Morning Discussion

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• joining! : Nitrium
• join'ed : LoioshDwaggie
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  public groups are kinda iffy. needs to be shackers invite only. : Hoax
  • I'll switch to invite only after the initial rush. : Brian Leahy
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    its needs to be fox only no items FINAL DESTINATION. : squigiliwams
    • Haha, fucking smash fanatics. : Brian Leahy
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  Also: Come sit in chat with us. : LoioshDwaggie
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    wouldnt irc be the place to do stuff like this? we used to play quake/quakeworld exclusively over the irc... : Hoax
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      Why the hell does it matter if they use IRC or the Steam client to have a chat room? There's multiple gro... : ArcKnight
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        don't bleed out on me. beside being sarcastic, irc offers shitload more options last time i checked and y... : Hoax
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          There is a shack IRC, but most of the people here arn't there. : LoioshDwaggie
          • yeah i know, just throwing it out as an option to revive the shack channel and use it as a idle base for ... : Hoax
      • because I can run a lightweight irc client on a lot of platforms that can't handle steam : NexusOne
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      IRC is so 90's, Steam chat is where it's at in the NAUGHTIES. : daedraug
      • well, can we go back to IRC since its no longer the naughties? its the 20-teens! : NexusOne
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      It would be if normal people still used IRC : derelict515
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        what do normal people use these days? i haven't been involved into the gaming scene since quake3. playing... : Hoax
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          Doesn't Steam have a built in browser now? No need to alt tab. Although I've had no trouble alt tabbing i... : derelict515
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            It does, they also got rid of that pos ie6 back end and use webkit now which improved steam by 3984974,32... : Hoax
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              I've seriously never seen Steam crash on an alt-tab. And my computer is hardly without issues. : derelict515
              • http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2008/05/12/a-lamention-for-alt-tab/ for example : Hoax
• Good idea! : midgetherder
• Joined, now I just need a day where I'm not working so I can play the damn game :/ : Serpico74
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  will join tonight : maulla
  • Same, will join tonight. : umcpwintermute
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  Snazzy. Prolly won't ever get to use it, but I'll pretend that I want to play with others online! : breadsticks
  • This is like all Steam groups for me until I remember months later that I joined them. Then I leave the g... : Talonus.
• Nice. This will be handy for setting up games. : limpossible
• Joined! Thanks for setting up the group. : taronish
• Joined. Ladon under steam and in SC2. : cetra00
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  Shack Starcraft 2 Usernames Add Username Here: http://goo.gl/X1B0 Username List: http://goo.gl/NMyl (S... : GoldfishInAJarOfPickles
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    Dumb question, where do you get your identifier? : nevlos
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      It's on the Add Friend dialog. : omnova
      • Ty sir! : nevlos
      • Also, does adding friends from Facebook post a notification on your wall? I just want to find other close... : nevlos
    • go to battlenet web page, login, hover over your character portrait. : BongSlayerB
    • In-game, hover your mouse over your portrait I know, it's totally obscure and obvious simultaneously : geedeck
  • ^^^ post this in the announcements or group comments please : Nitrium
• awwww yeah, joined! : BongSlayerB
• Joined. : The Grolar Bear
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  can we get groups for other RTS games as well? : RikiTiki2
  • what other RTS games? : Brian Leahy
  • No, your game of choice sucks! : LoioshDwaggie
  • Huh? : Serpico74
  • I'm sure it'll be a while until SC III comes out : awaypaster
• will join when I get home : Old_Fart
• is it possible to get an invite? how? tia :) : diskape

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• More Cool Stuff! - (old news) Powered mine carts getting a fix + speed control slider! http://twitter : Dong Patrol
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  Incredibly Useful Links! - Beginner’s Guides to Minecraft, originally linked by at0micgarden! : Dong Patrol
  • Some more in the Things I Wish I'd Known category: How stairs work. http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=... : Arcanum
  • Oh shit! F11 is going to own me now. THANKS A LOT! >:( :D : zuff
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    Beginner's Video Tutorial]* - How to Survive Your Fist Night: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VWnQHS-ffs : zuff
    • sigh... that's my first shacktag fail ever I believe :( : zuff
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      I don't know if that's a brilliant pun or an unfortunate typo. : Creepin_Jeezus
      • oh fuck! that post was full of failure : zuff
    • Dont stop PUMPING! : supermonkeyballz
    • Hot fist night! : DM7
• Creative Multiplayer Server! Full of cock and sprites, run by MercFox1! http://www.minecraft.net/play.js : Dong Patrol
• The minecart accelerators are pretty hilarious. Destroying the laws of physics and breaking the universe ... : Rehevkor
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  I love this game. : justwr!ght
  • ^^^ IAWTILTG : Rehevkor
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  Is there a way to change your respawn point? : Ebu
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    There's a hack method to do it here: http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=14739&p=395257&hi... : Rehevkor
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      I'd love it if there was some kind of incredibly difficult but possible way to do this in-game. Like cra... : Rotten Deadite
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        I don't think it should be hard, just craft a non-movable bed out of wood and cloth. Maybe he could make ... : Zek
        • This is a great idea, Rotten's was too. If you craft a bed (which can be a new object, much like the book... : zuff
  • Not in survival mode, aside from editing your location with an editor. It seems like it changes your spaw... : at0micgarden
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    I really really hope he adds this in a Friday update soon, it's critical for multiplayer to work. : Zek
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      Repose from wd.. Check out this cavern... all in one shot, we have diamonds, iron, coal, gold, bloodstone... : at0micgarden
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        You lucky sack of shit. : Rotten Deadite
        • Don't worry, at0mic will just fall in the lava after he mine's all that anyways :P : zuff
      • damn.jpg indeed! Nice find, you lucky sack of shit! : Dong Patrol
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  I am now dreaming in Minecraft world. Last night I was dreaming about fucking BLOCKS OF OBSIDIAN. God dam... : JohnnyRey
  • I wish I could build pickaxes out of obsidian. My cup overfloweth with obsidian. : Rotten Deadite
  • I was looking at a tile floor this morning and wondering if those tiles were actually square blocks if I ... : at0micgarden
  • I am generally thinking in terms of minecraft - and then translating them to the real world. : lukej1337
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  ATTN: MINE-ORE-ITIES With Survival Multiplayer coming very, very soon, we need to start figuring out l : MercFox1
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    I think it would be good for each player to establish a spot as their "home" and have a separate village/... : Rehevkor
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      i'd like to see a nice town setup around the spawn point(assuming the spawning will work like single play... : ass-street
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        First thing we're doing is setting up a capital city at the spawn point. : MercFox1
        • sounds good to me. : ass-street
        • I will query for blocks a space away and we will mine cart them back to town to build with. : unjustend
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          I suggest we build in all three dimensions, please? I'd like to have some sky bridges and such. Also a ... : Rotten Deadite
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            Building that massive sky bridge was hard enough work in creative! I'm going to die so much if you want o... : Creepin_Jeezus
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              I built a skybridge in my world too... how many times did you fall to your death =( That shit is da... : wangel
              • I built several but I only fell on one of them, which I was building over a massive surface-to-bedrock pi... : Rotten Deadite
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                I've not got one of a substantial size in my own creative game, but the entire glass walkway on the shack... : Creepin_Jeezus
                • my own creative survival game : Creepin_Jeezus
                • what shack server?! : wangel
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                  Truly amazing work. Good thing glass is so easy to make in Survival, you might need to recreate this in o... : at0micgarden
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                    Well, if you like that, take a look at this bitch! Menzies who like big, pointless buildings! Here are : Creepin_Jeezus
                    • When finished, my castle is going to dwarf any shit seen on the shack to date!!! : at0micgarden
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                Channel some water under the construction zone, if it's 2 blocks deep it will keep you alive : Code RedBeard
                • ^^^^^THIS Or maybe Notch will implement crouching sometime this week? yeaaah probably not : Zollington
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            I already have plans for an elevated rail/redstone system. If need be, I can step in and do the construct... : MercFox1
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              Does anyone have an idea of how the infinite terrain is going to work in SMP? Are we all going to have ou... : at0micgarden
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                I want to know how big the map limitation on the server is going to be, I keep hearing about game ending ... : Creepin_Jeezus
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                  A 100MB world is enough. Trust me. : Zollington
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                    Perhaps, but wont at least a few people be tempted to just explore for the sake of it? : Creepin_Jeezus
                    • Ya, hopefully someone doesn't grief the server by going to far and causing a crash :| : loboca
  • i think a PvP night would be fun. I'd be into everyone sticking together...at least until we have a nice ... : ass-street
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    I'd like to volunteer to run a bar where people can come to after a hard day's worth of mining. Trades ca... : zuff
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      That would be a neat trick since Redstone torches don't give off light! : Dong Patrol
      • they do, just very low but red light. Perfect for bars. : zuff
      • They do, just not nearly as much. Or so says the Wiki. : Arcanum
    • Here's a mockup I did in QBlock with the tavern in low detail and cut in half to show the inside better. ... : zuff
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    Regarding the doling out/ assigning of jobs and setting of rules, maybe we (read: you and whoever you dec... : Dong Patrol
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      Well I don't want to manage down to that resolution because then it would be Civ 4 Blocks Edition. What I... : MercFox1
      • Oh no, I got that! I'm all for people eventually settling in to routines and roles, I meant that maybe yo : Dong Patrol
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      yeah, this is probably a good plan. i am definitely into the idea of adventuring on my own and hiding my ... : ass-street
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        Speaking of plans we already have plans for you: http://ui.thoughtbot.com/assets/2009-4-22-viking_funeral... : zuff
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          He's going to buy you a boat : Dong Patrol
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            Yes...that's what I plan to do. Come on, Ass Street, please take a nap in this boat. : zuff
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              How are you going to seduce him when you can't even spell his username right? ass-street, can you believe... : Dong Patrol
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                seriously :P : ass-street
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                  Well as I was adding "IS GAY" to his name in the creative server it was spelled azz-st. so I figured I co... : zuff
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                    I added "sux" to 'Zuff" ;) My buddy also added a bad ass AT-AT by the pacman ghosts. : at0micgarden
                    • yeah that's a pretty ballin AT-AT, it even shoots lasers. : MercFox1
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                      Oh man I must see the AT-AT. I'm surprised there was room to put sux next to my name. Did you remove t... : zuff
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                        No, I just had to do some very minor reconfiguring of the adjacent staircase. : at0micgarden
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                          Did you see my sweet double rainbow across from my name? Oh and ass-streets name is right above mine w... : zuff
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                            grrrr my diamond sword will destroy you!! : ass-street
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                              :D Who would kill a lonely barkeep? : zuff
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                                not me! i'll just a lonely wanderer. : ass-street
                                • i'll i'm : ass-street
                                • I'm keeping an eye on you, and hands off the women unless I see some coin.. : zuff
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                            Yes, it IS sweet. And surprisingly it withstood the massive griefing and level flooding that took place o... : at0micgarden
                            • Everytime I see this stuff it's like a gaudy eye strain. Same with the shit SA does. Gimme survival. : kingdepork
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                              Haha I love how it raises to avoid the stairs lol : zuff
                              • And you can totally see the shadow from ass-streets sign in the sky. Get a screen of that too :) : zuff
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    Has it been discussed how / if MP will store items players currently have in their inventory? pvp night m... : Creepin_Jeezus
    • Worst case scenario is someone goes out collects materials and fill crates with weapons. Anyone who logs... : kingdepork
    • Making a weapon takes like 4 seconds man : JohnnyRey
    • Inventory is store server side so when you join you should have your weapons from previous games. : zuff
  • I would love to go into mines and gather ores for building stuff. : kaankasim
  • I get all tingly just thinking about it. It sucks there will be no mobs at first, but at least this will ... : at0micgarden
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    Here's a good cartograph of someone's city. Good inspiration to get ours started: http://dl.dropbox.com/... : zuff
    • The Shackcity will look like that but with more cocks and planes flying into buildings. : Dong Patrol
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      His little roads are cool, but I wonder what those dots on each side of the road are? Probably torches... : Rotten Deadite
      • Can't have Creepers spawning on our highways. : Dong Patrol
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    For Voice chat we should all donate into a mumble server: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMfF36NvoJc : zuff
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      He didn't connect to the same servers, i have doubts about this test. : kaankasim
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        Never mind the video, then. If your primary concern is latency, Mumble is the best voice program around. : Felraiser
        • I don't think a minecraft voice chat server would be overly concerned with latency. : Haxim
    • It's super easy and free to set up a Teamspeak 3 server. If anyone has an extra PC they could just leave ... : at0micgarden
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    I think the spawn island should be dedicated to community projects and no mining whatsoever is allowed. I... : Zek
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      From the sounds of it, the whole pawn area is going to be covered in Capital Shack City within 3 days, so... : Dong Patrol
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        Yeah but people will mine everything out in order to build that. I think it would be better for that land... : Zek
        • This is exactly why I think we need a dedicated quarry as well. : unjustend
        • Have everyone head across the water to an island and designate it. People will strip mine the fuck out o... : kingdepork
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    Are we using diamonds/gold as currency or just straight barter system? : Dunwich
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      Sword fight in the Imperial Arena. : Dong Patrol
      • I better start crafting a bunch of "Single Leather Gloves" to slap people in the face and challenge them ... : Dunwich
      • To take part in the sword fight you can only have your armor, your sword, and your currency (gold or what... : Gary the Llama
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    My primary concern is how to deal with griefing or excess douchebaggery like claiming all the land you ca... : Hemtroll
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      It's minecraft. I can't imagine saying "I want this randomly generated land, GET OFF MY LAND!!!" Who re... : kingdepork
      • If it makes you feel any better we can change the password every day and announce it in the chatty. : Rotten Deadite
      • Notch said he's going to add land claim flags that only let the person who placed them build or mine with... : Hemtroll
  • We should break the wold into quadrants. Have one quadrant set aside for art projects, one for common ... : TroZ
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    I was just thinking, if we set up player housing / mining facility outpost on higher terrain we can build... : Dunwich
    • This is a brilliant idea! : zuff
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      That's assuming anybody is hanging around to pick up your stuff, you would probably want to just deliver ... : Zek
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        Believe me, someeone would love to have that job. : zuff
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          We need to find that OCD player who can run a bank/warehouse. Collect materials for communal use, maybe e : Dunwich
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            Reality: "Hay guys check out my castle!" "Hay guys check out what i build...LOLOLOLOLOL. Lets try to bl... : kingdepork
            • This is what worries me! : Dong Patrol
            • Right, this is just hypothetical "perfect world" conditions : Dunwich
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            Pictures - Mocked up this idea during lunch http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=mcb1_e3icoq4jzjpum8... : Dunwich
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              I like the idea of a sewer system, but not really for long distance materials transport; your bank idea i... : MercFox1
              • Thanks! For the sewer thing that might work better for short distance community housing projects. Might n... : Dunwich
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              whats the recipe for artwork? i tried a stone in the middle surrounded by sticks, but it wouldn't give m... : harold.johnson
              • It's cloth surrounded by sticks I believe : Dunwich
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              What the fuck, how long is your lunch break? : Dong Patrol
              • An hour, I just used INVedit to get the materials on a virgin world. So I didnt actually MINE everything. : Dunwich
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              woah, how do you make big chests? just craft two chests together? : mikecyb
              • Just put twp chests side by side, no crafting necessary. : kaankasim
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      Good idea, but how long can water travel on a level plane without loosing momentum? : Rotten Deadite
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        Not very far, and the dropped items don't last very long before evaporating. : Arcanum
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          Ah, I never timed it. Just assumed it would last like mob loot dispensers I've seen : Dunwich
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            Still feasible if we drop the elevation every, I dunno, five blocks. You could even build all the buildi... : Rotten Deadite
            • We'd have a very Roman canals thing going on above the land, I really dig this idea : Dunwich
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      nah just build a lava pit in the middle of town : mikecyb
      • We can't solve every problem by setting it on fire Mike! Just most of them. : Dunwich
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    So are there any significant changes in game mechanics from single to multi? Any of you made it onto the... : dirtboxer
    • I'm assuming it's just survival only there are other dudes. Only thing I'm not sure about is whether pl... : kingdepork
  • Backups prolly a good idea since you know I'm gonna have to play with tnt, probably at your base too. : dnagenome
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    will players be able to peek in chests that other players make? or alternatively destroy chests others m... : mikecyb
    • a system is being made to flag small areas of blocks to avoid that. : harold.johnson
  • all i request is mine carts everywhere so i dont have to walk. and my own home...or maybe id settle for a... : Chandler55
  • does the multiplayer actually have a sort of job system or is this just you guys being RP nerds? I agr... : cfalcon
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  I read there are "continents" that can get spawned in this game. Has anybody seen one? I only have huge i... : at0micgarden
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    http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=map5normalnight_i6ytfox68mc1i0buicas.png My continent. : MercFox1
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      Holy shit that's huge! Any plans to follow the coast and see when it loops back around? : Dong Patrol
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        I think I will start to just explore the map. I haven't been up near that natural lava flow yet, and I ki... : MercFox1
        • You're going to fall in it, you know. : Dong Patrol
    • Holy Jesus. Yep, that's what I'm talking about. : at0micgarden
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      That's awesome! How do you extract that overhead image of your map? : Leviathan41
      • www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=13134 Program called Cartographer, there are several modes... : MercFox1
  • A continent is just a really big island, there's nothing special about it. Just random chance how big the... : Zek
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    http://www.shackpics.com/files/map1obliqueday_l9pjy4is90a0c7te7h25.png : hirosushima
    • sorry the red box is where I have been mining and building, I have probably dropped 20 hours over the wee... : hirosushima
  • There are definitely extremely large islands... http://h.imagehost.org/secure/0329/map3-normal-day.png : Zollington
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  So, I tried watching that Brocraft shit, and I got dumber.... Whoever was streaming ught.... I dunno. ... : wangel
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    When we get the shack server up, would love to watch it while I'm at work. : loboca
    • So yes, someone needs to stream :p : loboca
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  SON OF A BITCH I went mine exploring after I pretty much tapped out the last mine of diamonds. I start : manero
  • It will be probably be gone when you get there. : kingdepork
  • Welcome to Minecraft, you're in for a hell of a ride. : Dong Patrol
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    It will be gone, forget those things ever existed :( : daedraug
    • Not necessarily, I don't see how you fell 20 feet and survived through.....easy mode? : at0micgarden
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  I should upload the latest version of my world. I build a 'switching room'. So far it has two switches... : TroZ
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    track switching by redstone sounds awesome. is it simple? : Draugluin
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      Yup, takes just some red wire, a block and a switch. : loboca
      • I'll try and get a screen shot of mine tonight. : loboca
    • If you know how to make a switch track (a switch (stick on top of stone) of the 4th side of T shaped trac... : TroZ
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  FUUU I was jumping up a mountainside and I got stuck in the air. I'm basically vibrating. Can I fix this? : MrBig0
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    Just save and quit then resume. : kaankasim
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      now i'm stuck inside a pig :( i cant move still, but at least I'm not vibrating : MrBig0
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        http://www.shackpics.com/files/ScreenShot011_22mql7yr3cb37tpcj0wl.jpg : MrBig0
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          What a pig u are to spawn inside her like that. : Rotten Deadite
          • ME MAD OINK OINK : Dong Patrol
        • This is the best Minecraft image I've ever seen. : Dong Patrol
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          kill the pig. also wtf when does it snow?! I want snow :( : mikecyb
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            There is a random chance of snowing when you create a new world or you can use MineEdit and start snow i... : kaankasim
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              oh, so basically if it's not snowing when you start a new world then it never will (unless you edit the s... : mikecyb
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                Yeah, Notch has plans to make a weather system but who knows when. Also keep in mind that snowing never s... : kaankasim
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                  yea it makes it a bit hard to see sometimes, i might start a new game anyway : MrBig0
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                    there's should be a snow line or something so when you are a certain ways north it's just always snowing ... : mikecyb
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                      That would be cool. It's also kind of annoying, if you aim at the snow on top of the block, it takes a co... : MrBig0
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                        BUT, there's a really long vertical shaft into a cave and it looks so awesome with the light and the snow... : MrBig0
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                          Try killing yourself with MineEdit. : kaankasim
                          • or he could just wait until night time and a creeper will gladly do it for him : mikecyb
          • nah, turns out the pig was inside me and i am still stuck : MrBig0
      • Why don't you vibrate some more? I'm sure the pig would appreciate it. : Hemtroll
  • MineEdit. It will let you tweak your spawn coordinates. : at0micgarden
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    I have an area on my current strip mine where I get stuck all the time. Not sure how big it is, but it's... : unjustend
    • Changing the fog distance seems to help...try it out. : JohnnyRey
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  I accidentally left the game running at work all weekend, I was standing in the collection point of a mob... : Code RedBeard
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    So you're going to be a baker, is what you're saying. : Dong Patrol
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      What can you do with eggs? : bling1bling
      • Nothing yet, but a function for eggs will be added eventually : Dong Patrol
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    what do you do with eggs? : mikecyb
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      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23621393#itemanchor_23621393 : Dong Patrol
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        I hope they also make milk do something. I have a bucket filled with it that's useless! I should really... : mikecyb
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          That's.... not milk =( : Clasifyd
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            wtf that cow said it was a girl cow :( : mikecyb
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              did it also say it was 18? : Hemtroll
              • if they throw me in jail I will just tunnel out when nobody is looking! : mikecyb
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              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DsN36mz_PA : zakk
              • wow, Kingpin stole a joke from City Slickers 2? that's embarassing : mikecyb
            • GloriousCow : LoioshDwaggie
  • LOL! : lukej1337
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  I can't play this game maximized. I get seasick. Is there a way to change the FOV? : Rotten Deadite
  • you can turn view bob off in the options. or f5 to go third person : harold.johnson
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    Pansy : unjustend
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      I'd kick your ass if I wasn't so nauseous. : Rotten Deadite
      • I'd piss moan and rant more but I can't find my inhaler. : unjustend
  • I run it in a window, but resize it so it is much wider than tall. there seem to be certain UI resolution... : manero
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  Nothing special, but here's what I'm working on. This is my "base" camp at the base of the mountain. ... : wangel
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    Very cool. To stop monsters, place torches. : loboca
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      I'm not totally sure that's a bulletproof rule. I've come back to my home base that I'm almost 100% cert : Rotten Deadite
      • yeah torches prevent them from spawning but they can still go into places lit by torchlight. you should ... : mikecyb
    • I am in the process of ERECTING an IMMENSE castle. I am about 16 blocks from cloud level for the external... : at0micgarden
  • That's cool. I think I was dealt a shitty spawn point or a weird world, I don't have these huge landmasse... : at0micgarden
  • EPIC! : lukej1337
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  Anyone know if we can use SP maps as our MP maps once it goes live? I want to share my awesome world. : graincloud
  • Think it's as simple as renaming/moving dirs around, but obviously can't confirm yet. Sorry for spam! : graincloud
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  I started work on the Brothel/Tavern in a new Minecraft world just so I can know what to expect in Shackt : zuff
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    Are those books in a brothel? Or just wallpaper with books on it? : Dunwich
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      The books are the closest thing I could get to alcohol on a wall :( I did just find out how to make ch... : zuff
      • Neat! : Rotten Deadite
      • Just messing with you, the chairs are cool though! : Dunwich
  • I've been building a skyscrapper out in the middle of a bay, I laid a cofferdam and have the main stairwe... : pwnjoo
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    Your wood building will burn to the ground almost instantly. : Code RedBeard
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      Who's going to burn down a tavern? I mean really. : zuff
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        ...i would :( : dedgecko
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          Free drinks if you don't set fire to my humble abode! : zuff
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            okay but if I order the lava and accidentally spill it, that's totally not my fault. you should have bui... : mikecyb
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              • by floors I meant walls. and by spill I mean throw. actually I wouldn't do that :( : mikecyb
              • has their ever been a discussion regarding gravity affecting other elements? : dedgecko
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              ...some people just want to see the world burn. : dedgecko
              • I think I'll play with this idea later this week. I made a huge pyre of wood atop one of my towers and... : dedgecko
      • ass-street would : supermonkeyballz
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  Fuck this game! I have exams to study for! : ConsFEARacy
  • You have shackmeets to miss, faggot >:( : Dschinghis Khan
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  goofy little video of what i made yesterday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqmmEHQz_lM&fmt=22 now i'm... : harold.johnson
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    my time has been spent elsewhere - but do Signs stack? A huge turn off was doing some mine exploration a... : dedgecko
    • Nope : at0micgarden
• Shacknews Minecraft Steam Group! Shackminers: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/ShackMiners Look's l... : zuff
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  Capital City Discussion Ive been thinking a ton about when MP comes out. I know we have already decid... : conandan
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    take a bunch of screenies and give us a walkthrough of it. We're going to need some significant space, th... : MercFox1
    • Almost finished (Only one more tower, got to add some torches, and finish the spikes on the outside wall.... : conandan
  • Oh god when multiplayer comes out I am going to get completely obsessed with it : OverloadUT
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    I think the multiplayer server, after a weekend, will look like the surface of Coruscant. I claim the und... : Dunwich
    • I guess that's the best part of infinite maps...There will be untouched land...somewere : Kylegar
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    I finish my minetrack to my castle to my mine. Its fucking boss hog, I just load up all my stone in a co... : conandan
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      Yep if you create a fork, the forked piece can be toggled by sending a redstone signal to it. : OverloadUT
      • oh god, hot : conandan
  • I was desperately searching for an awesome cave in my current world and I eventually found one since I he... : mikecyb
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  Is there a way I can play this game for free? After watching a couple videos I'm finally intrigued but I... : sKetchflow
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    1. Just buy it. 2. You can play creative mode for free which will at least let you get a feel for the "p... : OverloadUT
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      what is survival mode? The creatures coming out of the wooodwork to destroy you at night mode? : sKetchflow
      • That and pretty much all the other proper gameplay is in Survival mode. Creative mode is just picking the... : Zek
      • it's that plus all of the crafting : dedgecko
      • Creative mode is Lego, Survival mode is Lego except you have to make all the Lego yourself, you can never... : Hemtroll
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    • Actually it goes out of alpha when he adds mobs to SMP. I think he said that should happen around the 30t... : Zollington
    • If you heard that from me I feel it's only fair to warn you that I may have been completely wrong about w... : Dong Patrol
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  If the graphics were better I would try it but wow the screenshots on my huge monitor looks terrible. :( ... : DM7
  • gameplay > graphics : dedgecko
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    Shaddup and buy it, dirty allied scum. : loboca
    • Allied scum?! I'm horde, lobo slo. ;D : DM7
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    The game seems to turn a lot of people away based on screenshots, but one common thing that I've heard is... : Dong Patrol
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      I think the style is a big part of the draw. I can't quite put it into words but the way it's simplified... : mikecyb
      • I agree with you, it's just that I've found opening with that argument often has the opposite effect from... : Dong Patrol
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        • Have you tried one of the hi-rez texture packs? : Haxim
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      After watching videos of it, there are very few screens I've seen that do it justice. It just doesn't tr... : sKetchflow
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        Be right back, I have something for you that you will enjoy. : Dong Patrol
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          3D Dot Game Heroes texture pack for Minecraft! http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=9613 ... : Dong Patrol
          • You're a hero, gentleman and scholar. : sKetchflow
  • It's got a very retro 8-bit vibe going and if he changed that, I can only see it being worse. It works v... : indosauros
  • You can always download the hi-res texture pack - http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=1821... : Shadowdane
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  So what is the most effect use of diamond? I'm up to 14 ore, 1 pick 1 sword. I use to just use them to... : unjustend
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    I always create a sword first, after that I just stockpile them. : stonedonkey
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      I'm trying to figure out what I should be stock piling them for.. I might make a diamond shovel. : unjustend
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        Diamond shovel is awesome because of how long it lasts. : OverloadUT
        • Well I'm about to make a long strip mine to the sea. For some reason half of my starting area will rende... : unjustend
      • It won't last half as long as you'd expect :( : zuff
      • Also make a jukebox : OverloadUT
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        To be honest keep them for swords. : Zollington
        • Diamond swords are amazing. : unjustend
      • Wicked awesome armor? : Rotten Deadite
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  What is this thing?! http://www.shackpics.com/files/Thing_9pwbjzjdqsjuhbsbjtym.jpg It seems to be s... : NastyJack
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    that's a spawner! if you kill the stuff it spawns you will get super rare items!!! : mikecyb
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      http://www.minecraftwiki.net/wiki/Mob_Spawner mikecyb's body is actually half bullshit, so you'll have t... : Dong Patrol
      • oh sorry the chests have the loot :( : mikecyb

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• bump for job hunting goodness! : action roommate
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  I almost have something I can put on my resume for web dev! Am I hired? : omnova
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    You don't want to be a PHP dev - don't waste my time, son! : action roommate
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      action roommate i haven't done any work since 3 years ago when you used to help me would i qualify i coul... : kgargs
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        no and no : action roommate
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          I used to do PHP development. Was the first "no" because of how long it's been since he last did any wor... : Odoyle
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            Got a resume? : action roommate
            • Shackmessage me your email address and I'll send one to you. : Odoyle
• If you're looking to contract out a Canadian, let me know! : Anti_dentite
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  I can strtolower the shit out of things. I don't live in Dallas but my PHP eliteness is so crazy that you... : sKetchflow
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    Ok! lol no : action roommate
    • please? : sKetchflow
• afternoon bump : action roommate
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  We're still passively looking for a PHP dev in the Portland, OR area too. : MisterPhoton
  • More info: Looking for a mid to high level PHP developer with experience working on a team (this is ke... : MisterPhoton
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  non-retarded mid (or higher) level PHP developers seem to be really difficult to find, though I can proba... : mikecyb
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    At this point, it's really more of a frustration of finding mid-level or higher web developers. Someon... : action roommate
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      Those topics seem well below mid-high level web developers. :( : mwasher
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        ouch. I had a job interview last week where I got grilled on problem solving and computer science topi... : manero
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          for front end web development, no i don't think any of this would be that necessary. but if you are call... : mwasher
          • I dunno. Where do you draw the line on front-end development? I would expect front-end developers to be a... : manero
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            You could have spent the last 15 years writing Windows services, drivers, on mainframes, etc and never to... : ThomW
            • we're talking about a *web* developer here... : mwasher
      • I know! And we can't even get interviewees past that stage of questioning =( : action roommate
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        seriously. When someone says mid-high level PHP dev, I expect they'd be looking for someone with 3-5 (if : MisterPhoton
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          Newp. You'd be amazed at the gaping holes people have in their knowledge about the stuff they're actuall : action roommate
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            do your job listings say "we need a PHP developer" or "we need a software engineer" ? maybe you're sho... : manero
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              We've had all types. Old hat C++ guys, Java School kids, designers cum web developers, etc. Mind you,... : action roommate
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                shitty. how long do you usually spend on these interviews apiece? : manero
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                  60-90 minutes, but I usually know inside of 10 if they're gonna be a good candidate or not. : action roommate
                  • yikes. one place I interviewed at, the CTO gave me a quick technical grilling. something like that should... : manero
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            lol wow. : sKetchflow
            • Wanna hear more? Based on your eperience with other languages, what OOP features do you wish PHP had? : action roommate
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            lol I bet you'd kill for an interviewee to mention idempotence : MisterPhoton
            • I'd probably give em a hug on the spot. : action roommate
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            man where is the data in the post request? it's in the headers I guess but I never really thought about ... : mikecyb
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              it's not in the headers. it's in the HTTP request body!!! : electroly
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                it's weird I am reading over the HTTP spec and I know a lot of it but there are also a lot of things here... : mikecyb
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                  kids today don't read RFCs any more but still expect to get hired as web developers. it's sad :( : electroly
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                    personally i would never consider a web developer to be competent unless they've written a simple web ser : electroly
                    • ^^I agree with you due to the fact that accomplishing that touches how HTTP works on many layers, if not ... : askedrelic
                  • seriously, RFCs are awesome : askedrelic
              • ^this. http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/forms/methods.html : sKetchflow
  • (it's because PHP drove them retarded) : Zek
• I don't like my Java job. Get me a work visa and pay me six figures. Too much? : Afterglow
• i would apply but i'm legally banned from living in the same state as mwasher : electroly
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  I might be interested if you can relent on the 'living in or near Dallas' requirement. : DianeOfTheMoon
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    Local applicants only, I'm afraid. Not my requirement. : action roommate
    • Your company won't have to pay for my relocation! : Odoyle
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  i bet you guys would have a much easier time finding qualified applicants if it weren't for that Dallas l... : electroly
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    Yeah, but offering telecommuting is a slippery slope. And no company the size of mine wants to deal with... : action roommate
    • That seems strange. My company is ridiculously large and has a lot of telecommuters. : Halen
• my friend Odoyle is a php GOD : wtf242
• I've installed dozens of PHP web apps like phpBB, Joomla and WordPress. You should totally hire me! : glio1337
• hire ThomW, let him work remotely : Clay
• I am not a web developer, but I used to do a lot of gross php4, and last week I started using stripes to ... : kaddar0

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  heheheh http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23618041#itemanchor_23618041 : justwr!ght
  • Oh thank fuck. I was really nervous that it actually would be a dream, in which case I would have to fin... : passingstranger
• A lot is an understatement. : Nerdsbeware
• Yes. This has been discussed. A lot. : pigvomit
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  I'm not so sure that we're looking at reality. The description of the totem Cobb uses is that you never : Rotten Deadite
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    I think it's better that Nolan is still leaving it open. I hate how Ridley Scott flat out said that Deck : pigvomit
    • Deckard... : pigvomit
  • now go watch Repo Men and think about the cat in the box. : hirez
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    The top spins flawlessly every time it's in a dream. It never wobbles and makes the "oh god, this is abo... : passingstranger
    • every time he's in someone ELSE'S dream it spins flawlessly. : Arctic Fox
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  I'm in the he's in reality at the end of the movie camp. That being said, my one big question is how a... : MagicWishMonkey
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    how are you in that camp when something like what the OP just mentioned is said? Just a really big coinc : kgargs
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      Because they are older and wearing different clothes in the last shot? : MagicWishMonkey
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        oh so the OP is wrong? They weren't wearing the same clothes? : kgargs
        • I couldn't remember but people in this thread have verified that they weren't the same : MagicWishMonkey
    • he was talking about Mal and Cobb being older, not the kids : MrBig0
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    i think i read an explanation of that somewhere, but i forget where :( : FrayLo
    • I assumed it was a symbolic thing but I was curious to see if there was a better explanation. : MagicWishMonkey
  • was done because that's how ariadne perceived it, since he left out the fact that they grew old together ... : devnullgt
  • I think cobb was trying to convince mall to let him go because they were in lembo he could make that up : bigcatroar
  • that's my interpretation as well : eeeealmo
  • Thought it was pretty simple unless I really missed something! they were young again because that was the : alfonso the death raptor
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  For point 2...yes you are mistaken i made special care to mentally note the kid's clothing on my second v : devnullgt
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    Plus kids wear the same clothes all the time, hell, so do I. I don't think you should read into it TOO mu... : orgcaptainnemo
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      Kids that age outgrow their clothes in about 2-3 months : riptyde
      • when they're babies. not when they're toddlers or 5-6 years old. : edgewise
  • yup, I just watched it a second time this weekend. you are correct the clothes are not the same : NexusOne
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  it was clearly left ambiguous so the viewer could decide for themselves what happened : eeeealmo
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    No! The kids were in slightly different postures!! The girl clearly sounded older on the phone earlier in... : haiku
    • obviously it was meant to be a puzzle you could easily solve, therefore allowing you to dismiss the entir... : dirge23
    • wait alter-ego? what is going on here? : eeeealmo
    • So what do you really think about the ending? : Dong Patrol
    • Einhorn is Finkle! Finkle is Einhorn! : .frame
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      You have to play the soundtrack backwards on your record player to hear the *real* ending. : MagicWishMonkey
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        wat the hell you meen! : bigcatroar
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          Turns out they were dead the whole time. : MagicWishMonkey
          • If you watch Inception backwards it's a movie about a bunch of insomniacs on a plane. : Rotten Deadite
          • o damn got it : bigcatroar
    • really the whole thing is a construct within Sid 6.7's VR. : Downforce
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    Hurley and Ben are left to run the island after Jack dies. : liqker
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      ^^ Lost ending spoilers : aggressor
      • No, this is my actual life spoilers. : liqker
    • ahh god, i hate this. it's the equivalent of that guy in Dragon Age who tries to sell you a DLC quest in ... : dirge23
  • Yup. Inception. If you think it was your idea to begin with... : twifosp
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  Well, one point people forget a LOT for these analyses is that the totem only protects you from being in : AlexW1203
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    What is the point of the story then. I hate this sort of analysis. Cobb's character becomes a big waste : Toth21
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      kind of reminds me how in Aliens Ripley does all this shit to save Newt and then in the beginning of Alie... : dirge23
      • Don't even get me started on that. Taking some of the most likable hollywood action characters ever made ... : Toth21
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      Well, that's not what I meant. I meant that at the end, and only at the end, he's trapped in his dream. M : AlexW1203
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        Why even have him look for Saito then. It makes everything so pointless. Please, I am asking you... ste... : Toth21
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          Actually, I felt it was unnecessary, myself. It's a common gimmick, and I felt the shot in particular was... : AlexW1203
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            Fair enough, its quite possible it was intended. I just really hope its not. : Toth21
            • I think he's still in Kenya, so drugged out that he went into limbo. : lightsam
  • I agree with this point of view and it's what I ascertained from the movie. : 5150Joker
  • lol : Halen
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  Apparently you can tell when Cobb's is dreaming or not because he is wearing a wedding ring in his dreams : theydobecauseitis
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    sheeit, that isn't reality, it's a story that he's telling inside a dream : dirge23
    • ha sure... : theydobecauseitis
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    Does he have it in the last scene? : passingstranger
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      Nope he doesn't. : theydobecauseitis
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        I was looking for it and I never saw his ring finger to say one way or another. : DarkWolf5
        • That's the thing about the totem, it only keeps the owner from knowing whether or not he's in someone els : lightsam
    • they never show you his left hand in the last scene : wendigo

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  Also did anyone notice when you capture the adjutant from the train mission, which sucked that the thing : abrasion
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    oh btw, I can't reply to your post since I don't have a US character. LOL. : filthysock
    • I need some US guest passes and I can clock it. how sad is it that you can't reply? jesus christ. : abrasion
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    I wish I knew the story behind the former voice actress for Kerrigan. Apparently her name is Glynnis Talk... : Magitek
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      They retained Robert Clotworthy who does Raynor - he sounds the same (although I find his new look a bit : abrasion
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        Yeah he looks really silly in the game. As does most of the character models. Apparently the water suppli... : Godhatesfatpeople
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          Well Jimmy should look a bit older I thought, he looked damn near bald in the original game. :/ : abrasion
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            Older is fine but everyone looks like wide gnomes in the game. : Godhatesfatpeople
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              They did model the woman well, she must be based off a real chick - she looked really damned good hot for... : abrasion
              • That I do agree with. : Godhatesfatpeople
• trying to get a game going, i realised the true reason behind blizzards aus=>us decision. On the first sc : filthysock
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    Actually there's no irony at all, do you know what irony is? : abrasion
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      You're right. It's not ironic. You're just a thief. : BlackCat9
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        What? How am I a thief? This is what guest passes do, let people play the game. I take offense blackcat... : abrasion
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          You're exploiting a bug in the guest pass system to play the game beyond the built-in limit. That's no di... : BlackCat9
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            Oh no, it's very, very different actually, hugely different. : abrasion
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              I think you need to explain how this is different. : BlackCat9
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                If I sell you a box of cheetos and you find a secret flap in the bottom containing 10 extra cheetos is th... : abrasion
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                  Just buy the game and play SP only. Problem solved? If you were really boycotting the product you wouldn'... : Talonus.
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                    Umm I don't think you kind of get how a boycott works or how simple transactions work, once they have my ... : abrasion
                    • A boycott works by avoiding the product entirely, not picking and choosing what portion of the product yo... : Talonus.
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                  First of all, you never BOUGHT anything, so that's a shitty analogy. Second of all, it doesn't matter ... : BlackCat9
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                    So you've never used or would never use anything to extend the length of a timed demo, like the ones on X : abrasion
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                      I used to, before I grew up and realized that the world requires me to pay for stuff that costs money. If... : BlackCat9
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                        So you are confirming that you've never used anything within software which allows you to continue using : abrasion
                        • He said "I used to". The argument isn't whether or not he's ever done it, it's whether or not it's piracy... : paulatreus
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                      This IS piracy. If a developer releases a timed demo, and you somehow circumvent the restriction, you are... : paulatreus
                      • I still think timed demos are bullshit. Limit the amount of content I have access to; I'd rather take my ... : AxeMan808
            • It's not hugely different. You got more than 2xs the legitimate hours of play based on caching with a per... : rmjackson
          • Yeah, I don't see how this is any different than the idiots who claim they pirate a game because it's not : paulatreus
      • You are a poet, and didn't know it : bashildy@speakeasy.net
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        Irony would be me paying Blizzard for guest passes or buying the game to finish SP but protesting by not ... : abrasion
        • you've spent your time though : EvilDolemite
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          Your definition if irony doesn't fit into any of these: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/irony ... : Galadriel07
          • I can assure you he's wrong, I didn't pay for the product and my boycott is valid - there is no irony. ... : abrasion
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            Can you tell me which of these definitions on dictionary.com you are using for your definition of irony? ... : Galadriel07
            • "an outcome of events contrary to what was, or might have been, expected. " Irony is building a sh : abrasion
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        wait wait, hold off the indignant reply for a sec: intention: convincing blizzard to allow full cross : busdriver3030
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          I remember when I used to be this retarded about steam. Then I grew up and realized they are just fucking... : avatar_58
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            Your lax and laid back attitude towards changes in gaming is the problem, not my whining. It's people ... : abrasion
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              Ultimately I'm standing up for what I believe in. By not paying for the game, but playing it anway throug... : busdriver3030
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                I got 8 extra hours, I could have just as easily not mentioned that in my post, jesus christ. : abrasion
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                  I don't have a problem with you using the exploit, or wanting cross region support. It's the glaring con... : busdriver3030
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                    I'm curious to know how it doesn't tick you off that he's taking advantage of the exploit like that. Am I... : ateam311
                    • nah you're right. : busdriver3030
            • I think I take more issue with your obvious self-entitlement than anyone who has bought into DLC/microtra... : Evil Benius
            • Really? I've never bought DLC - I said *steam*. As in giving a fuck about copy protection when really - i... : avatar_58
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      You just failed to boycott the game at all. You're just exploiting the system to claim some high ground o... : derelict515
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        If there was a bug or not, I would've still played 7 hours of SP and enjoyed it, they added the feature -... : abrasion
        • The principle is completely defeated by the fact that you went out of your way to play at friends' places... : derelict515
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          I don't think you understand what boycott means. You should do some research before you attempt to do th... : Galadriel07
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            I never started using the term boycott in the first place, derelict did, perhaps you should speak with hi... : abrasion
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              It doesn't matter who started it. You continued to use it in an inappropriate way. : Galadriel07
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                Ok, well my 'master plan of not purchasing the game' has no irony to it with me playing with guest keys, : abrasion
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                  I would think that you would show Blizzard more by not playing the game at all rather than by just not bu... : Galadriel07
                  • I know exactly why. it's called 'shacknews' : abrasion
      • To be fair, if they were boycotting it and not buying the game, they wouldn't be able to reply to his thr... : chrisschutz
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    Well, Blizzard made the call that people could play the game using guest passes. Perfectly valid strategy... : AxeMan808
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      for 7 hours. not 15 hours. : Galadriel07
      • (I was mocking the thread about lifting off your last Terran bldg for 5 hours being valid strategy - I gu... : AxeMan808
  • Not supporting a game by refusing to pay money for it is irony? : Zuchu
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  ha, playing the whole game through guest passes? Pretty funny. : Godhatesfatpeople
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    You got one? I'll suck your dick in a dark alley for a guest pass. I only used 1 so far and got 15 hou... : abrasion
    • Unfortunately (or thankfully) I don't have any. I had a couple but I gave those out to friends already. I... : Godhatesfatpeople
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      Just buy the fuckin game and quit bitching : avatar_58
      • But the principle! He's really teaching them a lesson! I bet Blizzard has their top men on this debacle... : paulatreus
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      Dear Blizzard, Your guest pass system is insufficiently conducive to my goal of beating the game for fre... : sgtsanity
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        Hey if I could buy SP only I would. : abrasion
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          You can buy the SP! And it comes with a bonus multiplayer component! : sgtsanity
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            I only want to buy the first three and the last five missions, so until they deliver that I'm playing for... : Dave-A
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              I want to buy the missions but don't need the cinematics since I can watch those on YouTube. Until they g... : sgtsanity
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                Those animations in the menu screen are totally slowing me down. I want a single strip at the top of the ... : Dave-A
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                  Dave-A : abrasion
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                    quick, give my posts a passive-aggressive tag to make yourself feel better!! : Dave-A
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                      oh look you already did. I AM SHOCKED AND CHAGRINNED, a-brasion! : Dave-A
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                        Well you had a cry last time I called you out, it makes me feel better (since it's so, so true) and avoid... : abrasion
                        • Perhaps I'll just start pirating games and justify it with some 100% bullshit. Whee! That funny enough fo... : Dave-A
        • A lot of us would only buy the SP, judging by some of the threads before the game came out. But Blizzard ... : BlackCat9
        • Would you say the SP was worth $50? : LoioshDwaggie
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  Stop posting this holy fuck, how many times do we have to go over this. : D45hiz
  • Go over what? It's a stupid rule, isn't it? : sammyl
• You're complaining about a game you don't even own, get over it. Speak with your wallet and not with you... : jingletard
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  abrasion, you're worse than Hitler. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • Someone should make a downfall video about me. : abrasion
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    I don't know. Did Hitler ever boycott Starcraft II? : noxiousgg
    • No. This is why abrasion is worse than Hitler. : paulatreus
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  You can't play against your friends in 1v1 ladder (the only mode there is) anyway. : Brian Leahy
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    Yeah but Brian that's totally logical - it's the custom games with a few pals which is important, it's no... : abrasion
    • I was being sarcastic. Honestly, Blizzard isn't going to change their position from "it's something we're... : Brian Leahy
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  Just use a no-cd crack and finish the game rather than having someone waste a guest pass on you. I don't ... : Talonus.
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    We disagree, I don't want to 'crack' the game. They made the mistake - I'm taking advantage. I can easi... : abrasion
    • And someone else says that about being crack proof when they do it. Justify it however you want, dude, ... : DianeOfTheMoon
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  i demand features for a game that I havent paid for and have said that I wont buy : maulla
  • Why should I give them money, BEFORE they give me the features? What incentive is there to add them? I d... : abrasion
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  I want a maddog reading of that on autotune. : virus
  • I can laugh at myself, this would be awesome - but add this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrML6s1wNHk : abrasion
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  Lacking feature(s) aside, you are a bit of an ass for taking advantage of the system like that. You can t... : ateam311
  • It's absolutely no different than downloading a game to "try before you buy" simply because the developer... : ateam311
• Thats lame dude. : wurt
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  This might be hard for them to implement. e.g. in WOW, different servers are in different regions and you... : spectr3
  • Thank you for getting off the other dopey topic. Yeah I wonder if it is a technical limitation or a de... : abrasion
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  http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=140486 <- this may change some peoples stance... : abrasion
  • How? : sgtsanity
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    At the end of the post they state this method can be used to install guest pass accounts on all your frie... : paulatreus
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      I didn't do that, sorry. : abrasion
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        Did Blizzard authorize you to use the game for more than 7 hours via the guest pass? No. You are stealin... : paulatreus
        • Seeing things so black and white is hilarious, they fucked up - same with the deadspace 2 eula - this isn... : abrasion
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      isn't this bug just unplugging your internet connection after authenticating and going offline? : dignan
      • Why does it matter how you accomplish it? You're intentionally bypassing the copy protection. : paulatreus
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  haha, if they nuke that thread like you suggest, because of you having a guest pass, they can go subscrib... : gakera
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    I killed 17 kittens to get that guest pass. (Do you agree with the post on the forums?) : abrasion
    • O most def, there really is no excuse for ditching cross region play from a multiplayer game (well, multi... : gakera
• abrasion loves cocks? : g.lee
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  Hey abrasion, I have an extra guest pass you can have. : midgetherder
  • can't you only redeem one guest pass per account? : dignan
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    No, I'm the devil spawn incarnate apparently - give it to another deserving shacker. : abrasion
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      how were you going to use a 2nd? create another account and move over save files? : dignan
      • Honestly, I thought you could use more than 1 key in an account, look how dumb I am eh. : abrasion
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  I think it's hilarious that you have been telling everyone how you will boycott and not buy the game unti... : dante2010
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    I seriously don't understand where he's coming from. You boycott the whole product, not part of it. : The Grolar Bear
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      It's about money, what part of this don't you people get? : abrasion
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        So, it's okay because you wouldn't have paid for it anyway is what you're saying. You do understand that ... : BlackCat9
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          That's such a lame, dumb response from a pretty smart guy. I know you adore blizzard but this is verging ... : abrasion
          • So instead you make the moral choice to exploit the guest pass system to play part of the game for longer... : dante2010
      • Yeah I realize it's about money. I'm just saying that I find it funny that you end up taking advantage o... : dante2010
• And on that note, I just bought the game! 7gb? yeesh. Will be done downloading in 3 hours. : foo

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• A post from the douche that wouldn't gg. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/939643-starcraft-ii-wings-of-l... : hatchet165
• not 1 stalker? lol : maulla
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  Wow... I'm surprised that that's viewed as a viable strat. Blizzard should have just copied relic in thi... : dedgecko
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    that completely breaks the economy in the game : maulla
    • yup. My guess is that if you have no units on the ground a 1 minute countdown should start for that playe... : GoldfishInAJarOfPickles
    • Laff - it's not instant. But yea, as jarofpickles stated below - since there is not a constant accrual... : dedgecko
• Stupid. : Godhatesfatpeople
• lol : bolneze
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  Why is the guy who lifted off the factory the douchebag? In the comments, people are just totally berati... : Jimb0v2
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    But hes not winning.... : YerMothah
    • and it was impossible for him to win : cltcprd
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    he lost the game. he had no possible chance at winning. it was very lame on his part : maulla
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      I agree that the terran has no chance of winning. However, the protoss also has no chance of winning. ... : Jimb0v2
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        They base traded. I think you don't understand how the game works. The two players base traded and th... : morsxcessum
        • Like, they can only hover for a half hour before they run out of gas. : lolpatrol
        • I understand perfectly how the game works. I played the beta a lot. The forces may NOT have met in ba... : Jimb0v2
        • lol. : justwr!ght
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        what? the protoss had the game won. a win happens in two manners: 1) enemy surrenders 2) all enemy ... : maulla
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          In chess, if one player has nothing but a king left and no way to move the king that doesn't result in a ... : Zek
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            Not being obligated doesn't make him exempt from ridicule for percieved poor sportsmanship. : ZTac
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              How is it poor sportsmanship to play for a stalemate? All of these posts that say this presuppose that t... : Jimb0v2
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                His gameplan of hoping that his opponent will disconnect. : ZTac
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                  Which is the same as the gameplan of the protoss because there is no stalemate condition. Noone has ... : Jimb0v2
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                    Or surrender, yeah. I would consider it good sportsmanship for the side without combat units to cede in ... : ZTac
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                      See, I do not agree. Terran have the ability to float their buildings and it gives them the ability to... : Jimb0v2
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                        Of course, because a high templar can destroy those buildings, it will jsut take forever : maulla
                        • High templars cannot attack. It can never destroy those buildings. Ever. : Jimb0v2
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                        I'm not interested in trading hypotheticals into infinity. I just see keeping a building out of reach wh... : ZTac
                        • See its funny because I see the protoss choosing to base trade knowing that he cannot destroy the terran ... : Jimb0v2
              • His game plan to delay the game and draw it out into an infinite loop of retardation? Stuff like this ... : morsxcessum
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                starcraft is not a game that is played to stalemate. : maulla
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                  not having a combat unit is like not having a king in chess. : maulla
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                    No, not having a building is like not having a king in chess. You just defined the win conditions of sta... : Jimb0v2
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                      a win is defined when the enemy has no units OR structures left. Its actually pointless to try to comp... : maulla
                      • *has buildings : maulla
                      • Where are you getting that definition from? In the game a win is only defined by losing all your structur... : ratman
                      • Even if that unit is a high templar? A win is defiend when the enmey has no structures left, period.... : Jimb0v2
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            I wonder if they can add a draw feature for situations like this, where they can determine if the last bu... : DHAvatar
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              There are still other situations like Vikings that won't land, etc. I think it should be an automatic dra... : Zek
              • Yeah, I think the time limit should be a bit longer maybe 30 min or 1 hr. I also think they should have ... : Jimb0v2
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            And I don't even know if its something that is possible, but I don't see why not, it would be helpful for... : Nerdsbeware
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              It's dumb that a building not creating any units can sit in the air like that for more than 5 hours strai... : Godhatesfatpeople
              • Yea, agreed. Again it seems like something a company like Blizzard would be able to figure out and fix. : Nerdsbeware
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                The mobility of the terran buildings is also one of the defining aspects of terran and helps to make the ... : Jimb0v2
                • Quite true, and again it should have nothing to do with the fact that he had a floating building, but mor... : Nerdsbeware
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                  Definitely. But there could be a penalty for having a building in the air like that for an extended perio... : Godhatesfatpeople
                  • Yeah, some kind of uber-slow self-damage. Like 1 point every minute that a building hovers. Not enough ... : KungFuKenobi
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            sc2 doesnt have a stalemate mechanic though : moshman
            • For something like this. It should. : Godhatesfatpeople
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              Yeah, it probably should though. : Jimb0v2
              • probably, gonna be a hard sell though : moshman
            • it should!! playing to a draw works for soccer! it adds to the discussion!!! just like this!!! :D :D :D : Downforce
          • the chess analogy is a good one. sometimes nobody wins, even if one side has an advantage in raw units : ]pm[chem
        • Neither player had the game won. "so its pretty clear who had won the game" How is that possibly tr... : Jimb0v2
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          That sounds a bit silly. If the guy with the ground units did win then he would have been awarded the vic... : Godhatesfatpeople
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            I won't argue that both players suck horribly to have placed themselves in this position, however the Ter... : morsxcessum
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              I agree. But if it's allowed due to Blizzard's MP design than there's not much of anything that could be ... : Godhatesfatpeople
              • Indeed. Plus both players are in Bronze, so this level of retardation does not surprise me. : morsxcessum
              • theres plenty of room to argue that the terran player acted like a douchebag. Its like taking home the ba... : maulla
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              The protoss also has no combat units, and also has no minerals or gas. Here is another example to prov... : Jimb0v2
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                you are only using factors from this situation that benefit your logic The protoss only had combat uni... : maulla
                • The only way the Protoss player has to win the game is if the Terran player intentionally places his buil... : Zek
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                  Wrong. If the Protoss player had no buildings he would have lost. He had two gateways. : giant boy detective
                  • yes that was my mistake : maulla
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                  he's not abusing a mechanic, he's using a valid tactic that blizzard has deemed necessary for the game. ... : indosauros
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                    Absolutely, we aren't arguing that. I think Jimb0v2 is arguing for draws, although having draws in game ... : morsxcessum
                    • I am not sure about draws. There likely are so few of these happening, I think its fine to just let them... : Jimb0v2
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                    Then how do you determine a winner at that point? In a rare situation like this where one side refuses t... : Nerdsbeware
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                      i'm all for arguing that a "draw mechanic" should be implemented, but people that say one or the other gu... : indosauros
                      • Some of us won't ever see eye-to-eye here. Its why we invented war. I'll play you guys in SC2, 1v1 styl... : morsxcessum
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                        he is a douchebag for doing that because starcraft is not a game thats played for a draw, and one will ne... : maulla
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                          And the protoss knew this when he chose to base trade. See you are focusing so much on the act of liftin... : Jimb0v2
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                            No, he made his decision based on an overwhelming force. He did not assume that the other player would be... : maulla
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                              Huh, maybe you know more about this particular game than me. How did the protoss lose his economy? I am... : Jimb0v2
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                                The protoss army was large enough to destroy the entire terran army, and base with the exception of one b... : maulla
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                                  it can't be a douche move if 1) it is a feature specifically implemented by Blizzard and 2) it prev... : indosauros
                                  • also, if he had nothing to gain from this tactic, then I might agree. a douche is a an asshole for the s... : indosauros
                                  • haha, ok man. The next time someone does this to you, make sure you tell the person that lifted what ... : maulla
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                                  Wait, am I missing something. There are only two possible scenarios I can come up with. Scenario 1 T... : Jimb0v2
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                                    starcraft. players. do. not. play. for. stalemate. : maulla
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                                      but they do play to not lose. : indosauros
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                                        no, they should be playing to win. playing to "not lose" caters to a game that has more outcomes then jus... : maulla
                                        • it doesn't matter what people should do, it matters what the rules are. Blizzard decreed that bases must... : indosauros
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                                          The terran player was playing to win. Base trading between terran and protoss in the early game generall... : Jimb0v2
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                                            do you seriously think that any of this ran through either of those players heads when this game was goin... : maulla
                                            • Is it unknown that Terran buildings can fly? Is this something new and unannounced in the latest patch? ... : indosauros
                                            • I cannot know what ran through their heads and it doesn't matter to me. I will tell you this though, I... : Jimb0v2
                            • No, he should have assumed terran would lifted all of his buildings once the base trade was initiated. an... : ratman
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                      You don't determine a winner, it's a stalemate. It's Blizzard's fault that SC2 has no means of detecting ... : Zek
                      • I guess, but that means it could go on for days. And at that point you are really only screwing yourself... : Nerdsbeware
                      • A mechanic to detect that would be great, but stalemates should not be awarded in the game. that doesnt m... : maulla
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                  How can you possibly say the protoss player has a way to win the game. The only way he can win the game ... : Jimb0v2
                  • Yes this is true. Again, we aren't arguing against the mechanic of Terran buildings can fly. We are arg... : morsxcessum
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                Now you are reaching Jimb0v2. Team games are nothing like 1v1 games. You can share resources in team ga... : morsxcessum
                • Fair enough, team game analogies are pushing it. =) I still disagree about the units thing though. To... : Jimb0v2
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    it's a stalemate. You can get them in chess too. If you finish the game with a king and a rook and the ot... : steelsamurai
    • What are you talking about, you can win with a king and a rook vs. a king. ... __ WK __ __ __ ... __ ... : alias
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  what a terrible ending to this story.. : dextius
  • Yup. Wasted all that time for nothing. : Godhatesfatpeople
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    I don't feel like scanning through all those forum pages - how did it finally end? : Dimmona
    • Protoss dude hit his reset switch by accident, uber-fail. : Nerdsbeware
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  why couldn't the guy make flying units and send them over there to pick away at that building? I don't pl... : kevp
  • Both their bases were destroyed. : Zek
  • Most likely because he has no more of an economy to build anything. Both players exhausted their resource... : Godhatesfatpeople
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    He had no income and no way to make air units. : Nerdsbeware
    • ah. I would have pressed enter and "show me the money" would have fixed everything! : kevp
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  Make Terrain buildings use energy to lift off and force land if they run out. Problem solved. : omnova
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    Not really, you can still land on a cliff or island. And that's a bad solution because it nerfs command c... : Zek
    • Get rid of cliffs and islands. Problem solved. : omnova
    • Alright how about this. If you've exhausted all your resources and only have one flying building. SC2 dow... : Godhatesfatpeople
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    Make Protoss units need to kill enemies or they die over time. Problem solved. : indosauros
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      Not at all. The Protoss still had two gateways. How can a factory destroy other buildings? : giant boy detective
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        have buildings self-destruct when protoss doesn't get any kills after a certain time then. : indosauros
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          btw I'm making fun of omnova's arbitrary statement that terran is the one that should get nerfed when the... : indosauros
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            It's just a douche-bag move. The guy lost and he wants to be a poor sport and play like a 5 year old. I... : giant boy detective
            • where do you see that the guy has lost? it is clearly a draw, and neither team can win. by the rules. : indosauros
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      Remove Terrain from the game. Problem Solved. : omnova
      • Be a bit hard for the ground units to fight in the void of space though. : Dong Patrol
  • no what they need to do is set a time limit that if no damage is done, after say 1 hour, the game ends in... : tunis5000
• Shouldn't there be something like the 50-move rule in chess? Like if one or both players have no construc... : tcs
• I had this happen to me in beta... It was fucking retarded and a multiple hour standoff went down. Eventu... : chrisschutz
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  need more Terran nerf : askedrelic
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    Hardly, while Terrans have the easiest time doing this, Protoss under certain conditions can trigger a st... : SolrFlare
    • Yeah, seems like just having the ability to mutually agree to intentional draw would solve most of these ... : Jimb0v2
• I think everyone's missing the most important thing here. Starcraft II and Battle.net are both stable. ... : Grumbeld
• This happened to goatrope and they settled it with a typeracer battle. After two and a half hours. ... : fleabug
• I've seen a similar situation my roommate went through during beta, except it was a command center. In t... : KungFuKenobi
• There was a similar situation posted on TeamLiquid. The game eventually kicked them off after 9 or so ho... : XingYuen
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  love that some of you are inventing your own set of imaginary rules about how starcraft should be played, : indosauros
  • This is my thought too. In chess there can be a stalemate if all I have left is a King and you have ... : Grumbeld
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    I'm not arguing that lift needs changed or removed. Its a lame play and thats all there is to it. This is... : maulla
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      meant to link to http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=22490405#itemanchor_22490405 http://www.shacknews... : indosauros
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        If starcraft were a game that could be played to a draw then those would be valid. Until then its a shitt... : maulla
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          how do you get that they are doing it to frusterate their opponent? that's clearly not what they're doin... : indosauros
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            Yeah, you need to seperate the old hide the building lamer tactic where the dude knows he's lost but is j... : Jimb0v2
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              how is this situation not "lamer tactic where he knows hes lost"???? "Preventing a loss" in this situa... : maulla
              • it's also impossible for the game to turn into a win for the protoss player. the ONLY way the game can... : indosauros
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                It's impossible for it to turn into a win for anyone without one side giving up. Thus, stalemate. The fac... : Zek
                • i don't get how they can expect any player to just give up, when they are not losing, and are playing by ... : indosauros
              • Because playing not to lose is not the same thing as playing to delay the other guy from winning. Playin... : Jimb0v2
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                I mean HOW DARE that Protoss player not have any ground-to-air units! What a douchebag for not being abl... : indosauros
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                  you are seriously overthinking this. these are two bad players that happened to trade a base. the ter... : maulla
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                    If he knew that he was beat, he would concede. He wasn't beat, and he knew that. Beat is if you lose yo... : indosauros
                    • And he obviously knew enough about the game to know THAT rule, and used it to his advantage. : indosauros
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                    Huh? This makes absolutely no sense. Lifting the base, was not "lol i'm going to waste this kids time."... : Jimb0v2
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                      and how is that not being a douchebag? : maulla
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                        Because he is not doing it for the sake of pissing off the opponent. He is doing it as a valid tactic to... : indosauros
                        • With hopes of pissing off the other guy that much that he says "fuck it" and quits. Different game, diff... : Nerdsbeware
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                          you are giving a bronze level player way too much credit. There is absolutely no way his intent was st... : maulla
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                            He knew it would prevent a loss. That is strategic enough right there. : indosauros
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                              And there's no way you can chalk this up to "bad players" because it happens in competitive play : indosauros
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                                a competitive player stands to benefit from it, whether it be a rematch or the other ways chill mentioned... : maulla
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                                  there's no "should have lost the game". you are inventing this situation, when it is not in the rules. ... : indosauros
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                                    you know just as well as I do that in 9/10 starcraft games, especially with good players, that the terran... : maulla
                                    • What are you talking about? So few games like this happen, how could you possibly make this type of gener... : Jimb0v2
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                                      Even if that were true, that's all anecdotal and irrelevant to the rules of the game. That some players : indosauros
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                                        I think you guys have lost the point here a bit. Something does not have to be against the rules to be a ... : magila
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                                          It doesn't have to be against the rules to be a dick more, I agree. But it does have to be without strat... : indosauros
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                                            Protoss player lost. Base lifting tactic has been validated! http://www.giantbomb.com/starcraft-ii-wings... : Delusional
                                            • The only bad tactic in this whole affair is the Protoss player's USB plugging skills : indosauros
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                                            A dick move doesn't have to be irrational either. There are plenty of common courtesies out there which a... : magila
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                                              This tenet holds much less for competitive gaming, where you are playing to win, and not playing to be ni... : indosauros
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                                                Now your moving the goalposts. I don't think anyone here is arguing that what the terran did was invalid ... : magila
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                                                  It reflects just as poorly on the character of the protoss who played himself into an unwinnable position... : Delusional
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                                                    Except they were not in equal positions at all. Even though neither side could win, the protoss was clear... : magila
                                                    • He's not in the stronger position. His chances of winning the game under his own power are 0%. Zero. None... : Delusional
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                                                      Stronger by what imaginary measure? The only measure whether someone is close to winning or losing is bu... : indosauros
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                                                        That he has more units is also irrelevant. What matters is that the units he has aren't capable of killi... : indosauros
                                                        • I guess you guys are entitled to your opinions, but I don't think the majority of starcraft players are g... : magila
                                • No, once again this "should have" stuff is a figment of your imagination. There was no winner. The only w... : Zek
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                            In this case I agree he was being a dick, go look at his posts on gamefaqs: "We both decimated each ot... : Nerdsbeware
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                              I wonder if he lifted as a douche, thinking his opponent would just build fliers to come kill him-- but t... : Jimb0v2
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                                They traded bases, he had to know Protoss couldn't do shit back. : Nerdsbeware
                                • Well, sometimes you get their main, but you don't know about an expansion. Or you don't know if he had a... : Jimb0v2
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                              That sounds like a perfectly logical line of strategic thinking to me : indosauros
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                                Unless he just attack-moved his guys into the base without looking, he had to have known he couldn't do a... : Nerdsbeware
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                                  Even if he said "shit my guys are dead, all he has is ground, I'll lift off" Isn't that perfectly logica... : Jimb0v2
                                  • Sure, like I said I was never denying that fact, I was more fighting the point that there should be a sys... : Nerdsbeware
    • Why would the rules be any different in a tournament or pro match than a ladder 1v1 game? Now, maybe y... : Jimb0v2
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    by the rules, it is simply a stalemate situation no it isn't. starcraft has no concept of stalemate, : electroly
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      i meant, by the rules (you must detroy bases to win) it is a stalemate. not that there is a "stalemate r... : indosauros
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        right, and that's what people are arguing: that there SHOULD be a stalemate rule : electroly
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          that's what some people are arguing, and I'm fine with that. arguing that one or the other player is a d... : indosauros
          • agreed. the problem is the rules, not these players. lifting your CC is a perfectly valid play : electroly
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    I don't know why this makes me so angry, but it does. Before this, I'd probably just call the guy a faggo... : Ellissd
    • Haha. Your post makes me equally angry. "Base lifting douchebag" hahah : Jimb0v2
  • This. It would be one thing if the other guy had resources to build flying units, so lifting off just de... : riptyde
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    "Inventing your own set of imaginary rules," eh? So the 'gg' principle supported by everyone on SC1/SC2 w... : AlexW1203
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      Yes? Where in the Victory Conditions for starcraft does it talk about the 'gg' principle? Why do you as... : indosauros
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        good players know when they are beat. : maulla
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          "Good players" play by the actual rules of starcraft, not some rules in maulla's head. And the actual ru... : indosauros
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            oh, so who should get the win and loss on their record? : maulla
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              Why does that matter? Email Blizzard about implementing a draw counter. As it stands though, neithe... : indosauros
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                So what would you do in this guys position? Would you leave or would you wait? And what would you do if y... : Nali4Freedom
                • If I had time, I'd wait. If not, I'd curse blizzard for not implementing a draw mechanic for when both p : indosauros
            • noone, its effectively a bug in the game. what if both sides end up with a barracks and no money, theres ... : Chandler55
            • Right now? Whoever disconnects first should get the loss. Those are the rules right now and this is suc... : Jimb0v2
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      The Protoss cannot win unless he drops. The Protoss cannot provide any interesting strategies, all he ca... : Jimb0v2
      • Times like these I'm glad I play zerg, the only "good guys" of the whole situation. : spectr3
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      No, people say GG and forfeit to avoid delaying the game when their loss is inevitable. They do not say i... : Zek
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        there is no stalemate in starcraft. : maulla
        • But there is a situation where neither player has the advantage and the player that wins is the one that ... : Zek
        • That's honestly what needs to be fixed. Because stalemates can occur in Starcraft, the game just can't e... : SolrFlare
  • This is absolutely correct. It is a stalemate. They base traded, the protoss lost everything but a gate... : SolrFlare
  • Its a valid play in the normal course of the game but this is no different than "hide the pylon" which i... : ninjase
  • His post is more an explanation of current tournament rules than an agreement with them. Anyway, my "sug... : omnova
• that has happened to me multiple times as terran...I just quit, no big deal really : lord_omega
• i avoid 1v1 because of random bullshit like this...team games are where its at. : crypt420
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  Why is everyone trying to assign blame to two people playing a game that doesn't handle this edge case ve... : sammyl
  • I wonder how many games actually end in an effective stalemate. Even 1% of games would be significant wi... : Jimb0v2
  • That's what's interesting. It's a relatively easy solution on paper. -Inactivity Timer -Stalemate Vo... : dedgecko
• man if I had SC2, I'd do this too just because of the subthreads in this thread. : moe6
• that's funny as. : even4
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  I think what is especially douchey is when you GG someone else as the soon-to-be winner before the though... : ninjase
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    But comeback wins after someone throws out a premature GG are soooo satisfying : ratman
    • It is! But its still douchey x 50 : ninjase
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    I don't GG people til I'm in their base and their army is dead, and the only way they could win is by sec... : sammyl
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      I feel from a sportsmanship perspective that it's not up to the winner to gg. It's up to the loser. : giant boy detective
      • Pretty much. Preemptive victory GGing is like being the 08 Patriots of Starcraft : ninjase
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      I only gg when I'm the one surrendering, or in response/acknowledgement to someone else giving a surrende... : ninjase
      • Yeah that's a massive dick move. : deject
      • Actually, you know when I pre-gg the most? It's when I totally wipe him out in the first attack. Like I w... : sammyl
  • That's when you come back and beat them, since their pre-emptive "gg" was due to poor scouting. : walker270
  • This happened to me in beta. Kind of a dicky movie, but he beat me fair and square so kudos to him I gues... : Ellissd
  • my first public placement i had a guy first accuse me of lag switching, then say i was acting petty (i wa... : dahanese
  • Pre emptive GG is the height of bad manner! Also fucking awesome when you come back and smash the cunts. : abrasion
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  Terran are the only race who can do this in the game. I think it's only fair Blizzard remove marauders... : walker270
  • banshees take 10pts worth of damage for every second they are cloaked! sounds fair : maulla
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  Maybe something like "Due to vibrations during flight, Terran bases take 1 damage per 10 seconds while th... : pigvomit
  • Maybe after 5 minutes and have to stay on the ground for a full minute before the counter is reset? : lightsam
• I would argue that the combat-unit-making structures should be able to make probes/drones/SCVs so if you ... : Code RedBeard
• Man just finished the Protoss mission line. "In utter darkness" might be the coolest missions I ever play... : mnok

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  Draft results for the West were pretty interesting. Omnova clearly has the best schemed team (suprise). ... : kainen1
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    I think Juno's team is going to be all out hilarity. The voice-chat is going to be amazing. I think the 6... : Alco23
    • :D : Maddog_Delphi97
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      hahah, agreed. I wish we could just have mp3s of that team : zakazi
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        Are voices going to be done separately outside of the game? I mean, are we using something like teamspea... : Maddog_Delphi97
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          I'd prefer if you'd just use the in game voip. if you really have to use something outside, I guess that'... : hirez
          • Better sound quality and latency? : Felraiser
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            It would be easier to record the game if voices are done ingame instead of something like teamspeak. B... : Maddog_Delphi97
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              You can record sound on voice servers. I think Teamspeak may even have integrated support for it, and I k... : Felraiser
              • Looks like Ventrilo integrates recording as well. : Felraiser
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                Yes, but is it easy to sync up the recording for the game itself with the voice? They're two separate st... : Maddog_Delphi97
                • Whoops, I misspelled streams as steams. My bad. : Maddog_Delphi97
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                  You'd have to sync them up either way, no? I assume you're talking about running an audio file alongside ... : Felraiser
                  • True, I'm just not experienced about this sort of thing.. it may be more straightforward than I think. : Maddog_Delphi97
              • livestream/justin.tv and the like all have options to record/stream "What you hear". So it's not a big is... : Alco23
  • i think all the teams look pretty good. : hirez
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    How in the hell did I end up on Maddog's team. Fucking Shit. : H@rvester
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      Harvester, what is it that you have against me? Is it my level of skill? My voice? That craiglist ad I... : Maddog_Delphi97
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        Maddog I have nothing against you personally. I love your voip commentary and you generally keep people e... : H@rvester
        • Why did you keep stabbing me in the back when I had that perfect ambassador spy snipe spot. It was amazi... : D45hiz
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          Okay, Harvester, I'll try to be less predictable and more helpful to my teammates. I promise. : Maddog_Delphi97
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            Maybe you should play medic and run around screaming FIX IT ALL UP POOKY instead. : twifosp
            • That depends on who else is a good medic. I'm not going to play medic if there's a better medic on my te... : Maddog_Delphi97
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            Just attack/defend with the team instead of by yourself, blow people out with airblast, and airblast the ... : H@rvester
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              You need to get together and teach maddog in some hilarious tf2 style rocky 4 montage. Have 2 spies over... : ant_hillbilly
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                hahahaha. I want to see this! : Alco23
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                  He just needs motivation. Photoshop JO bud and Anthony Anderson getting killed by a zaun. That will set... : ant_hillbilly
                  • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23624526#itemanchor_23624526 : Maddog_Delphi97
              • ZAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUNNNNNNNNNNN : Chandler55
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  Should be a lot of fun! Wonder if there was any sleeper picks later on : chungathebunga
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    only one that sticks out is Sze in the 7th round. IIRC, he was a good player that is a way big bargain t... : kainen1
    • Dude, he was a steal. I couldn't believe nobody had picked him by that point. I just wanted a spy and en... : omnova
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      I couldn't get his steam profile to work. Also I can't pronounce that : persuxe
      • I used to go by Sze (pronounced Z), but when people started calling me zed, I changed it to Sze (/ziː/... : Sze Ior
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      his profile was private so no stats and i've never played with him. total unknown! : wendigo
      • Yeah enough of those sleepers accumulated make a gigantic difference : kainen1
  • lol are you thinking of yourself :P : Chandler55
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  Omnova team FTW ;D : Mr.Johnson
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    IAWTP : Mmmmmoo
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      This is my first season playing with shack. Hope it lives up to the hype! : Mr.Johnson
      • Despite some drama, the first two tournaments were plenty fun. : Mmmmmoo
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    I am going to stab you in the face. : D45hiz
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      :D : yosemiteclimber
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        Did you draft straight off the NLS roster? : D45hiz
        • I did my research :) : yosemiteclimber
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      LOL yes please. : Mr.Johnson
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        Sorry no dual soldiers this time. You will have to earn your points like a real man without KritZ! :D : D45hiz
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          Works for me! I'm pretty rusty though so I might get put down at first. : Mr.Johnson
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            You'll do fine, trust me. : D45hiz
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              Have we played together before? I dont recognize the handle. : Mr.Johnson
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                He's Fortyfives : yosemiteclimber
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                  lol : D45hiz
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                    LOL Makes sense, unfortunate you're not on my team this season. :( : Mr.Johnson
                    • I know man, some captains did their homework! Hopefully their won't be too much drama this season. : D45hiz
                  • ha! : yosemiteclimber
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    He is re-uniting Team NSFW! Hopefully i get to stick around for the final here. : Jinxplayer
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      You're going to be banned from the entire community like last time.. i can feel it. : Mr.Johnson
      • So long as this community isn't ran by a total of 4 douchebag admin's with vagina's bigger than wtfbbq hu... : Jinxplayer
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  Draft results: http://bit.ly/9jwp3Q : Felraiser
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    See, was that so bad? : omnova
    • All said and done, it went pretty smooth. Well except for you reinstalling windows mid-draft :P : yosemiteclimber
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  i'm on a team whose mascot is a horse peeing a rainbow. in my book, everything went great. : harold.johnson
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    That's a unicorn, sir! : Grumbeld
    • At least that's what I want to believe. : Grumbeld
• can't wait to see who i get to kick some ass with. can captains see the comments i added to my profile o... : botch
• If you guys till need another server. My terrible server is still up. : mmaster_pw
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  Let's get it on! : Lightzout
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    Team Expert Bajowskis represent! : chungathebunga
    • we will hear the lamentations of their women!! : .frame
• Couldn't be bothered to play but I definitely look forward to watching these games. : boomstickah
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  It doesn't look like I was drafted :( : melkore
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    Same. I'm sad :( : aggressor
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      Unless East wasn't done? It looks completely different from West : aggressor
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        east is tonight at 9 est from what i gather : kgargs
        • Ah that makes sense. I was wondering why east looked so strange : melkore
        • Do I have to show up somewhere in order to be drafted? : JonathanBedrava
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  how can spectators watch? : NastyNorman
  • I want flyover spec mode so we can float around !!!!!!!!!! we need our own voice comm too, so we can say... : Downforce
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  So I played yesterday a little bit for the first time in forever and I gotta say, random crits are bullsh... : kainen1
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    there are a lot of ways to get crits in the game now that aren't random. you could have gotten buff bann... : ]pm[chem
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      dont know wth frontier justic is, but I know they were kritzkrieg'd.....the shots were isolated crits so ... : kainen1
      • rather, they were NOT kritz's : kainen1
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        frontier justice is the engineer's new shotgun. it gets crits when your sentry is blown up based on the ... : mikecyb
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          Am I going to be useless in the tf2 tourney because I don't have anything unlocked? : Jimb0v2
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            some of the unlocks are a big deal, I'd get them for whatever classes you plan on playing : ]pm[chem
            • oh... I thought that unlocks were taken away during these type of things.. hmm time to start playing more... : johnshermanhoyt
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              That sucks. :( I hate playing on pubs. : Jimb0v2
              • it wouldn't take very long if you have a couple teammates helping you on an empty server : ]pm[chem
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    tournament 4. do what you want! : hirez
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      nah im not dissing your tourney or the rules hirez, just a general commentary tbh : kainen1
      • I know. but come T4, you can lobby for this! : hirez
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    While your skill in the game, general personality, and now this revelation all speak highly of you, my le... : omnova
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      you got a hankerin for punishment nova? 1v1 b-ball time. : kainen1
      • Meet me on the courts at dusk and we'll settle this like men. : omnova
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    I don't know how anyone couldn't think this way after dueling someone you hit your first two rockets and ... : D45hiz
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      Duels shiz? Those were the good old days. The nightly OVH duels with airshots aplenty. : FlamingGimp
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        DUELZ JJ Those were the days. I could never beat either you or omnova, but it was a blast. There is ... : D45hiz
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          We must have done those for months, seems like ages ago. The job is good, working for BIG OIL right no... : FlamingGimp
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            I'm bringing back DUELZ. Just you wait. It'll happen. BBall too. : omnova
            • Awesome. : D45hiz
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            I guess I am what people would call a casual gamer now. Though I still have my rage moments in HoN. I ... : D45hiz
            • Also, You must send me this BIG OIL video. I hope it has Bush in it telling me all this oil on my coast ... : D45hiz
  • tthey really are not that big of a deal. I have rarely seen it completely change a round. : hirosushima
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  Did you have to register to be a sub? I never saw it but I'd put myself out there since I didn't sign up... : RyDogg1
  • yeah, I'll be collecting stragglers for sub play. just send omnova a shackmessage. : hirez
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  All East captains have their ducks in a row for tonight? Let's not pull dudes offa beach unless we have t... : geedeck
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    I'll text razzle and make sure he can make it. : kgargs
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      he says "yeah i think so" : kgargs
      • well that's certainly reassuring : kill9
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  Every team that passed on me is gonna pay ... BIG TIME. : midgetherder
  • YOU'RE GONNA FEEL THE IMPACT OF THAT ONE IN A MINUTE! : Alco23
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  We ever figure out when the matches are gonna be? Is it gonna be a set day and time? Or it's gonna be whe... : nyranger66
  • Sunday nights. : ant_hillbilly
  • Next year. : omnova
  • Weekdays at 10:30 AM : H@rvester
  • Sunday nights. Ignore what omnova and Harvester is saying. : Maddog_Delphi97
• Success! Drafted last round. I have zero idea how good my team is going to be. Oh man. : johnshermanhoyt
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  Which unknown name is DrFlammable? : 7621305
  • which team has the most RS players? : kgargs
  • haha, excellent question : ]pm[chem
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  my team's probably all "Fuuuu not that whiny bitch rage-quitter proclone" but I promise in advance: I wi... : proclone1
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    with 6 teams im pretty sure theres some round robin action going on. you will have lots of games ! : Chandler55
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      chandler why arent you playing : mXENO
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        i dunno why arent you, you'd be #200 pick at this rate am i right : Chandler55
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          what does that mean : mXENO
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            you're not playing mXENO? Press F10 for life! : .frame
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              no i suck and am no longer a #2 pick : mXENO
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                haha I suck and got picked #6! : .frame
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                  I got the first pick for East and i picked DrWaffles last night. : Dschinghis Khan
                  • Can't go wrong with PCP. : omnova
                  • So the first overall pick for the entire draft was none other than fucking DrWaffles. YOU'RE GONNA FE... : Dschinghis Khan
          • it means you suck and no longer a #2 pick : Chandler55
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  EAST COAST CAPTAINS How about we do the draft at 8 PM EST tonight. Does that work for you guys? : Dschinghis Khan
  • Wait I need longer than that. 9 pm est works better. : thecatinthehat
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    Just got home, I could do 8 PM EST but would prefer 9 PM EST : kill9
    • Ok, We will keep it 9 PM : Dschinghis Khan
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLXsWyI2z8E Aww yeah!! Playing pyro is fun! : Maddog_Delphi97
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    If you do that during the tournament I will paypal you $100 : H@rvester
    • I'll see what I can do! :D : Maddog_Delphi97
  • It is a lot of fun, but most people don't even try to do that stuff. : omnova
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  I guess I can announce it here but due to recent changes to the Department of Defense's deployment outloo... : Sailor of Fortune
  • Are you an east coast sailor? : thecatinthehat
• Is it too late to sign up for this? (east coast) : Druuge