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• Server Renders! MercFox1 Bird's Eye View: http://box.nevernet.com/~djr/mc/render.png Angled: http:// : Dong Patrol
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  Would someone be kind enough to link me to a good texture pack, I'm still using the default ones and some... : Durajim
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    http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24128099#itemanchor_24128099 Thanks to Arctic! : Nerdsbeware
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      Painterly Pack is updated too frequently to bother with someone's self-hosted files. Use the website ins... : Sapiens
      • and you can preview/pick all the textures on their site and it'll build a download pack based on what you... : cptstern
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    I'm a big fan of this one: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=31331 Four times the ... : Fpsnut
    • This is an HD pack I'm really looking forward to: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=5... : Fpsnut
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  Shadowdane's Server We had a corruption issue last night that corrupted about half the map, maybe more... : Shadowdane
  • Could it have been from my exploration to the north? : liqker
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    it's interesting that the regen of the corrupted areas doesn't seem to take into account what's next to i... : swiftB3
    • i think that is due to the map being corrupted once before... it got corrupted about 2-3 weeks ago duri... : Shadowdane
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    That is the coolest map ever! : Xencer
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      yah it would of made for a really odd map when it filled in mismatching landscape... a few peoples sett... : Shadowdane
      • i'm sort of a build something, move on, kind of guy. so any of my structures are nuke-able. : liqker
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  How are you guys doing your auto renders? I want it to run a couple of times a day and upload to my shack... : nodebug
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    i have a batch file that does it... i can send it to you later if you want. : Shadowdane
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      That would be awesome, yes please! : nodebug
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        i'll send it when i get home from work... you using a server plugin that does backups?? the batch fil... : Shadowdane
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          Yep, Just started using MCAdmin the other day so that should be fine. Thanks again. : nodebug
          • gotcha... yah it will work fine with that. : Shadowdane
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    Shadow doesn't do automated renders, I don't think. I believe he's manually uploading the files every fe... : foo
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      I stand corrected. I'll just leave now. : foo
      • originally i was doing it manually, but finally found a decent command-line FTP client to upload the rend... : Shadowdane
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  So I actually played Minecraft for the first time this morning. I setup my little cave home, huddling awa... : freakynipples69
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    not sure what to think of that last statement :\ : uebersoldat
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      Come on, you know it'd be awesome if the zombies in Minecraft looked like L4D zombies! : freakynipples69
      • Source can't do anything like Minecraft, it still uses BSP which has to have pre-compiled levels. : Shadowdane
      • The magic is in the 8-bit for me, but I understand how awesome a different game would be similar to Minec... : uebersoldat
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        The cube world would look stupid if they tried to give it realistic graphics. It only works because of th... : Zek
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          I agree, but only as far as the texture resolution goes. Personally I'd love per-pixel light mapping and... : Rotten Deadite
          • i'd be satisfied if he just turned on anisotropic filtering. textures look like ass off in the distance.... : electroly
      • not really. half the allure is the charming retro graphics : cptstern
      • I disagree. I find the more simplified graphics just easier to deal with for the eye. For example I never... : BeowolfSchaefer
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    This game would be so much more awesome if it was running on Source. I really really hope Valve just rips : MercFox1
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      Yo, punk, where have you been lately? : Arctic Fox
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        Epic Quest arc in real life. One of the rewards was a BOE "Girlfriend" (rare edition, no proc chance for : MercFox1
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          In other words, merc was on a 2 week psychiatric confinement. : dnagenome
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            Pussy whipped : Arctic Fox
            • Hmm I think this case might go beyond whipped. : dnagenome
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  can someone add me as a builder on mercfox's server? "mrvandelay" : mrvandelay
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    Are you online now? I can't do it unless you're in-game : Arctic Fox
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      yep - on as "mrvandelay" : mrvandelay
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        be right there : Arctic Fox
        • Ù¨Done and Ù§done. : Arctic Fox
    • Oh me too. I should be in. : BBIJ
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    Can someone add me, too? I'm Linearskillz. BTW: This place is AWESOME. OMG! Something cool everywhere ... : dpgagnon
    • done : Arctic Fox
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  asplode.dyndns.org Yesterday's carnage: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1307196/day4.png Today's map: http://dl... : Haxim
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    should leave the maps up for longer to get massive destruction! :) : Shadowdane
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      Yeah, I'll probably switch to a 3 day rotation or something after this one. I just wanted to make sure pe... : Haxim
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        Plus, wtf is up with people building anything on this map? I mean, if you wanna build something for the ... : Rotten Deadite
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          Today's map is from my old server before it crashed horribly. : Haxim
          • I miss that server, was fun. :( : DHAvatar
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  Underground Rail Arctic Fox... I need to have a discussion about Isengard underground train line hooku... : conandan
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    Go to Orthanc, and once in the basement (the level below the forge) take either the long stairs or the qu : Arctic Fox
    • Freaking sweet! : conandan
    • conandan, you really need to talk to dnagenome. He has tunnels EVERYWHERE and even has a whole station bu... : EricZBA
  • Do you have any kind of drawing that shows where you're planning on laying tracks? If it's not too far I'... : hoov1185
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    has anyone mapped out the proposed train line routes? : Clay
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      I think its rather simple. I will do 4 main lines from the station near the maze ( its all underground..... : conandan
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        http://www.shackpics.com/files/TrainLines10152010_lxrfosj1qaf03s6qel3f.png Red: Already Built Blue: Pro... : conandan
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          Very nice. I'd be happy to help extend that eastern tunnel further and make stops that connect to mine an... : BeowolfSchaefer
          • Yea I'm out in that direction to, I'll help out when I can. : Finchypoo
        • conandan your blue line will cross my southern line. there is basically a cross pattern going from my pl... : dnagenome
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          shouldn't the main station be under Duke or Spawn? : Clay
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            but yeah I definitely want in, I think the sky canal is ugly :( : Clay
            • useful, but ugly. I would like to reach a point where we can ditch them (although the thought of removing... : Finchypoo
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            Well. With the amount of space that tack switching and redstone lines will take I decided to build in an ... : conandan
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              Also, I am paying DIAMOnDS for iron. Doesn't even have to be smelted. : conandan
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                how many diamonds per iron are we talking? : Hemtroll
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                  Depends on what you think is a fair trade : conandan
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                    I never use mine, because well, there just isn't any use for it since all I would use ores for is buildin... : noxiousgg
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                      Most of it isn't smelted though, unfortunately. : noxiousgg
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                        I definitely want!!!!!! : conandan
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                          I have a TON of iron saved up, I would be more than happy to donate / use it to create the rail across th... : YerMothah
                          • you are more than welcome to drop it off at the Station, I have a chest set up there just for ores. : conandan
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            yeah i'm kind of with clay on this one, you'll need a hub near duke/spawn that can transport people to th... : MurrayTheSkull
            • also, i have iron for you, so get the f on merc's so i can give it to you : MurrayTheSkull
        • I can help you build the one running right past the YOUR MOTHER and LOL, since thats my area. : YerMothah
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          It would be awesome if it was done in glass where it passed through the lake there, somewhat similar to t... : dfay
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            I like all this except the wow reference :P But seriously glass tunnels for the rail when going unde... : BeowolfSchaefer
            • I don't think myself or conandan are going that shallow with the lines. I'm just one layer above the typ... : dnagenome
        • Nice, keep heading North and you'll run right next to my Haus ... might even tunnel into one of my mines. : hoov1185
  • You can bring it to Minas Tirith : foo
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    just don't smash my shit. : RogerDandy
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      please all... if you have important structures in this pathway that are at bedrock, let me know and I wil... : conandan
      • I doubt you'll hit my stuff i'm under the north front lawn at isengard but you'll have an easy time there... : RogerDandy
  • Hey Conan, we can run it from the dome up to my pyramid then back east for the hookin to spawn area? : Matto357
  • Underground Rail thoughts: I guess I missed the discussion when it started, but why underground? I lov... : Finchypoo
  • I'd love a stop at my place. I've got the big wall north of spawn, maddogs canal goes right through it : Reeves
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  good morning MC crew. i <3 u guyz. : m0rfus
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    no gay stuff : Hemtroll
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      he means no ball touching, everything else is ok. : uebersoldat
      • thats why we use eye patches on the balls. : m0rfus
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  Was there any glass griefing overnight? : foo
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    what kind of glass griefing are we talking about here : boring gegtik
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      People breaking glass that is a part of someone elses structure. There's a few users who broke a metric ... : foo
      • Where was Crabs???!!!!???? : dnagenome
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        I broke a huge amount, but it was my own stuff : Clay
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          I have my eye on you!! : james_austintx
          • haven't blown up your stuff yet : Clay
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        does it log coordinates where the stuff was broken? : Hemtroll
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          Yes, check your SM : foo
          • I'll run through and check the rest of these in a little bit, if someone discovers griefing in their shit... : Hemtroll
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        Well, Crabs claimed that somebody broke some things at his castle. Part of the reason why he was so cran... : Maddog_Delphi97
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          Yeah, unfortunately that happened before I enabled logging of glass breaking.. : foo
          • Ah good. Ask Crabs for information you can use to track it down again. : Maddog_Delphi97
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          Get us your coordinates!

          Oct 15, 2010 9:59am PDT
          paging Crabs Jarrard Get us your coordinates! : Hemtroll
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        foo I think tree leaves are registering as glass. I was on last night pruning a bunch of my new growths a... : eonix
        • Well that's probably not good : foo
      • I guess I better log in and check my roof. : Vincent Grayson
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  Is boating faster than walking? If so I'm building a sky canal from my base to my garage. Please let me k... : TurnTheValve
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    Yes : YerMothah
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      Awesome. Question 2. On snow levels, to get water to not freeze do you need a torch by every square or wi... : TurnTheValve
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        lava block in the center works as well I believe, like make a 3x3 square of glass, lava in the center. : Nerdsbeware
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          No room for lava this is a sky canal. It's cross section looks like... W is water x is stone X w X X X X : TurnTheValve
          • You better make it two waters wide. The boat is slightly wider than one block. : rick
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            You need more than 1 block width to travel in a boat on water. 2 is doable. 3 is safe. 4 or more is best.... : conandan
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              Yeahhh I finished it and then realized that. Plus side is it's not hard to fix. Down side is I built it ... : TurnTheValve
              • Just do this: XWXX XXXX Then XWWX XXXX : rick
            • Yeah, one or two wide and you are going to smash through a boat every dozen meters or so. : Gwyndion
          • I wonder if you did something like this for instance: XwwX XGGX XLLX XXXX If that would work? W... : Nerdsbeware
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    how do you get the water up to the "sky canal"? : cptstern
    • Buckets. Watch the water tutorial that is linked in the new to minecraft reply to op. : conandan
    • hehe. It takes.... a while. You get to make your whole canel a chess board of holes pretty much, fill the... : historyinthemaking
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  the new angle render for MercFoxs server is pretty rad : Degenerate
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    The render is currently running, but a lot (maybe all) of the most zoomed in tiles have been updated with... : mroizo40
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      There's a funky thing going on around the center portion of the map. If you zoom in all the way on the C... : DHAvatar
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        I think that might be caused by my partially implemented caching code. It'll start to re-render the zoom ... : mroizo40
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          Actually it looks like it might've been a tile that was caught mid-render; it cleared itself up : mroizo40
          • Yep, looks good now. :) : DHAvatar
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      If you figure out furnace facing direction, tell me as I don't know how it works either. The wiki has al... : TroZ
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        as a workaround you can apply the rules that minecraft uses to determine the direction when you're placin... : electroly
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          Man his facing stuff really sucks. Ladders are 0-3, not in a clockwise or counter clockwise direction T... : mroizo40
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            notch is a hack. a great ideas man but his implementation is really naive or hackish in a lot of areas : electroly
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              In his defense, he's said that he's coding some things (like the save file structure) in an extremely sim... : Arctic Fox
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                huge mistake imo. i don't think he realizes how much he's going to have to change to support an adaptive... : electroly
                • I don't look forward to that rewrite (on my end) : mroizo40
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                  Hah I never said this was a good idea (I'd certainly never code like that), just explaining one reason wh... : Arctic Fox
                  • I imagine the whole "one guy doing it all" was part of the decision as well. The game works fine and it's... : Hemtroll
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                    Well a lot of cases seem strangely implemented - the facings thing is one, but another is how the texture... : mroizo40
                    • Yeah I agree that some things, like the facings, do seem rather daft. : Arctic Fox
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                Something like cardinal directions for facing is typically defined as an enum with values going clockwise... : mroizo40
                • yeah this is just plain stupidity, not "simple for now, optimize later" : electroly
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                  signs have 16 directions according to the wiki Torches 5 = on floor, 1-4 is walls yeah, but some are wa... : TroZ
                  • Yeah I forgot the signs have 16 since NOTHING ELSE IN THE GAME does that. Such a strange decision. : mroizo40
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              Must be nice to have people criticizing your skills when you're rolling in dough from a fun project like ... : Zakko
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                game design != programming skills : Arctic Fox
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                  I haven't looked into the way he's implemented anything. I honestly don't care. I'm just saying it must... : Zakko
                  • Really? You've never gotten frustrated with, say, the way your stairs will never line up the way you want... : Arctic Fox
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                i doubt notch is crying the blues. if he's smart, he won't even be the one who will be rewriting this st : electroly
                • ^^^ Yep, this is what I'm betting he'll do : Arctic Fox
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          I usually just place dirt blocks around all sides except one (the direction I want the furnace to face) t... : Gwyndion
          • yeah exactly, i do the same. i think most people do, so this technique would work well for determining t... : electroly
  • Definitely kicks ass. : hoov1185
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    is it possible for us to make markers on the map? : ass-street
    • I keep trying to drag the streetview guy to the map. It should set your location on the server to whereve... : Haxim
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    It draws slow on my machine :( : c0bra
    • It doesn't draw at all on my work laptop for some reason. Looks fine at home though (and it's awesome). ... : Gwyndion
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    It looks loads better with the new textures update, awesome stuff : Begawkiness
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      Actually I just downloaded the latest version you have up and while the glass and some other things look ... : Begawkiness
      • This is a render on my own server btw : Begawkiness
• foo-- Chunk Removal tool --- http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1012&t=55970 It will let you... : Shadowdane
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  Attn: devious trap making menz Controlling water and lava with redstone! http://www.youtube.com/watch?... : Arctic Fox
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    and the fun applications thereof: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4A-dz2KxCI : Arctic Fox
    • that's pretty awesome. : Finchypoo
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      That is really cool. Too bad it's essentially a one-shot deal. : basketofkittens
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        Plays nicely onto my idea for CTF in Minecraft though: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24233164 Al... : Arctic Fox
        • Hey dude, i'm gonna set some stuff up in my place this weekend. As soon as there's damage in smp you nee... : dnagenome
    • that would be a pain in the ass to set back up :( : GloriousCow
  • wow that is kinda cool : Shadowdane
  • I see potential in this for safe traps since it is one shot. Basically design it so if anyone gets to cl... : SolrFlare
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  Slave One on Merc's server looks amazing, who is the owner of that fine property? : Piett23
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    Goblin_au I believe, though I think someone else is responsible for the Millenium Falcon : Arctic Fox
    • My hat is off to them : Piett23
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    All posts describing structures as awesome/amazing/cool/incredible are now required to post screenshots i... : pancake humper
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      I second this. Or at least point out where they are on the render. : Finchypoo
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        Look for this http://www.shackpics.com/files/Slave1_8w57d56kau6xys3nh2hs.png due South of Penis Island : Arctic Fox
        • O_O : pancake humper
        • what the fuck is this? Where's slave Leia? : Hemtroll
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          Someone needs to make cloud city next.....but wait for notch to raise the roof a bit. : Finchypoo
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            Higher ceiling is in the pipeline? : vx2o
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              I think it's just people wishing. I don't think I've seen anything from Notch to say it's on his priority... : Arctic Fox
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                it should be :( my "sky" city is practically on the ground despite being right up against the skybox : electroly
                • I've got to think that if he is really going to ship a 'creative' mode in the final game there has to be ... : Arctic Fox
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          lol i'm guessing that's bedrock on the sides? : MurrayTheSkull
          • I'm guessing obsidian. Goblin wouldn't have access to bedrock unless someone spawned it in for him, and i... : Arctic Fox
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            the sides of Slave1? I think it's mossy cobble. : Finchypoo
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              yeah probably this. i forgot i have a different texture pack that makes my bedrock look like the top of ... : MurrayTheSkull
              • It's turtles all the way down. : Finchypoo
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  is the mercfox server down? : ass-street
  • nevrmind : ass-street
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  damn it, when is the next MC update? : m0rfus
  • halloween : Degenerate
  • Halloween : watcherxp
  • hAlloween : Hemtroll
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    is the update on HALLOWEEN?! : m0rfus
    • what gave you that impression? : Hemtroll
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    Wait, what? No secret Friday update again!? : Haxim
    • Shocked and appalled in three.. two.. one.. : Hemtroll
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      I mean, I see now why PayPal froze this guy's account. Biggest scam artist ever. : Haxim
      • you do know you can be banned for trolling right? : deathofrats
• I went further south to create my own town, Skulltula. It doesn't show up on the current render, but I b... : MurrayTheSkull
• i did a render while i was waiting - http://www.shackpics.com/files/terrain_ux56sro6d0zkowyz2p7x.jpg S : m0rfus
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  Dudes, take a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWPk5zlKAEM What mod is it that makes the ... : foo
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    Very old build. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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      Weak. i like that much better than the black outline we get now : foo
      • Some of the textuure packs mod this in too. I can't remember which one, but one of the many texture packs... : Arctic Fox
• I'm going to have to move my skyroad so i don't obstruct my structure - should be nice when its done: ... : re-verse
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  dreeves: http://smp.mcft.co/ + http://www.shackpics.com/files/terrain_uy1wh1r7tcqravl2iawy.png is what I ... : MamiyaOtaru
  • Thanks a bunch, gonna check it out in a bit. : Reeves
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    where do you put all these files? : m0rfus
    • NM - i got it. Open .JAR file with WinRAR and move files into .JAR, close WinRAR : m0rfus