Evening Reading
Over the weekend, I started Fable III and I'm enjoying it so far. I'm only about 2 hours in and I've just purchased my first bit of property after some rounds of Lute Hero for spare gold. It remains to be seen if I'll attempt to break the economy before proceeding onward or just play the game in earnest.
Gaming News o'the Day
- Get a studded glove with Michale Jackson game.
- Crackdown 2 getting new DLC.
- Bejeweled 3 coming in December.
- Call of Duty: Black Ops launch trailer released.
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replyLeahy, you are bailing out on Zombies at the wrong time! The Walking Dead was really good!
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Who's Leahy? Wot does this mean?
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He specifically talked about The Walking Dead
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Dead people come back to life to attack and eat the living, yeah right, amirite?
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This zombie show is so unrealistic!
Did you see Dawn of the Dead remake? They showed a lot of the outbreak in that.
The real reason they don't show it is that a zombie virus transmitted by bite would be a terrible way to transfer a disease. They are also holding information back about the disease for reasons of pacing and tension.
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I think you are being too harsh on the source to be honest. They wanted to be faithful to the graphic novel, so they followed it along, even with all of its plot holes. These holes are really small though. You have to do a LOT of nit picking ti actually come up with a list.
If you have seen other zombie fiction, then this is some of the best to come out since (while not really zombies) 28 Days Later.-
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I think you're kidding yourself if you think you would put questions regarding the cause of a zombie outbreak before your wife and kid. I don't know how close this show will follow the comic (which you should have read) but there is nothing in the source material close to Lost's constant plot "questions".
Also, your plot holes are so tiny it suggests you don't want to enjoy it.-
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I have mixed feelings about TWD. on the one had the production values are awesome, the action is visceral, and it's alot of fun to watch.
At the same time I'm sad that it's so derivative. And I'm not talking about the zombies genre, you can't complain about that when watching a show about zombies. :) I'm talking about stuff like waking up in a hospital and discovering the end of the world happened. hello, 28 Days Later? or even Resident Evil?
and I could go on about some stuff that happens in the comic that made me lose interest in it, but don't really want to do that.-
You make it sound like 28 Days Later invented it, http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SleptThroughTheApocalypse
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it's called storytelling. it's a plot device.
How do you introduce the reader/audience to a new setting and new people?
You start the story in the middle/after something big has already happened and set the main protagonist as someone who is discovering and learning about the world with you.
(examples of this: Star Wars, The Hobbit, LOTR, Apocalypse Now, to name just a few non-zombie related movies. Books do it too! Most fantasy/sci-fi books I've read do that for sure. But also books like The Road, The Beach, Oryx & Crake, The Raw Shark Texts, even Dante's Divine Comedy starts this way!)
I imagine there would be a LOT more complaining if the plot began with everything okay, patient zero, describing every step of the infection process, etc.
1: it demystifies the whole zombie apocalypse. Resident Evil pissed me off because it felt it needed to spoon-feed me all the facts. "zombies exist because so and so was doing this to those people to discover a cure so that, etc." I don;t know about you, but I like to think about and analyze things for myself.
2: being so specific lends itself to trying to rationalize and explain yourself over and over and you get trapped as a writer into explaining "well this is why there are zombies" and because you describe that, you now have to rationalize "this is how it spreads in a scientific tangible sense." and on and on and although it may be fascinating to some, it doesn't make a good story.
There's more, but the bottom line is, good storytelling doesn't have to be FRESH AND ORIGINAL all the time. Conventions exist for a reason. THEY WORK. I challenge you to come up with a story that is both interesting, engaging, and doesn't appear to derive itself from anything existing in literature or film.-
Sure, but something doesn't need to pick up in the same exact setting as 2 other films in order to start the story after something big has happened. There are lots of ways to use a particular storytelling technique/convention without employing the exact same immediate setting (a hospital) for your opening scene.
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oh, i agree completely.
I feel that that choice was a choice made simply based on the source material which starts it there just the same way.
That'd be like making a Superman movie and changing his origin story because it's too cliché/was used in all the other super iterations
They want to stay true to the way the comic started. And to Robert Kirkman's discredit and in some ways credit, his writing has VASTLY improved since the comic's inception over 7 years ago.-
*in all other superman iterations.
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The 90-minute episode featured similarities in style and substance to films such as Danny Boyle's '28 Days Later', however, the original writer plays down concerns surrounding the show's originality, insisting his books came first. In an interview with Entertainment Weekly, Kirkman said, "I saw 28 Days Later shortly before the first issue of Walking Dead was released. That first issue came out in October of 2003 and 28 Days Later was released in the States in June of 2003. So we were working on our second issue by the time I saw it", before adding, "Yeah. It was a little annoying. But great minds think alike, right"
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/story/the-walking-dead-came-before-28-days-later-says-creator_1178630
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didn't his partner kiss her though
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it did really well too! http://splashpage.mtv.com/2010/11/01/the-walking-dead-tv-ratings-numbers/
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Even Mad Men's first season it basically pulled in twice the numbers Rubicon did and this was way back when. I'd love for AMC to show leniency for Rubicon, but AMC is becoming a big name these days. There's a lot less of a reason for them to stick with a show with flat numbers like Rubicon when Walking Dead did so well. I don't think it'd be any surprise to anyone if AMC didn't renew the show.
And I liked Rubicon too.
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First episode, we will see how well it does down the road.
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you shoulda kept watching
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The two main characters are British too. Didn't know that...but I do recognize him from Jericho
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zombies are the new WW2
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Oh my God, I started reading the comic based on the premier/recommendations here... THIS is fucking brutal. I remember people posting about how the premier made them feel a sense of loss and hopelessness but this comic is actually getting to me. I mean, you know the characters have to die sooner or later but I just finished the prison arc... that was honestly hard to get through.
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As someone who has loved zombie related media for a long time, seeing their rise to fame is both awesome and annoying. I feel like those people who love indie music, only to have it broadcast everywhere, and the terrible frat boys all shout how they love it. Regardless of that, we're still getting an awesome series based off a great graphic novel series, as well as a bunch of movies/'shows we wouldn't otherwise have.
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zombie hipster
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