Evening Reading: My Friends Are Game Dev Story Obsessed

by Garnett Lee, Oct 18, 2010 5:00pm PDT

Well the games of fall are really pouring in now. Fallout: New Vegas this week, Fable 3 and Rock Band 3 next, and the Kinect launch and Black Ops right around the corner. Add in all the assorted others and it's easy to get completely inundated. Yet over the weekend it seemed like all I heard people talking about was Game Dev Story for the iPhone/iPod.

Here's what we've been talking about on the Shack today:

And a few random things to wrap up Monday with:

If you haven't yet, watch our very own Del Rio make his debut in Steph and Lance Go To Compton. Seriously, it's funny.
Why does it not surprise me Justin Bieber pitched a fit when he flunked his driver's license test
Part of that ridiculous sum of money Microsoft plans to spend marketing Kinect will be paying to get Kinect on 'Oprah' and 'Ellen'

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Game Dev Story / Piracy thread

I watched a video for this on YouTube. The gist of the game is that it's a tycoon-style sim where you run a game development company.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsMMnnOp7RU

The second comment on YouTube at the time was, "has anyone crackedï»¿ this app yet". So, somebody wants to play a game where you're playing a game developer while simultaneously stealing money from the developer who made the game. I'm not sure if that's more sad or ironic. If they didn't add it to this version, then the next version should take into account the piracy rate for your games and give you options to ship your game with different types of DRM, each of which reduces the piracy rate but causes backlash among your fans depending on how draconian it is.

Oct 18, 2010 5:10pm PDT

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Game Dev Story / Piracy thread I watched a video for this on YouTube. The gist of the game is that it'... : BlackCat9
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  I know I yearn for a dream world that will never exist, but none of this would be an issue if malicious h... : action wombmate
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    They don't do it because they give a shit about playing someones shitty game. They do it because it's fun... : MagicWishMonkey
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      If they kept it to themselves, that would be all fine & dandy. But we both know they don't always do tha... : action wombmate
      
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      It's only worthwhile if you can tell people about it. Think of it as a nerd dick measuring contest. : MagicWishMonkey
      
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      If at all possible, that makes it even less acceptable. : action wombmate
      
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      I don't think they care much about what you consider acceptable. : MagicWishMonkey
      
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      Exactly the problem. They're social fuckwits who don't think about anyone else. : action wombmate
      
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      Most people don't think about anyone else, social fuckwits or otherwise. : MagicWishMonkey
      
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      Good to know you have your finger on the pulse of "most people". : action wombmate
      
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      It's nice that you think that hackers/crackers are all social fuckwits. I'm sure they fit in pretty well ... : MagicWishMonkey
      
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      I'm talking about malicious hackers, as stated in my first post. Sure they fit in well within their circ... : action wombmate
      
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      Right. Hackers are just like gang members. : MagicWishMonkey
      
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      That's not what I said and you know it. Stop sidestepping. : action wombmate
      
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      I'm just giving you shit. I don't think hackers are that bad, they force software developers to take secu... : MagicWishMonkey
      
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      I feel that I need to reiterate once again that I'm talking about malicious hacking/cracking. I know that... : action wombmate
      
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      It's inherently a grey area. But "white-hat" hackers are tolerated because they are useful. iphone hacker... : terath
      
      I'm talking about the very specific scenario in which someone breaks a game, and then makes it available ... : action wombmate
    - This is both truth and bullshit. I toyed with this stuff a lot but I never released shit. Malicious are t... : TheNiXXeD
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    It's not just the hackers. People have been getting screwed by DRM and such before piracy was rampant. It... : Robotic Puppy Eater
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      Are you saying that piracy wasn't such a big problem until DRM came along? I think piracy has always been... : BlackCat9
      
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      Yeah I'm not sure wtf he's talking about either. : action wombmate
      
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      Piracy was at a different level before internet access became common. Trading games with your friends is ... : Robotic Puppy Eater
      
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      I remember going to a Hastings store in 1996-7 and renting Hexen II (yeah, I know, PC game rentals!). We... : action wombmate
      
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      Clearly your single example renders my entire point invalid. : Robotic Puppy Eater
      
      Your entire point was invalid the second you typed it. : walker270
      
      Invalid enough. There wasn't always DRM that was so convoluted as to screw over regular consumers. The ... : action wombmate
      
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      piracy was pretty rampant in the BBS days, when copy protection was nothing but answering a few question based on the game manual
      
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      piracy was pretty rampant in the BBS days, when copy protection was nothing but answering a few question ... : CecilPhilpot
    - What? DRM was the original (bad) answer to software piracy. : daVinci1980
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    Yeah, screw them except when I need to jailbreak my iphone. :/ : terath
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      I'm not sure how this is relevant. : action wombmate
      
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      You said you wished malicious hackers never exist. I pointed out a situation in which people think it's o... : terath
      
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      I still don't quite see how jailbreaking an iphone is the same as facilitating the dispersal of a game, b... : action wombmate
      
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      Most of the "crackers" don't disperse games at all. They'll tell you that they do it for fun and/or for c... : terath
      
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  They spoke about this on Weekend Confirmed. It sounded -so- interesting. : LoioshDwaggie
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  "comment on YouTube" : the archvile
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    it's like goatse in text : PixelPie
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  Except sadly the reality is that DRM does not reduce the piracy rate. Hardware locks like the PS3 and XBO... : terath
- Unfortunately these days its either that or "I just picked up this game used" or "I just rented this game... : Dynotaku
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  I pirate cheese, try and stop me! : PixelPie
  - As long as you are pirating a copy and not the original no sale is lost. : dognose
- There will always be piracy, for lots of different reasons. Learn to live with it. As for game devs, its ... : stygian_whisper
- The game publisher is trying to get people to work for peanuts, work overtime and weekends for free, not ... : Lucy Labia
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  if you played the game you would find that comment hilarious : thechunder
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    I did, what's why I posted about it. Is there another reason I should find it hilarious, though? : BlackCat9
    - That is to say, I haven't played it, but I did find it hilarious. : BlackCat9
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    Don't Copy That 2 was not nearly as good as the original. : Haxim
    - Truth. It's message was completely muddy. I liked the 'future' aspect to it. and the scenes with 'DP' : lukej1337

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