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  a great deal of this freshly-banned crowd are claiming (screaming, really) that they’ve never che : riptyde
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    Nor do they ever scream or complain when they're caught. : Ride-My-Rocket
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      Has VAC always been monitoring MW2, or was it only recently activated? If it's been banning real cheaters... : code-e255
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        Judging by the forums, it's been on since retail. : project13
        • I think there's been maybe two prior mass bannings of VAC in relation to MW2 PC. and maybe one or two to ... : Downforce
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  of COURSE they are screaming they haven't cheated. also: holy shit VAC is doing something for MW2 !??!?! : Downforce
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    Maybe it's delayed enforcement from infractions back in November 2009. : the archvile
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      I was going to abandon MW2 and get behind BC2 and punkbuster because it DOES SOMETHING. : Downforce
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        Yeah, ban my brother from Battlefield 2 when he didn't even had the game installed >> We found out 2 mon... : Smoochy666
        • that sounds like cd-key hijacking : Downforce
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          i don't think they ban you right at the time of infraction since they want it to not be too clear what ex... : dantastic
          • I don't think BF2 has a lick of integration with VAC or a delayed system. BC2 for example has instaban... : Downforce
      • punkbuster is garbage. It does even less than VAC. : TimeDoctor
• also one of the people banned was named Dave. coincidence i think not : spiderfill
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  And a great deal of the people in prison claim they're innocent. : Arcanum
  • Prison? More like gulag, because it sounds like these people have no fair trial or means of appeal. : dumb.
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  We got a few tips about this and it's a difficult subject. I've known some cheaters to go to extraordinar... : Alice O'Connor
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    Valve's policy of secrecy makes this a bit difficult to understand. The official Steam website article o : the archvile
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      wouldn't that be cheating? : dantastic
      • Technically yes, though it doesn't mean that they actually did anything with it. Suppose that some perso... : the archvile
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  Does a VAC ban ban you from all games or the one that you got caught in? : Omaha
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    i believe that once you're vac banned in one game, it's applied to any multiplayer game that uses vac : harold.johnson
    • the VAC system will ban the user from playing on VAC-Secured servers in the future. https://support.st... : the archvile
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• HDNet rules. : snot3353
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  Well, a great deal of this freshly-banned crowd are claiming (screaming, really) that they’ve neve : zakazi
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    In my experience, whenever a parent starts a sentence about their kid with "My <insert kid's name>", 95% ... : riptyde
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      oddly enough, this fact also holds true for politicians. : mindmann
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        The second example (the sex one) is a real one. My freshman-year college gf's mom said something to the ... : riptyde
        • Haha epic. : morsxcessum
    • Pretty sure Hitler's mom said the same thing. There's your Godwin for the day folks. : Godhatesfatpeople
• shouldnt have cheated. all the bitching and crying hopefully wont help. cheaters never admit it and the... : xxx2xxx
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  I dunno but I regularly run into cheaters in BC2 in pubs, MoH Beta as well. I imagine MW2 is even worse. : spectr3
  • There have been many videos posted of MW2 cheaters, console as well as PC. Remember the "rapid fire gren... : the archvile
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  A shacker was saying he was vac banned last week, too : Durajim
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    http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23532632#itemanchor_23532632 : Durajim
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      Somehow I don't believe him. : LoioshDwaggie
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        He admitted he was using some sort of hack for single player. : Crimsonbeak
        • haha, what a dick. Why did he go to all the trouble of posting both his thread and on the steam forums : Durajim
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          ohh nvm that was someone else. : Crimsonbeak
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            Yeah, haha. "Oh I just left this trainer on for another game while I was playing this OTHER GAMe and got ... : LoioshDwaggie
            • LOL if VAC actually checks its memory for cheats/modifications as it claims in the EULA, and not just 'i... : b00tch
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          No i didn't you f*****g egg. Read the thread. : millakazuya
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      • I didn't really, either - But I'd like to think we can believe him : Durajim
      • his post history suggests a polite cool fellow from new zealander, sounds decent : Chandler55
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  So where is RPS reaching that conclusion? People are complaining? : byorn
  • The angry mob can be found on the Modern Warfare 2 forums, the Steam forums and in their invite-only Stea : the archvile
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  What cheating is there in MW2? : TwiLyght
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    Or is this just on the PC side? : TwiLyght
    • What cheating isn't there in MW2 PC? Plus the "developer console hack" may count as a cheat, as I specul... : the archvile
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    Aimbots? What's funny is that it's a 'feature' in the console version with aim assist. : phate81
    • I think all consoles FPS games have that. Its not the same as an aimbot, but yeah I get what you're sayin... : doomed
  • Probably the usual FPS cheats - invisible walls, aimbots, invalid character models, etc. : jingletard
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    since there's redboxing from the air, people are hacking that into normal infantry vision. and of cou... : Downforce
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      IW (or rather Activision now) got their money, why do they care one bit about the players? : alias
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        because there're sequels to sell : derelict515
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          Haha, you think Activision cares about the future? Funny. : alias
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            yes, they care about their continued profitability : derelict515
            • No all they care about is their current profitability. : AgentPothead
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              http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/63676 : alias
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                dude, Activision sees the future as cranking out new Call of Duty games, new Guitar Hero games and that i... : deject
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                  Yes, brilliant decision to fire the team that created the intellectual property that made their company a : alias
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                    It says they left, not that they were fired. And Activision has already had success with a non-IW team ... : derelict515
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                      the IW games outsell the Treyarch games by a pretty big margin and the review scores are also pretty diff... : mikecyb
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                        Right, but they're decent considering Activision has always treated them as B team releases. Even if WaW ... : derelict515
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                          I don't think World at War could have ever gotten the numbers that MW2 got, even if they had given it a s... : mikecyb
                          • I agree, but some of those things you mention wouldn't be a problem if Treyarch or whoever did MW3 as opp... : derelict515
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                      The whole debacle was started when Activision essentially denied payment to the higher ups of Infinity Wa... : alias
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                        I'm well aware of what happened. You still posted an article about people leaving the company and then we : derelict515
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                          Never said those 40 people were fired. Only the two top guys which lead to the rest leaving. Activisi... : alias
                          • For all we know they're completely in the right to have axes their two leads for breach of contract. I kn... : derelict515
                  • Activision doesn't give a shit about creative talent. They want a competent team of devs who can crank o... : deject
              • I'm not sure what you think this proves : derelict515
          • And do people care about what happened in the past when there's a new game out?! : DM7
        • And people will buy them anyway. : Dschinghis Khan
    • Why are you certain that innocent people are getting banned? What evidence do you have that these are no... : deject
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gx49n713ceM This was out less than 48 hours after the game shipped. I'... : i38warhawk
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    It's one of the worst games I've played in terms of problems with blatant hacking. It's funny how the de... : excitebike111
    • Some people suspect this type of hack has resulted in innocent players being banned. : i38warhawk
  • Well, I think the servers that level you up to 70 upon entering a game is cheating, and the user doesnt h... : jdcope
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  Yeah Vavle's VAC policy is bullshit. I don't believe in lifetime bans for a game cheats. Ban for 30,60,90... : Modulus
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    Oh fuck those people. : Dschinghis Khan
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      I agree, but I'd rather have a lenient system on the off chance that someone is wrongly accused. Also I... : Modulus
      • exactly, it's all about the false positives. I'd be pretty goddamned pissed if someone hacked my account... : proclone1
  • Past experience shows that they are pretty confident in their bans and they intentionally do delayed acti... : alias
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    Valve is probably taking the approach that if they run a strict, zero-tolerance policy, they'll reduce th... : the archvile
    • Anti-cheat in general is in a sad state. Both VAC and PunkBuster suck. VAC is only slightly less bad ... : alias
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      I think absolute secrecy concerning the methods is important for preventing workarounds though. Hackers c... : Zek
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        So in the event of a large-scale false positive, what would you expect to see happen? Something like a s... : the archvile
        • I would expect Valve to research the bad logic and reverse the bans that happened as a result. Listening ... : Zek
    • the fact it's entirely offloaded to valve is deeply wrong to begin with. IW should do SOMETHING, and have... : Downforce
    • We are missing some data here. We don't know exactly how VAC works. One thing we can speculate on wit... : morsxcessum
  • I believe in lifetime bans only if there is undeniable proof. Otherwise, why the hell would you give a pe... : jingletard
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    My original steam account was VAC banned a few years back while it was stolen and they refused to do anyt... : RetroRedEyeJr
    • Ugh. What a "nightmare" scenario. I mean, keeping things in perspective, at the end of the day, the who... : buroja
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      Protecting your account is your responsibility. It's been in their subscriber agreement for a long, long... : deject
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        I agree with that, but i would be absolutely destroyed if that happened again to my current account for s... : RetroRedEyeJr
        • Especially if your account wasn't actually breached. Then you would be even more destroyed right...? : millakazuya
  • Or don't cheat. That works too. : ColoradoCNC
• Happened to a shacker : pancake humper
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  VAC bans are very scary but I'm always skeptical of the claims of false positives. Valve isn't stupid, th... : Zek
  • Or maybe they're just proud. I think if Valve really does consider how big a hit it is for hundreds of... : the archvile
  • eh, if the false positives occur on a small scale it's easier to shrug them off. Pissing off a small amou... : Modulus
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    Considering VAC only matches against known programs, I highly doubt the false positives. : YerMothah
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      software is not infallible. I get false positive from my virus scanner, and it matches against virus patt... : Modulus
      • Yeah, when you use herustic scanning. Pure pattern matching is almost impossible to get a false positive. : YerMothah
    • I doubt VAC has never been wrong and while I also doubt it happens very often, it's fucking scary to thin... : Hemtroll
  • Without dedicated servers where did VAC controlling and filtering take place? in the IWNet cloud? : Lukiopimp
• That doesn't make sense. In the past they have accidentally banned legit players and have rescinded thei... : willardjuice
• The game is rife with cheaters, and I'm curious to see if any legit players have been banned but I suspec... : jingletard
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  I hate vac, it banned 2 of my steam account for no reason... I haven't ever downloaded cheats before. I h... : hobohun7er
  • accounts* : hobohun7er
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    Did you do all of your CS playing on your own machine? Or did you login to your Steam account from a frie... : liqker
    • Only on my computer, and I was the only one in my house to play it. : hobohun7er
• The only problem I have with it is the lack of transparency. How certain can we be that it's correct ever : RikiTiki2
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  archvile i like you but these are the only kinds of posts you make :( : FrayLo
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    it's like modern warfare 2 killed your family and this is your way of taking it out on them : FrayLo
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      I've wondered why he does this as well. : pandastrong
      • he's tracking the gaming apocalypse aka the rise of consoles : derelict515
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  VAC isn't completely automated. It identifies cheats and then someone goes in and approves a ban for any... : Kylegar
  • yeah given the delay between cheating and the ban I can't imagine they don't review everything pretty tho... : mikecyb
  • stop with your logic. : dahanese
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  VAC Turned me in to a Newt. : Crimsonbeak
  • ....It got better... : YerMothah
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    A newt? : rosewood
    • I got better. : Crimsonbeak
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    A Newt? : watcherxp
    • He got better: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23565838#itemanchor_23565838 : rosewood
• man I would be so pissed if this happened to me, I don't cheat and I don't have anything to fear but it s... : stgdz
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  It wasn't VAC but as I have posted before, Xbox Live banned my Xbox 360 a few years ago soon after moving... : Nighteyes
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    Your Xbox Live experience has absolutely no relation to VAC. You have no fucking clue how they actually ... : deject
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      You have yet to hear of one because Valve doesn't investigate claims at all so there is no way to find in... : Nighteyes
      • Bullshit. You don't know their process do you? : deject
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      I think he was just stating a story in which a similar thing happened to him, providing empathy to the ot... : repeat2k
      • He said "These systems are definitely fallible and my Xbox is proof which sucked a lot." While it is t... : deject
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  i do not understand the correlation between the movies and your blurb and would like you to explain your ... : dahanese
  • Personally I think 2010 was the better film. : Jonathan
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    "The 9000 series is the most reliable computer ever made. No 9000 computer has ever made a mistake or dis : the archvile
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      i've had issues with you in the past where i reply to one of your block quotes and you say that i am assu... : dahanese
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        Yeah I am far more apt to take Valve's word over a bunch of random people on the internet. I have absolu... : deject
        • yeah - they have nothing to gain from banning people on a whim, however, they do gain from banning people... : dahanese
        • What evidence would you like? : millakazuya
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  Any puntive action that can result in actual loss should have some type of appeals process. : i38warhawk
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    you agree to the terms and conditions when you buy the game. i for one support valve and VAC whole hea... : wimpy1
    • lol you are so wrong, Valve admitted they were wrong and gave away two free copies of L4D2 to everyone af... : i38warhawk
• Security by obscurity, yay. : Beady
• To those legitimately banned, you deserve it. I wish MS would do more on XBL. : VictoriouSecret
• skynet is online : gx8
• C'mon RPS... This is Kotaku level quality you're doing with this story now. Say it isn't so. : Zips
• You can sit there watch and end-of-round replay where everyone get's to spectates a hacker as he tracks p... : barcibus
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  I don't like the fact that Valve never says why. I have a legitimate program running in the background th... : baron calamity
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    Why don't you do it? I'm sure they'd take a look at it. They're considerate of disabled gamers, far mor... : deject
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      I'm not the lawsuit type. Besides it doesn't really affect me all that much. : baron calamity
      • I'm not talking about lawsuits, just let them know that it's for people who don't have a "normal" level o... : deject
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  Yes finally. I've been posting on Steam Forums, Shacknews forums and others. And not getting any love ... : millakazuya
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    i think people just hate cheaters and dont want to give any love to someone who could possibly be fraudul... : Chandler55
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      Thanks mate. I appreciate it. The thing is if i werent banned I would be on the other side of the c... : millakazuya
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        To expand/re-state my previous post: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23566536 It is in Valve's bes : deject
        • I don't think they are fucking over customers at all. I believe that they have received poor information ... : millakazuya
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    You're not getting any love because there is no reason to give you any. You don't have any proof that yo... : deject
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      Understandable, but i'd hope that you might reconsider your standpoint that all these non-cheaters are li... : millakazuya
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        If they can come up with any reason for me to do so I will. The fact remains that there is no way for me... : deject
        • Because I don't install any mods. i don't do any of that kinda thing. I barely play MW2. And when I do it... : millakazuya
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  Cheaters gonna cheat. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • I love how dramatic PC gamers are. They love them the Skynet references. : Godhatesfatpeople
• Just wanted to again say how happy I am that some news outfit has picked this up. I don't want Valve ... : millakazuya
• just got an email from gabe apologising. Fuck you haters. : millakazuya
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  just got an email from gabe apologising. Fuck you haters. : millakazuya
  • Glad they fixed it. : GoodBoy

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• Work on my Orc Shaman. He's level 78 now on Exodar. I actually thought I'd hate healing to, but It's kin... : jonin
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  Well, I ran my first ICC25 in a PUG Friday night, wound up getting 3 pieces of gear off the first 3 bosse... : ArcKnight
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    because DKs are warlocks with plate. faceroll = win. : Downforce
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      It's weird going from a hunter to a DK - I only use two action bars for the DK, and the second one is bas... : ArcKnight
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        Hunters are kings of a million binds because we have so many situational abilities. : Chod
        • Yup. So many macros too. MD, pet control etc. : node
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    try blood tanking instead - much more difficult to hold AOE threat plus incredible single-target threat : lordlobo
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      I did but then the only AOE abilities are blood boil and DnD, and DnD is on a 30 sec cooldown. Just seeme... : ArcKnight
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        I would definitely pick blood for, say, offtanking in ICC or something. Incredible health regeneration po... : ArcKnight
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          Once you're 80 Blood becomes a better tanking spec in all situations. Higher effective health, better... : InfoBiter
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            You also wouldn't consider taking someone who's not at, what was it, 5700 gearscore? Forgive me if that d... : ArcKnight
            • I don't know the first thing about gearscore and don't really care all that much about gear to begin with... : InfoBiter
      • You can get DnD down to 15 seconds like normal, just put points in it in Unholy. : Chod
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    The only hunter in the raid? That's fucking impossible. : Rotten Deadite
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      When I joined, there was another hunter but they DCed and didn't rejoin. I'm on a low pop server thoug... : ArcKnight
      • But we did have 5 shaman. : ArcKnight
    • Not really, GOOD hunters suitable for even average guilds are rare. : node
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  I prefer priest healing out of all he healers. Disc especially. : kek
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    I like Druid healing most. DoT healing is a lot more difficult to do efficiently. I enjoy the challenge. : noxiousgg
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      Really? Only done a bit of drops healing but intend to go shammy raiding resto. I thought Druids were eas... : node
      • This is a late reply so you might not see it, but I find druid healing more difficult because you don't h... : noxiousgg
• Tanked my first ICC10. My co-tank, a DK, forgot to turn on Frost Presence until we'd downed Lady Deathwhi... : Jumperus
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  Did a bunch of 72-75 instance with my enhancement shaman. He's lots of fun to play, but as a damage deale... : code-e255
  • Thats pretty much the only thing I like my prot pally for. Well, that and soloing old raids and whatnot ... : MacemanInTW
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  No leveling trinkets for shame :) http://www.wowarmory.com/character-feed.xml?r=Korgath&cn=Yma Work... : stonedonkey
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    leveling ... trinkets?! =O I got the shoulders on her, working on more stone shards. I think i have like... : g0nk
    • http://www.wowhead.com/item=42991/swift-hand-of-justice#sold-by : stonedonkey
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      man 2x mana return heirloom trinkets are shithot for a caster. : rmjackson
      • I've got one of each trinket, mostly because the health return one was nice on my druid I just leveled as... : MacemanInTW
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  Created a warrior. Really excited to do RFC with him in prot. When is the first level that I can queue up... : chungathebunga
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    15. : g0nk
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      Sweeet! Kind of nervous, haven't played a tank since EQ : chungathebunga
      • Tanking at that level isn't really tanking. You can pretty much zerg everything. Hell, I tanked Gnomer ... : MacemanInTW
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    Tanking is actually a shitton of fun imho. I guess the only reason there aren't more tanks is because lev... : code-e255
    • I loved tanking when I played. I was main tank for my guild when we ran MC and BWL. Back in the day. : RogerDandy
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      There aren't more tanks because apart from the healer, the tank is blamed for bad pulls, wipes, slow prog... : Salad Sammich
      • No, there aren't more tanks because the role is just that much harder. In a sea of retards of course the... : R@zzle
    • You can level in the LFG tool now, but even prot warriors are fairly fast at soloing once you get the rig... : TreMetal
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    I ran a few randoms with my 71 Warrior tank and dammit, it's fucking fun. I really don't understand who t... : das_runt
    • The problem is most warriors tanks don't know what they are doing.. same with Paladin ones, but tanking a... : TreMetal
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  I finished my priest to make it 9 level 80s of each class, except druid. Druid is 72 and can tank. ... : lordlobo
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    I wonder how many ppl have 10 level 80 characters on one server and how much someone might actually pay f... : x4nth3
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      your not allowed to sell xang. : AMikaboshi
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        I am only 7/10 and doubt I can get the last 3 to 80 before Cat comes out. I could never sell anyway, I w : x4nth3
        • you had me worried for a few minutes :D : AMikaboshi
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          #8 (rogue) took awhile but it was a long time between that and #7 (warlock I think). #9 (priest) was m... : lordlobo
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            Can you really level doing just the weekend bgs? That never really occurred to me. : rt702
            • If you're winning often the xp is as good as or better than quest xp. Combined with questing between ~8m... : lordlobo
          • I'm at 6x80 but #7-8-9 are all 70 (played them in tbc) so I'm not that far off. :p I'm leaving #10 on hol... : gia-
    • It's probably more than you think, I know of at least one other person on my server in my guild who did t... : lordlobo
    • I've got all of my guys but the shammy I'm working on to 80, most of them in a mix of tier 9 and 10 gear.... : MacemanInTW
  • If you are going to level with the random dungeon finder make sure you pick up the instance quests for ea... : MacemanInTW
• I'm addicted to random dungeons :D I actually rolled a holy/prot paladin a few months ago just so I could... : gia-
• I'm leveling a Priest also with the Shack guild, level 12 so far. Can't wait to hit 15 so I can do dung... : tcxsnoop
• Worked with cjcharv on gearing up. Random BS. : mace
• Part of me feels envy that this is first time leveling that class; you get to experience all the unique t... : das_runt
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  Healing pugs blows g0nk. You'll get either a ret pally or a dps warr that are tired of the queues so they... : KxRook
  • Stuff like this makes me want to wipe out stupid genes. : morsxcessum
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    I find that streaming these cuts down a lot on bad players. Once I notify them that they're being livestr... : LoioshDwaggie
    • Hmm, I'll have to try that sometime. Not actually streaming (I don't think my computer would handle i... : InfoBiter
• Helped two of my friends gear up, and learning how to heal instances. Had a pretty decent Holy Paladin se... : Smoochy666
• Started a Shaman and Druid on MG. Wife wants to continue leveling our toons on Zangar. My Shaman turned a... : VictoriouSecret
• Thats pretty funny, alliance leveling up in RFC? : Slowtreme
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  Did Ruby Sanctum 25 on my alts (Resto Shaman / DK Tank). While I do enjoy that instance ... I really w : InfoBiter
  • Yes. Its amazing how bad people are. I think this is mostly caused by idiots being completely zoomed in... : morsxcessum
  • It's so awesome being a tank though, because you get to be cock of the fucking walk. Every group will kic... : Entity
• Leveled my 77 (78?) Pally in some randoms with guildies on Friday since our 10 man ICC fell apart, then o... : Piett23
• i found out WoW does not work at all when my display is in portrait mode. i don't know if it's a driver ... : electroly
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  Finally downed H:LK 25 last week. One of our mages made a vid of the kill. Part 1: http://www.youtube.... : rolecks
  • Grats, that must have felt good. Also, youtube either hates me or your video =( : InfoBiter
  • Awesome, we can never get the right comp together any more for legitimate attempts with summer and burnou... : Nihilist
  • Thats actually one of the better H Arthice video's I've seen. I love the guy who's all "I"m still out... : InfoBiter
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    Grats. SN is a solid guild, there were a few times in the past before I sold my main I had interest in a... : dmaownsyou
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      I'd love to get in on some GDKPs on the realm. Are they usually open to new carriers or are they always t... : rolecks
      • The Tan Do Li Ga GDKPs usually only bring a few buyers that are committed to 50k for h dfo and h dbw, oth... : dmaownsyou
  • Grats, that fight is a bitch and a half :( : MacemanInTW
• Resubbed and doing heroics to get heirloom goodness ready to level goblin shammy! Enjoying my hater again... : node
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  I Resubbed, made my hunter Oshosh on Mal'Ganis, joined Shugashack, grouped with guildies and made it to l... : Digital_Bath
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    Yeah, the shugashack guild is far better than I thought it would be. And i thought it would be pretty goo... : re-verse
    • If it wasn't for work I'd be online playing right now... I'm having fun just doing and exploring the are... : inc77
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  Did a GDKP ToC 25 raid w/ some guildies and pugs. Wow that was fun. Way way better than random rolling. P... : ratman
  • Nice =D I always used to feel bad on our GDKP runs. We had two guildies with multiple toons over the ... : InfoBiter
  • GDKP's are awesome, made over 21K on Friday in ICC, did like 5 HMs and was fun to kill LK 25 in a pug. D... : Nihilist
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    So how exactly does a GDKP run work? I've seen very few mentions of them in trade chat but I've never hea... : ArcKnight
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      People pay X amount gold for an item (some kind of bidding system). At the end people have paid Z amount... : TreMetal
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        Hmm, that sounds pretty interesting. Unfortunately since I play on a low pop server, I doubt there's any ... : paulatreus
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          Pugs don't work that way, as you earn DKP buy consistent raiding. : breadsticks
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            What? Did you ignore the explanation completely? : ArcKnight
            • I missed a post, yes :( : breadsticks
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    Ok, WTF is a GDKP run? : paulatreus
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      Gold DKP run, person with the most gold wins the item. At the end of the run, accumulated gold from item ... : jra101
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        that sounds fucking horrible. like, 'guy/girl who buys gold gets anything he/she wants' bad. : eskimo spy
        • Except if someone pays huge amounts of money and you don't get an item, that just means you make a shit t... : Chod
        • it all evens out, since the money paid in is distributed right back out to all of the raiders. if someon... : electroly
        • ^^ Its awesome. Its also nice in that it attracts geared players who just want to make gold for running c... : ratman
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          It's a fun way to twink out your alts once you've hit gold cap a couple times. : jra101
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            okay I get it, this is for people who play more than anyone I know or play with. yeesh. : eskimo spy
            • Do you even play at all? Buying gold is a waste of money given how easy it is to come by now. Has nothing... : ArcKnight
        • It sucks if you're broke. But you can make an assload of money and be ready to go for the next time. Or, ... : Entity
  • Yep, good GDKP's are much more fun than traditional raiding for me right now. Its even better if you are... : dmaownsyou
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  I Thunderstormed 4 people into oblivion in Eye of the Storm today. : Marrbe
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    Haha. Eye of the Storm is great as an Elem Shammy or Boomkin. : paulatreus
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      A classic moment was when I got Mind Controlled and trinketed in the last moment, causing the priest to j... : Marrbe
      • This is why I loved the Tier 3 lava BG in WAR. Order had knockbacks galore for lava punting :D : ArcKnight
• I tried leveling a death knight. I feel like playing but I don't feel like using my shaman (heals/ele) s... : rt702
• Cataclysm stuff : Zips
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  Ganked lowbie horde in old world between daily randoms/helping guildies. : stygian_whisper
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    Don't forget harassing RP fags! : paulatreus
    • No, I leave the RP fags be. I respect them for their dedication to a time-honored school of geekery. Like... : stygian_whisper
    • Also, log onto meebo, lovely boy! : stygian_whisper
• Ran instances with my army of alts. Jadaxtank, a DPS warrior got a few new craftables and DPS upgrades... : Entity
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  I managed to make a player really mad at me. A couple of the lower-level shackers were getting ganked in : action wombmate
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    I don't understand people who pay for 2 accounts - especially to play both sides of the factions on one s... : re-verse
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      You can have alliance and horde characters on the same server on the same account now. Went in quite some... : Entity
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        Only on pve servers though, right? : re-verse
        • nope. even on PvP servers. : electroly
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    tell him to get on his rogue and meet you at some far flung location in the zone. then when you dont show... : theWhite
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      His rogue was same-faction, he wanted to duel. Funny idea, but I'd probably grow tired of it before he w... : action wombmate
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        I'm always so amused by rogue players. They think they're god's gift to PVP, but only in situations where... : Entity
        • I LOVE coming across them on my hunter, or my pally. They get a serious case of dead real fast. :-D : MacemanInTW
  • hahahah i remember back in the day i would gank and camp and they would log off to log onto their other c... : inc77
• I resubbed the other day, and can't raid because both my gearscore is shit since I stopped properly playi... : -JLN-
• why are you not playing on mal'gainis with us other nerd shackers? p.s. why do all you guys play as girls : arcane_
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  Leveled my mage to 54. So close to Outland I can taste it. : overkill
  • I got my rogue to outland last night, and replaced my lvl40 daggers with lvl60 ones. Very nice improvemen... : re-verse
• I actually re-subbed, due to boredom. -- haven't even msged that new shack guild yet. I started an Orc... : eisencc
• whoever coredis is, I missed your message for the guild invite. Another way to get in to the guild, if... : re-verse
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  I ran ICC 25 on my Warrior and got shut out of Bryntoll, Deathbringer's Will and Festergut's Acidic Blood : Ajax
  • ...and I'm about to run ICC 10 in an hour. Going to try to clear the wing bosses tonight and then extend ... : Ajax
• This game is really boring for me. But being in a top 30 guild I can't bring myself to unsub so I just lo... : spectr3
• I started a new shammy a while back. I've tanked Gnomer, healed just about everything once or twice, and... : MacemanInTW

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  I doubt their active rfid so technical they are not transmitting but are being read. Someone with a power... : tested2
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    The range would only be a few feet and it would be about as useful as scanning a barcode. People are dumb... : MagicWishMonkey
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      They're probably only using 64-bit tags, anyway. There's no way they are putting a $5 active tag on a $5... : yonderboy
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        They aren't writing anything to the tags after the purchase, so it's not like there's any risk of persona... : MagicWishMonkey
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          You don't understand -- if somebody had a really powerful reader they could read what color your shirt wa... : boofy
          • Buy a metal garbage can. Problem solved! : yonderboy
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            hahah, I guess I didn't consider all of the sinister implications like that : MagicWishMonkey
            • WHAT HATH TECHNOLOGY WROUGHT!? : ChibiJosh
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      If they are what you say I can't understand the fuss, I was under the impression that they were long rang... : Tattoo Trav
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        People are retarded, I imagine there's a pretty big overlap between the "RFID IS EVIL!" and "OBAMA DON'T ... : MagicWishMonkey
        • i hardly think there's overlap between those crowds; we're talking about a dumb crowd and a privacy crowd... : yoonix
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  In theory the RFID tags were supposed to have been zapped/rendered non functional by a electrical charge ... : Fyunch Click
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    It pisses me off that privacy pussies are politicizing perfectly prime technology like this. : rosewood
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      agreed. There is some nice tech coming out of this stuff and everyone is panty bunching about it. These... : JuffoWup
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        They have wifi tags now? I figured they would use passive RFID and put a shitton of sensors around the... : MagicWishMonkey
        • I mean they use wireless to communicate to a central server that has a database on what the tag is to be ... : JuffoWup
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      Indeed, they are preemptively protesting a promising property of potential purchases. : Caoster007
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        It perturbs me that people postulate pointless propositions. : rosewood
        • You'd probably prefer they prod prodigiously porcine prostitutes? : daneloire
    • That was supremely alliterative! My hat off to you. : ChibiJosh
• i heard they are in the shopping carts so they can track your routes to see what order you buy things in ... : dignan
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  throw your clothes in the microwave for 15 seconds, problem solved : retardhumper
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    Or if you live in Texas just shoot the clothes a few times. : Goto10
    • Being a Texan I just do this anyways, YEEHAW : LoioshDwaggie
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      I'm not a Texan, but I have this sock that I enjoy shooting into... : spectr3
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        D: : chiisu81
        • Close your moth son, spectr3 has bad aim : rosewood
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  They aren't embedded in the clothes they are on an additional tag like the security tags that are current... : Crimsonbeak
  • http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/110152/wal-mart-radio-tags-to-track-clothing handy infograph... : Crimsonbeak
  • I bought some jeans at Old Navy that had a tag sewn into the inner seam. They forgot to deactivate it and... : dumb.
• How hard is to throw the tag in garbage? Are people really worried that some one is going through their ... : quazar
• this is why I microwave my underpants : drucifer
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  I don't care. Unless Wal-Mart has a guy following me around every day with an RFID scanner it makes mo di... : ColoradoCNC
  • but MARKETING PEOPLE could SCAN your GARBAGE and learn your SPENDING HABITS!!! : mikecyb
• RFID isn't exactly a cutting edge technology and even active rfid which requires a battery has an extreme... : D45hiz
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  Some major credit cards already have this technology and is used for convenience, simply waving the card ... : legato17
  • I definitely wouldn't want my personal information being broadcast out to anyone who might be aiming an E... : MagicWishMonkey
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X034R3yzDhw : Crimsonbeak
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  Isn't this a story that was revealed almost seven years ago by Slashdot? http://slashdot.org/yro/03/06/0... : the archvile
  • The idea was DOA. Proctor and Gamble told Wal-Mart to go fuck themselves, because even with the small co... : riptyde
• From what I read, it's a separate tag you can remove when you buy it, so I don't see a privacy concern. ... : DHAvatar
• From an inventory and ordering standpoint, this is a good thing. Wal Mart has an impressive ordering sys... : Xin Jing Client 1a
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  They are already tracking your purchases through online shopping, facebook, online banking (or using a CC... : not work safe
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    Who is "they" again? Those are different data sets. : dearjamie
    • "They" is whoever you buy stuff from. Just logging into amazon and viewing items creates metrics for the ... : not work safe
    • "they" are marketing companies who use your cookies, credit card purchases, and online guids and sell the... : twifosp
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  I'm going to make a mint with my new paper shredder with built in RFID zapper. : goatboy
  • bless you, I was just thinking the same thing : JuffoWup
• The range at which RFID tags can be scanned is very short. It's prohibitively expensive to try and track... : riptyde

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• Well that's a lot taller than I thought this post would be. Whoops. : Dong Patrol
• lol@high-res image : dirge23
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  that pictures has the word Jessica in it and I am afraid to click it. WS? : minigomp
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    Minecraft slumber party? : toilet
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      Let me show you my creeper. : Clasifyd
      • GAH!! : Matt Burris
  • There is slime all over the place in that image, maybe you should wait until you get home. : Dong Patrol
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    Hah, it's funny because it says Jessicas Slimber Povx8tovamw0ylb291d9k and that's just like Jessicas Slum... : Hemtroll
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      Hemtroll do you hate me now : Dong Patrol
      • It's cool bro, I don't hate. : Hemtroll
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  I found this giant natural cave system over the weekend about 5 layers up from bedrock. It's absolutely m... : Clasifyd
  • I am always crushed when I lose diamond, especially since I've only found 12 blocks in total across 90+ h... : Dong Patrol
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    Yea I'm exploring one of those type of caves right now. Whenever I think I've found the end, I'll be mini... : cgreeen
    • I'm still working through an extensive cave system. Probably logged ~6 hours on it as well. I've died ... : el_bandito
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  slimes are a bit out of control right now. they hit me through a wall a couple times. they showed up in ... : Draugluin
  • Notch has acknowledged that they're bugged, so I'd expect a fix soonish. : Helter Skelter
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  Where are saved worlds stored on your computer (playing downloaded minecraft)? : vitaminzach
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    users->username->appdate->roaming->.minecraft appdata is a hidden folder. : Supine
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      awesome. whoever described this as crack was spot-on. just one more little hit, then i'll stop... : vitaminzach
      • For me, it's been reliably touch-and-go. I'll start to get a little bored with it and then something awe... : Rotten Deadite
    • For a quick way to get there, type %appdata% in the Run or Win7 search box. : Matt Burris
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  Slime plushies! : Arcanum
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    Also, I'm not sure why, but I'm not having problems with slimes. I think I've seen a grand total of two ... : Arcanum
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      Neither am I. That picture is the equivalent to all the slimes I've ever seen. : Clasifyd
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        What difficulty are you playing on? What difficulty did you start on? : Arcanum
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          Normal and Normal : Clasifyd
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            Hmm. There goes that idea. I was thinking it might've been because I started on Peaceful and later turn... : Arcanum
            • I did this also. But now it seems any world I start from scratch after a couple nights I hardly see anyth... : thejay247
    • the second time I went down into my cave I probably killed 20 or so in well lit areas. various sizes : Draugluin
    • i've got a cave swarming with them directly under my main base :( : ass-street
    • Just wait. You will. : OverloadUT
• this game has prevented a lot of boredom for me in the last few days. the cave I posted about a few da... : Draugluin
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  Do torches stop water? My cave marker system failed me last night and I got hopelessly lost. I just wan... : gokwyjibo
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    No, they don't. Water isn't particularly realistic, it won't flood all the way up to ocean level as long ... : Zek
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      I've noticed the water isn't entirely realistic but in this case I punched a hole straight up. The water... : gokwyjibo
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        it kind of acts like the ground absorbs it. it doesn't really happen that way, but that's how it acts. ... : Draugluin
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          I wish he would rewrite it so that any water behaved more naturally so that digging into water means you ... : Nighteyes
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            That's how it originally was. (I like it this way.. sorry) : loboca
            • Then why change it? He even said he wants the game to be too difficult than too easy. I want minecraft to... : Nighteyes
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  I've never found a slime, nor any brick or clay. Do I need to start a new world to get the new stuff? : Rotten Deadite
  • Slimes seem to appear only at a certain depth beneath the ground, and new block types will only appear in... : ZTac
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    Every time new stuff gets pachced in, wander around in your existing world until new terrain is generated... : Dong Patrol
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      you can plant bamboo that's awesome : Draugluin
      • I think it's meant to be papyrus or something, not bamboo. : Zek
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      Crap. I was just starting to like my home base. : Rotten Deadite
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        There's no reason to abandon it! Just walk into a new area, grab what you need, and come back. I do this ... : Dong Patrol
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          Could happen... the day cycle's a little too short for any good exploration around my area, mostly becaus... : Rotten Deadite
          • Build a tunnel that starts underneath your base. Then you can mine at night and/or pop up various places... : passingstranger
      • Go harvest some new stuff, bring it back and plant your own crops. : loboca
    • i haven't found papyrus yet :( : ass-street
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  For those familiar with Cartographer, my exploration: http://loboca.shackspace.com/weekend.png (The rig... : loboca
  • Use sand on the sides which prevents the boat from breaking. : Matt Burris
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  bought this over the weekend, pretty addicting for such a simple game; one question... if I die, do I hav... : devpaul
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    If you die you'll respawn in the place you started. You can get your stuff back if you make it to your bo... : Zek
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      word of advice -- choose a direction, dig yourself an arrow in the dirt right at your spawnpoint to indic... : boring gegtik
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        a little late for that, hopefully my tower is high enough to see from afar; would be nice to be able to c... : devpaul
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          when you're rich you should build a minecar ride from the spawn back to your base : Sapiens
          • I started to do this until I found out how much Iron it required. : mrvandelay
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        unless you build a REALLY long ways away from your starting point (i can usually locate a promising place... : Sapiens
        • You have the tools and materials to make the arrow when you start a new world. Not so with the giant towe... : boring gegtik
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          thats what I did. Huge tower with torches and I can find my way from almost anywhere, especially at night : strandgeck
          • yep! also very useful if you head out to explore surrounding areas in a boat. : Sapiens
        • Instead of torches on your tall tower, just use a bucket with lava in it and put the lava at the top of t... : Matt Burris
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  I guess I missed the boat. But what is minecraft? :( : wangel
  • don't worry, you can craft your own boat. also, www.minecraft.net. : vitaminzach
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    Have you seen Inception? It is basically Limbo but with Lego blocks. : Dong Patrol
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      Ok, I understand that. But how are people finding "caves" ... is it multiplayer? Looks like the C... : wangel
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        When you start a game, it generates a world with mountains, lakes/seas, underground caves, etc. You can ... : Arcanum
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          so its MP or SP ? : dignan
          • Multiplayer is being developed right now (it's actually in private testing already) and might be out with... : Dong Patrol
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        Arcanum is pretty much dead-on; the "full" version of the game introduces a single player "adventure game... : Dong Patrol
        • Holy shit. for $12 it sounds worth it :D : wangel
    • hahah this is an awesome explanation. : crummynz
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  Initially started my first world on an string of islands. Had to level two or three islands before I foun... : fanax
  • Yeah, it can be pretty hit and miss sometimes. I'm working on a continent right now that apparently hate... : Rotten Deadite
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  I found a another epic branch of my supermassive cave. This one has slimes raining down on top of me. ... : ShadowRam
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    SIGNS Use them in your mines! Just stuff like (This is dead end) or (This way out) So useful when... : ShadowRam
    • Very, very true. I put signs with "EXIT" and an arrow at intersections. : Arcanum
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    just lovin the bling on the gold or is it functional in another way? I think if you put a circle of on... : Draugluin
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      I have no use for gold at all, so figure I'd make armour out of it : ShadowRam
      • Notch is going to be adding in "land claim flags" that mark an area of the map as being uneditable except : Dong Patrol
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    How do you find obsidian? I heard something about it only being formed when water hits lava but it ain't... : Rotten Deadite
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      Make sure the water goes on top of the lava. When they just meet up on the ground, seems not to work so m... : loboca
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        Can you actually do anything with obsidian besides make obsidian walls? It seems like you ought to be ab... : Arcanum
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          Not that I'm aware of. Just walls. : loboca
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            I've mined one block, just for the novelty. It's sitting in a chest somewhere. : loboca
            • I have well over 100 obsidian.. Haven't done anything with it. Doesn't do anything other than be really... : ShadowRam
    • It's supposed to be when generated lava meets generated water, as in you can't make it yourself, it's jus... : Clasifyd
    • Carry 1 bucket of water with you. Pour it just above any lava you find. Pick up the water again, after ... : ShadowRam
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    Hand grenades to kill baddies would be nice. : loboca
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      Can't you do TnT blocks or whatever? I haven't messed around with those yet. : Rotten Deadite
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        I made a couple to do blast mining. Digg a hole, drop it in. Reality is, the explosion isn't really b... : ShadowRam
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          It's not a big deal. You can just store it and then when you go back to your storage you can ssssssssSS... : Rotten Deadite
          • It seems I can make some jolly good items. Yes yes, I think I'll do that... : MercFox1
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  damn i wanted to play this last night... but my power was out. :( : Shadowdane
  • I feel for you :( : zuff
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  ok, so I should buy this? Good time waster at work? : wangel
  • It's as intrusive as a flash game, but continuous, and you can save the game at any time, but definitely ... : loboca
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  minecraft needs steamworks to save the game on different computers : kaddar0
  • Or dropbox.... : wangel
  • http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=17634 and a program: http://www.minecraftforum.net... : zuff
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  need help identifying something i found last night: http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=whatis_u6tigj... : harold.johnson
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    Clay. Put it in a furnace and it turns into bricks (which you can craft into blocks) : Clasifyd
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      Looks like gunpowder to me : ShadowRam
      • Gun powder is dark gray and also a pile, not a ball. : Clasifyd
  • Probably clay, which was just added. : loboca
  • thanks guys! : harold.johnson
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  I've played this game way too much in the past couple days. I started off slow, following one of the t... : zen2k
  • Hehe, ya, MPs gonna rock. : loboca
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  Here is my world so far: http://troz.shackspace.com/minecraft/day%202 My house it at the top of a tal... : TroZ
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    Nice tower, take a screenshot next time you get a chance. The minetracks lead anywhere interesting? : loboca
    • not yet. so far, they head out in different directions - hoping to get close to the big caves I've found... : TroZ
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    wow you've done a lot of exploring... i haven't ventured nearly that far from my home. I'm almost tempt... : Shadowdane
    • Don't forget, the world expands indefinitely, so there's always more resources. But I understand wanting ... : loboca
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  Saddles Yes they are in the game. Don't know if you can 'make' them. But I've found like 7 of them in... : ShadowRam
  • Dude, screenshot! I haven't found one yet :| : loboca
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    There are chests? : repeat2k
    • Yes, I find the best course of action when you find a mob spawner. Block it in immediately Break 1 bloc... : ShadowRam
  • No, you can't craft saddles; they only appear in treasure rooms. Also, pigs have interesting propertie... : ZTac
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  I died while deep as fuck in a cave to a bunch of slimes and lost my diamond sword, pickaxe and shovels a... : OverloadUT
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    1.0.12 just came out which apparently fixes some of the slime spawn problems. http://notch.tumblr.com/ ... : aethyr
    • FUCK dude, that was like 5min ago.. lol : ShadowRam
  • I've started putting chests all over the place, it pisses me off when I die as well... id love a teloport... : stonedonkey
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  are you 100% safe in your house? I've made one out of cobble stone and a wooden door. can anything break ... : strandgeck
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    Nothing can break in but be sure to put torches inside so nothing spawns in there : OverloadUT
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      I tried making a stone door yesterday and the damn thing wouldn't open. I put a wooden door in the same ... : Rotten Deadite
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        I didn't know you could make stone doors; I thought it was just wood and iron : OverloadUT
        • Sorry, I meant Iron. Yeah. : Rotten Deadite
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        Iron Doors require buttons/redstone/etc apparently. I haven't done anything with them yet to give exact ... : ShadowRam
        • This is correct, though I could only get a level on one side of the door to work at a time, essentially l... : Clasifyd
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          yeah, don't bother with iron doors unless you've got redstone. Without redstone you won't be able to wire... : ass-street
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            you can just make stone buttons or pressure plates instead. my current house is in a mountain and my min... : Sapiens
            • will a button work on both sides? i couldn't get a lever to work that way so i assumed buttons/p.plates w... : ass-street
      • i know with iron doors you need to make a switch or something to open it, maybe stone is the same way? : OhSnapHighFive
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    Creepers can blow up doors and walls. : zen2k
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      only if you set them off right? they dont just walk around exploding do they? will they explode if they w... : strandgeck
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        I had one walk up to my house right on the otherside of the wall and go off. He killed me. :( : Visceral Monkey
        • this is why i always build a small retaining wall around the house. : ass-street
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  Hmm, I think it's live http://www.livestream.com/mojang : loboca
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    No, it should say live in red on player otherwise it's prerecorded. : kaankasim
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      So, it just randomly plays previous 'episodes'? : loboca
      • I think so. : kaankasim
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    i keep getting a commerical every 10 seconds : strandgeck
    • every 5 seconds here? what gives? : spyrext
  • Woah, he died to flowing lava. Not the lava that we're used to, but it just kept coming. : loboca
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  My fort's coming together alright: New Underground Study: http://www.shackpics.com/files/Screenshot20... : zuff
  • I like how everyone's fort (including my own) has crenellations. : repeat2k
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  Survival MP streaming on BroCraft now: http://brocraft.net/minecraft.html They were juggling mud a sec... : zuff
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    He's back in! It looks like so much fun. : zuff
    • I'M ON A BOAT : loboca
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      Oh man, there are going to be so many ways to grief. : loboca
      • Hahha, he just drowned Notch. : LoioshDwaggie
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    NOTCH just joined into the game, LoL. : LoioshDwaggie
    • lol and the guy streaming just killed him by drowning. : zuff
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    My biggest fear about multiplayer minecraft is that it looks easier. I'd like to have multiplayer minecr... : kaddar0
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      Easier to do what? Build a house? If 4 people are building a house instead of one it's naturally going to... : zuff
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        yeah, building a house, surviving against creeps, digging tunnels out, getting diamond axes. I want gett... : kaddar0
        • well I still think it will be. I highly doubt that mineral deposits will multiply because of more players... : zuff
  • LOL this is chaos. : Code RedBeard
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  OK OK OK. I am playing this game, and now the WIFE is playing.... As of Sunday my 6 year old is pla... : james_austintx
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    Just wait til you run your own server and you never have to talk to them again. Can just talk in game fro... : loboca
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      Just wait until your kid floods your spawn point and chain-drowns you. : Arcanum
      • Ya, your spawn point ends up being 50 blocks above ground. Oops. : loboca
      • Yes, but you at least have the option of punching them in RL. : ShadowRam
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      Then one day he starts up the game to see "IM CHEATING ON YOU" in 20-block-high obsidian letters in front... : ZTac
      • that would suck, but would lead to freedom and more minecraft : james_austintx
  • My wife, brother, mother are not hardcore into this game. : ShadowRam
  • My 6/yo daughter loves playing creative mode - I wish they'd open a creative option in the Alpha for her ... : dumb.
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  Multiplayer, how will it work? Player inventory: saved on the server for each player? Public or Passw... : Code RedBeard
  • starting out i imagine survival multiplayer will work much like it currently does for creation mode : Sapiens
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    I really hope there will be ways to "protect" an area. Like a special kind of rock you can place that oth... : OverloadUT
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      His todo list shows land claim flags so others cant build/destroy stuff in that area : mrvandelay
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        That's a pretty good implementation. It would be funny to figure out where someone is mining, build a tun... : OverloadUT
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          my favourite griefing in the old 'god mode' was to drill a massive 3x3 hole down to bedrock centered arou... : boring gegtik
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            that and sponge-hunting, destroying all sponges in an underground base and flooding it : boring gegtik
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              oh and surreptitiously hiding sponges in places where people wanted water to exist : boring gegtik
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                gegtik, you're an asshole. : Clasifyd
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                  the thought has crossed my mine : boring gegtik
                  • >=[ : Clasifyd
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  Repost from a previous Minecraft thread in case anyone missed it (I don't remember who originally linked ... : Sapiens
  • Thats awesome... : james_austintx
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    that's awesome. i wish i could find enough iron to make anything. i always find like 4 blocks of it and n... : ass-street
    • It doesn't appear in large patches. Iron, gold, and diamonds all appear in small clusters typically 2x2 a... : Code RedBeard
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  I just got this game two seconds ago and now I'm trying to get a pickaxe to mine ore (that's what it does... : Hemtroll
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    put chopped wood in there to make lumber, then put lumber in all 4 squares to make a workbench, place the... : Sapiens
    • cool, thanks! : Hemtroll
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  Mining Patterns for optimal pick & time usage: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7354829/Minecraft/Mining_Patterns... : Code RedBeard
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    I am kinda confused at what I am looking at. : james_austintx
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      It's a map of mining patterns, looking from the top down... White = mined blocks (stone, dirt, gravel)... : Code RedBeard
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        And the numbers? : Clasifyd
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          "total number and the proportion of blocks that must be broken" : Draugluin
          • Hey, shut up. : Clasifyd
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        What about this 3 x 3 top down method? http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=20077#p364... : james_austintx
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          That's the second one he lists. It misses the center block, though, so you're potentially missing some st... : Clasifyd
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            So whats the best method for Survival on Hard difficulty...? :) : james_austintx
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              Build a bunker and cower in fear as night comes. : Clasifyd
              • Bingo. : Rotten Deadite
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    can you scale down that picture a bit? : zuff
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      also, repost it on shackpics...dropbox is blocked at work :( : ass-street
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        http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=Mining_Patterns_lry0q0o1fsdsw7wbak03.png : Code RedBeard
        • awesome thanks :) : zuff
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    the nice thing about the 3X3 method that I can see is that it's totally interconnected, so you could just... : aethyr
    • Also looks like you could chip out one block from the floating blocks to see whats inside if you wanted..... : james_austintx
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  New player here. What's the big draw with diamonds? Is the speed and durability increase on them really... : passingstranger
  • You can mine obsidian. Speed and durability is increased. : VectorJKL
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    Yes the durability is fucking huge. First thing you build should be a diamond sword, because you'll start... : OverloadUT
    • I find I die and lose my crap enough that I'm way too afraid to make a diamond anything. : crummynz
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  What's the best/easiest way to start building/laying blocks in the water? I got lost in a cave last nig... : gokwyjibo
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    build a pier out to the entrance and drop sand/gravel on the edge of one of the blocks. It'll drop to th... : Clasifyd
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      Like this: http://www.shackpics.com/files/Untitled_zwihsc408woampbjmy9f.jpg : Clasifyd
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        Yep, gravel is the best for reforming a lake or river. I used a shitload of gravel to block off a lava la... : OverloadUT
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          Thanks guys. Nice pic too! :) I didn't realize that sand/gravel would sink so you've probably saved me... : gokwyjibo
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            What's better for underwater building is doors. They stop water, even when open. : mroizo40
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              Whoa that's awesome and I am going to start using that : OverloadUT
              • Do your digging while standing on the air side and you'll dig faster than if you're in the water : mroizo40
            • I'm confused...how and where are you using doors? : gokwyjibo
  • sand and gravel fall, so if you can build a bridge over the top of where you want to drop stuff, you can ... : boring gegtik
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  Latest underwater expansion view from a boat. http://www.shackpics.com/files/underwater_expansion_18i4wd : DrZettl
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    christ that's huge : crummynz
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      Give me an idea of what to build in that expansion tunnel I started. The other issue I have is that th... : DrZettl
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        As far as the ramp goes, without anyway to propel the cart except for gravity it is going to be hard to g... : VectorJKL
        • The cart runs great from the starting base to the door of the underwater base. It just craps out half way... : DrZettl
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    Can you grow trees underwater? that might be a pretty cool addition to your base : Baba Ghanoush
    • I think trees will grow anywhere there is a patch of dirt and torches nearby. : aethyr
    • I have a tree planted in the grow op on the right side. It's not growing yet, and I may have to make some... : DrZettl
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    How do you develop underwater? I mean, do you lay down glass in a descending circle and then scoop out t... : Rotten Deadite
    • My original post on starting out. http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23545582#itemanchor_23545582 On... : DrZettl
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      I tried one for the first time over the weekend and had a pretty easy time by placing the ceiling and top... : ZTac
      • Do you find that when you're in the water, the visibility is totally crap vs. looking through the water? : DrZettl
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  So my roomamte decided to jump into a mp server in classic mode with me. Instantly he started griefing th... : VectorJKL
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    tell him to stop being a faggot? : mavmavv
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      done. what next? : VectorJKL
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        haxor the router to block is ips from the ports. : mavmavv
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          I just signed him up for a gay newsletter and magazine. His wife will be surprised. : VectorJKL
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            You live with them? Fuck the wife. : loboca
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              No we are in a hotel right now. Away from our familes. : VectorJKL
              • Shit in his pillow case. : Clasifyd
  • Hit him over the head with a cobblestone block. For real. : dumb.
  • ban his ip : ass-street
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  Grr when I die I rage so hard.. I was trying to close one of the stupid block spawners and got mobbed ...... : stonedonkey
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    by close do you mean that you were trying to surround it? This doesn't work, you have to destroy it. This... : VectorJKL
    • Maybe he wants to save the spawner in case we wants to build a trap. : trove
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      Well damn I didn't know you could kill them... i have a few diamonds in my cache time to go back after th... : stonedonkey
      • Good luck. : VectorJKL
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  I'm done with the minecart now, I just want to return to mining. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbC-dP... : kaankasim
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    how did you go to 3rd person view? : ass-street
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      f5 : kaankasim
      • :O cool! : ass-street
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    Did you cheat to get all the iron needed to make all that?? : OverloadUT
    • No, i found alot of iron during mining and you get 16 tracks for 6 iron anyway, i think i used about 64 i... : kaankasim
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    how did you make a video of the game? Fraps? : TroZ
    • Yes. Full-size, 30 fps as the settings. Then i transcoded to reduce size before sending to youtube. : kaankasim
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  New update! Slimes fixed! * Big slimes no longer spawn in peaceful * Slimes have sounds now! * Fixed... : VectorJKL
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    I went home at lunch and patched then, but there were a buttload of slimes in my well-lit mine, all sizes... : dnagenome
    • Are you set to peaceful? : OverloadUT
    • Did you get them wet? : CRasterImage
  • so he didnt' fix them spawning in well lit areas in normal mode? :( : Draugluin
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  Has NOTCH ever mentioned something like a locomotive to run on the mine cart tracks? Something that burns... : rick
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    He's talked about having powered mine carts. : MercFox1
    • Oh god I cannot fucking wait for future updates to this game : OverloadUT
    • The crafting pattern clue he's mentioned is a furnace. Which makes total sense. Tack a furnace onto a ca... : DrZettl
  • heh heh, thatd be sweet. : loboca
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  i've seen people post maps of their worlds here, how do you generate those? : pandastrong
  • http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=13134 : dirtboxer
  • http://minecraft.net/infdev/preview.jsp : daedraug
  • thanks! : pandastrong
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  Anyone else cook cobblestone to make stone building blocks just because they look nicer? : rick
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    Yeah, cobble looks too dark in some cases. And when you've got tons of coal and don't need more glass or... : dirtboxer
    • Fuck, imagine if you had to wait at the forge while it...forged stuff for you. : rick
    • Yeah, I like having stuff "automated" like that, now if only I could get an automated rock-mining machine... : Code RedBeard
  • But cobblestone looks so castle-like. : crummynz
  • Yes. : Zollington
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    Wait what is cobblestone? Is that just regular stone that you use to make tools? : OverloadUT
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      yes - you can forge it into pretty "gray stone" - Looks a bunch better! http://www.minecraftwiki.net/i... : Theos
      • It'd be smart if the forged stone made better tools. : dumb.
• Glass Roof for the giggles, looks nice at night http://www.shackpics.com/files/Capture726201055533PM_... : stonedonkey
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  I haven't seen any bamboo in my world. Would it not grow in my snowy map for any reason? : passingstranger
  • Might not because of ice instead of water. : Zollington
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  How do you make glass? : Magnetsrhard
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    Sand in a furnace. : Arcanum
    • Realized what i was doing wrong. I thought sand was the only thing that fell. Turns out gravel does too a... : Magnetsrhard
  • Cook sand : Fooldozer
• Anyone have a working tree farm? : Theos
• How do you install HD textures? Everytime I try to edit the files it gives me an error. : Nighteyes

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  Thank god Eurogamer read through that crap on VG247 to get the actual bit of news there so I wouldn't hav... : beanman101283
  • I know, fuck it's a pile of retarded self-indulgent shite. : node
• that sounds like fun! : ErneX
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  As in, Hollywood and not Los Santos? Interesting : RikiTiki2
  • The actual news is that they're researching Hollywood (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/rockstar-definit... : gingerninja
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  aww no vice city? boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... : spiderfill
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    Vice City was a fun game but the landscape was flat and boring. : riptyde
    • i just love the 80s is all : spiderfill
    • You will not speak ill of the greatest GTA game! : baron calamity
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      Vice City had the best music of all the GTA games. : FormerHPB
      • agreed : jonin
      • hehe. I have the GTA Vice soundtrack for Independance FM in GTA IV. : baron calamity
      • definitely : riptyde
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        Absolutely, by a huge margine. : thetangent
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          Or, margin even. : thetangent
          • Or margarine : CRasterImage
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        Without question. : pgharavi
        • It's like the Forrest Gump of video game soundtracks! : pgharavi
      • Yeh but GTA 3 and VC are basically digital rubbish now, that shitty motorbike and swimming code can fuck ... : abrasion
      • FALSE. the 80s blew, admit it! : mikecyb
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        negative. San Andreas did. : biskits
        • Not even close. It wasn't too bad, but way too much crap mixed in with the good stuff. : thetangent
      • Vice City was the only GTA game I ever really got into (other than 1 and 2). The music and setting was so... : chrisschutz
      • San Andreas and Vice City still tie for best GTA game IMHO. Vice City for style and music, San Andreas f... : spazzium
    • Yeah, they did a fantastic job representing South Florida. : ucanbfuzzy
    • YOU'RE flat and boring! Vice City was fucking fantastic. : thetangent
    • Florida is flat. : Metatron85
    • This. : thejm4n
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  I'm playing GTA IV currently and I'm making a serious attempt to finish it. I always lost interestts shot : baron calamity
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    You will learn to loathe getting caught on geometry when you start zipping around the city on a crotch ro... : Omaha
    • the bikes got way better in TLATD : spiderfill
  • Yeah, I'm overwhelmed by it. I'll almost certainly never even come close to finishing it although I'll ma... : Attica Blue
  • you're only like 15% of the way through the game : RikiTiki2
  • me too, finished some boss missions and another boss icon just pops up and more missions, game puts me at... : dael
• I will do horrible things for this game. : abrasion
• Vinewood? : Happy Doodle Muffin
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  Huh, ironically I was just telling a friend yesterday that I didn't really expect to see a full GTAIV seq... : Begawkiness
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    The next console round is probably about 4-6 years away though. :) : enyakk
    • Very true : Begawkiness
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    GTA 3, Vice City, and SA were all on PS2. We already had GTA IV and Lost episodes. I expect 1 or 2 more G... : baron calamity
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      It seemed to me like the eps were basically this gen's Vice City/SA, but I guess I was wrong! : Begawkiness
      • haha, why would you even think that : papaskot
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    Immensely excited about SR3 also. I loved the tone, characters and gameworld of the 2nd, another chance t... : geedeck
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      I need to play Saints Row 2 someday. I own 3 copies of it so there really isn't an excuse anymore. :\ : baron calamity
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        if one of those copies is on the PC - do not play it. : dedgecko
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          Two of them actually. One was a boxed copy I got on clearance at target and another i got bundled with so... : baron calamity
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            Throw it away. : CrustaR
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              How bad could it be? : baron calamity
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                Think: Crossing the streams. : ryuuseki
                • This, exactly. I didn't even get through the character creation screen before it blew up. : Dschinghis Khan
              • Trust me. : CrustaR
            • It's really not that bad. I enjoyed the PC version quite a bit. : ysbreker
          • Play the console one. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • completely with you here. I fucking loved SR and SR2 and cant wait to jump back in with SR3 : Degenerate
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      This ^^^ : Mad Brahmin Disease
      • Has there been any talk of mixing Geo Mod 2.0 with Saints Row from Volition? : dedgecko
  • I hope they learned some new shit with RDR : pun][sher
• Sweet! I think I'll go 360 this time around though. : BlockheadBrown
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  Whatever they do with the next one, I hope they can settle on either batshit lunacy or serious crime dram... : Happy Doodle Muffin
  • I hope they lean more towards batshit lunacy. : baron calamity
• Now with 100% more babysitting your acquaintances in lame ass minigames instead of terrorizing the street... : Dynotaku
• I'd like to see more empire building like in Vice City and more customization. The clothing options were ... : ryuuseki
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  Wonder if they will use the same motion capture wavy arms man for all the cutscenes again. : Beady
  • They really need to review Volition's mocap. Volition > Rockstar hands down. : dedgecko
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  I would love it if it were set in the 50's or 60's. Back when the mob was moving to Las Vegas from the c... : Thresher
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    Has any game done 1950s vegas? That seems to be a awesome time period and place. : baron calamity
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      Fallout New Vegas is doing 50's Vegas with robuts. : Crimsonbeak
      • \m/ : Degenerate
      • Which is cool but it isn't going to be the real 1950s vegas. : baron calamity
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  You sure it is GTA and not just L.A. Noire? : Crimsonbeak
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    How much of 1940s hollyword still exists? : baron calamity
    • hollywood even. : baron calamity
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      There are certain landmarks, the topography is still mostly the same. I am not doubting it could be for ... : Crimsonbeak
      • Wasn't LA Noire in production before GTA IV was? : baron calamity
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  God, I'm so tired of NYC and LA as settings for GTA games. Why not London / Paris / Tokyo / etc? : ChibiJosh
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    Why not DC? : baffula
    • No one wants to drive in DC. Not even video game characters. : baron calamity
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      oh god yes... they need to make sure to put in the beltway so I can run some fuckers off the road. : Shadowdane
      • Yes!! And they need to have the bastards on the motorcycles flying by so I can have some target practice... : baffula
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        and play sniper from half a mile away : retardhumper
        • This man knows whats up. : baffula
        • lol : feek
    • I can't imagine the media backlash of being able to start a shooting spree in the white house. : Crimsonbeak
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      Why not Fallujah? : The Grolar Bear
      • Cause throwing rocks is only but so fun. : baffula
    • only if they make Brucie's pad where I live. : gmd
    • Because it's no fun when EVERYONE is a criminal : locater16
    • Because it would be a Beltway traffic jam simulator. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • Get ready for 8 lane city streets but you get actually drive down one because the other 3 are being used ... : classicfork
  • I think the GTA series since 3 is so built around ignorant america I'm not sure it can translation to ano... : baron calamity
  • I want GTA Detroit '88 where all the cop cars are blacked out Ford Tauruses. : Crabs Jarrard
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    I would love to see a present day GTA London game. Especially since the creators and developers of the se... : pyide
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      I've read that the GTA creators have no sense of humor about themselves at all. So it might not work. : baron calamity
      • Somebody already made a humorless modern-day GTA London, though. It was called The Getaway. : Happy Doodle Muffin
  • GTA: Blade Runner : mr.sleepy
  • Test Drive Unlimited 1 and 2! Hawaii and ibiza Spain! : not work safe
  • London, Paris, Munich everyone talk about pop music. : Dschinghis Khan
  • I think its harder to parody most other cultures. Except maybe London, I think it would be difficult to ... : soggybagel
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    It needs to be on the Moon. John Madden John Madden John Madden John Madden John Madden John Madden ... : sanchez
    • brbrbrbrbrbbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbrbr : baron calamity
    • aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aeiou aei... : moe6
    • uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu : Lucien Irenicus
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      Here comes another chinese earthquake : Slowtreme
      • that fucking kills me now : NexusOne
    • Nine nine nine....nine nine nine.... : CrustaR
  • Cos Tokyo's desired lighting effects would kill all 360's and would make it then impossible to port to PS... : moe6
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    Grand Theft Auto: North Korea : phate81
    • those NK traffic directing women are hot : retardhumper
    • they could just re-use all the textures from quake2 : busdriver3030
    • if you replace the main character in Prototype with Kim Jong-il I'd imagine that's would be a pretty good... : mikecyb
    • lewl. I would pre-order this then cancel it : Delaric
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      Mercenaries! : Rampancy
      • Exactly what I was thinking. : sigpro
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      You would always have a five star wanted level : Metatron85
      • You would technically have six stars. The sixth star being nuclear strikes on you. It would always be t : Delaric
    • they'd just have to re-skin and re-voice RDR lol : jimmy-buffett
    • Hans Brix? Oh no! : retardhumper
  • Fuck that I can't wait till they are doing GTA:Eastern Seaboard and GTA:Pacific Northwest. : AgentPothead
  • http://www.rockstargames.com/gtalondon/ : Deathlove
• Meh, I want them to go back and do GTA London again that was awesome. : abjectblitz
• I heard Mel Gibson is the main character. : HL3dsx
• As far as I'm concerned this is good news. With the engine upgrade that occurred for GTA 4 I don't care ... : soggybagel
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  Yessssssssssssssssssssss : Godhatesfatpeople
  • I hope this means it will be an updated San Andreas right? Like what they did with Liberty City in IV. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  After watching this new Boardwalk Empire trailer I want a GTA game set in the 20s. http://www.hbo.com/bo... : Nitrium
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    LA Noire :) : Godhatesfatpeople
    • It almost seems like it doesn't really exist. : pimpium
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    Seriously, GTA set during Prohibition in Kansas City or Atlantic City would be awesome. : Modica Sol Solis
    • Go play Mafia : dedgecko
• I hope they bring back car surfing for GTA V. : baron calamity
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  let me guess, you're a down trodden immigrant with a good heart that manages to murder half the worlds fu... : chazums
  • spoilers!!! : scottythejock
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    What if you were a white guy and one of your missions was to sit at SBUX, sip a frap, and play on your iP... : pgharavi
    • they made that game already. They called it The Sims. : tometome
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    I hope it's about a fresh faced midwestern kid with high aspirations of being an actor who has to turn to... : freshyk
    • That is shacknews the game. : baron calamity
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      So it's a waiter training simulator? : Mad Brahmin Disease
      • GTA: Party Down : freshyk
  • and that is why i think i'm done with R* games. even RDR had that same feel. : biskits
  • buuuurrrrrnnnn. : bakanoodle
  • Yeah...and what of it? : virus
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    let me guess, you're a _______ with a _______ that manages to ______________ in a series of ____________ : Godhatesfatpeople
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      let me guess, you're a Price a Katamari that manages to roll shit up in a series of variously scaled mis... : crummynz
      • fuck. a Prince with a Katamari : crummynz
      • Katamari in a GTA world would be hilarious. hearing the shit people say while flailing & attached to the... : jimmy_legs
    • Congratulations, you stripped all the descriptive words from the sentence and ended up with something non... : Felraiser
  • I think it would be awesome if the whole game was you being wanted. Like actively pursued if people recog... : h o s t i l e
  • Best summary of any GTA ever. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• Vegas would've been better. Maybe they're saving that one. : Magus
• GTA: Police : Marrbe
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  GTA: Dating and Bro simulator : mista mista
  • MY COUSIIIN! : locater16
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  GTA V: _jon screams "DON'T GET ME STARTED!" : Maddog_Delphi97
  • GTA V: buckAAAAAAHHHHH! : ConsFEARacy
• awesome : PixelPie
• I don't think that sounds too exciting. Didn't they kind of do the night life/movie star thing in San And... : at0micgarden
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  Still waiting for GTA: Winnipeg. : jayares
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    ate 1 whale blubber platter: +1 fatness & +1 attractiveness : Degenerate
    • .... yes! Winnipeg is the car theft capital of canada, we should have a gta game :( : jayares
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    Still waiting for GTA: Greater Toronto Area : trelain
    • Hell yes. And the GTA: GTA: Scarborough Stories addon. : dumb.
    • Greater Detroit Area : tometome
  • you'll try to steal a car, but then you'll realize it's buried in snow and that it wouldn't start anyways... : Postal
  • GTA: Winnipeg GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0id9fUYb95A : Postal
• I wish they would set it outside of the U.S. London or Tokyo would be fun. : Nighteyes

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  Yakuza 3. They have really good recaps of the Yakuza 1 and 2 stories in the game. : doctorbfunk
  • yeah, play Yakuza 3 - I never played 1 or 2 and the recaps filled me in well enough to feel good about ju... : mo13
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  Okami if you haven't played it and dig Zelda style games with overworld exploration and dungeons and powe... : pyide
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    Wait, okami has dungeons, power ups and like Zelda structure to it? : warcrow
    • Um... yes. It does. : kallanta
    • Oh yeah. It's an awesome Zelda-esque game. : Modica Sol Solis
    • Uhh, yes, yes, and yes! I can't speak for the Wii version as I played the original on the PS2, but I ... : pyide
    • Yep! It's about twice as long as it should be, but it's still pretty damn good. : Ecks
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      It's like Zelda but without the rigid structure and better combat. : omnova
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        ...is it very heavy in dialog? : warcrow
        • Yes. The intro I remember being quite damn long. : Ecks
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          It's been a while but I believe it was. : omnova
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            ;-/. : warcrow
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              It's not bad at all. You are thinking of playing MGS4 again for fucks sake and all the dialogue in Okami ... : pyide
              • Yea that makes sense. Whats the total length do you think? : warcrow
    • Holy crap I have a new must-play game on my list! : dumb.
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  I'd avoid Eternal Sonata. I played it for about 20-30h, and while I am one to finish games, that one REA... : jimmy_legs
  • Yea, that's sorta what I gathered. Thanks for the heads up. : warcrow
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  Ratchet & Clank is fun and just the right length. : ThrillKill
  • ^^^^^^ I'm eagerly awaiting the Sly Cooper HD series for more platforming goodness. : happynoodle
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    Am I broken if I hate these games? It might be partially due to the order I played them in - Crack in Tim... : Head Rush
    • I play in intervals. A lot of it can get repetitive, but the over the top style of Ratchet and Clank is w... : happynoodle
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  Get past the trash dump area in Final Fantasy 13 and it just keeps getting better from there. More so if... : cetra00
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    How far in is the trash dump area? : warcrow
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      About 4 hours in I believe....which I know is lol but for the most part this is when the 'tutorial' ends ... : cetra00
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        I suppose that's not so bad. Hrm. How long us the game in total? : warcrow
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          don't believe him, almost everyone says around 20-30 hours before they felt like it got decent : mo13
          • This is correct. It is about 15 hours in where the world opens up and a few hours after that before you r... : Magnetsrhard
          • The only people that say that are people that have an issue with the linear levels. The game is stil... : cetra00
• I am thinking of replaying MSG4 as well.....I thought it was a fun game. I would add that Ratchet and... : K0LM
• Dust off your PS2 and play through Valkyrie Profile 2 like I am right now. Fun game. : cpt_gloval
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  50 Cent is so much fun. I'd play FFXIII and break up the first ten hours or so with some Blood in the San... : Head Rush
  • Dude, this might be a genius idea. : warcrow
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  Out of the games you haven't played, I would probably just get drunk and play 50 Cent. : h o s t i l e
  • Hehe, can you explain why? : warcrow
• Okami probably (I haven't played it but heard good things about it) or 50 cent. FFXIII is slow to star... : TheVietSpecial
• 50 Cent is great fun and about 6-8 hours long. Might as well do that first! : Delithio
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  How dare you call Bioshock 2 awesome?!!! May the shack haters rain down unrelenting ridicule on your sou : coyoterys
  • Hehe, yea. : warcrow

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• I've seen it 3 times already. When is the BR coming out? :) : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Seeing it tonight at IMAX! : node
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    Amazing experience in IMAX. Highly recommended. : MercFox1
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      i wish IMAX wasn't an hour away :( : vov1n
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        It's 15 minutes away by train for me! \o/ Fuck I love my new place. : node
        • i'd definitely see more if it was 15 min away, but the drive and then the ticket price, i'll stick with t... : vov1n
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  why is the loud noise in the dream the same one as that doomsday weapon in 1940's japan from CoD (or was ... : multisync
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    World at War I think you mean. : deject
    • so wrong, what a noob. : deject
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    You mean BC2? : MercFox1
    • yea that ! : multisync
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    Because Edith Piaf is from the same time frame. : dedgecko
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      Anyone know the significance of picking Edith Piaf? : iambinksy
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        Marion Cotillard played both Mal in Inception and Edith Piaf in La Vie en Rose. : HamChowder
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          I don't think that was intentional by Nolan though. : choppp
          • Yes, no relation in that regard. : lodit
      • Non, je ne regrette rien = No, I regret nothing : lodit
    • Speak English - what? : multisync
  • hahah i noticed that too when i first saw it. : choppp
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  My favorite part was when the van was rolling over. : gibolas1234
  • Yeah Arthur fighting that projection while "down" was rotating around the corridor was awesome as shit. : deject
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    Yeah that and the anti gravity bit were awesome. : Arctic Fox
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      That part was incredible, I really hope they have a bunch of behind the scenes stuff on the DVD/BD showin... : Nerdsbeware
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        there's some brief shots in here about it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=685R2P6j26E : indosauros
        • Very awesome. Thanks! : Nerdsbeware
      • If you have HBO on demand, they have a 15 minute behinds the scene special as well where they actually sh... : Dimmona
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    My only problem with that bit was why the 'kick' of the van rolling over didn't wake any of them up, espe : Arctic Fox
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      In regards to going off the bridge, that was supposed to kick them but if it failed that was what the wat : Begawkiness
      • The montage is actually what made me wonder :) In that montage he specifically says that the sedatives ar : Arctic Fox
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      they go over this very quickly in the movie.. they must synchronize the kicks for it to work. the van rol : wimpy1
      • Good explanation : gijoehosaphat
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  43 this weekend its got some legs : spiderfill
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    Yeah, usual drop-off is around 60%, what was this time, about 30%? That's a good sign. : trOmblyj
    • itd be fun to be able to measure what percentage of that is 2nd time viewers : spiderfill
  • Not sure about anyone else, but i've been telling everyone to see this movie, seen it a couple times alre... : sreyes22
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  Question: When he and his wife are in limbo, why couldn't he have just killed her and himself to get out : bcyde
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    Because he thought he could only get her out safely was to get her to first accept that the world they we : riptyde
    • I don't think that was it. I thought he said he tried but he couldn't bring himself to kill her. Hence th : dodob
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    I was wondering about that too and someone told me that if you are killed in limbo your brain can't make : twifosp
    • Was that actually explained somewhere or just what someone inferred? : bcyde
    • I don't recall them specifically saying that your brain can't make sense of it as a result of the manner : riptyde
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  Was there anything after the credits? My wife swore that she heard something when leaving the theatre, bu... : Arctic Fox
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    I don't think so. I lost a ring and hung around to find it but all I heard was the music slipping into Ed : Alice O'Connor
    • There was nothing. (At least not at the showing I watched) : thejay247
• i just saw this it might be a repost but it is a pretty cool interview with dicrapio... http://profit.nd... : .frame
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  Boxofficemojo has a comparison on numbers between inception and the matrix series over 10 days http://ww... : stgdz
  • everyone was drawn in by the hype..look at how poorly the third matrix did in comparison. : deathofrats
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    Reloaded had potential but I think they got too caught up in trying to out-do themselves on the "cool" fa... : riptyde
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      Say what you will, but I thought the visuals of Reloaded were amazing. The semi's colliding, the Neo vs ... : dedgecko
      • Ditto. Shame about the surrounding plot. : node
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  question: how did they get the dream machines into the multi-level dreams??? : vassili_zaitsev
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    IIRC each dream level was architected by one of the team members, so they put it in there. Level 1 was A : riptyde
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      No, Ariadne designed all of the levels. She just taught them to Yusuf, Arthur, and Eames (the dreamers). : coldfusioncs
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        How do they assign dreamers? : HamChowder
        • They just pick someone. It's probably a specialty that people can develop. : OverloadUT
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  Saw it for the second time yesterday (first movie I've ever seen twice in a theater). I have to say, see : foo
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    Also: When he sees his kids at the end, they are the same age and wearing the same clothes as the last ti : riptyde
    • No they are older, they are even credited as different actors playing them for the different age ranges : nodebug
    • I love when people think this despite the fact that it's even different actors : OverloadUT
    • You could also explain the kids at the end by reasoning that he never got out of the dream and he's stuck... : Arctic Fox
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    Also the scene were he gets stuck between two buildings And his wife being across the alley when shit ju : .frame
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      I would imagine woman dead on the ground + husband up in destroyed room would be enough for suspicion. I : riptyde
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        lol ok that is true, but what about being stuck between the buildings? : .frame
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          I'm at a loss as to which scene you are referring to. : riptyde
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            when he is running from the dudes in africa. He starts running between two buildings but gets stuck just : .frame
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              It was just two buildings close together : OverloadUT
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                Sure could be! That is one of the things I liked about the movie so much. So many ways to look at thing... : .frame
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                  "So many ways to look at things" sounds like an excuse to interpret meaning where there is none. : OverloadUT
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                    really? how are you so sure where meaning should be placed in a movie like this? : .frame
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                      dotframe, SOMETIMES A BUILDING IS JUST A BUILDING. Mombasa was not a dream. : MercFox1
                      • WELL SOMETIMES IT ISN'T!! :) : .frame
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                    There is so much of this regarding this movie it's kind of ridiculous. : Halen
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                      It's exactly the same as real-life conspiracy theories. "Those buildings are close together, so it must m... : OverloadUT
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                        Only an American would think buildings that close together is an unusual thing. :D : riptyde
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                          yes but you do have to admit the whole chase scene by nameless organization felt like the same kind of ch... : deathofrats
                          • That was the only point I was trying to make. It all seemed so surreal to me. I guess I just don't have... : .frame
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                            That's why it's all a dream. As stated by DiCaprio - you never start a dream at the beginning - it's alw : dedgecko
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                              but it doesn't start the middle, he tells Arthur he is going to Mombasa to see Eames, and that he knows C : lodit
                              • That's not where it starts. It starts in the middle of someone else' dream, and goes from there... Hell : dedgecko
              • Exactly, he got stuck because he was in a panic, then he twisted to minimize his profile, and made it. : umcpwintermute
            • I just chalked that up to it being a movie, really. People are always showing up at overly convenient ti... : riptyde
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    To be fair, he was the only white person in the place AND he came racing in there. Staring is natural. : umcpwintermute
    • I think that was some black only place, hence the mans annoyance at him being there and asking for a coff... : nodebug
  • so the dude busts into a coffee shop, gets yelled at by the owner for taking someone's seat (the owner ma : Supine
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    What nice about this movie is that if you want it to be a dream it can be. I do not think it was all a : fadetofunk
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      But the whole point of the totems was that it only worked if you were the only one who knows how it is su : riptyde
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        That's why the top wasn't his real totem. The wedding band was. : coldfusioncs
        • wut : Arctic Fox
        • Then why would he spin the top when he gets home to his kids? : riptyde
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          no...his memory of his kids were he totem..the fact that he never let anyone see his kids faces was a tel... : deathofrats
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            Interesting... : OverloadUT
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              I thought the same thing. Multiple times in the movie he turned away from his kids faces, when Mal calls : MercFox1
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                no it's the surest indication that he knows that he's not in anyone else's dream. The top is mal's totem... : deathofrats
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                  in fact the top may be her attempt at performing inception on Cobb, that if he ever stops to see whether ... : deathofrats
                  • I think you're vastly overestimating Mal's abilities. : MercFox1
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                  how can he be stuck in mal's dream if she is awake/not dreaming? : goatboy
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                    I don't think he's stuck in her dream so much as people fill their dreams with items from their subconsci : riptyde
                    • They have said EXACTLY THIS. I mean they can't get much more explicit with the explanation. : MercFox1
      • i think the top might have been Cobb's way of checking whether his projection of Mal is screwing around w : Veegeezee
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      The purpose of the totem is to make sure you're not in someone elses dream. He was in his own dream, s : foo
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        Yes that was the purpose of the totem, and not everyone understood that. It's to make sure that you're no : OverloadUT
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          What exactly would the use be of a top, tho? He expects the top to fall over if it's the real world. An : riptyde
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            It's not that totems performed the opposite; only the dude with the die had a "trick" object. The only im... : OverloadUT
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              Wasn't Ariadne's totem hollowed out unevenly so that it tipped over by itself? : riptyde
              • I don't remember that specifically, but it really doesn't matter. It simply has to be an object that you ... : OverloadUT
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            I'm sorry I had it backwards. In HIS dreams, it continues to spin. In other peoples dreams, it topples : foo
            • dammit now i have to go see the movie again : riptyde
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              wouldn't that make it impossible to tell the difference between other people's dreams and reality though : Veegeezee
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                Unless he tells everyone that it's supposed to spin forever, therefore they set it to spin forever and in : umcpwintermute
                • that's kind of my theory too : Veegeezee
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    Dude, I completely disagree. They didn't all look at him, one dude started yelling at him, armed guards w : MercFox1
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      Well, okay that particular scene may not have been the best example, since it really could be seen either : foo
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        That makes sense except why doesn't Mal just show up in his reality level dream, thus proving it's a drea : trove
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          Holy shit I can't believe I didn't think about that. Really good point and changes my view completely. : .frame
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            well though, didn't he say it was harder to keep her 'under control' the deeper he went? ie, it was easi... : deathofrats
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              How could he keep her under control if she was an active participant in a shared dream? : trove
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                I think he had her under control in his own dream world, because he architected that multi-level prison o : riptyde
                • Right, but we are talking about the top level. : trove
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          Yeah that's a good point. But it could be said that Mal actually is there, and she's there in the flesh : foo
          • That's possible and I considered that early on, but there isn't anything, I don't believe, to support tha... : trove
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        I don't think that jives, either. I don't think she is real, she doesn't even know inception exists, whic : MercFox1
        • Actually you're right, that does work. She's dead in Cobb's "reality". When he's dreaming, it's a proje : foo
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        This doesn't make sense. Wouldn't he eventually snap out of it in reality? Like even in the deepest sleep... : TheNiXXeD
        • "Several hours" in the real world equites to "several years" in the dream world, though. Theoretically, : foo
  • That's more or less the same impression I got from the film. He's still in Limbo inside of her dream. It : ColoradoCNC
  • That's funny, I watched it a second time and came to the exact opposite conclusion! I watched for the : scythide
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  So, what do people think about the idea of Cobb having multiple totems? : MercFox1
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    i think i want to go see it again. I don't think I've ever seen a movie at the theater twice. : .frame
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      Saw it in a regular theatre first time. Saw it in IMAX second time. Totally the way to go. : MercFox1
      • cool. I saw it at Alamo which has an awesome sound system but IMAX would really be better. : .frame
  • I've said it before: I'm convinced that his wedding band is his actual totem. He only wears it when he's : coldfusioncs
  • I think he does. I think all of these can or were his totems: Mal's top Wedding ring The memory/r : scythide
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  My dick is my totem. nobody else knows what it feels like : GloriousCow
  • Awwww... :( : Edges
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  I loved this movie, but I'm kinda getting tired of the ambiguous ending trend. I know it's good for buzz : coyoterys
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    from now on, movies should be forbidden to create sequels unless they merge with another movie sequel. ... : boring gegtik
    • I like this idea because of the logarithmic nature of the movie combination tree, this would mean they wo... : kaddar0
    • inception + primer : riptyde
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    It didn't matter if it was a dream or not - Cobb was fullfilled and happy to see his kids. If it were or : Druuge
    • If it was a dream, I wonder if is father was in on it. That's why he provided her with the awesome archi : riptyde
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  unrelated, but this thread just made me think of something. Someone here needs to make a "reveal all spo... : SolveChrist
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    I just invented one. it's called Ctrl+A : boring gegtik
    • holy shit, it works! : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • brilliant! but now everything looks so blue :( : SolveChrist
    • lol nice : sreyes22
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  Oh yea, Question: When the van was falling into the water and the next 'level' was weightless, why did th : Druuge
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    The elevator kick was meant to wake them up from the snow fortress dream. : Edges
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      I don't think you get his point: blowing the elevator supports is useless if there is no gravity in the e... : boring gegtik
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        Watch it again. They elevator doesn't fall down, it falls up. Arthur plants explosives to act as a propel : coldfusioncs
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          I saw that as well but my question remains the same. : Druuge
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            wait, I get it. all kicks need to occur during the same time period.. the kick is the feeling of falling,... : boring gegtik
            • This is the subtext that I got when watching it, yeah. You had to wake up from the 'deeper' dreams first. : Arctic Fox
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              IIRC, they all get kicked upon impact anyway which, as you and I have said before, creates the feeling of : Druuge
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                they had to wake up from there before the van crashed, bringing gravity back to the hotel. Otherwise they : ttyRazor
                • ^^^ What I meant. The elevator was meant to wake them up from the snow fortress and the van wakes them u... : Edges
        • assuming that's the case.. resumption of gravity would have worked as a kick anyway, right? : boring gegtik
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      Understood but it was timed with the van hitting the water, correct? Well what's the difference of being : Druuge
      • Maybe Arthur thought that since the kick of the van falling off the bridge didn't wake him, a simple drop : Arctic Fox
      • I think they had to be awake before the van hits the water. If the van hits and they get the kick but ar : Edges
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  This thread is starting to make my head hurt more than trying to rationalize time travel paradox movies. : coyoterys
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    ^^^^^Oh fuck^^^^^ NUKE IT : coyoterys
    • Never mind. I thought I forgot tags. : coyoterys
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    and the kids happen to look exactly the same as they did in his memory, in the exact same pose... coinci... : boring gegtik
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      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=23563359 : Arctic Fox
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        Aren't they wearing the same clothes? I may not be remembering correctly. : NastyJack
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          not exactly.. the daughter is wearing a white t-shirt under her dress at the end, which she isn't wearing : ThrillKill
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            I agree which is why I don't even really care either way. It doesn't matter or increase my enjoyment of t... : NastyJack
            • Exactly. K.I.S.S. : coyoterys
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  Inceptographic (Spoilers here) http://i32.tinypic.com/2886zk2.jpg :D : Godhatesfatpeople
  • That would be a kick ass poster:) : .frame
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    i give this extra love for including the endless staircase paradox in the graphic : riptyde
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      actually though the more I look at it, it seems off to me...I thought limbo was 'cobb's dream'? Why do t : .frame
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        it was limbo for Fischer, but Cobb plugged him into his own dream which he patterned off of the world he : ttyRazor
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          well why couldn't he do that for saito? : .frame
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            Because he's asian. : Godhatesfatpeople
            • lol : .frame
          • It's not really Cobb's dream ... Limbo is populated by the creations of those sharing the dream that have : ThrillKill
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  This music has been stuck in my head all day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imamcajBEJs : Dave-A
  • that + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-0URVCwLwM are phenomenal. : ThrillKill
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    The soundtrack was phenomenal. : virus
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      Ugh, Fuck you iTunes for making it so easy to spend $10. Just bought the soundtrack. FFFFUUUUU : virus
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        Check out the live renditions they did for a premiere http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4XxaWXsO78 : Godhatesfatpeople
        • The whole thing is here http://www.ustream.tv/inceptionpremiere : Godhatesfatpeople
      • Damn this entire soundtrack is awesome. I need to go see this movie again immediately. asdf : virus
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        yay $1 cheaper on amazon - bought!!! : dedgecko
        • ...ugh starting to regret purchase. Zimmer hasn't put out very much awesome since his retooling of Badel... : dedgecko
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  Joseph Gordon Levitt is my new favorite actor. His scenes in the movie, specifically in the hotel were f... : jingletard
  • I love that movie, that other movie he did where he was in a car accident and had really bad short term m... : Silent Wolf
  • Maybe it's because I saw the movie so many times as a kid, but I just can't stop remembering him from Ang... : Metatron85
  • I watched brick the other night it was fairly amazing. : SpaecKow
  • He really did fit the part perfectly. : .frame
• Great thread guys. I worked in a building in this movie. the first time Arthur shows Ariadne the wooden E : node
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  Was this based off a novel of the same or different name? : coyoterys
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    Nope. It's Nolan's first fully-original work since his first film Following. : sgtsanity
    • Wow, amazing. So there is no book version available... like based on his screen-play? I wanna read this... : coyoterys