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  I kinda like how no one talks on the Pc version of street fighter. Four emoticons are enough for me. : Boxelder
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    That was the one thing I was wondering during the whole story: why not limit down the level of interactio... : the archvile
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      I think you should hang yourself : R@zzle
      • Wait, I can do this too! What the fuck kind of name is R@zzle? You some kind of faggot? Go suck a dick : Dong Patrol
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      If you want to play the game without interaction then you can mute it. The presence of communication is k... : Zek
      • Pretty much. I have pretty thick skin so I'd much rather have complete freedom of communication than som... : R@zzle
    • yeah we should just strip our existence down to what the mouth breathers can handle. : chrisschutz
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  systems like XBL, Steam integration and Bnet 2.0 are really the best defense against this. Raising the co... : derelict515
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    Why deter it to begin with? : doozer667
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      Because parents will stop buying Halo for their kids once they find out about this. : Freezerr85
      • Good. More often than not they shouldn't be buying their kids shit like that to begin with. : doozer667
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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPhje8wepyg : doozer667
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        how is this relevant? X-box live isn't a government. : DonkeyPopsicle
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          I'm not offended by these people - just annoyed. They make the games less fun - not offensive. An enjoyab... : tometome
          • well, maybe banned is too much but as donkeyPop put it, somehow making the net experience of players bett... : tometome
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          Those are universities, not government institutions. My point is I don't think you should have written... : doozer667
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            So you think it's totally ok for someone's boss to call them a stupid fag when they mess something up? Th... : derelict515
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              Makes for a good environment? No. That people should have the freedom to say whatever they want? Yes... : doozer667
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                To be more clear with my last sentence because I can't edit the post: Why make a law punishing such ac... : doozer667
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                  That's the whole point of the OP and my original reply. There is no system of punishment right now. In ... : derelict515
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                    One of the reasons I love playing on the PC. Much less of that -especially- on shack-run servers. : LoioshDwaggie
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                      I don't think that's true at all. On the shack servers sure. On pubs? Not at all. CS on PC is pretty much... : derelict515
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                        All the servers I seem to game on have this magical ability to do it. : LoioshDwaggie
                        • I played CS:S for a few hours recently for the first time in forever. It was no better or worse than Halo... : derelict515
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                        I play TF2 on pubs all the time and very seldom do I hear anyone being a real dick on the mic. : Old_Fart
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                          what is the voice com usage on Steam compared to XBL? Are you including people being jackasses in chat on... : derelict515
                          • I don't see a lot of it in typechat either. : Old_Fart
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                    There's really only one striking problem with this though. Why is it that you will leave one offensive s... : doozer667
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                      If you want to play games where the chat reads like the YouTube comments for epic beard man's video then ... : derelict515
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                        I know a few people who talk in a manner that would easily offend you in games, and I know why they do it... : doozer667
                        • turns out there are several types of people out there, and a company has to cater to the majority. For t... : DonkeyPopsicle
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                          You know some shitty people. : Modica Sol Solis
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                            We all do. I don't agree with their actions, but at the same time I think that if they're hosting their ... : doozer667
                            • I know some; I don't call them friend. And so avoid them to avoid the crap they spew. Which just so happe... : Ebu
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                          It's great that your friends enjoy tossing racial slurs around to see who're prudes. You're welcome to do... : derelict515
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                            I already stated before that I don't think it makes for a good environment. I've also stated that I supp... : doozer667
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                              That makes no sense. So a Teen rated game with multiplayer suddenly has no one online slinging racial slurs everywhere? Pretty sure you're 100% wrong there.
                              
                              And the whole point of this discussion is that votekick is insufficient. The culture of online games is fundamentally broken because of anonymity and a lack of consequences. Being votekicked out of a server is not punishment. It amuses these people. Then they move on to the next and ruin someone else's fun, potentially yours again on another server (or after changing names/IPs and rejoining)
                              
                              In a soccer league I don't act like that because you don't say things like that to people face to face. I guarantee a lot of the people doing this online never would act like that in an in person competition. But there're also consequences if they do.

                              Feb 23, 2010 1:40pm PST
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                              That makes no sense. So a Teen rated game with multiplayer suddenly has no one online slinging racial slu... : derelict515
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                                I have no problem with developing games in such a manner as to actually keep these people out of other pe... : doozer667
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                                  You're denying a perfectly reasonable solution because you ask the impossible. A 14-15 year old is a kid,... : derelict515
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                                    My only reasoning for fighting against such wide scale policies is the stance that it starts a snowball e... : doozer667
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                                      Oh, and teenagers are called teenagers because they're not quite kids any more. They're still young but ... : doozer667
                                      • Regardless of semantics, simple experience shows this isn't the case. You seem to be vastly overestimatin... : derelict515
                                    • What's being proposed here is really no more draconian than any other league or community. I don't think ... : derelict515
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            why? If you're trying to design a game experience, you want it to be the best for most number of people.... : DonkeyPopsicle
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              I guess the thing I'm trying to get at is that I'm not necessarily against banning people who speak offen... : doozer667
              • But the playerbase has spoken. No one enjoys that experience. But we have no recourse. At best I can vote... : derelict515
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      is this a serious question? : derelict515
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        Yes, it's a serious question and my opinion is further argued through the video i just linked. : doozer667
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          When I sign up to play intramural soccer in a local adult league should I expect to be assaulted with rac... : derelict515
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            I believe that the teams themselves should be responsible for who they recruit. It's up to them if they'... : doozer667
            • X-Box Live is not a government, it's a really big team. : Zek
          • A bunch of my friends/colleagues from work like to participate in a bi-monthly event we run called RACE W... : jim bone
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      because playing with dickbags is less fun than playing without dickbags. : DonkeyPopsicle
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        So ban them all right? : doozer667
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          if a company can figure out how to increase net enjoyment of all players, by all means yes. : DonkeyPopsicle
          • and, of course, banning isn't the only option, but it is one that can be reasonably considered. : DonkeyPopsicle
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    I say go beyond this. We have credit agencies that monitor and report on your financial trustworthiness ... : GloriousCow
    • This is the best idea to ever come from this website, or perhaps all of civilization. I am going to start... : NexusOne
    • Dude... awesome. I want this... this needs to happen! : Gwyndion
    • GloriousCow for king! : SnakeIRye
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  I think racism is hilarious. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • Yeah we know. : dognose
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  one of my most distinct memories of Halo 3 is listening to a ten year old kid call me a faggot and tell m... : biskits
  • lol! : Godhatesfatpeople
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    someone should spin this to force microsoft to take action. Hidden XBOX Live Danger: Are Pedophiles u... : GloriousCow
    • haha : Godhatesfatpeople
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      IIRC they were working on a voice chat tech that would bleep expletives. : Sailor of Fortune
      • we would just invent new ones : biskits
      • I'd love to see the tech that bleeps cuntniggerballs. : ArcKnight
  • ahahaha. : Ellissd
  • Are you and did you? : SiW.
  • this is actually mentioned in the Xbox Live terms and conditions : niceguynick
• muting functions have become incredibly easy. MUTE. MUUUUTTTEEEEEEEEEEEE : Downforce
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  The first network that successfully figures out how to seperate jerks from non-jerks will be my multiplay... : PointlesS76
  • why can we plan to separate people digitally but not on airplanes : Downforce
  • I will only play online games with Shackers, so the worst I deal with is Maddog complimenting my mom. : dognose
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    http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/ unfortunately this law is universal : c0bra
    • but we can remove the anonymity part via XBL, Steam, Bnet 2.0, etc. If getting votekicked from 50 CS game... : derelict515
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      Holy fucking shit, that comic is 6 years old?! I remember reading PA for years before seeing that. Good G... : Creepin_Jeezus
      • I've been reading PA since I was in 8th grade - I'm 23 now. It's crazy how much the art has grown. : ArcKnight
• some day there will be voice recognition software built into combat this : NukemFornever
• man...npr is boring. lots of hot air. : crypt420
• I am highly offended by everything everywhere! Please stop! You're making me cry! : Grimmadog
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  I laugh at anyone who takes what they hear when playing online games seriously. As long as people play on... : Techy007
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    I laugh at anyone who thinks this is just about people being offended by some words and that there's no s... : derelict515
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      There really isn't. Other than using the tools and options already given to you by developers. : Godhatesfatpeople
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        I've talked about solutions in this very thread. Blizzard has talked about the same concepts in regard to... : derelict515
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          Talked isn't the same as working. Mute/bans are your best bet. : Godhatesfatpeople
          • The systems are in place already if the policies were enacted. XBL and Steam are already systems which co... : derelict515
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      Do you really think you can put the cap on millions of online players who sit behind a computer screen th... : Techy007
      • If the consequence of repeatedly racist behavior is a blanket ban across all games on a service instead o... : derelict515
  • i don't take it seriously, but it sure gets fucking old : FrayLo
• Maybe it was how I was raised, but I was kind of shocked to hear how common racist comments were on WoW v... : Ellissd
• Unless you are playing with shackers and/or other people you actually know, I don't see any reason to hav... : freakynipples69
• Thanks for the link archville. Great job by Siegel and Bakalar trying to explain a complex situation i... : bashildy@speakeasy.net
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  I know it was a pretty short interview, but it seemed kinda obvious. "So people say bad things on the ... : slax0r
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    We weren't the intended audience. The point of the interview was to explain online communities in a shor... : bashildy@speakeasy.net
    • Yeah. Working in that area of customer support, I just a feeling reading that article that I'd imagine a... : slax0r
• Add a for-pay (enough to cover the cost) professionally moderated voice "network". Record all conversati... : yakz