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  I kinda like how no one talks on the Pc version of street fighter. Four emoticons are enough for me. : Boxelder
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    That was the one thing I was wondering during the whole story: why not limit down the level of interactio... : the archvile
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      I think you should hang yourself : R@zzle
      • Wait, I can do this too! What the fuck kind of name is R@zzle? You some kind of faggot? Go suck a dick : Dong Patrol
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      If you want to play the game without interaction then you can mute it. The presence of communication is k... : Zek
      • Pretty much. I have pretty thick skin so I'd much rather have complete freedom of communication than som... : R@zzle
    • yeah we should just strip our existence down to what the mouth breathers can handle. : chrisschutz
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  systems like XBL, Steam integration and Bnet 2.0 are really the best defense against this. Raising the co... : derelict515
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    Why deter it to begin with? : doozer667
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      Because parents will stop buying Halo for their kids once they find out about this. : Freezerr85
      • Good. More often than not they shouldn't be buying their kids shit like that to begin with. : doozer667
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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPhje8wepyg : doozer667
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        how is this relevant? X-box live isn't a government. : DonkeyPopsicle
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          I'm not offended by these people - just annoyed. They make the games less fun - not offensive. An enjoyab... : tometome
          • well, maybe banned is too much but as donkeyPop put it, somehow making the net experience of players bett... : tometome
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          Those are universities, not government institutions. My point is I don't think you should have written... : doozer667
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            So you think it's totally ok for someone's boss to call them a stupid fag when they mess something up? Th... : derelict515
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              Makes for a good environment? No. That people should have the freedom to say whatever they want? Yes... : doozer667
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                To be more clear with my last sentence because I can't edit the post: Why make a law punishing such ac... : doozer667
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                  That's the whole point of the OP and my original reply. There is no system of punishment right now.
                  
                  In the job world I have lots of other jobs to apply to and that company will miss out on talent and likely fail/be sued. In the sports world there are other leagues that are more friendly and the leagues with no rules likely won't succeed in generating revenue. In gaming there's no punishment right now. I can say whatever I want because it's anonymous, there's no physical presence, and there's no punishment system besides a votekick. If I leave the server with obnoxious people I'm just as likely to find someone doing the same thing elsewhere. That's unpleasant and doesn't entice me to buy more games, much like the soccer league would make me stop playing soccer if the no rules league was the only option. There is no 'be nice' league for games where people get permanently removed for breaking accepted social norms. That's what these systems have a chance to solve by creating real repurcussions for ruining someone's fun purely to be an asshole.

                  Feb 23, 2010 1:11pm PST
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                  That's the whole point of the OP and my original reply. There is no system of punishment right now. In ... : derelict515
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                    One of the reasons I love playing on the PC. Much less of that -especially- on shack-run servers. : LoioshDwaggie
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                      I don't think that's true at all. On the shack servers sure. On pubs? Not at all. CS on PC is pretty much... : derelict515
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                        All the servers I seem to game on have this magical ability to do it. : LoioshDwaggie
                        • I played CS:S for a few hours recently for the first time in forever. It was no better or worse than Halo... : derelict515
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                        I play TF2 on pubs all the time and very seldom do I hear anyone being a real dick on the mic. : Old_Fart
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                          what is the voice com usage on Steam compared to XBL? Are you including people being jackasses in chat on... : derelict515
                          • I don't see a lot of it in typechat either. : Old_Fart
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                    There's really only one striking problem with this though. Why is it that you will leave one offensive s... : doozer667
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                      If you want to play games where the chat reads like the YouTube comments for epic beard man's video then ... : derelict515
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                        I know a few people who talk in a manner that would easily offend you in games, and I know why they do it... : doozer667
                        • turns out there are several types of people out there, and a company has to cater to the majority. For t... : DonkeyPopsicle
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                          You know some shitty people. : Modica Sol Solis
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                            We all do. I don't agree with their actions, but at the same time I think that if they're hosting their ... : doozer667
                            • I know some; I don't call them friend. And so avoid them to avoid the crap they spew. Which just so happe... : Ebu
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                          It's great that your friends enjoy tossing racial slurs around to see who're prudes. You're welcome to do... : derelict515
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                            I already stated before that I don't think it makes for a good environment. I've also stated that I supp... : doozer667
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                              That makes no sense. So a Teen rated game with multiplayer suddenly has no one online slinging racial slu... : derelict515
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                                I have no problem with developing games in such a manner as to actually keep these people out of other pe... : doozer667
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                                  You're denying a perfectly reasonable solution because you ask the impossible. A 14-15 year old is a kid,... : derelict515
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                                    My only reasoning for fighting against such wide scale policies is the stance that it starts a snowball e... : doozer667
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                                      Oh, and teenagers are called teenagers because they're not quite kids any more. They're still young but ... : doozer667
                                      • Regardless of semantics, simple experience shows this isn't the case. You seem to be vastly overestimatin... : derelict515
                                    • What's being proposed here is really no more draconian than any other league or community. I don't think ... : derelict515
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            why? If you're trying to design a game experience, you want it to be the best for most number of people.... : DonkeyPopsicle
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              I guess the thing I'm trying to get at is that I'm not necessarily against banning people who speak offen... : doozer667
              • But the playerbase has spoken. No one enjoys that experience. But we have no recourse. At best I can vote... : derelict515
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      is this a serious question? : derelict515
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        Yes, it's a serious question and my opinion is further argued through the video i just linked. : doozer667
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          When I sign up to play intramural soccer in a local adult league should I expect to be assaulted with rac... : derelict515
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            I believe that the teams themselves should be responsible for who they recruit. It's up to them if they'... : doozer667
            • X-Box Live is not a government, it's a really big team. : Zek
          • A bunch of my friends/colleagues from work like to participate in a bi-monthly event we run called RACE W... : jim bone
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      because playing with dickbags is less fun than playing without dickbags. : DonkeyPopsicle
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        So ban them all right? : doozer667
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          if a company can figure out how to increase net enjoyment of all players, by all means yes. : DonkeyPopsicle
          • and, of course, banning isn't the only option, but it is one that can be reasonably considered. : DonkeyPopsicle
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    I say go beyond this. We have credit agencies that monitor and report on your financial trustworthiness ... : GloriousCow
    • This is the best idea to ever come from this website, or perhaps all of civilization. I am going to start... : NexusOne
    • Dude... awesome. I want this... this needs to happen! : Gwyndion
    • GloriousCow for king! : SnakeIRye
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  I think racism is hilarious. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • Yeah we know. : dognose
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  one of my most distinct memories of Halo 3 is listening to a ten year old kid call me a faggot and tell m... : biskits
  • lol! : Godhatesfatpeople
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    someone should spin this to force microsoft to take action. Hidden XBOX Live Danger: Are Pedophiles u... : GloriousCow
    • haha : Godhatesfatpeople
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      IIRC they were working on a voice chat tech that would bleep expletives. : Sailor of Fortune
      • we would just invent new ones : biskits
      • I'd love to see the tech that bleeps cuntniggerballs. : ArcKnight
  • ahahaha. : Ellissd
  • Are you and did you? : SiW.
  • this is actually mentioned in the Xbox Live terms and conditions : niceguynick
• muting functions have become incredibly easy. MUTE. MUUUUTTTEEEEEEEEEEEE : Downforce
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  The first network that successfully figures out how to seperate jerks from non-jerks will be my multiplay... : PointlesS76
  • why can we plan to separate people digitally but not on airplanes : Downforce
  • I will only play online games with Shackers, so the worst I deal with is Maddog complimenting my mom. : dognose
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    http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/ unfortunately this law is universal : c0bra
    • but we can remove the anonymity part via XBL, Steam, Bnet 2.0, etc. If getting votekicked from 50 CS game... : derelict515
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      Holy fucking shit, that comic is 6 years old?! I remember reading PA for years before seeing that. Good G... : Creepin_Jeezus
      • I've been reading PA since I was in 8th grade - I'm 23 now. It's crazy how much the art has grown. : ArcKnight
• some day there will be voice recognition software built into combat this : NukemFornever
• man...npr is boring. lots of hot air. : crypt420
• I am highly offended by everything everywhere! Please stop! You're making me cry! : Grimmadog
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  I laugh at anyone who takes what they hear when playing online games seriously. As long as people play on... : Techy007
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    I laugh at anyone who thinks this is just about people being offended by some words and that there's no s... : derelict515
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      There really isn't. Other than using the tools and options already given to you by developers. : Godhatesfatpeople
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        I've talked about solutions in this very thread. Blizzard has talked about the same concepts in regard to... : derelict515
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          Talked isn't the same as working. Mute/bans are your best bet. : Godhatesfatpeople
          • The systems are in place already if the policies were enacted. XBL and Steam are already systems which co... : derelict515
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      Do you really think you can put the cap on millions of online players who sit behind a computer screen th... : Techy007
      • If the consequence of repeatedly racist behavior is a blanket ban across all games on a service instead o... : derelict515
  • i don't take it seriously, but it sure gets fucking old : FrayLo
• Maybe it was how I was raised, but I was kind of shocked to hear how common racist comments were on WoW v... : Ellissd
• Unless you are playing with shackers and/or other people you actually know, I don't see any reason to hav... : freakynipples69
• Thanks for the link archville. Great job by Siegel and Bakalar trying to explain a complex situation i... : bashildy@speakeasy.net
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  I know it was a pretty short interview, but it seemed kinda obvious. "So people say bad things on the ... : slax0r
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    We weren't the intended audience. The point of the interview was to explain online communities in a shor... : bashildy@speakeasy.net
    • Yeah. Working in that area of customer support, I just a feeling reading that article that I'd imagine a... : slax0r
• Add a for-pay (enough to cover the cost) professionally moderated voice "network". Record all conversati... : yakz