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  Looks good. I would jump on that newegg sale for the Intel 80gb G2 SSD for $195. Then pick up a 1tb Cav... : ant_hillbilly
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    Man, $195 is a good price for an Intel SSD. Is there any reason to not get this particular model? Anyth... : Dechter
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      Nope, its the one you want to get unless you can afford the 160gb model. : ant_hillbilly
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        or the models with intel's 3rd gen firmware. Although I think it'll still be a few more months before tho... : Prozium
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          What's gonna be in the new firmware? : kn1fe
          • Engineer update. : ChibiJosh
  • They need to make these bigger and cheaper... I'd want at least a 250GB SSD. : Shadowdane
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  I'm still jamming the c2d 8800gts, I'm waiting for a games that really makes me upgrade. : hirosushima
  • I'm going to move my current computer parts to an HTPC. : Dechter
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  Core i5 750 is the only choice at the moment. : airrob
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    Better performance right now but it's a dead socket. AM3 still has bulldozer coming out next year. : Visceral Monkey
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      Do people really change their CPU only? : guigr
      • Why not? : razlebol
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        if its a viable upgrade path. if i'm not mistaken you could have made an upgrade from athlon 64 to core ... : Hoax
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          "if i'm not mistaken you could have made an upgrade from athlon 64 to core to aphenom ll x4" You are m... : sukabljat
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            Athlon64's were launched on AM2 : Toraz Chryx
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              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlon_64 "At the introduction of Athlon 64 in September 2003, only Socke... : sukabljat
              • in the same link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlon_64 look on the right side and read what sockets are : Hoax
              • I'll rephrase myself, Athlon64 processors that fit and operate on AM2 sockets were launched. I didn't ... : Toraz Chryx
            • ^yep just looked it up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_AM2 the phenom and phenom2 capability came wit... : Hoax
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        I usually get two cpu's per mainboard. This system I'm sat at for example, began life with an e8400 (a... : Toraz Chryx
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          Well if you can justify replacing a recent CPU. I would feel a bit guilty to replace a e8400@4Ghz just no... : guigr
          • depends on what you do (video editing/encoding or any multicore heavy lifting like gta4) for example. i'm... : Hoax
          • I was doing a lot of video encoding at the time, so it was a worthwhile upgrade, and at 3.8Ghz the thing ... : Toraz Chryx
          • Keep in mind, the E8400 is in a Dell Vostro 200 now, so it's running at stock clock, which means for a he... : Toraz Chryx
• Thanks, all! : Dechter
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  Swap that Antec PSU for a 750W Corsair, go modular if you want to spend a bit more on it, but stick with ... : angrytaxman
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    750w is still lols for that build : Sapiens
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      Ok so 650W Corsair : angrytaxman
      • the HX520 would be ideal but they quit making it :( : Sapiens
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    corsair have nice discounts and mail in rebate right now on newegg too.. CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W -> 8... : Shai-Tan
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      not the best models but great price/performance there : Shai-Tan
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        Yeah none of those are SeaSonic rebrands. I'd go with a 620HX since they discontinued the 520HX. : Sapiens
        • I don't see the 620HX on Newegg either now. I have 2 and they are awesome. I wanted to get another. : Herse00
  • If he's gonna change that PSU he may as well go for the best and buy a PCPnC, Enermax or Seasonic. : Mr. Goodwrench
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  It looks like you can't tell a computer from your own penis... ship it to me : Kniggit
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    the computer, not your penis =( : Kniggit
    • 1. cut a hole in the box : skryte
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  is the 8800GTS a 320/640 or 512? if it's a 512 then the 5770 isn't THAT huge a leap over it. also I se... : Toraz Chryx
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    toraz the lack of availability and reasonably priced 5850's is pissing me off. its like: "psst dude, wan... : Hoax
    • the lack of ATI saying "fuck you" to Nvidia and releasing a GPU based on Cypress but scaled up to match t : Toraz Chryx
• Looks good man. Phenom II's and GIgabyte AMD chipset boards are a fucking winning combination. : Mr. Goodwrench
• I have a 965 BE 125w retail cpu if you want it, retail heatsink & box, used but does 4ghz all day with a ... : rms

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• Walter is going to cross the streams. : BlackCat9
• The chick will wake up and realize it was all a bizarre dream brought on by a bad burrito for dinner. : ChibiJosh
• Walternate vs Walter to the death. : massdev
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  So my employees at work like asking each other "What If" questions at work. You know, what if you walked ... : intothefray
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    This is a difficult question. Do I have to suck future me's dick while he's sucking mine? : sparkly
    • Getting a BJ from a future version of you means that at some point in the future, you would have to suck ... : BlackCat9
    • Wouldn't future you already know whether you let him suck your dick or not? : Vincent Grayson
  • wasn't this a smodcast discussion? : Clay
  • i was waiting for the 2 olivias to make out on the floor during the wrestling scene :( : dantastic
  • Is it ok to drink wine with your future self? : steauengeglase
  • The correct answer is you both suck each others dicks and it cancels out. Or something. : Visceral Monkey
• I dont know about you but ive been waiting all week for this! : hobosapien
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  Can't wait. This show freaking RULES. : virus
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    FUCKING : hobosapien
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      EPIC : hobosapien
      • COCKS : massdev
• I'm watching it right now. Dvr ftw! : Ambient80
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  I just finished watching it. Wow, that was awesome! : bording
  • Me too! And agreed, it was quite amazing. : Ambient80
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  Yay! I knew I didn't watch last weeks episode! I smelled a two parter! Will enjoy myself tonight! : fleabug
  • the "Part One" in the title was a subtle clue : dirge23
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  so predictable the minute olivianate got knocked out that original olivia was gonna dye her hair and ther : dantastic
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    also why does other olivia wear her hear inside her jacket? : dantastic
    • "whats the deal with airplane food?" : stygian_whisper
• :O : jayares
• Awesomeness will happen. Damn you east coasters. : Senate5000
• thankfully they were renewed for a 3rd season : hobosapien
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  wtf how did they switch, only the original olivia had the note from the observer. and they showed the alt : hobosapien
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    it was when she threw the grenade. that was a ruse, and there was a moment when bell (i think it was bell : dirge23
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      also, it was bell who opened the gate. bell could go back and forth. : dirge23
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        I guess that makes sense now that I think about when the black dude got the call from the secretary and h : hobosapien
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          Exactly. I do think it is a huge plot hole to say "Bell opened the door", when it was made clear in th : Colleton
          • Hell yea Olivia is smoking, in The Pacific she was that dame posing with Basilone. : shortbuscaptain
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            olivia fighting with herself has to be one of the hottest things on fringe : eatsshootsnleaves
            • that scene was awesome, simultaneously sexy and bizarre : dirge23
          • Check out her aussie accent in YouTube when she's in interviews. : kramweil
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            I love Anna Torv's acting, but I feel the writers really don't make her stand out enough compared to Walt... : choppp
            • They should tell her to use her real accent for the next season. : kramweil
  • I'm glad it wasn't that drawn out of a reveal. I knew they were doing that at that moment when the grena : Masem
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  I don't know what i have to say about it. I'm pretty blown away and speechless by how amazing of a perfo... : choppp
  • it needs to be fall! : dahanese
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  Honestly disappointed with the season finale part 2 really fizzled out rather than with a bang. Still a g : massdev
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    she didn't - it was all bell : dahanese
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      bell was the energy for the reaction fueling the particle accelerator but he didn't have the ability to o : massdev
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        No, Bell opened it himself. That's how he's been traveling between worlds. Still kind of a lame deus ex m : BlackCat9
        • Exactly... If Bell has been crossing over multiple times, how else is he doing it if he can't open "port : dante2010
        • No! WHy do you think they went back to the same spot? Olivia had already created the crack, they just : Beady
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  How is this show compared to Lost? : razor851
  • It's to me what LOST was in 2005. : kramweil
  • better because you don't get fucked around : spaceyme
  • There are fewer open questions that have little hope of being answered, but you still have to wait for th... : BlackCat9
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    Completely different. The obvious comparison is The X-Files, where many episodes contribute to a seaso... : Vincent Grayson
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      My friend tells me even the monster of the week episodes tie into the big arc. He says that he wants t... : Sailor of Fortune
      • Well, in this case they largely tie into the arc because the mythology of the show has established that e... : Vincent Grayson
    • the series is just too trashy in a buffy way while its trying to emulate x-files style mystery/monster of... : Hoax
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  How many episodes in season 3 are going to be Monster of the Week before they resolve the mix-up between : BlackCat9
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    I actually enjoy the monster-of-the-week episodes as well as those that advance the overall arc of the st... : kramweil
    • Yeah, i'm just glad that they tied em all in loosely in the last couple episodes. It wasn't much, but st... : choppp
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  Easter egg found: On the chalkboard in Walternate's office, it said: A Demon's Twist Rusts Which is : Bamtan
  • Woah, I noticed that on the board but did not think of at all. : choppp
  • Ah ha. I was trying to figure out if it was a mnemonic, since Walter seems to be fond of those. : BlackCat9
  • Nice find : WhatIsThisFor

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• Sex paaaaarrrtyyyy : DrWaffles
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  Make sure they all pay good and proper for that bed. : spazzium
  • He has a super sweet apartment, he's so cool for letting us chill here! : mysled
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  Pics or it didn't happen. : Goncyn
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    http://www.shackpics.com/files/100_0167_4jk5mngf2s6e1v9n8m9s.jpg : ass-street
    • :( : ass-street
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      That facial hair you guys are sporting is impressive. :) : thetangent
      • This is how we do : c0bra
      • thx d00d : mysled
    • is that you on the mac? : justwr!ght
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      Why isn't lexi wearing his s2 shirt? : bongturbo
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        which one is Lexi, so i can make fun of him next time i see him in HoN? : mayooms
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          NM found him! >:) : mayooms
          • :( : c0bra
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        This right is the fuck what I want to know! : Lexicon_Leidun
        • *This right here* damn you kgargs : Lexicon_Leidun
    • Wow that looks like the start of a creepy amateur rape porn scene! : hashd
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      When are you gonna lay down the tarp? : _jon
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        i've got a bottle of sake ready in the kitchen : ass-street
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          make sure you get it to a comfortable 40 degrees Centigrade. : _jon
          • that's 104 degrees fahrenheit! : ass-street
    • look at all the fucking chin hair in that picture, you guys could weave an entirely new carpet : AlexXdude
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      Three guys and nobody is talking to the girl : spiffymc
      • That's how you know it's a Shackmeet. : thetangent
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        you obviously havent met mysled in real life. : sesmaster
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          WHAT ARE YOU SAYING SESMASTER : mysled
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            that when you get back in town I will be living DOWN THE STREET FROM YOU, and that we should get some Ind... : sesmaster
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              oh man, can we go to the Indian buffet on Oxford? : mysled
              • yes I havent hit that one up. I usually go to the old house of curry : sesmaster
      • They're all playing Wii, so technically I'm ignoring them. There's only 4 players allowed though, so some... : mysled
      • she isn't free : boomstickah
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      which one is Lexi? : sesmaster
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        the dude on the left standing up : ass-street
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          he's taking the picture : mysled
          • no he isnt : c0bra
        • Sweet! Now I have a face with the name! Lexi sports some sweet beard action, as well. : MercFox1
    • nice facial hair : Goncyn
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      now pics of the gorgy (that's gay-orgy) : proclone1
      • More like a devil's 4-way : Prozium
    • Mattingly! Cut those sideburns : jimmy_legs
    • is this a still from a new aphex twin video? : itsjames
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      Is that all the same dude?? : CrustaR
      • lol : skinlab133
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      how much seminal fluid you reckon that papasan chair has seen? I refuse to sit in those having had one in... : fletch_
      • lol : filtersweep
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      killer pad, ass-street : feek
      • thanks bra! i don't own a couch though :( i need to get one soon. : ass-street
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      man. I want to come over there and fill that papason with pinot grigio and assume a horse stance and butt... : vile
      • shacknews, please never change : filtersweep
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        vile, you are truly the greatest shacker of all. when are we starting our band? i'll relocate to manass, ... : ass-street
        • I'm ready to take this project to the next level. : vile
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        Will it be chilled? : jimmy_legs
        • frigid. : vile
      • ohhhh myyyyyyy : MercFox1
      • vile i love you bro : AlexXdude
      • whaaaaaaaaaa : sanchez
      • i dont know what half of this post means but i like it : DrFlammable
• tell em i said hi : davislovestacobell
• wtf thats gay : sludge vohaul
• You gotta set them up, kid. : BlackCat9
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  Is this like the Kansas Shackmeet? : spiffymc
  • Sort of, impromptu for passers-thru : c0bra
• pics+divx : thetangent
• screamin' eagles for everyone! : hirez
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  Someone kick Lexicon in the nuts for raping in the SC2 tourny! Just kidding, ggs, have fun! : SqueegyTBS
  • Yeah, well, Rbjester, who knocked me out, isn't even going to finish! I was hoping to save some face ther... : Lexicon_Leidun
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  i was not invited :( : Flying h4x0r
  • move back to KC you fool! : ass-street
• Fixed. http://www.philsized.com/awwyeah.jpg : Phil

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  well it's not like they've announced another beta phase or anything... : Sapiens
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    You mean the 2 week one they announced basically just for load testing when they get the new hardware? : abrasion
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      that's the one : Sapiens
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        also it could stay in beta forever and there will still be people complaining about balance. i trust bli... : Sapiens
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          With changes this large and frequent and the beta ending in 9 days - I'm not convinced the bonus 2 weeks ... : abrasion
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            it's not like we aren't going to buy the game anyway, and i dunno about you but i suck a big dick at rts ... : Sapiens
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              I'm also terrible - I care mostly for single player but I'm not buying SC2 until the region stuff is addr... : abrasion
              • if they do separate regions and don't allow cross-region character creation for aussies that is going to ... : Sapiens
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  Thank god they did something about the fucking void rays. : skitzo
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    They move slow as fuck and are weak as piss on armour - there was no need. : abrasion
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      Them not outranging hydras is very nice. A void ray nuking your probes just out of hydra range on the ed... : SqueegyTBS
      • You know what - fair call, fair call. : abrasion
      • Keeping the charge going is the challenge with them and with a slightly reduced range I think it benefits... : On the Brane
  • they're so easy to counter though. : moshman
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  WTF? Removed identifier from the character naming process and added the ability to refer friends for invi : abrasion
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    the identifier system didnt make any sense the way it was implemented : extrahappyturtle
    • So what does this mean? People are going to only have one name, ever? : abrasion
  • good, that naming thing was dumb : moshman
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  Overseers are fucking badass now! : filthysock
  • They should be, for a cost of 150/100! : SqueegyTBS
• These Zerg changes are interesting. I love the overseer buff with useful casting abilities on a unit eve... : SqueegyTBS
• l2p : spaceyme
• In 2v2 against 2 zerg players, I was terran and my teammate was zerg, he got wiped out before I could get... : vynn
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  What the... My SC2 beta only updates up to 12.1 Anyone else? I can't play 3v3 or 4v4 matches. :( : Wikus Van De Merwe
  • Don't think the patch is out yet. : vynn
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  so the ultras were nerfed hardcore or am i crazy : 7621305
  • I don't know enough to judge the +to armored vs base damage thing, but waltzing through force fields is p... : ZombieAcademy
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    Total nerf except for the force field smash. : abrasion
    • and increased damage to buildings, and increased damage to armored units, and the infestor's frenzy abili... : Serpico74
  • Shifted. They do more damage to armored units and Blizzard are basically telling you USE THESE WITH INFES : Serpico74
  • Well they now do more damage to pretty much all the things that do more damage to them but with the healt... : Senate5000
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  wow Infestor- * Infested Terran spell removed. : burning eye
  • Eh, it was just moved. : brickmatt
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  30 second frenzy for 25 energy? does anyone think that we'll see begin to see frenzy spam right before ze... : StolenNosferatu
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    when else would you use it : valael
    • Pass the time while you turtle and build your massive army for epic space battles : Serpico74
  • Yep it's very WC3 and that don't fit with SC : abrasion
• this just gets worse and worse. I don't want to play Zerg anymore. I've basically gone back to BW. Hey... : MamiyaOtaru

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  links to said idiot? : ejectorpod
  • Can't link to nukes : RikiTiki2
• Apparently I missed some drama. : slax0r
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  That's dumb. It wasn't a spoiler. It's been shown and mentioned in multiple trailers not to mention it's ... : AlexXdude
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    I didn't know about it, it was for me... : TabsAZ
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      It's on the paper game map. Maybe in the manual too. : Arcanum
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        i got the game from gamefly so i don't have a paper map or manual. SO THERE : multisync
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          what about an in-game map when you press start did you not get one of those either? : AlexXdude
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            no because i haven't even played the game yet. SO THERE : multisync
            • i still love you multisync, you will always have a special place in my heart : oHnOES
          • LOL Alex! : hashd
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    Everytime someone gets banned I get $5 so ban away! : SlingBlaze
    • for 2.00 per ban maybe I could work with you on this? : flagg209
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    what is? : mwasher
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      well apparently it can't be said because everyone whines about it and people get nuked : AlexXdude
      • Or just put it behind a spoiler tag, which the op didn't do. : ecclesio
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        spoil tag it : mwasher
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          you go to mexico at some point in the game! : AlexXdude
          • Wait a minute! There are Mexicans in the game?? I am taking it back now... : hashd
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          The op asked something about getting back to the mainland after going to Mexico. People were upset becaus : ecclesio
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            oh my fucking god you have got to be kidding me? i even made a sarcastic joke because i knew some douche... : mwasher
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              He didn't really ban oHnOES for it, as seen by oHnOES post above. : ecclesio
              • ah i couldn't even remember who i replied to silliness around these parts : mwasher
            • no harm no foul, its sorted it. its no big deal : oHnOES
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              It's stupid because it's in all the trailers, but I can definitely see how that would be a HUGE spoiler t... : Reeves
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                you'd have to ignore a whole lot. don't even read the back of the box where it mentions 1911 (unless you... : mwasher
                • just let sleeping dogs lie. its over. move on : oHnOES
                • The newspapers you buy in game will tell you the year in roman numerals. : trove
          • Wow, people got their panties in a twist over that? Jeez. : thetangent
          • OH FUCK I CLICKED THIS GAME IS RUINED FOR ME : dirge23
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            You've got to be kidding. : Visceral Monkey
            • I thought that was a joke -_- : mobab
          • hahahahahaha gamers are such a fucking fickle bunch jesus christ : DrWaffles
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            Did you know that in Doom 3, at some point you get to go to Hell? : CRasterImage
            • YOU RUINED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111 : quadeh
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            Haha, there's a big Mexican flag on the map in the pause menu next to the US one where in the upper left ... : pyide
            • ok, i was the one that got banned. i messaged multisync and now i am not. GET OVER IT : oHnOES
          • I knew this just from watching the promotional videos for the game and looking on the website. multisync?... : ArB
          • Wow wtf, did no one look at the map at all? : DonarUDL
          • GUYS. i talked to multisync and got unbanned. its NOT A BIG DEAL. : oHnOES
          • wow people are retarded. i haven't played the fucking game but the trailers were full of this shit and th... : Hoax
          • hahahah : abrasion
          • Now I don't even care if it comes on out PC. IT'S OVER FOR ME : Trips
          • How do I see spoiler'd text with ShackDroid? : mXENO
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            That's in the trailers for fuck's sake! : gooblerampling
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              everybody jumped on the bandwagon of " OH OH MY PRECIOUS GAME" : oHnOES
              • i bet 97% of those people were being sarcastic. : oHnOES
  • The map that comes with your copy even says 'SOUTH OF THE BORDER'. on it to denote an area. : soggybagel
  • it's also in the text on the back of the box : mikecyb
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  Dang, now you're going to get a thread of curious-who-got-banned replies instead of RDR replies. : MercFox1
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    I'll get it on the right track. What is RDR? : aasyranth
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      A video game. : Haxim
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        Retro Dance Revolution : SlingBlaze
        • Hahah I would so play a game like that!! "Dance type: Swing" : Solstice
  • i just want to know who got banned. : mayooms
• BOOM! Hit 'em with the Dead Eye. : obiquatro
• Can you ban the guy on JTV that was on the final mission when i jumped in the channel? : hirosushima
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  If I buy this game will I do what I do with every GTA game since GTA3? Play it until about 50-60% thro... : fleabug
  • i haven't because it's not as crazy as it is in GTA. no cop cars, traffic, helicopters, motorcycles, etc... : valael
  • I do the same thing! So far no way I will be doing that it is a blast : supermonkeyballz
  • its interesting people would rather pay $60 for an 8 hour game they finish than $60 for a game they play ... : ease one
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  i could have sworn the voice actor for marston was the guy who voiced Johnny in GTA lost damned : spiderfill
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    I thought it was bill paxton at first : chrisschutz
    • ok good so I wasn't the only one who thought that. : tfsbrian
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      i know i recognize the voice, and i think that's who i was trying to think of. also, the bill's mother in... : feek
      • the : feek
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    Who voices Landon Ricketts? That guy does a really good job : AlexXdude
    • yeah he is awesome i was hoping it was sam elliott himself but i guess not. its this guy http://www.imdb.... : spiderfill
  • this was my thought from the trailers : oHnOES
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    I like his voice, but his speech patten reminds me of Jason Lee in My Name is Earl and it constantly bugs... : Ctrl-Phreak
    • Yeah, noticed that and it bugs me too. : boredguy
    • Yes, this was bothering me too. : ShadeOGreen
  • I thought the exact same thing, haha! : notd665
  • I think it sounds like a slightly more western version of Earl from My Name is Earl : riptyde
  • yep me too, sounds exactly like him : opengl128
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    Wait, you mean that's not Johnny? : Sapiens
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      Nope, it's actually the same guy who voiced Troy from the Ballad of Gay Tony (surprised the hell out of m... : Zips
      • Oh God, I'm an idiot. Sorry. It wasn't the guy who voiced Troy (I clicked on the wrong link), but it's ... : Zips
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    the whole cast is fairly unknown: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1479962/ : minigomp
    • btw, do NOT put your mouse over the spoiler tag on that site... : minigomp
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  The last Marksman Mastery thing is brutal disarm 6 people without reloading/switching weapons any tips on... : SlingBlaze
  • Level 3 dead eye? : uncle slappy
  • Evans repeater (22 shots) and try the miners base : ArtilleryMarker
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  Anyone playing multi? zuffdaddy on 360 : zuff
  • Freakynipples? :( : zuff
  • rodney stubbs : chrisschutz
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  Did he spoil the part where space aliens were responsible for everything? What a dip shit, that was an aw... : phate81
  • space illegal aliens : Reeves
• I want to play but I'm stuck at work RAWR : Omning
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  All this RDR talk has kept this song playing in my head for days http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjFaenf1T... : beastrabban
  • pschobilly? You linked to "Home" right? Great, nay, awesome song but I am so confused about psychobill... : anhero
• OMG THERE IS A MAIN LAND WTF? : fsck
• MY HERO : NastyJack
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  It was mid afternoon. If I had to guess, I'd say damn near close to 3 when I came across Macallister. A s... : eonix
  • This post needs more attention. : sogelegos
  • cool story :) : supermonkeyballz
• Bruce Willis was a ghost the whole time! : timaste
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  Where can I go? : GoldfishInAJarOfPickles
  • Italy? : smackpiece
  • Hungary? : spiderfill
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    Wherever it is, may he go? : DianeOfTheMoon
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      Let him go : limpossible
      • We will not let him go. : BlackCat9
    • And it is.. wherever... I go : Flinz
  • Roam free young Grasshopper! : hashd
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  I hear this game is pretty crappy. Is this true? : Drewus
  • I also heard that you can't swim or fly at all. Lame. : Drewus
  • I wasn't a fan initially but this is far becoming one of the best games I've ever played. It was too muc... : sludge vohaul
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    apparently, it is really easy to accidentally shoot your horse in the head. And the horse-riding control... : CRasterImage
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      I think the horse controls are really intuitive. It feels like it should. I only wish for two things- 1... : chrisschutz
      • Are helicopters going to be added in DLC? : Drewus
      • Ya, real horses don't have jump buttons. They jump instinctually. : CRasterImage
    • havent done it once : sludge vohaul
    • i've only done it once when dead-eye fucked me and it was either me or my horse. the controls for the hor... : stgulik
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      What happens when your horse dies? : Big Luke
      • The good ones go to horse heaven. : Flinz
  • It has taken me three tries to like the game. : RuffasBluetain
• i like u : m0rfus
• Anyone playing on ps3? Hit me up, exitbutton : exit button
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  So I thought I found a bug because my pistol kept getting switched back to the cattlemens revolver until ... : chrisschutz
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    ammo is freaking expensive too : shackwack
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      At all the save sites there's always a box which you can get ammo out of, gives ammo for every gun that's... : boredguy
      • I have a volcano pistol that NEVER has any ammo. I buy every safehouse I find and I have the upgraded cam... : chrisschutz
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  I am having a shit of a time lassoing a new horse. I can't get them to stay put long enough to ditch my ... : Majuju
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    Keep left trigger held down, dismount, walk over to the horse, mount it. : chrisschutz
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      ooohhhhhhh. : Majuju
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        hey! is there any way to tell what horse you've got currently? or is it just guesswork? : Majuju
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          Press Up on the D-pad and go to the blue icon. : eonix
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            What? What does that do besides bring your horse to you? : trove
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              yeah, sorry, I meant which breed of horse, as opposed to "where is my horse". : Majuju
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                I'm trying to figure this out as well. I went out and broke two horses that appear to have high musclatu... : trove
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                  I cant figure out speed, but I've noticed stamina goes down faster on some then others. That makes me won... : kelerian
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                    Well your horse also gains more stamina if you keep it around and use it more. That could account for so... : Sapiens
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                      Here's a little horse mini guide I posted late last night- The deeds for horses have 1-3 stars on them. ... : chrisschutz
                      • this needs some +inf love or something : Sapiens
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    Where the fuck do you buy a saddle for a new horse you grab?! : Skoal^Fyfan
    • It'll just be there next time you call for it : chrisschutz
• Anyone down for some multi on the 360]g? Add BigBadRey !! : Thud
• I appreciate the temp ban, it easy enough to spoiler and some people like to play in a complete vacuum wh... : massdev
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  Fuck this game is slow and boring. 20 minutes in and I've ridden a horse along the most boring path ever.... : multisync
  • just wait until you start rounding up cattle. That's where the fun begins. : denixen
  • It's painful at first but it gets way, way better. I'd suggest doing Bonnie's missions until you get a l : pyide
  • M'sync. I am sorry you aren't liking it so far. I think you will soon though. Tons of cool stuff later. A... : conandan
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    Wow horse riding is painful and races. Fuck this. 10 more minutes I'm giving this stupid game before mail... : multisync
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      That first race you are not suppose to win. : conandan
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        haha what? It's easy to win that : pancake humper
        • I didn't. I wasn't even close. : conandan
      • really, i didn't find it very difficult. : akirabob
      • The one against Bonnie? You can win it. : BlackCat9
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        I got bucked off the horse and still won that race. : Arcanum
        • i got bucked off twice before realizing why i was being bucked off. i was so far behind but i caught up ... : dantastic
      • Lol I destroyed Bonnie in that race. : prime8
      • lol : wtf242
      • ^^^ Finally! Someone worse at video games than I am. Congratulations. : ThomW
      • conandan I lost that race really badly : crummynz
      • I lost as well. : Bamii
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      It only takes a few minutes to get used to the horse controls. You just have to remember you aren't steer... : pyide
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        Holding up makes you go faster? : BlackCat9
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          No. : conandan
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            No, it makes he horse go forward. Tap A (X on PS3) to speed up and hold A to stay at your desired speed. ... : pyide
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              Misreply to blackcat9, oops : pyide
              • Pushing forward on the stick makes the horse move forward slowly no matter what direction the camera is f... : conandan
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              Only... holding A doesn't really maintain your speed unless you are following an NPC during a mission. T... : Chester Copperpot
              • I think you can hold A to maintain speed, but even at your top cruising speed, you can still go faster by... : BlackCat9
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                Holding A will maintain any speed you want from slow to fast. When following someone and the stamina bar ... : pyide
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                  When I want to go max speed I generally hold the button and double tap it from time to time. On a trail I... : pyide
                  • ^ this is what I do : crummynz
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        One the horse starts running you don't have to hold up on the stick anymore. : riptyde
        • I know but it's still easier for me to make smaller left & right corrections doing it. And like conandan ... : pyide
      • Yeah, I actually really enjoy how the horse controls. It took me a couple hours but feels pretty natural... : atom519
    • This post makes me sad. Grow a pair and at least give it a couple hours before you give up. :( The firs... : Sapiens
  • "And now I'm inundated with more dialog I don't give a shit about. " Return it. This game is heavily s... : eonix
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  I rode to Thieves Landing to purchase a new outfit I just unlocked. When I entered the town I saw a guy t... : doctorbfunk
  • lol. : pyide
  • Oh man I didn't know that shopkeep was a nasty : chrisschutz
  • In Soviet Russia Red Dead shopkeep rapes you! : etherboy
  • Lol! : prime8
  • haha wow. when is this game coming to pc... then I can play and not accidentally shot the wrong person. : GoldfishInAJarOfPickles
  • that's legendary. : MercFox1
• If you die you get reset to the last save? Did GTA4 do this? I had a ton of wolf hearts before a fucking ... : drhazard
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  Every time I go to Thieves Landing I get challenged to a duel, and every time I die before the tutorial t... : beanman101283
  • Start > Journal > Brief Read it in there. : eonix
  • You can still control it while the tutorial text is up there. : ArcKnight
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    The duels are pretty easy, just aim for the other guy's gun hand to shoot the gun out of it for maximum f... : trove
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      I guess I'm missing something simple, pulling the right trigger doesn't seem to shoot. Do you need to be ... : beanman101283
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        Hmm, I think you just use the right stick to move the aim point and it makes little xs where the bullets ... : trove
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          Hold the left trigger to go into horseshoe aim mode. Center the spike inside the horseshoe (from your po... : riptyde
          • You forgot the most important part. You have to push the right stick forward/back fast enough so that the... : getfrisky
• Just bought it on my lunch break. Argh, want to get home and play, stupid billable hours - nothing like l... : MaddeningLoop
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  Have played probably 10 hours or so. Feel like I haven't brushed the yet. Game is just fucking awesome. : [fry]
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    I want a Winchester lever-action rifle IRL now. :( : riptyde
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      My grandpa has 2 lever action 30-30's, I'm gonna see if he'll let me buy one or something. : MagicWishMonkey
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        Buy 2 and send me one. he doesn't need that shit anymore now that he's old. : riptyde
        • He sold his farm and lives on in a small house in Gilmer now, he doesn't have anywhere to shoot anything.... : MagicWishMonkey
      • A 30-30 lever action rifle has some serious kick! : angrytaxman
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  i wish i could find out how good my horse is : wtf242
  • give it a lick : mindshot
  • Fondle his balls : Drewus
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    is there really much (any?) differences between the horses? : valael
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      There's huge differences as you go from 1 to 2 to 3 stars. As for within, say, the 2 star category, i ca... : riptyde
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        Where do you see these stars? : pyide
        • in the general store. it's on the icon for the horse deed when you are in the buying menu : riptyde
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        Can you buy a saddle for wild ones you catch? I grab one, but when I whistle - my horse w/ a saddle alway... : Skoal^Fyfan
        • you have to tie them up to one of those bars in a town... then they become your "trusted steed" : wtf242
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      some are $1,500 and some are $150.. so i assume? My good one i wrangled with that ranch slut died so I wr... : wtf242
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        I thought if your horse dies you can just whistle and he'll come back? If you've hitched them at least o... : trove
        • Mine died and a different horse came when I whistled. During the next mission my old one was back though.... : pyide
        • Didn't work that way for me. A different horse came when I whistled. : riptyde
        • that's how it works for me. mine has died plenty and it's always that same bonnie quest one that i get : mwasher
        • difference horse came for me : wtf242
        • The only way to get a horse back after it's died is if you have the deed for it. Otherwise it'll give you... : chrisschutz
  • My warhorse is awesome! : SockMonkeh
  • the horse made out of guns is the best one : Sapiens
  • I have no idea how they messed this up. It's such a simple thing. There's a tab for your gun stats, why i... : skinlab133
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  FUCK COUGARS I just saved a woman's stolen wagon and as she was thanking me, out of nowhere a cougar m... : Majuju
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    seriously, i shot one of these things 3 times yesterday while on horse back and it just fucking gimped me... : akirabob
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      I managed to knife the shit outta one, but they're INSANE-O DEADLY. : Majuju
      • HELL YEAH just knifed my second one, now I'm a Rank 5 Master Hunter. : Majuju
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        this is exactly as it should be! cougars rule, man : CecilPhilpot
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          SO ALSO IN KINDERGARTEN I APPARENTLY THOUGHT THAT THE KIDS IN MY CLASS DIDN'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT COUGARS F : Enkidu
          • lol what : minigomp
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    I was killed by a cougar literally 6 times in a row at spawn in a free roam game. Fucking spawn camping c... : SockMonkeh
    • if only you could play as a cougar in free roam! : CecilPhilpot
• fuck i want to read all these stories so bad!! I may never forgive gamefly for taking 5+ days to ship me ... : RetroRedEyeJr
• I tried to get it during my lunch break... the store doesn't have it yet. Fuck! : MacemanInTW
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  Super easy way to earn money if you are low on funds: there is a side mission where this guy in Armadill : riptyde
  • Hrm, I might have to try this. Thanks. Are the sniper rifles worth the money? I want to buy one, b... : atom519
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  lol someone just stole my horse as i was helping someone being kidnapped. that aint right! : riptyde
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    fucking road agents! one flagged me down as i was riding to armadillo with the whole "omg hey i need a r... : Sapiens
    • Here's a trick when your horse gets stolen- whistle : chrisschutz
• This is a game that really needs to be travelogued more than reviewed. Earlier, I was riding back from... : slax0r
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  how do you hogtie and drag people while riding a horse? all i can seem to do is carry them on horse or by... : Unleashed
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    Just lasso them while riding. Don't get off and hogtie them. : pyide
    • gotta keep LT held down as well : riptyde
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  The movie was pretty funny, anyone watch it yet : Tattoo Trav
  • cocaine gets rid of tapeworks is awesome : supermonkeyballz
  • the worms flying out the guy's ass were hilarious : smax
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  This game has moments in it that piss me off. I was going after my first big bounty ($240 Alive which ... : Sailor of Fortune
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    I've found that first-time fuckups in RDR like those are really entertaining, especially deaths. Until I... : Sapiens
    • Looking back they are entertaining yes. But the one that pissed me off was the poker one. I was comfor... : Sailor of Fortune
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    I had one bounty mission where I kill the guy's goons and capture and hogtie the bad guy. Start to carry... : riptyde
    • Yeah, I just run like the wind now once I hogtie and mount the guy. : Sailor of Fortune
    • i noticed this as well. when i killed my first bounty i started looting all of the corpses and waves of ... : Sapiens
  • I would be laughing through each of those moments. Those sound awesome. It is time for to re-up on my 360 : anhero
• Lol I was riding down the road, and this other guy on the road suddenly jumped off his horse, ran over to... : riptyde
• I wish someone could ban for a year the assfuck that spoiled season 4 of Dexter when he couldn't get his ... : proclone1
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  Also here's a PROTIP, change the horse controls in options to Camera Centric from Horse Oriented or whate... : Sailor of Fortune
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    Really? I didn't think so at all. With horse oriented controls up on the left stick always keeps the hors... : pyide
    • Camera oriented makes it more like the Warthog. Horse Oriented is fine in one direction until you have... : Sailor of Fortune
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  question for a mission an hour or two in im doing that mission where you have to shoot a skull for that s : feek
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    It was bright and shiny for me, it's on the house. : boredguy
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      do you remember any more specifically? like, above the porch? : feek
      • Middle of the house but slightly to the right. In front of one of the dudes standing there : spiderfill
  • it's SUPER obvious. if you can't see it then i suspect you're blind or it's bugged. you can't miss it.. i... : wtf242
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  holy shit, just went south. epic scenery change and all of a sudden i have music with lyrics! :D : mwasher
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    Was it Mariachi? : hashd
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      no, but there is that as well. also got level 3 dead eye so luckily they don't make you wait a long time... : mwasher
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        oh yea... i wasn't sure how well i was really liking it when i started playing, but now i'm around 12 hou... : mwasher
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          Haha yeah it is a sweet game I am holding off till later this week when I have a ton of free time to real... : hashd
          • i have a feeling this part of the game is gonna be better than the american west : mwasher
  • yeah that surprised me : smax
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  It is ridiculously easy to get sidetracked in this game. I've been meaning to save it for 15min now and ... : atom519
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    "Hey mister, can I have a ride?" *gun* : NFXFSX
    • I hear gun shots once rode over to a wagon some people were robbing, before I even had a chance to reach ... : hirosushima
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  Fuck me. Last night I got of my horse to pick a flower when a cougar jumped me. First he killed my horse ... : Bamii
  • They are pissed for not getting Kim Bauer. : NFXFSX
• multisync can you recant your statement about me being an idiot? : oHnOES
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  I still have no fucking idea why I'm having button problems in game. Reinstall didn't do anything. : moe6
  • I ran into a bug last night where the Y button wouldn't do anything. I reloaded and it was fine : Sailor of Fortune

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• that sucks, it's like the xbox just eats new releases for breakfast. : RetroRedEyeJr
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  they should have two xbox's inside each one, so when one fails, the other takes over. : radula
  • that is genius. : khaosman
  • lol, mind = explode : technotica
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  I thought microsoft fixed this shit with new hardware. : whistletits
  • Its probably not going to be completely fixed until they release a 360 Slim or something like that. : Shadowdane
  • Is it a jasper? : KxRook
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  have you had a jasper yet or have they all been repaired/refurbed? : dantastic
  • I have a jasper unit. I played for at least 5-8 hours straight today, no issues. Then again, my 360 is si... : unholydonuts
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    I dunno. It has the hdmi input : whistletits
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      Every version since the first one has HDMI. That doesn't mean it's a Jasper. : deveus1
      • You may want to look that up. Xenon and Opus based consoles did not have HDMI. : -phazey-
      • lol no : hashd
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      When did you buy it? : deveus1
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        about 2 years ago. I've never got a refurb unit cause best buy has always replaced it with a new unit. So... : whistletits
        • there's a chance it could be a falcon : dantastic
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  Bleh won't buy a 360 until this is over... : PixelPie
  • I don't understand this. I'm not a fanboy as I actually use my PS3 more than my 360, but if a company wi... : chadg033
  • The new ones are fine and I haven't heard a report of someone with an actual Jasper board that has had it... : deveus1
  • See you in the next generation then.. : Drewus
  • You are missing out on a lot of games. It is like $199 now : JMro
  • Jasper seems to be reliable finally though. No telling still but I'm more confident of spending what amou... : moe6
• My ps3 has been on since the game came out I just pause when I sleep and work. I barely touch my 360 exce... : hashd
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  That happened to me yesterday, I fixed it by slamming my xbox on my bed a few times. : MagicWishMonkey
  • Do you do that with the woman if she "red rings" as well ? ^^ : Lukiopimp
• Mine is coming back tomorrow. Or rather the 3rd shitty refurb they're sending me is coming. I hardly even... : Albemuth
• Put it in the microwave to kill the evil spirits inside : YerMothah
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  I rented RDR and my 360 won't read the disk :/ It's been having issues reading games so I usually copy... : Shai-Tan
  • and the other fall 2008 360 I bought also has the same issue :( : Shai-Tan
• The Curse of RDR strikes AGAIN. In other news RROD is such a horrendous blight, I know thy pain. : massdev
• Can you still take RDR back and get the PS3 version? : technotica
• Red dead, indeed. : ArtilleryMarker
• Red Dead Ring : kallanta
• i liked this, http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/o-crimson-ring/344542 : technotica
• RDRRROD! : silentbobuk

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• I would like to know this as well : JohnnyRey
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  its always on sale so i'm going to guess that no, no one has bought the game. : StolenNosferatu
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    No, it isn't always on sale. The game has 41 expansions released in the past 12 months and every time a n... : baron calamity
    • well holy shit. I've just always seen them on there when i look at specials : StolenNosferatu
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  I have a friend who is big into trains. He has a group of friends that gather once a week just just sit o... : baron calamity
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    I can get into flight simulator for sure. But train simulator? I mean you are on a track! : JohnnyRey
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      It's like Forklift simulators except without the crashes. : Hemtroll
      • lol : JohnnyRey
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      Well, wait a minute. Can you pull the horn? : Goto10
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        Yes, and it's the most exciting thing you can do. : lunarbunny
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          But can't you also choose to go faster OR slower depending on your mood? : Goto10
          • Faster, FASTER, oh god ye- Oh wait, we're talking about trains. : lunarbunny
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    baron, is this "friend" you? : CrustaR
    • no way. My dad was a railman and I saw all of the trains I wanted as a kid. However I would love another ... : baron calamity
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  $581.98 for all DLC. Not including the price of the original game. : NFXFSX
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    that is retarded : JohnnyRey
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      Compared to a physical train set eating up an entire bedroom downstairs, no, it's not. : Lunatic Angelic
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        compared to what normal software costs in the current market, yes. : JohnnyRey
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          what does "normal software" mean? : electroly
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            It isn't normal software for sure. : baron calamity
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              exactly. it's super niche. you've gotta expect prices to be higher as a result of the tiny market : electroly
              • I guess...but still : JohnnyRey
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  From what I understand, train hobbyists can be a bit obsessive. : The Grolar Bear
  • Its an eccentric interest it seems. I remember doing a repair job on this guy apartment (I was working f... : Lightzout
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  Every sim game has a hardcore audience. I used to play a good amount of IL:2 and the community surroundin... : hirosushima
  • Oh yes. : limpossible
  • fly with me sometime! : RetroRedEyeJr
  • i spent nearly $400 on my HOTAS setup + TrackIR for another $150, so... : valael
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  You know what? Fuck it. I just bought it. I will tell you if it's fun or crap. I'm leaning towards the la... : JohnnyRey
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    I bet you get addicted and fall in love with it. : Goto10
    • Also, pics of you playing with conductors hat on. : Goto10
    • lol probably : JohnnyRey
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    I'm actually kind of curious myself. I have no idea wtf you would do in the simulator. : aethyr
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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZAgxoU16GE : Goto10
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        The inside of the train looks like shit. : NFXFSX
        • The inside of the train The entire game : CrustaR
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      go straight : sludge vohaul
      • You just saved him the trouble of buying the strategy guide. : ShoCon
    • Well, living in a country with crazy good public transportation (Japan), there is a bit of an art, or tec... : Nighteyes
  • Tomorrow: How the fuck do you start the fucking train!?! : Lunatic Angelic
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    This will be great. : kallanta
    • ^ has gotten addicted before. : MercFox1
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    You should have bought World of Subways instead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2kMWdrSk_tg : shortbuscaptain
    • this looks awesome haha : feek
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    Definitely let us know, I've often wondered. : loboca
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      Won't be as hard as this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oucXaEZG0vM : Lunatic Angelic
      • lol, excessive much? : NFXFSX
      • Ahahah, holy crap! : loboca
      • Meh not realistic enough for my tastes.. : Goto10
      • Holycrap : chungathebunga
      • wtf, might as well fly a real helicopter. : destinyofdeath
      • that video would have been so awesome if, after all that nonsense to get started, he got about 50 feet up... : strider_
      • lol, that's so ridiculous. I love when games try to be authentic and realistic to a point where most woul... : Mr. Goodwrench
  • And that's the last we heard of JohnnyRey for a while conveniently ignoring his later reply : MercFox1
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    Their plan worked. Advertise something enough and somebody will buy it just for the hell of it. : Nixx2004
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      There is actually a pretty big sim market ,we just don't hear about it much here on the shack. The gamers... : shortbuscaptain
      • Also I must note that Euro Truck Simulator is quite impressive. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R_R2Hm... : shortbuscaptain
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        I literally said 'oh my god' when I saw the start of this and realized what it was. Heh. It almost loo : Nixx2004
        • Looks like a hardcore farmville. : Goto10
• I got it for my dad, who is into trains. Not sure if he ever "played" with it yet though. : bosst0ne
• Re-release of Bridgebuilder? : abrasion
• That shit sells like crazy in Germany. : node

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  Psst: Hey Gabe, nintendo has a new console out. PS: You won't like it. : ventro
  • I'm sure he knows that and why he didn't mention it. lol : Godhatesfatpeople
• http://www.shackpics.com/files/steamlol_1muzyk5m291ql47iyp9j.jpg : aeg1x
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  i'm not even sure what that really means : qwpeoriu
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    yeah, having never owned a mac or a gamecube i am totally lost on this one. i do own a ps3 though! open s... : dirge23
    • I don't really get it either. Licensing fees maybe? All console platforms are closed, even the 360. : pyide
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    It means faggots disabling linux are earning themselves a bad name. : abrasion
    • I was just about to say. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Okay. He was specifically asked about why the Mac before the PS3 and the answer is that it's more open. T... : BlackCat9
  • GG Kotaku. : pyide
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    In fact, the OS is even more exposed for tinkering with than Windows. Please back this up. : Fred Garvin
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      Well, it's basically a BSD kernal with Apple's GUI. The entire OS is scriptable, so you can set up basica... : BlackCat9
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        Have you heard of Powershell? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_PowerShell : Fred Garvin
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          Nope. Does it have kernal-level access or does it run on top of an abstraction layer? : BlackCat9
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            I suggest you read up on it before assuming that OSX is somehow more "tinkering" friendly. : Fred Garvin
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              Only if you start doing the same. : BlackCat9
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                this would be the perfect opportunity for a linux nerd to call both of you fags. : Hoax
                • lol : Godhatesfatpeople
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                Well, I am aware of what can be done on a *nix system as I have installed various distros over the years.... : Fred Garvin
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                  FYI, Powershell has been around since XP. : Fred Garvin
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                    Since it appears to run on .NET, I'm guessing you can't boot Powershell from the kernal, though? : BlackCat9
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                      What are you saying? Can you run a Powershell script from a command prompt? Yes you can. : Fred Garvin
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                        I thought they were going to remove the option to boot to a command prompt after Windows XP, but I guess ... : BlackCat9
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                          I read your sentences and they don't make any sense. : retarded talking dinosaur
                          • Sorry, I was trying to determine if Windows still allowed you to get to the command prompt at boot-up, li... : BlackCat9
                        • I suggest you and Fred both read this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU. It was an interesting choice by ... : dfay
                        • ya i recal something like that, but i dun think they removed it completely. Im pretty sure there is st... : technotica
                    • why the fuck would a script run on the --- what the fuck are you talking about?? : retarded talking dinosaur
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              You're totally out of your element, Fred. Actually, most of the time you are but right now you are really : Yanks
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                So, where am I wrong here? I have compiled kernels and rewritten configs in Linux and used Powershell. : Fred Garvin
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                  so? : RikiTiki2
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                    No, but mother does and I am still waiting to see where I am wrong in this thread. : Fred Garvin
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                      A Unix system is a kernel, a few daemons and everything else is sh scripts. You can get a text editor, ed... : jcupitt
                      • To give an example, what happens when you plug in a USB device? On Windows ... erm, well, I've no idea, b... : jcupitt
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        What are the shell prompts to use sudo and the "supply admin password" boxes if they're not "are you sure... : SiW.
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          It's security, like in any *nix box. It serves a different purpose than keeping the user from deleting sh... : BlackCat9
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            And what does that have to do with your point about OSX being more "open"? : Fred Garvin
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              In both Linux and Mac, you can write to any script that controls the functionality of parts of the OS, su... : BlackCat9
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                I still don't understand how you are equating confirmation prompts with an OS not being open to "tinkerin... : Fred Garvin
                • Furthermore you can completely disable those prompts if you so desire. : retarded talking dinosaur
              • BTW here are just some of the PS scripts out there and as you can see they can do a lot: http://gallery.... : Fred Garvin
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        It's unbelievable, truly unbelievable, how misinformed this is. : airrob
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          I guess unbelievable isn't the right word - it's believable. Depressing? Amusing? Astounding? : airrob
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            For one - "And it doesn't give a hundred "Are you sure you want to do that?" prompts before you do any of... : airrob
            • So the part that makes me misinformed is that the thing that has historically been annoying in Windows is... : BlackCat9
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        hahaha, what do the prompts have to do with tinkering? your argument is hilarious and I really don't thin... : moshman
        • The prompts have nothing to do with tinkering, it has to do with the design intent of the OS. You should ... : BlackCat9
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      He's probably basing it on the fact that it's built on BSD, most of which is now open source. : spazzium
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        Right, but OSX isn't OSS correct? Do they contribute back to BSD source? : Fred Garvin
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          Haha, well. Apple has had a rocky relationship with the open source branches. Basically it's the same t... : spazzium
          • Yeah, exactly. Like I show below, Apple makes a lot of source available and it's up to the maintainers w... : SiW.
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          http://www.opensource.apple.com/ Or more specifically when talking about their OS patches, http://www.... : SiW.
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            Okay, so they open source changes they made to OSS libraries, but keep other things closed? : Fred Garvin
            • Right. The entire framework for the GUI for instance is all theirs. : spazzium
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              Oh, the lower level Darwin stuff? AFAIK it's all at http://sourceforge.net/projects/darwinsource/ and th... : SiW.
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                So, you could probably build a command line only version of OSX? : Fred Garvin
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                  There's a basic command sell that comes as part of the OS, but yeah, you could probably build your own an... : BlackCat9
                  • Please stop. The word you are looking for is kernEl. No A : retarded talking dinosaur
                  • There's a fine tradition of misspelling kernel in computing! (Early Commodore) : Fayk
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                  You can check out and install a fully working Darwin system, which will give you everything but the Cocoa... : DianeOfTheMoon
                  • actually i think most osx86 distros are 100% illegal. the way the osx86 people do it now is to create a b... : retarded talking dinosaur
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                    how is Xserver tied to macs? x11 is normal *nix. : ibrokn
                    • I didn't say it was, just that the install should include one. : DianeOfTheMoon
        • A few things, but not every part of the OS. http://www.apple.com/opensource/ : BlackCat9
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          There's no single 'BSD source' to contribute back to; it was originally 4.3BSD derived but now contains '... : zakk
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            And for those that don't know: the BSD license does not require you contribute changes back, or open sour... : zakk
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              yeah the BSD license is essentially "do whatever the fuck you want" : mikecyb
              • There was once some interview where they asked Rasterman (the guy who wrote Enlightenment, if you know wh... : zakk
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    There's probably more Mac owners who would buy his stuff than PS3 owners. : Sailor of Fortune
    • plus mouse+keyboard and all that : RikiTiki2
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    So the same reasoning would stand for "why Mac before Xbox 360" right? : ThrillKill
    • I think Valve has a lot of factors to consider that lead to why they've supported the platforms they've s... : BlackCat9
• I swear fanboys cannot for the fucking life of them handle any] criticism thrown at their precious purcha... : Godhatesfatpeople
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  One of the commenters at kotaku said (and I agree) that most likely Gaben's objection has more to do with... : dfay
  • But isn't PSN more open? on Live you have to charge for updates. : SpaecKow
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  why are kotaku commentators so dumb? Or, hell, to be fair, why are people on the internet so dumb in gene : DeBurgo
  • i'd like to say it's a product of kotaku being shitty, but the whole internet is like that :( : RikiTiki2
  • Whacky headlines get hits. : Fred Garvin
  • This is why I close the youtube comment system when the video loads up. : Godhatesfatpeople
• doesn't this count as trolling? what does one have to do with the other? Shouldn't he compare PC and Mac... : ThrillKill
• Surely Gabe must be trolling!!!!!1!!1!11! : cdrd
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  Macs are "open" ? : Milleh
  • Yes. Did you expect them to only run iPhone apps? : BlackCat9
  • I am not sure how related this is to the conversation of openness but I have always been impressed that O... : crimrOw