Evening Reading: My Friends Are Game Dev Story Obsessed

by Garnett Lee, Oct 18, 2010 5:00pm PDT

Well the games of fall are really pouring in now. Fallout: New Vegas this week, Fable 3 and Rock Band 3 next, and the Kinect launch and Black Ops right around the corner. Add in all the assorted others and it's easy to get completely inundated. Yet over the weekend it seemed like all I heard people talking about was Game Dev Story for the iPhone/iPod.

Here's what we've been talking about on the Shack today:

And a few random things to wrap up Monday with:

If you haven't yet, watch our very own Del Rio make his debut in Steph and Lance Go To Compton. Seriously, it's funny.
Why does it not surprise me Justin Bieber pitched a fit when he flunked his driver's license test
Part of that ridiculous sum of money Microsoft plans to spend marketing Kinect will be paying to get Kinect on 'Oprah' and 'Ellen'

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How would a game like Doom (or Doom 2) be accepted from mainstream folks and the media if it were released today? I don't mean the game itself so much as the demonic elements, the lack of narrative, just hardcore metal music going off, the Satanic imagery, etc. I think those things really contributed to the game itself kicking ass back then but I'm not sure if it would go over so well today. I'd like to see a game with just heavy metal music and straightforward blasting demons and shit.

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  So, like Painkiller. : dognose
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    I loved Painkiller! I don't remember it's music though :( Now I want to play that.. : Goto10
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      I know you loved Painkiller, silly! You made a Website for it. I have the soundtrack CD and it's all me... : dognose
      
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      the soundtrack to that game rules \m/ : Megara9
      
      Can't think of much about that game that doesn't : dognose
  - Painkiller always felt like Quake meets Heretic to me...I loved it for that...but it was different than D... : Vorlonesque
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  It'd go over fine. Games are just as goofy now setting and visuals wise as they were back then. Gears... : SpaecKow
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    The DOOM palette (left) has 249 unique colors. the Quake palette (right) only 226 unique colors. Both use : the archvile
    - I didn't mean palette in the literal indexed image sense but yeah okay that too. : SpaecKow
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  It would probably have a small, niche audience because it would be labeled as retro or indie. It would ha... : BlackCat9
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    Doom is longer and less linear than most if not all SP campaigns today. : SpaecKow
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      Doom 1? I think most people could probably beat the first three campaigns within 2-4 hours these days. Do... : BlackCat9
      
      Yeah, I co-op'd Doom2 with that new wad file ripped from the 360 DLC a few months ago. Me and Orange P... : watcherxp
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  Did you forget that Dante's Inferno game? : Dave-A
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    Yeah but people did make fun of that game a lot and it wasn't exactly that popular, so that's prob not th... : SpaecKow
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      That was because it was an incredibly inept use of an epic poem, and an ordinary game. Not because it spe... : Dave-A
      
      i only bought this last week. :( i have yet to play, but it was super cheap : CoRDS
      
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      Yep, but one cannot help but conflate these two separate elements when judging the success of the game, b... : SpaecKow
      
      Actually we'll have our exact answer when we see how Bulletstorm does when it comes out. : SpaecKow
      
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      actually it utilized the poem a lot better than I was expecting. it mostly stuck with it aside from Dant... : mikecyb
      
      I think the scorn ladled upon it was more about Dante being a cliched vengeance-driven Kratos-style over-... : Dave-A
      
      For a first shot at that particular type of game with huge fucking shoes to fill, I felt they did a prett... : Halen
  - Yeah, thanks for reminding me. : Goto10
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  It's like you can kill children in Deus Ex and how say Shadow Warrior had nudity and racist humor in it. ... : tcs
  - You could kill kids in bioshock : SigENeaT
  - Back in the day when I played Shadow Warrior, i was like: "Awesome! An Asian protagonist!" Come to thi... : Rice-Rocketeer
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  AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! - A Reckless Disregard for Gravity is an example of something like that rele... : the archvile
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    so...a totally different game? : OhSnapHighFive
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      It has no narrative and plenty of rock music. : the archvile
      
      So it's like Rock Band? : briktal
- if Doom as it existed when it came out never existed and the timeline of video games remained the same an... : mikecyb
- Yes, because you have a whole generation of PC gamers who became not only PC gamers, but gamers in genera... : freakynipples69
- I would look and see how the mainstream folks and media accept Duke Nukem Forever when it ships. : Sturm08
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  I think it would be received fine because Gears does a lot of the same sort of things that you mention th... : Begawkiness
  - It was mainly the demon, pentagrams, tied in with the metal music I thought the news outlets would have a... : Goto10
  - Gears is also a slower paced cover based sort of game...where DOOM is about as run and gun crazy as it ge... : Vorlonesque
- I think the main factor in the equation that's changed is how much competition there is today. Back when ... : Schnapple
- i think it would fail in the mainstream market. it might be picked up by a small group of hardcore gamer... : Korban
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  I would love something like DOOM2 deathmatch but with 3d gameplay...hell I'd just like more games to do o... : Vorlonesque
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    Also, DOOM changed my life. Literally. It got me into not only PC gaming, but PCs...I didn't really care much about the computer before DOOM...it was just a novelty and the SNES with SF2 was my gaming universe...and then DOOM came and changed that.
    
    I got into config.sys files and autoexec.bat files...I jumped through hoops to get DOOM shareware running on my high school typing lab computers for deathmatch when said computers didn't have hard-drives but had 8 megs of ram (I basically researched and implemented a process that each player would use involving a boot disk and two (or was it three) install floppies and a procedure that had to be followed to the letter to boot up the machine with the minimal drivers and what-have-you, then load up the network stuff, and then install DOOM 1.2 shareware (1.666 and greater were too big for the ram drive by a few hundred kilobytes in order to have enough ram to run the game left over)). I wrote up detailed instructions so that other classes could also enjoy the fruits of my labor and we went through a 5-15 minute ordeal each day to play DOOM deathmatch and it was worth it.
    
    That was what really got me pulled completely into computers...it was at that point that I was on the path to deciding to be a programmer. I'd probably have a completely different career if it weren't for DOOM...and I would have had far less fun.
    
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    Also, DOOM changed my life. Literally. It got me into not only PC gaming, but PCs...I didn't really car... : Vorlonesque
    - I have a very similar story... Writing code by age 12 just to get Doom to do things that it previously c... : JPMcWhiskers
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- I can't decide whether or not it'd be common-fare, or more poorly received because of it's fantastical de... : JPMcWhiskers

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