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• I am so watching that! : theghostofsmdever
• sounds awesome! : moshman
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  Seems like it could be fascinating.. this interview on Letterman is just painful: http://www.youtube.c... : stonedonkey
  • Hey and here I thought that was just an act. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • "Joaquin, I'm Sorry You Couldn't Be Here Tonight" : Home Nugget
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  last time i saw that crazy mofo he was on Letterman and didn't say shit pretty much. : jonin
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    That interview was hilarious. : Eric2025
    • "I'm sorry you couldn't be here tonight." : ieGod
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  Humanity is fucking doomed. : g0nk
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    Dude rich guys messed up on drugs have been going out fucking everything that moves, getting naked and sh... : theghostofsmdever
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      As I said.. : g0nk
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        We have made it this far. We will be alight. (most of us) : theghostofsmdever
        • I'm scared... hold me? : g0nk
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  He was awesome in Gladiator :p : spectr3
  • "It vexes me! I am terribly vexed!" : gooblerampling
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    From starring in an oscar contender to being shat on in a documentary. How the mighty have fallen. : themaestro2657
    • He'll come back from the ashes. : AhmNee
  • He ruined gladiator for me. It was like the worst boss battle ever. : losder5000
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    busy little bees... : tbreffni
    • Yeah this fucking line. This was when I decided I didn't like the movie. : losder5000
  • AM I NOT MERCIFUL. : skinlab133
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    - Father! Have I missed the battle? - My son, you have missed the WAR. : AxeMan808
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      Did your jaw drop when he said that line?!?? : CrustaR
      • I laughed and laughed. That interaction alone was enough to define Joaquin's character for me. Of course,... : AxeMan808
  • hells yeah he was : jvox
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  Sounds like stuff we'd all do if we were famous actors. : jingletard
  • Isn't this what shackers do at quakecon anyway? : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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  Is all that true? I suppose even if it is true they don't need to actually show someone shitting on some... : GoodBoy
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    You ever watch the CKY series? : zuff
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      i don't remember them shitting on each other. i remember the taking a shit while running skit but i can'... : dignan
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        Yeah I remember that one plus the one where he shits in a toilet in a toilet store. But that one you di... : GoodBoy
        • that was jackass and he wasn't an original CKY member. that was from the first Jackass movie : dignan
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  the link says lost year not last year : dantastic
  • ah shiii. sorry. : minigomp
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  Haha, awesome. I can't wait for all the homophobes to be like, "OMG THERE'S A COCK IN FILM!" : Dschinghis Khan
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    I don't see the big deal with it. As long as they aren't aroused I can't see making a fuss. Not like th... : GoodBoy
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      I was thinking more of the some of the out rage on here about Watchmen and Forgetting Sarah Marshall. : Dschinghis Khan
      • Blue dicks seem to have that effect on people. : SigmaDraconis
      • It's amazing how many people said they weren't a fan of watchmen, and this was the first thing they compl... : shred.
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  I think the whole thing was a stunt to get hollywood to leave him alone for good. The whole tabloid media... : VegasX
  • yeah this has fake written all over it i cant believe people are this clueless but it does sound awesome ... : spiderfill
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  If this really is some kind of Kaufman-esque stunt... then kudos, sir. Kudos. : Rotten Deadite
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    Well somebody had to do since that fucker up and died on us. : Dschinghis Khan
    • Or... Joaquin Phoenix IS Andy Kaufman!!!!! : Rotten Deadite
  • Man if Kaufman hadn't been killed by Danny Devito with a moon ray I'd prolly be one of the people that ha... : losder5000
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  fuck casey affleck. i hated him in gone baby gone. little twerp. : crypt420
  • he was awesome in drowning mona : manero
  • i tend to agree on this + i didnt like that movie at all. so overrated. : minigomp
  • He was a whiny bitch in The Assassination of Jesse James by the coward Robert Ford too. : malevolence
• Sounds like an awesome movie! : freakynipples69
• aah yes, the vaunted stink chest. it was only a matter of time. : wendigo
• I thought his act was all some shtick and was waiting for the punchline but it never came : sanchez
• you'd think that having a brother die of drug overdose would somehow sober you up, but whatever. : deathofrats
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  i dont know, the lettermen thing still seems like some viral marketing shit for this movie. "art" : feek
  • prob a segment they'll use in the movie more like : MurrayTheSkull
• Burning ring of FIRE! : Lightzout

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  THAT LINK IS BAD : LoioshDwaggie
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    sorry, didnt copy the new one - http://www.cellsea.com/ringtone/detail/RT4a93f49be8e6f.htm : purekillforce
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      <3 I love you again. : LoioshDwaggie
      • Took me a while to find a good download page for it. You're welcome :) : purekillforce
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  Here is an odd story. Last shift at worn we get called out for a hanging. This young kid, probably around... : uglysad
  • damn, thats a grim mental image right there. could have been worse - could have been "Survivor" :| : purekillforce
  • Creeepyyyy : Lucien Irenicus
  • he really showed her. : xxiv
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    the worst part is it was his girlfriend calling to get back together with him. : deathofrats
    • she left a voicemail "baby, i feel like we would die without each other" : xxiv
• Link to Ringtone song - http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5484843903886451689# : purekillforce
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  The MSG codec ring, and the MSG "!". : Arcanum
  • Yeh, i had the codec for a while. was a good one. want something different so was hoping for some ide... : purekillforce
  • You know that stuff will kill you? : Rehevkor
  • mmmmmmm MSG *drools* Chinese food FTW : skelom
  • This exactly! I use the codec for emails, the "!" for other notifications like text messages. Fight clu... : DinK
• I was mad when I put sparkly's old spice guy noise on my phone and found out I can't change my text messa... : jenisthebest
• sadtrombone : retardhumper
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  Messages is Prof farnsworth 'goood news everyone' Rinngtone is tf2 music : chazums
  • Nice, think i may have to get that. you wouldnt know where i could d/l it, would you? (prof. F.) : purekillforce
• The Trashment - Surfing bird I have 2 versions i can use, the standard chorus part, or the hummed chor... : daroach1414
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  ICQ Uh-Oh for messages : watcherxp
  • How do you keep from exploding your phone? : rosewood
• Ringtone: Jaga Jazzist - Oslo Skyline Txt Received: Metroid Item Aquired jingle. : ucanbfuzzy
• Ringtone: Venture Bros: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Daf_7-edy8o&feature=related Text: Xbox Live Achi... : VictoriouSecret
• I miss the ringtone website one of the shackers hosted :( I had the mario brothers theme for years, sinc... : breadsticks
• My work blackberry's ringtone is the phone from CTU in 24 (google up CTU24.mp3) My iPhone's ringer is a ... : Entity
• I love that Funeral for a Friend song. : MarkovChain
• Crank dying phone ringtone : pimpium
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  my phone makes a ringing sound when a call comes in because it's a phone. : BongSlayerB
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    Iphones and blackberries are a dime a dozen. Custom ringers and alerts means you aren't grabbing your poc... : Entity
    • that's why you set it to vibrate instead of annoying ring tones. : FormerHPB
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkvroOBzFlI : Lawgiver
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  Calls: Kim Possible Kimmunicator ringtone. Messages: iPhone tritone : RikiTiki2
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    A friend of mine had that and didnt realise what it was from : purekillforce
    • only kids and parents seem to get it. shackers at quakecon last year thought it was the power rangers pag... : RikiTiki2
• I'm using the Crank dying phone ringtone. Just whatever default for notifications. : silent77

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  Here's an idea, stop buying these horrible games. Surely there's a point where you will vote with your wa... : SpaecKow
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    I don't think the solution is pretending their quality games are "horrible", though. I really enjoyed MW2... : ramshot
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      Well I don't think so, I think the CoD series has been repeating itself for a long while, but hey, whatev... : SpaecKow
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        I didn't enjoy the MW2 campaign, but the quality of the multiplayer gunplay in MW1/2 is currently unmatch... : enyakk
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          L4D is the best multiplayer *crosses arms* : SpaecKow
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            IMO MW excels at making each and every kill joyful. In L4D I don't care much about the individual kill, i... : enyakk
            • So, the actual enjoyment I get out of L4D isn't nearly as much connected to the gunplay as it is in MW is... : enyakk
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              MW on a basic level feels weird and random to me, I don't feel like there are very strong "rules" for mov... : SpaecKow
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                I mostly play on Hardcore servers, where I feel the rules of death are very clear. The movement in MW see... : enyakk
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                  What I mean for RO is that you have to do all these things, and you have to do them exactly right, but if... : SpaecKow
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                    it sounds more to me that you dont like the gameplay of a fast paced shooter, not just cod games. : maulla
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                      L4D is fast paced. I play plenty of fast paced shooters. : SpaecKow
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                        L4D is not a good game to compare to CoD. L4D may be fast paced, but its not a fast paced deathmatch styl... : maulla
                        • I wholehearted approve of Quake 3 and QuakeWorld. : SpaecKow
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                      MW has a pretty random nature in the way your kills or deaths play out, at least if you're aren't among t... : enyakk
                      • I agree, and like you said its all mitigated by being a relatively smart player. There are still sever... : maulla
                • ...it's not peer to peer... It's a goddamn listen-server for 95% of the data. : dedgecko
                • What's wrong with BC2's servers? We have instant update from the master server, pings, great filtering, ... : unjustend
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                Im not sure what youre talking about. CoD4 and MW2 are controlled very precisely and weapon damage is pre... : maulla
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                  Also unlocks throw these new CoD's way way out of whack. : SpaecKow
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                    I really dont think youve spent much time with CoD4 or MW2. compared to all of the other shooters that ha... : maulla
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                      SpaecKow looks for every opportunity to shit on MW2. This was merely another opportunity. : UselessHack
                      • I'm glad you noticed, but don't spoil my name searches with your posts. : SpaecKow
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                      Considering the constant whining on this website alone in the first month or so of MW2 about the guns and... : SpaecKow
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                        youre really just making shit up. the constant whining was 99% about dedicated servers, and thats what it... : maulla
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                          and the more you post the more I can see that you probably didnt put more then an hour into the MP portio... : maulla
                          • Yeah, it's pretty obvious. MW2 is an extremely well done game when it comes to multiplayer and anyone who... : Modica Sol Solis
                  • Eh, not really. The dependence on the heart monitor is kinda gay though. There are unlocks you can use to... : enyakk
              • There are it's just very tight and confining. I don't like to operate in those confines. I mean, don't ge... : ieGod
          • I agree, I never had so much fun in a multiplayer game. I really like co-op games so a great community + ... : raxtor
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          Totally incorrect, MW2 is barely in the top 5 online competitive shooters, quality wise. : Jinxplayer
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            I'm glad this is quantifiable now : FrayLo
            • This is actually something of a radical detour quite separate from MW2 cause I don't play it online and d... : SpaecKow
          • haha what? : maulla
        • CoD4 gunplay was way better than MW2 gunplay : MercFox1
        • Quake EOT : VegasX
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        Repetitive, surely. But the production values, graphics, game play, map design are all high standard stuf... : ramshot
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          CoD is the Transformers of video games. I watch Transformers and I see the money on the screen, I see tha... : SpaecKow
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            Fair enough, I suppose, but what would you call a game like CoD without the mentioned upsides? What's bel... : ramshot
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              Proper-bad shooters riding on the coat tails of CoD? Area 51 Blacksite, Wolfenstein, FEAR2, there's more.... : SpaecKow
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                Okay. Though I have to say that I find your scale a bit confusing. They're just as bad but in a different... : ramshot
                • Okay fair enough, Area 51 is absolutely a worse game than MW, single player specifically. However, I stil... : SpaecKow
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  Hahahaha... I say we encourage it! Better a franchise like this instead of one that's actually, you know,... : Home Nugget
  • de ja vu..... :| : purekillforce
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  This guy has a point: multiplayer gives games a longevity that reduces sales in the market as a whole. I ... : wasylm
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    but the free updates have caused more people to buy the game. TF2 has also given valve something they cou... : purekillforce
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      I'm sure Valve can figure out the best way to earn money from their products, but I'm offering up TF2 as ... : wasylm
      • there should be free hours below a certain limit otherwise users like me who play maybe once every few mo... : Shai-Tan
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    It probably is a testament to team size ,overhead, etc. that Valve seems to have little interest in makin... : Masem
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      They already tried to start a format where you are charged to watch a DVD multiple times: remember DIVX (... : pyrogen
      • And DIVX died a painful death. : Masem
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      It's up to us as consumers to support the experiences we like and avoid the ones we don't. There's no way... : wasylm
      • The problem is that CoD is too intense and too fast for a transition to an MMO. MMOs work better with slo... : LoioshDwaggie
    • there's a lot of money spent on operating costs and supporting multiplayer. You may not realize it, but i... : deveus1
  • CoD4 and Halo 3 were the most played games on XBL for what... two years running? Maybe even a little mor... : umcpwintermute
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    if you're gonna use that reason, then charge me $19 for Single-Player only : devpaul
    • I will! : wasylm
  • Yeah no, every CoD game sells more than the last. : SpaecKow
• I guess by his logic any single player game that can be played for a long time such as an Elder Scrolls g... : pyrogen
• Wait, you mean we can get $15 a month from these assholes? Release the dev hounds! : jingletard
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  a sliding price depending on content seems reasonable. Not everyone wants the same amount of a game. Ki... : DonkeyPopsicle
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    and I don't understand why MMO's are exempt from this ire if this practice is so heinous. : DonkeyPopsicle
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      A normal MMO is paying for servers, persistent admins, constant support, and new content continuously ove... : Masem
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        Ultimately it creates an interesting conundrum between Activision and Microsoft's Xbox Live. I don't see... : dedgecko
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          At the bare minimum, I can justify live for a certain amount of free content - demos, videos, etc. - that... : Masem
          • After owning a PS3 for nearly a week now... PSN is fucking garbage in comparisons to what LIVE has. Gr... : dedgecko
    • There's a difference between a game that gets new patches, content and is hosted on server centers fully ... : ramshot
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  That's a crack-pipe smoking journalist.. and he's full of shit. : GoodBoy
  • Activision would have done this by now if it was viable, I'd think. : loppsided
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  I think our only saving grace at this point is Microsoft's reluctance to allow MMO subscriptions on top o... : mancide
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    what about FFXI? : maulla
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      I didn't think that was coming to 360 because of this very policy... : mancide
      • it is on 360. as far as I know, its the only MMO on the platform, though. : maulla
  • I'd argue that this Ubisoft U-live thing is *hinting* at being able to provide paid content outside of th... : Masem
• I wish people would stop listening to Pachter. : Fred Garvin
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  "The company has the greatest experience of the Western publishers with multiplayer subscriptions, given : dedgecko
  • It's all the same machine now. : retarded talking dinosaur
• Article about Michael Pachter: http://www.bingegamer.net/2009/who-the-fuck-is-michael-pachter/ "Analys... : dfay
• Here's why this is fucking stupid: if you do this, you will VAPORIZE your casual user base. People who pl... : retarded talking dinosaur
• Don't these guys see that only a few pay to play experiences can be supported while the rest wither and d : Lunatic Angelic
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  This will kill COD and they will all be scratching their heads wondering why. : jayacheess
  • Eh - they'll blame it on piracy or whatever is the latest thing to blame it on (indie developers seems go... : dedgecko

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  Yes. But the abolition of the middle class is also a common result (and goal) of statism. : Marrbe
  • I don't think this countries citizens would take that too well. : one random winner
  • What the fuck are you even talking about? Do you have anything to support your viewpoint other than LOL S... : FlatlineDixay
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    Yeah, because Europe is having this same problem, right? : mathyou
    • burn : i38warhawk
    • Is that sarcasm? I thought most countries in Europe are fucked. : robosextoid
  • No, no it's not? You live in a country with the strongest middle class in the world and it's also a soci... : akirabob
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  those are some pretty sobering statistics. I wonder if there are strong emerging middle classes in develo... : Supine
  • China seems to be building a middle class, not so sure but I'd assume India as well. : one random winner
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    There are, and a lot of it is based on US jobs that have been outsourced. Our dev group in India live li... : riptyde
    • Of course, places like India are where you can really see the effects of a wealth gap. The hotel our par... : riptyde
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      Won't companies just outsource to countries with even cheaper labour than China and India? For instance, ... : ShekkyBoy
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        Yeah but we are running out of places to exploit. India and Eastern Europe and South America are getting... : riptyde
        • Exploit? It kind of sounds like American companies are showering the world with money that would otherwis... : robosextoid
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  I think the US will eventually break up. : james_austintx
  • I really don't see that happening. : MercFox1
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    I think the US will go bankrupt. China will eventually get pissed off and call in all the debts, the US ... : retardhumper
    • They don't have to buy anything up they already own it, including a ton of promises of tax money from the... : theghostofsmdever
    • Problem is that China's economy runs on the US buying their cheap goods. They need us to be solvent as m... : riptyde
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      That's not how things work with t-bills, which is the primary means we fund our debt. What China and oth... : Andy Hanson
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        I think this will actually end up with us no longer being the world police, and whatever replaces us (if ... : one random winner
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          Maybe regional hegemonies with America covering the Americas and China covering Asia. : riptyde
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            That's probably the best possible scenario actually. : one random winner
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              Except for the issue of all the historical grudges between China, Japan, and Korea. : riptyde
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                Yeah, there's that issue, it'd probably have to be broken down even more regionally than that on that sid... : one random winner
                • This assumes no major wars breaking out. Throw in a few nukes and alliances can shift fairly quick. ... : i38warhawk
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        Deficit reduction?????!!! You want us to spend less?? : [fry]
        • How we gunna spend less unless we spend more? You are clearly stupid. : robosextoid
  • won't break up, but it won't stay the lone superpower. probably wind up being on the same level as France... : RikiTiki2
  • Not a chance. When something like that happens the country will just completely close off it's borders a... : akirabob
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  Most of those "statistics" seem a bit dodgey. I'm not saying there's not an inequity in wealth distributi... : hbalce1
  • There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. : r_Ed
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  Some of those statistics are misleading. For the first time in U.S. history, banks own a greater share : exigence7
  • Homes only appreciate if there are more buyers than sellers. With lower wages and tightening lending, th : riptyde
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  I think one of the biggest problems with this is the masses of self proclaimed 'middle class' who have al... : theghostofsmdever
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    All middle class realy means is having the ability to provide a reasonable standard of living for yoursel... : MagicWishMonkey
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      Thats a very recent interpretation of it. Being middle class has historically been defined as not being i... : theghostofsmdever
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        I've never actually heard that definition before, but if that's true then there hasn't been a "true" midd... : one random winner
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          Come on, smdever just posted the TEXTBOOK definition of the middle class. No wonder these discussions alw... : trove
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            Yeah but most of us with earnings in that range are still working for someone else. : riptyde
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              Also, I'm still bitter that someone else from VA brought a Five guys to my neighborhood in CO before I go... : riptyde
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                Franchiser requirements for 5 guys is supposed to be really high. Same with Jamba Juice. : trove
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                  It's high but not nearly as bad as a McDonalds. I've talked to the owners (turns out we both grew up in ... : riptyde
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                    McDonalds (IIRC) ends up being about $1 million in start up costs when you get down to it. It used to bo... : one random winner
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                      And the trick with McDonald's is you have to be a sole investor (you cant go in as a group on one), and y... : riptyde
                      • And the poor get fat and die young. : i38warhawk
            • I should have clarified and I realized that after I posted. The small businessman, who makes between 100... : trove
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            Class became a really ugly word in the US and it has had catastrophic effects. If you don't understand wh... : theghostofsmdever
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              I wonder how many people have prevented themselves from truly moving into the upper class (via investment : riptyde
              • Yeah, its sad because at no other point in history has there been such opportunity for real class mobilit... : theghostofsmdever
          • Most people think middle class starts at $40,000 , those people don't realize that they are just the work... : i38warhawk
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          Thats because since the 50's the American PR machine has done all it can to change the meaning . The true... : theghostofsmdever
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            outside of engineering consultants and those with multiple micro businesses I've always thought of those ... : one random winner
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              There are only a tiny amount of true upper class people in the world. 6000 if you believe people like Dav... : theghostofsmdever
              • I've always put them above upper class, like some sort of Super class or something. The ruling elite. : one random winner
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                Well that's really the top 0.1% at that point, right? : riptyde
                • More like the top 0.0001% : one random winner
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                  Yeah and that's the upper class. The rest are all upper middle class etc. The differentiator is that this... : theghostofsmdever
                  • That said, its all completely up to an individual how they wish to describe themselves :D : theghostofsmdever
                  • I always wonder who the hell buys all the Ferraris and Lambos in the world. My income is in the top 10% ... : riptyde
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  So when do you think the lower classes should revolt and topple the government and massive corporations? ... : zuga
  • The lower classes are going to be too fat and sickly to do anything after generations of being told what ... : trove
  • If the lower classes were that organized then they wouldn't be in the position they are in now in the fir... : riptyde
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  I don't find this article particularly well written and, coming from Business Insider, I can see why, but : Attica Blue
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    I think his point is this: - We burden businesses with lots of rules and regulations that make it expe... : MagicWishMonkey
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      Yeah, I know exactly what his point is. My point is that his point is self-contradictory. If, as you s... : Attica Blue
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        I'm pretty sure he wants rules and regs that make it a little more difficult to outsource work overseas. ... : MagicWishMonkey
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          I'd be interested to know what sort of regulations could possibly prevent that. : riptyde
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            Tax the shit out of any US company doing so. Pretty simple. : Thornfist
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              Then they'll just relocate their company offshore entirely. I think you'd have more luck giving ince... : riptyde
              • Heck, our company created an entirely new spin-off company that employs all the folks in India. Technica... : riptyde
              • At this point I think you'd have to do a combination of both, and the outsourcing tariff would have to be : one random winner
          • Effectively an outsourcing tariff of some sort that equalized the cost of labor being sent overseas to th... : one random winner
        • um, wasn't that one of the reasons why american workers were more expensive? The better thing would be... : stgdz
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  We're over-taxed and over-regulated. Big business is too big to fail. If the top 1% is too big to fa... : zen2k
  • Amen, Brother. : Thornfist
  • Agreed. : akirabob
• i blame the unions, and the owner of the cavaliers. : crypt420
• what's the matter with kansas, anyway : ]pm[chem
• I think this article is flawed from a basic economic principles point of view. There will always be a ... : twifosp