Evening Reading: FPS Fever!

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  Check out my X-Com post plz. http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=22691648#itemanchor_22691648 : Liquid
  • More like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokemon_Snap : capt tripps
  • Yeah the likeliest is that it's going to be like Mass Effect 2. : SpaecKow
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  curmudgeon post - "Hocks a giant loogey and spits* That is all folks. : RikiTiki2
  • Yes but console games are worth curmudgeoning. : SpaecKow
• I had it whipped out and ready to go but it just turned into a limp noodle instead :( : pyros
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  Ok, enough bullshit. If the whiners insist they are such a large contingent and want an updated X-Com rem... : Poor Yurik
  • guess my main point is, past the knee jerk reaction, search your heart and you know a turn-based X-Com ga... : Poor Yurik
  • I enjoy your post. : jingletard
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    Just because it's a niche market doesn't mean that the title deserves to be shit all over. : capt tripps
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      This is true, and having a AAA studio sink a AAA budget into it isn't "shitting all over it." : Poor Yurik
      • In this instance, I would say it does. : capt tripps
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        They don't have to sink a AAA budget into it, but it would be nice to see some of the other game genres c... : Modulus
        • Didn't the last great space sim nearer the PC's golden age (Freelancer 2) sell like 26k copies total? Tha... : derelict515
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      what makes you think it'll be shit on..just because it's being turned into an fps? Is that your only rea... : deathofrats
      • Yes. Saying it's nobody cares because TBS titles don't sell and it's better off as an FPS is shitting on... : capt tripps
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    Yes! I wanted to post something like this..all of you who are moaning about this remake, did you buy the... : deathofrats
    • I bought one or two, and they were pretty bad, and horrible buggy if I recall correctly. : Modulus
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      Well someone bought the UFO games because there are like five of them. : SpaecKow
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        Eastern European dev, ridiculously low overhead. : Poor Yurik
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          That aint a fuckin point, no one demands that there be a AAA 50 million dollar remake of X-Com. : SpaecKow
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            In fact I would love for a sector of the industry to develop that worked on a small scale with low budget... : SpaecKow
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              http://www.matrixgames.com/ Hard core (not for pussies). : capt tripps
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                Paradox does this as well and have for ages. I think Strategy First also has a stable of these kinds of g... : SpaecKow
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                  Strategy First has kinda fallen. They even sold Disciples to the russians (I'm hoping for a May US relea... : capt tripps
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                    That game has been indevelopment for fucking forever, but it sure does look nice to me. : SpaecKow
                    • There's a russian demo. : capt tripps
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              lol, you just described Matrix Games, as capt tripps linked to. : Poor Yurik
              • Last game I bought from matrix had a custom printed cd with the serial number printed on it. The develop... : capt tripps
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                Well that was more of a tangent in regard to certain other genres, like my beloved first person rpgs :( : SpaecKow
                • And I don't get what your point is anymore. Weren't you just saying how TBS games are hopeless and dead? : SpaecKow
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      I bought X-COM at least 3 times, Terror from the Deep twice, the others at least once each. It didnt see... : elathan
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        what about the UFO series (not X-COM) : RikiTiki2
        • yeah, i got those (or most of them). I didn't like them as much as I did x-com. : elathan
    • The UFO games were really bad and missed the point of Xcom as well. : baron calamity
  • It would all be okay if the big end of developer town simply didn't make turn based games anymore, but th... : SpaecKow
  • This man speaks the truth : Drewus
  • I don't think I've ever suggested that there's a large audience for them, but presenting some Russian or ... : jet-poop
  • I did. I played all those except Jagged Alliance 2. Havent gotten around to that one yet. : elathan
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    I played those games, its not the same at all. What was great about the X-COM series is that it played o... : mastermike569
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      Anyone agree with this? I mean, I think I state a valid point for not only X-COM but UFO as well. : mastermike569
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        You seem more in love with X-Com's setting and mythos than just the gameplay. If the FPS absolutely nail : Poor Yurik
        • btw the new XCOM game is set in like the 1950's and you play an FBI agent. It's actually confusing for me... : SpaecKow
        • I'm hoping for the same, I honestly really liked the game play of the original X-COM series. Everything ... : mastermike569
      • yeah I agree with you man. Except that I think there was one of those UFO games that was good but no one... : alexthegreat2
    • You know those old Xcom games still exist right? Like, you can download them off of Steam. : Drewus
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    You're overlooking the fact that the UFO games absolutely *suck*. The fact is that there hasn't been a g... : jason bergman
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      Hell, I didn't buy them. I just used them as an example that there have been many TBS games made in the ... : Poor Yurik
      • SS was awesome. It was perfect. Except for the mechs. That aside, loved loved loved it. : Ebu
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      Apocalypse wasn't that bad. It was actually quite fun when you got use to. It was radically different fro... : Modulus
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        Apocalypse was great. i have a co worker who is still playing that game. : baron calamity
        • It is, and it's a good example of how to retain the feel of the first game while changing things around. : Marrbe
    • I like X-COM because it's a tactical turn-based game. Most of the other games being discussed here are re... : Goncyn
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    I bought Jagged Alliance 2 three times : kill9
    • 4 JA purchases here :( JA2 twice, the expansion, then JA Gold. : Poor Yurik
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      Hell I'd buy it again now if I knew where : dafugg
      • http://www.gog.com/en/search/sort/search/jagged : Poor Yurik
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      Maybe there's still time for Strategy First to outsource JA3 to someone else again and turn it into a cov... : Haxim
      • Jagged Union was fun-ish, but also stupid buggy : quartic0
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    Well, but there's some space for renewed gameplay without straying way out of the original concept. Did y... : Nitrium
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      If that's the WWII RTS where you could control specific units individually, then yes. But there are very... : Poor Yurik
      • oh and Company of Heroes. : Poor Yurik
      • What I was trying to say is that you can always evolve a genre with some new concepts, and not radically ... : Nitrium
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    so all games need to be the same boring shit? : jayares
    • Yes. : Poor Yurik
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      might as well make every game franchise into an FPS. Bejeweled - The FPS Peggle - The FPS Jeopardy -... : elathan
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        You need to do it with an older, but adored franchise. Like X-Wing the FPS. Actually come to think of it ... : Haxim
        • in an abstract sense, a space combat sim is an fps, just with different movement characteristics : RikiTiki2
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    SS? Check [Ruined with mechs] JA2? Check Never heard of the UFO games. Looks like something I'll have t... : Ebu
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      The two UFO games I played were pretty good, Aftermath and Aftershock. Never did play UFO: Afterlight tho... : fart
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        Oh yeah, if anyone does try UFO: Extraterrestrials and doesn't find the Gold version, make sure to get Bm... : fart
        • Oh its on steam http://store.steampowered.com/app/37030/ Ok, I'll stop talking to myself now. : fart
  • Wahhhhh!! No one is asking for a direct clone, but it is entirely possible to innovate and keep the same ... : Fred Garvin
  • I have bought and played all of the games in your post. Most of them aren't real turn-based games. : Goncyn
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    Jagged Alliance 1, 2, the expansion, and SS here! Suck it Yurik! : brickmatt
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      Oh and JA gold. : brickmatt
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        yo brickmatt which thing is better: Silent Storm 1 Silent Storm 2 what should I play first? : SpaecKow
        • I liked the original SS a lot, I'd start there. : brickmatt
  • Why do video game fans on the internet have to evaluate things from a sound financial perspective? I d... : peanut-
  • Be it because poor sales of other genres or not, I have a problem with every game becoming an FPS. What b... : ramshot
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    They should create the FPS to sell the Xcom name and not market it as "THE NEXT REAL XCOM" but more along... : technotica
    • imo, that would be best as it would get the name out to the millions who have NEVER heard of the IP and w... : technotica
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  FALLOUT FPS - "Hocks a giant loogey and spits* That is all folks. : deathofrats
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    Don't forget Metroid FPS! oh man the outrage over that was amazing : mikecyb
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      true. but this is a much greater shift imho. action <-->action but strategy to action? we'll see. w... : hamachi
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        You are thinking of C&C Renegade. : Poor Yurik
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          that's it! seemed like such an odd switch. : hamachi
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            Renegade was a fucking amazing game, you take that shit back! : IndigoAK
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              God the player models in that game were fucking terrible, and the story was lackluster. But the MP was am... : MercFox1
              • The MP was great on a good map with two good teams. Circling around defending the base in my helicopter w... : Marrbe
    • A turn-based strategy game is a bit further away from an FPS than a side-scrolling platformer, but the re... : omnova
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      Indeed it and FO3 are fun games but the fun they are are completely separate from the games we loved befo... : zakazi
      • why don't portables count? : RikiTiki2
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    SHADOWRUN FPS - "Hocks a giant loogey and spits* That is all folks. : razlebol
    • ya i know, The only experience I had with shadow run was the SNES or Genesis (cant remember exactly) game... : technotica
• ... we don't even know how its going to play other than its a FPS perspective. Quit being a whiny whiner ... : happynoodle
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  I prefer to stay optimistic on it. It's the only X-COM we're gonna get.

  Apr 14, 2010 5:42pm PDT
  I prefer to stay optimistic on it. It's the only X-COM we're gonna get. : smax
• I still have my box of Terror from the Deep which has this notebook included: http://www.xcomufo.com/x2n... : Nitrium
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  it blows my mind that there is still no a) Space exploration game better than moo2 b) Fantasy strateg... : alexthegreat2
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    Freespace 2 is still goat loads better then any other space sim. : Liquid
    • It's no TIE Fighter but epic in its own ways. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    I really liked Wing Commander Privateer for space exploration. Wish somebody would do a remake of the Wi... : mastermike569
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      Get yourself some Freelancer. The controls are odd at first, but wind up being pretty natural. : AxeMan808
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        yeah I didn't really mean that sort of exploration, I meant 4X : alexthegreat2
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          Oh, no. That was for the Privateer post. *You* want Galactic Civilizations 2. : AxeMan808
          • didn't like it... rather play moo2 (which I do) : alexthegreat2
          • I'll take a look at those games and see what I think. I just really liked the Wing Commander Universe bu... : mastermike569
  • Those are three of my favorite games of all time. I still play them sometimes. : Goncyn
• http://www.shackpics.com/files/oblivion2_pcbfl0wn7jeleuk1h0ql.jpeg : The Key
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  It's Shadowrun all over again. : Sailor of Fortune
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    Shadowrun could make an amazing FPS like Deus Ex. Making it multiplayer shooter is a different matter. Th... : derelict515
    • It's more like, "Oh sweet X-Com! Oh it's an FPS..." : Sailor of Fortune
  • At least with Shadow run, you control a single character, even in the pen and paper game. : baron calamity
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  I'll post this here. This is how this feels. http://nerfnow.com/comic/283 : elathan
  • Ha! Good one. Wish the final frame was drawn better. : baron calamity
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    cartoon dahanese is cute : RikiTiki2
    • no way. we have 2K belt buckles. none of this girlie hair clip bullshit. : dahanese
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  I'll admit I'm an Irrational and to some extent 2K fan boy. Loved Bioshock, Loved Bioshock 2 even more. I... : baron calamity
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    I thought X-COM alliance was dropped because of Hasbro? I was actually looking forward to that game at t... : mastermike569
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      X-com Genesis was canceled by Hasbro. (Think that was the New Chapel studio) After it was clear X-com All... : baron calamity
      • What exactly was XCom genesis going to be? Just a mainline XCom game? : SpaecKow
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  An FPS would be perfectly acceptable if it were in the vein of SWAT 3/4 or Rainbow Six (original, not tha : PenicillinX57
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    The rigid pre-planning of the old R6 games would be absolutely HORRID for a game like X-Com where constan... : Poor Yurik
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      Vegas 1 and 2 are not tactical shooters. You can play those games completely ignoring your squadmates eve... : SpaecKow
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        Disagreed, and disagreed. : Poor Yurik
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          Also one could argue that you could park your squad in a corner in any of the Rainbow or Ghost Recon game... : Poor Yurik
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            No they didn't turn into Doom, they turned into Gears of War. Also one could argue that you could par : SpaecKow
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              Having played Gears of War, I find the comparison mostly superficial. Yes, both had cover systems, both ... : Poor Yurik
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                This is an argument with someone else, I am not an R6 purist of any kind. When it comes to shooters I am ... : SpaecKow
                • seems like just a difference of opinion about vegas's merits. for me, i used the squadmates as kind of a... : Poor Yurik
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        Pretty much agreed. Gotta go back to swat4 for the last proper tac shooter where planning and using squad... : thewindcriesmary
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          Word, and you could give orders on the fly with the dropdown menu couldn't you in that game? : SpaecKow
          • yep, and the ai was pretty good so you could rely on them to do important stuff. : thewindcriesmary
  • I don'rt know. I hated SWAT 4. Drop in co op? Ugh. Playable sides such as one being the agents and others... : baron calamity
  • Something like this, yes. More along the lines of Raven Shield with aliens. : Marrbe
• GAMING INDUSTRY - *shits everywhere* : ETPC1
• At this point, I am just glad it's not an FPS MMO. But still, what the hell, man? : CrustaR
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  Let's make Zork into an FPS next, or Tass Times in Tone Town or Commander Keen. : Dr_Cube
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    Or Myst. The tagline could be something like "Your enemies have Myst you..." : Dr_Cube
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      Already happens. RealMyst and Myst V: End of Ages both had FPS controls. : IndigoAK
      • Yeah, but the next one will have a rocket launcher. : master_disaster_17
  • Commander Keen in first person, with Jumping Flash style pogo bouncing would be epic. : Drewus
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    maybe they could come up with something interesting for Leather Godesses of Phobos. : Borzoi
    • fps jill of the jungle? Or is that a required 3rd person shooter? : JuffoWup
  • Mad Dog Macree would fit perfectly. lol : chilln
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  Cry some more... You guys are starting to sound a lot like front page posters. : melt_core
  • Hey I will be an angry and disgusted nerd as long as I please. That is what the internet is for. They ... : peanut-
• I have a confession to make... I never played XCOM... : greh kleh
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  http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=22498905 Thanks for proving me right, X-Com "fans". I'm fucking pu... : roushimsx
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    You kidding me I would LOVE for this to turn out like Alliance. : SpaecKow
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      Cancelled and assets turned in to a lacklustre third-person shooter? :-) : Aldebrand
      • hahahahaha : baron calamity
      • With a cover system. : SpaecKow
• Bioshock 2 was a great game that earned 2k Marin a lot of respect from me. They obviously know what they ... : Sexpansion Pack
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  Boy.....a LOT of bitching going on about this and yet everyone said the Fallout 3 shitters were "haters".... : avatar_58
  • Never got far into F3. For some reason every single Beth game released since Oblivion (same engine i gues... : technotica
  • Completely different. Fallout 3 was still a single character RPG set in the Fallout universe. : baron calamity