Evening Reading: My Friends Are Game Dev Story Obsessed

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  zerg op : indosauros
  • It's about time! : DM7
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  In a nutshell: Terran has no more early game. Roaches are overpowered. Voidrays are no longer OP. ... : InfoBiter
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    The terran early game is still very much there, its just not all about reapers any more : maulla
    • The terran early, early game is gone. : frenziedbadger
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      There are still early game plays, sure, but for the most part it's more tech oriented (stim timing pushes... : InfoBiter
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        Haha I had someone rage on me over attacking his SCV building the supply depot. I told him to pull off a... : cetra00
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          I haven't actually had it happen to me, but I've done it to others ... and it really is just stupid as fu... : InfoBiter
          • Isn't that technically a good thing since it prevents terran early wall-ins? : JuffoWup
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        I think the terrans in MLG showed that early reaper + bunker harass is still very viable against zerg. ... : maulla
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          woah woah woah, I saw the "reaper harass" in that. It was restricted to 2 reapers. Max. And quick transit... : frenziedbadger
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            idra beat qxc one time he got a bunker about halfway built, so it was stopped, but it didnt seem to set b... : threeup
            • That's the real point actually. Idra goes straight for a hatchery at 14. That's an ultrafast expand. And ... : frenziedbadger
          • oh noooooooo terran has to do something perfectly for it to execute properly! : maulla
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    have you even played with the new patch? or just copying what the diamond and play players are saying? : radula
    • I have no idea what other players are saying, I don't pay attention to that shit. : InfoBiter
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    cmon dude roaches are not OP, they still aren't even that great : kainen1
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      stop-gap between zerglings and mutas/hydras : radula
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        infestors/banelings can fit that roll even better in certain scenarios : kainen1
        • exactly, i'd probably go roaches by default against protoss, and banelings against terran. unless i'm pu... : radula
  • Oh no, zergs no longer have to have 100apm to a terrans 15apm to compete. /sarcasm. Its more balanced ... : chilln
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  It's fucking brilliant. : abrasion
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    What have you done with abrasion? also, I agree! : SqueegyTBS
    • I only call out bad shit when I think bad shit is occuring. : abrasion
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  The only thing I have to complain about is the depot before barracks change as Terran. I don't have any t... : theangrywaffles
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    How do you 5 pool? You kill one of your drone before making a pool? : razlebol
    • Err, that should be 6 pool. : theangrywaffles
    • GAS! : radula
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      You make 5 pools. : gia-
      • I told my cousin his Protoss build order should probably be 9 pylon, gateway... I didn't notice until ... : famine101
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        Am I doing it right? http://serpico74.shackspace.com/6pool.jpg : Serpico74
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          no, that wall is supposed to be zergling-tight : veras
          • Shit, I'll do better next time : Serpico74
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  People seem to be overreacting without actually testing the new changes.
  Personally I think the roach change is a good one. They seem to be able to get a few shots off now, when before they would run in and die to marauder shots before getting close enough.
  The barracks change is unfortunate, and I suspect it will get reverted and replaced with something less contrived.
  The voidray 'nerf' also included a buff to their uncharged state, which may make them more appealing in situations other than sniping buildings.
  Banelings are still awesome.

  Oct 18, 2010 6:06pm PDT
  People seem to be overreacting without actually testing the new changes. Personally I think the roach c... : CtrlFrk
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  Platinum level Zerg here. I definitely feel less pressure in the early game, especially from T. I've tran... : dearjamie
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    queens! roach vs helion harass Queens vs banshee (u prob need 2 queen per hatch) Queens dun use la... : Gapyro
    • i usually transit into a zergling baneling for their MM ball and some roaches/muta (good for their mediva... : Gapyro
    • I read your name as Gaypro at first and it took me a second. : deject
• Roaches do less of the benny hill pathing dance to make a concave. Awesome. : On the Brane
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  Terran tears are delicious. Seems like Terran harass in TvZ is less than a guarantee, and the Terran p... : walker270
  • "Ah, the suffering. The sweet suffering." - Pinhead : capt tripps
  • yea thou i wonder what kind of air harass can terran pull off now that reaper is gone // at least its... : Gapyro
• i asked in MD, but does anyone knows there is a function like /played or someplace I can check my total l... : barichnikov
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  What did you guys think about first day of Gom season 2? I just got done watching all and loved it. bt... : Lionel2b
  • early! an hour and a half i think? i'll have to catch the replays when i get home from work, before the ... : radula
  • yep! TLO plays tonight. wtf, had no idea it was playing at night in EST time also. : Lionel2b
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  I like voidrays super early vs marines since they have improved initialdamage -- then switch into speedlo... : threeup
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    Are zealots really that good against marines? I always thought stalkers were better : sammyl
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      Zealots eat them up. Get leg upgrades on them and its crazy. : Serpico74
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        without upgrades it is painful to use zealots : threeup
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          I agree. They're fucking useless without charge. : Dr_Cube
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            you can use sentry walls behind them, but you get shot at for like 3 seconds to bridge that gap : threeup
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              Yup. Without charge I really can't use them offensively, especially against terran. They lose a lot of he... : Dr_Cube
              • Against Marauders, absolutely. Against marines, different story. As usual it really depends on the unit m... : Serpico74
    • they're both decent, but it really depends on the numbers involved. A huge amount of marines will rape z... : valael
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  it is still a gay game and stresses me out :( : PlanetPerfecto
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    You wouldn't stress as much if you took the time to learn. It's so great :D : midgetherder
    • shut up ho I am trying 2 make money :(((( also you know I do like the game I am just being a gaybo ... : PlanetPerfecto
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  anyone have any decent links for GOM day 2? Watching http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=... : aeg1x
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    what about just watching the low quality stream for free? : valael
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      its all stuttery :( : aeg1x
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        http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=Roffles ? or any of the other restreams on tl.net.... : valael
        • http://www.justin.tv/zakonia#/w/478101472/4 this looks good : Gapyro
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  Roaches should not have gotten the range upgrade and marauders still need to lose stim and concussive she... : Dr_Cube
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    Why? Roaches are just good now, nothing op about it : kainen1
    • Why did they need the range upgrade to begin with? They're damage sponges already. Besides, the tactic is... : Dr_Cube
  • stim AND concussive shell? Stop smoking whatever you are smoking : moshman
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    If they nerf marauders by taking away stim and concussive shells, they'll be nearly useless. : deject
    • I mean and nerf concussive shells, not remove them completely. : deject
• BM still reign supreme. :( I had a protoss player who tried to proxy pylon, and I held it out. I was p... : daVinci1980
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  I still have trouble vs terran late game as zerg. hellions rape my zerglings, tanks rape hydras/roaches, ... : gibolas1234
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    did you fight in mid game? stop them expanding? if you are both turtling, then you have to outresource... : radula
    • yeah, my army was never really larger than his. hellions made it very difficult to expand. He didn't expa... : gibolas1234
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    I used to be afraid of terrans, but im the least scared of them now actually... with the gay-ass reaper s... : chilln
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      I usually try to attack early game now with a baneling bust because their late is so strong vs zerg. : gibolas1234
      • yeah, Im just sick of terrans complaining cuz the game is more even keel now. I was ALWAYS fighting uphil... : chilln
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  Ooh, apple is using one of my favorite TvZ strats early ignitor hellions : InfoBiter
  • a group of marines and marauders with those is tough to deal with as zerg : gibolas1234
  • blue flame hurts! : radula