Weekend Discussion: Don't Stop Believin'

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• I hated hated hated the movies (the first three) before I read the books, I had no idea wtf was happening... : dognose
• And yeah you're right with your last sentence. : dognose
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  The movies suffer from the fact that they're trying to include as much as possible from the books to appe... : edgewise
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    Well, that and they keep changing directors. : ArcKnight
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      They should have kept Guillermo. : SnakeIRye
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        Del Toro? He didn't direct any of the HP films. The first two were Chris Columbus, the 3rd was Alfonso ... : action wombmate
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          I would have loved it if they kept Cuaron. Prisoner of Azkaban was done beautifully. : kallanta
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            I'm liking Yates so far, honestly. I thought Order of the Phoenix was one of the best Potters yet. The : action wombmate
            • Have you read the books? There is no more Quidditch because Harry and pals leave school after HBP. : thetangent
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              Order of the Phoenix is my favorite of the films, but I don't think it's the best of them. I agree on ... : kallanta
              • I agree re: movie 7. Especially all the shit with Ron. I mean, seriously, didn't we just go through th : ArcKnight
          • that film was so good it caused me to read the books : Halen
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            Rowling's first choice for director was originally Terry Gilliam. I wonder how he would have done the se... : Maddog_Delphi97
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              hahahhaha. holy that would've been a disaster. : mindmann
              • http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000416/ You might be right. Seems like he hasn't done much directing. Al... : Maddog_Delphi97
    • I wish Columbus had stuck with them. : thetangent
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  The Golden Compass movie was like this for me. I imagine it would have been CRAZY if I had read the book... : Vantage
  • Golden Compass was an unbelievably disappointing adaptation... : kallanta
  • If you had read Northern Lights, you wouldn't have felt like you had understood Golden Compass any more, ... : roushimsx
  • Plus they blew the biggest "aha" of the book series in the first 20 seconds with exposition voice over. : ZombieAcademy
• Did you just badmouth The Police Academy? >:( : sanchez
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  You should read the books. You have no idea how much you're missing. : Ellissd
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    I hated when people told me that before I read them, and now I am one of the people who tells people that... : dognose
    • hah likewise : aurealis
    • Same here. : thetangent
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      Ditto. They really are a lot of fun to read. : kallanta
      • They are The Godfather Movies of books, in that everyone wants you to watch them even though you don't fu... : dognose
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    I actually tried reading Sorcerer's Stone at one time. I got maybe a hundred pages in before I quit. It w... : skinlab133
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      the first two were kids books, and had the same plot. They got significantly better with #3. : Clay
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        I've also heard this a million times :) : skinlab133
        • Have you seen the first two movies? If so, and if you feel like you just can't get through the first two ... : thetangent
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  In fairness, the 6th film was a mess even if you HAVE read the book... : kallanta
  • Yeah I haven't even bought the DVD. That reminds me I need to go and buy Saw VI now. : dognose
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    Bullshit. It made perfect sense and was a solid adaptation. : Wisp!
    • No, it was crap. : Magus
• I can't even imagine watching the movies without reading the books, I basically have to fill in all the g... : aethyr
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  The 1st 4 were followable. The 5th was when it started to get messed up. And like you said, the 6th had s... : lpearl
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    No the fourth movie is the prime example. It's a complete clusterfuck and can't find itself until the las... : graceofdragons
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      ^^^ It was watching this when I suddenly realized that I had no clue what the fuck was going on. I don't ... : skinlab133
      • Yes. A competition for a trophy. What a novel idea for a book...people never do this in real life. : Wisp!
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  Trying to cram a book that is larger than the entire LoTR trilogy into a 2 hour film doesn't quite work. : bipolar
  • wait...what? Is it really bigger than the LOTR trilogy? I didn't think it was that large. I read it in... : Galadriel07
  • Have you actually read the LoTR trilogy? : Clay
• Sadly ever since Goblet of Fire the movies stopped trying to make sense on their own and started becoming... : Xevo
• Thank god the last book is being made into two movies. : glio1337
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  i tried reading the first book but i just couldnt get into them. It makes me wonder how kids got into th... : ultramega
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    First 2 books aren't the greatest. Really takes off after that. : bipolar
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      Agreed. ultramega, read through the first two and get into the third (the first two are so short they're ... : thetangent
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        Technically, he could just watch the first 2 movies. They're super-faithful. : kallanta
        • Yeah, this is true actually. : thetangent
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  The HPB revelation is because Harry fucking HATES Snape. In other words, the hero he'd built the HBP up t : thetangent
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    Yeah, but the movie didn't do well in portraying the obsession Harry had with the HBP that he had in the ... : lpearl
    • I think this is where the failure lies. If it had been as big as it was in the book, the revelation woul... : Galadriel07
• Well the responses here make me feel a lot better. : skinlab133
• The last two books tried too hard to be dark and edgy. The first I like the best for what they were -- ch... : dodob
• Don't blame you, they did a terrible job with almost all the films, six was easily the worst adaptation a... : locater16
• The latest one was the most blatant at this. If you hadn't read the books I have no idea how you'd have ... : mrwolf710
• No, you're not alone. For some stupid reason I keep watching them, but after each and everyone I say the... : gokwyjibo

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• Depends if you enjoy it or not.. I do, so yes. : Demius
• depends on who you ask! : manero
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  Hells yes! You're creating something tangible out of nothing!!! : Dave-A
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    I am envious of English and Business majors. I have to reach into the ether and pull out an idea, and tur... : ArcKnight
    • lol nice modica reference : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      Yes but the English majors will be envious of you when you graduate and can find a job : uglysad
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        http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21365454#itemanchor_21365454 : DrWaffles
        • Yea, I know but I wanted to go for the "what do you do with a b.a. In English" joke : uglysad
        • oh man that post was the biggest load of asscrap i've ever read in shack history : the city
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          Some grade A douchebag replies to that post. Telling a guy who's commented on his depression and alcoholi... : ShekkyBoy
          • That post was grade A douchebaggery and Modica acknowledged it and we moved on. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  I don't know if programming is addictive or not but when I get going on somehing, I only ever really stop... : spiffymc
  • I wish I could do that. I'd have a more secure job position. : Lone Swordsman
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    I hear this, my usual 'small meals every 2-3 hours' goes right out the window when my mind is on somethin... : givemesnacks
    • Yeah I usually find myself at the office, I look at my watch and it's midnight and I haven't eaten for ab... : spiffymc
• Been coding every free minute for 3 weeks, yeah, it gets that way sometimes.. : dextius
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  Have you recently learnt how? : abrasion
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    I don't know if I'd take it that far just yet! : Ellissd
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      Did you have any experience before? I discussed this last night with some mates, I figure it would be ver... : abrasion
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        Actually back in elementary school and early high school, I was kind of obsessed with web development (h... : Ellissd
        • I still have a hard time grasping the idea that the Web existed while people on the Shack were in grade s... : rudds
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        I'm self taught in basic programming. So long as you know your way around computers and have a mostly log... : Arctic Fox
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          I literally know nothing. Can python produce an executable or does it produce a file which needs to be r... : abrasion
          • Yeah, it can produce an executable. EvE online and Civ IV are based on Python at least in part. If you re... : Arctic Fox
• totally : askedrelic
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  When it all works it does. Other times I just throw up my hands and say fuck this. Then I sleep and look ... : PointlesS76
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    yeah, this pretty much. It can frustrate one as much as it can provide joy. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • Take for example what just happened to me: I spent almost a day trying to figure out why a session would ... : Mad Brahmin Disease
• Depends on what I'm programming. If its interesting, and involves solving a challenging problem then yes ... : Toth21
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  Not if you have to generate reports in Excel. From C++. That's what I've been doing today. : GreatGooglyMoogly
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    You can call managed DLLs from native code, so why not do the COM horror in C# or VB.net and then write a... : yakz
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      Yeah. Sadly I'm the only programmer at work who knows .NET/C# so that's not an option right now, or I wou... : GreatGooglyMoogly
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        I think I'll test-drive this, and if it's any good, demand to use it instead; http://www.libxl.com/ : GreatGooglyMoogly
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          uh Supports Excel 97-2003 binary formats dead in the water, i'd think? : yakz
          • Most of our customers will be using Excel 2003 for many years to come, I'm sure. Right now we're forcing ... : GreatGooglyMoogly
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            I don't know what exactly you're doing in Excel, but shit -- I hope you're not doing crap from C++ where ... : ThomW
            • yeah that sounds insane. i'm happy i haven't needed to do anything more than .CSV for Excel and .RTF for... : electroly
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        Your work is wasting a fucking epic amount of time (i.e. money) writing COM-anything in C++ : yakz
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          Yep. The higher-ups have finally realised this so we're going to go the .NET route soon, when the others ... : GreatGooglyMoogly
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            I never had a problem programming for Crystal Reports / Xcelsius. Generate the Excel spreadsheet in VB an... : ateam311
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              ps I'm sorry you're having to deal with C++ :( : ateam311
              • Aw C++ is fun. BOOST shared pointers are your friend! : rick
  • Protip: export as XML. I knocked up code to generate simple reports just using a streamwriter and making ... : Pandilex
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  When the client wants VB6 add-ins updated for the current version of AutoCAD, nope. Rebuild them on a mod : yakz
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    Fuck VBanything. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • +1 : Madwacker
  • i.e. using and debugging on old horrifically poorly designed platforms is hell. : yakz
  • That completely sucks. : steauengeglase
  • VB6 must die. And I feel you pain, that is one shite project. : master_disaster_17
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  depends what you're programming : Clay
  • ^^^^^^^^^^ : yakz
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  It can be, if can also suck ass. : c0bra
  • I feel this is my general experience. : shirif
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  Hated every time I attempted to learn it. : pres589
  • When you get down and do it, it is a mixed bag. On one hand it is incredibly rewarding when you realize t... : steauengeglase
• It can be. If I'm working on something interesting I can completely lose track of time. However, in the r... : StuMan1337
• So is masturbation. No fap pack be damned. : TwiLyght
• creating stuff is addictive. that includes welding, writing music, and also programming. : biskits
• So if coffee. man i dunno how many cups of that shit I drink per day : theghostofsmdever
• until something that should work doesn't because of some bug in code you don't have any control over. The... : peter
• I admit, it can take a good kick in the ass to get me going on a project but once I get started, it's har... : freakynipples69
• it's nice if you're working on your own personal projects, particularly when writing new features, but ma... : electroly
• Programming is awesome until some new update breaks all your code. Then you lose interest when nothing w... : DHAvatar
• I'm learning Objective C right now and it's pretty fun. Like Apple, though, a few things in this language... : reelbk
• yes until you get sick of it, then it's never fun again and you have to change professions to escape it : itsjames
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  programming assembly language is not fun ): : Jikim
  • Those were my favorite classes. Even with the insanely kludgy 8086 memory management it was fun. It's s... : LilCrypto
  • i had fun in the small handful of assembly classes i took. we used a simple arch though (MIPS R2000) whi... : electroly
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    thing is, our professor is not the best at teaching and his lectures are so incoherent half the class sho... : Jikim
    • It's unfortunate but if you want to learn languages, you're generally better off with a technical school.... : LilCrypto
  • I strongly disagree. : ieGod
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  any creative activity can be addictive :D : GloriousCow
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    ^^ this man knows what he is talking about. I am a artist and my medium is code (not that I code much any... : spiffymc
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      sup capn spiffles : GloriousCow
      • Hey gc. I was going to msg you today but I had to run out. Starting a movie (stupid previews) I'll msg yo... : spiffymc
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  Programming sob story :( I started programming when I was 10 years old. My Uncle Brad, who was my "com... : David Craddock
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    I know what you mean. The more programming I do for my classes, the more I realize that I don't really wa... : WaterSign
    • I figured out in university that I like designing programs more than I enjoy programming itself. If I'm n... : Shai-Tan
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    I am going to try and shy away from any of the game programming classes, I've already figured out thats n... : Demius
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      Career wise? I'm a writer. I love it. It's not just what I do, it's who I am. :) Of course, right now the... : David Craddock
      • maybe you could write for some website or something : GloriousCow
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    sorry you were surrounded by idiots? : dextius
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      The teachers, not the students. They went to school expecting to learn -- imagine that. : David Craddock
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        To be fair, a game like Half-Life 2 doesn't come along all that often. : BlackCat9
        • i'm sure theres a thread here somewhere by a teacher bragging about making his student teach his class wh... : aurealis
  • oh you guys would have loved the days of 286's running Turbo Basic : peter
  • You must have had a bad luck on getting teachers. At my uni the professors do teach, but their teaching m... : Jikim
  • Just curious, what college did you go to? : TheIneffableBob
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    This is a long post; does it end with Uncle Brad raping you? : rosewood
    • I don't know why I found this so funny, but I did. : spazzium
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    Pretty interesting! I had a similar experience in college, and also took a "Game Programming" course in t... : fechols
    • Amusingly, I also won a writing award and had two literature teachers tell me that I was a great writer a... : fechols
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      That's because these professor know nothing about game dev. They read a book, and think they can teach a ... : freakynipples69
      • And yeah, if you're interested in game dev & programming, 95% of the time you have to teach yourself. The... : freakynipples69
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    I'm starting to wonder if its better as a hobby for me as well. I've been working contract jobs at night ... : afrochops
    • If you do anything to excess over time it will stress you out and make you hate it. Even if it's somethi... : randomjgj
  • I don't think I was anywhere as adept as you are (at programming, or writing) but I've had a very similar... : Chunks
  • TL:DR: He programmed constantly since he was a child, took all the programming courses all through high s : famine101
  • Good post, Braddock. I've been thinking a lot about this myself. I'm currently in CS as well without any ... : Marrbe
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    I think that if you had teachers pushing you to write stories at the same pace, you would burn out on tha... : CRasterImage
    • I've been pushed for stories, and have gotten burnt out. But I find that I can only take a break for a da... : David Craddock
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  If you can come up with a good project to work on it's awesome/addictive. sometimes it's hard to get a go... : GoldfishInAJarOfPickles
  • My project at work is awesome so I don't feel the need to code after work anymore. In some ways this mak... : timmie
• ruby -e "print 'penus ' while sleep 0.5" : rick
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  Computer Science majors: how would you rate work difficulty vs school difficulty? I.E. do you find th... : jimmy-buffett
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    Most of the time what you learn in school is irrelevant except giving you a better general understanding ... : rick
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      Not at all. Wether you use the knowledge or not is up to you, but basic algorithm knowledge is useful in ... : terath
      • I would agree with this. I remember I was working on something simple, and I had to brute force the progr... : Demius
      • I guess it depends on the courses you take and where you end up working. : rick
  • Depends on who you end up working for and what you work on for them. There's a lot more db maintenance t... : randomjgj
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    Look for a better job? : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • It pays well and I enjoy it, I'm not complaining about it being easy. : jimmy-buffett
  • As a starting programer, the best part about school was that at the end of the assignment/semester you ne... : bolange
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    Nope, I was not overtrained. Assembly, data structures, design patterns, tons of these things I wish I l... : threeup
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      Who do you work for and what do you do there? If you don't mind me asking? : randomjgj
      • a contractor for sony online, game programmer. : threeup
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    It's less consistent but I'd say it's a bit harder at work. You do spend a huge amount of time where the ... : uncleanmonkey
    • what company do you work for? : Chandler55
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    the programming part isn't whats hard about work. its dealing with managers and marketing. in one breath ... : gyokuro
    • Don't forget spending weeks thinking about the project; questioning what features should and shouldn't be... : steauengeglase
    • Hey at least be happy they asked you when it could be done. Most marketing people and sales guys say the... : riptyde
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    There are plenty of extremely challenging programming jobs out there. : mockery
    • Oh I don't doubt that at all, somebody has to write OS's and compilers, but I'm guessing that there are m... : jimmy-buffett
  • I work on stuff that is intellectually stimulating and challenging every day. We just shipped a from the ... : Yanks
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  When I was writing punters for AOL and cracks to hide the NetZero window, yes, now writing cognitive psyc... : acidnynex
  • lol, AOL punters. I remember those. : freakynipples69
  • LOL yeah. Those were the days! before 32bit AOL came along. : ErichTopp
  • I spent so many hours on netzero and freei.com while using the no ad hacks...good old days. : sanchez
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  Programming is addictive because it makes you God of your own little universe. Your computer does exactly... : Micand
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    tell me more about this book : Clay
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      The whole book is only 280 pages. Each of the twelve chapters covers one aspect of computer architecture,... : Micand
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        that sounds pretty awesome, I might pick that up. : Clay
        • Yes it does, tagged for later. : randomjgj
  • Sounds like a great book to go through. : freakynipples69
• yeah it is, as long as its not related to my work, I'm seriously considering quitting my job and investin... : hanged_man
• Programming is super addictive and I love doing it. If it wasn't for my rampant computer game addiction, ... : NinjaRedbeard
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  The only thing I ever learned to program (and this was almost 2 decades ago) was qBasic and HTML. I coul... : valael
  • nobody programs html : skryte
  • If you want something to learn in your spare time, do the online Python course I link here http://www.sha... : Arctic Fox
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  I have not programmed in 10 years. For me it was not worth it financially. However, when I did, I would... : TheArtMan
  • Not worth it financially? Lots of software devs get paid pretty decently. Unless not-worth-it to you is a... : rick
  • what the hell? Programming pays fairly well full time and great in contract. I'm thinking of going to bac... : filthysock
• WoW is too : yosan
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  wheres the best place to start? i saw the subthread with the python course, that looks like a good optio... : aurealis
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    Yeah, I'd start with python. There's a great intro to computer science textbook using python written by s... : freakynipples69
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      Also, you have any inclination on what you'd want to do? Game programming, general software engineering, ... : freakynipples69
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        thanks for the link there. what do i want to do? thats a hard question to answer without fully realizin... : aurealis
        • Yes, start with small, console programs to grasp the fundamentals. First figure out if you'll like progra... : freakynipples69
    • http://www.amazon.com/Python-Programming-Introduction-Computer-Science/dp/1887902996/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s... : freakynipples69
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    My wife was curious and looking for a starting point. I started her off with Javascript but the lack of ... : trevis
    • this looks like a great book, thanks! : aurealis
    • I've been reading this book. http://www.amazon.com/Head-First-Java-Kathy-Sierra/dp/0596009208/ref=sr_1... : TheIneffableBob
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    I started with PHP. You can see results very quickly that way and see how code comes together. You'll w... : Omning
    • awesome i've been hunting for a good beginners guide to php and this is easily the best i've seen! thank... : aurealis
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      I wouldn't suggest PHP because it doesn't really teach you about proper fundamentals, the language is wea... : Yanks
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        so something like C++ or VB? : aurealis
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          (i have no idea what i'm talking about) : aurealis
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            Just try Python, it's a really nice language. It's simple, well-designed, runs everywhere, has lots of us... : jcupitt
            • done. : aurealis
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              Yeah, it really seems like an awesome language. My schools CS curriculum has been changed from Java to Py... : Yanks
              • I hear my old school changed from Scheme to Java for the introductory programming course. WTF :( I won... : rock elf
• i started programming on the c64 when I was 9 years old. My goal was to make Ultima 5 before Lord British... : wtf242
• when it doesn't make you want to blow your brains out, yeah : Audhuml4
• i find it very fun as a hobby but i dont think id like it as a career (which is why i stayed away from CS... : ninjase

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  It would be a shame if some dodgy politically motivated climate science caused people to doubt the more t... : trove
  • Meh, I think they're just losing faith in the high priests of this particular debacle. The best defense ... : TheMongbat
  • I think you need to consider your own political motivations. : vigilante
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    That's such bullshit trove. It wasn't poltically motivated until Al Gore made a movie about it and the R... : grendel
    • How so? : TheMongbat
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  Oh, hey, listen. I already posted below, but I gotta tell you, that guy from Texas A&M isn't helping his... : TheMongbat
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    so angry, and so wrong, you are : NexusOne
    • How, and how? : TheMongbat
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    The productive classes? Jesus H. Christ. Without those guys living on grant money, the "productive clas... : Vantage
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      I wouldn't mind dying at age 35. We're talking about fabrics, right? : Dong Patrol
      • Yup - it's the next step on the industrial ladder after pin-making. Followed by Black Lung. : mockery
      • That would be dyeing. : grendel
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      it's difficult to accept that most of the public doesn't appreciate what impact scientific research has h... : the city
      • The productive classes include researchers in private industry. Care to try again, this time assailing t... : TheMongbat
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      More like living under a thatch roof and marrying your first cousin. : SpaecKow
      • More like living under a thatch roof in a cave and marrying your first cousin mother. : mem
    • He's talking about paladins and shamans. : Marrbe
    • The productive classes include the research divisions of the private sector. Would you like to compare ... : TheMongbat
  • Did you really just say "the productive classes"? : Conan
  • What is it that you are saying is utter bullshit exactly? Global warming? : phipple
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    Hi, scientist here. We reach consensus on things all the time as part of that social activity called sci... : Ovate
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      the first two, especially evolution, have pretty long histories behind them, there's significantly less r... : Herman Toothrot
      • I haven't researched it myself, but from what I understand, it's pretty damn clear the earth is heating. ... : terath
      • Global warming due to CO2 has been seriously investigated since the 60s, so there's 40 - 50 years of work... : jcupitt
      • I tend to believe that if the evidence was strong they wouldn't "lose" it or make it up whole cloth. : TheMongbat
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    Like you care about the "World" watching. If you bothered to read anything, including the link in the or... : grendel
    • Grendel, he's one of the 'productive classes,' he doesn't have time to think about these things. : the city
    • It's like you're holding up a mirror to yourself, dude. When you woke up the next morning, did you remem... : TheMongbat
  • LOL. Nothing else worth saying to you. : terath
  • Nice hit and run dude. : Whistler77
  • Science is shit? NO PROBLEM! Off you go to some remote unpopulated pacific island, there you can have wha... : SpaecKow
  • which page on conservapedia is this copy+pasted from? : stamps
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    Why not find out something about a subject before making a post? : jcupitt
    • Or just not post! : SpaecKow
  • Crush the Intellectuals! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Destroy_old_world.jpg : MeenMunky
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    oh so this is why I don't shack 24/7 : Megara9
    • Unfortunately for us down under this is prime shacktime. : dafugg
• This is why we need to start enacting laws that hold news agencies accountable for some of the stuff that... : cetra00
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  Ugh, reminds me to much of Anathem. "Thanks guys but now that we've got all we need we're going to kill y... : locater16
  • Hey, watch what you're talking about there. Seriously, if I were to have access to a Holodeck or somet... : famine101
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  That seems a little dramatic, but I'm not saying it's untrue. I guess I just don't see how anyone could "... : phipple
  • people doubt science all the time, alternative medicine is absolutely huge in some areas, i've noticed it... : Herman Toothrot
  • It's not that they doubt science per se, it's that they believe some alternate theory presented by (usual... : Kniggit
  • "faith in science" Que? : Marrbe
• Chicken Little, "The Sky is Falling". : TheVietSpecial
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  Great, so global warming debate = all of science : TabsAZ
  • IT'S ALL A BUNCHA TEST TUBES N FIZZY BUBBLES ANYWAY AIN'T IT : the city
  • If something that has 99.99999% of scientists backing it is perceived as wrong, what says they won't targ : mem
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  Public is stupid. Are your really surprised? : terath
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    This is so sad. The scientific community reacts to the politically motivated global warming debacle by s... : TheMongbat
    • Well, perhaps a touch of vitriol. None of it directed at Shackers, however. Important distinction. : TheMongbat

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  Man what happened to NVidia, They used to be cool : ventro
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    I think the downfall started with the 8 series and all the production line failures. : SolrFlare
    • I liked the 8 series but I thought they started lagging with the 9 series and onward and ATi pretty much ... : Sailor of Fortune
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    I still think this card is more geared toward the HPC market than pc gamer. Explains the design decision... : walker270
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      Really? How many HTPC people need the type of processing that's on this card? What does it offer that oth... : Fred Garvin
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        High Performance Computing. : walker270
        • Doh! Misread that. : Fred Garvin
      • lol... you n00b. : Toraz Chryx
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    what happened to Charlie, just read his news about Fermis software tesselation (he doesn't even know what... : matthaeus
    • Well, it IS a software tessellator in effect, it's not dedicated logic doing the tessellation, it's the s... : Toraz Chryx
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  3dfx is about to happen again : pancake humper
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    Gamers don't want 32bit color, faggot. : lodit
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      T BUFFER IN DA HOUSE : GloriousCow
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        What were they pushing again? depth of field and aa? : lodit
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          I thought it was AA and (poorly implemented) motion blur. : Ajax
          • We were both right, it was motion blur and depth of field. : lodit
    • FUCK IMAGE QUALITY GAMERS WANT SPEED : Ajax
    • GLIDE FTW : Mondo
  • Glideâ„¢ : uncle slappy
  • Motion blur is for pansies. : Matt Burris
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  If only the PC was a strong enough gaming platform to justify this purchase. :( I just can't buy expe... : pigvomit
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    I've went from buying $300 video cards to $200 video cards and now to $130 video cards. The performanc... : mobab
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      Nvidia should give Blizzard gobs of money. If Blizzard adds new effects and graphics to WoW, people will... : pigvomit
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        The problem is right now you only need a 3.5-4 year old card to run damned near everything you want with ... : walker270
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          Problem? lol : lodit
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            Depends on which side of the fence you're on =p : mobab
            • I am on the side of the fence that doesn't want to upgrade every year to play a new game. : lodit
          • From the "necessitating an upgrade" standpoint. From our standpoint it's great, but there isn't much... : walker270
    • ^^^^^ : bolneze
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      This is about where I am at. I'd consider saving up $200 for a new card to play a major new title (Bad Co... : Dr_Cube
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        An 8800GT isn't even limping yet. I can play almost everything at pretty damn high settings at 1650x1080.... : boarder2
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          I haven't even played FO3 yet since it chugs so much on my 9800GTX at 1920x1200 res. DoW2 and BF:BC2 also... : Alco23
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            • I noticed the chugging yesterday during the shackbattle during one intense bit when all 6 teams were in t... : Alco23
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          no offense. but my 5850 is like 5x better than my 8800gt was in ALL Games. : chilln
          • I'm sure it is. : boarder2
        • Really? I'm running most of my stuff @ 1024*768 now on my 8800 GTX because it chugs in everything. : Rice-Rocketeer
    • Here, Here. I adopted this philosophy after getting my 8800's. : Wolfanoz
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    Wacky hypothesis: Not needing it a ridiculously expensive video card makes it a stronger gaming platform. : Chris Remo
    • Woah dude! Mind blown! lol. :) : Alco23
    • Stop making sense asshole. : Hoax
    • Damn, I never thought of that before you are completely right. Head asplodes. : mrwolf710
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  I wouldn't be surprised about if these results are true but Charlie's anti-nvidia style is annoying to re... : Alco23
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    as blatantly anti-nvidia as he is, Charlie has actually hit a few bullseyes lately. : master_disaster_17
    • Well, if you do everything anti-nvidia, you're bound to be right some of the time... : mobab
• I'm gonna wait for this to come out now to make the 5870 cheaper. : Sailor of Fortune
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  Also, the cards themselves wont ship until MAY and more importantly.. No mid level Nvidia cards. "A... : Visceral Monkey
  • haha : megarust32
  • not really, the market is still happy with the gts250 as a photoshop card, and it really still doesn't h... : supaslasha
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  Charlie is such a troll. I rather get my tech info from a seagull. : silaslang
  • Yeah, Charlie fuckin' HATES NVidia...but I think he's right, here. : Rice-Rocketeer
• Uh oh : Dr_Cube
• Sounds like ATi a few generations ago. : melkore
• You know, i'd take this more seriously if it wasn't from charlie. the guys a d-bag, even if hes right occ... : supaslasha
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  There is bad news for people hoping for ATI price drops, if these rumors are true, they wont be happening... : Visceral Monkey
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    Well ATi is releasing a 6-display port + 2GB version of the 5870 March 11th. So it'll be interesting how ... : Alco23
    • I am very interested in 6-display cards for work and I wish they would release it on a lower-end card ins... : Goncyn
  • ATI/AMD could use the money. They earned their profit margins. : Dr_Cube
• Charlie Demerjian post. He may be right but I have to consider the source until official benchmarks co... : Serpico74
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  if only ATI would get off their lazy asses and fix the shit ass drivers for the 5xxx series of cards and ... : Jackass1233
  • I dont have that ever. on my 5850 : chilln
  • RAGE! I'm in this boat too. The performance of my 5870 is fantastic, however, I get vertical lines on W : Goblin au
  • never seen this on my 5970 : Mansmells
  • you're not the only one http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=260&threadid=124747&enterthre... : synapse19
  • Didn't the 10.2's fix this? I have Win 7 64bit with a 5770 and don't get it, never did, despite that b... : Beady
  • No issues here, and I've been on a 5870 + win7 for months now. : Milleh
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  I don't know about this website. It tends to run a ton of very critical articles on Nvidia. http://ww... : Danny5225
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    Yes, but just about every board I've been too today says the same thing: "He's a douchebag who hates Nvid... : Visceral Monkey
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      He's been very wrong numerous times, always during periods when nvidia was doing a good job. The thing is... : Serpico74
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        I don't know much about him, I just searched the other hardware forums to see if anyone had an opinion on... : Visceral Monkey
        • Even a stopped clock gives the right time twice a day: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Sd2iMvYHsg : xlarti
    • if by usually right you mean almost always wrong... : plat2on1
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  I appreciate that ATI got their hardware generation out much earlier than Nvidia, but 5870 level performa... : enyakk
  • The only feature that has extra punch is the tesselation, which Charlie claims is contrived and also due ... : Rice-Rocketeer
  • it sounds bad if they can't make a profit on it at 5870 prices : Goncyn
• Sounds to me like they have the hardware but not the software to make this card awesome. I'm not going... : TheVietSpecial
• After Bumpgate, if these cards really do get that hot at idle, i'm not sure I want anything to do with 'e... : Tech T
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  Charlie has been false so many times... he's just an ATI fed anti Nvidia troll. The only thing he gets ri... : matthaeus
  • he even wrote several times the R600 is better than the G80 lol : matthaeus
• that doesn't sound nearly as grim to me, personally. still, interesting to see what happens. : PlanetPerfecto
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  • The dude is positively vitriolic about NVidia. I wonder if they killed his family, or something. : Rice-Rocketeer
• Voodoo'd : Jimbo Ro
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  I'll be waiting until someone reputable posts benchmarks (HardOCP, Anand, etc) : TabsAZ
  • Agreed. I'm wait for the final product from more reputable sources before making a final judgement. : silverback1138
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  I like how a ~10% slower than expected clock speed is a HUGE MISS but running games ~5% faster than Cypre : Sludgehead
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    The problem is, if reports are to be believed, this card is barely faster in some few specific benchmarks... : bipolar
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      Your statement places much faith in ATI's high yields of superior chips. A tiny fraction of the public a : Sludgehead
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        Well, really, even as a nominal Nvidia fan, there's no doubt they've had yield issues compared to AMD. Yo... : Conan
        • I guess...but there were shortages, that's not really an assumption and yes it's true for both companies.... : Sludgehead
      • ATI *does* have higher yields. Whether it's problematic design by Nvidia or fab problems w/ TSMC (which ... : bipolar
  • On it's own it wouldn't be so bad.. combined with the fact that it'll run VERY hot even at idle and co... : Toraz Chryx
  • 5% speed increase isn't all that much when you're talking about a FPS range of 40-60 FPS. That is 2-3 FP... : deject
• If it sells at the same price. I will buy one. I'd rather have an Nvidia to be honest but I will always g... : razlebol
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  Discrete part market needs to die anyway, let Intel fuddle their way to competent onboard imaging. : SpaecKow
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    So that I have to switch the mainboard to upgrade something? :/ : Johnnsen
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      The idea is really not to have to be upgrading much at all :( : SpaecKow
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        Intel has shown no competence in high end graphics. I'm not okay with that plan. : Conan
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          Well, someone - whatever it is, it has to be cheap, good, and it has to come with the majority of compute... : SpaecKow
          • computers can come with discrete cards :-/ and then they can be upgraded without replacing mobo or cpu. ... : MamiyaOtaru
• I've learned a lesson over time in buying new cards, also in saving money. Wait two to three generations... : Wolfanoz
• I'll believe benchmarks over text. Also, wasn't information for fermi being released today or this week s... : inf3d3l

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  Law Abiding Citizen. I'll never look at a Porterhouse steak the same way again. : pigvomit
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    I thought this movie should have ended with Jamie Foxx shooting Gerard Butler in the face. Like he kept t... : Sovos
    • That's what I thought too. The ending really fucked the movie up. : Gojirah
• raiders of the lost ark. still awesome. : anthonybean
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  ghost dog. wtf there was no ghost. there was a dog at least he was cool : spiderfill
  • Ahhhh. I love the drawing and sheathing of his pistols. And the three dudes talking with no language in c... : AxeMan808
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  I finally got to see Black Dynamite! It was sweet. : SockMonkeh
  • I am sure you mean it was dynamite. : lodit
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    "Uhh, hush up little girls... lots of cats have that name." : siknsyko
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      "I threw that before I came in the room!" : ChibiJosh
      • "I am smiling." : AgentPothead
      • this line absolutely killed me in the theater : dopefish
      • I was gonna post this, but I've already done it a couple of times. : AxeMan808
  • I will shake this poisonous shit out of your smacked-up little body if I have to! : silent prophet
• Edge of Darkness - Good Rambo Blu-ray - Awesomeness The International - Meh : Mad Brahmin Disease
• Saw Moon, it was alright. Catching up on LOST : Navy Spitfire
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  From Russia with Love. it was good! : radula
  • Fucking right. : K1Bond007
• The Hangover, awesome ! : deepburnt
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  Star Trek, not bad at all. : givemesnacks
  • Also watched 2001 all the way through for the first time in a long while, and saw a documentary called It... : givemesnacks
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  How could you not like Zombieland? Especially once Murray showed up? : Conan
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    that was the worst part imo. : GloriousCow
    • gt the fo : rosewood
    • What the fuck is this? : Sink the Pink
    • ur a fag : Godhatesfatpeople
    • You suck. : thetangent
    • Exhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaale : Goblin au
  • I thought zombieland was pretty meh : chrisschutz
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  The Core - only because it's available for streaming on Netflix. It really is horrible and there is cert... : iamgoat
  • the core is one of my favorite terrible movies and the right stuff is one of my favorite historical movie... : Herman Toothrot
• Watched Monsturd, badass in every horrible way and the song during the credits wrapped it all up beautifu... : siknsyko
• Where The Wild Things Are. pointless 1 hour 40 minute indie rock video. : waxthirteen
• Ghostbusters and Superbad on Bluray. Sigorney Weaver in Ghostbusters was so damn hot. : Sailor of Fortune
• Forst/Nixon = Goooood : locater16
• After that lengthy Sci-Fi post, Primer. I had the subtitles and all and my brain still hurts. I read the : caveatemptor
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  saw "let the right on in" that weird swedish vampire-type movie... it was good, but weird. : chilln
  • Great film. This is the way modern vampires should be portrayed IMO, not some crappy shining-in-the-dayli... : Gylis
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  I heard there is a great movie playing in the back of your oven. Make sure you turn it all the way up bef... : rosewood
  • Also I watched the Taking of Pelham 123 and Surrogates, two movies that never reached their full potentia... : rosewood
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  Disney's "Up" -No one told me it was going to be sad. : uglysad
  • Yeah it's really strong, great movie. : davidc02
• Watched District 9 on blu-ray. First time since seeing it at the cinema. I love this movie! : Goblin au
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  District 9! Loved it, being on District 10! : vynn
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    being bring : vynn
    • 10 is so passe. the sequel is District 360 Elite: Prawns of War : spiderfill
• I really wanted to like Zombieland more than I did : dognose
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  The Matrix Trilogy Was funny. : gydot
  • So funny I forgot to laugh. : dognose
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  You are severely broken for not liking Zombieland. That is all I have to say, anything else would just b... : action wombmate
  • i guess you're excited zombieland2 is on its way then : filthysock
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  Zombieland was awesome, WTF is wrong with you? Are you telling me you didn't even laugh at the Bill Murra : thetangent
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    nope it was rock stupid from start to finish : filthysock
    • Why? It had zombies, it had humor, it had Woody Harrelson, and it had Bil Murray playing himself. What's ... : thetangent
• Shutter Island. It was good! though not very subtle. : smax
• Igor (on bluray). It was pretty horribly animated and I kind of got hung up on that :( : jbury
• I love you man, watching Extract now. Had the wife watch American Beauty for the first time and she thoug... : two50six
• Zombieland was AWESOME : Pandilex
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  Pandorum and it's was actually pretty decent, the ending was definitely a surprise, : mrasparagus
  • i thought it started out interesting but then got dumber as it went on and by the time it was over i was ... : skryte
• Zombieland had a few moments but mostly meh. That kid was annoying. : dael
• I agree with you on both movies. : alexpr
• Boyz N The Hood. My wife had never seen it. : crimrOw
• I watched 25th hour. Great flick. : Nitrium
• I hated Zombieland too. Bored me to death and it wasn't funny either. : Johnnsen
• Shutter Island, which I was disappointed in : sexydingo

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• That was awesome. : lpearl
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  "You have to start paying for internet access!" "This is................true" That exchange was just ... : Lionhart32935
  • It's too expensive and she lives in Long Beach. Sure. : BlackCat9
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  I had someone ask why they couldn't get wifi at home since it was setup at the office (40 miles away) : rosewood
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    I got that ALL the time. Or people being mad that I didn't include "the internet" with the laptop I s... : sanchez
    • ^they DIDN'T ask anything... : sanchez
    • i laughed and relayed this story to my wife. She didn't get why it was funny, and thought it was a fair q... : kevp
• Wasn't this last week but about 2 months ago we had a power outage at work. Knocked out most of the campu... : Madwacker
• I don't really know what to say...but it's funny! : Don Vito Corleone
• haha : smax
• "... it wasn't such a dumb question..." : Clay
• ahahaha, that bitch got shut down : inf3d3l
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  The logic here is amazing. It's as if she thinks because someone went a long time with an unsecured wire... : riptyde
  • wifi squatters rights : Clay
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    entitlement is western culture's biggest problem : bamb
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      entitlement attitude? maybe shes a gamer too! : spiderfill
      • Well, how's she supposed to play AC2 on the PC now? : BlackCat9
    • I deserve an apology for that statement. And $4,370 for emotional suffering. : dumb.
    • I don't have to take these kinds of attacks, I'm white : rosewood
• I don't really think this is a "dumbest tech question," it's actually very common. I can understand how t... : sanchez
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  He was very polite overall. Also this reminds of when I was maybe 11 or 12 and first got a computer capa... : Geoffrois
  • I remember trying to set up outlook express on Win95 without being connected to the internet : sanchez
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    Leo is the absolute nicest person on the internet; he can't even sound angry when he's pissed off! :D htt : mn3m0n1c
    • Hahaha. Mike Arrington is such a douche. : zuga
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  Before I clicked the link I knew EXACTLY what this woman would sound like. : grandmasterlee
  • me too : niceguynick
• I know of a woman who signed up for a dial up ISP and never had a modem. True story. : abrasion
• I've had this asked multiple times of me before. : guido anchovy
• Usually when you guys complain about "dumb" questions they aren't so dumb. This is really fucking dumb. : soggybagel
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  i suddenly thought of this old video http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/8/Hilarious-Tech-Support-Call... : aurealis
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    Click on videos http://www.thewebsiteisdown.com/ watch them all, 2 and 4 are brilliant. : skitzo
    • hah awesome i love this shit : aurealis
    • hahah #4 is awesome, how old are these? : gakera
    • Cool if you press stop (on #1 at least) it goes to a fake Unix command line you can play around with. : dumb.
  • This is hilarious : justwr!ght
  • hahaha "You can't arrange them by penis" : OmegaRed59
• Lol. : fsck
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  Leo Laporte is such a pro. Anyone remember him from The Screensavers? So glad he's making tons of money o... : ventro
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    Remember him? I still have this in the pocket of my sketchpad. http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=Pho... : BlackCat9
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      I see your picture and raise you a picture of the whole Screen Savers cast. http://www.shackpics.com/file... : angrytaxman
      • I must be Mario because I just got 1-upped. Well played, angrytaxman. : BlackCat9
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        I'll see your picture and raise you the best nerd group shot ever. http://iamgoat.shackspace.com/bestgrou... : iamgoat
        • Oh yeah, I see that picture and show you this! Okay I have nothing. : soggybagel
      • Somewhere I have a signed pic of the REAL Screen Savers... NEEDS MORE KATE! : heartsauce
  • The Twit network is all I listen to in my car besides some cnet stuff and Adam Carolla. : majestik
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    I still don't know why Tech TV turned into G4. I used to enjoy a few shows, now I dont even know what cha... : bozer
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      TechTV didn't turn into G4, G4 bought out TechTV because the network wasn't doing so well. : Prozium
      • Basically, the higher-ups at TechTV didn't know how to market the shows they were making, so they kept tr... : BlackCat9
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      Remember when msnbc first came on and they had tech shows at night. It had Solidad o'Hottie or whatever h... : ghost in my shell
      • Yeah, it was called The Site. Leo Leporte actually did the voice (and I think even wore the mocap suit) f : Prozium
  • I liked it back when it was Leo and Kate. : guido anchovy
  • yeah his advice in this is spot on and what I tell my clients... pretty slick : sludge vohaul
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  hey guys video games are too expensive so i never would have paid for it anyway so its not stealing if i ... : grendel
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    thanks for shoehorning your agenda into this completely unrelated thread : MrBig0
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      you're right, people refusing to pay for something they are able to obtain for free is totally unrelated : grendel
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        In this case, yes, yes it is. : Conan
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          I thought it was humorous how people were piling on this stupid lady for not realizing she was stealing h... : grendel
          • I see the point you're trying to make, I just don't think it's really a parallel. I don't assume pirates ... : Conan
          • do you have a cross-referenced chart where you can prove it's the same people? Believe it or not, most pe... : Old_Fart
          • I agree with the parallel, in terms of a sense of entitlement by both cases. : CRasterImage
      • BlackCat9 [lol] [inf] [unf] [tag] x Show Full Post Reply What's the dumbest tech support question you've : Old_Fart
• Some people think installing a wireless router means they can get online anywhere in the world. :-( : dealie
• Ahahahaha. Leo LaPorte owns. : Link.
• I don't know where to begin. Lets just say I had...many. : SolrFlare
• I am amazed at how many people think wireless internet is free. : Fred Garvin
• "Now when you got me a new monitor, will all my icons on the desktop disappear?" : strife

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  way to not mention what car you finally bought : zakk
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    http://www.seriousauto.com/daily_drivers/images/P4150049.jpg : guido anchovy
    • Well done sir. : Lightzout
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    BMW 128i with sport package (and premium package but sport suspension was the must. vroom vroom!) : dahanese
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      silver or black? : Dave-A
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        black and black. : dahanese
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          i made that mistake once,granted it looks amazing when clean but during the summer or when you leave it w... : mcpstoner
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            yeah, we had a long talk about getting a grey one (mike hates silver and i don't blame him.) but i HATE t... : dahanese
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              check out the air vent timer in the iDrive (you got iDrive right??). You can set a timer to turn the car... : grandmasterlee
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                nope, no iDrive. i fucking HATE iDrive. multisync and i have been duking it out on IM over this. : dahanese
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                  If you press and hold the BMW button on your key it will roll down your windows and open the sunroof befo... : chrisschutz
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                    haha, seriously? that's awesome. i like the "rest" button. : dahanese
                    • Yep. BMW has so many nice little touches like that. : chrisschutz
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      Welcome to the club! But, a 1? :( You probably bought it from east bay BMW too, didn't you? : sonicstorm
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        i don't get the 1 hate - we wouldn't have bought a 3 - we would have gotten a different kind of car. we r... : dahanese
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          Oh, also, get the all-weather mats if you already haven't. Most dealers will just throw in a set if you a... : sonicstorm
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            yeah, we didn't get mats today because the service area was closed. i didn't want their basic mats anyway... : dahanese
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              Just their standard rubber mats http://accessories.bmwusa.com/ItemView.aspx?modelId=493&categoryId=41&pr... : sonicstorm
              • i never understand why the more durable shit ends up being cheaper. i suppose people think rubber isn't a... : dahanese
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        I don't understand the 1 series. It weighs basically the same as the 3 series, is barely cheaper, and is ... : opengl128
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          from the ones i test drove, the 1 series is lighter than the 3 (which has the same HP) and that made it s... : dahanese
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            The difference between the 128 and 328 coupe is 30-50lbs depending to transmission, based on bmw's site. ... : opengl128
            • 142 pounds, based on the 2 models i wanted. 3329 for the 1, 3471 for the 3. it's that edge of per... : dahanese
    • wonderful choice! : zerog83
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      1 :( : virus
      • don't you have the 230 mercedes? shack search showed yes and i didn't look to see if you specified your t... : dahanese
  • That would ruin the story. : chadg033
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  pics : opengl128
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    it was raining when we brought it home so i only have the ones from the dealer and a really shit one of i... : dahanese
    • very nice :) : Megara9
    • niiice. I love my 1 :D : warpdude
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      looks awesome :D is MyFirst Cybeemer allowed to drive it? : Dave-A
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        it's our car together - we got it as an automatic for him. yeah, that's right. i love him so much i ga... : dahanese
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          does he only have one foot?! : Dave-A
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            'nam :( : mikecyb
            • I never knew |( : rosewood
        • oh wtf, he needs to nut up, what kind of man makes his woman buy an automatic! : opengl128
        • what a gay : Blackdawgg
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          does he not love you enough to learn how to drive stick? that's sad :( : zakk
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            he knows how to drive stick. he wanted an auto! with these hills i don't blame him. : dahanese
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              Stickshifts suck if you live in a hilly area with traffic : Dave-A
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                yeah, I drove stick in San Francisco and that was not cool : redfive
                • Your mistake was to drive a car in San Francisco in the first place. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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              but the manual transmission 1s have hill-start assist! it holds the brake for you if you start on a hill.... : warpdude
              • i did not know that because i never looked in to standard transmission 1-series! my dad's a car nut li... : dahanese
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          your man has been pretending to have a penis : Draugluin
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            oh yeah well then what have I been using to have sex with your mom?!?! EHHHHH??? : mikecyb
            • HER PENIS OBVIOUSLY : Draugluin
        • you know he owes you infinite blowjobs now : Megara9
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          Really mike? Friends do not let friends buy a 1 series :( : creep
          • it's my car too! plus it's pretty much the one I wanted. the 3 is too big : mikecyb
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            seriously - why? is it because you think it's ugly? : dahanese
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              it isnt ugly at all it is just to small of a car when the 3 series seem perfect for its size I compare th... : creep
              • i have actually been reading car forums right now to try and figure out the 1 hate. and i think i get it.... : dahanese
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                3 is too big, I agree with their purchase. : moe6
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                  it's totally up to what people want in life - if i wanted to have a kid, i would never get a 1. : dahanese
                  • the 1 still has a back seat, you are kid approved : gmd
              • get the fuck out of here. you obviously don't know what you're talking about : eeeealmo
              • the 3 series is a bloated pig in before mom jokes : gmd
        • I'm with you, mike. I wish my girlfriend loved me that much. : BlackCat9
        • that's a goddamn shame : Yanks
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          fuck stickshifts for daily drivers. at least if you're in an area with traffic. I'll always know how to ... : epit
          • I do the seattle I5 commute every day in a stick \m/ \m/. It's really not that bad as long as you give a ... : dravalen
          • Yea if my drive was any busier than it is right now it would really suck having a stickshift. : c0bra
          • I drive a manual in northern va traffic, stop being a baby : gmd
        • FUUUUUUUUUUUUuuuuuuuuuuuuuu........... : eeeealmo
        • hahaha : gmd
        • gaaaaaaaaaay : Deathlove
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          I understand, but I hope he tries to learn manual transmission sometime. I was born into a family that h... : the archvile
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            oh he knows how to drive it already. : dahanese
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              So... he just doesn't like driving manual transmission, given his daily driving routine? :-( : the archvile
              • we live in san francisco. i think it's more insane to want to drive stick than not. : dahanese
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          It's like dahanese ILTC's mike without even getting on his account! : MercFox1
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            :[ you are going to make him beat me. : dahanese
            • at Uno? : Deathlove
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          What the... : ateam311
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            Why didn't you just teach him? : ateam311
            • nm reading comprehension 4tw : ateam311
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          lol automatic?? Tell him to finally become a man and learn to drive stick. : Mad Brahmin Disease
          • Gah, he knows how? *head asplodes* : Mad Brahmin Disease
        • what a fuckin sissy. : virus
        • punch his stupid face a couple times : filtersweep
        • LOLLING THIS : askedrelic
        • OMG. Cyber mike is gay? : RogerDandy
    • very nice and nice car payment! : cjcharv
    • congrats, you're going to have fun driving that. : virus
• where are the pics, woman!? : Megara9
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  Why not the 135i? : ant_hillbilly
  • if one had plopped in my lap with everything i wanted, i would have considered it, but basically because ... : dahanese
  • Because at that price point you might as well buy a 370z. : Freon
• Finally. : aggressor
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  Thank god, we're finally done with your terrible car threads. : nyranger66
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    let's talk about your car, New York Ranger 66! : Dave-A
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      I'm sorry. I know that came across as threadshit, but mike and dahanese know that I'm genuinely happy f... : nyranger66
      • honey your shit is always welcome. : dahanese
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  Congrats! I think that you will be really happy. Also, all these people hating on the 1 series have most ... : Morgin
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    if i cared about what people thought when they saw my BMW i'd be another idiot driving a silver 3-series.... : dahanese
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      Hey one of my favorite cars is still the mk1 mr2 and everyone thinks it is lame looking but you know what... : Morgin
      • WHO thinks the AW11 is lame looking?!!?! I WILL FIGHT THEM : eugthinks
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  screw the 1-series haters; I look at it as a "serious" Mini, and that's a compliment given how well the M... : Postal
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    The 1 is about 60% 3. The BMW based on the Mini is coming. http://www.bmwcoop.com/2009/10/08/2011-bmw... : ahk-med
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      what do you mean 60% 3? i don't think it's 40% smaller. the mini is a little less powerful, but it's ... : dahanese
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        I think he means in terms of shared parts and design? I didn't think that was true though : Morgin
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          oh i don't know about parts and stuff. it does have a lot of the same parts internally. : dahanese
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            That is my favorite car fantasy and I just figured out what I like about the 1series I have seen around. ... : Lightzout
            • yeah, the gas mileage is the thing that makes me saddest. but you know what? it's more fucking fun that m... : dahanese
      • 60% common components. : ahk-med
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      I also think the 1 is still too heavy; I'd like to see it below 2900 pounds. : the archvile
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        yeah that is never happening : gmd
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          http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/02/16/bmw-m1-cosmetic-personalization-program/ : eeeealmo
          • that will not be 2900 lbs : gmd
      • RE:M1 : eeeealmo
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    C&D called the 135 "90% of an M3 for 60% of the price", sounds pretty good to me I'm not sure about th... : jimmy-buffett
    • it entirely depends on how you drive. the 135 for most normal driving is not going to give you much more ... : dahanese
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      60% of the price? Funny maths I think. 135i base is only about $5k cheaper than a 335i base. More like... : Freon
      • M3, not 335i. : aggressor
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  Man, forget all these stupidly long subthreads. Congrats. Please don't take up two parking spaces whereve... : ateam311
  • no, i got a nice car, not a license to be a tool. if i'm concerned about parking i'll go to the ass end o... : dahanese
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  Enjoy your new car Dahanese! And don't fret too much once the first scratches appear. It's unavoidable... : enyakk
  • >:-( : dahanese
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    Also, do an advanced safety driving course with your new car - it's fun! : enyakk
    • then go autocross it, at this point you'll be missing that manual though. Theres a 135 that rips it up... : supaslasha
  • be sure that no matter where you park in your parking lot, a mom and her mega SUV will park next to you a... : creep
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  Grats on your new automobile car! I'm thinking about buying a new one when the 2011's come out, have m... : FlatlineDixay
  • i honestly have no idea how i finagled myself such a ridiculous deal. today when we were there to finaliz... : dahanese
• my dream car at the moment would be an Audi A5. its about 15-20k more than i can afford. : grendel
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  I'm strongly looking forward to the "i'm bored of this car" thread in 2-3 years. : soggybagel
  • the sales rep totally tried to ask that question today when i told him i had car ADD. i explained to him ... : dahanese

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  It just won't be the same without 3d. :( : pigvomit
  • Agreed, and with it leaving theaters soon I probably should see it again. : ant_hillbilly
  • Yeah I don't see the point in buying the movie at all. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    Agreed and I don't want 3D at home either! So I'm kinda fucked. : abrasion
    • There's only one option. We become Na'vi. : pigvomit
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    Seeing Avatar in 3D convinced me that I'll never want to see another movie in 3D ever again. I can't wait... : roushimsx
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      Did you go to IMAX or some shitstain little theatre somewhere? : abrasion
      • It wasn't IMAX, but it was a pretty fucking far cry from a shit stain of a theater. Probably one of the n... : roushimsx
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      Sorry you are broken. Some people just can't handle 3D. It was great for me. : Nixx2004
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        this really is tragic. they should build a home for these people so they are well cared for in the coming... : GloriousCow
        • Or gas them. : r_picmip 5
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      Next time wear contacts. : timmie
      • Some people can't : Ebu
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      you might be stereo-blind : ( : grimiv
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        probably just wears bifocals. i went with a few people that all wore glasses and didn't have any trouble... : dantastic
        • depends on your glasses. I have dinky frameless ones that are super light and fall off in a strong breeze... : StolenNosferatu
        • My mother wears tri-focals and didn't have a problem seeing the 3D. She loved it. : thetangent
    • There's something wrong with you then, not the 3D. The 3D was amazing, but I've heard some people just ca... : thetangent
    • I've seen it in RealD3D and IMAX 3D, and I have to say that RealD left me largely unimpressed. I thought ... : basketofkittens
  • I was very unimpressed by the 3D. I would have enjoyed 2D more... more vibrant colors and better picture ... : Valiant
• This is why netflix was invented. : Sailor of Fortune
• Weird. It should still be in a lot of theaters by then. : Geoffrois
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  Wow. I expected this movie to still be in theaters until late march/early April. : DogDharma
  • I hope it is because at the theater I go to they still have lines sectioned off for people to wait advanc... : iamgoat
• That'll be 4 months since it's theatrical release which is actually about the average now. Even the late ... : Prozium
• I had stopped paying attention, but by this time next week, Avatar's domestic take could hit $700M : riptyde
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  This is becoming necessary as the telesyncs become more and more sophisticated and review DVDs get leaked... : SpaecKow
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    Yeah but we all want special edition :/ : abrasion
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      Which they'll gladly sell you a few months later. This is part and parcel for the studios these days. F... : riptyde
      • This pissed me off the most with The Watchmen. : SigENeaT
• Avatar hitting DVD/Blu-ray on my birthday! : Ziz
• how long before a 3d avatar for the home, later this year maybe? : klearlyunseen
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  April 22nd is Earth Day : Serpico74
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    They should rename it Pandora Day to celebrate the occasion. I bet there are people that care more about... : pigvomit
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      You're seen the "OMG Avatar made me depressed" forum posts, you know those people exist. If they stepped ... : Serpico74
      • If people could stick their things into plants, then maybe we would all understand nature. : pigvomit
  • You hear that James Cameron. Earth Day, not Pandora Day! RAGE! : Nixx2004
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    And my birthday. :( : The Key
    • That's gotta suck having a birthday on Earth Day, what, with everyone celebrating the Earth. Worse than a... : Serpico74
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    For every light that gets turned off, I'm going to burn 3 tires. : Marrbe
    • lol : Godhatesfatpeople
• That is their best chance and not losing money to piracy with the DVD screener out there already : rosewood
• That's a pretty standard turn-around. 4 months from release is the norm. : Vincent Grayson
• That's pretty fucking fast! o_O : thetangent
• Standard practice now to milk the fuck out of the market. Barebones Special Edition Directors Cut Ed... : Beady

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  The same amount as for "3D gaming" i.e. zero dollars. Fuk dat shit. : vx2o
  • Only 3d gaming is amazing. Nvidia 3d vision is awesome. : scud
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  $200 - $1 * (N ms input delay) : GloriousCow
  • if it sees into the future, they may pay you money to own one : spiderfill
• Does free cost anything? : SnakeIRye
• Depends. Does it come with a 250gb 360 that won't die on me after a short time? : walker270
• haha flamed by 13 year old phd's in engineering, so true : gmd
• Not much. I'd probably expect it to come free with some awesome game I wanted that utilized it. If not... : famine101
• 5 bucks : Slowtreme
• Michael Pachter, videogame ANALyst. : Fred Garvin
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  $100 if it actually works half as good as they're promising. : jingletard
  • About the same for me, would even pay more if it came with some cool mini games or something.. : tfsbrian
• No more than $100. : pigvomit
• Hell yeah, I'd pay $50 for a Natal. : Rice-Rocketeer
• lol, "I'm sure we're going to get flamed by 13 year-old Ph.Ds in engineering." : Cihte
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  Nothing. I find it totally uninteresting. It's every bit as much of a gimmick as the Wii-mote was and i... : wytefang
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    Shit if its as much a gimmick as the wiimote, MS is gonna get paaaaaaaiiiiiid. : snuff
    • Good point. :) : wytefang
• some nice little clips in there of what the Natal output looks like : derelict515
• considering i hate and never play my Wii - 0$ : multisync
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  3.50 : r3dn3ck
  • That. : mrblarg
• Nothing, I don't plan on getting it. : freakynipples69
• The more interesting question is: What will a new Xbox 360 with Natal cost, and will it even be possible ... : uncleanmonkey
• no way it will be $50. it would if MS wanted to take a slam dunk approach to getting the HW out, but no w... : thebigbeefsandwich
• Is this the thing that lets you see what the bottom of an avatar's shoe looks like? : snuff
• Can we see the games first please. : Cashh
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  Have they even shown a single game that uses this shit? : marmite
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    besides the initial demos of Richocet, Burnout and Milo (plus dashboard navigation), Fable 3 is confirmed... : derelict515
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      I must have missed Ricochet and Burnout. I didn't realise Milo was an actual game, I thought it was a tec... : marmite
      • Burnout was just a tech demo they bolted on with a small amount of work. Hands on impressions were favora... : derelict515
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    It was reported that it wouldn't be using an on-board processor anymore, so it will need 10-15% of the CP... : 60days
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      yeah shovelware like Fable 3 and http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/62388 : derelict515
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        #1 Peter has also promised to give you a real boy to love via Natal :/ #2 that could still very well be... : 60days
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          This assumes that all AAA games use a 100% of the cpu though. : klearlyunseen
          • I'm sure most don't most of the time, but if it ever does, natal would put it over the edge : Ebu
• They'd probably have to pay me. I couldn't possibly be less interested. : deveus1
• 100$ no more : jonin
• have to be 100 bucks or less. anything more and i'd probably wait till it's worthwhile but honestly i ha... : dantastic
• $100 : PointlesS76
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  Right now? $0US Seriously, not hating, but historically things like this are boring gimmicks, and unt... : owly
  • Even if it was nothing more than a way of nagiating the dash it would be amazing for "casual" uses of the... : uncleanmonkey
• If it has really good games supporting it, I'd pay up to $100. I might pay more if there is a really good... : owtwerd
• I wont be paying more than $50 for it, if at all. : Judicus
• $70 tops. : kallanta
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  $100 bundled with a killer app : ultramega
  • same here : matthaeus
• I'll probably end up buying it to play one or two party games and then never use it : bozer
• $0, because I'm really just not interested in playing games that way. : Vincent Grayson
• Zero! I would feel like a damn retard doing motions to play a game, now if we can get some virtual porn, ... : Tattoo Trav
• I will sell a Starcraft 2 beta key for one! : Serpico74
• $150 if there are good games for Natal and Natal works better than advertised. $200 if it can be used to ... : Dr_Cube
• 50-100 : klearlyunseen
• 50 bucks if it comes with some decent entertainment : SiW.
• Not one red cent : Ebu
• Where's God of War 3? whut. : abrasion
• I would pay 30$ US for Natal, it completely doesn't interest me but 30$ is throwaway cash. : abrasion
• Pack it in with a killer app or I have no use for it. : AgentPothead
• video talking about controllers: http://www.theage.com.au/digital-life/games/game-designers-contemplate-c... : radula
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  Nada. It's not accurate enough for any fine motions, so don't expect anything out of minority report, and... : tostador
  • why would you possibly think it couldn't lock on someone sitting down? : derelict515
• $50 seems about right to me. $20s more and I might get it as a splurge item, but no more than that. : TheVietSpecial
• Nothing, not interested at all. : Sapiens
• I have no interest in this gimmick. : Jimbo Ro
• I wager that the wireless dongle will still cost greater than Natal. I mean really microsoft?!? : Vegtro
• $120 but only if it came with a game I wanted like Fable 3. : doozer667

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• The baby scene in children ofen does this to me every time : spiffymc
• Good Will Hunting : iamgoat
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  Rudy. Goddammit so much. I start to tear up every time he takes the field. : theangrywaffles
  • The Fox and the Hound : theylookwolfs
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  Toy Story 2 : Tattoo Trav
  • That Sarah Mac song starts and I am a blubbering mess : trebarg
• ..... The end of Sonatine. I'm serious. : AxeMan808
• Forest Gump : askedrelic
• Million Dollar Baby aggghhh : mysled
• The Whale Rider : Borzoi
• Schindler's List (and Band of Brothers, etc) is hard to beat in this department because you know it happe... : Dave-A
• Always : proclone1
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  it's a wonderful life. : anthonybean
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    Name made me think of Life is Beautiful. : iamgoat
    • Beautiful movie. : Navy Spitfire
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  ghost when patrick swayze did that thing : spiderfill
  • Road House when that guy said to Swayze, "I used to fuck guys like you in prison" : pyide
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  definitely had something in my eye during the 1st 10 minutes of UP. I totally didn't expect that sucker p... : mindmann
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    the end of that one got me too. : pyide
    • this movie gets me BEFORE those things happen just thinking about it : MrBig0
  • Before I got married I might have made it through that movie without crying, but definitely not now that ... : riptyde
  • Agreed. It so compelling and so true. : ColonBlow1
  • Completely agree. : InfoBiter
  • Aye. Both during the beginning and also when Carl sits down to actually read the adventure book. : aaarrrgh
• "That's quite a view" "Yes it is, quite a view." : locater16
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  This g'damn scene in The Iron Giant every g'damn time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UkZOZIO63I : Talonus.
  • superman :( : Deathlove
  • yes :( : riptyde
  • you cant block fallout :( : senor135
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  Short Circuit 2. That shit really got me as a kid when they beat him down. OSCAR!!!!!!!! : Darthbrooks
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    Thankfully Oscar got his in one of the greatest scenes in cinematic history! http://www.youtube.com/wa... : Medster
    • Hell yeah! : Darthbrooks
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  Marley and Me was by far the biggest tearjerker of all time and makes old yeller look like a comedy in co... : mcpstoner
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    Yeah, I saw that one coming, so I stayed away from Marley and Me. : fancy_clancy
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      I read the book first before the movie so I was prepared, but reading the book I was blubbering like a ba... : usmcmueller
      • My wife told me about it and I refuse to read it or see the movie now. I cried like a bitch at the end o... : riptyde
  • that movie destroyed me. : bozer
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  "Let off some steam, Bennett" : Serpico74
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    "You know how I said I'd kill you last?" : locater16
    • "Don't disturb my friend. He's dead tired." : basketofkittens
• The Champ. : punchdog
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  his last thumbs up before being laid down into the steel. : varsindarkin
  • Yes, fuck yes, i cried like a baby when i first saw it. : Dschinghis Khan
  • "i know now why you cry" :`( : stump
  • http://www.gifbin.com/bin/1237977458_thumbsup-terminator.gif : guido anchovy
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  fucking lion king gets me every time : fufux
  • same :( : vitek r
  • if you are like me, it's the scene near the end where he starts walking up pride rock to take his place a... : riptyde
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  I always cry during that crappy Whoopie Goldberg movie Ghost cuz I watched it right after my dad died : Megara9
  • That sucks. That movie got me too. : Lightzout
• The Green Mile : c0bra
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  Anything where animals are hurt/pass away. All Dogs Go to Heaven, Marley and Me, shit even Homeward Bound... : Head Rush
  • Do not watch Cannibal Holocaust. : nwillard
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    Secret of NIMH? : c0bra
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      Don't know what this is, but I take it I should not watch. : Head Rush
      • It's a fantastic movie. : riptyde
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        No, you should. : c0bra
        • Just IMDB'd it, sounds cool. I'll add it to my queue, but if it makes me cry I'm coming for you both. : Head Rush
    • A tale of 2 lonely batteries. : abrasion
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  it's retarded but i always get a little misty when boromir dies in fellowship of the ring : dirge23
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    It's the music.. The score at that point makes it much more intense than it deserves to be. : ]aratex[
    • The music after Gandalf falls into the deep is just achingly beautiful. Great, great job on the score. : Arctic Fox
• You Can Count on Me : ass-street
• It doesn't bother me now, but Bambi is fucking harsh on a child. : uncle slappy
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  Dear Zachary was last movie that teared me up :( : Iwannaacura
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    ^^^ this x 1000 : Danny5225
    • Ah shit yeah, I forgot about this. Biggest downer movie I've ever seen - right from the start you know it... : jbury
• the fountain and what dreams may come. so intense when i let myself get caught up : aurealis
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  The Fountain, What Dreams May Come, Ghost, Up! : biskits
  • Wall-E : biskits
• Field of Dreams : lpearl
• I approve your use of the underscore and not having a retarded shackname 2.0. : steelsamurai
• 7 pounds gets me : hobosapien
• Independence Day : dodob
• Up, Ghost, Lion King, Eight Below, Old Yeller, any movie where an innocent animal dies, like Benji the Hu... : riptyde
• John Q Bridge to Terabithia : skitzo
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  Dancer in the Dark. You'll weep, then hang yourself. : Albemuth
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    Yeah I get choked up every time Springsteen brings Courtney Cox on stage to dance : riptyde
    • You insensitive asshole. : Albemuth
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  big fish : wurt
  • Oh god yes. I've seen this movie half a dozen times and that last scene where he finishes the story make... : mrblarg
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  Grave of the Fireflies is a movie you need to watch. You will probably only watch it once, but you should : strider_
  • Grave of the Fireflies looks interesting. I'll be sure to check it out. And I agree about the 'impact' fo... : fancy_clancy
• Home Alone :( : prime8
• Gattaca, The Fountain and Eternal Sunshine, especially Eternal Sunshine about a month after a breakup oh ... : abrasion
• "I told you I wasn't going back." : Do_Or_Die
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  Ne le dis à personne aka 'Tell No One'. Unbelievably amazing French movie. : Navy Spitfire
  • Looks pretty good. Thanks, added to my list. : fancy_clancy
  • That movie was fucking fantastic, although for some reason I get a lot of the events from it mixed up wit... : Vincent Grayson
• The diving bell and the butterfly : bluey25
• Showgirls; every single time. : massdev
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  Not a movie, but I sobbed like a bitch in the Why We Fight episode of Band of Brothers. : Arctic Fox
  • ^^^This. I've seen it three times and same fucking reaction. I keep thinking, " I've already seen this so... : Gojirah
  • yep, me too : alexpr
• Braveheart always made me tear up at the end. This last time I couldn't get over how crazy Mel Gibson ha... : valael
• Congratulations! You've recently registered and your handle is awwwlriiiight. Movie: E.T. : reelbk
• Iron Giant. suuuperman : timmie
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  The end of Ratatouille, when Ego takes his first bite, and again when he gives his review. That movie wa... : Sovos
  • Yeah the first bite was incredibly powerful, great movie : jbury
• Watership Down : Dr_Cube
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  only 2 movies have ever made me tear up and they are both animated movies Iron Giant and Up : theWhite
  • Up was so well done. : phipple
• Weekend at Bernie's 2. : phipple
• Both 'Pan's Labyrinth' and 'Big Fish' turn me into a sobbing child. I fucking love those movies too. Bah! : Danny5225
• Endings of The Deer Hunter & Shindler's List : sanchez
• Magnolia. : The Wilhelm Scream
• dancer in the dark : davislovestacobell
• LOTR When Gandalf falls with balrog. : gydot
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  Up : nunami
  • this, definitely : sexydingo
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  American Beauty, Shawshank Redemption, Big Fish, Chairman of the Board : two50six
  • Chairman of the Board Bored aka Box Office Poison : mrasparagus
• Anything where there's a reconciliation between father and son. I must have daddy issues. : Whistler77
• Glory gets me every time at the end :( : Ovate
• Pete's Dragon : Chunks
• Not sure why but I watched The Green Mile about a year ago for the first time and it turned on the waterw... : Sludgehead
• JessicaSlumberParty.avi : DrWaffles
• Bright Star. There's a scene at the end where The lead girl hears about her should be husbands death. She : Creepin_Jeezus
• Walle : lcizzle

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• *head explodes* : dewdman
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  Err, uhh, tachyon density rays project much easier through gas than solid. Yeah. Yeah that's the answer. : ryuuseki
  • Shut up, Data! : MatzL.E.
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  Gas giants don't have any worthwhile minerals though! Moderate and below are not worth your time in ge... : alias
  • It'd weird because I found that I had a better chance of finding ezo on poor planets compared to rich. I'... : Mmmmmoo
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  After scanning a bazillion planets, that particular point really pisses me off. I hate scanning. : Kentor
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    Yeah, I was fine with it at first, but even with the scanner upgrade, it's getting annoying. I don't und... : pigvomit
    • Some planets got rich on one R&B album and spent their money on posses and houses in neighborhoods in the : Lunatic Angelic
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    they really should've added a "scanner upgrade 2" to the game that would mark the location of the deposit... : YamatoTwinkie
    • I liked scanning =( : not work safe
• Yes, and if you think about it, you are by far the toughest living being in the galaxy. : not work safe
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  Because it's poorly designed. Bioware needs to take Dave-A's idea and incorporate a "Cooking Mama" type m... : ErichTopp
  • More food and less ass! : Snuffles-
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    It didn't even make sense in the context of the game. : Kentor
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      We'll spend untold billions to get you on your feet and flying around in space, now go mining to upgrade ... : Dave-A
      • You are humanity's last hope! All of our existence is dependent entirely on your actions! We're all dea... : walker270
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  It so unfun. It's like work. : Boxelder
  • All the minigames are TERRIBLE. I don't need to play your stupid hacking game every time I open a chest ... : Boxelder
  • They did it on purpose to bring back the Mako in 3 which would be accepted with open arms. : pyide
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    this is what scares me about playing both games :( : Halen
    • Honestly, those sections are tedious, but they don't make up a very big chunk of gametime, and skipping t... : action wombmate
    • there's not actually that much of it. At first you think there is but then you realize all the upgrades t... : derelict515
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  The designers of the game should be forced to scan every planet in the game back to back on the 360 until... : LilCrypto
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    I think the devs are fucking with me on that Rich -> Good -> Moderate -> Depleted thing. I've found some... : pigvomit
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      "Depleted" doesn't mean completely empty either. Several planets I scanned as "depleted" still had two t... : Tech T
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        I'm pretty sure the scale from rich...depleted isn't based on the "number" of resource piles, but on the ... : Agrona
        • sometimes you'll do a double jump down in ratings on a big node, so being based on total quantity rather ... : dooberzoo
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        why are you even wasting time scanning depleted or even poor planets? : derelict515
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          He's probably just finishing up a planet after it reaches "poor" or "depleted". : Arcanum
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            but why? it's a waste of time. There are so many rich planets that will get you the resources faster, jus... : derelict515
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              Not really. Different planets have different resource preferences. If you're looking for a particular r... : Arcanum
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                Unless you're looking for element zero there's no reason to be hunting anything in particular, and there'... : derelict515
                • The resource locations are predetermined (as far as I can tell), and resource rating is based on the tota... : Arcanum
            • On my first playthrough I didn't know any better; subsequent playthroughs I've ignored planets labeled as... : Tech T
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      Totally, that system seems way off. I've seen some rich planets go to poor after 3 probes and some poor ... : plunkymeadows
      • It's based on total resource quantity. When you go from rich->poor in three probes, you're probably pull... : Arcanum
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  mass effect 3 will probably have another total overhaul, and people will still hate it just as much : Downforce
  • I don't think the point is that people hate Mass Effect (though perhaps some do). It's more about the di... : action wombmate
  • I disliked this system, but it was much better than the bullshit in the first game where you had to go do... : K1Bond007
  • in ME3 you have to dig for minerals using a virtual shovel with natel : dantastic
  • What's silly is that neither the side planets in ME1 nor the planet scanning in ME2 are bad in principle.... : Arcanum
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  You know what's fun? Shooting things! Let me fly around in the shuttle, shoot the shit out if some rocks ... : Dave-A
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    I loved the way Star Control 2 did it. Shoot stuff that moves, collect stuff that is standing still. Do... : pigvomit
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      Can I collect moving things?! : Dave-A
      • It should be touch a moving thing, die shoot a standing still thing when close, explode and die : judge
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    Actually me too! I really wanted to fly around in ME2. Hopefully there's dogfights in ME3! : SpaecKow
    • Shit we agreed on something the universe is going to start unravelling. : Dave-A
  • Casey Hudson read this for ME3, I know you're watching!! : Dave-A
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  it's really like no one playtested that part. Was the only way they could think to gather resources thro... : DonkeyPopsicle
  • of course, the rest of the game is fucking fantastic. Except for Sheperd's smile animations. Then he ju... : DonkeyPopsicle
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  I just youtubed up Yeoman Chambers' scene UNFFF : bolneze
  • She never put out for me :( : jbury
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  I don't understand the pain really, I just stick the scanner on the edge of the planet and paint up and d... : Jonathan
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    doing that for 5-10 mins multiplied by x planets doesn't start to grate on your nerves a little? : Dave-A
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      Not to defend the scanner game (because I think it was kind of pointless/added nothing to the experience)... : veras
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        I don't methodically scan the planets because of OCD, I just didn't have much luck the other way. : Dave-A
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          Pulse scanning and DPI don't work for the 360 too : Dave-A
          • Hmm? Pulse scanning works fine on 360 (as in, pulsing the scan button rather than holding it), DPI obviou... : veras
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        It's far worse on the 360. Except for the one scanning speed upgrade there's nothing to make scanning a ... : LilCrypto
        • Oh God, I hadn't seen the 360 scanning before. I would have had a big problem with that if I hadn't play... : pwnage1232
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          I find going sideways is a lot better than that. You can then combine the right stick to speed it up. : Rizob
          • i used both analog sticks. zig zagged them in the same direction downwards, covered more ground and fast... : dantastic
    • Not really - after the upgrade it only takes 3-5 minutes and I rarely do more than three planets before d... : Jonathan
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  how the hell do you mine a gas giant anyway? : GloriousCow
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    The same way I mined Uranus... by probing it : veras
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      the pressure on the surface of uranus would preclude deep mining : GloriousCow
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        Deep mining, sure, but a gas harvesting plat buoyed by a balloon platform might be possible. : Conan
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          gaseous platinum? : GloriousCow
          • I haven't even played ME2. Hydrocarbons would be more likely. : Conan
• The next DLC is supposed to have the "Hammerhead (hover) Tank" to drive around planets and junk. I'm wond... : Sovos
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  Games designers should never forget the extent to which players will let their OCD make them do something... : peanut-
  • Mass Effect 3's resource gathering system will involve mailing in your own toenails to Bioware : GloriousCow
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    I quickly learnt to only mine what I needed and not bother trying to fully deplete a planet but someone m... : dooberzoo
    • I am about 20 hours in now and I've mined 3 planets to see what it's like, but I also have a shitload of ... : peanut-
  • haha so true. I spent maybe an hour total mining in the game and just bought most of my upgrades, I have ... : nomaad
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  It's better than driving around the planets getting stuck in ravines and shit looking for random minerals : uncle slappy
  • yeah, they advanced from intolerably annoying to intolerably boring. : DonkeyPopsicle