Evening Reading: Social Gaming on the iPhone

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• Mech suit? shit, I'm sold : Reptile
• I hope they don't have this awfully rotten running camera anymore. It made me feel sick after a few minut... : Johnnsen
• I'm not sure why I want to play this... : kallanta
• lol, Gears of War 3, EVEON MORE AWSOMMM : dael
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  has there ever been a game with fun, well made underwater levels? I always remember underwater shit == fu... : wtf242
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    Earthworm Jim! : greasyjohn
    • Are you kidding me? The underwater level where the glass cracks in your submarine is one of the most tedi... : Head Rush
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    Mario 64? : kallanta
    • The murky water with the eel freaked me out :( : pupismyname
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    Tomb Raider Underworld's were pretty good. : beanman101283
    • yup, : shirif
    • good call : megarust32
  • megaman! : mobab
  • 'Underwater' for Gears will be like the underwater portions of Bioshock 2. Nobody in Gears of War is ligh... : drhazard
  • Ecco the Dolphin. : Talonus.
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    One of the MechWarrior Expansions... Ghost Bear I think? : rasputinreborn
    • YES! I remember that mission. God damn it was awesome cause I was all "HOLY SHIT IM UNDER WATER! IN A DAM... : kikilupo
    • oh good call! I had forgotten about that level. : Goblin au
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    Dark Age of Camelot! not really but it was interesting for it's time : jingletard
    • Everquest had an underwater dungeon. Kith Keep. IT was horrible. really buggy and hard : wtf242
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    TMNT, NES. : freakynipples69
    • Fuck that fucking damn and that fucking electric seaweed! : Talonus.
    • fuck that fucking shit : riptyde
    • You shut your mouth with that shit : hussdelrio
    • what the fuuuuuuuck : BoKnows
    • hahahahahahahah : Serpico74
    • This needs to be posted in response: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjUz8IT0CYg : Wikus Van De Merwe
    • NOOOOO : CrustaR
    • you shut your whore mouth : judge
  • Certainly not TMNT for NES : Tincan
  • sonic cd : CoRDS
  • Jaws : riptyde
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    Ocarina of Time. : AlexW1203
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      Except the constant pausing and changing menus to switch boots was the worst mechanic ever. Why not just ... : invisible_kid
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        n00b. couldn't you bind them to the yellow buttons. or am i a noob. : podung
        • Sure, but then the other items you use, like weapons become unbound. Imagine having to pause and go to th... : invisible_kid
  • Everquest : mobab
  • does Bioshock count? :P : riptyde
  • ecco the dolphin : mikecyb
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    Sonic. Or maybe Sonic 2. Whichever one had Hydrocity... : DOOManiac
    • that was sonic 3 : mikecyb
    • Labyrinth Zone was in Sonic 1. It was a little stressful. : Goblin au
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    Aquaria: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyZJo7RpCwo EOT : LoioshDwaggie
    • I like what i've played of it. and I think it was made by only 2 guys? : valael
  • Dino Crisis 2 : Dr_Cube
  • Thank Mario for that. : givemesnacks
  • Endless Ocean makes swimming around aimlessly fun. : Borzoi
  • eq's kedge keep was fun i thought, but I might be a minority in that. : valael
• fuuuuuuck yes! : emnii
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  soon as I read underwater locations all I can think of is the Phantom Menace : peat
  • All I can think of is Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles on NES : chrisschutz
• So let's make this boring ass monotonous cover system where all the debris are amazing chest high. Ok, s... : mobab
• I can't even bring myself to finish the second game. :( : Haku-Jin
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  Hmm, that actually has a spoiler in it if you haven't played GoW2 to the end. Which would be me. Oddly en... : Attica Blue
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    What, you mean, that there's a sequel? If you find anything in that post to be a spoiler you are waaaay t... : chrisschutz
    • It describes how GoW2 ends. : Johnny Law
• Now we just need tons of the bosses that can't see or whatever but charge after sounds they hear. And ca... : lcizzle
• I don't care about the game but I'm really curious to see how CliffyB looks presenting a game on TV. : SpaecKow
• :( Still waiting for Gears 2 on PC. I know I know it'll never happen. : ajvitaly
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  Was Gears 2 even worth playing? A bunch of stuff came out at the same time and I just never picked it up... : MacemanInTW
  • I enjoyed it a lot. But, I didn't enjoy the MP as much in the second. Maybe because I missed Rooftops. : sogelegos
  • I liked it, IMO better than the first game : Serpico74
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    I found it a chore to finish, as opposed to the first game which I couldn't stop playing. : Halen
    • I enjoyed the first one more. : shirif
  • same awesome co-op as 1 with some fun new mp modes : derelict515
  • Totally awesome. : givemesnacks
  • yea same here, i never bought it because the multiplayer was pure shit. Friends had nothing but trouble w... : -=kodiak=-
  • I hugely preferred it to the first one. : Toraz Chryx
  • I never bothered after playing Gears 1, I had no interest in 2 :/ : abrasion
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  Is it worth grabbing Gears 1 & 2 or am I too late? : PixelPie
  • Yeah, they are still awesome : drbriefs
  • Gears 2 is still in the top 10 most played games on XBL, but I wouldn't expect much with competitive mp, ... : Fenring42
• GoW3: Now with Extra Tentacles! : CecilPhilpot

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  I really like single player games, so I'm going to say no. : Dave-A
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    do you have a top 5? : Korban
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      Well, it changes all the time. I've been playing games steadily since the late '70s (!), and I'm not real... : Dave-A
      • TL;DR no : Korban
• this isn't true for me whether its PC or console : Maarten Goldstein
• no, not at all. : Korban
• I would say yes. : skinlab133
• No. My favorite PC game is Beyond Good & Evil, one of the few games I can play over and over and over ... : IndigoAK
• no : shirif
• nope, single player games = story, characters, etc (Deus Ex, Longest Journey, etc) although i had a bla... : devpaul
• Yes, Tribes, TFC and Starcraft have my strongest memories as a gamer but that golden era is over for the ... : melkore
• Maybe not the most memorable, but the most played, easiest to kill time and while having tons of fun stuf... : pyide
• ye(s) for the mo(s)t part I find thi(s) to be true : beastrabban
• I adore a great single-player experience more then a multiplayer experience. : ETPC1
• Out of all the games I played on PC, the one I played the most was from online play (Quake3), but I think... : rick
• Yes and no. Its between Freespace 2 and Tribes : MercFox1
• Nope, single player stuff all the way for memorable. : -JLN-
• yes absolutely : xxx2xxx
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  Yah, I'd say playing Quake and BF1942 were the most memorable for me. : stump
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    Yeah Quake : chungathebunga
    • Quake here as well. Would love to play a good old fashion game of Threewave QW CTF again. : bld
• Definitely some of my most memorable moments have been at LAN parties. Winning a last-man-standing game i... : crummynz
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  No. Single player games are usually deeper and I can take them at my own pace. X-Com, Deus Ex, Civ, Sys... : hussdelrio
  • This is probably the single biggest thing I dislike about MP gaming - the total reliance on other people ... : thetangent
• No. In fact my most memorable games are back in the day when I didn't know anyone else who played game... : TheVietSpecial
• Not even close. I'd sell my left nut for a new Tex Murphy game. : treefingers1
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  I love online games but I think I'm a single player gamer first. BUT single player games are also social.... : Shai-Tan
  • I like to watch : chrisschutz
• Yes, usually. : Godhatesfatpeople
• I don't know. WoW and TFC probably have the most playtime for me (WoW by far, over 100 days played betwee... : ArcKnight
• Yea for me, I had a very close CAL counter strike team for over 2 years and was a manager on the CAL draf... : peat
• pretty much. Quakeworld and WOW are my top PC gaming moments... nothing else came close. : TPSReport
• It's a mix for me. And of all my years multiplayer gaming online, I've never really found a "strongly kn... : PenicillinX57
• This is true for me. TF2, BF1942 and other shackbattles made the games for me. I currently play CS:S gun ... : lacker
• While I enjoy multiplayer games (mostly notable mods from the past such as The Specialists and Natural Se... : Goblin au
• Game I played most is really just the Quake series. Played the hell out of them on line. The most mem... : Thresher
• Yes and no. Two of my strongest gaming memories are of Darksun Online and Ultima Online, both being MM... : nukewinter
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  50 / 50 maybe : tomservo
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    I'm with this Tom Servo. : Dschinghis Khan
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      I'm with Dschinghis Khan : nevlos
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        I agree with tomservo and nevlos, but not KHAAAAAANNNNNNNN!!!!!!1! : AxeMan808
        • I'm with Tom Sawyer : Nitrium
  • You know that would involve you actually playing a game online, right? : Ajax
• Ive found that i have the best memories of games that have really good music that fits the game. If your ... : alphablu
• Not at all. : nandu666
• Hard to say. I do remember leading some great charges up dod_avalanche, and back when I played Insurgency... : greasyjohn
• Yes, Quake and EverQuest for me, both of which had very strong communities. Even now when I fire up Quake... : skizl
• Recently? Yeah, I suppose so. Particularly memories like when I was at Gearbox when we knocked Valve off ... : kungfusquirrel
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  yes, 1.6, sc, war 3, dota, and HoN : bongturbo
  • lol cs 1.6 : ease one
• Actually the GAMEs that I enjoy the most aren't online, with mouth-breathing jackasses fucking shit up fo : Kniggit
• Yup, quake and everquest : Demius
• I would say its 50/50. I have equally strong memories of playing doom sp, transport tycoon, kings/space/h... : strider_
• My most memorable games are from the time before online MP (mostly adventure games), so I'm going to say ... : MaxPete82
• no : capt tripps
• Nope. : Feisty Cadaver
• Not for me, games like Elder Scrolls and Half Life are more memorable than most online games. : lord_omega
• No. While I have had a tremendous amount of fun online, some of the most memorable moments were from sin... : Rag and Bone Man
• not even close. : Fredrik S
• L4D1 and L4d2 are definitely up there amongst my most memorable gaming, however I also have many, many me... : yourGarbageMan
• Not for me. I've loved my single player games far more than any multiplayer game I've played or owned. : ajvitaly
• no, i played a bit of UT, hl:dm and tfc, but then didnt touch online til TF2. single player or bust for ... : papaskot
• But no. For Ultima III: Exodus was indeed a single player game. (as were Gunship and Elite, come to think... : AxeMan808
• Well I enjoy MP games that I play with friends but my most memorable gaming moments are definitely SP exp... : SpaecKow
• Negative : thejm4n
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  Absolutely, TFC and CS in their prime was amazing. : PointlesS76
  • I had always gone crazy in my youth staying up crazy hours playing C64, NES, TG16, SNES games... but TFC ... : leadgold
• Yes. I've had some pretty hilarious moments on pubs amidst strangers but knowing the people involved when... : Dr_Cube
• Nope, normally the exact opposite. : baron calamity
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  All I know is when I place CS:S on the shack server, people get blasted back to HELL, and I'm doing the b... : pres589
  • No I think you have to actually hit people to do that : _jon
• me too. but also the fact that 3d was 'newish' for the games I enjoyed the most... quake1/2/3 and EQ. ... : jane911
• Nope. The best gaming experiences have been in single player games. Developers get to spend time making u... : Mmmmmoo
• Yeah i think so, EQ and ET. BG2 and PST stick out, but not as much as EQ. : valael
• yep. Rainbow 6 on MS Zone Early TFC Early CS betas Front Line Force Natural Selection Battlefiel... : aeg1x
• The ones I burned the most time on, sure, but not necessarily the most memorable or the ones I liked the ... : Agrona
• nope: X-com, MOO, Star Controll II, Tie Fighter, Ultimas, Civ, Dune II, all single player : retardhumper
• ...nope, my most memorable games are all singleplayer, on any platform. I'm just an antisocial loser I gu... : Orange Pylon
• definitely YES. : Sgt_Boomstick
• yes, WoW, BF1942. : metralgia
• nope : mista mista
• Yes : lotus2133
• Some are (like Quake and Tribes), others aren't (like Fallout and TIE Fighter). : Sapiens
• Yes. Cal cs matches and my first relic raid in daoc with several hundred players : maulla
• most played? yes, online. most memorable? no, offline. : CecilPhilpot
• Negative. My favorite games are memorable single player stories. : SerratedDrums
• yes quake/quakeworld for me : .frame
• Yes. Quake 3 for me. : lightly inclined
• HELL NO! all my best gaming memories are from the days when most of you weren't even alive, and we wer... : araczynski
• ultima online, everquest, quake 3 : ]pm[chem
• Today, it's the SP games that are the most memorable. Yesterday, it was the games I played with my frien... : Anastomosis
• Nah, I'd say I have just as many good memories of SP games as MP. : Whistler77
• no, online games are kind of a fungible experience. they're more defined by the people you play with, and... : DeBurgo
• Yes. Playing Duke Nukem and Red Alert 2 via dial-up, Q3, WoW. Without a doubt. : Head Rush
• Yes and it was DoD:S : .Jayson
• To answer Freakynipplese69's question - Nope, it's an even mixture between MP games and SP games - my all... : wytefang
• nothing has ever quite matched the feeling i felt during the old Everquest days (before luclin expansion)... : jarek99
• from the gaming age of about 8 to 22, there was no 'online'. : radula
• Nope, not at all. My most memorable moments have almost primarily been in SP games (games like TIE Fighte... : thetangent
• No. MP games are highly variable with shit moments and great. SP is where the real consistent gems are. : retarded talking dinosaur
• I was going to say yes but after thinking about it my decision changed. Diablo and Tribes online are grea... : nutcrackr
• Not really. The games I have the most fond memories of and played the most are games like Sim City, Civil... : SilverSnake
• Nope. Thief or Deus Ex, or the first run through Sam'n'Max or Full Throttle have to be tops. Don't get me... : Conan
• 50-50. I love both SP and MP. Though if talking only about MP games? Yeah, the community is the most impo... : Autocrawler
• Yes, because SP games get boring fast, once you learn all of the "shocking" enemy placement tactics, that... : Amnesty_intl2
• Yes. Quake, Starcraft, Counterstrike, Warcraft, WoW, etc. : [7]kami
• I most memorable moments were probably playing call of duty 1 rifles only...back when the franchise actua... : rabidsqurl
• Single player, or coop with my best friends. I've had some pretty good times with multiplayer, but I can... : Clone42
• Most memorable? Not necessarily. Ones I played the most? Definitely I don't think I've played any g... : Vincent Grayson
• I remember one clan game of LMCTF where I could do no wrong with the railgun. I was a decent player, but ... : steelsamurai
• most memorable: not at all, not even close. Those are a ton and only few of them have multiplayer capabil... : razorblade79
• Hell No. My most memorable moment? Freespace 2, and watching in horror as a Shivan battlecruiser warp... : Broken Canoe
• Not even close. Most MP games are pretty forgetable for me in much the same way as I don't remember any ... : Gaughranorama
• Not really. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• Nope. Games like WoW and DAoC might be online, but I pretty much soloed everything that you reasonable c... : mountdreamer
• negative, although it's reeeally hard to compare - my number one memorable game was Tribes, but there are... : Veegeezee
• No. dummy text. : el0j
• No. But I have had a ton of fun with online games that I play with friends. : Sylvanus
• While I played both single and multiplayer games growing up, I would have to agree that the ones I played... : mlev
• No, the multiplayer games I've played a lot got boring eventually and I generally ended up getting tired ... : Gish Forever
• Not by a long shot. : dumb.
• Nope. I've had a lot of fun with certain games that feature robust, online communities, but nowhere near ... : The Bobman
• Nope, single player. : deadhorse
• Yes, Tribes. Although I play few online PC games now, since all games since Tribes just make me wish I w... : jeffcox111
• Absolutely YES. Unreal Tournament Instagib community and the Halo PC community kicked so much ass :( : Mad BH
• Nope, the ones played at home against friends and family are : painangel
• Not in the slightest. In fact, I would say UT99 is the only game I've ever really enjoyed playing online... : J. Kyle
• Partially yes.. partially no. I spent an UNBELIEVABLE amount of time playing Wizardry and Ultima games o... : Gwyndion
• Yes... i played Joint Operations for about 5 years... and you always saw same people and squads all the t... : megreedy
• yes UT there were a group of us who played and it was some amazing times. Same thing with the original Qu... : GodFather
• No! No! : DragonSire
• Nope. : holinka

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  HOLY SHIT 360 dollars!! : papaskot
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    360 DOLLARYDOOS!? You wait til I tell the Prome Minister! : Dave-A
    • Eeeeyyyyyyy Andy!!? : reelbk
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  Have they got a headphone plug? : SpaecKow
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    no, that's what the cable is for. So I can run it up to a convenient point on my desk and hotswap. : aeg1x
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      I have one of these for the same reasons, works great: http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/pr... : H@rvester
      • I made one of these out of a printer switch box as a kid. : dafugg
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  what's so special about those speakers? : RikiTiki2
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    Resident Audioengine Pimp at your service (no genuine affiliation) http://www.stereophile.com/budgetco... : pyros
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      Damn, that article makes me want to buy the bookshelf pair. : reelbk
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        Any stereophile article will make you want to buy whatever they are "reviewing" : DarkWolf5
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          Motherfuckers. They hooked me with "neodymium". : reelbk
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            They are good speakers. I just really don't like stereophile. I canceled my free subscription because I b... : DarkWolf5
            • hahahaha, i love this post : retarded talking dinosaur
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  You will actually pull a trigger : haiku
  • literally : opengl128
  • They should make the checkout button a liltle gun : Goto10
  • we dont know he's not using this, i guess. http://www.everyjoe.com/files/130/2008/05/zalman-fps-gun-mou... : papaskot
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    someone should make a mouse that has a trigger button on it for shopping purposes : ninjase
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      You could always hook up a 360 controller : Dave-A
      • Click left stick to remove from shopping cart : Dave-A
  • I pulled the metaphorical trigger. I'm too poor for this. : aeg1x
  • I want to start an e-commerce site where on the final page to submit payment, there is a picture of a rev... : Bean
  • heh... : Satyric0n
• Oh man, I remember the Audio Engine (original) speakers when I worked retail, those things stood up to cu... : GrimmyD
• Do it. : ProtoPunch
• If you have the space, I bet these would sound better: http://www.alesis.com/m1active620 : dfay
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  I'm sorry but the idea of "fantastic music reproduction" without a subwoofer or even decent woofer is lau... : retarded talking dinosaur
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    Ugh. I am the biggest audio snob in the world but these are amazing speakers. My main system has a pair o... : pyros
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      I'm not doubting they are impressive. They are just MISSING things: headphone jack, volume knob for headp... : retarded talking dinosaur
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        I'm pretty sure volume knob is on the back. http://www.audioengineusa.com/tech_stuff_a2.php Also, w... : batkiwi
        • I bought the Z-2300 due to budget constraints and availability in the Netherlands. God, i wish i could ... : [7]kami
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          Oh come on, they're not that bad as long as you turn the sub all the way down. In an open room they even ... : retarded talking dinosaur
          • ^^ loves giant knobs : nodebug
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    What? For music any system that requires an external subwoofer has already failed. It's obvious that boo... : batkiwi
    • Agreed. So many computer speakers have crap midrange and low mids and then this BOOMING bass and this hug... : Serpico74
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      Ugh, even proper tower speakers often drop off completely about 40-50 hz, and I have *lots* of music with... : retarded talking dinosaur
      • ugh : moshman
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    The former de facto studio monitors were Yamaha NS-10s and they are not what you would call huge. They w... : Halen
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      NS-10s weren't popular because of their fidelity - they were popular because they sounded a lot like most... : TabsAZ
      • That's how it started, but they ended up having properties that were remarkably useful for nearfields, ba... : Halen
  • yes, because the frequencies reproduced by the sub are so prevalent! : moshman
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  I purchased the Asus Xonar DX Soundcard specifically to see what all the fuss is about. I am the biggest : abrasion
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    Some of us aren't so lucky -- my onboard sound is more than willing to tell me when i'm scrolling or wher... : retarded talking dinosaur
    • I hear scroll whine with a discrete card D: : MamiyaOtaru
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    This is the truest thing you've ever posted Abrasion. : peanut-
    • Thank you peanut, what makes me happy is I spent the money to absolutely confirm my suspicions. Now I 100... : abrasion
  • This all seems very subjective to me and I think you're making it sound like a rule of thumb when it real... : ramshot
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    If you're running digital out it doesn't matter at all. : batkiwi
    • That's the only way I can defend the card - it does digital out 5.1 encoding with fake EAX or whatever it... : abrasion

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  No. : mechanicalgrape
  • This pretty much sums up my thoughts on that list. : MacemanInTW
  • Hahaha. Perfect first reply to a "top 10". : Rice-Rocketeer
• reads like a list written by someone born in 1990 i usually don't mind decent top=10's but this was am... : EvilDolemite
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  wtf goldeneye at #1 and no quake/quakeworld? : .frame
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    goldeneye, better than quakeworld, half-life, duke nukem 3d, NOLF, system shock 2, deus ex, and the origi... : EvilDolemite
    • these fucking lists are always terrible : .frame
• Burn everything with fire. : c0bra
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  Doom by default should be #1. #7 makes this list a sham : ninjase
  • i think i have to agree with you. doom is the best FPS ever, still. : EvilDolemite
  • top 10 lists are a sham by design. : Turd Ferguson
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    Why doom and not castle wolfenstein? : daVinci1980
    • Doom defined id and brought the genre to the forefront of PC gaming : Sink the Pink
    • because it was way more awesome : ninjase
  • I hope for your soul you mean 6. and not 7. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  how did oswald not even make the list : rgoer
  • toooooooo soooooooooooooooooon : daVinci1980
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  man I'm sick of the hard-on everyone has for Golden Eye. fuck this shit. : mikecyb
  • DIE PLZ : NFXFSX
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    it is such a terrible game. Can't shoot through holes in the ceiling but you can drop down. Okay! : redfive
    • Just watching people play makes me nauseous. It's like staring a rubix cube endlessly spinning on one axi... : c0bra
    • that's a technical decision, not a design one : moshman
  • Seriously. : Portax
• WORST LIST EVER GUYS : stump
• lol fucking terrible : eeeealmo
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  In all honesty, it's not a bad list. It's just that Wolfenstein 3D should be at #1. : leadgold
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    there are a lot of good to great games on that list. none are what i'd call bad or even mediocre. but... : EvilDolemite
    • dude I totally hear what you are saying.. Frankly I would be cool with Wolf3D at #1 for first really e... : leadgold
• lol at bioshock and halo on the list : mobab
• April Fools! : _jon
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  List fails. Halo and Bioshock are ranked too high and there's no Battlefield game. Also, their #1 choice ... : Dr_Cube
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    Come to think of it Bioshock shouldn't even be on there. : Dr_Cube
    • Yeah, for the reasons they listed System Shock 2 should be on there instead of Bioshock. : DerHuhnTeufel
• Counter-Strike needs to be HIGHER : H@rvester
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  wut I don't understand the love for Goldeneye ... it wasn't awful but it wasn't that good either. : InfoBiter
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    It was good, it just wasn't great. It was the first console FPS I ever enjoyed. : Haku-Jin
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      how many existed before that? PS1 ports of doom? what else was there? I guess if all that existed was ... : mikecyb
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        i feel bad because i always defend halo but i never thought goldeneye was that great : EvilDolemite
        • I'm not familiar enough with Goldeneye to really pass judgement but every gameplay video and everything e... : mikecyb
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        Turok, Forsaken? I'm sure there was quite a few because I was pretty turned off by the genre on that pla... : Haku-Jin
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          Turok came out a couple of months before Goldeneye and Forsaken was out a year after it : mikecyb
          • Turok was legitimately a lot of fun if you could get past the fog. Death animations were hilarious. : Conan
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    Right. Seems to be one of those games that everyone loves to talk about how great it was but it wasn't. I... : Phreakin
    • it's only because most gamers cut their teeth on it. : redfive
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    It was great back in the day with 4 players in the same room sharing a TV screen. Somehow that game was p... : bozer
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      but why is that better than Halo on 4 TV screens with 4 players on each one? the whole thing seems kind ... : _jon
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        Probably, yeah. Or at least, it was one of the first to take it to a console environment. : The Grolar Bear
        • Goldeneye, that is. : The Grolar Bear
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    To put Goldeneye in perspective you have to know what other FPS's had been released. You had your heavy ... : Wombat Woo
    • 4 Player split-screen and all the different multiplayer options was what made Golden Eye awesome. Halo... : podung
    • I remember clearly. I also remember playing and thinking "I'd rather be playing Quake" : InfoBiter
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  1. Quake 2 2. Counter Strike everything else is just whatever : arizona bay
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    I played Quake/Quakeworld long after Q2 was released. It went Q1 -> Q3 for me. : aethyr
    • I had a ton of fun with Quake 2, but mostly with all the crazy mods. CTF, Devistator, Capture the Chic... : MacemanInTW
• the second page is messed up :( : shika.art
• GE as number 1 = lmao : Godhatesfatpeople
• Duke 3d, Half-life 1 (not 2!!), System Shock 2, Quake 1 (not 2!!) should obviously be on there. : cncpun
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  Is it just me or does this page just render as text? e.g. <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML ... : Agrona
  • Well it's on Digg so they probably broke it : Metatron85
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  that link opens the source code for me. : baconisgod
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    mirror http://rorr.im/digg.com/gaming_news/top_ten_first_person_shooter_of_all_time/ : Metatron85
    • Mirror has the same problem. Try it in IE, it's text in Chrome for me too. : mockery
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  i still fail to understand the love for goldeneye. : -=kodiak=-
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    it used to be great. i remember about 2 years ago a friend and i fired it up for old time sake. within 30... : jarek99
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      The multiplayer was just a lot of fun back then. There were a ton of weapons including three different ty... : BlackCat9
      • Yeah, the huge amount of gameplay modes really did it for me. It was the first game to make me stay up u... : valael
    • i remember kids at school gushing over goldeneye 64. During that time i was WAAAAY into QWTF and quake 1 ... : -=kodiak=-
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    Its status is elevated because at the time everything else on consoles for the most part sucked (for fps)... : qwpeoriu
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      i just find it nuts that it seems in the past 2 years or so, the absolute nostalgic hype for goldeneye ha... : -=kodiak=-
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        Without Goldeneye, Half-Life would have had no proper inspiration for its indoor levels, and probably wou... : Amnesty_intl2
        • You honestly believe that Half-Life would have just been some shitty game if goldeneye had never been rel... : qwpeoriu
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  The fact that Quake 3 isn't anywhere on the list makes the list just wrong. I'm sorry, but for pure, r... : daVinci1980
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    quake3 was mainstream multiplayer, and crappy. : Rigg5
    • lol wtf. gtfo. : Godhatesfatpeople
    • lol for reals? : Metatron85
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      Just look how wrong you are. :( I'm sorry, but next you will say UT was better. : MacemanInTW
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        http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/1999/12/15/ : Kentor
        • I knew which one this way without even looking. Probably one of their funniest. : MacemanInTW
    • hahahaha : synapse19
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      You're complaining about "mainstream" in a list that includes Goldeneye and Perfect Dark? : Conan
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        You have to admit Quake3 is an Engine first and a Game second. Licensing made them a lot of money. It... : Rigg5
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          That still doesnt answer for your retarded statement in the OP. : Godhatesfatpeople
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            Would you like me to explain it to you again? : Rigg5
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              Yeah because that second one was wrong too. : Godhatesfatpeople
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                Quake3 brought nothing new to the table in gameplay. It only took things away. The main purpose of Qu... : Rigg5
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                  were you even playing games in 2000, 2001? EVERYONE played q3a. it was THE deathmatch game. all the lans... : radula
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                    Did I not just say how it was made to SIMPLIFY the ability for the masses to play the title? The large... : Rigg5
                    • Got rid of the learning curve? Now I know you're trolling. : Godhatesfatpeople
                    • right. you've never played it then. you should play against someone GOOD. they will mop the floor with... : radula
                    • I'm sorry, but you're so wrong it's unbelievable. You should seriously just stop writing. Q3 required ... : daVinci1980
                    • haha you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. i also like how you haven't managed to actually s... : synapse19
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                      If Q3A was so simplistic as you say. It never would have carried "ESPORTS" on it's back for as long as ... : lcizzle
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                        The learning curve was the extreme skew that air control and trick jumping gave experienced players over ... : Rigg5
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                          so you choose to completely ignore osp, cpma, ra3 and any and all maps that weren't released directly by ... : synapse19
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                            Nah I played them and they were fun, but the biggest problem with Quake3 was how the engine handled mods.... : Rigg5
                            • well shit, i guess qwtf shouldn't have needed to exist either, or qw at all, or hell, even q2 : synapse19
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                      "THE MASSES" is an inane argument. Because "the masses" like something doesn't invalidate its quality. : Rice-Rocketeer
                      • I'm being particular about the ease of adoption. By the time Q3 rolled around we had two generations of "... : Rigg5
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                  The gameplay you speak of is why it was great. They took out any fat that wasn't needed and brought back ... : Godhatesfatpeople
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                    RA3 does not equal Quake3. Even I liked RA3. : Rigg5
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                      Well fuck. All those years spent playing RA3 were meaningless. : Godhatesfatpeople
                      • RA3 was a mod, so this isn't even arguable. And it was lots of fun :P If RA3 was sold in stores I woul... : Rigg5
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                    I guess I better go find my keys and fire up some Q3 this weekend. All this talking about it makes me wa... : MacemanInTW
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                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RmpiTYP34dw&fmt=22 :) : Godhatesfatpeople
                      • Great video! : MacemanInTW
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                  "They implimented CDKeys, took away well adopted, fun-inducing and skill-creating features of their past ... : MacemanInTW
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                    I am a Quake2 player. I wasn't spoiled by starting out my gaming experience with fast rockets, so I could... : Rigg5
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                      quake 2 was garbage, I skipped directly to quake 3 from quake 1. : boomstickah
                      • I put up with Quake 2 since at the time thats what all my friends were playing and the lans I attended we... : Godhatesfatpeople
                      • Quake2 was just different. It required more planning due to the really sappy weapon switching and movemen... : Rigg5
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                      So basically you're a closet UT player. Great dude. : daVinci1980
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                        he's not... rigg5 is a quake2 player... double jumping in the q2 sense is much different than in the u... : nova_x
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                          I played the hell out of q2 as well. Strafe jumping was still an art form in q3. : daVinci1980
                          • it is.. but q2's was on another level in my opinion... at least q3's retains the natural id feel and isn'... : nova_x
                        • I do miss doing that playing Q2DM1. I was one of the first out of my group of weekend LAN guys that got ... : MacemanInTW
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                      how the hell does a less balanced weapon setup create more variety? less balance means everyone uses the ... : synapse19
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                        Actually, I got third place at Quakecon. : Rigg5
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                          which quakecon was this? because iirc quakecon only had one q2 tourney before they moved to q3, and you s... : synapse19
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                            It takes an element of risk/adrenaline out of the game. If I've got a fresh kill, loaded, in control ... : Rigg5
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                              the only thing it lessens is the amount of randomness and complete luck changing the outcome of a game th... : synapse19
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                                A varied weapon balance and luck is necessary at the spawn in order to balance out the inbalance that is ... : Rigg5
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                                  ..which quakecon? : _jon
                                  • nevermind, found ya! : _jon
        • I don't have to admit that at all; Quake 3 certainly took up more of my time than any game that licensed ... : Conan
        • no, you're wrong. go away : moshman
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          what the fucking hell are you talking about? only a handful of games used the quake 3 engine. : mikecyb
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            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Tech_3 : Rigg5
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              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Unreal_Engine_games : daVinci1980
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                http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Quake1map11.svg might as well post that if you're going to include u... : nova_x
                • I was just referring to the Unreal Engine 2/2.5 section of the page, which was the comparable engine to I... : daVinci1980
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            lol no even mw2 can trace bits of its code back to q3 : nova_x
            • No, mike is actually right. id prides itself on the fact that it licenses its engines to only a handfu... : daVinci1980
    • Mainstream in what sense? In the sense that it was the most popular FPS of it's day? It sold way fewer co... : daVinci1980
    • I agree. Not the popular thing to say but you're right : Phreakin
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      I played a bit of QuakeLive CA with you a while back, and it looks like you still play. So I am confused... : gnomish
      • Yeah I logged in to play with a friend a few days ago. It doesn't inspire me but it's nice to shoot somet... : Rigg5
    • You and me, we're no longer friends. : InfoBiter
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    i always felt like the original was the best, it was also the first game that was actually 3D and not jus... : valael
    • or maybe it was Descent. : valael
    • QW was my cherry-popper in the 3d world of FPS gaming. And was for years after. Hated Quake 2. Then Quake... : Godhatesfatpeople
• I didn't like Goldeneye the first time I played it. Then it became my favorite game of all time. <3 grena... : lowayne
• why in the fuck does quake2 make such a list over quake1? Listing Quake2 over Quake1 pretty much confirm... : VuduChild
• someone forgot to compile php. : atom519
• the fact that the list didnt end with the 3 quakes listed in some order invalidates it : nova_x
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  That should've been renamed "Top Ten Shooters of All-Time By A Console Kiddie" He clearly does not kno... : Matt Burris
  • I realize I forgot Duke Nukem 3D, so replace #78 Unreal Tournament 2004 with it and move the list down fr... : Matt Burris
  • I'll try mine if you don't mind 1. Doom / Doom 2 2. Unreal Tournament 3. Wolfenstein 3D 4. Quake 3 ... : guigr
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  Never liked Goldeneye and still don't understand the love for Bioshock, great looking, great atmosphere, ... : Pettytheft
  • It wasn't even that great of a shooter anyway. : Matt Burris
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    Yeah, bioshock is another game that's ridiculously overrated. The game dragged on way too long, peaked wa... : qwpeoriu
    • I agree with this 100% : Rigg5
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  Half-Life 2 over Half-Life? Fuck no. : uncleanmonkey
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    I actually agree with that, but probably because I played the original HL a couple of years after it was ... : qwpeoriu
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      You have to remember that Half-Life 2 was released when Unreal was the best shooter to date. It was so fa... : uncleanmonkey
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        First sentence should say "Half-Life 1". : uncleanmonkey
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          ...and Quake instead of Unreal just sayin' : Sludgehead
          • No, Unreal was released a few months earlier and it was definitely a pretty big step up from Quake 1/2 fo... : uncleanmonkey
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      man i just remembered this. Is this one game probably the most forgotten of all FPS in recent memory? ... : -=kodiak=-
      • Sin was overshadowed by its own multiplayer demo. : [7]kami
  • Damn straight baby. : abrasion
  • Agreed. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• I played the shit out of Goldeneye in the N64 era, but it really hasn't stood up at all. I can happily go... : peanut-
• The problem that always arises with these lists is that "Top" is such a vague descriptor. Top what? Top... : action wombmate
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  In no particular order without a lot of thought. -Doom & Doom2 -Deus Ex -No One Lives Forever -Quak... : Jumperus
  • I'd include Thief2, but even compared to Deus Ex you don't really shoot much. : Jumperus
• No Lee Harvey Oswald?? No John Wilks Booth? What the hell kinda list... : Nullzero
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  Halo included on the list = fail. Halo higher than Doom means the piece of shit writing this article nee... : abrasion
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    I think Halo is deserving of a place on at least some kind of "top shooters" list. Like I mentioned in m... : action wombmate
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      Top 10 console shooters yes, top 1 over rated games of all times yes. Top 50 shooters ever? Maybe sure. : abrasion
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        You can be as snarkily dismissive as you like, but only a fool would completely ignore the obvious impact : action wombmate
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          Impact on PC gaming? Nil. Not a bad game mind you, it's just that it's so insanely overrated the only wa... : abrasion
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            Addendum: debate aside, putting it above doom? fucking sacrilage : abrasion
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              It's kind of funny to think that Doom is still one of the best FPS ever (with zDoom). That genre has been... : guigr
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                I love action adventure movie shooters! But if you're going to play the nostalgia strings don't put halo ... : abrasion
                • I think part of my love for Unreal Tournament was it was really a GAME. Red vs Blue Whoever captures ... : guigr
          • It had plenty of impact on PC gaming. All of it was bad. : MamiyaOtaru
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            Nil? Are you high? Don't be so blinded by bias that you're unwilling to accept facts. There's probably... : action wombmate
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              They are messing with my doom man, I have to fight for honour here :( : abrasion
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                "Messing" with Doom? What the hell are you on about? : action wombmate
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                  Disloyal to Doom and on Shacknews, an id software lovers hangout? - I think you need to click logout up t... : abrasion
                  • I can't tell anymore if you're serious or not but either way this post is pretty goddamn funny. : action wombmate
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              I think if you're going to make an argument of this you ought to lay out in specifics what you think Halo... : SpaecKow
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                Halo popularized (but not necessarily "invented") several things - -No health packs. The recharging ... : action wombmate
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                  -No health packs. The recharging shield mechanic has now become a mainstay of shooters in the form of reg : SpaecKow
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                    I was only listing a few things, peanut- has some good additions in his post below mine as well. Wel : action wombmate
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                      .... Mass Effect 2 is not a PC game. It's a game Bioware made trying to marry what it knows how to make ( : SpaecKow
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                        ME2 isn't a PC game? That's weird, because I think I've been playing it on my PC for the last month. Lo... : action wombmate
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                          PC games are a thing that existed once. There was a separate tradition of PC design, PC developer communi : SpaecKow
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                            You can certainly make the argument that Halo helped change PC games for the worse (not that everyone wo... : action wombmate
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                              I would make the argument that Halo helped make PC games extinct. Not that I would blame it particula... : SpaecKow
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                                Well, I'm a fan of fun games, no matter how they manifest themselves. Apparently you have a different ta... : action wombmate
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                                  Oh come on, what does "fun" mean anyway. It's like saying the sun is warm. Console games are fun, I'm enj... : SpaecKow
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                                    I don't think I really need to tell you what fun is, do I? Yes, I acknowledge that PC games look diffe... : action wombmate
                                    • Then I will continue to look silly. : SpaecKow
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                  Limited weapon inventory has been around longer. If you want to credit it to one game, make it Counter-St... : Mad Brahmin Disease
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                    Fine, give it credit then. That doesn't take away from the fact that Halo only served to make it more po... : action wombmate
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                      I disagree with that. : Mad Brahmin Disease
                      • And I love Halo. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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                Halo had a huge impact on other FPS games - not necessarily for the better in my opinion, but undeniably ... : peanut-
                • And also regenerating health/shield mechanics of course. : peanut-
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                  Dual wielding has been done on or off many times, Halo's not really a trendsetter there. certainly not ve... : SpaecKow
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                    I think you have a far more static and narrow definition of what a "PC Game" is than is really relevant i... : peanut-
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                      I think SpaceKow and abrasion are still living in 1999. : action wombmate
                      • abrasion loves dumb gay games like Uncharted to death. I however, am beyond hope. : SpaecKow
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          The impact console shooters had on PC shooters is that people stopped making PC shooters and started maki... : SpaecKow
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            God I love you right now, can you please get in this shit for me? These motherfuckers are messing with do... : abrasion
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              So you mean you don't love me all the time? : SpaecKow
              • abrasion why are we even in this relationship if you don't love me? : SpaecKow
  • I agree completely. : Sylvanus
• a controversial internet list, how dare they put in game a over game b! this is like a personal attack! : razorblade79
• Apparently i've never played the best shooter of all time. : Klebold
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  Less BioShock, more Duke Nukem 3D : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • Internet lists are shit and far more interesting are the discussions that come from them than what some d... : SpaecKow
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  No Crysis? *sad face* : jbury
  • Totally should be on that list. : abrasion
• Agree with goldeneye 007. Its still the only game that ive sat around with friends and played through for... : thewindcriesmary
• Without Blake Stone: Aliens ofGold this list is worthless. : Totenjaeger
• BioShock has NO PLACE being anywhere near that list. Halo should consider itself lucky too, frankly. : MeestaNob
• I havent played CS since TF2 was released ;) : sikander

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• I did a 2h warrior and it worked well. It was a lot of fun too. : noxiousgg
• If you're playing Dragon Age, you're doing it right. : Earl Greigh
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  Two handed weapons is for tanks, so invest in armour and upgrade your constitution as well till you have ... : SpaecKow
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    sword and shield is for tanks dual wield is for dps 2h sword is for suckers!! : wendigo
    • fuck your shield, my 2h sword/axe dwarf will kick your sword/shielded ass! : papaskot
  • I've found for a tank dex > con because you're harder to hit in the first place, and you'll probably have... : Thick Axelrod
• Same here, although I went for sword & shield for tanking. This game is everything I wanted NWN to be. : Thick Axelrod
• Man... bought this during the holiday sales... fired it up once and saw tens of hours go up in smoke... I... : dael
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  honestly the game was pretty boring for me as warrior--I found myself playing my mage more in battle anyw... : mysled
  • Tons easier with a rogue, too. I couldn't be arsed with Lilly-whatshername. : felicia
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    Yep pretty much everything is better than warrior. A thieving rogue is the coolest :( : SpaecKow
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      Tell that to oghren's almost 1k damage. : mobab
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        I think we're talking player character here. Unless you chose to be an Oghren from the beginning and f... : felicia
        • Oghren's a warrior. He really has nothing special. I made him a 2-handed warrior. : mobab
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    The game is laughably easy with a mage heavy party. : Ellissd
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      I must be making my mage wrong. During the expansion, there is a spell caster + a fire golem (or element... : mobab
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        The real trick is that it's pretty easy to set up warriors through the automation thing, but to have a go... : mysled
        • I think you're right about constantly controlling mages, but I extend this to everyone I really hate lea... : mobab
• That's the only way to play. Massive damage + damage absorption all around. Oghren managed to hit for f... : mobab
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  related, i think you'd really like mass effect 2 : EvilDolemite
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    Why? I loved Dragon Age, easily my game of the year, but I couldn't even finish the first Mass Effect. ... : Ellissd
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      agreed. i hated ME but like DA (wouldnt call it my goty thought) : papaskot
      • I have to be honest, I don't finish many games. I guess i'm kind of picky? I don't know. But it's definit... : Ellissd
    • Try try again : Mondo
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      ME 2 is a different beast. : master_disaster_17
      • no moon buggy :( : steelsamurai
      • no moon buggy :) : marmite
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    Yeah, the story unfolds in almost the exact same manner. : Topsiderover
    • But the game doesn't play similarly at all. : Vincent Grayson
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    i really disliked KOTOR so i've stayed far away from those games : wtf242
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      I almost think Dragon Age is more like KOTOR than ME is. : Haku-Jin
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        to be fair i never got off the first world. boring fucking game : wtf242
        • The first world was the only bad part of the game. :( : MacemanInTW
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          Not a Star Wars fan? I'm not sure it's worthy of all the acclaim but I found it to be an above average g... : Haku-Jin
          • By the way, give Mass Effect a shot. I liked, but didn't love the first game. The second game was fanta... : Haku-Jin
        • Dude that's like someone saying Demon's Souls is boring when they never beat the first boss :( : NastyJack
    • *mind blown* : coyoterys
  • I recently started this (imported my character from ME1 to!) and it is fucking fantastic. It's actually b... : thetangent
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  Mages are infinitely better, but it's good you're not playing one as playing a mage completely destroyed ... : Geoffrois
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    did you do Arcane Warrior or something else? what is the best mage spec? : grendel
    • tons of willpower and just nuking everything in sight. Having two in your party makes the game far, far ... : DonkeyPopsicle
    • I went crowd control + healing on mine. There are a lot of really great crowd control spells, my favorite... : Geoffrois
• Playing on 360? : MagicWishMonkey
• ps3 : wtf242
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  i want to buy this for my imac but i'm scared : packav
  • i'm sure it will be on Steam for Mac, that's what i'm waiting for : CecilPhilpot
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  is your charector gay yet? : whistletits
  • Tight Hipster Jeans +12 to Emotions -52 Strength $300 Gold Bonus Ability: Causes enemies to confu... : Goto10
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  It's late but I kinda wanna pick up Heavy Rain again :/ : Deathlove
  • I just started it tonight!! I'm really enjoying it so far : Mr.SEX
• 2-handed is good. Slow, but hard-hitting. Lots of options for disabling. Another fun one was: Rogue... : CRasterImage
• That game was fucking epic. I spent somewhere between 60 and 70 hours on a single playthrough, and got st... : thetangent
• Dragon Age is definitely an incredible RPG. Perfect for people who like Baldur's Gate and Infinity Engin... : KePoW
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  Glad you're enjoying it. Many people complain of the difficulty of controlling and micromanaging multipl... : herradura99
  • For many of us it's not about the difficulty (you can turn the game down to easy, anyway), but the fact t... : ramshot
• I still haven't played it seriously. I hate myself for that! : guigr
• One of the most boring games I ever played all the way through. It had interesting choices but other tha... : mrwolf710
• 1. Is it single player? 1. Is it better than Demon's Souls? I just beat GoW3 last night abs I need somet... : dodob

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  Proof positive of something I've said for a long time. I hate what MS did to the OS market in the '90s as... : dfay
  • Oh and I actually write ActionScript for one of the projects I'm on at work, and I hate Flash and Adobe. ... : dfay
  • Exactly, always be careful for what you wish for. : Visceral Monkey
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    I approve of this though to be honest, only because I feel that Apple's huge popularity and base will spe... : K1Bond007
    • It's not like HTML5 is or is going to struggle to gain adoption... : derelict515
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      Flash is faster in many cases and does things HTML5 cannot. I guess if you want an open standard fine, bu... : retarded talking dinosaur
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        flash? fast? not on OSX it isn't. : Toraz Chryx
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          It's fast for me. Sent from my PC. : Godhatesfatpeople
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            My point is that Adobe's track record of "flash is fast" on Apple platforms is... hilarious. : Toraz Chryx
            • its like 5% of the market and Apple won't give Adobe the proper access to OSX underlying systems. Either ... : retarded talking dinosaur
            • And Adobe would care if the market share that OSX holds didn't look like this: http://marketshare.hits : MisterPhoton
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          Adobe claims this is because Apple will not allow them proper API access to the hardware, which is why fl... : retarded talking dinosaur
          • And honestly, given all the retarded shit Apple is doing here, I'm inclined to believe adobe here. : retarded talking dinosaur
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            They could write that shit for OpenCL? : Toraz Chryx
            • I'm inclined to also believe that Adobe is a bunch of lazy fucks. I kind of hate both companies. Just loo... : retarded talking dinosaur
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  This is massively retarded. They are forcing app devs to 4 languages only - "Applications must be o... : quix
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    What happened to letting things win on technical merit?" This is Jobs we are talking about. His will... : Visceral Monkey
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      This is why God gave him cancer. : Godhatesfatpeople
      • Strike him down, he shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine :( : TheQuad
      • Haha so wriong : sikander
      • smoted. : moe6
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    It really has nothing to do with HTML5. It probably has a lot to do with getting developers able to write... : BlackCat9
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      'the dual benefit'? no the sole benefit is lock in and making ports elsewhere harder. The language people... : derelict515
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        Are you kidding? In some abstract fuddy duddy way, you're right. Generally I prefer to consider the wor... : vigilante
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          So only after 4 years did they realize that these were issues? All the games they approved that were writ... : derelict515
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            And to take a step back from the technical details, apple has a whole review process so if the quality of... : qwpeoriu
            • Oops, I think I chopped off the first part of my post. Anyway, I'm saying I agree with your technical rea... : qwpeoriu
      • I didn't say anything about quality. I stated your point and said that in addition to less cross-platform... : BlackCat9
  • Can you write assembly language code on this platform? : Maddog_Delphi97
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  my hatred for adobe is pretty big. : proclone1
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    Mine for Apple is bigger. : Godhatesfatpeople
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      What about fat people? : BlackCat9
      • That's God's job. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  I really hope this is a misinterpretation of the license, because as it is it seems like it would forbid ... : SiW.
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    Pihonegap says they're not worried about this : sikander
    • * phonegap : sikander
    • Yeah, but Phonegap apps are running Webkit-driven Javascript within an Obj-C-written app, unlike Unity ap... : SiW.
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    seems pretty cut and dry unfortunately : derelict515
    • I'm going through the long thread on the Unity forums about this, maybe somewhere a dev has chimed in. : SiW.
  • they will reword it until it singles out flash cs5 : Chandler55
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  no they force people to jailbreak and bootleg apps instead of pay for them. Adobe knows what they are doi... : supermonkeyballz
  • i'm actually planning on doing this soon just so i can get a terminal =) : the city
• wow. you have got to be kidding me. : MikkleThePickle
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  Jobs will be known as the man who killed Flash. A true hero. : herradura99
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    And replaced it with proprietary iPhone APIs? Yeah, true hero... : uncleanmonkey
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      html5 isn't a proprietary iphone api : Toraz Chryx
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        Nor is it a viable competitor for Flash. : uncleanmonkey
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          Didn't see the HTML5 port of Quake 2 then? : Toraz Chryx
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            Didn't see the existence of the appstore, silverlight and now the inclusion of flash into chrome then? Al... : uncleanmonkey
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              Flash is currently used for stuff that is so common-place it ought to be done by the browser (eg. video p... : jcupitt
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                I have a hard time seeing javascript/HTML being multicore-enabled anytime soon, for example. Flash/Silver... : uncleanmonkey
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                  Yes, threaded JS is a probably a way off :-( But all the rendering side can be (and is already, on some p... : jcupitt
                  • Oh actually: http://nerget.com/rayjs-mt/rayjs.html https://developer.mozilla.org/En/Using_web_workers... : jcupitt
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              There is such a tangible disconnect between "not a viable competitor" and "competitors exist that do simi... : Toraz Chryx
              • You know, your posts are still around, it's not like you can pretend you didn't say what you said. Yo... : uncleanmonkey
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  I've been saying all along when people would say "omg flash consumes too much CPU" that it isn't about th... : steelsamurai
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    I keep thinking Adobe anted a grip from Apple to include flash on the iPhone. So in a reaction similar to... : Phreakin
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      I have trouble seeing past Apple winning this fight. 85 million devices and 65% of the mobile browser mar... : peanut-
      • Lots of mass-market websites already have mobile versions that just kill all the "richness". They could j... : uncleanmonkey
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  In retaliation, Adobe should cease developing Photoshop for Mac. Wait no they shouldnt : ventro
  • They should bundle the next version with a Windows 7 copy. : guigr
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  Adobe CS6 now only available on PC. : Crimsonbeak
  • Or at least "Runs best on windows" splash screen. Like the Nvidia "The way it's meant to be played" thing... : uncleanmonkey
  • That would be the best retaliation. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  • That wouldn't surprise me in the least. Along with Apples records of closing off just about everything so... : Godhatesfatpeople

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• Clearly you need to give your account away. To me. : Felraiser
• I play co-op vs the AI :D :D :D : Downforce
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  I remember it was the same even back in SC1. If I didn't play for 3 hours a day minimum, my rank would s... : barcibus
  • that's what sucks, you haven't had any combat and you are already losing. not fun to me :( : Downforce
• you cant just jump in and win. youre gonna lose alot. but u get better. : chilln
• you played 1 game and gave up? : Demius
• well then, join us in theory-crafting and watching replays. Actual playing the game is overrated. : TPSReport
• Keep at it gets better. But this games is extremely intimidating at first. Play your qualifications and... : SqueegyTBS
• the true mark of a champion, losing twice and quitting forever : veras
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  jesus. 2 games and you quit because you "can't keep up" this is getting ridiculous : mwasher
  • it's probably folks sandbagging anyway : Downforce
  • somebody killed me in CS today so i altf4d and uninstalled because i cant keep up anymore : veras
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    Holy crap people. It was mostly a joke. I will play again, but I do have limited time and don't intend on... : boarder2
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      we can do co-op against the AI :D adversarial RTS is just not high on my skill set! : Downforce
      • Maybe I'll give it a shot tonight again after the wife falls asleep. If not tonight definitely tomorrow. ... : boarder2
      • Did they unlock decent ai with the last patch and nobody noticed? : Reptile
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      well my reaction was guaged based upon the many posts that have been made like this were people get immed... : mwasher
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        Well it does kinda seem that way when you jump tight into it and get your face pwned in the starting area... : boarder2
        • that is what the single player + the tutorial/challenges will be for in the game. so yes, I will grant... : mwasher
        • look at how many SC2 youtube threads there are. People who didn't have keys were anxiously awaiting it an... : derelict515
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          there is a strong possibility that you suck : aeg1x
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            You clearly didn't see the part where I said I couldn't keep up. I freely admit that I'm probably not goo... : boarder2
            • haha you suck : aeg1x
        • There is no noob area. The placement matches will probably place you against mediocre players once or twi... : Reeves
• Play your placement matches and it'll toss you near players of your skill level. The matchmaking system ... : Senate5000
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  Did you play all the tutorial games? If this ranking thing will work at all post launch I will be perf... : dael
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    I didn't see any tutorial games and I kind of looked. Admittedly not very hard, playing multiplayer must ... : boarder2
    • there are no real "tutorial" games. just 5 games that they make call tutorial which don't happen to aff... : mwasher
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  sc2? askedrelic.shack : askedrelic
  • add maulla.maulla : maulla
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    all you ever do is jump on, call me a faggot, and then go offline! : mwasher
    • gg : askedrelic
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      Yeah, least he could do is play a game and then call you a fag : Reptile
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        that's all I'm trying to say! : mwasher
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          i just messaged you. play?? : askedrelic
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            i am not home : mwasher
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              you have some messages waiting for you when you get home : askedrelic
              • on my way, can't wait : mwasher
  • still playing!! : askedrelic
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  Lulz let's play : multisync
  • getz only! : askedrelic
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  the final game will come with a tutorial and single-player to get noobs acquainted. : lord_omega
  • If i remember correctly they have mini challenges to complete as well that teach you stratagems. : Klebold
• day 9 daily live: http://www.livestream.com/striderdoom : valael
• Screw the kids, this is still your planet! Take it from their hands and kick them down! Metaphorically ... : HL3dsx
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  So how do you get in the Beta now if you still don't have an invite? : Matto357
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    answer me shack!!! : Matto357
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      YOU DON'T : StolenNosferatu
      • or you camp facebook for those keys they're giving away. : StolenNosferatu
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      Friend key, I got mine from a friend key but I haven't received any friend keys yet :( : shortbuscaptain
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        Will you be my friend? : Matto357
        • make him a steak. : StolenNosferatu
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  Streaming 1v1 tonight. http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=Chill : Blucklesworth
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    no 2v2? you guys were like 100 pts from #1! : StolenNosferatu
    • He switched to 2v2 now. : StolenNosferatu
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    you really like calling people "cute" don't you : lord_omega
    • lol not sure why this is an issue for you : Blucklesworth
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  I'm just gonna leave this here: http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a360/elmizzt/mothership.gif : deveus1
  • lol that was a funny game. : StolenNosferatu
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    yeah, i actually watched that replay not too long ago. I guess they completely changed the mothership's ... : valael
    • they took away a lot of it's abilities. : StolenNosferatu
    • Motherships are expensive, glorified arbiters now : Serpico74
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  Cool I however have no beta key and this guy quits after 2 games awesome. : hirosushima
  • Omg how will you ever live? Lifes not fair! I'm such an asshole! Your life is so hard, nothing ever goes ... : boarder2
• US Username List: abrasion.abrasion Agrona.retro Asylumn.myname blueclaw.crust Brosu.shack Butch.fi : GoldfishInAJarOfPickles
• someone 1v1 me. JIKYN.starcraft : JINKY
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  I am on a 5 win 1v1 streak tonight with toss ! I am getting the hang of it : askedrelic
  • that's about all you are tonight lololololololllllllllllll : mwasher
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  How do I deal with reaper harass as Terran? So owned :( mauraders with the slow would seem useful if stat... : derelict515
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    a group of marines should dispatch a group of reapers fairly easily. been a long time since i've seen su... : mwasher
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      hm, I don't think he could've had the speed upgrade that early but I didn't find this to be the case. The... : derelict515
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        reapers cost 50 minerals and 50 gas, plus you need tech labs on your barracks, and you have to pay for th... : Jackass1233
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          ^^ this. thanks for expounding on my points : mwasher
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            (is expounding a word?) : mwasher
            • its like expanding, but with a penis. : radula
        • You'll have a few more marines than reapers but you won't have triple the number. Even double the number ... : razlebol
  • you scout it coming : rbjester
• Just keep playing. I've lost horribly, but just be persistent about it, and learn from your mistakes. wa... : choppp

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• Well, it has been a while since I've got a virus ad. : pyrogen
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  1. Somewhat random background ads 2. Pre-roll ads on shackvideo 3. ??? : sanchez
  • 4. PROFIT! : Demius
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    Auto Opt in Emails : stonedonkey
    • Because emails are the bane of human existence. Forget the ebola virus, emails will instantly kill any h... : IndigoAK
  • spyware : Flynn
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  It could just be me noticing them more, but it seems like a lot more of the front page articles have shif... : theangrywaffles
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    casual games have gotten pretty damn awesome in recent years, though. I mean, Doodle Jump is just the fuc... : roushimsx
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      I just want to stab myself in the face when I read about Facebook games for some reason :( : theangrywaffles
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        I never really tried any Facebook games. What's so special about them? I keep seeing people trying to ama... : roushimsx
        • Yeah Bejeweled Blitz is really fun, though I play it on the iPhone mostly. : SatansFist
        • There were a few stupid, but entertaining, games when they were first introduced. Now everything is a clo... : theangrywaffles
  • Casual games have become a much larger part of the industry. : Vincent Grayson
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  That's next week! : Dave-A
  • on Valve Time : trOmblyj
  • but you got made a mod a while ago : CoRDS
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  Good job, you just REMINDED them : phate81
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    Oh shit! Everyone back to Bluesnews! : melkore
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      Blue still wins for bulk news. : capt tripps
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        I used to go to bluesnews and then one day I realized I didn't give a fuck about all these low quality mo... : Geoffrois
        • Is Blue still the one behind it all? : givemesnacks
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  I remember watching the reaction when I was just a lurker. People were saying goodbye to each other like ... : nbft
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    That was the only time you thought that? Really? : Dave-A
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      Yes, primarily because I lurk on many internet forums and most of the things I've seen on the shack are n... : nbft
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        I tend to see shackers as anxious medieval folk and the witchfinder general is coming to town. there's an... : Dave-A
        • I'll take your word for it, I'm still getting adjusted to these parts! : nbft
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          you're such a codgy old bint : felicia
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            I'm not saying this out of bitterness, thou rank briney strumpet! I am endlessly fascinated by it. : Dave-A
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              Dave-A, have you had spotted dick? : felicia
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                Only in my alternate reality existence as Michael Jackson's boytoy a British boarding-school student! : Dave-A
                • I was all ready to say that I spotted some dick for you, too. :( : felicia
        • I like to think of shackersalike a shapeshifter, or changeling, like that guy--You ever see that TV show ... : chilln
        • We spell magicks with a k! : pixelat3d
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        Arstechnica? : phil_mckraken
        • yeah, the Ars forums had a collective freakout after the Conde Nast buyout...Gamefly is small fry next to... : CecilPhilpot
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      remember when the shack had the bright idea to ban E/N threads? : GloriousCow
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        What is E/N? : CRasterImage
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          Offtopic posts. "Everything/Nothing". : Dave-A
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            I don't think that I have ever posted in a "on topic" thread =( : spiffymc
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              those were dark times :( : GloriousCow
              • Without offtopic / stupid threads as a outlet for my stupidity, I shudder to think of where I would be to... : spiffymc
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            What would be offtopic in "Morning Discussion" or "Evening Reading"? : CRasterImage
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              You're posing in one right now. : spiffymc
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                Ok, let me rephrase that. What would be considered "on topic". Latestchatty is not a front page chatty.... : CRasterImage
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                  afaik on topic is anything related to video games or the video game industry. : spiffymc
                  • Ya, I suppose. But I don't remember the Shack ever doing that. I have been here since before the grea... : CRasterImage
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              yeah I always thought the off topic tag was weird. it doesn't really feel like the chatty has any specif... : valael
              • That would be video games, bub! : Dave-A
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        Remember when Greg competed to be on the first-string football team, but wanted to keep playing after a m... : dognose
        • That episode confused me: if Greg developed the photo days later showing the football player's foot was o... : Bold
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        Sweet merciful christ I still want to know whose idea that was so I can kick them in the throat. : weaselmeister
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          Remember the great Crouton Scandal? : GloriousCow
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            I remember the word crouton being nuked, I also remember pictures of flowers being nuked. : dognose
            • Ya, you mods are a weird lot. : CRasterImage
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              Many Shubs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of a Sloar that day, I can tell you! : GloriousCow
              • I didn't know what you were talking about so I googled "shubs and zuuls" and I came across some Ghostbus... : spiffymc
              • YOU WILL PERISH IN FLAMES : Halen
        • That was actually a fantastic move. That's what shifted the moderators over to having primary direction o... : geedeck
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    You afraid of hugs? : Lightzout
    • Column A : dafugg
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    You afraid of hugs? : Lightzout
    • Column B : dafugg
• Ruin more? : rosewood
• Well if it does happen it's going to be a slow death by neglect rather than anything that could happen ov... : ventro
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  You mean before the virus-ads? : re-verse
  • and the aids! : CRasterImage
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  Retarded notion. Shack is pretty cheap to have around for gamefly's purposes. Fileshack is a different st... : haiku
  • Maybe Gamefly is the Swedish Mafia and they are using the Shack to launder their money? : CRasterImage
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  Remember when the Shack had a reliable search function? Or, was that just a dream? : yourGarbageMan
  • Oh yeah, that was never an issue before. : Dave-A
• You know that scene in fight club when they take the police commissioner into the bathroom? Quakecon. : DarkWolf5
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  Remember that one time something changed on the shack and everyone thought the sky was falling? : filtersweep
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    I ruined the shack and destroyed the community on 4 or 5 occasions : haiku
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      Yeah, but that's why we love you. : ColoradoCNC
      • i love him for his abs : GloriousCow
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      you're the zuul of shacknews : ninjase
      • oh wait im thinking of gozer : ninjase
    • Always for the better, though. : Portax
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  Hey guys remember when Late Night Consoling was gonna ruin the Shack?... : slax0r
  • Oh man the uproar was classic! :) I miss those days. :( : pap26
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  Brian Leahy updates the shack more than shaq updates his twitter : kaddar0
  • Shaqnews.com : Brian Leahy
• They did. For me at least. Now I only view the chatty through stone donkey's app. : deathofrats
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  Remember when AIDS was going to kill Magic Johnson? : pigvomit
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    Ya wtf? Was it all just a sham? Somewhat serious and somewhat joking post : Phreakin
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      When you're rich you can live with Aids. A friend of mine works for one of the bigger Aids medication com... : Godhatesfatpeople
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        And there's why we need medical reform :) : Phreakin
        • Indeed. : Godhatesfatpeople
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          So that research on that kind of medicine is thwarted? : melt_core
          • Yes, because selling this stuff in huge piles to governments will never be profitable. : master_disaster_17
          • It might as well be if no one can afford it after the research is done. : ease one
    • modern antiviral regimens can actually put HIV into a dormant state where your viral load might actually ... : GloriousCow
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  Chrome asking if i really want to leave this page, when i exit the homepage. Cause it might have harmful ... : [7]kami
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    do what now? what is the message you get? : GloriousCow
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      It's just a part of the shackscripts. : daedraug
      • Thats what I was guessing. Update your shit kami, that was fixed a long time ago : GloriousCow

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  Wow, i never knew about that bizarre Sonic Extreme game. That;s all kinds of weird. Music is pretty cool ... : Creepin_Jeezus
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    I'd love to see another stab at doing Sonic X-Treme but with a system capable of handling a real draw dis... : roushimsx
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      I had never even heard of Black Knight before! What the hell is it? It looks awesome, lol. : Creepin_Jeezus
      • Wii game. : SiW.
  • Yep. Basically it's my DNF. Fuck I wanted that game to come out so bad. : dmason
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  Btw, I have seen Sonic 4 in full motion gameplay, specificaly levels 1, 2 and 3 in full motion the game i... : valcan_s
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    if its the vids i saw.. i Do not like the animation of his legs at full speed. he looks like he is skippi... : ssj4megaman
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      thanks for making the article's point :D : RikiTiki2
      • what the FUCK did they do to the colour of his eyes?!11 : crummynz
    • lololol : manero
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  I thought they were talking about fast food : rosewood
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    Their fans are pretty ungrateful, too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVI6Agm1-kY : BlackCat9
    • hahah even as a weezer fan (and i do like some of their recent stuff) that last bit was hilarious. : jamesray
• thought this was about the former seattle sonics. : bosst0ne
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  Oh man, I read that entire thing... But it was a good article. It is a little sad how rabid the Sonic fan... : Goblin au
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    I was waging a different kind of war when Sonic was in his prime. The war of SEGA VS NINTENDO! Herp derp!... : Entity
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      I wasn't a big fan of the master system but the Genesis was pretty awesome. : Haku-Jin
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        I think this is my reason for loving Sonic so much. It was the only game for a long time that put the pow... : Goblin au
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          qBLAST PROCESSING]q : CoRDS
          • how the fuck did i stuff that up : CoRDS
    • I was the opposite. SEGA for life, yo! : Goblin au
    • You chose the correct side. : Serpico74
    • The original Sonic(s) were the only decent ones. : anhero
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    I'm not much of a Sonic fan, but I looooooved Sonic Adventure at the time. I keep hoping Sega would rerel... : roushimsx
    • I still have my MegaDrive(Genesis) and Sonic 1, 2, 3 & Knuckles. I actually never got into the later ga... : Goblin au
• What an awesome read; thanks for pointing it out : Entity
• naked sally was hot : GloriousCow
• I need to get some MiSTings back up of bad sonic lit. There was a really really bad Mary Sue one... : Masem
• man that 3d one makes me dizzy. Would be cool if the levels were a bit wider. : packav
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  The article is right about the portable ones being awesome, but everyone seems to forget about them when ... : Darky_06
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    I only played a couple of the portable ones (Advance 2 and Rush I think), but I didn't really like them. ... : Sacred Sperm
    • Poor apostrophe use, doofus >:( : Sacred Sperm
• i never cared for how floaty his jumping was. and how you had to rev up to get up hills. but i enjoyed th... : packav
• Jesus Christ : ninjase
• i had no idea that such a thing as a Sonic fandom even existed. : vitek r
• Sonic was such a douche character. I never could relate with those sega kids back in the SNES glory days.... : reelbk
• While every developers dreams of an ip this popular... these people are scary. : PixelPie
• (insert Ryan Davis's Sonic 4 rant from the Bombcast here) : the archvile
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  the portable versions really weren't that great. they were better than any of the other shit that had co... : mikecyb
  • Ugh, all those bottomless pits in Rush really gave me the shits. : Sacred Sperm
• This is like a trip down memory lane for me... OGC : Amnesty_intl2
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  Article needs more Sonichu : mem
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    Weston Chandler? : MamiyaOtaru
    • yeth http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/a/ac/I_Am_Not_IAN_BRANDON_SOMETHING.gif : anhero
• why is there no chapter 4? : DeBurgo
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  Holy shit, I used to watch this Sonic cartoon! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6B4BS9TmHE&feature=related : retarded talking dinosaur
  • holy fucking shit, as soon as i started watching this i had a flood of memories and i think i remember th... : retarded talking dinosaur
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  Wow, wicked article. But what about the sonic game on the Neo Geo Pocket Colour? it was absolutely ... : -=kodiak=-
  • It was a great game, but in a lot of ways it was a mash-up port of the first two games with some tweaks. ... : Conan
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  Sonic fans are all furries. Of course they're the worst fandom in existence. : herradura99
  • That's not the determining factor; star fox fans are even moreso, but they're not nearly as hard to pleas... : Conan
  • Sonic fan shit can scare even furries. One of the first big furry web art sites, Yerf.com (now defunct), ... : GloriousCow
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  "[Sonic 2006] sent shockwaves through the industry and developers almost never rush their titles for Chri : Omaha
  • Agreed. I thought it was poorly written. He mentions the fandom "cracking" like 15 times without ever act... : basketofkittens