Morning Discussion

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• http://bit.ly/dxz30g - for easy clicking... I suck at links. : MorrisatCNN
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  Yay California. The state with all-but-legal marijuana. : dognose
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    And as-of-yet-illegal gay marriage. : Ride-My-Rocket
    • California is bloody bizarre, it's the coastal middle class verse the middle of nowhere rednecks with a b... : locater16
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  I blame Ebert. : mrwolf710
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    Games aren't art... they're drugs! : gooblerampling
    • Maybe we should sell them in the pot stores then. : hashd
• Just not much to say about it for now. Gotta wait and see what they do, but I expect games to be further ... : geedeck
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  clickable link w/o creepy click tracking: http://www.cnbc.com/id/36782887 : biskits
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    Yeah, I know. I hate Bit.ly too... It just helps me make my case to companies/clients for future pitches ... : MorrisatCNN
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      Why don't you just make a page at CNN that does the same thing? That's what sites used to do before bit.l... : fluffy64
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        Um, because I left CNN a while ago and am a freelancer now? :) I mean... I wouldn't be pimpin' a CNBC ... : MorrisatCNN
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          you might be if the quality of journalism mattered to you more than the publisher! i'm just bein a dick : Herman Toothrot
          • also, i totally missed the part where you wrote the article : Herman Toothrot
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          you should change your handle to MorrisonTheCouch : biskits
          • I wish. I work more and harder as a freelancer than I have in 20 years. It's mainly the uncomfortable hom... : MorrisatCNN
          • The way I read that was Morrison, the couch : Schnapple
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    why would you do this to MorrisatCNN? : Slowtreme
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      because biskits has asperger's : ArcKnight
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        and you have stalker tendencies : biskits
        • and i have a jar of mustard. : Dschinghis Khan
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          it's more that you make these kinds of posts all the time. : ArcKnight
          • also you have some lint on your left arm : ArcKnight
          • what kinds of posts, arcknight? let's have it out. : biskits
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    Bit.ly's tracking doesn't seem that creepy compared to what cnbc could track anyway. : Jonathan
    • This. I count about a half dozen trackers on their site. : spazzium
  • You hate freedom. : spazzium
  • Hey guess what cnbc tracks the same statistics that bit.ly does! : OverloadUT
  • 'creepy' hahaha. on today's show biskits learns how the internet works! : mikecyb
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  I don't see why this would turn out much differently than violent movies : fluffy64
  • SCOTUS seems technophobic at times. It may turn out much differently. : grimygopher
• powerful enough to corrupt the nations youth. not powerful enough to be art. ban video games yo : spiderfill
• Sounds so familiar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics_Code_Authority : gooblerampling
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  awwwe Morris, you're special to CNBC.com <3 : skinlab133
  • My editor sometimes argues I should be in the Special Olympics. : MorrisatCNN
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  So are movies regulated by the industry and not the states? : stgdz
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    sales regulation that is : stgdz
    • True, MPAA governs ratings and sales. : locater16
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  The thing i don't understand is what difference does it make to most of us? I mean, you will still be ab... : Galadriel07
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    That's a fair question. And I don't think anyone is arguing that little Timmy should be able to play Spla... : MorrisatCNN
    • Well, I don't necessarily think that kids should be seeing violent movies any more than violent video gam... : Galadriel07
• Games aren't art, games aren't free speech... the anti-game forces are busy this year! : SeaLlama
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  This is all a bunch of bullshit to begin with. Why dont they spend their time smoking their half legal ca... : technotica
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    unless they are worried about games turning into porn, in which case... hrm... ya id prolly spend alot of... : technotica
    • how is this an inconvenience for the whole country? It is inconvenient for 1) people under 18 that shoul... : Galadriel07
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  I never understand why this is an issue or a big deal. Rating systems are a good thing, what makes it so ... : tcs
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    "Rating systems are a good thing, what makes it so bad if they're codified in law? " I agree, and have... : technotica
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      OK, so it's mostly a slippery slope thing. If the government gets involved in regulating games at all, wh... : tcs
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        Right, it's not the government's job to nanny these kids. Parents have to be held responsible for the med... : Duffman8369
        • Yes, a 18+ rating shouldn't even mean 'not for kids', all it should mean is 'your parents decide'. Wha... : tcs
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  It's not a decision. They're just agreeing to hear the case, it is no indication of whether they're going... : yoonix
  • They decided to see it though, as opposed to throw it like some expected them to. : crummynz
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    Granting cert is a decision in itself. : lechuck59
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      Granting cert is a decision in the sense that they might be able to produce some valuable opinion from th... : yoonix
      • Of course not, but that isn't Morris' point. : lechuck59

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• I'd have been shocked if it didn't happen : mrtony
• hahahah this is getting good : askedrelic
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  holy fuck apple got a warrant to raid his shit??? apple vs. the information age is afoot. sorry appl... : Downforce
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    Considering they were knowingly in possession of stolen property, I have little sympathy for Gizmodo. : Evil Benius
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      Lost, not stolen. Also, freedom of the press. This one is gonna be good :D : r_Ed
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        I think someone mentioned that in CA it is considered stolen under those circumstances. : Evil Benius
        • I was not aware...in that case the question of stolen property vs journalistic protection will be a thorn... : r_Ed
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          this is correct. Trading currency for a lost item is considered theft and with the amount Gizmodo paid it... : two50six
          • Except Gizmodo didn't charge Apple when they returned it. They paid a third party. In fact, the guy who f... : zipper76
      • I think the whole taking it apart was one of the issues when they knowingly had lost/stolen property was ... : Iwannaacura
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      I think this is all hilarious. But when did finding something become theft? : .frame
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        When they purchased it knowing full well it didn't belong to the seller. : marmite
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          If you find an ipod on the side of the highway and no one is around to claim it, does it not become your ... : .frame
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            Except there was someone around to claim it, and Gizmodo knew full well who it was. : Dimmona
            • I guess you have a point. : .frame
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              they could't know for sure until they opened it up, right? : edgewise
              • that was pretty much the first thing they did, they knew full well : two50six
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            I think this is a little different than that. The guy found it in a bar and was able to find out who owne... : Evil Benius
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              I don't know much about the law here. If you find something at a bar, and you see who it belongs to ... : .frame
              • These laws designed by Apple in California. : r_Ed
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                Yes. In California it is 100% certainly considered theft. : Amadan
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                  that is kinda lame in my opinion. : .frame
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                    Not when it's your shit that's been stolen. : LilCrypto
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                      I don't consider it theft if someone leaves it in a public place. I have lost things before. Yes it suc... : .frame
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                        Now, what if that person that found your shit turns around and sells it to someone? : Brian Leahy
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                          still sucks but isn't theft in my opinion. I'm the one who lost it. : .frame
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                            It's whatever the law says and also what stipulations are on the product. Like if a courier for the US... : Sailor of Fortune
                            • Legally it's what the law says. Absolutely, however...not so much. Just because there's a law that sa... : Ebu
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                              You guys sound like lawyers. : jim bone
                              • Well, we are talking about a legal issue...so... : Ebu
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                          Them selling it is irrelevent. Yo are deprived of it equally as much whetherthe finder sells it or keeps ... : noxiousgg
                          • Forgive the iPhone typing errors. : noxiousgg
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                        But he is ... You know the person is gonna call the bar asking for his phonewhen he sobers up and so you ... : imperator
                        • "you might as well be lifting it out of his pocket" I don't agree with that at all. : .frame
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                        What if it was your wallet? : tbreffni
                        • It sucks. Keep track of your shit. I would think it was right to return the property, but not theft to... : Ebu
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                        what if you leave your car in a public place, like in a parking lot : OrkO
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                          a car and house are a bit different than consumer electronics. A car is registered to you for one thing. : .frame
                          • So what you are saying is that it is only there if someone else can tell the thing isn't yours when you s... : SilverSnake
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                        I guess say if you leave your watch on a chair, and someone picks it up, it's still your watch and you le... : steelsamurai
                        • I think this subthread has already gone on way to long so I'll summarize my stance with this. Finders ... : .frame
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                        What kind of shitty mentality is that? You say it sucks to lose stuff in a public place. Of course it doe... : Nighteyes
                        • finders keepers losers weepers! : .frame
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                    What the fuck kind of entitlement complex is this? You wouldn't turn a found item in to a bar's lost and ... : rudds
                    • It's a just world bias. Nothing wrong can ever happen so anything wrong that happens should be blamed on ... : Sailor of Fortune
              • Yes. : Evil Benius
              • I found a wallet at a bar, it was in your pocket. : one random winner
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                Well, in this case it goes beyond that. The details between what happened during the time the iPhone w... : TwiLyght
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                  ...but people from the NYTimes, LATimes, Washington Post, or WSJ would definitely expect something in ret... : dedgecko
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                    There's a big difference for unsaid quid-pro-quo and this. : Brian Leahy
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                      To that I do not dispute. But all this drama is giving Gizmodo a plethora of hits that they otherwise wo... : dedgecko
                      • I wouldn't expect to see Gizmodo or any Gawker outlet invited to an Apple event ever again. Also, hits... : Brian Leahy
              • Makes sense to me... : kaddar0
          • I subscribe to the finders keepers law. : Thornfist
        • This*** they paid what 5k for something they knew didn't belong to who ever found it : Iwannaacura
      • The courts could potentially be swayed by the intent behind Gizmodo's actions. : TwiLyght
  • Same thing would happen if it were a different piece of IP from any other company like Google or MS. : two50six
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  Wow. Apple may be angry, but they're going to get their asses kicked for taking a journalist's computers : geedeck
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    I like how the guy actually showed the cops the email from his company's legal rep stating that what they : r_Ed
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      Cops don't debate legality. They had a warrant and an order to confiscate, so they did. The legal battl... : Ovate
      • They have gun, I have none, do what they say, don't get shot. I think I got it! : r_Ed
    • If the judge issues a warrant, than that is all that matters. Legal will sort it out after. : Dalant
  • nah I'm pretty sure they just found those computers. they were just sitting there! : mikecyb
  • and it's not like somebody stole it and some stupid apple employee didn't lose it in a public location : mrtony
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    ok... i must of missed something big. Why is Apple raiding this guy's stuff?? : Shadowdane
    • Because Gizmodo laid their hands on an iPhone 4 prototype : geedeck
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    Don't give gizmodo the credibility of being called journalists. They're like the US Weekly of gadgetry. : reelbk
    • where to draw the line....hmmmm : r_Ed
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      Journalism is journalism. Either they get protection or no one is safe. : geedeck
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        It gets a little sticky when you get into trade secrets and the fact that they purchased the device, whic... : Brian Leahy
        • Yeah, perhaps I was overblown in my absoluteness, though I do think it more likely falls under one line..... : geedeck
  • yeah. I'm sure the company lawyer is already warming up that law suit. : Ariakus
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    i'm pretty sure apple employees weren't the ones taking his computers : jenisthebest
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      But it was their lawyers who asked for it : geedeck
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        But their lawyers didn't issue the warrant. : jenisthebest
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          they likely issued the complaint that lead to the warrant. : steelsamurai
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            They didn't ask for that though, whoever is investigating the case probably decided on it, not Apple. : ovrlrd
            • I'd be pretty surprised if Apple were not asked their stance on this and if they were prepared to testify... : steelsamurai
• You don't fuck with Jobs. : g0nk
• so much drama...lol : .frame
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  Someone remix me the 1984 commercial post-haste. : Deathlove
  • There was one done a while ago for somethingorother. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKLrNgImm88 : Haxim
  • I am working on one but it just replaces all the screens of the guys face with THE MCRIB IS BACK! : chrisschutz
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  I'm normally against this kind of big company raping stuff, but since it's the twat from gizmondo I think... : moshman
  • nothing funny about apple being a jackass : jonin
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    ^^^ They really needed to be knocked down a few pegs. : theangrywaffles
    • Also, I like how every other story concerning the 4G iPhone takes up huge amounts of space, while this st... : theangrywaffles
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    I'm with you, they've been thumbing their nose at Apple for the last week, wtf did they think was going t... : darcspeed
    • They were ready...the guy had the email from Gizmodo's legal rep printed out to show to the cop...it's ju... : r_Ed
  • I agree on both counts. whoever loses they're all losers. : azenmaster
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  is this about the new iphone they found in the bar? or something else? : gokart.
  • new iPhone round 2: F I G H T ! : r_Ed
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  heh wow. they took everything. : re4ctor
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    so it really wasn't the immigrants taking our jobs... : Amnesty_intl2
    • No, Obama hired terrorists on welfare disguised as mexicans to sneak across the border and take our jobs ... : mrblarg
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  can someone summurize why they raided chen's house? : cptstern
  • He broke the story of the new iphone : ashkie
  • He reported on the new iPhone for Gizmodo. Stolen property = search warrant. The question is whether th... : r_Ed
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    Some guy "found" the new iPhone in a bar, "tried" to return it to apple but got no response. He then sold... : Affliated
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      Let's not forget that gizmodo completely outed the poor fucking engineer that lost the phone. They posted... : reelbk
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        especially humorous considering the sections of the law Gawker is quoting to invalidate the warrant invol... : Borzoi
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          I imagine this is about the guy who sold them the phone? : roggor
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            obviously so, but that piece outing the dude who lost the phone in the first place was such an overt grab... : Borzoi
            • what bugs me the most is the whole thing was checkbook journalism, something that used to be looked down ... : Borzoi
        • Gizmodo's source in this case is whoever sold them the phone. : Wikidd
      • Yep and his facebook and twitter. Extremely tasteless. : two50six
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        Being outed or not, it's not like Apple didn't know who it was. I think they're right that it might serv... : spazzium
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          This makes no sense at all. http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=22733450 : vigilante
          • All good points. I guess I could sum them all up by saying "in the end they're journalists." : spazzium
        • No way. Apple knew and may or may not have fired him, but now everyone knows. The dude will have a real... : Amadan
      • And then, as Daring Fireball has pointed out, they decided to censor the personal details of their guy. : Schnapple
  • He had Chinese food inside. Everyone loves Chinese food. : TwiLyght
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  This is Apple sending a message. Don't fuck around. : Ellissd
  • When it comes to an unreleased IP that I am sure has pending patents, yeah you dont fuck around with that... : two50six
• Is this the guy that reported on the iPhone? That's what you get when you buy stolen property and then re... : gooblerampling
• This brightens up my day. : Kentor
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  It's time ANONYMOUS. : Cygnus X-1
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    Awaken my child : wurt
    • 4-chan is not your personal army. : MercFox1
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  It basically was stolen property. They bought it too which doesn't help. : manlyman
  • They actually bought the story, and the guy gave them the phone. You know like chinese gold farms aren't... : unjustend
• hahahahahhaahah : CoRDS
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  If you ran gizmodo would you have reported it? What if gizmodo had returned the device and, in doing s... : the if
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    you gotta weigh the benefit of the scoop in the bag now vs a potential gratitude freebie from apple in so... : r_Ed
    • No doubt... : the if
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    I'm guessing all the traffic they got was one time traffic so I hope it was enough to cover any lawsuits ... : melkore
    • True, and any shunning -- ?! -- from Apple's grudge, if that's even a worry. But would you have reported... : the if
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      lawsuit would probably generate more hits on their website, so it's a win-win for Gizmodo : r_Ed
      • Unless this shuts them down. Chen is in serious trouble beyond anything thrown at his employer. Warra... : Brian Leahy
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      Gawker CEO says it COST them $20,000 to run the scoop after everything is said and done (legal fees, band... : darcspeed
      • ^^ good link in here ^^ that is a REALLY pertinent article right about now. Of course, there is very r : Downforce
    • I love how they had like 4 massive pages of iPhone 4 coverage with comments, but the Jason Chen thing is ... : two50six
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    personally if I had found it I would have probably thrown it away. I wouldn't have any idea who at Apple... : mikecyb
    • I would of kept it and then traveled overseas to sell to the highest bidder of the Chinese iPhone ripoff ... : zuff
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      Huh? It is rather obvious who to contact at Apple. The Apple employee who lost it, whose contact info i... : vigilante
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        well yes but to your first point I probably would have forgot his contact info and the next morning it wa... : mikecyb
        • also I would have given it to the bartender too so just assume I found it in the street or something! : mikecyb
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    no potentially being banned from any future apple events wouldn't be worth for a day or two of exposur... : Enraged Pineapple
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      They're already banned for life from CES. I'm hoping they'll get banned for life from every major tech ev... : Kentor
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        I'm pretty sure that was just rumor and only one staff member was ultimately banned. They certainly atten... : LilCrypto
        • The last CES is what got some of their staff (maybe all of them?) banned : Serpico74
  • I would only pay to take pictures - not to own the device. : dmason
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    I'd have done what Engadget did. Post pics from the source and let someone else considered the ethics of ... : Jonathan
    • what, responsible journalism, in this day and age? /recordscratch : r_Ed
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    I'd resell it to HTC : moe6
    • Ha, remember what happened when someone from Coke tried to sell their formula to Pepsi? Pepsi turned the... : Amadan
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  On the one hand, frell the po po for breaking into his house over this. Take a chill pill, Apple. On t... : EricZBA
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    i dont know anything about Gawker/Gizmodo's reputation; whats bad about them? i'm curious now... : yAak
    • My hate for them began when they started turning off a dude's TV in the middle of a presentation at CES u... : EricZBA
    • They're just generally immature and unprofessional. Example: http://gizmodo.com/343348/confessions-the-me... : gooblerampling
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  Ummm, Apple doesn't get to say who's house gets searched. The local DA is who authorized this, that and t... : mancide
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    This is a key point. Criminal cases are initiated by and prosecuted by the DA. This incident could be se... : Amadan
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      Maybe Silicon Valley shouldn't let their drunk engineers walk around with trade secrets in their pants. : DarkWolf5
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        Ah, the "she was asking for it" defense. : sgtsanity
        • I just wanted an excuse to say I have a trade secret in my pants" : DarkWolf5
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      This is the thing people are not realzing apple doesn't make this call its the court system : Iwannaacura
      • Of course. Apple couldn't possibly be exerting political pressure to get this pursued. That would just ... : Arcanum
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      KEY POINT : mr.sleepy
      • ummmm : Amadan
  • LOL. What part of billions of dollars don't you understand. Welcome to the real nasty dirty world. : geneshifter
• Good, I'm no Apple fan but reporting on that prototype should have dire consequences. I would assume Mic... : melkore
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  RAPID ENFORCEMENT ALLIED COMPUTER TEAM!! : AlexXdude
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    REACT lol followed by a vist from the RAPID APPLE PROPERTY ENFORCERS : mikecyb
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      RAPID APPLE PROPERTY ENFORCERS inevitable leads to APPLE INTERNAL DIVISION SPECIALISTS : sludge vohaul
      • those guys ruin everything :( : mikecyb
  • REACT Somebody got a pat on the back for thinking of that. Should have found something to spell PROACT : Amadan
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  I like that Steve Jobs has previously said he really likes Gizmodo http://valleywag.gawker.com/tech/cros... : tomservo
  • How things change: http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/live/meeting-steve-jobs-264661.php : Serpico74
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  I love Gizmodo, its a great site for gadget news, however its hard to argue that they arent getting what ... : two50six
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    So yeah...they pretty much got themselves into this mess, and its hard to say that they didnt expect this : r_Ed
    • lol yeah...because its true. I'm pretty disappointed in Gizmodo now really. : two50six
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      http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/media/gawker-owner-gizmodos-iphone-scoop-didnt-make-me-money/19450847/ ... : baconisgod
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        Besides the price of the phone itself, he says, there was the $7,000 in extra bandwidth required to suppo : EricZBA
        • It's all about generating hits. Nothing else really matters. :) : SilverSnake
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  next time I find someone's apple device on the ground*, I'll be sure to throw it through the nearest appl... : proclone1
  • That's not even the point. I can't imagine ever picking up something and then trying to sell it if it was... : ateam311
• http://dilbert.com/blog/entry/thatlost4gphone : mo13
• I guess this means the site won't get a redesign soon? : WhatIsThisFor
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  So are the Police working for Apple? Hopefully a good South Park episode will come from this! : oldschoolbob-o
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    California law basically makes it a crime to sell something you found instead of returning it. : mancide
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      Therefore, Gizmodo was buying property they knew was stolen, since there is no way in hell the owner (App... : mancide
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        but what about the initial attempts made to return it, if they fake like they have no knowledge of the de... : oldschoolbob-o
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          If you can't return it to the proper owner then you give it to the police. Not that it really matters in ... : vigilante
          • sounds like you are about ready to take your justice to the street vigilante : oldschoolbob-o
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      I hope the future supreme court case is called Finders v. Keepers. : DarkWolf5
      • lol : DonkeyPopsicle
      • hahah : mrvandelay
      • haha this post needs more love : kevp
      • Hahah there we go : Rasnowl
      • lol : derelict515
      • or Keepers vs. Weepers ...since the Finders ARE the Keepers? : Vantage
  • No. Apple filed a complaint, and the police started an investigation. It's really sad how people thin... : ovrlrd
• nazi's : mindshot
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  so is apple now going to open up their ipod registry logs? i mean.. if my ipod gets stolen and someone re... : wimpy1
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    Why would apple give a shit if you lost your iPod? Even if they did make that information available, do y... : MagicWishMonkey
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      almost any device that ever gets registered to a person can be tracked down this way. whether or not poli... : wimpy1
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        It would be a waste of resources, and I doubt Apple wants to deal with thousands of whiny bitches callin... : MagicWishMonkey
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          And honestly, how often do you lose your iPod? : MagicWishMonkey
          • me? never.. i dont even own one anymore.. but are we really going to discuss how many ipods are lost/stol... : wimpy1
        • but the problem is apple does nothing. not even the lowest form of decent service in this regard. if i l... : wimpy1
        • You would be surprised at what the police would find if they turned up at the address of someone who has ... : Beady
        • Actually police have already tracked down and returned a lost iPhone before thanks to MobileMe's "Find my... : ovrlrd
  • Finally a rational response. : dmason
  • lol what? : two50six
  • they would do this, but no one seems to be willing to pay 1 court order per iPod retrieval.... : r_Ed
  • ipods aren't even covered by grand larceny in most cases. I think iphones and ipads in some cases might ... : mikecyb
  • The answer to this is no. If you want to protect your shit, buy MobileMe and turn on the "Find my" tra... : ovrlrd
• harsh : skelom
• holyshit wow! I was actually wondering htf they were reporting the specs/info on that barphone and App... : technotica
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  so wait, he knowingly bought stolen goods and now he's surprised the cops are raiding him? dumbass : filthysock
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    he had an email in his pocket sent to him by the attorney to show to the cops so I don't think he was sur... : baconisgod
    • An he stole that phone! derp de derp! : MagicWishMonkey
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    I guess the unit "BECAME" stolen? i don't see how anyone bought stolen goods here. you'd have to say the... : Downforce
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      you can't just take something you found in a bar and sell it. : dahanese
      • Yes you can I do it all the time : MagicWishMonkey
      • I am no lawyer but I believe there is a precedent set that due dillegence must be made before claiming so... : twifosp
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        who toggled it to become stolen, though? what of the finder that sold it to gizmodo? are his possessions ... : Downforce
        • Maybe they did raid that guy's house as well, bit he doesn't have a high profile website that reports it ... : SilverSnake
        • i'm sure the seller can get in trouble. and if you really can't see why taking the guy who wrote the arti... : dahanese
        • The guy not trying to return it to the person who lost it is what toggled it to being stolen. : Evil Benius
    • it's possible it could be stolen since the guy who found it did not return it to the place he found it or... : baconisgod
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  Told you guys it was a controlled leak by apple. Nice marketing blitz, apple. : haiku
  • They raided the guys house just to prove me the internet wrong. : twifosp
• That bar is going to be FAMOUS! : DooBall
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  i love apple for doing this. i'm all giddy about it. yes, i'm on the corporate side on this one. the f... : greydog
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    Wait until they start doing it for people who jailbreak their iphones. :) : silent prophet
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      Yea man, just wait until they start wire-tapping your iphone because you use windows, man! : twifosp
      • Steve knows you were trying to look at porn on your iPad. Steve doesn't like that. : silent prophet
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      That was pretty fucked up that one time an Apple employee called the cops on someone who jailbreaked thei... : ovrlrd
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        If you tried hard enough I bet you could make jailbreaking fall under DMCA or something. For reverse-engi... : SilverSnake
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          The DMCA also protects fair use, so no, they could bring it court if they wanted, all you would have to s... : ovrlrd
          • I believe there was an exemption in the DMCA allowing you to unlock your phone to use it on other carrier... : mtgDoofy
  • SAME! This is fucking awesome. Douchebags at Gawker. : the city
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    I'm loling at the thought that some people in this thread think this is covered under free speech. : twifosp
    • ya somehow feigned ignorance falls under free speech which allows you to get away with anything! : greydog
• Excuse my total lack of surprise. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• this is what happens when you do something shady and then boast about it on websites and one of the most ... : crypt420
• This is why you don't fuck with the Mentalist/CBI. : Thornfist
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  Fuck Gizmodo. : ateam311
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    I still don't understand why they posted the photo, name and other info about the Apple employee who lost... : Geoffrois
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      What did they have to gain? More traffic to their site of course. Welcome to the sad state of making m... : ovrlrd
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        Yep. It's going to be hilarious watching Apple take it all too. : ateam311
        • And even if Apple doesn't directly get the money, Gizmodo will be paying out the ass in lawyer fees. : ateam311
      • iPhone leak gets you traffic for sure, but posting all the details of the guy who lost it can't drive tha... : Geoffrois
• Here's my impression of engaget.com (ahem.... ): "PHEWWWW!" : mankeroo
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  So let me ask the Shack this. Was is indeed proven that Gizmodo BOUGHT the phone from a guy who found it,... : ateam311
  • I know there were bar pics and all kinds of shit, but.... well, I guess maybe that's why the police took ... : ateam311
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    It's been proven in the sense that the guy who found it was trying to bait other tech blogs including Eng... : ovrlrd
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      Damn. I wonder if the dude who sold it was also in California (I'm guessing he was). From wiki: For... : ateam311
      • well regardless of what apple would have valued the phone at, he himself put a value on it by accepting 5... : mankeroo
• It fell off the back of a truck, I swear officer They knew exactly what they were doing, it was not th... : shortbuscaptain
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  warrants like that really piss me off. did you see how invasive it was? : gyokuro
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    the company didn't write the warrant. : dahanese
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      true, they underwrote it. the DA actually wrote it, as per jurisdiction. but someone has to bring the ... : Downforce
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        no, the government itself can press charges : yakz
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          that is true of course, yet it seems fair to speculate apple is extremely pissed about R&D loss or someth... : Downforce
          • Are you sure he's not? : Conan
          • i don't know what they're doing, but it seems like that guy broke the law too. : yakz
          • Normally? Secret prototypes are found, sold, and published often enough to be a normal occurrence? Do yo... : vigilante
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            i think you are getting all your news from the website that is under fire. probably should go to less bia... : dahanese
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              some more sources would be good, but they are the "pulse" of the issue since it's happening to them. ... : Downforce
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                they are the pulse? are you fucking joking? they are getting sued and trying to get people like you to bu... : dahanese
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                  I must be missing a lot. I don't see where gizmodo is getting sued (yet). I just see a personal search wa... : Downforce
                  • no suit seems to be filed yet - just warrants. probably where it's headed, but i don't know why you'd bel... : dahanese
          • yeah stolen property felonies, especially those of secret prototypes never triggers a warrant : gmd
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        i think it's hilarious you think it's fine to just take something out of a bar, know whose property it is... : dahanese
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          how about those celeb pics from cell phones and this shit happens all the time? I don't hear of folks ge... : Downforce
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            firstly, not even remotely comparable. secondly, i'm pretty sure those people breaking into sidekick acco... : yakz
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              i dunno, crotch shots and nip slips of these hot celeb chicks are more important than 4g prototypes tbh w... : kainen1
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                that's where I was going with that blurt. we're talking value and web hits and traffic, seems comparable. : Downforce
                • i'm talking about a company protecting its property and products. : dahanese
                • Photographing celebs in public isn't illegal. : yakz
          • Cool, you can transmit people now? I need a new phone... : Conan
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            that's also illegal, but a company and a single person are different - i'm sure the single person would t... : dahanese
            • And public figures have less protection in that regard in any case. : Conan
          • Are you shitting me? : acheron
    • actually i was criticizing the Judicial system or whatnot for having it so broad. I dont think they have... : gyokuro
  • After reading the new yorker article about secret US torture camps in syria, etc... You don't know shit a... : Amnesty_intl2
• http://www.google.com/search?q=gizmodo+raided&hl=en&source=univ&tbs=nws:1&tbo=u&ei=ShPWS-HPHIP29QStlJCyDw... : ateam311
• Haha dun dun DUNNN : bolneze
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  interesting test regarding the degree to which bloggers are journalists : ]pm[chem
  • Not at all. There's no source protection here and there's little doubt there was a felony committed by Gi... : Conan
• They had it coming, and I'm sure they understood the ramifications for fucking with Apples bread & butter... : jingletard
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  Karmic revenge for the CES remote control stunt. : pigvomit
  • hahah, I was thinking this also. : DJ Clipdat
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    ? : kainen1
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      http://gizmodo.com/343348/confessions-the-meanest-thing-gizmodo-did-at-ces : baconisgod
      • wow, dick move : Turd Ferguson
      • funny but far exceeds the acceptable "dick quotient" : hussdelrio
  • I have been waiting for someone to fuck those guys up ever since that stunt and today is like Christmas : OverloadUT
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  Couldn't have happened to better folk. : multisync
  • Where did I just hear this phrase very recently used in the exact same way? It's going to kill me now. : spazzium
• They are so fucked and I hope Apple reams them, despite my dislike for the company. : Link.
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  Chen is a knob but this is seriously WTF. : abrasion
  • abrasion, if you sit there and try to argue that someone other than Chen did something wrong.... we're go... : ateam311
• LOL : fsck
• Do I smell a lawsuit? : cjcharv
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  http://i40.tinypic.com/29m55i9.png blatantly stolen from slashdot comments : gmd
  • lmao : nomaad
  • HAhahahahahahhahaha. :D : DOOManiac
  • lmfao : MercFox1
  • fucking lol : mrvandelay
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  http://gizmodo.com/5520479/a-letter-apple-wants-its-secret-iphone-back gizmodo gave apple jason chens add... : oldschoolbob-o
  • I'm sure they'd have struggled to find him... : derelict515
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  HAY GUYS an important note about shield law: it doesn't exempt you from searches from committing a crimin... : Postal
  • shit i've got a few phone calls to make :( : GloriousCow
  • But think of the slippery slope! : LilCrypto
  • yeah that section the Gawker lawyer pasted seems like it's more in reference to a subpoena issued after r... : mikecyb
• This has made my day. : Danny5225
• First IANAL but I am pretty sure that it is not just California but every state has laws that if you KNOW... : notext

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  talk to her. doesn't (didn't)? Go to HR. Don't lose sleep over that. : barichnikov
  • I'm really afraid of having any convo's with her 1 on 1 that aren't documented (such as via email). : ra1n
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    what the hell does that second sentence even mean? : riedlos
    • missed a word there, lol. doesnt (didn't) WORK ? : barichnikov
  • Dumb. Hit HR first to tell them what is going on, get it documented, ask them what you should do. : trove
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  HR is almost always a bad choice IMO. Read Corporate Confidential, HR is about one thing only: protectin... : piser
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    Seriously, buy this book. It's totally worth the $10 or whatever: http://www.amazon.com/Corporate-Con... : piser
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      And I'm a nice guy, so I'll quote from my copy: "Never go to HR to resolve a conflict. It can make you... : piser
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        This is actually solid advice, but it's totally dependent on how your HR shop is ran. We have a mediat... : goatjc
        • Most importantly, it's a 3rd party identity that's there for documentation if that's all you're wanting. : goatjc
      • So therefore, you should actually FRAME her to go to HR instead of you, thus making her look weak. : sreyes22
    • purchased. : biskits
    • Bought! : hussdelrio
• If you have proof that what she's saying about you is false, I would go to HR. Of course that would proba... : azshack
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  Have you been talking bad about her? I'm not asking because I'm saying she's justified, just a CYA type q... : ArcKnight
  • No, fortunately I've taken the high road the entire way. Amazingly enough. : ra1n
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  HR involvement depends on why you've had issues with her before and and what she's saying about you now. ... : pointyelbows
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    this was my thought as well. : cptstern
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      She is the first one into the office. There is absolutely no reason she should care. She just gossips a... : ra1n
      • I'm just pissed because she was also an asshole to my secretary today. Aw hell naw. Never let someone ... : ArcKnight
      • then everyone should know what to expect from her. look just confront her, spend a few hours in front of ... : cptstern
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    she would call people to let them know that he's in the office to make a point of showing that he's alway... : Xanthos
    • Yes, this is really it. Also, I've been doing fairly well at work, and she used to be the new hotshot. : ra1n
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  How big is your company? : at0micgarden
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    Very big. : ra1n
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      Don't talk to her. Go to HR, you're not a bitch. Fuck her. : at0micgarden
      • although nothing will probably come out of it (ie. they wont talk to her or anything, but still.... docum... : at0micgarden
      • Or I'm sorry, not necessarily HR, but definitely your manager or her manager and let THEM document it. : at0micgarden
• God you're like a yenta Mrs. Crabbitts : Phreakin
• You can always talk to her and mention Slander a few times. : Jinxplayer
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  Can you have your other co-workers document her comments? Or would they just stay out of it? If you c... : twifosp
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    I would do this, but keep it to yourself and build on it, then when it comes time for the promotion you b... : one random winner
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      The question is whether he's simply wanting a one-up on promotion later on, or whether he wants her to st : ArcKnight
      • I'm always about delayed gratification. I have a feeling ra1n may not share that though. : one random winner
    • That would be a sweet move. : SnakeIRye
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      You'd want to do it way before the promotion. If I were the hiring manager and someone pulled that, I'... : twifosp
      • Obviously timing is important, although stressing that in my original post may have been a good idea. Th... : one random winner
  • My little sister did this, kept a journal of everything her boss did wrong to his staff and after 2-3 mon... : breadsticks
• talk to HR so the company can have a record of your complaint against her, in case she keeps taking it fu... : jenisthebest
• Yes ra1n. We finish our work here. : semaphore
• immediately. in this environment, any reason to fire someone and hire someone else cheaper will be done. ... : Downforce
• Maybe she has a crush on you and is picking on you, heavy ra1n! : CrustaR
• if you don't talk to your direct manager first, your direct manager is likely to be pissed off if you go ... : but why
• If you go to HR with a complaint like this you better bring some solid proof (voice recordings/e-mails/pe... : fleshytarget
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  how's life in corporate hell? : crypt420
  • Other than this, it's peachy. : ra1n
• Set up a face-to face meeting between her and your fist. : TwiLyght
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  At my company it works like this. I know this because I've been on the receiving end of it: If you hav... : daVinci1980
  • BINGO : kramweil
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    Aka the chain of command. High five! : ArcKnight
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      Chain of Command is bullshit, and most managers too lazy to do it, what then? : graceofdragons
      • I can't parse your question. : ArcKnight
  • TO THE BOSS. I agree, no need for HR here. It has the side effect of telling your boss you know what's up... : pyros
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    The minute he confronts her she's gonna beeline to hr. That shit only works in all male environments. : trove
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      My engineering heavy company is 48% female. : daVinci1980
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        And they all work in HR and Finance? : trove
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          Most are engineers, some are HR, some are finance. : daVinci1980
          • Break it out for us, percentage wise and with actual numbers. Or let's make it easier and say that fe... : trove
    • I also agree with this. Don't confront her, just go to your boss. : pyros
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  I had a similar problem (some guy was going around telling my boss and everyone we had sex) and I went to... : Koral06
  • But we did have sex! : Thornfist
• Two Words for you to tell HR: Hostile Environment. These are probably the worst words (other than sex... : Thresher
• I'm a Trade Union rep in the UK, so I don't know how my advice would translate, but over here that's cons... : Wikidd
• I think it was said already but you take this sort of shit up with the lady first. If she denies it, tell... : eonix
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  Think of it this way: do you really believe that they will want to promote a worrisome gossiper over a so... : anhero
  • I have a feeling you would fail miserably on the "just world" test. This is not an insult, just an observ... : jipey
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  I'm going to go talk to her - I just don't want her to come out of the meeting screaming sexual harassmen... : ra1n
  • Think twice about this... : Amnesty_intl2
  • If it comes to that, you can always use this thread as evidence! : ArcKnight
  • you might want to have a witness : busdriver3030
  • Did you ever read Stranger in a Strange Land? It's situations like this that make me wish we had the conc... : Cheeziologist
  • IMO, incorrect. you'd think an attorney would go straight to mediation/arbitration, documented and viewed... : Downforce
  • I highly recommend having a witness of some sort. : tedv
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    Talk to your boss and let them know you are going to have a 1 on 1 with your co-worker to resolve some di... : mo13
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      This is going to end with him snorting lines of coke off her bare ass and then they'll fuck like bunnies ... : ArcKnight
      • so, it's a win win situation is what you're saying? : mo13
  • Yeah, don't do this, without someone you trust as a witness. : Thornfist
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    Why even bother? She's clearly established herself as an adversary. You should be seeking her immediate t... : itsjames
    • haha. Excellent invocation of highlander rules in daily life : Cheeziologist
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    if only there were some way of capturing sound waves in the air and transcribing them in such a way that ... : steelsamurai
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      Massachusetts General Law Chapter 272 Section 99 makes it illegal to record an in-person or telephone con... : Cheeziologist
      • http://www.mass.gov/legis/laws/mgl/272-99.htm : Cheeziologist
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        so ask permission and tell her it's on the record for both of their protections. This is far better than ... : steelsamurai
        • im sure once she sees the red recording light she will agree to stop doing whatever it is she shouldn't b... : eggnoodles
      • He doesn't need to do it secretly. : OverloadUT
    • Another brilliant idea from yourself. If only you'd bother to check if it was allowable. Shucks. : ra1n
  • start the conversation by taking off your shoe and banging on the table with it : spiderfill
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    um, record it? what kind of a lawyer are you?! : the_doctor
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      Bird law. : MagicWishMonkey
      • bird law? : the_doctor
    • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=22789080#itemanchor_22789080 : Cheeziologist
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    Update ra1n is in jail. : abrasion
    • Ra1n's co-worker likes this! : Amnesty_intl2
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    Do you own an iphone? if you do, record the conversation from the phone in your pocket just in case? : eonix
    • That's illegal. : ra1n

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  View -> Small Mode : Bean
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    oh fuck, this new Steam is awesome : roushimsx
    • HAHAHAHAHA : Phreakin
    • HAHA nice! I agree. : .frame
    • LOL noob! : YerMothah
    • lol : Godhatesfatpeople
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      MAYBE YOU SHOULD BE READING SHACKNEWS THREADS MOAR : MercFox1
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        MAYBE IF I DIDN'T SPEND SO MUCH TIME PLAYING FAGGOT ANIME GAYMES THEN I WOULD LOLZ : roushimsx
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          why aren't you playing Dudebro — My Shit Is Fucked Up So I Got to Shoot/Slice You II: It's Straigh... : burning eye
          • $60/new on consoles and my PC can't run the Steam version that's on sale :( : roushimsx
        • lol : MercFox1
    • lols : jonin
    • lolol : rmjackson
    • awesome. : spazzium
    • thread of the day here folks :D : halophoenix
    • lol : Maddog_Delphi97
  • wow holy shit thanks! : kainen1
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    I also recommend clicking the "+" icon in the top right of the list and turning on icons. : OverloadUT
    • oh wow, fucking +inf : kill9
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      isn't that default? : peat
      • It definitely wasn't for me, but I've been using the beta since it was first available. I bet they change... : OverloadUT
    • That was on as default for me :3 : Godhatesfatpeople
    • HOLY FUCKING OPTIONS, BATMAN! rabble rabble rabble : askedrelic
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  oh god, and disabling all of the columns in list mode to get it looking like that is useless because you ... : roushimsx
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    read what bean posted before you have a stroke : ArcKnight
    • too late : roushimsx
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    It's missing all the details I like in the old view :/ : abrasion
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      What do you mean? http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=abrasionwtf_ea3reaxzmkgq655ucw91.jpg : ArcKnight
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        ALT-PrintScreen captures only the active window : OverloadUT
        • Thanks, I'm not up on my windows shortcuts. : ArcKnight
    • What details? : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Just turn off the icons in list view, same thing as before except much more customizable with categories ... : Serpico74
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    turning off the icons and all of the other columns still leaves you with a huge ass window that you can't... : roushimsx
    • I never used small mode. If I'm playing a game its going to be full screen. If I'm browsing for games its... : Serpico74
• Whoa I just did a force restart of steam and the new UI is up, this is pretty nifty. : shortbuscaptain
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  I like the huge ass icons!!! It's like I have game boxes again. : midgetherder
  • I agree! Grid mode with lots of catagories is nice : Serpico74
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  Agreed! : duncan432
  • Though I will have to just get used to it : duncan432
• I actually kind of like it. :D : halophoenix

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  It uses Ubisofts DRM. Won't be buying it for that reason alone :( : pancake humper
  • Same here; I was really looking forward to it too. But the only way I can protest their insane DRM is by... : Modulus
• It does have that asstastic DRM. Someone got me a copy of ass creed 2 and I have yet to run into problem... : sheepraper
• I've seen a bunch of scathing opinions here, but I think it's done really well. I've gotten a little more... : hoov1185
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  http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=22784145#itemanchor_22784145 : at0micgarden
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    Ug, Unreal 2, really? PASS : LoioshDwaggie
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      Congrats! You just won the "stupidest reason not to play Conviction I ever heard" award. Your prize i... : MrLobo
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        Just another reason not to get it. I'm one of the guys who doesn't like R6: Vegas because I prefer the ol : LoioshDwaggie
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          Plus, nightvision and headvision :( Why would you remove all the sim element from a great stealth sim gam... : LoioshDwaggie
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            Play on realistic and its as slow and plodding as any of its predecessors. : dewdman
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              Gonna have to disagree on that - especially on the last level, which is chock full of complete bullshit. : ArcKnight
              • yup last level sucks, but my point still stands. All the splinter cells had a bullshit level or two. I've : dewdman
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        How about your awful DRM scam? Is that a good enough reason for you and your co-workers? : pancake humper
        • Yes I am fine with that. Just don't pirate it and I'll be happy. : MrLobo
        • OH SNAP, PANCAKE! OH FUCKING SNAP! : Korban
      • I want to tell you it was one of the best games I've played recently. It was a blast the whole way throug... : Rauol Duke
    • lol really? : dewdman
    • Jesus christ. Just play it, it's awesome! : -sk-
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      They must have modded the engine quite a bit to make Sam's neck and feet look so normal. : dumb.
      • You're thinking Unreal Engine 3. : ArcKnight
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      I'm fairly sure Chaos Theory used Unreal 2 and this is very obviously heavily improved. : marmite
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        I'd totally buy a Chaos Theory 2. : LoioshDwaggie
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          mother fucking signed. I wonder if conviction is moddable, to get thermal/night/stealthy stuff back : Downforce
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            You guys are aware the new sonar goggles do what both the thermal and night vision goggles did, at the sa... : dewdman
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              Not exactly. You can't move while using the sonar goggles, at least not if you want to see where you're g... : ArcKnight
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                Which is a nice design choice, imo : dewdman
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                  I have to disagree. completely removing the "shoot the lights out and toggle on nightvision" aspect does ... : Downforce
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                    I did that 75% of the time. Just because they changed the formula with a new feature/mechanic doesn't ... : dewdman
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                      There are no achievements for killing 500 dudes. You mean besides the entire Mark and Execute challeng... : ArcKnight
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                        Mark and execute requires a stealth takedown to even activate in the first place. Also, why wouldn't a pr... : dewdman
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                          There's not a stealth achievement either, if we're going to be pedantic. They're all in game challenges. ... : ArcKnight
                          • Perfect Hunter 20G Complete any map in Hunter without ever having been detected on realistic difficulty : dewdman
        • Me too. This game doesn't sound like it's for me either, I'd rather have hardcore stealth and tension tha... : pyros
    • All that really means is that they stopped taking merges from Epic, and continued modifying the engine th... : dopefish
    • New engine built off the Unreal Engine 2. It looks good, but far from great. : at0micgarden
• In regards to the visuals I thought it looked pretty good. For me the real stand out were the outdoor env... : warcrow
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  Penny Arcade summed up the game pretty well the other week or so. : Wombat Woo
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    http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/4/19/ Hahhaa, I totally missed this one. : ArcKnight
    • "inside the Presidents Internet!" Haha, oh my god that's hilarious! : warcrow
    • hahaha : stgdz
    • haha : atom519
    • Penny arcade needs to hurry up and update today, it looks like they're going to be doing the Lookouts aga... : ArcKnight
    • hahahahahahaha omfg : Downforce
    • one of the best ones in a while : JINKY
    • It really is "24 - The Game". I liked it, but it was a lot more popcorn than previous SCs. : jake
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      the previous one is pretty great too: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/4/16/ : mikecyb
      • haha, i like this one better. : at0micgarden
      • haha these are great : MrBig0
      • haha, these make me want to play the game now. : atom519
      • this one is awesome : AlexXdude
    • That final panel is priceless lol : silent prophet
    • T O M C L A N C Y ' D : waxthirteen
    • hahahah, spot on : Bamtan
    • Their faces are pretty much amazing. : Dschinghis Khan
    • Yeah, when I read that I couldn't stop laughing at their expressions. Fucking PERFECT. : thetangent
• the guards are worse than the guards in Far Cry. would it really have been that difficult to hire like t... : mikecyb
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  For anyone that missed it, the content from the defective USB flash drives (that came with the Collector' : MatthewPhillips
  • FYI click the link in my old post, and it will likely ask you to confirm your Region, and then it should ... : MatthewPhillips
• Dunno, But I really like the Johnny Cash song in the commercial. : r4wk

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  I would totally be down, but for credibility and having to play in ascii would be a deal breaker for me. : Jinxplayer
  • just play tiles then it's not for money! : azenmaster
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  I'm interested, but I would need tiles to play =( If anyone cheats then that is just retarded. : JohnnyRey
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    yes I dont mind if people have to use tiles, I don't expect any cheating anyways there's no prize or anyt... : azenmaster
    • Ok sounds good = : JohnnyRey
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  my mummy summoner started off good but ran into multiple orc wizards that were killing my summons faster ... : azenmaster
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    201 for my kenku :( fucking sigmund : azenmaster
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      228 for my mummy, I'll try again tonight but should be easy to beat :( : azenmaster
      • Yeah, sure, easy to beat. I do it with my eyes closed! : Nixx2004
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        260 for my Mummy. Crazy Yiuf rolled through my summons but was pretty weak so I thought I could take him.... : Haxim
        • that guy can be really tough. i've fought him several times where i had him nearly dead, and got cocky. h... : mindmann
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  Sounds like fun. Both those classes suck for me, I don't do well with most casters, but I'll try it! ... : Nixx2004
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    I used the first random classes I got :( maybe next time I'll get some melee. : azenmaster
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      Taking the first you get is probably best, but hope we get ones that are slightly easier next time heh. : Nixx2004
      • Hmm, this summoner is interesting. : Nixx2004
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        Yeah the first two random classes seems like a very Crawl-y way to set this up. I like the way you did it... : Psigun
        • Errr the way zen did it that is : Psigun
• i'll join in. suck at spellcasters but good practice anyway. : stgulik
• That might be fun, sure : geedeck
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  That sonofabitch Centaur. He outgeared me! And one-shot me. http://i42.tinypic.com/2a6a8lt.jpg : AxeMan808
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    What do you use all those clubs for? : Nixx2004
    • useful for throwing early on. i end up tossing mine pretty quickly most of the time (also can be used for... : stgulik
    • I just found out the other day that if you don't have like stones or darts quivered, after each throw it'... : AxeMan808
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  This is a great idea. I would participate on Akrasiac but I'm 100% behind tiles. I'll just use the honor ... : Psigun
  • it's for fun, just post your scores : azenmaster
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  Oh man, doing good with my Mummoner, but not sure if I should join Sif Muna (found an altar on level 2!).... : Nixx2004
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    Nevermind, invis Sigmund hit me with some fire. :( Heh. : Nixx2004
    • that fucker : azenmaster
  • Sif Muna is great for any caster. especially a summoner you cast so often, sif muna would love you. : azenmaster
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  Scores go here: : Nixx2004
  • 157 with Mummoner. Fucking Terence. : Nixx2004
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    Here Ye Hear Ye! Let it be known that the noble Mummy Summoner, Wrappz the Caller, was slain on D:6,... : Jinxplayer
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      I found a ring of wizardy and prot. from fire early on, along with a few diff spell books. I was going r... : Jinxplayer
      • I went down some stairs right into Edmund and 3 orcs, ran around a corner into 4 more orcs (including a w... : azenmaster
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    5521 Gwalchgwyn MuSu-10 slain by a killer bee (D:12) I couldn't get away from the little bee bastards ... : Psigun
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      very nice! : azenmaster
      • thanks, i've played a LOT of summoners over the various versions so it's one of my best combos. all about... : Psigun
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      Nice, gonna be hard for me to beat that. I'll get you some other day (week?). : Nixx2004
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        I didn't get all that far- summoners are very strong. I might have made it out of my jam with some better... : Psigun
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          you play around with skills too don't you? any tips for newbs ? : azenmaster
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            yeah i tweak my skills for summoners as follows: - turn everything but spellcasting off until it's at ... : Psigun
            • oh, and some useful shortcuts: - o for auto-explore - t for ally targeting commands : Psigun
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    Taking my second run at Mummy Summoner... : Jinxplayer
    • I guess taking a few swings at a giant gecko is a bad idea, went out at 127 pts that time in D:2 : Jinxplayer
• goddamn it I had some a ton of arrows (Some +1) for sticks to snakes and some kobold with darts of explod... : azenmaster
• Guess its time to try this out. : stonedonkey
• yeah. i'll do that. that sounds fun. i'll be doing it locally (and won't cheat), because i travel without... : mindmann
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  I just started this, are there any beginner tips as to the configuration of the game? Like are there bett... : kabex
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    also how can I run it windowed? : kabex
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      also how do I get sound-fx in this shit? music would be good. : kabex
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        u guys suck : kabex
        • You got ER'D! I didn't see your posts until MD was over, but 1> No Sound. 2> No Window Control (it's in a... : AxeMan808

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  just don't cook them too long you don't need bullshit like a raw egg, bell peppers, onions, garlic, an... : EvilDolemite
  • to each his own. I like onion and garlic in my ground meat. : Cheeziologist
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    The right meat is so often overlooked when making burgers. Ground sirloin is amazing for this. : ArcKnight
    • i like quality fresh ground sirlion with a bit of either ground chuck or ground beef to provide some addi... : EvilDolemite
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      leaner meat will dry out and turn to briquettes faster. i always do the fattiest meat for my burgers. : cpt_gloval
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        seasoning-wise, i've been using a thing of Rudy's BBQ seasoning we got in San Antonio to spice it up beyo... : cpt_gloval
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          they have sauce, too! rudy's rub is the shit. good and simple, but tasty on basically any grilled meat : EvilDolemite
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            went through the sauce so damn fast. : cpt_gloval
            • the sauce pump in southwest austin rudy's is like, 50 gallons : EvilDolemite
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              http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/13367377.jpg : EvilDolemite
              • i love it, that's way more than 50 gallons though! : cpt_gloval
      • pan fry your burger so it cooks in it's own juices for more flavor as well. : mo13
      • sirloin is my goto hamburger meat, lean sucks and chuck has too much fat. : peat
    • more often than not, sirloin doesn't have enough fat on it's own. : action roommate
  • But then it's just cooked ground beef and that doesn't sound very exciting. : Vincent Grayson
  • Haha you basically described the exact ingredients each of my patties contains. : givemesnacks
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  http://www.flickr.com/photos/ephemeron/2508400423/ : ant_hillbilly
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    Add some spicy horseradish sauce to the bun and you are set. : ant_hillbilly
    • wasabi mayo : Haku-Jin
  • MMMM! This looks so good. : razlebol
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  A little (very little) Worcestershire sauce can replace salt. Try it and see, I do it every so often. : drhazard
  • Cheese and bacon in the MIDDLE of two patties sealed together. Saw some chef on the Food Network do that.... : Attica Blue
• Tabasco sauce : MagicWishMonkey
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  I grind shiitake with my beef burgers. It's awesome. : ThrillKill
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    ^ I want someone else to try this, it's my own invention and I think it works great - I just need the aff... : ThrillKill
    • oh and 28-day matured sirloin, plus pancetta for fat. : ThrillKill
• Make mini burgers , then google for special sauce style recipes from various restaurants.. : kaddar0
• how about a nice big heaping spoonful of dave's insanity sauce on each burger! : wendigo
• Monosodium glutamate : Modulus
• add montreal steak seasoning and Tabasco into the meat to make your patties. Then when the patties are co... : kevp
• toss some jalapenos on the grill and let them blacken on the outside until they're good and black, then t... : MisterPhoton
• I think you need to talk to mace. : notdeadyeti
• Also if you have a meat grinder. http://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/2009/10/the-blue-label-burger-blen... : ant_hillbilly
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  It's "Je ne sais quoi" noob. : razlebol
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    this was a trick to find the french shackers. : xxiv
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      razlebol is worse, he's french canadian. : ArcKnight
      • :( : razlebol
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    cool thanks I take spelling seriously : boomstickah
    • But fuck punctuation. : ecclesio
• it lacks some I don't know? : mikecyb
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  My nutty burgers are always great. Just add a little soy, ground pepper, and fine pieces of chopped walnu... : ateam311
  • That's a stupid idea. You're stupid. : ecclesio
• Costco has these yummy sauces, I added it to lots of things, like hamburgers, meatloaf, fish, chicken, et... : Nixx2004
• onions, pickles, put it in some chili. : Amnesty_intl2
• meat : ninjase
• gruyere swiss cheese, sauteed onions, sauteed mushrooms, and bacon that you rub with brown sugar and pepp... : ninjase
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  Ok. You have to trust me on this. Get some blackberry jam, get some creamy peanut butter. Apply to b... : Thornfist
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    Peanut butterand jelly burgers? That's so insane it might just work! : ninjase
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      It does. Blackwell's Pub in birmingham sells them...they are SO GOOD. I spoke to the owner/chef for a... : Thornfist
      • A link to their menu to prove I'm not a troll/liar. http://www.birminghammenus.com/2009/06/blackwells... : Thornfist
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    Worcestershire. More than you think yoiu need. : c0bra
    • Whoops meant for root. : c0bra

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  When I fought him the first time, I was convinced he split in two because I had cut his tail off and the : Omaha
  • oh yea I tried the dodging method a ton of times. Lightened up my armour took off my sheild and fell to m... : RogerDandy
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    thats usually how I die if he kills me, i get knocked off the stage. : technotica
    • Yea I died about 6 times or so getting knocked off lol. : RogerDandy
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  How would someone classify demon's souls? After seeing months of posts on this, I'm only recently beco... : dedgecko
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    It is a dungeon crawling RPG. : Omaha
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      Yeah, if you're looking for a short description this is pretty spot on. The best part of the game - to m... : Begawkiness
      • I agree, the combat is amazing. Not always, but when you have a good fight, its a really good fight. : technotica
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    super challenging, Un-forgiving, slightly Japanese action rpg. : RogerDandy
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      slightly Japanese? haha, it is Japanese through and through. : bakanoodle
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        is there a demo for it? After playing 10 seconds of the Bayonetta demo - I further cemented the idea t... : dedgecko
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          No demo, but it's nothing like Bayonetta. It's more comparable to an old school dungeon crawler, like a m... : Modica Sol Solis
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            haha this game would have done so badly if there was a demo. You almost need to have committed to the 60... : grandmasterlee
            • Ive honestly never been frustrated with this game, well maybe alil.... maybe... DAMN YOU DEMONS SOULS!!! : technotica
      • well it's not in an annoying way which is in the forefront of games like Bayonetta. : RogerDandy
  • A dungeon crawler with timing-heavy combat and unforgiving death penalty. : byorn
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    Rape simulator. : DM7
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      But with Stockholm syndrome, because you will always come back for more and defend its honor to the death... : Omaha
      • Haha agreed. But if you go slow, it's enjoyable. like rape : DM7
  • imagine Phil's mace comics only that's you. : grendel
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  Did anyone ever use the rune items? Are they any good? : RogerDandy
  • I never found them to be worthwhile. : omnova
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    If I'm a faith based character that carries a sheild is the meat cleaver worth one handing? I think bless... : RogerDandy
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      Just played through it again over the last couple of weeks, and after getting the meat cleaver early on I... : -JLN-
      • thanks for the thoughts. I'm really torn what to use but I like the speed of the mace. I could always jus... : RogerDandy
      • Yea I'm going pretty str/dex heavy as well. Hmmmm. : RogerDandy
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    If you're heavy melee they're okay for the magic defense. Otherwise there are better items out there, bu... : Rotten Deadite
    • Yea I'm getting 18 magic anyways so I'm gonna use them for a while even if it's just to see what they're ... : RogerDandy
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    they suck, just get the Dark Silver Shield its far superior to the Rune Shield. : grandmasterlee
    • Yea I see the stats. : RogerDandy
• I need to reroll and start this mofo over. : Downforce
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  I'll post in your threads if you'll start using the proper Demon's Souls tag and not that gay pink : grandmasterlee
  • dude look it up the pink was along well before the "flaming" red. : RogerDandy
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  If I'm a faith based character that carries a sheild is the meat cleaver worth one handing? I think bless... : RogerDandy
  • For faith build I went from Mydran Hammer (default) to Blessed mace +1 (in 5-1.. upgraded it until +... : Shai-Tan
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  If you are not "specced in bow" you should get the Lava Bow from beating the boss in 2-1 and upgrade any ... : Shai-Tan
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    also don't be cheap beating bosses :) It's more fun to beat them properly. if you can't beat move on to a... : Shai-Tan
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      haha fuck that maneater is a fucker. : RogerDandy
      • He was one of the last bosses I beat. Much easier when my soul levels were higher. Only issues is not sta... : Shai-Tan
    • I've beat them all properly once, since then I just cheese the fuck out of them. : Rehevkor
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  My Blueblood Sword spec'd character could kill Maneaters in about 10 hits a piece. That sword is insane.... : omnova
  • yea that one looks crazy. : RogerDandy
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    I just got that sword and I finally feel like I am no longer supremely gimped compared to a caster. Unfor... : aggressor
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      Yeah, I rushed to it (no easy task during that PBWT weekend) and it still took a long time to get. It's ... : omnova
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        I have too much into strength (30), but everything else is just about right. I started out as a Knight an... : aggressor
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          Oh and your original post is good news, I have to beat 3-2 and 3-3 before unlocking the ending. : aggressor
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            theres 2 endings btw = at least 2 playthroughs and each one gives you something different to carry over t : technotica
            • wtf different endings :( : aggressor
• How many hours did it take you guys to beat it? It looks like I'll be at 45 hours or so when I finally co... : aggressor
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  I should really give this game another shot. I got too stressed out last time and ended up quitting. I ... : granpachook
  • you learn to shrug off dieing I kill myself on purpose all the time in that game hehe. : RogerDandy
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  I'm at those fuckers now, with a knight, and i'm getting raped, maybe i should take the bow route as well... : Waxfinger
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    Yea I dunno man it felt so good to kill that stupid fucker. Cause one at a time it's not really that bad.... : RogerDandy
    • This comforts me. : Waxfinger
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  going to play some Demon's Souls seems theres not many blue stains around anymore so if anyone wants t... : technotica
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    ARRRGGG!!!!! Ive seen 3 THREE blue soul signs the entire time ive been pklaying and every single one give... : technotica
    • left my silver stick in the bank... so erm... ya no magic for me. : technotica

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  >This product is only available for purchase in France, Spain, Germany, Denmark, Faroe Islands, >Finland,... : cdrd
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    USrApe : ateam311
    • 4,95€, I really need to get this! How can they sell this in some but not all EU countries, that'... : cdrd
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    Weird. I see: This product is only available for purchase in the United States, Canada, and Mexico. : ctlaltl33t
    • Yeah, I just bought it with no problems in Canada. : Haxim
    • Me too. : Marrbe
    • You get that message when you put currency to euro. Ah well, hope there is a Steam deal soon. : cdrd
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  ah, crap. If that was for Steam I'd do it. : mrwolf710
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    They had this during the holiday sale. : ajvitaly
    • Well... for $13.60 : ajvitaly
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    Can someone explain this mentality to me? I haven't bought a whole lot from Steam but why would you not b... : Haxim
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      I've got tons of games on Steam but have never bought anything from D2D, how does the DRM work? : at0micgarden
      • There isn't any. You download an installer, install the game, and if the game has DRM, it has DRM. D2D do... : Vincent Grayson
      • There's an activation code you have to enter the first time you launch the game. After that, you're good.... : ctlaltl33t
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      because steam is where most of us have our games, its a matter of convenience : vitek r
      • ^Steam is awesome and I like keeping all my games on Steam. Being able to keep my games in the cloud and ... : askedrelic
    • For me it's ease of use and having most of my digital games in one place, where I can always download the... : pyide
    • Because I like all of my shit to be in the same place. : OverloadUT
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      Similar to why I don't go to Wal-Mart to buy cereal (~$1 cheaper there than my usual spot) : givemesnacks
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        Right, and if we were talking about saving $1 I'd agree with you. But if BestBuy was selling something at... : Haxim
        • Most definitely. I made sure to use the word "similar" as opposed to something like "same reason". : givemesnacks
        • Not with PC games. Steam's main benefit is its ubiquitousness and the fact that you can easily re-install... : Xevo
    • conveniance and standardization. Knowing that no matter where I go or what PC I'm on I have it waiting t... : kainen1
    • Convenience. I don't like dumping my CC info all over the place... if there's a single vendor with a goo... : Ride-My-Rocket
    • That way you can bitch when steam isn't working and you can't play your DRM free game because of steam. : retardhumper
    • In addition to the reasons given above by others, the fact that pretty much all of us have and use Steam ... : famine101
    • if its not on steam i usually dont buy it. i dont want to have different services for different games. : onji
    • No, It's because they'd rather have it for steam. : jonin
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      Consolidation, convenience, familiarity. I've bought off of GoG but it doesn't feel as clean and streamli... : ieGod
      • I also don't want a lot of software floating around on my system, and if a game uses Steamworks its even ... : ieGod
      • What? GoG is as good as it gets. : Marrbe
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        GoG is like the best parts of Steam without using Steam. Impulse is a close second. Offline play in the m... : Sailor of Fortune
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          I don't like Impulse because it's just another Steam-like system. I mean, I have it, and I've bought a fe... : Vincent Grayson
          • Thing is I don't want to have to use a client to play the games or be online. I had Steam in Iraq and it ... : Sailor of Fortune
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      I don't get why it's so hard for all the people in this sub thread to have to remember one or two extra l... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
      • Yeah, me neither. It also tells me that Valve needs some serious competition (and I am a Valve fanboy). : The Grolar Bear
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      I just want to clarify, because I think some people are getting the wrong idea. I'm not asking why you us : Haxim
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        Probably the same reasons (consolidation, standardization, etc). I agree with you though, it doesn't make... : The Grolar Bear
        • Shit I buy games not on Steam so it doesn't have to install to my already small C Drive. : Sailor of Fortune
    • Yeah, it's just a "all my games in one place, installable on any computer I own that has a Internet conne... : mrwolf710
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  Anyone play Saboteur on PC? Been looking for it cheap.... : at0micgarden
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    yeah, it was a lot of fun : MisterPhoton
    • Nice, at this price I might as well give it a shot. : at0micgarden
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    i'm waiting for CrustaR to let me know if this is a good deal : devpaul
    • devpaul, I've never played it, so I can't tell you. :| : CrustaR
    • I should do the same from now on. : The Grolar Bear
  • It's definitely an inferior game to play right after Assassin's Creed 2 or even Red Faction Guerilla. If ... : Sailor of Fortune
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  I have never played a Civilization game... : breadsticks
  • Now's your chance to enjoy it : ctlaltl33t
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    This and Civ 2 are probably the best in series so far. : one random winner
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      Civ 2 needs to hit digital distribution (maybe GoG or something) for sure. : The Grolar Bear
      • Agreed, it'd be a cool little promotion if it showed up right around the time Civ 5 came out (albeit, I'd... : one random winner
      • Oh man Civ2 was fucking awesome. I played the fuck out of it. : deject
  • Protip: Use the alarm feature. You can easily breeze through 5 hours and not realize it. : Wolfanoz
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  I just bought the complete pack for $39.99 last week :) No wait! :( : Milleh
  • throw that one away! then buy it again for $10 and tell yourself you saved $30. : StolenNosferatu
• well, I'm glad I paid $39.99 for this about a month ago... : zerog83
• I just bought it. Never played a Civ game before (my PC gaming roots are all FPS). I remember seeing so... : Empyric
• Civ 4 Tutorial http://www.garath.net/Sullla/civ4intro.html Worth a read if you're feeling lost : ctlaltl33t
• No OS X version? Sweet, I just saved ten bucks and 300 hours! : Caboose
• holy shit i woke up today with a desire to play a CIV like game but didn't own any. :D wasn't there... : mwasher
• Are we going to have to get another pitboss game going after this sale? : Haxim
• Bought! : Blackdawgg
• The last Civ game I played was the original in ye olde 1990's. I was pretty hooked, but never picked up ... : noknyc