Morning Discussion

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• Obi Wan couldn't kill his friend. Plus he was pissed as hell at the guy for destroying everything? : Fyunch Click
• Yes, Star Wars fans would have all simultaneously suffered massive strokes due to the continuity problems... : Captain Loco
• wha? he had just slaughtered a whole bunch of kids, helped the emperor kill Mace Windu etc. I'd have left... : cptstern
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  Sooooooooo....anybody want to buy some Death-sticks? : Dave-A
  • Nah, I'm here at home, rethinking my life. Thanks, though. : Empyric
  • So many things are just lame in these movies :( : focusdaily
  • Those sound incredibly exciting and fun! : silent prophet
  • Great marketing, that. : CRasterImage
  • how did he get out of the matrix? : CoRDS
  • The digital pimp, hard at work. : Rooster Cockburn
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  No, it's just bad writing. The new trilogy was a horrible missed opportunity. Anakin's fall to th... : kek
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    I'm actually enjoying the cartoon network Clone Wars cartoon a lot more than the movies. You can see subt... : Duffman8369
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      ya but they play him off as being to much the good guy. kinda makes his complete about face hard to belie... : cptstern
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        I don't know how many seasons they plan on doing but maybe they'll have time for a gradual turn? : Duffman8369
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          Also since Ahsoka isn't in the 3rd movie we can assume something happens to her that could really affect ... : Duffman8369
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            I think this is off canon and dont think they'll wrap it up with a finale that leads to the 3rd movie. ah... : cptstern
            • Heh... we can't make your son sad now can we? :) : bakanoodle
    • Anakin killing the Mandolorian that Obi-wan and his lady friend hesitated to is a great example. Anakin.. : MoreVespeneGas
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    The new trilogy should also have been entirely the clone wars, the first 1.5 movies should have been summ... : Begawkiness
    • dividing a major character among two (terrible) actors was totally disastrous. : dirge23
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    Compare it to Michael's fall in The Godfather. That is how you show someone changing. : chrisschutz
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      Yeah, that is pretty much the textbook example. Though did anyone really expect The GodFather out of Luca... : Arctic Fox
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        maybe not the greatest, but luke and han have genuine character arcs. nobody in the new movies has one th... : dirge23
        • That's probably because Lucas didn't do all the writing for Empire and Jedi, IIRC. : Arctic Fox
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      I think you misspelled Walt in Breaking Bad. : Zek
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        breaking bad is great and all but the three-hour storytelling of the godfather is much more impressive th... : dirge23
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          The three-hour storytelling of The Godfather is great and all, but the book is much more impressive than ... : Rooster Cockburn
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            pfft, anybody can write a novel : dirge23
            • Faster Than the Speed of Love by dirge23, a novel about a son who gathers a group of his POW father's for... : Rooster Cockburn
  • From my point of view, the Jedi are evil! - a screenwriting god : eldersveld
  • We should just be grateful that Obi-Wan didn't drop an anvil on Anakin's head in the final battle. : silent prophet
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    In the Star Wars lore falling to the dark side actually can happen fairly quickly. The power is highly ad... : Evil Benius
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      the problem for me was that he's an angry, arrogant, impatient douche from the beginning, and we know whe... : dirge23
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        Yeah the problem with the prequels is we know everything that is going to happen so it really fucks with ... : Evil Benius
        • the best thing about the prequels for me is that it changes the implication of why Vader is hunting Luke ... : dirge23
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          I think most people would disagree and say that the ideal first viewing is 4, 5, 6, with subsequent viewi... : Rooster Cockburn
          • I disagree and think the prequels add a lot. The prequels might be flawed, but the originals were too and... : Evil Benius
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        Agreed, if the movies made you empathize with Anakin and want the best outcome for the character even tho... : SnakeIRye
        • yes, or alternately the focus could have been on obi-wan's tragic attempt to save him. : dirge23
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      the one thing that i did like is that he really did bring Balance to the force. before anakin turned ... : CoRDS
      • i always found it pretty implausible that the great and wise jedi council were so enthusiastic about that... : dirge23
      • But as so much non-film Star Wars canon has made clear, there were far more Jedi and Sith out there than ... : Rooster Cockburn
      • I think it's been confirmed that "bringing balance to the force" was killing Palpatine at the end of RotJ... : walker270
    • Anakin needed to be cut off from the Jedi counsel sometime near the end of episode 2/beginning of episode... : one random winner
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      Maybe some examples of Anakin Skywalker being "the good man," he once was when Obi Wan was talking about ... : nbft
      • I think this is something they are correcting with The Clone Wars. : Evil Benius
• Because it's a terrible movie. : eskimo spy
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  http://www.the-editing-room.com/revengeofthesith.html : Arctic Fox
  • I'm really enjoying this. : katchow
  • HAHAHA HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN runs up to SAMUEL L. MOTHERFUCKING JACKSON HAYDEN CHRISTENSEN: Samuel, I ... : skelom
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    that was great, I'm never going to watch the third movie (I was forced to watch the 2nd and it was terrib... : headbone
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      The third is the best of the three prequels. I understand that that isn't setting a high bar or anything ... : Arctic Fox
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        Not for the acting or the plot though, it's all about the lightsaber fights. : one random winner
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          If we're talking lightsaber fights the stuff at the end of Episode 1 is definitely the best. Ray Park, aw... : Arctic Fox
          • I think the 3rd had way more going for it than the 1st or 2nd, in terms of battles. The scenes with Gener... : focusdaily
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            Agreed about the best LS fight in all 3, but it was too short and near the end. Overall the fight scenes... : one random winner
            • See, I thought the battles between Count Dooku and Anakin/Obi-Wan/Yoda from episode 2 were among the best... : Rooster Cockburn
  • http://www.geekson.com/audio/Star_Wars_Ep_3.mp3 : Rice-Rocketeer
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  Would the new trilogy have been better as Old Republic? With HK-47 instead of Jar-Jar? : Marrbe
  • HK-47 is his own mother fucking movie series. : Downforce
  • Anything would have been better than jar jar, I wouldn't had minded an ewok. :P : DM7
  • I still think KoTOR would be a great trilogy to make. : breadsticks
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    i can't be alone in thinking that KOTOR had a better story and writing than any of the new movies : EvilDolemite
    • It's actually a pretty common opinion. : one random winner
• Because he believed he was the chosen one? : get_navi
• Bioware wrote a better story in Kotor than those 3 movies combined. : Godhatesfatpeople
• I don't think lightside jedis can do "mercy killings" : grandmasterlee
• yes, the lore states that george lucas could not come up with a reason, and dead ended himself into this ... : returnofthepanda
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  because otherwise the world wouldn't have this http://www.nooooooooooooooo.com/ : skelom
  • PROTIP: if you click the button several times really fast your head will explode : skelom
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  i just hope that at some point in the future someone decided that those 3 movies dont exist and they make... : CoRDS
  • I really hope that never happens. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Jedi try to avoid killing people whenever they can and Kenobi pretty much left Anakin's fate up to the fo... : Evil Benius
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    Don't make excuses for the plot holes. : CRasterImage
    • Plot holes are not elements of the plot you dislike. Not a plot hole in the slightest. : Modica Sol Solis
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      I am not making excuses at all. : Evil Benius
      • I was just joshing you. : CRasterImage
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  I'VE GOT THE HIGH GROUND, YOU CAN'T WIN! Fuck off. : Klebold
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    nobody ever won a war going uphill : dirge23
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXhKzY0BKwY : Godhatesfatpeople
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      Battle of Hastings! : Klebold
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        actually i was kidding but then i realized it's kind of hard to think of examples of people who won going... : dirge23
        • I know you were joking but i wanted to show off my knowledge of history nonetheless. : Klebold
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    I was curious why he didn't just ride that fucking robot about 5ft farther, jump on the hill next to him,... : clain
    • Or even be completely mad, and ram it into him. : Klebold
    • Or jump and force push at the same time. : Rooster Cockburn
• liking the prequels is the equivalent to wearing a comb-over. it requires the same amount of denial : GloriousCow
• would have made episode 4 much more interesting! : harold.johnson
• I too always wondered as to why Kenobi stood there and watched Anakin slowly, slowly, very slowly, burn f... : DaestroXII

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  huh? I thought you just visited a site and played from there. you need hardware to access the service? : cptstern
  • to use it on a TV there's HW. : thebigbeefsandwich
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    the micro console lets you play it on your tv. : scottythejock
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      is there a rental fee? : cptstern
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        Hey I heard you like rentals so we added a rental fee onto the games you bought and also a rental fee ont... : Beady
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          so you have to purchase the console? or you could just rent it like you would a cable box for x amount of... : cptstern
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            I think the console is free as long as you have service : aggressor
            • i would hope so : chrisschutz
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    If you don't have a computer, yes. : spazzium
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      Actually you still have to have a computer to use the micro console. The PC streams it to the device (not... : Schnapple
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        That doesn't make any sense at all. Pretty sure it's a complete standalone device. : aggressor
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          but how do you connect to the service if not through the interwebs? : cptstern
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            Pretty sure it either has Wifi or at the very least, an ethernet jack. : aggressor
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              Not WiFi. Too slow for this. Ethernet port. : Damodred
              • 1.5Mbps\5Mbps is not too much for wifi to handle, but they are probably more worried about consistency. : aggressor
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              ...but you'd still need an internet connection : cptstern
              • I'm not sure I'm following your logic. You don't need a PC or laptop for an internet connection. You w... : aggressor
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                Which has absolutely nothing to do with a computer. : spazzium
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                  Just out of curiosity, how many people who don't own a computer have internet access? Also what the fuck : AgentPothead
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                    If my PC broke tomorrow I could still use my iPhone, DS, PSP, Ps3, Xbox, 360, popcorn hour and PS2 to acc... : marmite
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                      Yeah I'm betting the number isn't very high, heck I'm betting it's less than 10. : AgentPothead
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                        It's for people who want to play pc games on their TV but don't have the PC to run it or don't have the k... : aggressor
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                          If I had to guess I'd say the people with that desire already bought an xbox 360. : AgentPothead
                          • Except the 360 can't play PC exclusive games. Good thing business models aren't based on guessing! : aggressor
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                    my grandmother had that ms box on her tv till recently. And she had dsl. : JuffoWup
                    • I'm not sure that's the market OnLive was shooting for. : AgentPothead
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                    i'd be curious to see if anyone tries making iPad + OnLive with no computer work. in theory, i guess it ... : electroly
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                      the iPad functions kinda like an ipod touch in that regard (eg, it expects to be synced with itunes) : Toraz Chryx
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                        you don't HAVE to, though. you could get your software updates done at the store and buy your music dire... : electroly
                        • Problem is, when it upgrades it wipes the device to do it. Your applications are loaded on from the back... : spazzium
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                    which is kind of my point. having a router for internet access without a pc is beyond the grasp of most p... : cptstern
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                      Yeah that's what I'm saying. Anybody with the technological know how and desire for broadband internet pr : AgentPothead
                      • i'm gonna bring back dial-up BBS door games and call it "OnLive Lite" : electroly
                      • like my computer less 70 year old parents : cptstern
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        You are wrong, I am sure. : scottythejock
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          http://www.onlive.com/service.html : scottythejock
          • Also - http://www.onlive.com/service/microconsole.html & http://www.onlive.com/service/faq.html What d : scottythejock
        • An earlier version of a Shack story said you needed a PC. I'm looking back and now it says you don't so e... : Schnapple
      • That's not true. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnLive#cite_note-ign-intro-1 : spazzium
  • where would you plug the controller? : umegastar
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  What kind of controller does it uses? : Geoffrois
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    http://images.trustedreviews.com/images/article/inline/10408-onlivespan1.jpg : MagicWishMonkey
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      haha really, LIVE on the face buttons? : Yanks
      • haha, yea thought that was goofy too : MagicWishMonkey
      • Wow. That's just retarded. : ShadowRam
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        Nope. EVIL. : Deathlove
        • hahaha : MagicWishMonkey
        • also VILE. this is really unfortunate. : dirge23
        • ROFLMAO : memine
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      is that the console? if so it's really small : cptstern
      • I have no idea, I haven't seen one : MagicWishMonkey
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        It's just a network card, usb port and a video decompressor chip. Not much room needed. : Damodred
        • yup, and the plastic housing is more expensive than the board and parts inside. : JuffoWup
      • you might even call it...micro : .frame
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      Doesn't look very comfortable. : Empyric
      • The controller, that is. I'm sure the micro-console is very comfortable. : Empyric
      • agreed, looks like an ergonomic disaster : dirge23
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      That looks pretty cool. : virus
      • It looks like the 360 and PS3 controllers mated and had babies. : MagicWishMonkey
  • You can use any controller you want - mice, any gamepad, joysticks, etc. It has USB ports, so it can acc... : Matt Burris
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  If you have either a modern console or PC, you have no reason to be jealous. : Damodred
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    I have a ps3, 360, and a very new PC and I still want to try this out. : aggressor
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      Mmm, watch some low-def gametrailers footage of a game and imagine always playing it with 150ms input lag... : Damodred
      • I'd rather base my opinions on hands-on experience, not a shitty emulation of it. : aggressor
  • I have all of the consoles, I am jealous more out of curiosity than anything else. : MagicWishMonkey
  • nerdery : umegastar
• Yeah, mine should arrive this week. Should be interesting. : Visceral Monkey
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  Wait a second. Did their pricing model change? Last I knew, you had to pay $15 a month just to gain acces... : Home Nugget
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    What? He's part of the beta, they are shipping him a unit to test out for 5 weeks and he doesn't have ... : MagicWishMonkey
    • Sorry I guess I should have been more explicit in my OP : MagicWishMonkey
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    hurf durf. He just wants to see it, it's in beta right now so it's not like he'd be paying $15, and there... : derelict515
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      Hurf durf? : CrustaR
      • http://up-ship.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/derp-derp-derp-dog.jpeg : TheMonkeyWench
  • Oh, I didn't know they were still in beta, my bad (but the pricing model still sucks) : Home Nugget
  • beta. but they've also announced a free version of Onlive to come out a few months after the subscription... : cptstern
• I'll be curious how well it works, if you try it out let us know! : Begawkiness
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  Great idea, terrible subscription model. It's almost like having to pay monthly for Steam, which would b... : jingletard
  • almost like that, except for the entire concept of the service being different. : derelict515
  • well no, it's like renting a computer+steam, because they've got to have HW to do this for you. and of co... : thebigbeefsandwich

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  Oblivion is set among the ruins of earlier greater civilizations just as much as Fallout, really : dirge23
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    even LOTR is pretty much set in a "dark age" after the fall of Numenor and the long decline of the Elves : dirge23
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      true, but Tolkien described the entire history of civilization in copious detail : Goncyn
      • you guys are hardcore nerds wow : joemad
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  I don't see System Shock 2 in that list, it has a working world, you just end up on a fucked up spaceship... : razorblade79
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    The Von Braun and the Rickenbacker are falling apart in System Shock 2 and in the course of your journey ... : Ryu Connor
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      yeah but only if you use "world" for the two ships and not the whole fictional universe. which you can se... : razorblade79
      • I looked at it from the perspective of where the conflict takes place, but you are right. The System Sho... : Ryu Connor
• Mass Effect 2 sorta? : jane911
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  Ultima VII was for a long time the gold standard for worlds that really felt alive. it's somewhat obsolet... : dirge23
  • such a great game : razorblade79
  • Thank you for reminding me to replay this. : The Grolar Bear
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    that was the last real Ultima =( : mrtony
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      it was the last one that actually got finished the way it should have. even serpent isle, which i like, f... : dirge23
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        yeah. Serpent Isle was good. for some reason the thing I remember about that game was when it was too ... : mrtony
        • i remember so many details. like filbercio the magelord had a secret love shack, and in the dresser he's ... : dirge23
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        btw remember the Juggernaut Hammer by any chance? that was one of my all time favorite weapons. also th... : mrtony
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          http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=22232673#itemanchor_22232673 : dirge23
          • haha... that's it! : mrtony
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    ^ ^ ^ This. In my opinion, U7's immersion has never been matched. Every NPC had a daily routine. The blac... : Loxodrome
    • they obviously had big plans for Oblivion that got cut. doing bread-baking animations, etc. for NPCs that... : dirge23
    • Yeah, that's the thing I always come back to about Ultima VII.. you could bake freaking bread... from scr... : Gwyndion
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  I have always wanted something along the lines of soylent green, a vastly overpopulated world coming to i... : shortbuscaptain
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    sounds like an MMO : dirge23
    • Sounds like a summoning necromancer before they turned off minion collision. : lolpatrol
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    A Blade Runner game would be pretty cool, or at least set in the Blade Runner universe : ruckboos
    • Syndicate felt like it was this without having the rights to the actual IP : dirge23
    • There was a Blade Runner game. I heard it was pretty great too. A mystery adventure game where you had to... : robosextoid
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  Syndimotherfuckingcate. : SiW.
  • eff yeah! : ass-street
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  I think Grand Theft Auto 4 did an incredible job creating a city 'simulation' that you can wander around ... : tomservo
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    all of the GTA games (at least since GTA3) fit this bill, but GTA4 does feel the most real of them all : dirge23
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      I want a GTA game where I can deplete the city of civil servants, or at least wreak so much Havoc that re... : dedgecko
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        i want to be able to reach a wanted level where they nuke the site from orbit, just to be sure : dirge23
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          I want to be able to reach a wanted level where they send in the Police Academy recruits. : SiW.
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            apparently there's a new Police Academy movie in development : dirge23
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              Hell, I'd settle for being able to open the doors on some of the buildings. : Thresher
              • All these car jackings in liberty city could be thwarted be the people locking their car doors when drivi... : DM7
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        http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=17579496#itemanchor_17579496 Persistent damage with civil servants... : focusdaily
        • Yep - I've been looking at the possibilities of that ever since I played the first GTA on PS1. Fire, M... : dedgecko
  • tomservo all the people who hate on that game are heathens, it was the bees knees and I <3'd it. I can't... : abrasion
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    Oh, definitely. What I'm after, though, is something where the game's designers really stretched their i : eldersveld
    • text games are really good at realizing other worlds, probably because you can do this more efficiently w... : dirge23
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  Hi-Jack What was the first game that you thought had a functioning enough AI world to be considered immer... : twifosp
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    Ultima V : dirge23
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      Hmm, immersive though? I don't think it was dynamic enough to be immersive. And that was still the days... : twifosp
      • in terms of AI, it had NPCs who wouldn't just stand around or attack but who would eat food and do errand... : dirge23
    • Absolutely. This was the very first time I saw NPC's who had specific schedules. They would be at their... : Gwyndion
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    Half-Life. Mostly because of the marines. For the time, their AI was so good that it heightened the sense... : tomservo
    • Oh! AI World In that case, Deus Ex. :D : tomservo
  • The Fable games did a pretty good job of this. : atom519
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    NONE. No game has reached that level yet. STALKER gets close at times (their AI members have factions, go... : LoioshDwaggie
    • neither do most of my friends : dirge23
  • Red Storm Rising on the C64. Man, I loved that game. There still hasn't been a sub game like it, after al... : dfay
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    Outcast - NPCs had jobs and schedules, and their own language which you could vaguely pick up after a few... : 60days
    • i need to find a copy of this :( : GloriousCow
    • God that game was so good. I never finished it, even though I raved about it endlessly. Now I can't brin... : Vantage
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  tron 2.0 was so fucking good. SO good. : Downforce
  • It's the most wonderfully alien-feeling game I've ever played, even if it did have the original film as a... : eldersveld
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    monolith needs to get their back catalogue on steam already. : pyide
    • truth beyond truth right there. : Downforce
  • It was, very much so. It makes me sad that it isn't considered canon. : TrptJim
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  I'd love to see someone try making Warren Spector's "one block RPG" http://archive.gamespy.com/legacy/int... : blender81
  • He is so dreamy <3 : tomservo
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  Assassins Creed games. Monkey Island games (and most adventure games). : exigence7
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    the monkey island games definitely never felt that way to me. everything just felt like a set for guybrus... : dirge23
    • It's more that the world is one that is fleshed out, so to speak. There's stores, alleys, people walking... : exigence7
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  You need to play Omikron. : Endymion_
  • Yeah, definitely. This game came to mind while I was reading his post. : DrWaffles
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  Thief is missing from your list, and I'd recommend it. It's not in a continuous open world as your others... : Conan
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    Thief II has the open world thing going on, right? : LoioshDwaggie
    • No, Deadly Shadows does to an extent, with missions being instanced and the city being an open hub betwee... : Conan
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  I really wish Bioshock (Rapture) had functioning parts of the world still working. Groups of non-crazy p... : JMro
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    even if we saw the day-to-day activity of the crazyass splicers aside from occasionally looting a corpse,... : dirge23
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      actually there is a fair amount of this stuff. : dirge23
      • But no one you can actually interact with, other than kill. : JMro
• Thief? : SigENeaT
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  RISEN (PC) + GOTHIC 1-3 : vx2o
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    Gothic series are crap though, don't play that =( : StriderNL
    • No-one in the world is more wrong than you. : vx2o
• I can't really answer as I much prefer the ruined wastelands settings over the type you prefer. My apolo... : wytefang
• Zelda: Majora's Mask. That is all. : pillzer
• Morrowind, Two Worlds, The Witcher, pretty much any good RPG =P : StriderNL
• It's not out yet, of course, but Just Cause 2 probably fits the bill of a "functioning alternate world." ... : lunarbunny

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  Crouching has the same spread as standing for all weapons except for LMGs in which hip spread barely impr : AgentPothead
  • So you can duck all the questions about not putting prone in. Sorry, I'll get my coat. : scanline
  • O_O??? : MercFox1
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    To make you a harder target for the sniper laser guns and LMG god weapons. : james_austintx
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      Pretty sure god is a sniper. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAf2qjrOGO0 : AgentPothead
      • lol, knew it Such a bad movie. : lodit
  • Still has to make you a smaller target. : SgtPepper78
  • Not balanced for crouch! Eh, so what, i still crouch because it looks cool and you're harder to hit. : Dschinghis Khan
  • Ducking behind cover primarily. You need it to traverse some terrain objects as well or to hop into wind... : Ryu Connor
  • That's disappointing, but crouching is still useful for cover obviously : Begawkiness
  • Make yourself smaller so you're not as easy to see / hit. : stelth
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    The game itself is awesome, things like this suck. I wish they went with 5 classes. A medic with an M60... : pigvomit
    • This is a war with Russia, rules of war don't apply. : DM7
    • Corpsmen carry an m16... so why not let them rock an MMG? We let ours jam out on the m240 : usmcmueller
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      Nah, your thinking of chaplains, and other non-combatants (like JO's). In the Navy, some of the best mar... : dnagenome
      • the chaplan scene in band of brothers was all sorts of awesome. : stgdz
    • I actually like that there isn't a huge number of classes in this and that it's streamlined down to only ... : Godhatesfatpeople
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      If they didn't have good weapons, nobody would play as medic. : snuff
      • yup. gameplay first, reality second. : yAak
  • that's really stupid, but crouch can keep you covered behind many barriers vs. bullets. : thebigbeefsandwich
  • For cover and hiding in brush for surprise attacks. Which works fucking wonders on many of the maps. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • To put your head at gun level... : dumb.
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  Taking a hit from a steep angle will multiply damage by 0.5x for tanks and 0.6x for the Bradley and BMD-3 : MagicWishMonkey
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    Nah check the line above it. To minimize damage to those weak sides, armored vehicles can angle themselve : AgentPothead
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      Ahh ok, makes sense. : MagicWishMonkey
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        Huh? So does that mean , shooting the rpg striaght up to tracer onto a tank actually causes less damage ... : dnagenome
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          If you hit the armored vehicle at an angle it does less damage. : MagicWishMonkey
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            ya but what angle? does 90 degrees (straight down) count as angled, or only like 5 to 85? : dnagenome
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              90 degrees would be what they call head on. Angled implies 0-89 degrees. : AgentPothead
              • Actually 0 would be head on from the other side, so I suppose it's only 1-89 :P : AgentPothead
            • knowing games they probably calculate the vector to the polygon you hit on the collision mesh. : imperator
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      Hey Pothead, I need to play some more Squad Death Match with ya, but can't skip work for a bit. You ever... : dnagenome
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        I'm east coast, but can probably find some time in the evenings. If you didn't already add me to your ste... : AgentPothead
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          I'm pretty sure I did after our last session, but I'll check when I get home this evening : dnagenome
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            Yeah I thought you did, but so many random people have added me since BC2 came out I'm not sure who is wh... : AgentPothead
            • Ya, and I lost you from the BC2 Friends list when all my friends disappeared. Haven't bothered recreatin... : dnagenome
• great link thanks!!! : GodFather
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  There's another one around that shows how many shots it takes to kill someone. The M95, M24, and Gol are... : ShadowRam
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    GOL requires less extra elevation to compensate for bullet drop - and the M95 will punch through a gun sh... : dedgecko
    • I have tried this and it is not in my experience. :( : MercFox1
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      The M95 will not go through a gun shield. I tried it numerous times last night to test it, unless I'm doi... : mechanicalgrape
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        Does the M95 damage light vehicles? IMHO It should take out a quad in one shot heh : unholydonuts
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          It does take out quads in one shot :) : daedraug
          • Or maybe not, the one I shot may well have been seriously banged up already. : daedraug
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      The only thing I've noticed about the M95 is that it seems to have the least amount of distance drop and ... : dnagenome
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        M95 is worth it just because of the damage it can inflict on the UAV, Apache, and Blackhawk. : MercFox1
        • Yes, I was 1-shotting UAVs left and right last night after getting the M95 finally : Begawkiness
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          yeah that was fun last night wasn't it : _jon
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            I jumped out before you popped Knight's Apache, teehee. I also managed to knock one out (pubbie driver) a : MercFox1
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              stacked teams : _jon
              • IAWTP =P : Xevo
        • Don't get me wrong, I love the M95, when I go sniper, it's the gun I choose. Can't beat the range/drop r... : dnagenome
        • This would seemingly (partly) answer my question above. Cool. : unholydonuts
        • Its also worth it because its hilarious when Sweet Lew gets sniped from the pilots seat of a Blackhawk as... : Tommy Toolbag
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      the m95 will also kill with a body shot at medium to close range which makes them pretty amazing when the... : theWhite
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        So will every other rifle. : ShadowRam
        • They all do to an extent, the M95 just has the best range of them all. : _jon
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          true, but the m95 allows you the most range before the falloff fails to kill people. : theWhite
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            IMO for sniper rifles, falloff is irrelevant. 95% of the time, I'm engaging an enemy as a recon unit at 5... : ShadowRam
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              I've maxed out the recon class a while ago. I get a K/D ratio of 3/1 or better when using the M24. Added... : ShadowRam
              • well first off, k/d ratios dont mean anything when you are sitting 50 m out of the battle. second, i have... : theWhite
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              I really belive that the GOL is the best rifle in the game, quick reload, no scope bob, makes headshots e... : mechanicalgrape
              • I can agree with this due to having died to the GOL + Magnum bullets at least 3x more often than to any o... : Xevo
    • Sniper_Bullet. A bullet affected by fake gravity. Used by the M24, SV-98, GOL, and Slug Shotguns HMG_bul... : ShadowRam
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    You aren't always shooting at people with full health. The M95 has a vastly superior damage dropoff to th... : TrptJim
    • This is why i choose it, especially stationary targets, where i can pull out the pistol, even at extreme ... : sreyes22
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      This is incorrect : ShadowRam
      • No ^^^ is incorrect. : S1ing B1ade
      • Look at the chart again. : TrptJim
  • Is the M95 the only rifle with bullet penetration? Or does GOL have it too? : AltZero
• thanks! they better balance that m60 a bit. : Flinz
• I really wish he would keep the titles of the rows above each weapon group. : stgdz
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  Tracer Dart. Not affected be gravity btw. : ShadowRam
  • yah i had noticed that thing travels straight : Shadowdane
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  Something I didn't know; apparently, the smoke launcher will cancel out a tracer dart if you are tagged. ... : TheQuad
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    Yeah, also if you have the alt fire on vehicles that launch smoke canisters that cancels the tracer dart ... : DM7
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      Well then maybe I'll be equipping that perk when flying choppers, did not know that. : Begawkiness
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        What I figured is that the smoke launcher perk would instead shoot flares out of the helicopters. At leas... : MercFox1
        • That would be nice. :( : DM7
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          I saw flares shooting out of a heli last night, and came to the conclusion that the smoke perk causes tha... : slickdoody
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            I saw that the other day and thought I was seeing things, because I had never seen one do that up to that... : GrnMonster
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              I've got smoke perk, I'll go check now, was gonna try and play anyway. : unholydonuts
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                Smoke perk on the uav lets you launch smoke grenades at a target, could for covering your team from view. : dnagenome
                • actually it would be great for when you can see who you're taking fire from - pop smoke at them and make ... : dedgecko
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                  I love killing people with the UAV smoke, got a double kill with it last Thursday! : Xevo
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                    Xevo, you're the one that clued me into the fun of the smoke perk on tanks! I was riding around with you... : dnagenome
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                      yeah I saw your message in-game, I definitely think it's the best perk and have been using it since launc... : Xevo
                      • ahh, i had to go back to work, was just a couple rounds at lunchtime. Of course i did get another triple... : dnagenome
      • choppers don't get smoke, think about it, you're in a 3d space in midair, smoke would blow away instantly... : Xevo
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    I love the smoke launcher for the assault. I find it so much more useful and less gay than the 40mm explo... : Dschinghis Khan
    • Smoke is hilarious. Shooting it a nest of enemy snipers is like fumigating for cockroaches. : mroizo40
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      i royally suck with the 40mm, i think i've killed like 3 people total, ever with that thing. : theWhite
      • hah i get so many kills with the 40mm grenade. It's not even funny. im not talking about close range m... : -=kodiak=-
  • Whoa?! That's awesome - great info. : dedgecko
  • Wow, I was wondering why anyone would use smoke. Thanks for the heads up. : ProtoPunch
• On a side note, I finally got the bronze star on all weapons except the tommy gun and the garand. Will I... : dnagenome
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  so how many of you guys have everything unlocked? all I have left are some of the vehicle unlocks. wh... : _jon
  • the only thing left for me is the mp5 for the engy. i just unlocked the final assault class gun and it is... : theWhite
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    does the sensitivity change when you are in a vehicle or does it treat it differently? it seems like i ha... : ass-street
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      i'm guessing it just takes a fraction of your current mouse sensitivity. they need to add a separate veh... : _jon
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        This is by design. So no, they don't need a separate sensitivity bar otherwise people will just jack it t... : Sgt_Boomstick
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          Ok. This just punishes people who don't have sensitivity controls on their mice. : JHelgie
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            No, the rotation is hard locked. You could set your DPI to 50 000 and it won't matter. : Sgt_Boomstick
            • The rotation depends on mouse sensitivity. Changing my mouse from 1200 DPI to 2000 DPI causes turrets to... : JHelgie
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          When players with an adjustable-DPI mouse can basically just up their sensitivity ingame while low-sensit... : _jon
          • i agree. i have my sensitivity up pretty high and i have to pick up my mouse at least 3-5 times to rotate... : ass-street
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            Problem is the speed limit is only horizontal, so jacking up your DPI makes looking up/down way too fast. : dumb.
            • It still helps though, I use it to get the turret where I want it and put it back to normal. : ProtoPunch
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      Vehicles have a limit to their turn rates. You can crank your sensitivity up and it won't help : mroizo40
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        I have adjustable sensitivity. Cranking it up does help. The animations of the guns turning even look f... : Wheatloaf
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          It does help, but there is a max turning speed for tank turrets. If you up the in game game sensitivity s... : pyide
          • Oh yeah, it maxes out, but having it adjustable on mouse is great. I can even dial it down when on a sni... : Wheatloaf
  • Everything except the M16A2 (Last Assault) and the last 2 SMG's for the eng.... : ShadowRam
  • I am just going the engineer path, its what I play in every game that has the engineer. I may go back ... : stgdz
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    I don't care to unlock the medic stuff. Every team already has far too many medics and the medic guns are... : NastyJack
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      But it isn't always the case, sometimes teams need a medic, and if you have the unlocks and familiarity w... : dnagenome
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        Sometimes a squad needs a medic, that's true. The team generally has way too many though. : NastyJack
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          Heh, but not all of those are the good medics. I'm horrible at medic, but been playing it lately, trying... : dnagenome
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            watch for crosses on your minimap, and be ready to throw out health at any time... obv paddle people when... : Xevo
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              ya, my problem is the priority i give shooting, usually do it first. : dnagenome
              • that's why you are getting less points. the m60 is great for killing people, but ultimately you get WAY m... : Xevo
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      yea since the whole m60 squad shit began i haven't touched medic. the only time i am one is when i pick ... : eeeealmo
      • i generally play pubs at midnight, and i'm damn near the only medic healing or reviving :( and yeah, just... : xsoulbrothax
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    im level 23 with 0 recon points :( : eeeealmo
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      but... C4?!!! Why do you hate it? : dedgecko
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        i've been playing FPS's since they began but have never been one to snipe. i'm sure i will eventually tr... : eeeealmo
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          ...you clearly need to be instructed in the use of BALLS+HEC4. I do not snipe, and I'm the deadliest R : dedgecko
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            No. No you aren't. : ArcKnight
            • aww - shucks. : dedgecko
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        if you want to use C4 and blow things up Assault is also viable , maybe even better because you can resup... : Nihil ME
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          Dude.Sensor balls.Cant leave home without those. : supi
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            Agreed - was just saying that Assault can use C4 too. : Nihil ME
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              I destroy tanks all the time with C4....I even got a triple tank kill with C4. I prefer to carry the shot... : james_austintx
              • Any class can carry a shotgun... : dedgecko
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          No, you are dead wrong. Recon is far more dangerous than an Assault guy. Though together they are an ... : dedgecko
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            Assault can equip C4 : AltZero
            • Hello Forehead, meet Palm of Hand. : dedgecko
    • yeah i had to force myself to play recon for a couple hours for the unlocks :( sniping is fun and all but... : Iwannaacura
    • if you are lvl 23, you have plenty of options for recon other than sniper. : theWhite
    • Lvl 16 and 0 Recon points. : Wyvern
  • I have everything except the last weapon for Medics iirc. : dedgecko
  • heh I got all vehicle unlocks within about 3 hours of playing. : Xevo
  • I'm level 12 and I haven't unlocked any of the Assault or Engineer guns. :( : Dynotaku
  • I had everything unlocked by L23, all kits done, all upgrades on. : Lunatic Angelic
  • I have everything unlocked, mostly just to have the extra weapons as options. I only really play medic an... : TrptJim
• Yes indeed, thanks for reposting : kahuuna
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  What does alt fire do in the choppers? : gibolas1234
  • shoot rockets and then your gunner is suppose to "paint" a tank for you. (depending on chopper) I know... : Iwannaacura
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  I've used the M95 a lot, so I think I can talk about it's advantages. 1. No bullet drop and much faste... : S1ing B1ade
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    There is indeed bullet drop with the M95, it's just not as pronounced as the other rifles. : mechanicalgrape
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      if he is a short range sniper, he wont run into the ....... DROP ZONE!!!! : theWhite
      • Oh, shit. : JonathanBedrava
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  wow. what an abortion of terminal ballistics. i thought this game's weapons was supposed to be realistic?... : d0pamine
  • were* : d0pamine
  • Realistic? no. They do use gravity drop-offs. If you want realism in BC2 try HC mode. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • it's more realistic than just about every other popular mulitplayer shooter, but for goodness sakes, the ... : slickdoody
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  Carl Gustav can eat a dick. : Albemuth
  • It's the one thing that makes the engi not suck. : Visceral Monkey
  • I'm pretty sure he's more a top than a bottom, given the way he likes to blow his load. : dnagenome
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  There was a rumor going around at one point saying that the magnum ammo doesn't actually do anything for ... : mechanicalgrape
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    its not that it doesn't do anything its that even with magnum ammo you can't get a 1 shot body kill so th... : plat2on1
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      The M24, SV98, GOL, and M95 will all one shot kill if the distance to the target is small enough. : mechanicalgrape
      • ^ this. : Godhatesfatpeople
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        Yep and with the M95 it is pretty reasonable... like 40 meters, with magnum. And even after that you do 9... : S1ing B1ade
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          whats the point though, you really want to run around and try to get lucky with body shots? : plat2on1
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            It's very similar to using the AWP in Counter-Strike. With the red dot sight it's not luck it's aim. Kill... : S1ing B1ade
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              i'm not saying hitting them is luck, it is them being at the right range for a 1 shot kill that is the lu... : plat2on1
              • The right range is like 40 yards with magnum. Not hard to get that close... : S1ing B1ade
      • So Run around with your 4x scopes people! : Crimsonbeak
      • that combined with shooting people that are slightly damage, which should be a 1-hit kill with a GOL magn... : Xevo
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  You know, I really wish they added a prone that doesn't allow you to fire. Some kind of way for a person... : pigvomit
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    you should already know that a tank is incoming - and your team should be prepared to do something about ... : dedgecko
    • But still, I would enjoy the game more if I could dive for cover. I still play it like a war game, even ... : pigvomit
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    I actually like that there's no prone. It forces you to run for cover large enough to protect you, making... : daedraug
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      Sure its more dynamic, but it doesn't feel natural. I understand the design choice to keep a normal pron... : pigvomit
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        I wish the game had some terrain deformation. Shell the shit out of an area and make a bunch of holes in ... : Crimsonbeak
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          lol - it does. : dedgecko
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            It does? : Crimsonbeak
            • in a limited sense, ya. I think there's 1 (maybe 2) levels of the ground being "dented" : slickdoody
            • The desert rush map is a good example of this, sometimes after a while the area immediately in front of t... : JHelgie
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              yepppers; just pepper the ground and put a mine it and tank goes boom : devpaul
              • i used to do that SO MUCH in BC1 on the 360. i'd RPG the ground to put a crater in it, then drop the mine... : xsoulbrothax
        • Hmm, I could have sworn I saw a crater get made by a tank round (or was it mortar?) the other day. Of cou... : Attica Blue
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          It does have terrain deformation - bit it's minimal, you dent the ground rather than crater it. : dumb.
          • Craters are being saved for Destruction 3.0 : ant_hillbilly
        • It definitely does exactly this and on some particularly intense matches I have resorted to hiding in cra... : Begawkiness
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      I agree. I like the prone mechanic in other games, but I think BC2 is better off without it. If everyon... : ahk-med
      • slowing it down a bit would be ok imo. some of the best sandbox moments of older BF titles happened becau... : thebigbeefsandwich
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  I am suprised more recons don't use the VSS. : stgdz
  • I like using the Red Dot scope with the VSS. It's pretty devastating in some situations. : TrptJim
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    I've used the VSS a few times when I'm doing the close range recon style of play but I really didn't like... : Begawkiness
    • that was my impression as well, i get better results with a shotgun or the G3 : theWhite
    • you can get the drop on someone with the VSS and score 10 hits while firing the 20rd magazine, but they w... : proclone1
• lol @ the m60 : wurt
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  Is there any way to know if you have been spotted? This may be a noob question but I still dont know. xb : drdreed
  • Look over your head for an orange triangle. I don't believe there is, but I've never asked either. : slickdoody
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    Nah, why would you know the enemy has spotted you, kind of defeats the purpose. Although on the otherhand... : thebigbeefsandwich
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      I always feel terribly cheap when I get kills shooting blindly at orange triangles :( : daedraug
      • I, on the other hand, giggle like a school girl. : Wyvern
    • I don't think it's very overpowered. You lose the spot if the enemy leaves your line of site. : TrptJim
  • are you being shot the instant you move out of cover, even if you moved significantly? then you're spotte... : Xevo
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  i've been playing tree lately, and i love building resto stone and then going in for a 2x ult. very much... : packav
  • wrong game rofls : packav
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  How do you get the Magnum Ammo? Is there an unlock tree somewhere online? : dumb.
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    It's for getting rank 15(i think, the one it lists ingame is wrong). : JHelgie
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      Yeah, the ingame rank for the body armor and mag ammo is off by 1 to 2 levels. : Wyvern
      • improved explosions is the same way. I think in game it says rank 22 and I believe I got the perk at 17? : slickdoody
    • hahaha of course its wrong :( gogo bf games! <3 : xsoulbrothax
    • I think it lists rank 13? so I was kinda miffed when it hasn't unlocked yet : proclone1
    • I just got it at 16 IIRC : Xevo
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  HALP ME DOODZ: I just want that gustov bazooka thing but I can't get any decent points for Engy :( Also, ... : jane911
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    Repair - especially a vehicle with a squad mate inside. Use the Saiga if you have it, its better then ... : Nihil ME
    • is saiga better than that scar gun? I am using the saiga with the extended mag : jane911
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    The CG is for small-dicked, tapeworm-infested, runny-nosed bastards with the social skills of a pubic lou... : Wyvern
    • And getting infantry kills with the RPG is much more satisfying. Especially if you can regularly out-snip... : Beady
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      I figired if I couldn't beat em I will join em : jane911
      • *figured meh : jane911
  • As a recon it's easier to just run with a squad and throw your motion sensor balls as soon as you get the... : mroizo40
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    Engy is the worst to level, everyone else has things they can throw and they just soak up points : snuff
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      It's probably the easiest if you can find a good tank buddy and stick to him like glue with the repair to... : pyide
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        or get in the blackhawk and repair it while your squad gunners rape everything. : Beady
        • Oh yeah, that'll get you some serious points too. : pyide
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        Plus the tracer + RPG combo racks up damage and vehicle destruction points super easy. I was trying t... : pyide
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          the default rpg sucks though I don't know what it is good for unless the vehicle you're aiming at isn't m... : jane911
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            I dunno, with the tracer I can usually take a vehicle out in a few seconds if there is no one there to re... : pyide
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              RPG > CG when working on a Vehicle that's been Darted. : dedgecko
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                That's what I was saying with the original reply and again in the 3rd line of the above post! : pyide
                • err - misreply instended for jane911 - my bad. : dedgecko
      • Not even worth it to max out though. You just get more and more mediocre submachine guns. : snuff
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      Engy is easy to leave... on maps with vehicles. You can easily rack up a ton of points sitting and repai... : AltZero
      • The shitty part is you're there trying to repair someone and the second they take enemy tank fire, they g... : snuff
  • It is hard initially. Repair a lot of stuff, throw grenades, and try to be sneaky to get kills with your ... : UtilityMaximizer
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  Its stupid that the only advantage the USAS (a very late shotgun unlock) has over the SAIGA (a very early... : FiReaNG3L
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    does it hold more shells? because that would be a pretty big advantage : valael
    • which perk allows you to double the size of your clip? : edgewise
  • What's strange is early on I ruled with the Saiga and thought the USAS was a POS once I unlocked it. I ha... : haccess
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    It's fully automatic whereas the Saiga is a semi-auto. : dedgecko
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      I can click fast enough to not notice the difference : FiReaNG3L
      • agreed - I think I can fire the Saiga faster than the USAS12's full-auto mode. : dedgecko
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  I mostly play Engy and I've found I am getting much better at taking out Helicopters with Carl G. Its ta... : AltZero
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    real men use the rpg-7 not really, but I nailed a blackhawk's tail the other day. the thing went near... : valael
    • Hahah, Terrorists use the rpg-7 I actually should try the rpg again, i know it is supposed to do more... : AltZero
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  How to get Recon points w/o being a hill-camping Sally-Bitch Since I've seen way to many people compla... : dedgecko
  • For future reference: HEC4 - is C4 using the +25% explosive damage perk. You can wipe out entire squads... : dedgecko
  • That is awesome. Makes me want to try it out. : avi2000
• I guess we know why the spotting scope sucks now, it only works up to 75m. : mechanicalgrape
• This stuff is good to know. : Sgt_Boomstick

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  I don't like this system because it requires 100 posts, which means that lurkers can't be protected, and ... : kaddar0
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    Is 100 posts really difficult? Honestly?! : MercFox1
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      I had a couple people bitching to me last night that it was. These people have not discovered how quickly... : Arctic Fox
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        seriously, look at me! : deject
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          http://www.shacknews.com/search.x?type=comments&terms=lol&cs_user=deject&cs_parentauthor=&s_type=all : deject
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            You are the kind of loling. : ieGod
            • http://lmnopc.com/greasemonkey/shacklol/user.php?loldby=deject : deject
            • lol lol : snot3353
      • Is that the point of all those lol posts? It always seemed unnecessary to add to the end of a long chain ... : LilCrypto
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      Out of curiosity, does anyone know what percent of the current players on the servers are lurkers versus ... : kaddar0
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        What constatutes a lurker? I would consider myself a lurker but have several hundred post last I checked.... : VectorJKL
        • someone that reads the site and either hasn't signed up for an account or has posted less than 100 posts. : dantastic
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        I was a lurker since the early days of Shugashack lol. Took me till this game to actually make an acccou... : Digital_Bath
        • get postin sonny! make a new post about what you like or don't like about BC2 and have a discussion with... : dantastic
        • Welcome to the pain train!! : james_austintx
        • Mobab's Quick Guide to getting 100 Posts in 5 Steps Step 1: Make a random snide remark against MW2. ... : mobab
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      It is when you don't post... There's a ton of lurkers here. I've been a lurker, I started posting whe... : wangel
      • Just find a retarded political thread and start posting in that, you'll reach 100 posts in no time. :P : MercFox1
      • create a shortcut to shack search and put your name in the parent author field. This is how I stay inv... : dedgecko
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        You care enough about the message boards, but you'll use the game servers? ;) : DM7
        • Owning you in text and having you DIAF from our Pyro's flamethrower are two seperate and distinct forms o... : Ryu Connor
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    Also I have a friend who I'd like to invite to the shack server, and I'd rather pubbies get kicked over h... : kaddar0
    • that's why there's a 100 post rule : dantastic
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    This was implemented at the request of admins to the servers. The reasoning is that the shack branded ser... : ieGod
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      Can we 'sponsor' a 'pubbie'? I gifted my friend BC2 last night and he wants to play with all of us. He... : pancake humper
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        Also, is there protection in place so a shacker cannot kick another shacker? I can see that being a huge ... : pancake humper
        • Yeah that's the whole point. When you're in the system you're protected. If the server is filled with aut... : ieGod
    • Or buy your own server and make whatever rules you want! : tashtego
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      Yeah, I can respect the decisions of the admins if that's what they want. : kaddar0
      • Mostly it is because we had maintaining lists of shackers and being constantly (and I mean constantly) in... : LoioshDwaggie
    • I'm chipping away at the total, but trying not to simply make spam. I may have set the bar too high give... : Ryu Connor
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    this means lurkers were forced to be an active part of the community should they want to play on shack se... : Flinz
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      by posting things twice you could end up playing on shackservers with only 50 distinct posts! : Flinz
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        Exemplary. : ieGod
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          It's even better because if you comment on every double post you make, it eventually adds up to only need : MercFox1
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            whoa, hold it hold it. that would make it 99 net posts. doesn't get you on the servers bro, sorry : Flinz
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              See you just made it 100. lolz : MercFox1
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                hah lolz. 101. wow, gaining shackexp is so easy if you have MercFox1 around! : Flinz
                • If the post gets nuked, like your doubled post did, does it still count? : dnagenome
                • They should make Shack servers unlocks... =p : mobab
      • cheater! : naabster
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      Yeah I'm not crying about it so much as acknowledging that if we punish lurkers too much the servers will... : kaddar0
      • well, it's not like pubbies will be kept off the servers in general. it's just that if (as a shacker) you... : Flinz
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        The TF2 servers are/were passworded. Shackwest is only even running on Tuesday evenings. Totally differen... : Merconium
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          and TF2 is how old now? : Arctic Fox
          • but they got hats! : dnagenome
          • Not as old as DoD:S? : ArcKnight
    • Well played. Doubling your posts will get you to 100 twice as fast! : SgtPepper78
  • So what. : [7]kami
  • also what about ducks? : sikander
  • I think the people that pay for these servers want to play with people from the Shacknews community. Peop... : Bamii
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    I don't know that this matches my sentiments exactly, but I will say this. I'm no where near 100 posts a... : SgtPepper78
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      check out crustar's post history for a guide on posting the same thing over and over. youll be there in n... : maulla
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        whoa... : SgtPepper78
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          "Celebrating my dad's birthday!" : SgtPepper78
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            Yeah, my dad was born on St. Patty's day! : CrustaR
            • OMG I didn't know youd post on this subthread. I hope I got yer quotes right. : P I gotta admit I di... : SgtPepper78
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        Sorry, I somehow managed to post my own name twice in a row! : CrustaR
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    Well tough on them. The line has to be drawn somewhere, and you're not really proposing any alternatives.... : geedeck
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      Alternatives? How about 50? : ) : SgtPepper78
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        comeon. 100 will take you a day if you just hang around. But make it intelligent comments ok? not like : Flinz
        • But make it intelligent comments NWS posts ok? Fixed. : Alco23
  • I am glad I managed to get ~ 600 posts in the 8 years since I registered ;) : Nihil ME
  • While a system that would kick pubbies before lurkers would be nice, I understand that might be too much ... : Athul
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    ieGod is like a drug dealer. He offers you the first hit at a very small price, because he knows that onc... : Arctic Fox
    • LOL : dnagenome
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    good. fuck lurkers. : ass-street
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      Tell us how you really feel!!! LOL : dnagenome
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        See man. you're already up to 81. Almost there and you never have to post again! :D : Dschinghis Khan
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          Ya, but I started with 60, I actually started posting with the BC2 threads, prior to that I was just a lu... : dnagenome
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            Just post in every BC2 thread and you'll be set. There's a billion BC2 threads everyday so it's not like ... : Alco23
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              Ya, I passed 100, but it's still fun to post in the bc2 threads, mostly because I really like this game. ... : dnagenome
              • Shacknews: "Come for the games, stay for the porn" : Klebold
          • haha thats the point : dantastic
  • Man, I've always considered myself a lurker, but I have over 600 posts. What the eff, duders. : drhazard
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    Why should we cater or even care about lurkers joining a community game? If they don't even post here, w... : edgewise
    • they're not voting for president, and I don't see a correlation between lurking in the comments (and it c... : sharpie
    • edgewise for shack president 2012 : ArcKnight
  • QQ lurker! : proclone1
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  Also, leave off the clan tag when you register. Just the soldier name. e.g. I registered with Dr Arctic F... : Arctic Fox
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    that should probably be pointed out on the page : Clay
    • It is now. : ieGod
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  Again, thanks for it, internet explorer god. I hope to kick limpossible, because he got two tags from me.... : Nitrium
  • have you tried bribery yet? : dnagenome
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    You seem to be very generous with those tags... :) : Bamii
    • I hate you too. Seriously - looks like I'm some kind of knife magnet. I suck so bad at situational awaren... : Nitrium
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      also, what's your steamid, you faggot - I want to add you to my friends list : Nitrium
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        http://steamcommunity.com/id/Bamii : Bamii
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          I Added you last night bamii did you get it? or are you ignoring me >:( : Vincenoir
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            I would never do something like that! Probably haven't seen the invite yet :) : Bamii
            • I keed, I keed. I may see you 2night good sir on the Battlefield of dallas! : Vincenoir
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    And yet when i got yours you also kindly gave me the verbal middle finger!! : dnagenome
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      I hate you. : Nitrium
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        me too. : RogerDandy
        • What'd I do to you? I swear that was not my rocket/knife/bullet!!!! : dnagenome
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        but it's a piece of history your tags are, soon they'll be silver when you hit 20, and i'll still have a ... : dnagenome
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          :'( : Nitrium
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            Why so serious? I'm pretty sure you got my tags by now too. I hand them out like candy, and the game lo... : dnagenome
            • It's because the teams were stacked! : SgtPepper78
• Registered. Thanks for the reminder. : [7]kami
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  Man I have fun last night, some really close games. Me, Jimmylegs, Nasty, and Xevo got gold squad lik... : james_austintx
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    you fucking stackers waaaaaaaaaaa : Nitrium
    • Lol, I think Xevo starting feeling guilty and switched on the Harbor map. : james_austintx
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      STACKING!!! : Dschinghis Khan
      • STACKD TEAMZ : MercFox1
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        RAGE : Nitrium
        • Only Duffman can properly RAGE : dnagenome
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      lookit these stackers! : RyDogg1
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        Stacknews gets you points. : TrptJim
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          Its cool when pubbies come on and say "Shitty news site, shitty server"...and then proceed to stick aroun... : MercFox1
          • That was terrible, especially because he had a 999 ping and everyone else was in the normal range. What d... : ieGod
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            hahaha that sounds hilarious : Nitrium
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              Man, last, we had some people complaining about the stacked even though the fucking score was 1-1. And bo... : Dschinghis Khan
              • that really sucks - I hate these complaints because most times it's just because one team is communicatin... : Nitrium
              • Pretty sure I saw the tickets go to 0-0 on one map last night. : daedraug
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                One thing I've learned: don't complain about stacking until you've had a chance to play both offense and ... : NastyJack
                • It was hilarious because we lost the first match and it was SUPER close (like 1-0 tickets) and then the s... : ArcKnight
          • LOL : dnagenome
      • NO WINNING ALLOWED. ALL WINS ARE AT THE RESULT OF STACKING. : twifosp
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    I led the all-pubbie team to glorious defeat on Chicago last night. : _jon
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      STACKED : Dschinghis Khan
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        just like this girl I once knew. : ShadowRam
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          fake - you don't know any girls : _jon
          • it was dark : james_austintx
  • Our team lost almost every time but I got gold squad every time too. I am the smartest person on the shor... : mysled
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    Fuck yeah that was fun. After we won a couple games Xevo changed sides and it made things way more even. ... : NastyJack
    • that is true, we also adapted well to what the situation needed. Can't adapt without communication.... : james_austintx
• This is awesome, thanks for setting it up! : bigblack
• I did miss that, thanks! : dumb.
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  Thank you for the daytime post. I missed the one lastnight. I signed up... should be fine... if we have... : Q-ball
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    No, you must instead flail ineffectually at your monitor. : Arctic Fox
    • I was planning on putting holes in the wall with my monitor until someone noticed. Lets see who wins. : tboomer2
  • Yes absolutely. You can change your registered EA playername and password with the system. Be aware it's ... : ieGod
• It's hard to control the urge to kick people who get to play while I am at work >:( : clain
• Neato : DonarUDL
• I feel horrible doing this.. But.. . . A spot cleared up for me in seconds. Big fan! : tboomer2
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  by soldier name, that is NOT including the [shack] clan tag, correct? : proclone1
  • correct. no clan tag! : pyide
  • Correct! : ieGod
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  New server added thanks to memine and awolronin! IP: 209.44.97.155:19571 Montreal AW0L 77b6076e-3b... : ieGod
  • Added, thanks for the Canadian server memine and awolronin : Piett23
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  If you want to make it easy to access while playing and you don't have a secondary monitor and don't want... : pyide
  • I'll also add the page to the Steam BC2 group page for easy clickage. : Arctic Fox
  • This is a great idea. : ieGod

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  God DAMN is YouTube slow today. I'll tell you what I think next week when it finally gets itself togethe... : Creepin_Jeezus
  • I know what you mean, sometimes its blazing but lately its so slow. : Beady
  • YouTube is always slow. : prime8
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  I love how they keep twisting that MW2 knife. : GrnMonster
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    from 50 yards away... : Fyunch Click
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      Gotta stay out of range of the MW2 knife, you know. : LoioshDwaggie
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        Did mw2 knife have a lunge? : Turd Ferguson
        • One of the perks gave it an unreasonable killing range : aggressor
• lol amazing : eeeealmo
• lol...that's great : ColoradoCNC
• lol : Moonbase Commander
• brilliant : porp
• Doh. Didn't see your post. And yes this ad is good. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Such sour grapes from the nice folks at EA, like the wouldn't shoot every DICE developer and their famil... : stonedonkey
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    Healthy competition. I don't mind it when it's well done. And these references have been funny. : Godhatesfatpeople
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      I'm not even sure it's that close of a competition, have the released sales figures for BC2 yet, I'm curi... : stonedonkey
      • and why the hell can't I put "y" on they.. grr. : stonedonkey
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      They're more than happy to offer PC gamers what they want. : LoioshDwaggie
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        I think that's what PC gamers tell themselves, trust me, EA is more than happy to maximize profits whene... : stonedonkey
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          I think the two dedicated servers I run tell me otherwise. : LoioshDwaggie
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            Never said shackers don't hold a lot of love for the series, but I'm not sure they are the norm. There's... : stonedonkey
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              So BC2 is only popular at the moment because of 42 nostalgia? D: : Godhatesfatpeople
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                I think there's a bit of grace given to it where other games would have been torn apart... I'm still surp... : stonedonkey
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                  But you can still manage the servers you do pay for. That's still a huge plus given what IW offered. : Godhatesfatpeople
                  • I agree its better than nothing. I'm still curious if they get a cut of the server rentals, if so its pr... : stonedonkey
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              I was referring more to being able to run dedicated servers than the population. The population will ebb ... : LoioshDwaggie
              • You can't run dedicated servers though you can pay to admin them, just sayin ;) : stonedonkey
          • the two dedicated servers you rent : maulla
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          Yup, pretty much. The booster pack nonsense with BF2 and saturating the market with C&C sequels no-one ca... : Klebold
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            They have already acknowledged that DLC maps tend to fracture a games online so hopefully they will shy a... : Beady
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              Hopefully the dlc will center around some sort of coop experience. : thejay247
              • I think COOP in the SP is made redundant by the MP since the big set pieces is about shit blowing up, whi... : Klebold
        • Oh noes! : razlebol
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          Still don't know what this has to do with the ad. But I'll play along. So they're not allowed to take a j... : Godhatesfatpeople
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            They can I just feel it comes off badly, I don't find either video that amusing, and I'm not sure the fir... : stonedonkey
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              The first one was in-game. Posted by a user. : Godhatesfatpeople
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                No it wasn't. The first one was an official IW ward video, but was pulled because people bitched about th... : ArcKnight
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                  Wait. Are we talking about the "heart monitor" clip? Because that's what I thought he meant. : Godhatesfatpeople
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                    No, the 'Fight Against Grenade Spam' video. : ArcKnight
                    • Ah, okay. : Godhatesfatpeople
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          Just assume? : lechuck59
          • I know I lol'd : acheron
  • I don't think it is "sour grapes". I doubt EA has any notion they are going to reach MW2 numbers, so why ... : byorn
• Very good. : DM7
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  It's funny, but the 40mm grenade launcher is just as bad. :( : DM7
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    The 40mm spam is worse since by default every Assault carries at least 2. Not that I'm complaining. I c... : AltZero
    • They carry infinite the second you unlock the ammo pack :p : Beady
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      It can get pretty bad; however, it is (on its own) pointless in Battlefield. You don't win by getting kil... : LoioshDwaggie
      • Unless you're playing as Defenders in Rush or either side in Conquest. : nbft
    • More so, its bad because the assault class also carries unlimited refills of nades for themselves to spam... : Saman
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      BC2 definitely allows for a more general explosive spam. Focusing on the grenades is cute, but belies a ... : Ryu Connor
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        To me, they focused on spamming grenades to win. That just won't happen in BC2. : aggressor
        • Until you blow up the M-COM station. : Robotic Puppy Eater
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      Nade spamming w/ assault is awesome. There's nothing quite like spamming nades from the blackhawk lol. : goatjc
      • It's better raining RPG's from the BH and Hind. : Godhatesfatpeople
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        Can you toss an ammo kit in the back of the blackhawk? : Medster
        • No. They fall right through :P : Godhatesfatpeople
        • You can toss anything in the back of a blackhawk. : Sturm08
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        GLITCH I found a weird glitch in this game while in the blackhawk as an engineer. If you shoot a rocket ... : mrseldowski
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          You sure? Repairing whilst in blackhawk only works when you are close to the ground (but still can be hov... : Klebold
          • This isn't true. You can repair the blackhawk at any altitude. There's just a specific area or two that... : Medster
    • This needs a serious nerf. And the m60. I've pretty much only been killed by those two weapons. : Wheatloaf
    • Honestly you need to aim them pretty well so its technically not "spam" as they do very little damage if ... : mrseldowski
• Hahaha love it. : ateam311
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  grenade spam not effective in BC2? LOL : maulla
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    For kills? Maybe. For winning? No. : aggressor
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      definetly for winning. u can spam people into submission. thatshow u win. : chilln
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        Again, if you're letting them it's your own damn fault. There is means of combating it. : Godhatesfatpeople
        • It's like when people allow the enemy team to stroll into their spawn area and basically just spam them w... : Godhatesfatpeople
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    ^^^ this. lol ammo boxes and spawning on teammates. MW2 seems tame and balanced : Downforce
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      I think this is the first time anyone has ever said that MW2 is balanced.... : cltcprd
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        SEEMS. in comparison. hehehe : Downforce
        • How is MW2 different from MW1? I know MW1 was the grenadest (I invented a word) game in history. : Wyvern
      • are you serious? balance is one thing that is not wrong with MW2. ESPECIALLY compared to BC2 : maulla
  • For short-term kills yeah. But as a team win, not effective at all. When they are spamming is you have mo... : Godhatesfatpeople
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    It's pretty damn effective, especially on rush when defenders are all over their MCOM trying to defend. I... : AscorSix
    • But thats using them with a very effective way. I'm talking about the retards who will sit behind an obst... : Godhatesfatpeople
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  finally broke down and bought this, considering you guys are still going off about it a week later i gues... : gokart.
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    Remember to register here: http://stoldark.com/Shack/BC2Authenticator so you don't get kicked off the sha... : Klebold
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      done! thanks : gokart.
      • I would invite you to the group but i've forgotten my steam password. That remember password checkboss is... : Klebold
• Why did you write the acronym for Fight Against Grenade Spam (FAGS) but not Friends Really against Grenad... : mobab

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• I wanted to play it and even picked up the game along with all the expansion packs but just never got aro... : mastermike569
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  I had a pang for the orinigal EQ reciently, but unless your playing with a friend or something, you will ... : Jinxplayer
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    Yah, I restarted. Friends asked me to join. Only 4 of us tho... Took me like a month to get 90, the ... : wangel
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      That's how it goes. Games people enjoy more than WoW don't cater as much to their casual play style, so ... : breadsticks
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        That's because pre-WoW MMOs are all built on some seriously archaic design philosophies inspired pretty m... : Zek
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          archaic in a bad way, orr? sure, EQ1 and the like were very, very unforgiving - but that is what made eac... : jane911
          • *(as intended). The game was definitely not meant to be played solo. GOD I remember in the closed/alpha/e... : jane911
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            this was blizzards primary goal with WoW from day 1, make every player the star and let them solo (if a b... : graceofdragons
            • Ya. Not digging on WoW as I enjoyed it as well... but I never once felt 'fucked' in that game lol. It was... : jane911
          • I miss the days of time effects that eq had. Nothing like picking erudian mage (summoner, can't remember... : JuffoWup
          • Demon's Souls is a good example of a game that is "unsafe" without being downright mean. Everquest's deat... : Zek
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        It's not even that always. A lot of other games are extremely short sighted with certain things. EQ2 w... : TheNiXXeD
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          Yah, but trying to get void armor now is pita.... Its a catch-22 and people are pricks in the game it ... : wangel
          • Both. Old eq crowd > new folks :o : breadsticks
• I just bought the complete set for $20 with 60 days game time. I am going to see how it goes and it may b... : jdmSlix
• I am being sucked back in. NOOOO : Lucien Irenicus
• My account is still active, but I haven't played in several months. There's a lot I love about EQ2 but... : Captain Loco
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  I got it on Steam and played the free month (I got to level 48) I really wanted to carry on playing, h... : jbury
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    Haha that's pretty funny. Their loss I guess. : TheNiXXeD
    • Yeah it kinda sucks as I really was enjoying it :) : jbury
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  I play off and on every year. I'm waiting for the new shader 2.0 system and Halas to go live in the next ... : Visceral Monkey
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    Do tell when this new shader system is coming if you know? I wouldn't mind a re-sub if even for a month o... : jane911
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      It's on test right now, I think it's due soon. Here's a monster thread on it, with screenies in it. ht... : Visceral Monkey
      • wow. I'm still surprised how the original gfx hold up after all these years. : jane911
  • Yeah, I'll definitely play more once Halas comes. I'm so sick of TD (I seem to make a new character ever... : valael
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  • Does anyone still play EQ? : TheVietSpecial
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  I'm enjoying the game. I rafed myself a 2nd account so I could make a pocket healer... but like I sai... : wangel
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    ah the memories of pof. sam, will we ever have those days again? =( : greydog
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      No sir grey, I don't think so =( Have you seen/talked to Dyeth recently? He's on my xbox friends list... : wangel
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        What about plumpy? : twifosp
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          no no no : wangel
          • :( : twifosp
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        THE Dyeth Strom? : one baby to another
        • the one and only Dyeth Strom : wangel
• I still have my acct and go back when I'm in an mmo mood. Level 76 or so. : Ebu
• Are they doing free trials for that at all? : Raydeus
• You guys made me all depressed now with all this EQ1 talk, I miss those carefree days when I had all the ... : mastermike569
• Picked it up EQ again. Its so awesome!! Fabled (anniversary) events started today too woo. I played EQ2 r... : chungathebunga
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  No game will ever compare to EverQuest when it first came out. I miss my Bard :( : Jinxplayer
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    its a shame they changed how twisting is done in eq1. I remember when you had to be an awesome player to... : JuffoWup
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      I must of started my bard late because from what I can tell nothing was changed about twisting. What did ... : chungathebunga
      • you used to have to click them on and off and only one song could be played at a time. It was changed th... : JuffoWup
• I play off and on. I currently have an active account. : valael

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• NICE! : lodit
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  So are you going to be playing SSFIV with us or what? :( : boomstickah
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    I decided to just put a family timer on my xbox instead of selling it. So now I am limited to 30 minutes ... : r3ckless
    • whaaaaaaaaaaat? :( why? : boomstickah
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  I was hoping for WIND or Telus to get on this, however it does not stop me from looking. : Piett23
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    I was hoping too. : lodit
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      Trying to find a decent unlocked phone for Wind. : lodit
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        Wind has very low coverage :( : r3ckless
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          Is it bad even in major cities? : lodit
          • WIND is very metropolitan minded. If you live, work, or vacation often in the rural areas it'll cost you... : tboomer2
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            My only problem with Wind is that their plans are for cities only. Once you're outside of those, it'll co... : Mmmmmoo
            • they're expanding, its just slow going. eventually they do plan to have coverage to most of canada. : re4ctor
        • I live in Calgary so that's one if it's flag-ship cities : Piett23
        • Is it really bad in the city? Like...their coverage here should be pretty good, right? Do you travel a... : Rice-Rocketeer
      • Nexus one is out for wind as well : Morgin
  • can't you just buy the "T-Mobile" version? Wind uses the same 1,700MHZ (AWS) 3G band that T-Mobile does : Postal
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  fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu...... I just bought an unlocked LG Vu : Boring Writer
  • Sell sell sell! : r3ckless
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    lol, why the heck would you buy an unlocked feature phone, especially a touchscreen model? that's like... : Postal
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      It was only $160. : Boring Writer
      • like I said, it's like having the budget for a Mercedes but buying a Kia :) : Postal
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  Fucking Rogers. Why can't Telus get any good phones. : tboomer2
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    I want to think that it is because Telus doesn't have crazy money to throw around to land exclusives beca... : Piett23
    • The plans for the big 3 are practically the same. I think you're bang on with the Mr. Moneybags theory. : tboomer2
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  $529? You guys are fuckin nuts, I need a phone not a laptop the size of my hand. : mrseldowski
  • Yeah, that price is insane, Mrs. Eldowski. : Super Sparker
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    Welcome to buying an unlocked phone without a subsidized deal through a new contract. How much do you ... : Brian Leahy
    • oh..."compatible with" Rogers etc., even still that's a lot : mrseldowski
    • my phone plan with AT&T used to be $45/mo. it was $80 with an iphone. $35/mo for the data and other bs ... : handofthrawn
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  When willl they fix it so it works on all networks? I can't believe that oversight. : abrasion
  • they have one version that does umts bands 1, 4, and 8 and another version that does bands 1, 2, and 8. I... : Cheeziologist
• I was looking at that for the ATT network... it is really not worth it to pay $500+ and then have to be $... : c_man_tmt
• I didn't know Canada condoned human trafficking. : hbalce1
• Fuck Rogers. If WIND Mobile gets the iPhone, I'm so there. : Rice-Rocketeer
• protip: the Nexus One should work with Bell and Telus too, guys. they both use the same 3G bands as Roge... : Postal
• Hopefully then someone will buy it : jonin

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• Chuck has been so awesome this season. Last nights episode was extremely awesome and will change a lo... : pancake humper
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  what channel is that on? : Lawgiver
  • NBC : pancake humper
• Yes, it was awesome, as always. Crazy shit though, interested to see how it plays out. : derelict515
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  John Casey better not be going anywhere. Well, not true. If he's given his own show, I would support it. : theangrywaffles
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    They're approaching the end of their original 13 episode arc, so a lot of these episodes were filmed befo... : Ellissd
    • There's a guy on SA who works on NBC's set as a tour guide/media and he said (upcoming episodes spoilers! : intangir21
• Started watching it a couple of weeks ago and I'm hooked. Working my way through the second season at the... : Inadrys
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  They should make Kristin Kreuk a regular. : Edges
  • No. : g0nk
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    God she's so hot. She was just as hot in Smallville, too. : Matt Burris
    • she may be hot, but she has the acting talent of a brick. : g0nk
  • I always liked her. Even going back to her Smallville days. I guess her character was shit, but there's w... : Ellissd
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  Chuck has been one of my favorite shows the last few years, everything about it just amazing. Last n : intangir21
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    I want to know if the drug Chuck took will permanently neuter his emotions. I hope it did. : theangrywaffles
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      They specifically said that's what it did I thought. : pancake humper
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        not permanently, he was back to his old self pretty shortly. What kind of pill has permanent effects afte : derelict515
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          The super secret stored on the 15th-level of an ultra secure CIA vault type. : theangrywaffles
          • heh, well they'd never make it permanent anyway, that would completely change the show : derelict515
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          Pretty sure he was forcing those emotions : pancake humper
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            that wasn't my impression, as soon as he saw Sarah he snapped out of it and realized what he was doing, s : derelict515
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              holy shit. it was all part of his final test. Next episode they are going to reveal the placebo and wa : pancake humper
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                It's possible I guess, but I don't buy it. Beckman didn't know Casey would steal it in the first place, t : derelict515
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                  God I love this show : pancake humper
                  • yeah =D : derelict515
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        I think it was a one time event. I'm irritated though, because it showed that the 'power of love' can bre : theangrywaffles
        • hopefully their way of ending it is more like following through on the end of season 2 at the end of this : derelict515
      • No, it was definitely short term, I think that was part of the point of Sarah coming in just as Chuck was : intangir21
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    this whole season has been darker, but it isn't like torture hasn't come up plenty of times before : derelict515
    • That's true, heck just last week with Morgan but it's usually the bad guys and saying that Beckman and th : intangir21
  • sorry about before, new to shack and didnt know about the tags now i do! :) : Raydeus
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  I was in the first 2 seasons, but I fell behind and haven't seen the current season. Good show with decen... : Fred Garvin
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    Get back on the train, it's awesome : derelict515
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      more specifically they actually had a joke last night that L4D2 should've been an expansion pack, lol : derelict515
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        Really? lol I must have missed that one. : Arctic Fox
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          It was in the background. Morgan was talking to a customer about it. : pancake humper
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            Apparently Chuck and Morgan ad-lib a lot of the video game references since they are huuuuuge nerds. : Arctic Fox
            • Chuck was on the Jace Hall show. He's a huge gamer. : pancake humper
    • I will for sure now that Big Love is done. : Fred Garvin
  • Dude, seriously, get back into the show. The new season is the best yet. : Matt Burris
  • Same thing with me. : MacemanInTW