ... : laurgasms
      
      I agree with this. The person sitting in the room looking at the photos is going to be looking at so many... : boarder2
      
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      Your huge tracks of land? : DarkWolf5
      
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      My giant shitting dick nipples. : laurgasms
      
      You know the rules: pix and/or divx. : bolange
      
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      It's not that someone would do this for just your picture, obviously. It's that they'd do it for *all*... : daVinci1980
      
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      1) lol @ bald-faced lie 2) like I said earlier, I'll let you fight this fight for me. I just don't give ... : laurgasms
      
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      Bald-faced lie is funny? Por que? I'm glad that there are people in this country who still agree with ... : daVinci1980
      
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      I had never heard it before, always "bold", it's correct I suppose but amusing. I like how you really ... : laurgasms
      
      Pics for proof of your lack of caring stance! : boarder2
      
      So why not just walk around topless all the time? In most states it's perfectly legal for women to walk a... : daVinci1980
      
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      Your cavalier attitude about something you don't care about when other people clearly do is just egging t : famine101
      
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      My stance on the issue is that I respect peoples choices. If your choice is that you don't want to go in ... : laurgasms
      
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      I merely pointed out that it wasn't just the outline. You felt attacked. Get over it. : daVinci1980
      
      I want to apologize for this. I was on my way to bed and snippy. Sorry I didn't say this in a more polite... : daVinci1980
      
      Are you going to show us these tits you don't care if strangers look at or not? : Goto10
      
      you probably laugh at "dog eat dog world" too D: : MamiyaOtaru
      
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      Nah, it's not correct. Bald-face is some weird mix up. See escape goats and mind bottling. : the city
      
      Whoa, link below has my mind blown. Wtf? : the city
      
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      Is a bald-faced lie the beta male to a bold-faced lie? : givemesnacks
      
      http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Is_the_correct_term_%27bold_face_lie%27_or_%27bald_faced_lie%27_or_another_vari... : daVinci1980
      
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      I really don't give half a shit that everytime I fly I have to take the Great American Challenge. They're... : daVinci1980
      
      Uhhh, THEY might not enjoy their fist in my vag, but I think I could get into it. : laurgasms
      
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      Apparently it's not that slim: http://gizmodo.com/5690749/these-are-the-first-100-leaked-body-scans : Fred Garvin
      
      those don't look like backscatter pictures. : Agrona
  - A typical dental X-ray exposes the patient to about 2 millirems of radiation. According to one widely cit : Agrona
  - I got full body scanned too. I was deemed a special threat because I booked some one-way tickets in Europ... : steelsamurai
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  the problem is not the staff, its the administration and how the US govt has turned a whole nation into c... : CoRDS
  - It's also the staff. I've seen enough videos now to say some are power tripping or just being ridiculous ... : Fred Garvin
- If I were traveling, absolutely. : boarder2
- I'm doing a ton of flying in the near future and I'm going to wear sexy underwear. They can pat me down a... : Porkasaurus
- If I were traveling on Wednesday, I'd opt out if selected. And I'll be opting out any point in the future... : daVinci1980
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  To me, I think emphasizing the backscatter machines as the problem is a mistake. They're really just the ... : airrob
  - this is not just an internet thing: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/11/22/new-poll-suggests... : mXENO
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  Bin Laden you motherfucker. Your plan really did work. : Godhatesfatpeople
  - 9 years later: still terrorized the shit out of : Agrona
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    It's like he enrolled us in the jelly of the month club, but for terrorism. : pigvomit
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      He's the Columbia House of terrorism. : Godhatesfatpeople
      
      He's like that extra tequila shot that lead us to a life of Valtrex. : pigvomit
- I'm planning on it because I'm not a huge fan of the scanners potentially being dangerous, the TSA, but m... : KxRook
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  what does Obama think about the TSA? : gyokuro
  - it seemed mixed at first (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2010/1121/Obama-notes-travelers-plight-but-won-t-c... : mXENO
- haha - http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/11/22/travel.tsa.pat.downs/index.html?hpt=C1 "There has never b... : roushimsx
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  Was the threat to hide explosives in shoes not real? Was the threat to use liquid explosives not real? Wa... : pap26
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    Too many questions; didn't answer. : pigvomit
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      TLDR...security procedures are invasive. Whats a better way to deal with the threat? Or do we keep things... : pap26
      
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      This is serious. Either: 1. no carryons or personal items whatsoever, if you need breast milk for baby... : steelsamurai
      
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      http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/tsa-responds-passenger-outrages-underwear-search-happen/story?id=12208932 ... : pigvomit
      
      http://homelandsecuritynewswire.com/saudi-suicide-bomber-hid-ied-his-anal-cavity : mem
      
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      If you remove the shoes on x-ray machine rule, what's stopping a terrorist from trying to blow up their s... : pap26
      
      In the past year I've been in about 10 different countries. I've only had my shoes scanned in the USA, an... : steelsamurai
      
      i like number 1 of the second set. that actually sounds empowering, unlike being groped in public. actu... : mXENO
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    why can I bring a crapload of liquids on the flight still then? Separating 10 ounces into smaller contain... : steelsamurai
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      What would you suggest for "true" security rather than the appearance of one. I'm just asking because I h... : pap26
      
      true security: metal detectors and some fucking police investigating some fucking terrorists. Also, you... : Agrona
      
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      The Israelis do far better airport security than we do, and it's far less intrusive. In fact, they laugh : Bold
      
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      are there reports on how effective Israeli security is? : mXENO
      
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      It's apparently more effective than ours. Hell, TSA has never caught a single terrorist! : Bold
      
      i like sources :( : mXENO
      
      Wikipedia el Al. They've had one successful hijacking ever, 40 years ago. : daVinci1980
      
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      that's the point. There is no true security without severe inconvenience. We have to choose one or the ot... : steelsamurai
      
      Agreed, if only the decision makers (and American public) had this much sense... : ughhhhhhh
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    lol. I find it fascinating why anyone thinks this is a good idea. Hell, even Israel has said it's exces... : Sludgehead
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    Not being a retarded dickwagger and realize that these measures will not deter someone who is determined ... : the city
    - To find out "about this shit and stop it before it happens" also means giving up our privacy, i.e. wireta... : pap26
  - Shack is an interesting bunch of peoples of which I don't agree with. Then again most of the internet is.... : pap26
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    http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/744199---israelification-high-security-little-bother Next qu... : terath
    - I bet the West would reject anything that sounds like "profiling" to avoid hurting peoples sensibilities. : Chipwarrior
- I wish I had somewhere to fly to in the US. I would love to opt for the pat down just for my own amusemen... : Chipwarrior

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