Microsoft Increases Xbox Live Subscription Prices

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  And some people like to defend their favorite multi-national corporation. If this was about the val... : Beelzebud
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    Heh, a company adjusts it's pricing on a product and it is "ruining gaming." That's fantastic. : TickHeadDog
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      Try to keep up. It's not this rate hike that is ruining gaming. It's the fee in the first place. It'... : Beelzebud
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        But here's the thing - they DON'T make me pay anything for it. I pay for Xbox Live because I like the se... : maxwell97
        • "Come on, it takes more man-hours to make some of the DLC out now than it used to take to make entire gam... : ReckHavoc
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        It's why a 3 map pack for a game now costs 15.00, when they used to give that sort of thing away for free : ColoradoCNC
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          He doesn't. He just wants to rage at Microsoft and this price increase is a good excuse. : TickHeadDog
          • No, he provides valid discussion points. The Valve example is a tried and true argument. How does Val... : a176
        • Basically the only people that are not allowed to complain are the customers. Because if you complain you... : te[R]ror
        • That's true and I know where you're coming from on that point. He does however have a point with Micro... : mexpak
      • I wish you the best of luck if you ever plan on running a business. Back in the early 90's, things cou... : GaratNW
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  Signed: Microsoft spokes person : Batmanshack
  • Lol that's funny. I have no preference for MS over Sony or Nintendo, I just get tired of the constant bi... : maxwell97
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  lol, $800 for a decent gaming computer. Where do you live? Best online structure for 7 year old girls w... : SharpShooter324
  • You should feel right at home there. : Endymion_
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  PS3 is also a bluray player and it has free PSN, nice try MS : Sixcos
  • Then whay do Xbox Live players constantly outnumber PSN users? Microsoft knows they have a lock on the on... : CruelLEGACEY
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  But the PS3 does everything. Have I been lied to? : jaxpunk
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    It even bricks too! : mobab
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      Actually, that's a 360 exclusive : Vegetolo
      • tell that my friend who got the yellow light of death : sasquatchxing
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  Honestly the only thing that bothers me is I feel like I DON'T get much value for my money. I don't thin... : Lucy Labia
  • The community isn't really the fault of the service though is it? If anything it's very easy to play with... : Haxim
• It's good to see that we're continuing to do apples to oranges price comparisons so long after the launch... : SinistarX
• Actually even with a $200 the fee is pretty damn bad. Not to mention you really do need a hard drive, and... : phinn
• I agree this is the same bitching that people made when the price of games went up to $60 from $50. Price... : Dan 101

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  Yeah, $10 a year is like 2.7 cents a day! If you were serious about getting a 360, I can't see how thi... : kwperley
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    Well for a lot of people who come from PC gaming or even the PS3 (myself included) we know how much of a ... : ShXIII
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      And it should be free...because? : VegasX
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        Because your paying $50 a year for the ability to play online, and access to a few lame features such as ... : ReckHavoc
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          PSN happens to companies that think they can get by without charging a fee to support their ongoing netwo... : JamesArhy
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            Valve seems to do quite well by mitigating the cost with the royalties they make selling games on it. : shinobidye7
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              Valve has an entirely different model that isn't even remotely comparable. There are similarities, but th... : GaratNW
              • Who said anything about entitlement or them owing us something? What an asinine assumption to come up wit... : ReckHavoc
        • I have been a live subscriber for 6 years now. I don't give a crap about features like Facebook and Twitt... : CruelLEGACEY
    • Don''t even mention the PS3 if you're talking on-line integration. Xbox Live offers seamless integration... : kwperley
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    Its not just $10 a year. Its $60 a year. That's one game each year that he can't buy because he wants t... : HisDivineOrder
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      Isn't PSN a paid for service now, setup just like xbox with gold and silver levels of access? : X-Nice
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        No its a choice : ShXIII
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          please elaborate? : X-Nice
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            http://us.playstation.com/psn/playstation-plus/ in my opinion nothing worth paying for but at least you h... : ShXIII
            • Ahhh thank you. That is pretty clear now... : X-Nice
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      Lol this logic is retarded. He will probably spend $1,500 on cigarettes or $5,000 on alcohol in a single ... : VegasX
      • Real mature logic-attack his credibility by accusing him of addiction. : voodoo65
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        lol...people spend $13+ a day on alcohol? Also, ad hominem arguments are lame. : Rape.Farm
        • Holy shit! I've spent less than $50 over 2 years! Then again, I'm a sucker for the McFlurry, so it pro... : jodiuh
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    Yea great idea! so when does it end? soon it will be even more and its all because of people like you who... : Bill32399
    • It ends when nobody has a mortgage and the butcher gives away fillet mignon for the kindness of his heart... : Endymion_
  • Or you can look at it this way: $60 a year for multiplayer = $300 in 5 years. So in five years which ... : Fpsnut
• You really have nothing to lose except a few exclusives... The ps3 really has everything you need includ... : Batmanshack
• Buy the PS3 or build a gaming PC. : HisDivineOrder
• I feel you are trolling. Yeah, no one likes a price increase, but It's only about 84 cents extra per mont... : Machlol
• Eh, I've always just got mine for $30 on buy.com/amazon sales anyway.Get whichever system has the games y... : OmegaRed59
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  Get whatever system your friends have. : DinK
  • My friends all have PS3...because it has Blu and (now) saves them $60 a year. Had the 360's online been f... : Mitchell Gant
• Well if $10 a year, more than you were planning on spending anyway, is what's breaking the camels back fo... : Dan 101

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  That's actually a really good idea. I would go for that definitely. I would rather keep gold and remove a... : X-Nice
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    Yes, this is a good, sound, logical idea. But like most good, sound, and logical ideas, it will be crushe... : Khakimon
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      You're already paying $50. How is $10 more "one more game per year"? If it was primarily about all the... : GaratNW
      • You obviously havent read any of my other posts. Also, when did I say I didn't want to pay the $60 a year... : Khakimon
• Great idea man! too bad they will ignore it. : Bill32399

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• hahahaha, this is a joke right? : Dan 101

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  XBox Live has so many more features and functionality than it did even 2 years ago. You can't argue that... : MaxPete82
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    People pay because they have no choice if they want to play multi. I can't believe people still justify p... : ShXIII
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      Who says it should have been free? Just because you're used to something being free on the PC doesn't me... : MaxPete82
      • Lol yeah.. those Facebook and twitter intergrations are pretty amazing. : ReckHavoc
      • What because they have netflix? I can play it on my pc and my Wii without having to pay for a gold packag... : Bill32399
      • I wouldn't waste my time, I find that this is one of those subjects where people who don't like Live will... : ColoradoCNC
  • I don't give a shit about all that garbage, I just want to play multi with voice. This basic stuff shoul... : Fpsnut
  • True, Xbox live does have more features. But to be fair, gold wasnt worth the cost when it first came out... : rtrson
  • Yes, more *shitty* functionality. Netflix? Free on every platform except Xbox. Last.fm? Free on ever... : SinistarX
• I'm a console hater but you have to admit that Xbox Live is a lot more than just connecting people to pla... : Schnapple
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  ok well keep enjoying spending $250 on a video card every year to keep up with the PC Gaming Jones's ;) : VegasX
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    Thanks to consoles, you don't need to spend to much on a video card to enjoy superior graphics and resoul... : ReckHavoc
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      My $70 Radeon 4850 I picked up a couple years ago can still manage any game out there at 1920x1080.* : ColoradoCNC
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        A Radeon 4850 512MB/1GB mixed with a decently clocked dual/quad core can easily run the latest games at 1... : ReckHavoc
        • Says the front-pager. : Endymion_
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          bullshit, unless Bad Company 2 running @ an average framerate of 30 is acceptable to you. : jodiuh
          • An average framerate of 30 is what you get on the consoles, so I'd at least say that's a minimum to match... : DinK
      • FUcking TRUTH! : jodiuh
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    I have'nt spent $250 on a video card for about 3 years and I can still run everything. And to add to that... : Bill32399
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      Why are we only talking about video cards here? You also need at least 1 Gig of RAM nowadays, costing abo... : Khakimon
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        Ram + video card = price of a console. + free online gaming w/ no fee. the end. : GoldfishInAJarOfPickles
        • Yea but you dont really need to pay $250 on a video card to beat the 360 so you probablly come out even b... : Bill32399
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  Didn't the come out recently and say they were going to increase the quality of the sound that XBL uses? ... : EpicVandal
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    what, enabling a new (probably free for them) codec? : watcherxp
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      @Bill Obviously you didn't read my post, I had just said that you DONT need a $250 card to match or ex... : Khakimon
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        To reiterate for the lazy people who can't read more than a paragraph, my point is as follows. BEGINNI... : Khakimon
        • Yea no one is gonna read all that. Just like you said, most barely get past the first paragraph and you h... : X-Nice
• I wouldn't doubt if this becomes standard. Look at the games price increase from $50 to $60 on console ga... : HyperactiveSlob

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• and consequences will never be the same! : Unkei

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• lol @ consoles : Unkei

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  You paid $50, but now it's suddenly worth $60! What an investment! : Rape.Farm
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    Huh? I believe I said $40. : dengar65
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      Huh? I believe my sarcasm was plain enough. : Rape.Farm
      • Sorry - read it as a reverse sarcasm on my suggesting a Steam Gift. My bad. : dengar65
• You can renew from the dashboard for $40 right now, so you might want to lower that price for it to be wo... : OmegaRed59

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  The only console that has these fees is the 360. You can go any other platform you like and you don't ha... : HisDivineOrder
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    What do you call this then: http://us.playstation.com/psn/playstation-plus/ : dlr(2)
    • an optional service that isn't required to play PS3 games online. : Old_Fart

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  ESPN's expensive, y'all. : HisDivineOrder
  • So is Twitter and Facebook, apparently. : Anastomosis

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• Because saying "We need them Benjamins, yo." is too honest. : Anastomosis

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• But Uno, man. Uno. : Endymion_
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  Haha, 1 vs. 100 made it worth the price of admission, huh? : MaxPete82
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    No but it was the first thing I actually used my gold subcription for. : baron calamity
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      Sooooo, didn't you just agree to what he said? : X-Nice
      • He already had Live, but never used it. Only when 1 vs. 100 came out did he actually have something to s... : Anastomosis

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  "You just stick your credit card in and pay when you want stuff? Way to get ripped off, IDIOT!" : HockeyJohnston
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    I dont follow.... : X-Nice
    • ...it's a bug not a feature that people who want to pay the most convenient way on XBL get a worse deal. : HockeyJohnston
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  If the base price goes up by $10, do you think your $35 deal price will stay the same? : darksied
  • I've seen 12 month cards for $25 before and also $50 MS Point cards for $35. If anything it may go up $5 ... : Sailor of Fortune
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  And if Microsoft stops letting amazon undercut them? What will you do then? You realize its the makers ... : HisDivineOrder
  • Amazon buys the cards at some cost which is a fraction of the MSRP value of the card which is $60. Since ... : adodric
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  Honestly, I do not even play my xbox even more. It RROD'ed on me like 3 months ago and I been too busy en... : X-Nice
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    Choosing a side in the console vs pc war is the dumbest thing a person can do. XBOX + PC || PS3 + PC ... : X-Nice
    • ^^^ This is more or less correct. The consoles do occasionally produce something that's both exclusive a... : Topsiderover
    • Something is wrong w/ the right side of that formula. :D : jodiuh

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• Yeah I'm glad I have the next couple of years paid off already. Thank you $25 year cards! : Zollington
• Yeah, there's always going to be deals to be had. : Fred Garvin
• I've got a little over two years of XBL left and it averages out to $30 a year. : Sailor of Fortune
• Speaking of which.......anyone know of any? : pun][sher
• And here i was thinking that I was the only one who did this. Damn you vocal minority! But yea... stock ... : X-Nice
• No kidding. :/ : BlockheadBrown
• alerts set up @ slickdeals and fatwallet...only thing an xboxer ever really needs : jodiuh

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  This is a terribly misguided and pointless analogy for some unknown ideological bullshit. : Rape.Farm
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    Well, we're living under a terribly misguided and pointless government right now, so it's kind of fitting... : TickHeadDog
    • lol..so because you think the gov't is misguided that gives you leave to be illogical and irrational? Do... : Rape.Farm
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    Actually i thought it was kinda funny... but I'm going with plan B, use my PS3 more. Gran Turismo 5 and B... : phinn
    • Your plan B reveals why you thought it was funny...you're an idiot. : Rape.Farm

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  I have judged this post as informative. : icedcool
  • Fantastic! lol : Thund3rball
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  Sure: http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/109/1093021p1.html And have fun with Friend Codes. : Fred Garvin
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    Plus is already out and is a non-issue for actually playing games online unlike Live : melkore
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      I'd still rather pay for Live than have it scaled back to PSN levels and go free. My multiplayer experien... : Fred Garvin
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        Strangely enough, my free PC multiplayer has been stellar. : Topsiderover
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          Until you try to pay with a buddy that has no idea how to set up a mic or join a game or grab the same ma... : Fred Garvin
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            So are fisher price toys : ShXIII
            • Oh ho ho, that's so humorous. Seriously, you should stop whatever you are doing RIGHT now and take up a c... : Fred Garvin
            • That makes absolutely no sense. : jake
          • I'll admit to some trouble with mics in the past, but I've never had a problem with maps. I'd think the ... : Topsiderover
          • You seem to have some bad info there. With the proliferation of Skype and other VOIP apps on the PC it... : CurbDog
          • I use Vent for all game communication and even none game communication. I get the option of switching fro... : te[R]ror
    • Yea PS+ has been out, and its not mandatory to play games online with friends, watch Netflix or Blurays l... : phinn

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• the only reason i got an xbox was because almost everyone else in my town has one (plus it has halo) but ... : Damann66
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  Please explain how we were getting ripped off? Do tell. : daroach1414
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    He's decided that it isn't worth paying for, so it isn't, and everyone who does is getting ripped off. Si... : Endymion_
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      So glad that what he decided matters. : adodric
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        Just my opinion, go ahead and keep drinking the koolaid for all I care : ShXIII
        • So now everyone that does pay is a stupid mindless lemming? Do you have friends? I'm curious because the ... : VegasX
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    Because you're paying for online matchmaking (not even servers in a lot of cases)? A feature that was fr... : HisDivineOrder
    • couldn't have said it better myself, thanks : ShXIII
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      You are also paying for: 1: Exclusive Content and Downloads 2: Additional Services such as Netflix St... : VegasX
      • 1. The Exclusive Content and Downloads usually costs me extra. It's not included in my XLG sub. 2a. Netf... : SinistarX
• I'm wish you ShXIII, PS3 and PC have completely free online gaming so I will never justify $60/year even ... : phinn

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• Your first mistake was paying for live through automatic renewal. =/ I do hate when companies make can... : adodric
• It's like an automated retention department, only instead of offering perks to try and entice you back, t... : the archvile
• To their credit, though, at least it could be done online and not require a call to 4MYXBOX. But as I ... : SinistarX

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  That's my feeling for the timing as well. : Haxim
  • Yea after reading what I said it may come off as "Kinect means they are charging more" I actually meant t... : SlingBlaze

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• I think you'll soon have the opportunity to pay that too. : Topsiderover

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  Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day. : Fred Garvin
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    Are you seriously equating the Nostradamus of video games to a broken clock? : Haxim
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      Indeed I am sir. : Fred Garvin
      • Pretty sure that's insulting to broken clocks everywhere. : Haxim

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• I have to correct my post. I stated "EA's plan of charging a fee on new games" when it is for "used" game... : AlphaBovine
• If the day is coming when the publishers are going to charge us, too, then how is that an argument for Mi... : HisDivineOrder

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• Or its $10 more per year. You've potentially invested $50 per year for five years so far. That's $250. ... : HisDivineOrder

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  Nooooooo. Don't herd these front bitch and moan dwellers to the real shack. :( : adodric
  • ^^this Delete parent thread before it's to late : watcherxp
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    We're all shackers at the end of the day. The more that the front page crowd can pick up from the Latest ... : geedeck
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      I thought you were smarter than this. : adodric
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        http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23855486#itemanchor_23855486 : geedeck
        • I worry more about the opposite result. haha. : adodric

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• People think that since the console costs $200, they're getting a deal. Until they paid $130 for the har... : HisDivineOrder