Weekend Discussion

Halo: Reach. Civilization V. PlayStation Move. Tokyo Game Show 2010.

Could a gamer's life get busier? Oh, yes. We're not even into October. There are still a ton of titles hitting retail before 2010 rings its final bell. (And let's not even talk about how busy the first few months of 2011 will be.)

Let's enjoy it while we can and hope everything works out when we pull out our wallets.

  • Alice O'Connor: I imagine I'll continue to work my way through the Halo: Reach campaign, grumbling all the way. Monday Night Combat shall be my palate cleanser.
  • Brian Leahy: This weekend I'll be playing Halo: Reach--three achievements left!---and Civilization V! I'm still waiting for the first balance patch before I jump back into StarCraft 2, but I don't think it will be this weekend.
  • Garnett Lee: [Left the station to give the Covenant back their bomb.]
  • Jeff Mattas: [We'll wake him, when we need him.]
  • Xav de Matos: After focusing on the campaign for the first few weeks I had the game, I finally jumped into Halo: Reach multiplayer. Considering I haven't played Halo online in over a year, I think I did pretty well. When I'm not playing Reach, I'm sneaking in some time with Civilization V.

Xav de Matos was previously a games journalist creating content at Shacknews.

From The Chatty
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    September 18, 2010 8:36 AM

    Weekend Discussion Minecraft Thread!
    Saturday Update Edition!!!

    :D

    Multiplayer Servers!
    MercFox1 : shackeast.sytes.net:25566
    Haxim : 199.216.192.102
    zuff : 75.178.46.57
    AgentPothead : shackcraft.sytes.net

    Teamspeak : ts.shackbattles.com : 9987

    ಥ_ಥ

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      September 18, 2010 8:36 AM

      First Time Playing?

      - Shackwiki Minecraft page!
      http://shackwiki.com/wiki/Minecraft

      - (Video) (Series) X's Adventures in Minecraft! Linked by zuff
      http://tinyurl.com/2ah7sex
      Lots of useful info in here!

      - (Video) (Series) Minecraft Minecart Tutorials! Boosters! Track switches! Et cetera!
      http://tinyurl.com/2udl2lt

      - Beginner’s Guides to Minecraft, originally linked by at0micgarden!
      (Work in Progress) Guide to Alpha: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=17021
      How to Survive Your First Night: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=19065


      - Things I Wish I’d Known, a retrospective by Ebu!
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23608826#itemanchor_23608826

      - Linkmania! By zuff!
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23514788#itemanchor_23514788
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23533536#itemanchor_23533536


      - Ores, and How to Find Them, by Fooldozer and CodeRedBeard!
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23582115#itemanchor_23582115

      - And some generally useful keys to press!
      F11 - True full screen! No more hitting the maximise button for you!
      F6 (hold) - CPU/ memory usage bar! Spikes for CPU/ red box for memory, I think!
      F5 - third person mode! View wonky animations and gradually figure out that the block you’re really aiming at is directly to the left of the one of the crosshair is on!

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      September 18, 2010 8:39 AM

      Recent Render http://agentpothead.com/newest.png

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      September 18, 2010 8:42 AM

      want damage + working mobs on multiplayer servers!

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      September 18, 2010 8:48 AM

      Shadowdane's Snowy Server: shadowdane.shacknet.nu
      Cartographer: http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/Minecraft/shackdc-9182010-1147.png

      This isn't a permanent server right now... just messing around with the server software. But if there is interest, I might make it a permanent server.

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        September 18, 2010 8:51 AM

        Winter wonderland!

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          September 18, 2010 10:00 AM

          yup.. I'm gonna leave the server up all weekend probably into next week.

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        September 18, 2010 12:44 PM

        Oh yay, I love snow worlds! I'll definately check this out.

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      September 18, 2010 9:08 AM

      CURRENT OIZOMAPPER RENDER - Shacknews East:

      http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7834948/20100918_1030.png

      Rendered: 10:30 AM EST

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      September 18, 2010 9:10 AM

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      September 18, 2010 9:12 AM

      In case you missed it earlier, Castle Woodenstein is now Castle Firestein.

      http://www.shackpics.com/files/Screenshot20100918at92702PM_0e5gjj0vcaklat3ysjwx.png

      Mucking around with steel and flint caused the entire tree mansion to go up in smoke in a matter of seconds. In about 90 seconds, the entire thing had burnt down. I'm not sure if it was lag that caused my water to disappear or weather the fire evaporated it, it was ineffective anyway.

      I was so disappointed I basically rage quit. It took me a few hours before I could go back and look at the damage. When I had returned, the fire had been put out by others on the server, and any supplies had been left for me in crates at the front of what used to be my castle. Thanks for doing that! I was amazed and even somewhat uplifted. I also now have a life-time supply of bacon!

      I'm laughing about it now. The great thing with Minecraft is you can go back and build again. I'm still going to stick with wood as I liked the idea of living in the trees. But now that I know how a steel and flint works, here are some things I have learned:

      1. A lava fireplace does look nice, but it is not best placed in a library made out of wood.
      2. Steel and flint belongs no place near burnable material.
      3. Perhaps building a frame out of less flammable material is advisable.

      I also have 1 Steel & Flint up for donation.

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      September 18, 2010 9:15 AM

      Hi, I'd like to be THAT guy.

      I just purchased minecraft. What do I do?

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        September 18, 2010 9:16 AM

        Really, I have no idea - I only purchased it because there is a minecraft thread every chatty and I don't know what the hell it is, but the shackhype has been through the roof since it got released.

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        September 18, 2010 9:17 AM

        Check out the links in the First Time Playing section, and get back to me later! I'm trying to make it as useful as possible for new players, so any advice on how to improve it would be great to have.

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          September 18, 2010 9:22 AM

          wow, I completly missed your second post, thanks

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            September 18, 2010 9:32 AM

            Oh shit! Torches! Now I'm not confused under ground in the dark - This game is awesome.

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              September 18, 2010 10:48 AM

              Any ideas on restructuring the First Time Playing post? I've got some blind spots regarding the usefulness of information; it never occurred to me that a player couldn't know about torches, for example!

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                September 18, 2010 11:19 AM

                I played for the first hour punching stuff with my fists until they bled! Your first time player post really helped

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        September 18, 2010 9:18 AM

        Punch a tree.

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          September 18, 2010 9:35 AM

          This is legitimately and truly your first step toward absolute glory.

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        September 18, 2010 9:31 AM

        I found reading the Rock Paper Shotgun playthrough really gave me a good idea of how to start. http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/tag/mine-the-gap/

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      September 18, 2010 9:21 AM

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        September 18, 2010 9:39 AM

        I've been digging and trying to find a balrog. I've thus far been unsuccessful. I have a FUCKTON of cobblestone, though.

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        September 18, 2010 9:42 AM

        Sort of, It's more of a conduit for shuffling hordes of zombies into Duke City though.

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        September 18, 2010 10:11 AM

        Find the entrance to HELL in MercFox's server.
        It's north of spawn, NW of Duke, west of Foo's House

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          September 18, 2010 10:45 AM

          You really should visit the Lava Halls in HELL. It's an exquisite mix of lava and furnaces that is quite fascinating. :)

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        September 18, 2010 12:11 PM

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      September 18, 2010 9:31 AM

      Are stupid unicode sigs bannable yet?

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      September 18, 2010 9:57 AM

      Hey mercfox1, I was thinking of renting a server here in order to let you be able to play a game of L4D without a shitty ping. Would you be OK with moving the world to a rented server?

      Rock paper shotgun are using these guys for their server: http://main.jestservers.com/2010-05/minecraft-dedicated-servers/ And I was thinking of renting a server there for us.

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        September 18, 2010 10:07 AM

        Hold up, bro. I've already gotten offers for high-level hosting for free, I'll have more info on Monday.

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          September 18, 2010 10:08 AM

          However, I appreciate it very much and I'm going to be very excited to get my ping back down in the 30s-60s.

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      September 18, 2010 10:01 AM

      Anyone else having trouble logging into Merc's server?

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        September 18, 2010 10:10 AM

        yes this has been covered his server is getting hammered and his internet connection can hardly take it.

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        September 18, 2010 11:24 AM

        I got dumped, and couldn't reconnect. Now minecraft can't update...

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          September 18, 2010 11:31 AM

          Is Merc's server up still?

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            September 18, 2010 11:45 AM

            must be... sad is me.

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              September 18, 2010 11:54 AM

              Shit's crazy today. Minecraft.net is down so clients and people not already in a server can't connect.

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                September 18, 2010 11:56 AM

                would I be able to connect to your server in offline mode?

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                  September 18, 2010 11:56 AM

                  lol oxymoron

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                    September 18, 2010 12:37 PM

                    I agree with this, yet if I'm in offline mode, the Multiplayer button should be grayed out then?

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                  September 18, 2010 11:57 AM

                  Negative. I can't even connect to the server. :(((

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                    September 18, 2010 12:02 PM

                    Someone mentioned that there was a setting for the server to allow 'offline' clients to connect to it. Not sure if that actually exists or not though.

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                      September 18, 2010 12:41 PM

                      You actually can connect to a server in offline mode, but all players login as Player so nick collusions occur if more than 1 person tries to logon so it's pretty much useless.

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      September 18, 2010 10:12 AM

      To the crew that flattened the epic hill to the southwest of Orthanc last night: thanks! Also, you're all crazy.

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      September 18, 2010 10:38 AM

      Not has renamed the Crouching feature to Sneaking.

      From his twitter:
      The hitbox is the same size when sneaking. You walk slower, make no noise, can't fall of ledges, and won't trample crops. Camera is lower.

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      September 18, 2010 10:45 AM

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        September 18, 2010 10:52 AM

        and his update server just died it looks like... lol

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        September 18, 2010 10:52 AM

        What are "biomes"?

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        September 18, 2010 10:52 AM

        and fishing poles http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/1504/px6ql8.png

        did anyone grab the updated server jar before minecraft.net went boom?

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          September 18, 2010 10:54 AM

          OhmygodOhmygodOhmygodOhmygodOhmygodOhmygodOhmygod

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            September 18, 2010 3:26 PM

            What a fucking tease. Adds poles but nothing to do with them. So mad right now.

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              September 19, 2010 11:47 AM

              well if you think of it as an alpha it makes sense.

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          September 18, 2010 11:03 AM

          OhshitOhshitOhshitOhshitOhshitOhshitOhshit

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          September 18, 2010 11:07 AM

          Wait, does this mean there are fish to catch now? :O

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            September 18, 2010 11:11 AM

            no, you can craft money, and use the fishing pole and money to lure creepers into a trap. or homeless people.

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              September 18, 2010 11:12 AM

              Drakoniac, that sounds awesome. I'm going to build my next sky tower out of homeless people corpses. :D

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        September 18, 2010 10:58 AM

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          September 18, 2010 11:03 AM

          If he can fix the minecarts, I would be so happy.

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        September 18, 2010 11:00 AM

        damn can't get on any servers cause minecraft.net died

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          September 18, 2010 11:04 AM

          Are the updates available as standalone EXEs, or is it all handled by minecraft.exe ?

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            September 18, 2010 11:07 AM

            Currently every update gets downloaded by the Minecraft.exe client, off the single update server that also houses minecraft.net and the online client.

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            September 18, 2010 11:08 AM

            minecraft.exe is just a launcher, it just downloads updates and launches the actual client which is a .jar file.

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          September 18, 2010 11:09 AM

          It's as if millions of voices cried out and were suddenly silenced...

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        September 18, 2010 11:12 AM

        The hell biome will be used for an alternate fast travel dimension. Have you read Wheel of Time? That.

        wow.

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          September 18, 2010 11:15 AM

          Does he mean instant travel like a portal? I hope not... : \

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            September 18, 2010 11:17 AM

            i have not read wheel of time so i don't get the specific reference

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          September 18, 2010 11:18 AM

          What does that mean, though? I'm entirely unfamiliar with the Wheel of Time series, so all I can picture is a massive hellscape with magic doors everywhere that link to overworld locations. Is that close?

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            September 18, 2010 11:25 AM

            I've never read wheel of time either but I played the game, and the game features something similar to that which I've been told was in the book as well. So, yes, I'm guessing.

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            September 18, 2010 11:28 AM

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            September 18, 2010 4:24 PM

            All I can think of when he describes this is warrens in Steven Erikson's "Malazan" series.

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            September 18, 2010 10:04 PM

            In the Wheel of Time world, there are waygates that lead to an alternate dimension that allows you to travel quickly because the distances are shorter than the in the "real" world. However, in the time of the main events of the series, it is old and decaying in... interesting ways.

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          September 18, 2010 11:35 AM

          That's fuckin pro

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            September 18, 2010 11:45 AM

            Hey MercFox1, do you remember that time when you said Minecraft wouldn't even be the same game after 1 more year of development? It's just a hunch, but I think you may have been right.

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        September 18, 2010 11:31 AM

        Minecraft.net is getting owned

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      September 18, 2010 11:20 AM

      So is there a limit to how far away from spawn that animals will spawn?

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        September 18, 2010 11:20 AM

        Shit ton of grass, no animals, just no on my island, on ANY land around including isle of Clay.

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        September 18, 2010 11:43 AM

        bump, just curious

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        September 18, 2010 11:46 AM

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          September 18, 2010 11:49 AM

          I bet the server has a hard limit on how far from spawn the monsters will spawn. I am not sure why, since they will only spawn if you are in and area anyway.

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            September 18, 2010 11:49 AM

            I said monsters but I meant animals, but it might apply to monsters as well

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              September 18, 2010 11:53 AM

              Monster spawning is currently set to off because they can't be killed. Although monster spawners from dungeons still work.

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            September 18, 2010 11:52 AM

            Are you just standing around waiting for them to spawn or have you left the area and come back?

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              September 18, 2010 11:54 AM

              I have not left that new castle area I just built in a while.


              At this point since we dont have the cool animals, its not really that big of deal I guess.

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                September 18, 2010 12:01 PM

                I don't think they'll spawn if there are people in the area. Spawning probably gets triggered when areas are loaded from the server. That being said, don't worry about it because they'll despawn if there isn't anyone to watch them.

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        September 18, 2010 12:04 PM

        The game does not load into memory anything, including ground, 300 units from you.

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      September 18, 2010 12:03 PM

      OH SHIT I GOT IT

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        September 18, 2010 12:04 PM

        QUICK EVERYBODY UPDATE NOW SO THE SERVER CRASHES AGAIN

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        September 18, 2010 12:04 PM

        BLOCKS YEAH

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        September 18, 2010 12:07 PM

        Everyone disconnect from Shacknews East so I can apply the update, if youre not off by the next save cycle, I'm forcefully disconnecting you.

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          September 18, 2010 12:11 PM

          FORCED DISCONNECTION

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        September 18, 2010 12:08 PM

        Its coming down at Mercfox speed!!!

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        September 18, 2010 12:18 PM

        78% mother fuckers

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        September 18, 2010 12:22 PM

        mine is fucked up it just goes to a grey screen any idea what that means?

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        September 18, 2010 12:26 PM

        Dude needs to change his updater to Bittorrent, this is just silly

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          September 18, 2010 12:31 PM

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            September 18, 2010 12:33 PM

            According to his Twitter he passed 7000 sales in 24 hours (breakdown: 5% of all visitors at the moment are direct referrals from PA. YouTube is 3%, Google is 46%, direct is 27%)

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              September 18, 2010 1:06 PM

              yeah that's pretty amazing, but it is PA... they've Wanged Minecraft now!

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                September 18, 2010 1:07 PM

                I still can't believe you guys leveled that mountain last night. You're insane.

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                  September 18, 2010 1:09 PM

                  All I really did was the pathway and a few blocks above it, and maybe 6 blocks wide east of the NE path. We had another dude with us (he came after the others left at maybe 6am or so) whose name I forgot to post in the last post and has now escaped my memory who was still working when I got off and must have kept going if it's all level now. I really want to see it, but yeah the update means I'll probably be waiting until I get back home later tonight.

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                    September 18, 2010 1:10 PM

                    hscharlie? He was working on it when I logged in to check out the work

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                      September 18, 2010 1:14 PM

                      yeah there you go, thank that guy, he worked his ass off! I'd say he probably leveled more than myself, chandler55 and MurraytheSkull combined if he got it flat.

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                        September 18, 2010 1:32 PM

                        Yeah he did some good work, thanks if you're reading this :D

                        Since we can't play it, let's talk about it. What do you think of me making the current level of Orthanc double-high, and installing an indoor oasis there?

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                          September 18, 2010 1:34 PM

                          hm could be kind of cool, but I really like the symmetry we've got so far... although, I think this is nearly the halfway point, just the middle being taller would probably look fine.

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                            September 18, 2010 1:37 PM

                            Well I'm thinking about doing the reallllly tall windows you can see about halfway up this pic http://www.shackpics.com/files/LOTRenviroisengardlrg_cvy2wqfh8gsfn9e2en7q.jpg

                            Could look badass.

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                              September 18, 2010 1:39 PM

                              Kinda like the windows on my towers, just taller.

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                                September 18, 2010 1:41 PM

                                Right, which is kind of why I'm thinking a double level would work with them. Plus indoor trees, waterfalls, etc, it'd be sweet.

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                              September 18, 2010 1:47 PM

                              Well that looks like 2/3 of the way up to me. Also I hadn't looked at an actual Orthanc picture in awhile, I'm noticing our diagonals are larger and they get wider each level too which kind of baffles me.

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                                September 18, 2010 2:01 PM

                                Yeah I'd noticed that too, it's gradually becoming a diamond, lol. I may forcibly fix this on the 4th level.

                                Re: the proportions etc, I think some creative license will have to be applied due to the low skybox. I'm thinking of doing those arch windows you see near the base (also seen here http://www.shackpics.com/files/Orthanclee_fdjsqc29z60oqc1tuzo9.jpg ) on the second level... maybe 5th + 6th for the oasis level then?

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                                  September 18, 2010 2:02 PM

                                  Yeah I like both of those ideas... I guess the only way to keep it from becoming a diamond is having a bit of a balcony on the corners?

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                                    September 18, 2010 2:09 PM

                                    The good news is that doing the oasis level will make the tiling easier for 2 reasons: I'd probably put a layer of smooth stone down for the 5th floor (with a layer of dirt on top), and also we don't need to tile the 6th level :D

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                                      September 18, 2010 2:14 PM

                                      so, what do you think about maybe knocking down the corners of the previous levels and bring the existing walls back so the corner is just 2-3 wide?

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                                        September 18, 2010 2:17 PM

                                        Yeah I've got to think about that when I can actually see it :)

                                        The good news is, redoing walls is easy. It's tiling the floor that is the terribad part.

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                                          September 18, 2010 2:20 PM

                                          Yeah that's true... get on man it seems to be working again!

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                                            September 18, 2010 2:26 PM

                                            If only I could update. I keep getting fatal errors.

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                                              September 18, 2010 2:31 PM

                                              Sorry dude, I'm fixing one corner now to see how it looks. Just keep on trying!

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          September 18, 2010 1:20 PM

          He needs to hire a business manager or something, its painfully obvious he doesn't know what to do with his success.

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            September 18, 2010 1:20 PM

            pretty sure he just did that

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        September 18, 2010 12:36 PM

        aaaaaandddddd Minecraft.net has been DDOS'd again

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        September 18, 2010 12:43 PM

        I have to download new stuff?

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        September 18, 2010 12:48 PM

        Oh shit guys. We have to get it as fast as humanly possible!

        EVERYONE START DOWNLOADING THIS. NOW!

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        September 18, 2010 1:10 PM

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          September 18, 2010 1:15 PM

          I don't know. I've played so much Minecraft that everywhere I go I see Creepers. Everyone around me looks like they're about to explode. You can not trust anyone. Do that, and they'll blow up right in your face with a smirk on their face.

          What's real life anyways?

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      September 18, 2010 1:01 PM

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        September 18, 2010 1:07 PM

        lol it's funny because the posts above remind me of pre-load / decrypting threads where nothing is going right for anyone. So yeah, I'm not sure that would fix all the problems.

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      September 18, 2010 1:20 PM

      At least Notch doesn't run the shack.

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      September 18, 2010 1:31 PM

      Work on House Vile's Ancestral Delving must be halted?!?!?

      UNPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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        September 18, 2010 1:33 PM

        I'm trying out some ideas for Orthanc in my SP game :P

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      September 18, 2010 1:40 PM

      I'm getting a weird error trying to log into Mercs server. FoundException: http:// www minecraft.net/game/joinserver.jsp?user=foobar................

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        September 18, 2010 1:41 PM

        Minecraft.net is down for me.

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      September 18, 2010 1:43 PM

      Get this from www.minecraft.net

      Minecraft Offline. Hold.
      Setting up a cloud solution. Free Minecraft weekend until the problems are solved?

      / Notch

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        September 18, 2010 1:45 PM

        nooooooo the real word is scary and non-polygonal

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      September 18, 2010 1:43 PM

      Yay! I got the update!

      FUUUUUUUUUUUUU GREY SCREEN OF DEATH!

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      September 18, 2010 1:46 PM

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      September 18, 2010 1:50 PM

      WORKING!! Go to www.minecraft.net and download exe or jar. I'm on mercs server now but i'm named foobar!

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        September 18, 2010 1:51 PM

        i just get the Grey Screen :(

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          September 18, 2010 1:52 PM

          I'm running the jar in linux so maybe that might be why mins working. No one else is logged on it seems

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            September 18, 2010 1:57 PM

            yah seems almost everyone is getting this Grey Screen of Death and the game won't run. :(

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        September 18, 2010 1:52 PM

        Can't create an account yet though :(

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        September 18, 2010 1:52 PM

        Just get a greyscreen.

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          September 18, 2010 1:54 PM

          is your server running? I will try and log on to it.

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            September 18, 2010 1:54 PM

            It should be yes. I updated it and restarted.

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            September 18, 2010 2:17 PM

            Yo I rolled back, could you get /warp and /give to work when you logged on the last time?

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              September 18, 2010 2:22 PM

              Seems to be golden. I'ma go test out this new patch.

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        September 18, 2010 1:54 PM

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        September 18, 2010 1:57 PM

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        September 18, 2010 1:58 PM

        Has to be linux. I can log on to AgentPotheads too

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        September 18, 2010 2:02 PM

        Working - merc's server kicks me off with a "connected from another location" error

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        September 18, 2010 2:03 PM

        I think everyone connects as "foobar" and boots each other!

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          September 18, 2010 2:04 PM

          oh the huge manatee

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          September 18, 2010 2:05 PM

          haha yup... Notch fucked up something good. lol

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          September 18, 2010 2:09 PM

          It's pretty funny seeing everyone join as "foobar" and booting each other.

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            September 18, 2010 2:11 PM

            I managed to type "HELLO MY NAME IS FOOBAR" right before getting booted once

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      September 18, 2010 1:53 PM

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      September 18, 2010 1:59 PM

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        September 18, 2010 2:01 PM

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          September 18, 2010 2:01 PM

          Yup I had the same thing, logout and get yet another patch

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            September 18, 2010 2:03 PM

            bet the server hasn't got the update yet

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              September 18, 2010 2:05 PM

              I can connect after patching again, still getting the foobar thing. This is lols!

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      September 18, 2010 2:00 PM

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      September 18, 2010 2:04 PM

      wtf it thinks my name is now foobar and all my stuff is gone! Anyone else seeing this problem?

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      September 18, 2010 2:05 PM

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        September 18, 2010 2:06 PM

        Oh hey, I think the free to play and not getting minecraft.net is connected to multiplayer foobar names. So, basically, only one person can play on a multiplayer server at a time right now. Yay? =/

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          September 18, 2010 2:07 PM

          very unique MP mode introduced in this latest patch

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          September 18, 2010 2:09 PM

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            September 18, 2010 2:12 PM

            no, read my post below, he disabled multiplayer verification

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              September 18, 2010 2:15 PM

              ahh so basically we can't play MP really :(

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                September 18, 2010 2:16 PM

                well, one person can play MP until the next person boots them

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        September 18, 2010 2:07 PM

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          September 18, 2010 4:56 PM

          INF nothing, this should be on the front page.

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        September 18, 2010 2:10 PM

        so it's free but we cant play on the shack server?

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          September 18, 2010 2:12 PM

          SIngle player is fun as hell too. Better. It's more of a complete game. It's just the multi that's really alpha

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            September 18, 2010 2:13 PM

            Yeah once multi has all the SP features it's gonna be awesssommmmme

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            September 18, 2010 2:15 PM

            meh, i played it awhile ago before you had to buy anything. before crafting was in. playing single player doesn't really appeal to me for this type of game. the most fun thing seems to be gettin' a bunch of dudes in a server and just makin' cock pictures all over. and maybe a slum town or something.

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      September 18, 2010 2:09 PM

      Foobar explained on http://www.minecraft.net/ --

      Minecraft got way too popular for this humble server. I've had to disable everything fancy to even get it to run.

      The following things do not work at the moment:

      Registering an account
      Purchasing the game
      User verification for online servers

      The following does work:

      Actually playing the game
      Player skins

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      September 18, 2010 2:09 PM

      Stopped working now. It's stuck on downloading packages.

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      September 18, 2010 2:12 PM

      I bought this last night and then went to MercFox's server where it took me 20 minutes to swim out of some lava.

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      September 18, 2010 2:13 PM

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      September 18, 2010 2:15 PM

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      September 18, 2010 2:18 PM

      Foobar fixed, apparently... I just logged in as me!

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      September 18, 2010 2:19 PM

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      September 18, 2010 2:21 PM

      Working now GOGOGOGOGO

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      September 18, 2010 2:21 PM

      UPDATES

      I won't be able to get minecraft.net up to speed this weekend, so it'll be free to play until I can fix it.

      ...

      I've ordered a (much) better server, and will be speaking to people about a backend redesign. I've also got amazon cloud now.

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      September 18, 2010 2:29 PM

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        September 18, 2010 2:30 PM

        Same problem. This blows.

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        September 18, 2010 2:31 PM

        el ditto

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        September 18, 2010 2:33 PM

        wait for it to timeoutfully or disconnect your internet connection right before it tries (and then reconnect) and jsut play in single/etc.

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        September 18, 2010 2:36 PM

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      September 18, 2010 2:30 PM

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        September 18, 2010 2:30 PM

        You're not missing much

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        September 18, 2010 2:32 PM

        You aren't missing out on much, the servers got raped by the huge amount of people trying to download the new version. They're still shitting bricks, so no minecrafting for a while.

        Also the unofficial 'free weekend' will bring lots of assholes that will ruin people's shit.

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      September 18, 2010 2:30 PM

      Of course I start playing this as soon as it breaks. Arctic Fox.... YOU DID THIS TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      September 18, 2010 2:37 PM

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      September 18, 2010 2:44 PM

      No Sound?? Anyone else getting no sound after this last update? I can hear stuff in Windows fine, but the game produces no audio at all.

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      September 18, 2010 2:54 PM

      damn it tried to download another update and again its not working... just gives a fatal error when it tries to extract some files.

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        September 18, 2010 3:00 PM

        fixed it.. deleted \.minecraft\bin
        and also re-downloaded the minecraft.exe launcher and it updated properly this time.

        Still no sound though. :(

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      September 18, 2010 3:01 PM

      i'm hooped until /home works again. I logged in and the world didn't fully load for me and I fell through the ground. Now every time I log in I'm back to falling again.... :(

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      September 18, 2010 4:17 PM

      Merc's server is doooown.

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      September 18, 2010 4:18 PM

      i just got another update...

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      September 18, 2010 4:24 PM

      Crouching/ sneaking bug! Sneaking around while crouched doesn't stop the normal walking sounds from playing, it just delays them, saving them up! When you uncrouch, they all try to play at once!

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        September 18, 2010 4:27 PM

        Excellent bug for scaring people then. :D

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          September 18, 2010 4:50 PM

          walking noises isn't multiplayer though is it? I can't hear other people walking

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      September 18, 2010 4:28 PM

      Just tried to update, got an error -- AITOO?

      http://www.shackpics.com/files/Clipboard01_ks5vzvnyorpe5po5ctwj.jpg

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      September 18, 2010 4:37 PM

      Is there a way I can buy this game without using Paypal?

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        September 18, 2010 4:39 PM

        well its free for the weekend, but currently no i think all transactions go through paypal.

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        September 18, 2010 4:40 PM

        You don't need a Paypal account to purchase, but you do have to buy through Paypal.

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        September 18, 2010 5:01 PM

        What payment alternatives would you like to see, instead of Paypal?

        This is a serious question since I'm going to apply for the job of web developer over there. :) I'm guessing Google Checkout? Direct Credit Card payment? Envelope full of pennies?

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          September 18, 2010 5:09 PM

          I was wondering if you were going to go for that! You can use the Shack as a resume booster; a huge community (that includes actual game developers as part of its user base) enthusiastically playing Minecraft, who would dutifully give actual bug reports instead of yelling about FURNACE FIX HWOOOORG.

          I am going to say that about the Shack and I am going to be wrong.

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            September 18, 2010 5:13 PM

            I brought up my Shack membership on my interview for my current job. And my boss-to-be knew what it was and even has an account here. >_>

            But I'm hoping 3½ years as a web developer in the games industry is enough resume booster actually. ;)

            I just hate writing job applications, it's so much more fun to just spend the day playing Minecraft instead. :P

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          September 18, 2010 5:31 PM

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          September 18, 2010 5:40 PM

          Yeah, Direct Credit Card/Debit payment. Or a place to mail a check, but the check might get lost in the mail. hm.

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            September 18, 2010 5:43 PM

            Direct card payment shouldn't really be an issue, but it is some work involved to get that going.

            I think Paypal already has some service that lets you send in a check that they cash and then transfer the money, I really doubt notch wants to trod to the bank and cash them in manually. :) But there's bound to be other services handling that shit for you I guess.

            Any particular reason paying through Paypal (without registering an account) with your CC is disliked? I know some people stay away because they do that freezing of accounts (which happened to notch more then once) and such, but other then that?

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              September 18, 2010 6:27 PM

              I'm just not too crazy about having anything to do with Paypal. They have a history of shitting on both consumers and merchants for no reason at all.

              A good example is Notch accumulating a large amount of money and Paypal just not releasing it to him. Not sure about the whole story behind it, but I'm not surprised at Paypal's handling of this.

              I really, really just don't care to have anything to do with Paypal.

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                September 18, 2010 6:30 PM

                Although I might be willing to give Google checkout a try. Anything is better than Paypal at this point.

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      September 18, 2010 5:07 PM

      Can't play multiplayer and don't want to play your boring SP level? Play a Dwarf Fortress map!

      My last big post about DF2MC with download and example maps already converted:
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23968476
      One of the most elaborate DF levels converted with Minecraft map images:
      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23998525

      I'm still working on the next version which will have better doors (fit to walls better) and have chairs face tables and a few other 'orientation' improvements to certain items.

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      September 18, 2010 5:38 PM

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      September 18, 2010 5:40 PM

      Shacknews DC New Cartographer Map: http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/Minecraft/shackdc-9182010_2015.png
      Server Address: shadowdane.shacknet.nu

      Figured I might as well upload a new map of the server now that a few people have been on wandering about...

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      September 18, 2010 6:23 PM

      omg must update

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      September 18, 2010 7:59 PM

      UPDATED OIZOMAPPER RENDER - Shacknews East:

      http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7834948/20100918_2213.png

      Rendered: 10:13 PM EST

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        September 18, 2010 8:10 PM

        Also, is someone doing the map annotations?

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        September 18, 2010 8:19 PM

        woot my new paths look sweet

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        September 18, 2010 8:20 PM

        I miss the days when I could actually log in and play whenever I wanted :(

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          September 18, 2010 8:32 PM

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            September 18, 2010 8:33 PM

            Was it just yesterday? :) Seems like a year...

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            September 18, 2010 8:34 PM

            i can login usually but its just unplayable with 15-20 players on Merc's server... can't wait till get the hosting thing sorted out.

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              September 18, 2010 8:53 PM

              Not to marginalize you, Shadow, but can you describe what's going on that makes it unplayable? Is it block delay? I'm trying to figure out if it's the server or the code or some tertiary thing, because every now and then it'll get pretty bad for all players, but normal operation for that is to shutdown and restart; usually after long periods of uptime leaves the server sluggish. I did that earlier today and several people said performance was improved afterwards, but if you're experiencing something particular, I'm trying to make certain that it'll be fixed come whenever we get the server moved over.

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                September 18, 2010 9:15 PM

                mostly just extreme lag block delay up to 8-10 seconds and/or problems with the level actual loading. I haven't tried since this afternoon, so maybe its better this evening?

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                  September 18, 2010 9:26 PM

                  Was it before or after the new client. Everyone has been reporting huge issues with the maps not loading right, legsbrogan was actually falling through the map because it had failed to load.

                  This new update fixed some stuff, but it broke some stuff, too.

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                    September 18, 2010 9:40 PM

                    i was seeing this before the update, only really have problems when you get more than about 14-16 players on your server.

                    I think its mostly just your internet connection that is causing the lag and world loading problems. Hopefully you'll get that all sorted out soon.

                    I really wanted to work on the canal today, but with the update causing havoc and your server having the lag problems. It wasn't worth trying to do it today.

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                  September 18, 2010 9:36 PM

                  Here is what I'm currently seeing: http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/Minecraft/minecraft_lag.mp4

                  Didn't try breaking any blocks or placing anything, i had already been in the server for about 5 mins and there wasn't really any improvement as far as how fast the world was loading.

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                    September 18, 2010 9:45 PM

                    Interesting. Ok well I've had a similar issue, but its more along the lines of being able to see through the floor into the underground caves, which is interesting because my latency to the server is <1 ms. If we get this thing moved over sometime next week, and it's still giving you issues, I'd tweet it to Notch.

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                      September 18, 2010 9:47 PM

                      yah I've had the see through the floor and see caves, this is flat out not downloading the chunks. If I continue walking I just fall. lol

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                        September 18, 2010 9:52 PM

                        That's really weird because there's some chunk data there in your MP4. There are a couple of torches, and when you look around you can see outlines of blocks, with no blocks rendered, so there has to be some data there.

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                    September 18, 2010 10:32 PM

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        September 18, 2010 8:33 PM

        Hmmm, I just get a black screen when I try to log into this server... the others are working for me though. Now it says full but before it appeared to connect then I just got blackness. Oh well, I should sleep anyways.

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      September 18, 2010 8:09 PM

      server explodez!

      btw im curious, where are my "save files"

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        September 18, 2010 9:33 PM

        users/<username>/appdata/.minecraft/saves

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        September 18, 2010 9:36 PM

        C:\Documents and Settings\USER NAME\Application Data\.minecraft\saves

        note that it's .minecraft with a dot in front, should be at the very top of directory lists.

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        September 18, 2010 9:40 PM

        If you want something to back them up/keep them sycned with dropbox or something, check out http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=20119

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      September 18, 2010 8:53 PM

      So I was playing the single-player version, found a blue tile deep in the earth, jumped down to it ... and fell through infinity to my death. This is a bug, right?

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        September 18, 2010 8:54 PM

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        September 18, 2010 8:55 PM

        I think it's intended.

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        September 18, 2010 10:41 PM

        That's what happened to me and I fell through the world. It sometimes happened pre update but it was only the textures that were slow to load. I could just keep walking while it loaded. Today, post update, it was happening more frequently unfortunately it was not just the textures that did not load.

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        September 18, 2010 11:48 PM

        The bedrock at the bottom is not even, so sometimes digging through it you'll find a gap like that into the void. Solution -- don't dig around bedrock, there's nothing that far down anyway.

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      September 18, 2010 9:48 PM

      Port Thong expanded!

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      September 18, 2010 9:49 PM

      So I can't update... it just fails for me. I get a fatal error (null) while unpacking the lgza(i think it was lgza. Some zip format).

      =( I guess it just isn't downloading? Is there some way to manually update the files needed?

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      September 18, 2010 9:51 PM

      Updated Cartographer Render of Shacknews WashDC -- http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/Minecraft/shackdc-9192010-0041.png

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      September 18, 2010 10:52 PM

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        September 18, 2010 10:57 PM

        lol, I wished goblin recorded his house burning.

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        September 18, 2010 11:28 PM

        im crying right now this is too funny

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        September 18, 2010 11:42 PM

        lmao, the part where he goes "oh oh" he knows he's in big trouble

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        September 18, 2010 11:44 PM

        hahahaha

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        September 18, 2010 11:46 PM

        haha, excellent video.

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        September 18, 2010 11:47 PM

        that is just awful... he had the right idea with the two half-stone steps, but only one away from the wall was a terrible idea. Fire jumps and spreads, that's just how it works.

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        September 18, 2010 11:49 PM

        That is fucking incredibly funny and I only started playing today !

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          September 19, 2010 3:58 AM

          I've never played and it's still funny. The sheer futility of his actions are what make it hilarious I think.

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        September 18, 2010 11:54 PM

        watch this!

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        September 18, 2010 11:56 PM

        HAHAHAHA LOL

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        September 19, 2010 12:01 AM

        Sadly this video is a day late for goblin_au =/

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        September 19, 2010 12:14 AM

        That is so great.

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        September 19, 2010 11:37 AM

        LOL fire worked!

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      September 18, 2010 11:38 PM

      Crap cant login to MercFox's server

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        September 18, 2010 11:38 PM

        Yeah it just crashed

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          September 18, 2010 11:40 PM

          oh no.I just made 4 fishing rods.I hope it wasnt my fault.

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        September 18, 2010 11:39 PM

        MercFox the server isn't working. What happened to the server, MercFox?

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          September 18, 2010 11:40 PM

          Apparently, because I'm an admin, when I went to take a shit, the server went and took a shit too. :(

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            September 18, 2010 11:43 PM

            I was building a lake. I need to finish my lake. What do we do now?

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            September 18, 2010 11:46 PM

            This is what happens when you taunt the server! You were talking all kinds of shit with the admin voice right before it went own =/

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              September 18, 2010 11:47 PM

              lol, I know. I then I went afk to go to the bathroom and came back to a time out screen :(

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                September 18, 2010 11:49 PM

                You need to gently caress it and tell it how good it looks next time. Bitch just showed you who was boss.

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                  September 18, 2010 11:50 PM

                  lol, I know right. Now what am I going to do? Clean the house? Sleep? Fucking addictioncraft :(

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                    September 18, 2010 11:52 PM

                    Yesterday my internet was down. Earlier today the update stopped me from playing. Now, the server is done. I just want to build Agrestic.

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          September 19, 2010 3:06 AM

          still down? :/

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      September 18, 2010 11:52 PM

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      September 18, 2010 11:54 PM

      Any way to bind hard coded mouse commands to keyboard keys?

      • ArB legacy 10 years legacy 20 years
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        September 19, 2010 2:21 AM

        Related: Is there any way to reverse the mousewheel scrolling? Notch got it backwards!

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          September 19, 2010 3:55 AM

          I had to use autohotkey app for my problem. Here's how I got it to work though I don't think mouse wheel suport is in for mapping :(

          #IFWinActive, ahk_class SunAwtFrame
          *Space::LButton
          *LShift::RButton
          *LButton::Up
          *RButton::Down

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      September 19, 2010 12:13 AM

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      September 19, 2010 12:14 AM

      Just tried the game for free, crashes about 10 minutes into, plus I have no idea what to do. I killed a pig with a tree branch. :(

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      September 19, 2010 3:15 AM

      Is Merc's server down again? I get an eternal "Logging in..." screen

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        September 19, 2010 3:25 AM

        Yeah, I'm getting the same.

        GOD DANGIT.

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        September 19, 2010 6:03 AM

        yah appears it is down - Shacknews WashDC is up though --- shadowdane.shacknet.nu

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      September 19, 2010 6:13 AM

      SERVER'S UP!

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      September 19, 2010 6:16 AM

      I killed a creeper a while ago and it dropped what looked like saddle. Anyone seen this before?

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      September 19, 2010 6:22 AM

      Why do I randomly lockup, typically within five minutes of starting the game? This started happening two patches ago.

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        September 19, 2010 6:24 AM

        Do you have a SSD?

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          September 19, 2010 6:27 AM

          Nope.

          Also, probably unrelated, but I've started to hear an extremely high pitched whine when the Minecraft "connect to" window is open. If I maximize something else, it immediately goes away, and returns as soon as the Minecraft window has focus again. What IS that?

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            September 19, 2010 7:09 AM

            I have the same issue. It's specific to Minecraft.

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        September 19, 2010 6:26 AM

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      September 19, 2010 8:14 AM

      Isengard/Orthanc weekend update

      We're really hitting our stride now. After a team of crazy people decided to come and level not one, not two, but THREE mountains inside the walls of the castle (in a space of two days, no less) the lands of Isengard are flat. It's glorious. http://www.shackpics.com/files/Orthanc6_rsilgjsqr659kbujp5u2.jpg (Compare, if you will, to this picture posted Friday morning: http://www.shackpics.com/files/Isengard_f82mtotigmkfevrvp9g2.jpg )

      Thanks to Xevo, MurraytheSkull, hscharlie (who might as well be a piece of earthmoving equipment, he dug for about 5 hours overnight on Friday), dnagenome, EricZBA, and Crabs Jarrard for all the volunteer efforts terraforming. I honestly expected that bit to take weeks.

      We've been focusing our attention on the grounds mostly for the last week, and now they're starting to look pretty close to done. I finished all the paths last night, and we've planted trees in the east quadrant. Eventually, Isengard from ground level will all look something like this: http://www.shackpics.com/files/IsenPaths_wocccv6zf6iuv0g76f9q.png (We use a couple of hundred saplings per quadrant!).

      Now that the grounds are looking close to done, I need somewhere high to yell GET OFF MY LAWN from, so work has resumed on Orthanc, with gusto. Xevo has been a mad building machine: http://www.shackpics.com/files/Orthanc5_cyzbnx3rrh45nm7gg0o3.png

      And I've finally been able to start adding a little character to the outside walls, much more of this to come: http://www.shackpics.com/files/OrthancTrim_whszovkkk9uxaqow194u.png

      Finally, outside the walls of Isengard, something wicked this way comes (thanks DHAvatar!): http://www.shackpics.com/files/Ents1_lg1j5raz6s6wf12hl267.png
      http://www.shackpics.com/files/Ents2_b59kggyo26f4cmtzwh3o.jpg

      Thanks to all who have volunteered on the project so far! If I've missed anyone's name, let me know -- I didn't expect such a large swell of support here.

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        September 19, 2010 9:00 AM

        Nice pics, it's looking sweet!

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          September 19, 2010 9:05 AM

          Yeah :D :D :D :D

          Just SMd you, I think we'll need to reconsider going straight up at the 5th floor.

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        September 19, 2010 9:05 AM

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        September 19, 2010 10:04 AM

        Those Ents look so cool, I'm jealous haha.

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          September 19, 2010 10:16 AM

          I can't tell you how tickled I am that my creation has inspired someone to make something so cool :D

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      September 19, 2010 8:21 AM

      UPDATED OIZOMAPPER RENDER - Shacknews East:

      http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7834948/20100919_1027.png

      Rendered: 10:27 AM EST, Sept. 19th

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        September 19, 2010 8:25 AM

        unf, my new paths look hot

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        September 19, 2010 8:26 AM

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        September 19, 2010 8:38 AM

        Thanks Merc

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        September 19, 2010 10:49 AM

        Poopdick actually looks decent now all that stone is covered with grass :D

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        September 19, 2010 11:32 AM

        When you post these would it be too much to ask for a cropped version as well? I can't view these on my iPhone/iPad because apparently iOS sucks and can't handle large images.

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      September 19, 2010 8:37 AM

      This "game' is interesting, lots of things to do, but no real end game or long term satisfaction pay off is there? I spent about 4 hours playing yesterday, built sprawling bases, tunnels connecting them, various weapons to kill things to get things to built more things and on and on and that was fun, still is. But for how long? People are now having fun with the meta game of building large structures that stick out on a map, which looks fun and creative. It just reminds me of Animal Crossing with the ability to build in the sense that while there's alot to do, there just not alot to do if that makes sense. None of it is meaningful towards building a climax for an end game. And yet, I can't stop thinking of how I can improve my base or explore other areas. Interesting game.

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        September 19, 2010 8:38 AM

        It's really in alpha still, there is very little "game". The multiplayer is in even worse shape, there is no game at all to speak of.

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          September 19, 2010 8:41 AM

          Right and I think it's got tons of potential. It also reminds me of LBP as it's strength lies not so much in it's own gameplay but the gameplay others come up with based on it's tools and structure. The most fun I had in LBP was checking out other people's creations. I am sure it's going to turn into something majorly cool and evolve.

          Does Minecraft MP allow you to show off things you've built like LBP or is it essentially just a randomized map everyone can join in and fuck around with?

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            September 19, 2010 8:44 AM

            Right now there is no easy way to show off anything you've made in single player, they are seperate maps from sp and mp. You can load your sp map up into a mp server and show people around that way however.

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              September 19, 2010 8:46 AM

              He can run Cartographer on his SP map or Oizomapper once MrOizo releases it tomorrow.

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                September 19, 2010 8:59 AM

                Well sure yeah, but that's not as fun as actually seeing the minecart rollercoaster and riding on it!

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          September 19, 2010 9:19 AM

          At this rate it'll be in beta by this time next year.

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            September 19, 2010 9:21 AM

            Notch is pretty much full-time developing it now, and he's hiring staff. I'd be surprised if it wasn't sooner.

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        September 19, 2010 8:38 AM

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        September 19, 2010 8:42 AM

        I hope he concentrates less on getting multiplayer up to par and more about adding content.

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          September 19, 2010 8:54 AM

          I hope he doesn't add any content before he fixes stuff that's already in. Minecarts, enemies, hit points...

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            September 19, 2010 9:07 AM

            That's good. I just don't want him stressing on multi shit. I'd rather neat shit to do in singleplayer.

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        September 19, 2010 9:11 AM

        Notch has said that there will be an end-game for the SP content. Re: multi, it doesn't really need an endgame, but just more options of what to do. There's tons of stuff going on on Merc's server and there aren't even any enemies yet. It's only going to get better with time.

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          September 19, 2010 9:16 AM

          That would be great and I just find it interesting that despite there being no end game, no build up or much of anything really other than a sandbox, it's highly entertaining.

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        September 19, 2010 9:22 AM

        Multiplayer has a lot of promise, but it still has a ways to go. I'm perfectly content to enjoy SP for now and then return to MP later after it's gone through a few more upgrades. $13 for an amazing game built by a single developer was a no-brainer. And now that he's got the cash, Notch can afford to -- and is currently very much in the process of -- ramp up on the staff to support his game.

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      September 19, 2010 8:38 AM

      Ok,this is totally awesome..i found a enemy in single player i have not seen before...its a huge 3x3 green block monster that ticks.I'm too scared to go close though. Was it added this weekend or what?

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      September 19, 2010 8:47 AM

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        September 19, 2010 8:54 AM

        It's been doing that since the new patch. Just close out the client and try to reconnect.

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        September 19, 2010 9:21 AM

        try to log in from the website instead of your local client, you get the error message (most of the time you have a space in the ip) he forgot to .Trim();

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      September 19, 2010 9:44 AM

      SERVER DOWN :[

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        September 19, 2010 9:44 AM

        :(((((((((

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        September 19, 2010 9:44 AM

        yah looks like it :(

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        September 19, 2010 9:44 AM

        Might have to do with Merc also timing out of TS.

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          September 19, 2010 9:45 AM

          Fuckin' thing sucks.

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          September 19, 2010 9:46 AM

          ahh maybe his internet connection dropped or he blew the circuit breaker again :(

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            September 19, 2010 9:47 AM

            I hope he just lost internet connection. We just leveled a hill :(

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              September 19, 2010 9:49 AM

              It's usually pretty good about keeping track of changes before it takes a dump. Your position on the server and inventory may change, though.

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        September 19, 2010 9:47 AM

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          September 19, 2010 9:48 AM

          I tossed a diamond pick at the same time too.

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        September 19, 2010 10:03 AM

        Yeah, RAMDisk is done. Not using that solution again.

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          September 19, 2010 10:18 AM

          What is wrong with the RAMdisk?

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            September 19, 2010 10:20 AM

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              September 19, 2010 10:22 AM

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              September 19, 2010 10:24 AM

              Why on earth would you store the map backups in RAM?

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                September 19, 2010 10:28 AM

                ^^^^^^^^

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                September 19, 2010 10:35 AM

                It's not the map backups, it's the render copies. The backup was 4 hours old, and took the same amount of time to write to disk, so it's a wash when I want to take a nonvolatile backup.

                Also RAMDisk blows because passingstranger's autosave script gives me a 30 minute rollback point even if the power goes out. Having the program in RAM blows it all away, it's a bad solution.

                In effect, I get faster write speeds (you guys don't see that anyways) in exchange for volatile storage. No deal. Not using RAMDisk anymore.

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                  September 19, 2010 10:37 AM

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                  September 19, 2010 10:38 AM

                  I don't understand. You are saying ramdisk blows because you stored your backups on it instead of on a hard drive? If your map is over 100mb, the rysnc cuts your backup time by a large margin, and if you run the server from a ramdisk and backup to a hdd it cuts your backup time by nearly 1/3. That's fine you don't wanna use ramdisk, but blaming your problems now on ramdisk is like you blaming your problems earlier on explorers.

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                    September 19, 2010 10:44 AM

                    why would you put backups on ramdisk?

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                      September 19, 2010 10:45 AM

                      There's an echo in here.

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                      September 19, 2010 10:45 AM

                      They weren't. Those are non-active copies of the world so I can take a render.

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                        September 19, 2010 10:47 AM

                        So the problem is you backed up 4 hours ago and will lose up to then? What does RAMDisk have to do with it and why does it suck?

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                          September 19, 2010 10:48 AM

                          The problem is I would've lost a maximum of 30 minutes if it wasn't running RAMDisk.

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                            September 19, 2010 10:50 AM

                            But you said you didn't have backups on the ram drive fox. You need to make up your mind. Are their backups on the ram drive or are they just render backups? If they are actual server backups, why on earth would you store them on the ram drive instead of saving them on the hdd or copying to the hdd?

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                              September 19, 2010 10:56 AM

                              I've made up my mind, and I'm not using RAMDisk. Don't take it personally, it's just not a good solution for what pros and cons there are.

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                                September 19, 2010 10:58 AM

                                can you explain the process/workflow of the assorted backups and renders? I don't know how they work at all

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                                  September 19, 2010 11:06 AM

                                  You shouldn't run a map render on the live server, so people have been making backups and running them off those. My server, for example, has a 250 megabyte map running off a ramdisk that I backup using rsync. It takes 4-7 minutes to backup depending on how many changes have been made. I then run a render off the backup, which takes maybe 15-20 minutes.

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                                  September 19, 2010 11:08 AM

                                  I'll put up a paint diagram for ya.

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                                September 19, 2010 11:03 AM

                                Another time you blame something else instead of just manning up. Exploring didn't break your map, ramdisk didn't break your map. You are a horrible server adminstrator, deal with it MercFox. Sitting here and blaming the tools cause you don't know how or just suck at using them is full retard.

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                                  September 19, 2010 11:05 AM

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                                  September 19, 2010 11:06 AM

                                  Please stop.

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                                    September 19, 2010 11:08 AM

                                    Stop pointing out the truth and facts? Yeah, I'll get right on that.

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                                      September 19, 2010 11:09 AM

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                                        September 19, 2010 11:13 AM

                                        yah someone has some sand blocks in his vagina.. lol

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                                        September 19, 2010 11:16 AM

                                        I don't give a flying fuck about server designations. I find it hilarious when 3 other people have made servers that are all better run than his and they rarely even get recognition. Then he keeps fucking up and blaming it on other shit? Official indeed. I still have people bitch at me about map exploring thinking it causes problems.

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                                          September 19, 2010 11:17 AM

                                          Didn't you just post that your server keeps hard locking?

                                          Better run indeed.

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                                            September 19, 2010 11:20 AM

                                            Yeah the wireless card physically went out. I got it backed up and rerunning in less than 40 minutes. I'd say that's pretty well run :) Lemme know when you guys fix your problem caused by admin error.

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                                              September 19, 2010 11:21 AM

                                              Your problem seems to be caused by personality order. Get off it.

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                                            September 19, 2010 11:24 AM

                                            He is just pissy that his server isn't the "official" shack server... Mercfox has been running Minecraft servers since well before SMP even hit. And well if AgentPothead had gotten up a SMP server before Mercfox. I bet his would of been the main server.

                                            No one knew really what caused the problems on Mercfox's server when he started having corruption problems. I'm sure AgentPothead would of had the exact same problems if his server would of been primary server. People would of demanded renders just the same and we would of had the exact same problems no matter who was running the main server.

                                            No one had a frame of reference with the server software... it was all trial by fire.

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                                              September 19, 2010 11:29 AM

                                              That's bullshit Shadowdane. The map corruption was caused by him running a render on a live server while people were on it. If you guys wanna back him up, tha'ts fine. But at least know what was actually happening. That's my biggest beef is that people keep jumping to his defense, when it's obvious he's the one causing the problems his server is having.

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                                                September 19, 2010 11:32 AM

                                                I ran live renders because the people you're shitting on, the people who wanted to play Minecraft and see their constructions, asked me for it, and I provided.

                                                You should really shut the fuck up.

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                                                  September 19, 2010 11:43 AM

                                                  The only person I'm shitting on is you, the same person who ran the renders. If you can't man up that's fine dood, but acting like you didn't cause every problem your server has had is full retard.

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                                                    September 19, 2010 11:44 AM

                                                    shut up shut up shut up shut up shut up

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                                                    September 19, 2010 11:45 AM

                                                    talk about a derail. you're acting like a real fuckhead for no reason.

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                                                September 19, 2010 11:38 AM

                                                haha yah and no one knew about this until we figured it out it was causing the problem... i bet you would of had the exact same problem 2 months ago if everyone was on your server instead asking for renders almost every 2-3 hours.

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                                          September 19, 2010 11:19 AM

                                          You seem like you care, quite a bit

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                                          September 19, 2010 11:22 AM

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                                      September 19, 2010 11:11 AM

                                      Stop being so unpleasant.

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                                  September 19, 2010 11:12 AM

                                  Whoa, ease up man.

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                                  September 19, 2010 12:27 PM

                                  You're a fucking dick.

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                                  September 19, 2010 3:30 PM

                                  Yes... I can feel your anger. Take one more step and your journey to the Dark Side will be complete

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                                September 19, 2010 11:13 AM

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                                  September 19, 2010 11:23 AM

                                  EXACTLY. This is exactly what happens, and an unexpected power outage nuked everything in RAMDisk.

                                  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7834948/zomg_paint.jpg

                                  Now, imagine everything in the orange outlined box being wiped out. I got super lucky I took a full backup because I didn't trust the RAM approach completely.

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                                    September 19, 2010 11:25 AM

                                    I think my only question was why the 30 minute save/backup wasn't put directly on the HDD

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                                      September 19, 2010 11:29 AM

                                      Because he's a horrible admin and yet you guys pile on me when I point it out :/

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                                        September 19, 2010 11:31 AM

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                                        September 19, 2010 11:32 AM

                                        No, we pile on you because you're publicly crapping all over a guy who's running a free service which has been running well enough that people aren't leaving in droves.

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                                        September 19, 2010 11:34 AM

                                        Hey, I'm upset and a little puzzled that backups weren't stored somewhere better, but you know, everyone makes mistakes. I'm sure some things you do aren't perfect either. What am I gonna do, take Penis Island to another server? I don't think so.

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                                          September 19, 2010 11:37 AM

                                          You're _jon, you can get away with penis island anywhere, even the server that looks down on pixel art.

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                                            September 19, 2010 11:51 AM

                                            The only thing I'll be looking down on is Penis Island. From the observation tower tonight. It's going to be a beautiful clear night.

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                                            September 19, 2010 12:45 PM

                                            pixel art is dumb when it blocks the view. i got lost on the creative server like infinite times

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                                        September 19, 2010 8:05 PM

                                        RAMDisk would probably be preferable to nuking your HDD with all the writing it 's doing. I hear of HDD's being destroyed by Minecrafts disk I/O.. I thought perhaps this was why Merc was using it.

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                                      September 19, 2010 11:30 AM

                                      The 30 min save thing is actually a python script Passingstranger wrote to hook into the minecraft server and use the /save-all command.

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                                        September 19, 2010 11:31 AM

                                        save-all doesn't make any backups, all it does is save all world in memory to disk.

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                        September 19, 2010 10:47 AM

                        oh, i'm just confused. trying to watch football and keep up with this nonsense confuses me

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          September 19, 2010 10:20 AM

          what happened?

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            September 19, 2010 10:30 AM

            he had the entire server running in a RAMdisk and his roommate blew a circuit breaker which lost the last 4 hours of work.

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          September 19, 2010 10:33 AM

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            September 19, 2010 10:34 AM

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            September 19, 2010 10:35 AM

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            September 19, 2010 10:36 AM

            foo's got several servers lined up for me at his facility in Tampa. It's under control, he's just out of town and we can't migrate until Monday.

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              September 19, 2010 10:40 AM

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                September 19, 2010 10:42 AM

                You should come make a settlement on Merc's server, Bean :)

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                  September 19, 2010 11:00 AM

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                    September 19, 2010 11:06 AM

                    I kinda agree, I'm not a big fan of the circus freak show thing, it's why I went and found an island and started doing my own thing.

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                      September 19, 2010 11:23 AM

                      Yeah, this is why I went off to establish my own town.

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              September 19, 2010 10:45 AM

              Specs wise, I don't have anything specific, but I recommend at least 2GB for the MC Server, and a 2 MB up connection.

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                September 19, 2010 10:51 AM

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                  September 19, 2010 10:56 AM

                  your comments on java are amusing :P

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                    September 19, 2010 11:06 AM

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                      September 19, 2010 11:10 AM

                      well part of that is the game has to generate the world on the fly at least when your exploring... any other game just displays pre-created content. In areas I've already explored it runs great for me usually 200-400fps actually.

                      Of course multiplayer performance is another thing entirely, the netcode is spotty at best.

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                        September 19, 2010 11:13 AM

                        it seems fairly CPU bound, it runs like garbage on my wife's laptop (or maybe she just has a junk video card and it falls back on CPU? I dunno)

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                          September 19, 2010 11:14 AM

                          probably video card, it runs great on my GTX260 & i7-860. It hardly touches the CPU maybe 15-20% usage while my GPU usage sits close to 80-95%.

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                        September 19, 2010 11:16 AM

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              September 19, 2010 10:48 AM

              you planning on running multiple instances or multiple servers or what?

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              September 19, 2010 11:09 AM

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                September 19, 2010 11:11 AM

                i don't think it needs a crazy beefy server, its mostly the bandwidth holding things back right now.

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                September 19, 2010 11:20 AM

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                  September 19, 2010 11:22 AM

                  Is stuff going to be moved over or will it be a clean slate?

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                    September 19, 2010 11:24 AM

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                      September 19, 2010 11:25 AM

                      also less giant penises

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                        September 19, 2010 11:27 AM

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                          September 19, 2010 11:27 AM

                          eh? I don't follow.

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                            September 19, 2010 11:30 AM

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                              September 19, 2010 11:33 AM

                              Right, it would be "officially" labeled as a Serious Business servers and the occupants reserve the right to destroy any giant penises :P

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                                September 19, 2010 11:36 AM

                                I'm not playing on any server with a home owners association.

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                                  September 19, 2010 11:37 AM

                                  I will put a lien on your giant penis

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                            September 19, 2010 11:30 AM

                            He means the average shacker will build a penis within the first 5 minutes of joining a fresh open server.

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                      September 19, 2010 11:26 AM

                      yah fresh servers are nice every once in a while...

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                    September 19, 2010 11:24 AM

                    I'd like it to be moved over after foo and I do testing. Should be pretty easy to do so.

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                      September 19, 2010 11:26 AM

                      I know some people are fans of the cock&lols, but some people not - perhaps a second fresh, Serious Business server?

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                        September 19, 2010 11:29 AM

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                          September 19, 2010 11:30 AM

                          Monsters won't really stop anything. It's easy enough to hide in the ground during the night, or just build a dirt tower and hide in the sky.

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                            September 19, 2010 11:33 AM

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                              September 19, 2010 11:36 AM

                              i'm guessing there is no eta on the available of real SMP creepers?

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                            September 19, 2010 11:36 AM

                            Creepers are gonna fuck shit up once they hit mp! It's going to be glorious!

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                              September 19, 2010 11:50 AM

                              what can creepers do?

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                                September 19, 2010 11:53 AM

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                                September 19, 2010 11:53 AM

                                They explode when they get near you, leaving quite large craters. If you are near anything you've built it tends to leave a huge gaping hole in that as well.

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                                  September 19, 2010 11:54 AM

                                  can they randomly blow stuff up or do they have to be near somebody? so if you build a castle around yourself, can they get in at all?

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                                    September 19, 2010 11:58 AM

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                                    September 19, 2010 2:08 PM

                                    If you build a castle and light the interior so that mobs will not spawn inside of it, you will be safe in there.

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                        September 19, 2010 11:29 AM

                        It would be nice if we could make use of the fact that we have 4 servers to separate the people who want to build obnoxious stuff and the people who want to build more serious stuff.

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                      September 19, 2010 11:37 AM

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                        September 19, 2010 11:49 AM

                        Hopefully those warp gates Notch was talking about will be in at some point. Being able to jump long distances with a trip through Hell would be awesome.

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                          September 19, 2010 12:33 PM

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                            September 19, 2010 2:49 PM

                            Just build a house in the Hell dimension! Build it right over top of a pivotal warp gate too, then charge people iron ingots or diamonds if they want to use it.

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                September 19, 2010 11:25 AM

                Also have I told you how sexy you are today? :3

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            September 19, 2010 10:40 AM

            From what I've seen the server is very hard disk intensive, makes a lot of writes to the disk. CPU & Memory usage isn't that bad really about 400-600MB usage usually. Everything I've read says 1GB available for 20 players. I'm sure with larger maps it uses more, but the map for my server is only about 35MB currently. And as we've seen on Mercfox1's server 1mbps upstream isn't enough for a 20 player server.

            A single player averages about ~15kb/sec when moving around a lot or making changes to the world. So you'd want at least 2.5-3Mbps upstream available to host a 20 player server. Anything less and everyone gets a lot of lag.

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              September 19, 2010 10:43 AM

              ^^^^ Bandwidth is probably the biggest, with disk IO in second. It reads every time somebody goes into an area, and if save-on is set it also writes every so often to any area in view range of a player.

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            September 19, 2010 10:44 AM

            Here's a tricky situation, there is already some rivalry between the different server admins, I'm not sure they're going to help another one get off the ground.

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              September 19, 2010 10:48 AM

              There is no rivalry, the other server admins just think it's amusing the worst run server is the "official" one :)

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                September 19, 2010 10:49 AM

                well that's some passive agressive poopiness

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                September 19, 2010 10:49 AM

                Sounds like you have an issue, you should take it up with that server's admin.

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                September 19, 2010 10:51 AM

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                  September 19, 2010 10:52 AM

                  I'm sure Haxim and Zuff appreciate you not even mentioning them.

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                  September 19, 2010 10:53 AM

                  I don't know about that second designation. There's already Penis Island and what looks like a gecko growing between spawn and Port Thong.

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                    September 19, 2010 10:55 AM

                    Gecko/dragon is a 3d cave, its not a 2d image.

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                September 19, 2010 10:51 AM

                Well in Merc's defense his server DOES have one more giant penis than yours, thus making it a more 'Shacknews' server.

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                September 19, 2010 10:53 AM

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                September 19, 2010 10:56 AM

                No rivalry indeed

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                September 19, 2010 11:19 AM

                Nice.

                It's always great to have friendliness and sportsmanship in a community. I'm glad that you're setting such an example of a selfless, friendly and well-mannered person in a community.

                Yeah...

                Sure.

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                September 19, 2010 11:27 AM

                His server went up first, we all established ourselves there. The rest of you guys jumped on the bandwagon late so what do you expect?

                Your server is dumb anyway. Looks like a glorified creative server.

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                September 19, 2010 11:30 AM

                GUYS LOOK AT WHAT MINECRAFT IS DOING TO OUR COMMUNITY!! :( :( :(

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                  September 19, 2010 11:40 AM

                  yah i got bored with creative after playing it for months

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                    September 19, 2010 11:46 AM

                    I don't even know what that means, I haven't even played online yet. Just got the game yesterday. About to go make sure there's no fucking pigs in my base again. >:(

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                      September 19, 2010 12:51 PM

                      that was a misreply... should of been to the post above yours. whoops

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                September 19, 2010 11:33 AM

                lol

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                September 19, 2010 11:37 AM

                ENTITLED ADMIN HERE

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                September 19, 2010 12:35 PM

                Lol... If Shack server admins are doing it for recognition then they shouldn't be doing it at all. Chill out dude and stop worrying about recognition, just have fun and play the game.

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                  September 19, 2010 12:40 PM

                  And your tirade today is probably going to have more people migrating away from your server if anything...

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                September 19, 2010 12:36 PM

                Grow up.

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            September 19, 2010 11:25 AM

            it'd be a little complicated but couldn't you require people to tunnel in via ssh and password protect that way?

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      September 19, 2010 9:59 AM

      My server keeps hardlocking. I'm moving it to new hardware now :/

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        September 19, 2010 10:35 AM

        Should be ok. No promises. Please lemme know if shit hits the fan again :( I think the wireless card is failing.

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      September 19, 2010 10:42 AM

      dont mind me....just posting..... also...diamond pl0x!

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      September 19, 2010 11:48 AM

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      September 19, 2010 11:51 AM

      UPDATED OIZOMAPPER RENDER - Shacknews East:

      http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7834948/20100919_1450.png

      Rendered: 2:50 PM EST

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        September 19, 2010 11:52 AM

        404 YOURE THE WORST ADMIN EVER WHY DONT YOU KILL YOURSELF

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        September 19, 2010 11:53 AM

        UNOFFICIAL RENDER

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        September 19, 2010 12:01 PM

        Ooh, the trees around my house has grown. Need to get in there and light then now then. :D Just need to finish writing this crap. :(

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          September 19, 2010 12:03 PM

          what are you writing

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            September 19, 2010 12:06 PM

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              September 19, 2010 12:22 PM

              Shit, how did yo know? :O

              Yeah, Shack is making me procrastinate instead of writing job applications. :P (Don't worry though, already sent the one to Mojang!)

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        September 19, 2010 12:25 PM

        So lava doesn't flow on glass? Cause I made my giant tower with the intention of lava flowing through the spirals. This sucks.

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      September 19, 2010 12:16 PM

      This entire minecraft thread has turned into an abomination :(

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        September 19, 2010 12:18 PM

        There's one good post in the middle http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=24034842 :D

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          September 19, 2010 12:27 PM

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            September 19, 2010 12:56 PM

            Thanks! The obsidian is going to be the doors, just haven't gotten around to resetting them after we moved the walls on that floor around.

            We're approaching the skybox at lightning speed, I need another 64 blocks vertically to really do this place justice... But then, of course, I'd have no idea what to put inside all of those floors. Minecraft needs furniture, dammit.

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              September 19, 2010 1:08 PM

              Notch confirmed via Twitter that he is adding beds (along with other furniture), and that you might even be able to take a nap!

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                September 19, 2010 1:09 PM

                Take a nap to regain health or maybe get health boost for a little while after a nap?

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                September 19, 2010 1:23 PM

                I saw that. Something about beds being used to set your own spawn point? So you can respawn in your own castle when you die?

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        September 19, 2010 12:41 PM

        I literally never, after all my years of Shacking, after watching countless dickheads and douchebags come and go, after being here through 9/11, the departure of Steve Gibson, Quake III threads and Duke Nukem Forever news...I literally never thought we would have Minecraft drama.

        Jesus. Buttfucking. Christ.

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          September 19, 2010 12:49 PM

          The shack can add drama to anything. Anything.

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          September 19, 2010 12:50 PM

          You call this drama?

          This is just some asshole being an asshole

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            September 19, 2010 12:58 PM

            Yeah, agreed. Just never thought anyone would take this game that seriously. I mean I like it and it's fun...but there's literally no skill, competition or anything involved. It's a game where you make graph paper genitals. Donno. Just feels like jumping someone over Minesweeper to me.

            (This game kicks the shit out of minesweeper. Just sayin')

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      September 19, 2010 12:58 PM

      Does anyone have a link to that circle-making guide image handy?

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      September 19, 2010 1:19 PM

      neato, i went to the minecraft site just now to buy the game and it tells me its unavailable :(

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        September 19, 2010 1:20 PM

        nevermind, free to play weekend NICE!

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        September 19, 2010 1:27 PM

        yah the update yesterday killed Notch's server, check back later this week...

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      September 19, 2010 1:28 PM

      Welp my server just lit on fire.

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        September 19, 2010 1:34 PM

        In-game or IRL?

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          September 19, 2010 1:39 PM

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          September 19, 2010 1:42 PM

          Offline. The server froze up so I restarted it. Noticed the electrical fire smell, cracked open the side and the video card had multiple fires on it and it had started to melt the wire harnessing. I've gotten it back up with another video card, but apparently the hdd was toasted it keeps asking for a boot sector :/

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            September 19, 2010 1:53 PM

            Holy shit. Does that mean your server's world is toast, or what?

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              September 19, 2010 1:57 PM

              Trying to grab the latest backup off secondary hdd. Will still lose most of today's work I think :(

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            September 19, 2010 2:47 PM

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              September 19, 2010 2:51 PM

              There were 3 capacitors on fire and one of them was very close to the main power supply wire harness so it melted it a bit. If I was not here to catch it I'm worried I coulda burned the house down :/ That pc is now off until I can go through piece by piece and make sure what is working and what is not.

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        September 19, 2010 1:38 PM

        What a coincidence...

        I wonder why it's on fire.

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        September 19, 2010 2:08 PM

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        September 19, 2010 2:16 PM

        You're such a great server admin we should all worship you as a god and renounce MercFox as if he were the devil himself.

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          September 19, 2010 2:18 PM

          Okay troll.

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            September 19, 2010 2:26 PM

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            September 19, 2010 6:30 PM

            Sorry. I don't know you and you probably don't know me, but I'm very respectful of people who don't post stupid shit and/or are disrespectful of others. The first time you've made an impression on me it's not a good one; you shit all over MercFox and all of the effort he has put into his server for us. Maybe he isn't a perfect admin, and there's nothing wrong with pointing it out so that he can improve, but when you do it in the dissonant and condescending manner that you've assumed in this thread not only will you not pursued him, but you piss off all of us who are grateful for all of the effort he has exerted on our collective behalf.

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              September 19, 2010 6:32 PM

              persuade not perused or whatever the hell my iphone decided on.

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        September 19, 2010 3:40 PM

        I wondered what happened to it! :(

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      September 19, 2010 1:39 PM

      Hey guys, I made a totally sweet monster trap outside my house where monsters normally congregate, yet none are falling in. How can I lure monsters to my trap?

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      September 19, 2010 1:40 PM

      Has anyone recreated the Doom levels in Minecraft?

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        September 19, 2010 1:50 PM

        Not doom, but I'm planning on doing this zelda dungeon. http://faqsmedia.ign.com/faqs/image/engel_zelda01.gif I just need to decide on what Height it should be, I'm thinking 4 squares which is double the player size.

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          September 19, 2010 1:52 PM

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          September 19, 2010 1:55 PM

          You should try doing a straight pixel-to-block conversion, and then when people go inside they should have to guess what it is.

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            September 19, 2010 1:57 PM

            Pixel by pixel would be ginormous. The largest one I've seen so far was the guido anchovy and I think that is only 128x128. 1440x900 would probably cause me to go even more insane.

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              September 19, 2010 2:16 PM

              I think block-for-block would be much more reasonable. Or maybe something like each zelda block expands to 4x4x2 minecraft blocks. That works well with the doors.

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                September 19, 2010 2:17 PM

                I was going to count each "block" in the dungeon as a block in game world. Looks like it would translate pretty good, just not sure on the height.

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                  September 19, 2010 4:02 PM

                  Yeah, that could work but I thought it'd be a little tight. Having each block in the dungeon go to a 4x4x3 space (changed my mind from 2) might be a little easier to navigate, especially when you have rooms that look like checkerboards.

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                    September 19, 2010 4:03 PM

                    It would be huge though. Wouldn't it be better to try and scale it to the minecraft people size?

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                      September 19, 2010 8:52 PM

                      Well, Minecraft people are 1x1x2. Top-down and first-person are very different perspectives though, and I have a feeling that giving the avatar some breathing room would go a long way to making it feel better.

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                        September 19, 2010 8:53 PM

                        oh, also I meant to say 2x2, not 4x4. Sorry for being crazy.

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                          September 21, 2010 5:43 PM

                          Ahh 2x2 makes more sense okay. Also yay to replying to threads 2 days old

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                            September 21, 2010 10:43 PM

                            I do it too! Yay ParentAuthor Search.

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          September 19, 2010 2:41 PM

          WOWWWWWWWWW once the bad guys are working stuff like this will be awwsome

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            September 19, 2010 8:12 PM

            I was going to say 'why not just go replay Doom'...but then I remembered I've tried to recreate DooM E1M1 in just about every set of tools I could get my hands on, Q1,Q2,Q3, etc etc. So by all means!

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      September 19, 2010 2:38 PM

      ATTN: MercFox1 - server is full??

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      September 19, 2010 3:02 PM

      shackeast - lampopolis menz: any of you around still? Building anything cool?

      Anyone else want to recruit me for a cool project?

      Hell was looking cool since i like the idea of a totally underground city but I couldnt find anyone down there.

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      September 19, 2010 3:48 PM

      Whoever blew up our deathstar, you are a bad person and I hope you can't sleep at night.

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        September 19, 2010 3:56 PM

        It was MercFox.

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          September 19, 2010 4:01 PM

          Highly doubtful. They also hit the mana/power potions, the bong, and the side tower. Also completely fucked spongebob. Everything except his obsidian eyes & smiley which are floating.

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            September 19, 2010 4:07 PM

            I was kidding, shit, had no idea griefing had come to your server, really pathetic.

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              September 19, 2010 4:11 PM

              Yeah I know yer kidding :P I don't think he'd do anything like that anyway. Got hit with some minor griefing last week when the other servers did too. This happened sometime between the 16th and the 18th though, and it is a lot worse than flooding somebodies house. They basically set tnt off alllll over and then covered what they had blown up with lava and water. I see some random names in the logs, but it doesn't log placing of tnt, only people who use the /give.

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                September 19, 2010 4:46 PM

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                  September 19, 2010 4:52 PM

                  The inventory is still very hackable, it's mad easy to pop into a server with an inventory filled to the brim with anything you like. The server logs /give and I didn't notice anything in there, but I did notice a couple new names that I didn't recognize. It doesn't log placement though, and with this unverified weekend, somebody could show up under any name they like with anything they want in their inventory. Short of nerfing the TNT at serverside there is nothing you can do. I hate to have to nerf the game for real players just because some loser wants to try and ruin things. I even made a /warp tnt where all the regulars go to let tnt off, so that is another finger pointing at a random joiner.

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                    September 19, 2010 4:56 PM

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                      September 19, 2010 5:01 PM

                      I had to roll back to the 17th but yes I am all set now. I'm honestly surprised nobody noticed the GIANT FUCKING LAVA POLE next to our spawn for the last 2 days, but with that login where you logout, I doubt many people saw the spawn.

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            September 19, 2010 4:39 PM

            My sponge bob! noooOOoo. Leave bob out of this people!!

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              September 19, 2010 4:42 PM

              I really don't get why they would even go after him. The bong I can understand since some people don't like pot, heck even the deathstar I can understand since some of you are rebel scum. But spongebob squarepants never hurt anybody!

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                September 19, 2010 5:18 PM

                You rolling back?

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                  September 19, 2010 5:26 PM

                  Aye, everything from the 19th and 18th was fucked, I found one about 9pm eastern on the 17th that looks ok. I hope we didn't lose a lot of work :( It seemed quiet most weekend though.

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        September 19, 2010 4:44 PM

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          September 19, 2010 4:47 PM

          Don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.

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          September 19, 2010 5:02 PM

          It was nothing huge. http://agentpothead.com/nomoon.png But it was ours :( Peetabix did most of it and me and GenericUser helped him finish it off.

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            September 19, 2010 5:14 PM

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              September 19, 2010 5:25 PM

              I think that's just the angle making the water texture look weird. I do use custom zelda textures, but I'm pretty sure water & lava are both the base textures since their location is hardcoded.

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      September 19, 2010 4:00 PM

      Just lost all my gear after a spelunking death followed by a java crash. Fortunately, only lost a diamond sword, ~50 arrows and feathers, compass, ~50 wheat, ~6 newfound steel ore, 2 buckets, 64 tree saplings, bunch of tree stumps, planks, and sticks, maybe 10 ladders.

      Point is, don't carry all your shit on you. All of my gear was easily replaceable.

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      September 19, 2010 4:02 PM

      Hey Mercfox1, I think given the complete lack of lava griefing, it should be safe to turn back on TnT as well for the server!

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      September 19, 2010 4:02 PM

      Is the minecraft wiki down too? I just found a waterfall and a lavafall in my basement. What neat stuff can I do with it?

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        September 19, 2010 4:08 PM

        It looks like everything is down, including the forums. I'm just waiting until everything is back up before playing again, it's a huge cluster fuck.

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          September 19, 2010 8:53 PM

          Didn't realize he ran the *pedia, too. I figured it was a community thing on a different server somewhere else.

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      September 19, 2010 4:21 PM

      ADVANCED WARNING:

      Guys, I have a TF2 tournament match in 39 minutes. I'm going to be taking the server offline for the duration of the match. Should be about 2 hours of downtime. Just letting you know in advance.

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      September 19, 2010 4:48 PM

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      September 19, 2010 6:37 PM

      ITS UP!!!!

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      September 19, 2010 6:47 PM

      UPDATED OIZOMAPPER RENDER - Shacknews East:

      http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7834948/20100919_2146.png

      Rendered: 9:47 PM EST

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      September 19, 2010 6:50 PM

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      September 19, 2010 7:09 PM

      Saddle found in SP dungeon chest. For pigs? I and going to try to put in on a sheep. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAwZqQxHsoc

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      September 19, 2010 7:34 PM

      EIGHT HUNDRED AND TWENTY SEVEN REPLIES?!!??

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        September 19, 2010 7:39 PM

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          September 19, 2010 7:43 PM

          No but I'm starting to think I should just go ahead and conform

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        September 19, 2010 7:42 PM

        This thread is fucking HUUUUUGE!!!!

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        September 19, 2010 8:41 PM

        Oh we're nearly at the big 1000, just another 110 to go. All we need is another drama subthread and we'll have it.

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          September 19, 2010 8:47 PM

          I really think we should use the current map as a new server and have MercFox1 keep running the existing world on the old server.

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      September 19, 2010 7:45 PM

      Posting in an epic mine craft thread.

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      September 19, 2010 8:08 PM

      UPDATED CARTOGRAPHER - Shacknews WashDC - http://shadowdane.shackspace.com/Minecraft/shackdc-9192010-2300.png

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      September 19, 2010 8:31 PM

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        September 19, 2010 8:37 PM

        Wow, yeah my kids and I are working on a castle in SP (because I can't go walking around Penis Island with them around ya know). Every time I get home from work my kids beg me to play, the creepers have my son enthralled, he drew one the other day, it's on the fridge. LOL

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      September 19, 2010 8:33 PM

      Has anyone thought about the rammifications this game is having on their job/life? I've been doing nothing but minecraft lately. Nothing. I'm really kind of scared..I haven't obsessed over a game this much since WoW back in 05...

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        September 19, 2010 8:38 PM

        yah slightly... my place has gotten a bit behind on chores due to this game. I haven't been this addicted to a game in a while.

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          September 19, 2010 8:47 PM

          I spent an hour painstakingly renovating my minecraft house then turned around and my real house was a pigsty.

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        September 19, 2010 8:45 PM

        You get to a point where you craze monsters AND other people and that's when it pretty much ends.

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        September 19, 2010 9:02 PM

        why? There isn't 'much' to do in the game. How are you keeping yourselves entertained for so long. I guess I am the type of gamer who needs there to be an end game and rewards for your progress and not rewards that you have to build.

        I'm just curious.

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          September 19, 2010 9:06 PM

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          September 19, 2010 9:16 PM

          its online legos with your friends. the crafting system is pretty neat.

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          September 19, 2010 9:23 PM

          I'm pretty sure the only thing that will save me is Duke Nukem Forever.

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            September 19, 2010 9:23 PM

            ....people would have joked about that a couple of mere months ago, but no longer...just let that sink in. :) :)

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          September 19, 2010 10:13 PM

          its not for everyone... tried to get one of my friends into Minecraft he liked SP for about 3-4 hours then got bored with.

          I showed him around on a server once and he thought it was cool everything people had built, but didn't care to get into large building projects.

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        September 20, 2010 1:59 AM

        i know I have.. spent way too much time on it this weekend.

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        September 20, 2010 3:58 AM

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      September 19, 2010 9:21 PM

      Ok so I bought this the other day - I get the basics and stuff, but how in the heck are people making super complicated drawings and stuff? Is it seriously all just counting the blocks to make the shapes etc?

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      September 19, 2010 9:28 PM

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      September 19, 2010 9:31 PM

      heh i read your signs, vivid. don't trust me to build castles without a plan, cuz i don't know how to build one properly. plus, it was pretty lol leaving signs on the tower all passive-aggressively

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      September 19, 2010 9:37 PM

      Skeletons can ride spiders now? :(

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      September 19, 2010 11:07 PM

      free weekend was fun. was great to see the map in first person. Everyone was pretty welcoming too (though lol at some guy asking if I had "vandalized (his) tunnel". It was fun ti dig without worrying about mobs appearing out of thin air (I suck that way)

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      September 20, 2010 1:00 AM

      Orthanc / Isengard Indoor Oasis

      So for the 5th floor of the tower, we built it double high and put in a grass floor with the intention of growing trees there. Tonight, I got one quadrant done.

      Here's the initial layout, I've found super-seeding saplings like this leads to the best results in tight spaces -- http://www.shackpics.com/files/OrthancIndoorOasis1_y16voxb3hjl03wxo5p1z.jpg

      Ooh my first tree popped in, exciting -- http://www.shackpics.com/files/OrthancIndoorOasis2_qhwc3n9o519rzgwcvizx.jpg

      So then a couple more showed up, and I don't have a screenshot of it but for awhile there were 4-5 trees and I though "well, this looks ok." Then, this happened -- http://www.shackpics.com/files/OrthancIndoorOasis3_0syinnv8qbck87skeohj.jpg

      This is the kind of crazy shit that happens with super-seeding, the tree to the right of me has a natural trunk that is 2x2 -- http://www.shackpics.com/files/OrthancIndoorOasis4_5ji1gz2rhq0c3y0j5v85.jpg

      And looking up from the one semi-clear corner, you can see the branches go all the way up, stopping only at the dirt roof that was the temporary next floor -- http://www.shackpics.com/files/OrthancIndoorOasis5_sjnsoojf36uiq3ibc7nj.jpg

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      September 20, 2010 1:30 AM

      Lol, 900 posts

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      September 20, 2010 1:32 AM

      For Goblin Au : Someone who can feel your pain in lighters + wooden houses -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnjSWPxJxNs

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        September 20, 2010 1:40 AM

        holy shit lol.

        This is exactly what happened to me. FWHOOOMP~!

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          September 20, 2010 1:47 AM

          Yeah sorry man, it was posted last night and I just wish it had been posted Friday night and you saw it before the lighter incident.

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      September 20, 2010 2:55 AM

      I just logged in, found myself on a beach with a bouncy sheep getting all up in my face.. So I dug a big hole in the sand, pushed the sheep in and sealed the top.

      I think I'm under some stress.

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      September 20, 2010 4:19 AM

      fffuuuuuu was swapping some gold blocks with some iron blocks (the 9 ingot things) in a chest. Was some lag or something and about 60 ingots worth of iron are gone :(

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      September 20, 2010 4:50 AM

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      September 20, 2010 4:54 AM

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