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  haiku just posted about this topic in general last night : boring gegtik
  • i didn't see that but it sounds like a good discussion : EvilDolemite
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  I agree with him. Fuck what the consumer wants. They get what they are given and should like it. : theghostofsmdever
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    it's funny how so many gamers push games as art, but then they bitch when the 'artist' does things they d... : Halen
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      Are we also not allowed to criticize movies and books because they're "art"? : Arcanum
      • it just seems that it's much more harsh for games, that there's a much larger entitlement feel : Halen
    • Sure we can, because video games are simultaneously art in an interactive and entertaining medium. : ieGod
    • there is plenty of art i don't like and criticize, i'm not sure i understand the point you're trying to m... : qwpeoriu
  • It is kind of like when the focus groups for a movie whine because they want a happy ending. : Fayk
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  It is a very Japanese-specific design philosophy, but I'm not sure it's exactly arrogance. Japanese gamer... : qwpeoriu
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    the differences in design are very interesting to me as i find myself playing fewer and fewer eastern-dev... : EvilDolemite
    • Same. I've pretty much given up on JRPGs for example. FF is dead to me. : ieGod
• Yeah, that kind of game design mindset pretty much needs to entirely go away. Without consumers to actua... : wytefang
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  absolutely a very japanese way to develop games. a game like resident evil comes to mind. people beg and ... : waxthirteen
  • *moving and shooting : waxthirteen
  • that's a very Capcom way. then there's a Square way, a Nintendo way, and more. it's stupid to say Japanes... : thebigbeefsandwich
• could we settle in the middle with, Take what you get and if you like it, cool! People get pretty fuck... : Slowtreme
• I don't get the point you're making both sides of the ocean in the gaming industry put shit into their ga... : ghost in my shell
• Just remember that your wallet is the ultimate decider in this. If you don't like a games design philoso... : granpachook
• That's an interesting response considering my own taste in games is moving away from very directed games ... : Dynotaku
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  Ah, the CliffyB philosophy. : Omaha
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    which one? : EvilDolemite
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      Being a dick. : Rehevkor
      • Wearing fruity shirts. : ChibiJosh
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  It's just the whole sheep mentality of the japs. You will conform or you will be outcast. Herp derp on... : Pandilex
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    I hope you're unserious. There's plenty of marketshare for games made with both philosophies, and it ha... : cerealSAM2
    • Name one : Pandilex
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    How's that racism thing working out for you? : daVinci1980
    • It's true, just Japan has the whole reality distortion field. : Pandilex
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  Hideki Kamiya developed Chrome? : indosauros
  • We also now know who came up with the mining in ME2. : ghost in my shell
• HIDEKI KAMIYA HATES DEMOCRACY. : Klebold
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  Well he made an awesome game so I trust him. : pancake humper
  • I agree with this humper. Although, I think while developers should definitely keep their vision when des... : smackpiece
• Bayonetta has the most annoying commercial. The one we see in Canada the horrible chick singing. Turns me... : ghost hacker
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  This "Japanese-specific" nonsense has to stop! Most Nintendo games are Japanese, btw, and they're nothin... : treefingers1
  • Forums are looking for something to pillory. Every time I read Neogaf someone created a thread with an ou... : Shai-Tan
• if he keeps making good games then more power to him. we want designers to come up with new and unique e... : mwasher
• i agree with him : JINKY
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  yeah the director of FF13 said something kinda similar recently when he was asked about the game being "t... : grendel
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    I like Fallout 3's approach. Narrative, what narrative? Just create an awesome environment and let me exp... : darcspeed
    • Thing is, not every game has to be the same. It's good that some games are linear and driven by a solid n... : Vincent Grayson
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      So you're saying FO3 has no narrative? that's crazy. It has tons, it just lets you come to it when you wa... : geedeck
      • I agree with this (largely), but I also agree that a game can just as easily be linear and telling a sto... : Lexicon_Leidun
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      Thing is, not everyone enjoys that, me included. : Halen
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        exactly this the thing that gets me about people who criticize developers for not listening to critici... : DeBurgo
        • Exactly, good point. : sevogajre
      • Ditto. The Bethesda RPGs just aren't for me. I don't care about exploring the environment or picking : walker270
    • Thing is, the point I'm trying to make here, what I'm really saying, is that, like everyone enjoys differ... : omnova
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    Yea, I'm not really feeling the combat system of White Knight Chronicles, but I'm enjoying the story and ... : Ebu
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      Really? The story, characters and voice acting have all seemed really bland to me. The only thing holding... : Vincent Grayson
      • Oh yea, this is totally a hold over until xiii hits : Ebu
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    They didn't say anything remotely similar: Toriyama: "Linearity allows me to tell you a rich story, wh... : daVinci1980
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      You're not paraphrasing at all -- you're blatantly misinterpreting what he's saying with your own ridicul : walker270
      • I loved Oblivion and FO3 because of Bethesda's record, but GTA lasted for only a bare few hours. : Ebu
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        He said: "I think instead of asking for games to deliver fun in the ways that they want, gamers should lo... : daVinci1980
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          videogames aren't cars, horrible analogy : DeBurgo
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            I'm not sure you understand the word 'analogy'. : daVinci1980
            • you aren't exactly making an analogy but that's pretty much the effect your word substitution in the quot : DeBurgo
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              I mean I don't understand why you would substitute those words unless you were implying that the idea of : DeBurgo
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                The analogy is that it would be absurd for another industry to fail to provide a critical component of th... : daVinci1980
                • except "fun" is incredibly subjective and nothing like "safety", which has all kinds of reasonably object... : DeBurgo
• You just don't like being told your tastes aren't top priority. Typical American sentiment. : omnova
• would you tell a painter that you didn't like his style, and that he should produce works more similar to... : dopeman
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  Terrible response? I think it's a valid response for the games he wants to design. You don't have to ag... : sevogajre
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    he is basically saying he's immune from criticism, right? if we don't like a part of his game it's becau... : EvilDolemite
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      No, he's saying he's not going to change his game because of that criticism, and that gamers could either... : Ebu
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        so he's not even responding to criticism? if you have issue with his design you should just keep your mo... : EvilDolemite
        • I was pointing out his likely intent, not defending him. : Ebu
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    I agree that Bayonetta is awesome, but I also agree that the 2 rail missions suuuuuuucked compared to the... : ChibiJosh
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      wrong, you just didn't find the fun in them! : EvilDolemite
      • Seriously it's the gamer's fault. : ieGod
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        They are actually pretty fun and hilarious homages to classic Sega arcade games. Maybe you don't like th... : sevogajre
        • I'm not saying they're bad... I just thought they were a mildly amusing gimmick that went on for way too ... : ChibiJosh
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      Suuuuuuuuucked? Well, I personally disagree. I did find them to be too long though. : sevogajre
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        Well, okay, yeah... they were fun for the first "wave". But they both had 3 waves that were exactly the s... : ChibiJosh
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          I disagree, I didn't think they were tacked on at all, I felt they were very well thought out. the thi... : DeBurgo
          • Yeah, I got the homages, but I just wanted to punch dudes inna face. *shrug* : ChibiJosh
• overall it doesn't matter, gamers will bitch if it's an open sandbox or completely on rails : Downforce
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  When I was a kid an games were rare we would play the shit out of every game we got our hands on, no matt... : dael
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    that's great when you're ten and have access to one game every three months and don't have the internet ... : EvilDolemite
    • I don't think he's saying he's immune or that he doesn't respond, simply that in the end, it's ultimately... : slax0r
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  I agree that the response is terrible, but I mean, I think taking that response at face value and using i... : DeBurgo
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    i think it clearly is a design philosophy amongst certain developers. also though, i think a lot of ga... : EvilDolemite
    • yeah I agree, it is clearly a design philosophy, but what I'm saying is that the reason for that sequence... : DeBurgo
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  I agree with him. We get too many cookie cutter games that have been focus tested into a bland mess. Ma... : melkore
  • it really has nothing to do with that. Unique or not a part of a game could be unfun to some or most peop... : derelict515
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  You're looking at that quote from the wrong perspective. He is NOT saying "you'll take what we give you a... : daedraug
  • But other than playing a demo or viewing actual gameplay videos, how does a gamer know that they'll find ... : the archvile
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  i loved the mission where you're riding the rocket, i thought it was both entertaining and a clever depar... : Herman Toothrot
  • I liked it the first couple of times, but it would have been nice to skip since that level has one of the... : ghost in my shell
• What do you want him to say or do? What does being Japanese have to do with it? People are going to say... : My Documents
• I don't think he's saying "take this and like it". I think he means that there can be novel ways of havi... : barcibus
• It was interesting experiencing a bit of Valve's conflict between player desire and developer intentions ... : action wombmate
• It's hard to say he's wrong when he put out a game like Bayonetta. Maybe if the game had sucked then we c... : -JLN-
• eh, i kind of agree with that. a game needs a vision and while it should be informed by what's fun, if yo... : dahanese
• A good game is a good game. Hype around technology or "design choices" doesn't make a game better. Devs s... : Turn-Based Strategy

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• Apple had the same thing. It was awesome. : Yanks
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  that's crazy! how is that even possible? like multiple dedicated lines? : kgargs
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    Obviously they are using a bonded connection consisting of NetZero Dial-Up. : mrvandelay
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      Hundreds of Thousands of modems working in tandem. : one random winner
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        I find this hard to believe....the maintenance alone would be a nightmare.... : kgargs
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          I'm serious. Most big companies do this. : mrvandelay
          • I know ours does, administration is a pain in the ass. : mmogger
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            if it's good enough for Vandelay Heavy Industries, it's good enough for my company! : Cheeziologist
            • www.vandelayindustri.es : mrvandelay
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          the modems are in racks. You have so many 56k lines that even if several go bad you don't even touch them... : GloriousCow
          • That shit is NEVER obsolete : MercFox1
          • Ahahahaha : thetangent
          • Hahahaha. I used to manage their retention department before they moved the call center overseas. : Ormsbee
  • you can buy a 10gbit line if you want. we have one of those and a few 1gbit lines at work. which is a dat... : NexusOne
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    We have point to point 1Gb fiber. Standard in some places. : loboca
    • Tho obviously this is more.. but we have the option for higher. The fiber rings around NYC are crazy. : loboca
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  Were the result .pngs always that purty? Or did you bling them up recently? And how much is that speed go... : Dave-A
  • Not bling'd up. : vx2o
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    These have been around for about a year. I hate them. We're using some really old and ugly tech to build ... : haiku
    • Just change the AA from Crisp to Sharp. : not work safe
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    Probably moving to something like this: http://kane.ookla.com/shareimages.png That pingtest.net revisi... : haiku
    • Magic happened here. : Jonathan
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      For some reason the new ones seem more like an ad layout than an informational one, especially the pingte... : aggressor
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        It's too many colors and too much separation of information. I don't think they are really there yet, but... : haiku
        • You are so dreamy with all of your design talk. : aggressor
    • that pingtest redesign somehow manages to make every single part of it worse : GloriousCow
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      did you do them : Bamtan
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        Yeah. They aren't great which is why I'm not using them yet. They are trying to do too much, and they are... : haiku
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          I can see what you mean about the type in the current ones. I like the general layout in the new ones - t... : Dave-A
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            The expanded string length is what drove most of the layout. We get a lot of complains because ISP names ... : haiku
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              was there confusion about what the stars meant? The text 'ISP satisfaction rating' seems redundant clutt... : GloriousCow
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                That is exactly the problem. People didn't know what they were rating when they rated their ISP. And we a... : haiku
                • i do not envy designers one bit : GloriousCow
                • 2 steps forward and 1 back is progress bro. : kgargs
          • Also I'm not embarrassed to admit I've been here clicking the "Settings" on and off on the homepage for a... : Dave-A
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          I'd try to keep the tall fonts, it's part of the Speedtest identity that I instantly recognise, and I ima... : Bamtan
          • Yes, all good suggestions. The fonts are actually the same, it is just that in the current share images t... : haiku
    • Both don't look nearly as good. : Chod
    • No haiku, those are both much worse. They have more chrome around the info you want making it harder to ... : SqueegyTBS
    • I like the old one better =( : TheNiXXeD
    • Way too cramped :( Reminds me of my old programmer art: too much going on, not enough empty space. The ... : qsylvr
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      before even looking at the replies i knew it would be a bunch of shackers whining about how much better t... : aeg1x
      • well they are : Arctic Fox
• bits? pffft... : vx2o
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  My god, it's full of bits. : ieGod
  • Everywhere i look all i see is bits : GBeer11
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  you at their offices? explains the re-designs.. ;) : g0nk
  • lol : Moonbase Commander
  • bwahahah : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    BWHAHAAHAHJOUAHDSIOSAJ:OID : busdriver3030
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      needs more virus : redfive
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        look at what you did :( : busdriver3030
        • sorry :( : redfive
  • oh snap : CapnChaos
  • got some booms right here : moe6
  • looooooool : virus
  • daaang : das_runt
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    I don't get it. : Mmmmmoo
    • you've used some of his work : Postal
    • * facebook has had some shitty redesigns lately * haiku is a shitty designer : uncleanmonkey
  • LOL PWND! : xsii
  • hahaha awesome : zerog83
  • hahahaha wow : [7]kami
  • damn g0nk when did you get funny? : ejectorpod
  • http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f318/rowenarrow/Gifs/cold_blooded.jpg : Godhatesfatpeople
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    http://orientalheatmag.typepad.com/.a/6a00e5528100618833010536427b75970b-500wi : arizona bay
    • lol : Godhatesfatpeople
• whatever you probably photoshopped it : geedeck
• Holy shit even at amazon i couldn't pull that kind of speed. : Iwannaacura
• play more farmville : hamachi
• ☼_☼ : devpaul
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  What is wrong with the Seattle (Comcast) Speedtest server? I'm on Comcast (Business) in Seattle and it's ... : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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    How are you getting a Comcast server in Seattle on speedtest.net? We (ookla) host the Seattle server. : haiku
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      is he talking about this - http://speedtest.comcast.net/ : Shadowdane
      • I thought he might be, but that isn't Seattle, it is Portland. lol my speed tests are everywhere : haiku
      • This is still faster than Ookla by 3mbps : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
    • Was it always that way? Speeds are okay on Ookla Seattle today. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
  • Xfinity'd : Sailor of Fortune
• That's the mid-level package for South Korea or Japan household internet. : kramweil
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  I'm getting 2.60 MBits/s at Ubisoft.. I thought we had something fast... It's probably controlled though ... : mnok
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    Better hope your internet connection doesn't go down or your computer will turn off. : Robotic Puppy Eater
    • lol this : sreyes22
  • fix assassin's creed 2 pc! : sreyes22
• yeah so what i have some high quality fibre in my diet : boring gegtik
• We've got a decent connection at my office (Tufts University): http://www.speedtest.net/result/720267321... : afty
• too bad downloading large binaries from vendors isn't nearly as fast. : j0nchan

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• I remember that time : OverloadUT
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  The #1 best piece of advice would be to start reading and posting your photos on: http://forums.dpreview.... : DJ Clipdat
  • Sounds awesome, thanks! : Miresse
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    Personally, I'm not a huge fan of dpreview forums, people seem to be more nit-picky and not as helpful th... : dravalen
    • Cool, I didn't even know about these. : DJ Clipdat
    • Excellent, thanks! I already miss the Shack forum layout though! : Miresse
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      Agreed. dpreview forums are also painfully slow and you rarely get replies that are helpful. : sparkly
      • Good to know. I guess the community has went to shit since when I was posting there 2-3 years ago. : DJ Clipdat
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  As I like OverloadUT, I will not be a party to this. : Deathlove
  • I don't understand. : Miresse
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    How foolish I was to think that buying her an expensive camera would end her drooling over photography eq... : OverloadUT
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      ho ho ho ho ho my wife referred to her earrings as "almost a D3" a couple nights ago :( : Deathlove
      • She's a keeper! : DJ Clipdat
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        for earrings? at that rate I'd sell them to get a D300s and a good lens! : Postal
        • she already has a d300 :( : Deathlove
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      Figures that lenses cost as much or more than the body. :( : Miresse
      • Definitely. If you buy quality lenses they will last through multiple camera bodies, though, so it can be... : Nixx2004
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  Join the shacknews Flickr group and shoot with us! :D http://www.flickr.com/groups/shackassignments/ : Galadriel07
  • ^^^^ yah! :D : bakanoodle
• It might be overkill, but look at the 70-200 F4L lens: http://www.amazon.com/Canon-70-200mm-Telephoto-Zoo... : Nixx2004
• Just practice for yourself, really the best strategy is to take hundred and hundreds of photos, using ton... : locater16
• Wow, nice photography work. Also, this is a sweet shot of my M1A from the rangemeet! http://www.flick... : Sailor of Fortune
• If you want to get into soft-core porn, talk to Sparkly : Jinxplayer
• added to the contact list -- nice to get ideas for photos :) : Postal
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  Don't post here... I hear people are real assholes. : Wheatloaf
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    i think its more a facination with assholes. (paging mace) : MaverickOrig
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      << DRY HUMPING >> Yes? : mace
      • Hahaha awesome. : Miresse
  • you critique people that post photos here like they're working a pro commerical shoot : n0v4
  • It's true! ;) : sparkly
• you go girl! : drucifer
• I started with only the nifty-fifty. Then I expanded and added the following: * Canon 70-300mm - smaller ... : Alco23
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  wow, you are quite good for a full beginner. I wouldn't ask for critiques online. everyone pretends ... : fotografico
  • Thanks, though I've been taking photos for years now I never got to play around with a DSLR. It's gloriou... : Miresse
• P.S. My photojournal --> http://lemonfinch.blogspot.com/ : Miresse
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  I'm a bit of an addict myself and i have 50mm f1.4 10-17 fisheye 100mm macro f2/8 18-50 f2.8 12-24... : trevis
  • The macro is what I miss the most so far, it'll probably be my first new lens purchase. Have you ever bou... : Miresse
• Wow looks great so far man What ive been doing lately: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxxahbOrVFE&hd=... : et72

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  Spoilers! : gooblerampling
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    Yes I've revealed the entire story of Mass Effect, all it's characters, and plot twists in this post. : Dave-A
    • Sarcasm! : gooblerampling
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  yea, pretty much. Although I enjoyed blowing things up with the mako more than scanning planets. Btw smal : wurt
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    To speed it up, you mean? Did you upgrade it? : Dave-A
    • Oh.. no not yet. I need to play more ! : wurt
  • easiest way is to increase mouse DPI : Topsiderover
• I swear I only saw "cutscene" happen one time? : Kiyohime
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  You're forgetting: - Make random tough choice, immediately get greeted with a MISSION COMPLETE screen : nwillard
  • Then you check your unread messages and read a generic "thanks for making that decision, we owe you Shepa... : Kiyohime
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    It's annoying when it does that "Hit B to finish mission", which sounds like you'll get dumped unceremoni... : Dave-A
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      That pop-up was so annoying. It took me forever to figure out that I could make it go away. : Kiyohime
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        You can make it go away? Shit, I was talking to everyone after Tali's loyalty mission and not being able ... : nwillard
        • Yeah, that's where it really annoyed me too : Dave-A
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        How? : breadsticks
        • Press the key once and then pick the option to stay. It shouldn't pop up anymore on that mission. : Kiyohime
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  I thought the side missions were fairly varied. The Blue Suns thing is just like a chain of 3 missions bu... : pyide
  • There are other chains for the other merc corps which are pretty similar though. I enjoyed the side missi... : flooq
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  Dave are- are you complaining about cover in this post?!?!!? : SpaecKow
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    No I love cover, it is the game mechanic of the future, thou dinosaur! You're stuck in a tarpit and sinki... : Dave-A
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      I can stiil reach from this tarpit with my big old mouth and BITE YOUR STUPID BUTT >:( then when they dig... : SpaecKow
      • lol. : dewdman
    • I've used cover in FPS games as long as I have played them. Things like corners, or ducking behind table... : MamiyaOtaru
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  You are oversimplifying things quite a bit here. The side missions in ME1 were TERRIBLE. It was the sam... : kill9
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    I wasn't inferring anything kill9, I just noticed a pattern I thought was interesting. Please stand down! : Dave-A
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      look you are making a judgement, and any judgement includes a "x > y" statement. If it's not explicit, it... : geedeck
      • sweet shiggety diggety, i better permaban myself :( : Dave-A
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  Pretty much. I think it's weird how the game was pretty much a straight arrow. I mean you know what t : geedeck
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    I'm just on the verge of lighting up the omega relay so I ain't gonna click that. I can't believe you sta... : Dave-A
    • I pretty much had the entire weekend to kill for it when I wasn't being social, plus yesterday was a snow... : geedeck
• To be fair the side missions in ME1 sucked ass, not to mention the combat. Scanning planets can be int... : Nitrium
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  i'll take those generic side missions over scanning any day, god i hate that shit : devpaul
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    I've been trying to think of ways to make the scanning mini-game more interesting. Perhaps a little more ... : Dave-A
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      It needs a skill based challenge, something you can get better at to get resources faster/in larger quant... : SpaecKow
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        Something involving taking cover is needed. Perhaps you take cover behind a seem of minerals, perhaps you... : Dave-A
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          They should make you mash X repeatedly while you're in cover collecting resources to enhance and modernis... : SpaecKow
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            They should make you manually enter a series of codes you retrieve from bodies that you find scattered ar... : Dave-A
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              That would accurately simulate my space-immersion where may I purchase this fine game? : SpaecKow
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                http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/excel/default.aspx : Dave-A
                • That's great thanks here I found one for you: http://www.amazon.com/Pony-Friends-2-Nintendo-DS/dp/B0014BD... : SpaecKow
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        How about they just remove it all together? Problem solved. : ieGod
        • since mining is used for research i would go something along the lines: - for ore: side missions where y... : devpaul
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      All they need to do is make the fucking scanner faster. The WORST part is that it takes several minutes ... : DinK
      • Even going faster it's still annoying: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dpv2-LeOc0o In my eyes, about al... : pyide
    • Turn it into a triangulation kind of thing using three scanners you move around the surface of the planet... : Arcanum
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      I would have liked side missions that give off massive amounts of minerals, like raiding pirate bases wou... : nomaad
      • I would have love that too. Along with http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=22187413 it would encourage mo... : pyide
    • I thought they should make it so there's a larger area where the minerals are and you can't get exact wit... : BlackCat9
  • Just scan until it's Moderate. I had more than enough for all the research available to me (although I'm... : UselessHack
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    I've pretty much stopped scanning. As soon as I start doing it, I start to fall asleep. : cltcprd
    • It's a good time to catch up on some podcasts! : Dave-A
  • Yeah, I didn't want to do the scanning bs either, so I just cheated and gave myself a bunch of minerals. ... : Modulus
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  That's not true. While not mind blowing there are a good variety of missions, including some solo (Sh... : MoreVespeneGas
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    Never said they were all the same, my good man. : Dave-A
    • Perhaps not, but it was implied most heavily : MoreVespeneGas
  • "Collect X number of thing" or "press these switches in the right order" is not a puzzle. It's Duke3D E2M... : SpaecKow
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    Are there more side quests than those that arrive via e-mail? I mean: will I have to scan EVERY planet to... : Nitrium
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      To find every single one? Yes, but you are notified of an anomaly / side quest as soon as you enter a pla... : pyide
      • thanks pyide : Nitrium
• you are describing one specific mission. i remember it, and i don't remember any others that were like th... : dirge23
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  That only happens once or twice no? The rest of my anomalies have been completely different: crash sites : ieGod
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    It sounds like he did one of the chain quests that are linked together, as I did it last night and that's... : breadsticks
    • yeah the one in particular can be found through exploration or after reading a datapad. There are like 2 ... : Fyunch Click
  • Let's not forget the mini Bring Down the Sky. Those damn Batarians. : Grimp
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  Remember how we played video games to just enjoy playing video games and not bitch about typical video ga... : pancake humper
  • Remember when we could post whimsical observations on games that we love, and everyone didn't overreact a... : Dave-A
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  ME2 is a fantastic example of "be careful what you wish for, jaded gamers" they actually address the e... : Downforce
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    Uh, I think most people would agree that ME2 has improved on ME1 in almost every way, but that doesn't me... : Arcanum
    • indeed, but it's really important for jaded gamers to slow the fuck down and realize the larger picture h : Downforce
  • Just because a lot was changed and improved upon from the original to the sequel doesn't mean every singl... : pyide
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  being about 20+ hours into ME1 i have a hard time imagining playing without the mako and loot drops :/ : EvilDolemite
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    I miss the Mako, but the rest of the game is pure ninjas on fire awesome!! : Dave-A
    • I just wish there were more weapons :( : ArcKnight
  • fuck that helium filled death trap. : Boxelder
  • it's like an ex-girlfriend from years ago. you completely forget until reminded, then it's 'oh yeah.. tha... : xsoulbrothax
  • just finished ME1 and i dont miss the constant loot spam one bit : theWhite
• Assuming that Bioware adds more missions via DLC then my disappointment in the mining sub game will be ba... : Jonathan
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  I did at least five side missions, not counting the loyalty missions, and only one of them was the way yo : BlackCat9
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    Yeah, I've been trying to knock all those ones off before I do the Omega relay thing. : Dave-A
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      Having not actually seen all the side missions, allow me to explain how formulaic they are... : deveus1
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        At no point did I ever say they were all the same, deveus1! : Dave-A
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          That seems to be what your OP is saying! That may not be what you meant, but it certainly looks like it ... : ZTac
          • I just thought it was amusing that there were a few side missions that started the same way. I was like "... : Dave-A
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    Also, I just finished my first playthrough about an hour ago. Survived with my full crew, told the Illusi : BlackCat9
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      Reave is probably more useful than Dominate, though. : Grimp
      • Reave does own, but I wanted to get to know the character. : BlackCat9
      • dominate seemed more useful at lower difficulty to me. great when you can 2-3 in a group, especially towa... : stgulik
    • I'm on my second playthrough on insanity mode. I had zero space booty calls in the first one, I must corr... : Downforce
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  look at all the ME2 backlashing going on in this thread. it was the funnest game we ever played for abou... : grendel
  • I haven't seen any backlashing going on. It's an awesome game, and I'm having a great time playing it :D : Dave-A
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    I think ME2 is a phenomenal game and a milestone, and that it will be tough to top as the best game of 20... : veras
    • I agree there are some problems with the game, its not flawless but the Shack has an anti-Shackhype ba... : grendel
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  Really? of the 5 I have tried, they are VERY different. 1) Landed on planet and had to destroy 3 heavy : byorn
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    oh shit the heavy robot one where you had to beat them up before they destroyed the crates. only saved h... : dantastic
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      I just quit that one. So frustrating it at an early level. : byorn
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        didn't seem like there was a way to draw all 3 of their fire at once :( : dantastic
        • this is ridiculously hard on insanity just because they take so long to wear down : dirge23
    • I think I saved 3-4 at most. I could not keep their fire on me. : melkore
    • Nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuke them! : brickmatt
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    number 2 pretty sure there was no way that you could have died on that level : dantastic
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      intellectually i know that, but holy shit the atmosphere was so amazing i found myself stopping anyway : xsoulbrothax
      • the game made you stop though :( : dantastic
  • yep, the variety in the nice, short, simple side missions will largely go overlooked. : Downforce
• All the main recruiting missions are the same "go to this planet and find out what my bastard child is do : not work safe
• I saw that once or twice. There was an entire side mission storyline dedicated to rogue VI, taking place ... : Bamtan
• Those missions actually turn into a bit of a side story later on which is kinda cool. Especially when I : melkore

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  oh and how did Tuchanka work for people who killed Wrex in ME1? oh and imported save game people: i w... : dantastic
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    ME2 imports are going to work slightly differently based on how re-importing an ME2 character into ME2 wo : veras
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      another weird part: i couldn't seal the deal for the paramour achievement until after the end of the game... : dantastic
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        Like veras says, any save from a character's profile / folder that has been flagged complete will be impo... : pyide
        • hmm i think i'll wait for DLC and hope i can get 3 more levels to max out. ME2 was great but i dont real... : dantastic
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    tuchanka: there's some other krogan who heads clan urdnot instead of wrex. he references wrex's death thr : varsindarkin
    • i heard it was his bro : MoreVespeneGas
    • It's his brother and he wants war instead of stability. He has the scientist krogan develop weapons in : breadsticks
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  The first was definitely more epic and had a much more grand scope, but the second was no less exciting. : ieGod
  • Yeah, I agree with that, too. The huge space battle going on and Shepherd making the speech and deciding : BlackCat9
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  Do you have any interest in going back to ME1 and doing another marathon playthrough of both games? I'm : treefingers1
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    dont buy the audio books. buy the paperbacks. they're pretty good, especially the first one that is the... : dantastic
    • also the author is mentioned and you can buy some of his books from the citadel : dantastic
    • They mention the 2nd book alot on the flotilla given Cerberus almost blew up a ship there : Crimsonbeak
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      Why not the audio books? Poor production? : OverloadUT
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        i guess if you like audio books. i remember the guy on GB saying it was weird. : dantastic
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          Well yeah, I figure you'd buy an audio book if you like audio books! But I don't even know what "weird" m... : OverloadUT
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            like the dude doing the voices for people talking including the women... weird : dantastic
            • That's normal for most audio books. : Jonathan
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  mass effect 2 easter egg: go into legion's room and just stand there for a while : GloriousCow
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    Another easter egg, go to the local cluster and mine Uranus. : mlev
    • You have to do it a couple times. : mlev
  • Even better is to dance with Legion in your group at a club. : Pettytheft
• I have been playing this a little bit each night. I fucking love the game. I just recently recruited The : OverloadUT
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  Quick question about the squad: who goes in the empty spot between Zaeed and Samara? I've just made the j : Nitrium
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    you can't miss them, don't sweat it. : dirge23
    • er wait, that's not right. : dirge23
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      Thanks dirge. : Nitrium
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        don't thank me, i was thinking of legion but you get him before you do the omega 4 jump. : dirge23
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          Hmmm well, bummer - I've made the jump without him I didn't see any ways to save him, though. Maybe so... : Nitrium
          • huh, i wonder what did it. : dirge23
          • you didn't bring him aboard when he got shot opening the barrier for you at the reaper core? you're give : dantastic
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        he's wrong I think, you can and did miss them pretty sure! : veras
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          there's really no way to miss anybody though, unless you just decide to skip the recruitment missions cle... : dirge23
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            I think you can "miss" the party member that he missed, if you opt to send him off to Cerberus rather tha : veras
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              Oh so that was it. : Nitrium
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                haha, duh. : dirge23
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                  I thought they were just going to insert some probes into his metal ass and send him back to me :( : Nitrium
                  • That's too bad. I thought the last member was the most interesting one. : Mmmmmoo
            • Yeah. I guess that decision is like the Wrex of ME2. : node
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          He was just attacked by a husk when standing in front a console while messing with that reactor and I did : Nitrium
          • you do after the boss fight. : dantastic
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  On the note of "who to send where at the end" I don't think they made it intuitive enough to figure out. : mlev
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    yeah i don't know how zaeed is a "wrong" choice here. : dirge23
    • I sent Zaeed to lead the survivors back to the Normandy and they all lived. : mlev
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      The way it's set up, you need to choose the fastest/best hackers for the tech job (aka tali or legion), t : veras
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        Wait, you can get Morinth instead of Samara? : mlev
        • Yeah, if you keep your pimp hand strong : veras
        • Yes if you have 100% Paragon or Renegade you can kill Samara and recruit Morinth : Crimsonbeak
      • I didn't choose Miranda for the 2nd squad because of that little bit where Jack says she won't follow her : Gojirah
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      Zaeed looks out for himself, so while he is very deadly, he doesn't have the concern for others to do som : deject
      • and yet he still ends up dying if you pick him : dirge23
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        except he gets the survivors back to the normandy just fine. : mlev
        • That's because you don't need a leader for that job, any loyal squad member can do that one fine. : deject
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    i'm guessing the logic is that samara is a justicar, she works alone, under her own code, and will kill p : GloriousCow
    • except for spectres and cerberus assets : dirge23
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  anybody else slightly bothered by the way characters are setup as the ultimate badasses (Jack especially) : GloriousCow
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    yeah, that was a minor quibble of mine too but I just kind of wrote it off as a necessary evil - in the c : veras
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      if i was a bioware i'd just have her hit by an explosion or something during the rescue that might explai : GloriousCow
      • she had her personal difficulty set to easy : dirge23
      • *a bioware writer. I was my car :( : GloriousCow
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        I liked how they at least had the +20% biotic damage research upgrade for her, so technically she was the : veras
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          but yeah re: powers, Warp Ammo wasn't a good fit for her, her loyalty power should have been some assrapi : veras
          • yeah it should have been a scanners-style head asplode move : dirge23
  • This is entirely too common in RPGs. : Arcanum
• Does anyone think or know if those Collector Edition/Pre-Order/Dr.Pepper Promo armor will be available as... : Gojirah
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  51 hours? It took me 30 and I did every loyalty and side mission and explored every planet, I even let th... : Dynotaku
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    yeah i did it in 30 and did everything i could. combat takes way, way longer on insanity, so that might d... : dirge23
    • I was 41hours, 100% insanity playthrough. : mlev

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• very informative! : losimagic
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  you dont need to kill the uav operator, all primary guns will take it down : acidravelamp
  • Yeah that was the only main flaw I could see in the vid. Otherwise it's a pretty good starter's guide. : Arctic Fox
• Lol. On respawning: "Is your teammate arming the bomb? Pop out of his ass and heal him!" : marmite
• hey it's a cooler Remo on the previous episode on the right : dantastic
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  paging jimmy-buffett : Xevo
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    gimme a reference : dantastic
    • it's an abortion of a subthread, but here you go: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=22184972#itemanchor... : Xevo
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  WATCH THE VIDEO FIRST. I read the entire thing then watched, but he is just reading what's on the page. : AgentPothead
  • Conversely, if you're at work and can't watch the video, you can read the text! : Arctic Fox
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  I disagree about their Recon role - once you unlock shotguns - they are an effective assault unit for clo... : dedgecko
  • I doubt noobs have unlocked the shotgun. : marmite
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  How is this informative? Pretty much everything pointed out seems very obvious to me coming from a PC FP... : zebosausamite
  • the video is made for console players since he talks about xbox/ps3 controllers. : Iwannaacura
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    As someone who hasn't touched an FPS game since BF2 first came out and is just getting a PC that can hand... : Do_Or_Die
    • q key by default to spot on PC, btw. : Xevo
    • I figured the spotting out by looking at my key bindings, and the spawning is kinda obvious if you play a... : zebosausamite
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      Too bad they don't just actually give you a decent Game manual with that kind of info in it. DICE have n... : wytefang
      • Or how about the system of tutorial tips that appear one time like in a bunch of other games. This m... : zebosausamite
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      I spot guys all the time and get a ton of "Spot Assist +20" points for it. It's a no-brainer and helps th... : Goncyn
      • I live on those +20 point bonuses. : bosst0ne
      • its so frustrating piloting a apache or blackhawk when people arent spotting, people are hard to see zoom... : oHnOES
      • 'Q' 'Q' more! I spot like crazy. This is borderline (hax!), but if I know of a common sniper location, I'... : dfay
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    Counterpoint: Last night I spent an entire round in a single UAV, start to finish. I destroyed at least 2... : Arctic Fox
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      Sounds like a POS team. : MercFox1
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        Oh they were horrible. Just using it as an example of the people who could use this vid. If one medic dec... : Arctic Fox
        • I was asking if it is more of a problem on consoles than PCs. : zebosausamite
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      And that's why I suspect this game will fail with the mass public but succeed with die-hard fans of the s... : wytefang
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        BC2 is one of the most casual/pub friendly BFs ever. It will succeed tenfold in comparison to what past t... : dewdman
        • ^^ Agreed, I have not liked BF series at all since the original... I do like this one so far. : ShadowRam
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          I see nothing terribly different about this "new" game that would make it any more casual-friendly than p... : wytefang
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            Well, that's unfortunate! I guess I'll spell it out: - Reduced classes/kits to 4 "archetypes" - Compl : dewdman
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              That health regen is so overplayed, it's almost functionally nothing. Which I like because Medics are imp... : MercFox1
              • hehe, yeah. I think it's just right and they did an excellent job balancing it; useless if you're consist... : dewdman
      • Eh - as long as you have 1-2 squads that are good on each team you should be fine. If there's 1 good s... : dedgecko
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      FFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU For the record you didn't shoot down my apache, a damn AT emplacement from our : dewdman
      • I'll get your dogtag sooner or later :P. : Alco23
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      I find that most people seem to have no idea wtf is going on in the demo, and a single squad of people wh... : Begawkiness
      • Yeah while this is mostly true, I think as more people get familiar with the game it will get better. Als... : Alco23
  • This is exactly what I thought, it was all common sense stuff to me. : atom519
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    haha what? this shit is not obvious. you can pick it up if you ask people and after a few hours of play... : dantastic
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      Seems completely obvious to me having played ANY game that has ANY sort of class system. : zebosausamite
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        I know I spam the shit out of the spot button in TF2 when I'm playing Medic. : Xevo
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          If anything, I can see spotting being new thing, but the rest is obvious. I never played much of the oth... : zebosausamite
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            luckily someone told you to do it and how it worked, much like this guide is doing for people who don't p... : Xevo
            • Doesn't the in-game tips and hints tell you multiple times to hit the spot button? : atom519
            • No one told me how to do it. I looked at my key bindings and tried to figure out what "issue command" me... : zebosausamite
            • i wouldnt have known how it works if i wasn't playing with a friend and asked him. : dantastic
  • Well it's informative for those that still play like a noob :P. i.e. people who still don't know how (or ... : Alco23
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  that was great : onji
  • it sounded like the angry video game nerd's voice : oHnOES
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  Great video, I like the style it had. Bonus points for using the song Bad Company by Bad Company. : SigmaDraconis
  • And it really can't be said enough how useful Spotting is for everyone on your team. I wish the feature ... : SigmaDraconis
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  on a side note, isnt the game being updated today!?!? : oHnOES
  • that's what they said yesterday, that the client patch couldn't be tested in time for release yesterday a... : Xevo
• Well done but the dude has an annoying voice : bolneze
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  informative + douchy. that guy sure hates modern warfare two : razorblade79
  • Yeah, it apparently takes no skill to play MW2 and every game ends in a nuke. : Fred Garvin
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  I like how he pointed it out in the video, but I can't tell you how many times I've spanned my social but... : hoopfam4
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    Yeah no one really pays attention, I think people playing the assault class forget they can give ammo and... : Begawkiness
    • I definitely forgot about it at first, but after someone specifically asked me a couple times I got the h... : Goncyn
    • I didnt know you could do this at first. I thought it was engineers lol : bolneze
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    I didn't know how to ask for ammo or health, now I know... (I thought it was a spotting only button) : ShadowRam
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      spot button: spots enemy soldiers / vehicles requests aid from a teammate who has the proper kit (a... : Xevo
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        ^^^ the last one here is pretty important, I should have put that earlier... PROTIP ALERT : Xevo
        • shit, i *knew* this before and forgot :( : xsoulbrothax
      • You can also request a pick up from vehicles like the old days too just pointing at them. : Sailor of Fortune
  • Yeah in BF2 if idiot teammates ignored me like that I would just shoot them a bit with the pistol to get ... : deject
  • The game lacks the feedback that BF2 had (huge halp icons, language options actually working etc). : Beady
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  I would really like some sort of UI indicator for the Spotting cool down, or the cool down should be redu... : dedgecko
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    I've never noticed a cool down. I'm sure I've spotted 4-5 guys in a row before. : marmite
    • most noticeable while using the UAV : oHnOES
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      There's a cooldown if you spam it, as long as you don't press the button more often than once a second or... : Xevo
      • AH. now that wasn't obvious, but i definitely noticed it and figured i was on cooldown : xsoulbrothax
      • Holy shit, really? I've been wondering why sometimes I'm looking straight at an enemy, but for some reaso... : thetangent
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    Is it possible to spot multiple people with one press of the spot button? Sometimes I hit spot in rapid f... : TheQuad
    • Yes if you are pointed at a group of guys one button press will spot all/most of them. : Begawkiness
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    I agree, or I'll find a way to alias/bind Q to all movement keys. : Downforce
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      or actually, make the UAV more worth while and have people actually use it to spot. it's spot duration an... : Downforce
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        well there's an unlock for vehicle's secondary fire that the PC beta doesn't have access too. Bradley ... : dedgecko
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          both tanks actually get a machine gun that the driver can shoot. The AA tank's one sucks because it seems... : Xevo
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            ...bummer - I thought I read somewhere that the tank's main gun got a zoom for it's secondary. Two MG'... : dedgecko
            • I never tried anything other than the main gun when using one on 360. I'll think to try it out next time,... : Xevo
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          interesting. since so far the UAV driver forfeits so many points, I was hoping to spot a lot more stuff a... : Downforce
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            I think the thing to do for the UAV is turn on the vehicle radar (though I've never confirmed if this wor... : dedgecko
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              oh wow I didn't even think to try that. I bet it's range limited in all directions though :( but hey, wit... : Downforce
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                Go pro and run people over with the UAV while your missile is on cooldown. Gets you a sweet little <DEATH... : MercFox1
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                  I get to use the UAV so rarely I find myself missing the first missile and then ragequitting it. you c... : Downforce
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                    I love it, calling out stuff from on high and dropping missiles on unsuspecting tanks and people is so gr... : MercFox1
                    • fuck your ceiling! once the T-90 gets a driver's machine gun you are FUCKED!!! lol. at least you have so : Downforce
          • Heh, I get tons of points going nothing but UAV driver. dropping missiles on tanks and bradley IFV, apach... : MercFox1
      • I think only UAV and Recon class should be allowed to spot. (or at least make it that way in Hardcore mod... : ShadowRam
  • oo there is a cool down :( : kanix
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  His message is getting lost behind his arrogant whinging. : Fred Garvin
  • exactly. sounds like the AVGN guy without the humor : Shai-Tan
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    I don't care if I get banned for this: post+username : dewdman
    • Hahahahahaha : thetangent
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      Yeah, no worries you won't get banned... : Fred Garvin
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        Plus, post+username involves a play on the username. Now if you made a comment about attention whoring th... : Fred Garvin
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          Let it go Fred. : Arctic Fox
          • That's what she said! : Fred Garvin
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    How is it arrogant? Everything he says is completely true. I see people doing this dumb shit ALL the time... : Godhatesfatpeople
    • I'm so glad he mentions the small things people need to do. Like mowing down trees. Which I always loved ... : Godhatesfatpeople
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      To be clear the the arrogance is his attitude towards MW2, which is a different style of game play. BC2 l... : Fred Garvin
      • So that's the problem you have? Because he's right. The statements he's making about MW2 is people try ti... : Godhatesfatpeople
• haha that video gets mad props for using Bad Company's Bad Company, love that song. http://www.pixelenemy... : dewdman
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  I am enjoying hardcore mode. vehicles are extremely important, and engineering usage goes up about 10 tri... : Downforce
  • I disagree with the wet napkin metaphor, I've been on some amazing Defensive stops while in normal mode. : MercFox1
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    There is hardcore mode? Why have I not played that :( : timaste
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      minimal HUD (you can't see ammo count, vehicle damage %, no minimap, etc), FF is on, snipers one shot kil... : Downforce
      • i loved hardcore but one of the annoying things about it is the lack of crosshair in UAV. : hanged_man
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        Is this only in the PS3 demo or something? I have the PC version and have yet to encounter a server runni... : timaste
        • PC servers have it for certain good sir. the hardest part is rezzing people. lol. mostly if you die, you... : Downforce
      • Also you don't autoheal. So medics dropping medkits becomes much more critical for survival. : Arctic Fox
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        Where is this server?!?!?! I NEED this : ShadowRam
        • search for them they usually have HC/HARDCORE in them : Iwannaacura
• Haha that was really awesome and helped me out since i am not that good yet. Also it sucks not being on a... : Dschinghis Khan
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  Check this video out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcBKsLbyniw LOL reminds me of those Halo trick vi... : Iwannaacura
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    how are they doing that? is the friendly tank shooting C4 or mines or something else? it's clear that the... : Xevo
    • i think its the friendly shell launching him. or maybe a c4? : Iwannaacura
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      Mines - there's a stack of them at the base of each jump point. I believe they have a greater blast ra... : dedgecko
      • ok cool, I'll have to play around with this later. : Xevo
    • WHy don't they bail off the bike while in air, and then land safely? : ShadowRam
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    Haha I saw something like this last night. Defenders had stolen the tank and shot an oncoming quad with t... : timaste
    • d0gbert and I strafed the light armored apc last weekend from behind with the apache. We blew it up and i... : Grimmadog
• I will watch it when I get home. : cjcharv
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  WTF? You can't get to enemy UAV controls, they are always out of your area of engagement. You will auto-d... : retarded talking dinosaur
  • yes you can. : Dschinghis Khan
  • only true of the first point. : dedgecko
  • False, I've hijacked the enemy UAV and killed people with it for great luls. Downside is that they know w... : MercFox1
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    I noticed while watching some Xbox gameplay footage the those boundaries were different (or non-existant?... : hoopfam4
    • Oh wow yeah that is definitely different : Begawkiness
    • They've definitely made the attackers boundary less restrictive in the Xbox demo (which is supposed to be... : Xevo
    • yeah, there are a number of differences like that. that ground level stationary at gun at the first objec... : feek
    • You still have enough time to sprint up the hill though and knife 1-2 snipers and drop back down before t... : ant_hillbilly
  • Only in the first segment : timaste
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  I don't understand video game marketing. Nothing I've seen from EA makes me want this game or want to pla... : Dynotaku
  • yup I didn't get hyped for it 'til I saw the giantbomb quick look video. It was nuts. I've been hooked ev... : moe6
  • I've been saying the same thing ever since I first saw a Giant Bomb quicklook. Video of someone actually : Goncyn
• That's great, now maybe the rest of you slackers can pick up more points :D : moe6
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  They need one of these for MAG. People fucking camp offense! The defenders respawn every 20 seconds. T... : Boxelder
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    Did they fix the frame rate with MAG? I played the last beta, at least before the last patch, and it was ... : moe6
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      Yeah, I guess they fixed it, because I never notice it. That said, i'm not one to demand 60fps. : Boxelder
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        it was consistently in the 20's when I was playing :-/. : moe6
        • I'd imagine with that many players it can vary pretty wildly depending on what's going on. : Boxelder
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  fuuuuuuu no patch again today :(::(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(: : Iwannaacura
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    link to the forums where this was officially stated? or just speculation? : Xevo
    • its ok the ea/uk forums i just restarted lost the link but some dice duder posted i think someone linked ... : Iwannaacura
    • http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/battlefield-bad-company-2-pc-beta/893838-patch-r3-status-update.html : onji
  • I noticed last night that they are up to their 7th revision of the server software though, so updates app... : Arctic Fox
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  I wish the spotting would be less flaky with foliage and wouldn't expire when the guy never leaves your l... : Code RedBeard
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    it's plenty good as is, and they had to give it some restrictions. : Xevo
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      I like it, but I still think it's flaky. I've had people standing in a fairly open area and it doesn't w... : valael
      • Yeah, I've had plenty of times where enemies are right in front of me and in plain sight, but I can't spo... : Gnowknayme
  • I hate foliage and the motor strike, twice i have called down the rain on myself because the targeting re... : BubbaPut
• Only half way done, but this is great read. Already feel like I'm a better player. : TPSReport
• That video was great. : bakanoodle
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  haha awesome video : Godhatesfatpeople
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    Watching this video highlights just how fucking bad people are at this beta. When I constantly read peopl... : Godhatesfatpeople
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      "BC2 is more like the Electric Slide than Break Dance." lol : Godhatesfatpeople
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        I also just realized his FOV is a lot better than what I have in the beta. Is there a way to hack files s... : Godhatesfatpeople
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          If he's playing on the console it might be because it's 16:9 rather than 16:10 or whatever your res is. A... : pyide
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            It's pretty awesome that a Battlefield PC game finally supports widescreen properly, even triple monitor ... : pyide
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              I really hope they allow for an FOV adjustment :( : Godhatesfatpeople
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                They've already said that it''ll be patched in at some point, but it isn't a priority. : Arctic Fox
                • Great news :D : Godhatesfatpeople
          • Excellent. Thank you. : Godhatesfatpeople
• Even experts practice the basics. : Sailor of Fortune
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  • rofl : Arctic Fox
• he forgot Rule #0: GET IT ON PC : smax

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• AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH : multisync
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  HOLY FUCK SHIT : pancake humper
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    Not in the beta :( Hopefully Blizzcon keys get sent out soon. : pancake humper
    • yeah what the fuck. i can't believe i didn't get my blizzcon key when the first wave went out. : chrisschutz
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      WTF! You had a legitimate key! : abrasion
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        I meant invites for Blizzcon people but the update from Blizzard about these keys does not sound promisin... : pancake humper
        • :( you totally deserve to get in. Good luck man. : abrasion
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          I fully expected blizzcon people to be in the start of the beta. I am so disappointed. : chrisschutz
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            They are, see my bottom post : abrasion
            • nobody with blizzcon keys has gotten an email : chrisschutz
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  oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck : maulla
  • fuck you I didnt get in :( : maulla
• Nuclear launch detected indeed Prepare for internets failure : MercFox1
• nope. yay! : pyide
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  Just loaded up my game. This is AWESOME : ateam311
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    On a scale of 1 to 10, with 10 being awesome, how many notches above 10 is it? : MercFox1
    • Game sucks man : ateam311
• Not in my profile :( dangit : kgargs
• AAAAH WAHT THE FUAKDJAKSEJTASEKJTKASCK : Danny5225
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  I am not in, fuck everybody and everything I'm going to go throw myself out a window : Yanks
  • lol : [7]kami
  • I'm sure I did't get in : jonin
• DEFCON 1 : Foxhawk
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  MOTHER. FUCKERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRS. : DrWaffles
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    Whose dick do I have to suck to get in the beta? : DrWaffles
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      a hydralisk : indosauros
      • I'm considering it : themaestro2657
• I don't have it :( Fuck. : giant boy detective
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  Ah, fuck me! I can't check it right now because of that fucking authenticator! : Clasifyd
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    I think my account got stolen. I've never had an authenticator but it asks me for an authenticator key wh... : malloc
    • With the availability of it on iPhone/Android and the actual authenticators being $6, I figured it's a sm... : Clasifyd
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  Official Please give me an invite subthread. : multisync
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    I am pretty sure the beta doesn't have invites? : Yanks
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      not true, friend and family almost always have invites/keys for blizzard stuff : multisync
      • In that case I'll fight you for it >:( : Yanks
      • not anymore! : pancake humper
    • GIVE ME AN INVITE! : giant boy detective
  • OMG SEND ME AN INV SHACK NAME @ GMAIL, THX BROS : TreMetal
  • I am sitting my butt down right here at the front of this line. : MercFox1
  • dont give this faggot an invite, he'll play it for a day and give up because he sucks at it : maulla
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    Sign me up. I'll send gifts. : virus
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      man, if i had one I would TOTALLY trade it for an android figurine. : Cheeziologist
      • I will totally trade something nice for one. : virus
  • I'd love an invite if at all possible. : The Grolar Bear
  • I'll take one please! : Sailor of Fortune
  • OMG OMG OMG actually if it's just a multiplayer beta then I'm probably not going to be the guy they'd wan... : Rotten Deadite
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    I don't think it works that way. The only public ways in are Blizzcon codes and the opt-in. : Felraiser
    • There's a way to redeem codes, I'm sure they can give out those beta codes selectively. : Sailor of Fortune
  • Hallo there or rather How do you do you do? : locater16
  • Here please! : cyclonebee
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  #$%#$%kj5kl24j3 : kainen1
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    update: shebabbbbbabbk2lj34j34j : kainen1
    • I just used that as a beta key. Thanks! : redfive
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  Is that some kind of space adventure game or something? : dumb.
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    What does crafting how to do with space? : TreMetal
    • need more minerals : Fooldozer
• I'll stay awake to watch random people play a beta on the internet :( : razorblade79
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  Did you guys have a blizzcon beta key thing? : pyide
  • i did, but no email yet. : chrisschutz
• SHIT SHIT SHIT I didnt get in :-( : conandan
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  Did anyone get in? so far we have no one in this thread who has actually gotten an invite. Not really to ... : Yanks
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    I've only seen fansite members saying they can download it... : yAak
    • this is the press/fansite phase of invites : pancake humper
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      This is what I'm thinking. They probably are releasing it in waves too. I wonder if the Shacknews Staf... : Sailor of Fortune
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        They should hook anyone with more than 10000 posts up with keys. Am I right? : Yanks
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          YES. : mwasher
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            fffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu-- * spams posts * : yAak
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              I will sell 10,000 posts for $300! : mwasher
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                I think they should just invite anyone who registered before 2003. ^_^ bwahaha : yAak
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                  fuck! i didn't even start posting until late 2007 : mwasher
                  • Yeah, that would screw me out of it too :/ : one random winner
        • ill agree with this : oHnOES
        • 20k : cltcprd
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          50k imo : electroly
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            100k : Degenerate
            • it's too bad shackstats hasn't been updated in months. probably have a whole bunch of century club membe... : electroly
            • chatty bitch : cltcprd
        • 30k : maulla
        • its all about quality not quantity : Unleashed
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        I'm downloading the beta now. : Alice O'Connor
        • This is the hottest thing you've ever posted. : yAak
        • That's what she said. : Sailor of Fortune
        • As am I. And i'm neither press nor fansite = ) : pixelat3d
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          prove it. : noobja
          • Its all about dong size. : Lightzout
• posting in epic thread of history. : g0nk
• Best of luck to all those who got in... : five_percent
• I don't see anything different on my bnet account page. I guess that means I didn't get in =/ : Sailor of Fortune
• i don't think i got in yet :( : RetroRedEyeJr
• I'm constantly f5'ing my battle.net account page in the hopes that SCII somehow pops up. : giant boy detective
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  I'm excited about this in theory, but the last few times I played SC, I got wiped out with amazing rushes... : Dynotaku
  • 7 VS 1 COMP STOMP $$$BIG GAME HUNTERS$$$ could be your solution! : veras
  • me too, there will be plenty of noobs playing you have to imagine though. : kainen1
  • There are skill-based tiers actually. B.net2.0 has some skill-based matchmaking stuff in it, which I'm s... : yAak
• Aaahhhh Dayumn. I haven't checked yet but I doubt I got in. Exciting news though. Do I sound excited? Wel... : Lexicon_Leidun
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  SOMEONE HOOK A A NEWLY SINGLE BROTHER UP WITH A KEY! : mwasher
  • I am newly single too! : Lightzout
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  I see an icon in my account. Does that mean I got it? 500$ for my account, SC + Diablo 2 free bonus. Ask ... : ryuuseki
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    The SC beta icon? I think everybody has that. : The Grolar Bear
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      we all have it yea : multisync
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        So you're already in, then. : Ebu
        • Coworker just checked his acct and he definitely doesn't have an SC2 icon : Ebu
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      http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y225/almerrick/sc21.jpg is the kind of icon he's likely talking about. : Felraiser
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        Fucking goddammit is this your account? : mwasher
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          No. Source is http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=112596 : Felraiser
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            Oh it looks like press / fansite only right now. Still hope! : mwasher
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              From what I'm reading, it's the exact opposite - opt-ins out, press/site keys not. That could be wrong, t... : Felraiser
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                if I don't get into this then I will murder people : mwasher
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                  Start by killing yourself so we don't have to read your needy posts. : Felraiser
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                    hey the logout button is up there buddy! see ya. : mwasher
                    • It's ok, he's just a chump : ateam311
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                    Hey, back the fuck off mwasher. : ateam311
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                      actually felraiser has a point, getting tired of seeing him spam grovel myself : kainen1
                      • Oh look, I saw kgargs and knew you were here trollin' somewhere. Joy. : ateam311
                      • what? : mwasher
                  • Hey today is my turn to flip out for no reason in threads buddy : tashtego
      • ^^^wtf what a shitty account all he has is Starcraft!! and wow trial :( : Iwannaacura
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        I have that icon too, but I don't see anywhere to get the client. : Ecks
        • same : derelict515
    • Now that 500$ is a gamble and a half! : ryuuseki
  • screenshot plz : giant boy detective
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    It means you opted in to be selected for the beta. : Sailor of Fortune
    • Hahahahah, fuck my life. I remember when the beta opt in started. I was going to download the client when... : ryuuseki
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    I'm betting beta accounts will go for way more than $500 : sanchez
    • those Blizzcon SC2 beta passes have been goin for $200-300 on ebay. : smax
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  how can you tell? I see a little SCII icon but all it does is link to the beta profile settings. : kek
  • It means you opted in, that's all. : The Grolar Bear
  • You'd see the game box next to your other games : Phreakin
• Great, another game I won't be any good at. : c0bra
• Good, maybe the Internet will be a little quieter for a while >:( : Deathlove
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  Holy shit, I just realized this will be blizzards first RTS in a fucking DECADE. What in the hell. : sammyl
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    what? Warcraft 3 in 2002, WC3 Frozen Throne in 2003 : yAak
    • let him have his moment, meanie : multisync
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      RTS? : dumb.
      • Oh duh I was thinking WoW : dumb.
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  Battle.net Servers Busy Battle.net is currently experiencing a high volume of traffic which is affecti... : EricZBA
  • Obvious post is obvious :3 : MercFox1
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  Someone buy my key before I cave in... argh! : ghost in my shell
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    Name price : LoioshDwaggie
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      ^^ : mwasher
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        i can get you a key and the polar bear mount for the low low price of $750. i take paypal : electroly
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          ah man I forgot to opt in my girlfriend's battle.net account. lol. : mwasher
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            how would you feel if your girlfriend got into the beta and you didn't and you two broke up and she would... : electroly
            • I have her account info, I just logged in to check. I will be opting it in when I get home. (She doesn'... : mwasher
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      Ebay price or something more realistic in hundreds of dollars? : ghost in my shell
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        Buy it now starts at $250. : ghost in my shell
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          I'll do it. How do you take payment? : LoioshDwaggie
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            Check your shackmsgs. : ghost in my shell
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              Check'd, thank you sir. : LoioshDwaggie
              • I hope they decide to make it public tomorrow : Cihte
            • haha... can't believe people are hitting 250$ for a freakin beta... damn blizzard games being so awesome : mnok
      • Name it. Then we will vote upon your shacktitude based upon your offer. :) : LoioshDwaggie
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    Sold out! : ghost in my shell
    • Holy crap, I hope I get a key so I can sell it. : FrenchVanilla
  • Sold out! : ghost in my shell
• Should I change my system specs to an i7-960 with 5770 from my MBP? I hear the Mac client will be late. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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  We plan on inviting players in waves, so if you do not receive an invitation in the beginning of the test : smax
  • I don't care man, I want it nooooow! :< (I know it's not your fault!) : Dontdrop
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  I look forward to the live-streaming. I'll gladly settle for a vicarious fix over nothing at all. : graah
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    nazgul is already livestream on teamliquid (well, if hes not this second he will be soon) : Blucklesworth
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      watching :( this twitterism will not stand : Foxhawk
      • I may set up a stream if I start playing tonight. : LoioshDwaggie
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      Watching him completely fail at figuring out how to log in to Battle.Net with an audience of 2000 people ... : deveus1
      • lol i finally got control of the chat oh my lord people are idiots : Blucklesworth
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      Link? : Dontdrop
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        http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=Chill : graah
        • apparently he toned down his graphics to shit : [7]kami
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  i got it~~~~!~!~! : jayares
  • Prove it, full screen shot with your shacknews window on the side : FrenchVanilla
• WE REQUIRE MORE BETA INVITES : SockMonkeh
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  man, if you think of how many people have battle.net accounts thanks to WoW, even if only 50% of them opt... : smax
  • i bet it's way, way less than 50% : electroly
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    I think you have to link your WoW account to the Battle Net website, it's not automatic. I bet there are ... : The Grolar Bear
    • there was a cut-off point where you had to do it or your login would not work until you did. it was manda... : das_runt
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      I thought blizzard made a requirement of battle.net accounts for WoW sometime last year. : smax
      • In November. : LoioshDwaggie
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        Nope. Mine are still detached, for whatever reason. : walker270
        • ha, if it was in November.. that would explain why : walker270
      • yup. it's required to log into wow, but they didn't automatically merge any accounts. you can have a wo... : electroly
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  So if I have an invite, start the blowjob line here : Phreakin
  • Free washes for a year? :( I don't know. I only have maybe $100 I would spend on this, but I know that... : mwasher
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    Blowjob line ends here :( : Phreakin
    • looks like man washer is getting lucky : Psigun
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      How appropriate that manwasher is the winner! : MercFox1
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        It appears Phreakin was being deceptive. : mwasher
        • Sorry mwasher, I wasn't trying to be ;( : Phreakin
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    :( http://www.shackpics.com/files/CapturePNG_xwen6a7bzkhdyli1g3vf.png : Phreakin
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      why do you have 2 wow accounts? : Iwannaacura
      • Refer a friend FTW! : Phreakin
• KEY ME, STAT!!! : MurrayTheSkull
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  Haha, downloading client. I don't even like Starcraft :D : Ebu
  • Arrrrgh. : Dontdrop
  • TROLL ELSEWHERE PLEASE : chrisschutz
  • OMG : FrenchVanilla
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    http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=droidUpload_jbakjf3puxeqz9ule9jp.jpg : Ebu
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      An OSX client? That's awesome! : r_picmip 5
      • there is no OSX client for beta right now, you'll notice its grayed out. : yAak
  • what the fuck is this post : MercFox1
  • :(((((((((((((( : razlebol
  • GET THE FUCK OUT : Foxhawk
  • Liar : Sailor of Fortune
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    i hope someone from blizzard sees this and yanks it from your account >:( : Unleashed
    • I just spoke to dag, he got in and you know how he fucking hates MP games >:(((((((((((( : Klebold
    • I fit into the casual crowd : Ebu
  • lol! : Godhatesfatpeople
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    were you an opt-in? : yAak
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      I ran the little app ages ago. Whenever the shack first learned of its existence. : Ebu
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        ahh, so thats a yes. did you get an email? or just log into battle.net to find out? : yAak
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          No email, just checked because you all were going on about it. : Ebu
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            kk, good to know. thanks for replying =) : yAak
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              No prob. I'll check it out a bit, if for no other reason than to lord it over my friends who have been SA... : Ebu
              • Yeah, my suggestion is to avoid versus players. Play vs a "Very Easy" AI, see if you end up liking it! ... : yAak
  • LOL Awesome : royalally
• Im serious, if I do get it, I will sell it for $200 CDN. Cheapest you'll ever see, if I do get it. : FrenchVanilla
• Both my regular opt in accounts didn't get in, but I didn't expect them to tbh. And now the bnetd waitin... : abrasion
• I wasn't in when this thread was started, but I am now (!) : rock elf
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  what the hell is starcraft? : NukemFornever
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    your mom lol : das_runt
    • thousands of korean men are good at it : MercFox1
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  If this is anything like the WarIII beta I'll probably be stuck living vicariously through others videos/... : giant boy detective
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    You too could have enjoyed war 3 with a little bit of bnetd lovin :( : abrasion
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      yeah was that the battle net emulator ? I played war3 beta on that too. :D : barichnikov
      • It was probably some of the most fun I have had gaming. I wonder if it will be done again, lots of work f... : abrasion
    • I played the hell out of I guess all the beta versions of that in college. We had entire dorm blocks play... : Sailor of Fortune
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  Hoarde alert: Not that crazy about RTS game including Starcraft, but I'm glad this will be a new AAA excl... : SnakeIRye
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    This is the only game I'm going to ever camp out for. :D : MercFox1
    • There's already people lining up at Fry's : sreyes22
• I need this so bad. Arrrgh. (not $200 bad though lol) : Dontdrop
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  shit my Blizz authenticator is at home :( 2 more hours of work arg! : LordHellMaX
  • http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/battle-net-mobile-authenticator/id306862897?mt=8 : SqueegyTBS
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  FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU : razlebol
  • UPDATE: FUuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu :((((((((((( : razlebol
• Streaming video of someone playing the game: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=Chil... : cptstern
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  Pancake humper http://www.starcraftmethod.com/livestreams-lumi He used an 08 blizzcon key that he "acqui... : abrasion
  • I just filled out the beta key thing as well. I'm curious to see if it will let me in or if I'll get dela... : LoioshDwaggie
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    I have an 08 BlizzCon key and I'm not in. This is not right. : Nick Breckon
    • i'm thinking it's just a coincidence and he got opt-in beta status independently of his blizzcon key : chrisschutz
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    Me and my brother both have blizzcon keys and we haven't gotten emails, and everyone else on the internet... : chrisschutz
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      Yup. They haven't gone out yet. : LoioshDwaggie
      • pisssssssssed : chrisschutz
  • This shit is so laggy. : Rice-Rocketeer
  • There are no Blizzcon people in the beta. I don't care what that idiot says! : pancake humper
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  Two feeds: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/userstream.php?user=Chill http://www.livestream.com/jobbies ... : Danny5225
  • Oh shit, there it is! : Danny5225
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    The protoss music is so relaxing. Man, I am so sad I didn't get in. I almost want to pay for it. : razlebol
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      yeah, i'm already in love with the music. terran is great too. : smax
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        I'm listening to SC1 protoss music in celebration of this great day! :D : MercFox1
        • I'm not hearing any music. : LoioshDwaggie
  • They really need to fix this Procaster/DirectX focus fighting on the TL stream... : Felraiser
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    Pretty sure second is old released gameplay stuff. Not sure why he linked everyone on his old feed over t... : Danny5225
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      It's back to actual gameplay now, as far as I can tell. : Felraiser
      • 2nd link has actual gameplay but the guy has confessed to being totally clueless as to how to play. Stil... : graah
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  rudds, I listen to bombcast because you sound sexy :C : moe6
  • He hasn't been on in a month :( : pancake humper
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  I have 2 battle net accounts and I dunno if one of mine got in, it might be hard to resist the potential ... : abrasion
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    abby, are you excited right now? : moe6
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      Not immensly so, I'd like to be in it but honestly I am a wc3 guy. I think I am more excited to see what... : abrasion
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        well, you'll be a SC2 guy in a couple of years. : moe6
        • It is possible but I fear unlikely, however I think I will like sc2 more than 1 : abrasion
• this download is slow :( : jayares
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  omg no way http://www.shackpics.com/files/omgJPG_tls6vv7u6fsid4dbhitf.jpg : DrFlammable
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    p. good drawing there dude u should become an artist :) : Felraiser
    • what drawing? : DrFlammable
  • I will pay 300$ right now!!! : abrasion
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    where do you actually download it though? I have that icon and see nothing else... : derelict515
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      You are not the chosen one. : graah
      • I must know whether I'm getting my hopes up for no reason >:( : derelict515
  • lolll : DM7
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  Been watching a bit of a stream, looks IDENTICAL to original starcraft (model types, model graphics, even... : Pandilex
  • wow. just wow : multisync
  • maybe because you are watching in the same resolution as OG starcraft, yathink? : chrisschutz
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    I know this is probably a troll, but Starcraft 1 technically didn't even have models. It'd be much more t... : Felraiser
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      Models as in units. It's more an observation than a troll. What I saw was: - Unremarkable graphics.... : Pandilex
      • Just so you know, Blizzard usually updates the sound / soundsystem a few weeks before release. They've do... : LoioshDwaggie
      • Most of the people live streaming have turned down the graphical settings to facilitate the stream. You a... : deveus1
      • Well, you're making very superficial observations, and some flat-out wrong ones. The sounds are new. W... : Felraiser
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        "I could identify all the units and buildings immediately. " Why is that, in any way, a bad thing? : r_picmip 5
        • haha, gamers : sammyl
        • Dude, if it's a sequel, EVERYTHING has to be new or it sucks cock. You know that! : ateam311
        • It was like I was watching SC1 with a few graphical updates. Anyway I've said my bit, like you say I'm... : Pandilex
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        - Unremarkable graphics. Sure they were better, but they weren't super amazing. A reasonable improve : action wombmate
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          You ask "Isn't this a good thing?" Wouldn't any other game ask these things in a patch or at most, DLC... : Pandilex
          • Yeah i always expect entire new game engines in DLC : chrisschutz
          • I don't hate you for your observations, your observations just seem silly and uninformed. : action wombmate
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          - Unremarkable graphics. Sure they were better, but they weren't super amazing. A reasonable improvem : virus
          • Anyone who's followed PC gaming for the last 15 years should be very familiar with Blizzard's overall des... : action wombmate
          • I assume he was talking about Loiosh'Dwaggie's answer. There will almost certainly be new sounds. But Bli... : Danny5225
      • they don't change the rules of Soccer every year do they? It's basically the same shit. You don't change... : mnok
  • 16:10 resolution is all I need. : Sailor of Fortune
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    but if they changed anything other than the visuals, people would have aneurysms : RikiTiki2
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      They changed a lot. Some people even feared they'd have changed too much! It's a new game, and the MOST s... : Felraiser
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        changed so much that it'll never take hold in competitive or no? : RikiTiki2
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          Impossible to tell until the game nears or passes release, I'd imagine. Both Starcraft and Warcraft 3 wer... : Felraiser
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            i'm sure it'll be fine on its own, but will it convert StarCraft pros or will they reject it? : RikiTiki2
            • That's a more pressing question, yeah. Again, it'll be tough to tell which people will like better until ... : Felraiser
  • Waaaaaa, I want my sequels to be 100% different than the other ones, waaaaa. : DM7
  • LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL : Blucklesworth
  • A bit? You're either trolling or clueless. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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  While I'm at it: I am Commander Loiosh, and ghost in my shell is my favorite store on The Shack. : LoioshDwaggie
  • The shackadel : LoioshDwaggie
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  "The email process has started and with the number of emails that are going out, it will take a while for : yAak
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    do they say anything about if all the battle.net accounts have been updated for opt ins? :( : mwasher
    • Nope, its not clear if all the opt-ins have had their b.net accounts updated or not... it is apparent tha... : yAak
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    But you would probably already have the download link into your account even without the email though lik... : razlebol
    • Correct. No email yet, but I had the download link. : Ebu
    • well, the emails are for people who already have keys from blizzcon and such. Opt-in don't get an email, ... : chrisschutz
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    My brother just said that it's possible not all blizzcon keys will go out this wave? Can anyone confirm o... : chrisschutz
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      See below: http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23280178142&sid=3000&pageNo=5#82 : LoioshDwaggie
      • "a large number" I spent "a large number" of dollars to go to blizzcon so i better be in the first wav... : chrisschutz
    • Its probably true. Even F&F invites (which I'm in) are going out in waves as the keys are made available. : Serpico74
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  Seen in the StarcraftMethod stream: build order readouts after games. Nice! : Felraiser
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    commence the build order wanking. this is why i hate RTS games : oHnOES
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      LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL : Blucklesworth
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        ETA on getting Nony set up on the TL stream? I'm excited! :) : Felraiser
        • Nuke...ular launch detected! : LoioshDwaggie
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  yet another live stream: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/1up-game-night : graah
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    these fuckers need to STOP TALKING : Yanks
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      How can a collective of 5 guys on a video game site have NO idea how SC works? This is hilariously bad. : graah
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        Thank god somebody else said this. I'm terrible at RTS games, and I watched this stream for about 20 minu : jet-poop
        • Nope, the horrible players will give up after the first couple days, nothing but good to effing incredibl... : Serpico74
        • On your last point - yeah, it kind of is. If you ever queue a unit, you're using the resources to buy tha... : Felraiser
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    Wow, I thought I was bad at this game, holy shit : Serpico74
    • Goddammit, I want to punch this guy, holy crap : Serpico74
    • Yea, this game is pretty ridiculous. : hoopfam4
  • Would like to watch a stream where they know what they are doing. : Klebold
  • They just started a 2v2, and the 1up guys ended up with a computer team mate : hoopfam4
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  To the rich shackers, go ebay that shit! http://cgi.ebay.com/Blizzcon-2008-WOW-Polar-Bear-Mount-with-Star... : Magmaticzebra
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    Already done, son: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=22190728#itemanchor_22190728 : LoioshDwaggie
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      hey since you are rich you should buy me i will hug you. : mwasher
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        I'll stop him from hugging you if you get me one. : Magmaticzebra
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          Well, I was a little confused. I thought it was a SCII beta key (as in, put into battlenet, get SCII NOW)... : LoioshDwaggie
          • well now that you have two how about you hook me up with one! D: : mwasher
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            This may be some help... a blue post regarding Blizzcon keys/invites: http://forums.battle.net/thread.h... : yAak
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              Good news. Hopefully it is sooner rather than later. : LoioshDwaggie
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                I'm just hoping it will run on my crappy PC when the game is actually released. : Magmaticzebra
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                  The minimum system requirements for the Starcraft II Beta are as follows: PC Minimum Requirements: â... : yAak
                  • Oh, at release? The beta specs i just posted aren't final release specs... : yAak
          • Omg, gimme grunty! Gimme keeeeeys! =( : Pacalon
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  I called it yesterday, no one believed me! : iwonthelottery
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    We still don't believe you. : The Grolar Bear
    • i don't even believe myself : iwonthelottery
  • nice. you should play the lottery. : sammyl
• If you check out justin.tv there's a bunch of streams of ppl playing in the beta : edge198
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  Apparently some standard opt in people have gotten in. : abrasion
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    Yeah, I've got one of my accounts set up with Mac info, and one with PC info, so hopefully I'm doubling m... : sammyl
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      Mac beta isn't out yet, so I don't think that will help : Serpico74
      • yeah I had updated my profile with mac info :( need to get home to revert it back to pc : zakazi
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    how do we know? email? the little SC2 beta icon people have posted pics of in this thread? : derelict515
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      You get a full size game icon in your library of games. Nit just the little green opt in one. The emails... : abrasion
      • oh I see. Then :( : derelict515
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    Yeah, I'm in and I merely opted in when the "Beta Profile Settings" stuff appeared on the Battle.net webs... : rock elf
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      What machine specs and os? What email? A comcast / ISP one or free/ibsependant of Internet provider? : abrasion
      • throwing in some schrute bucks and stanley nickels : iwonthelottery
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        Pretty common setup. Win 7, E8400, 8800GT. I'm in Europe, and the email I used was one from my own domain... : rock elf
        • Mmm I did win7 64 bit with an Ati 4890 and my own domain. My other account identical except xp : abrasion
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    i'm one of them : jayares
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      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=22192114 : abrasion
      • w7, 8gb ram, i860, evga 275 co-op. : jayares
      • some dude who overclocked his pc to 4ghz got in : Chandler55
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    yeah, im guessing opt-in activations are done for this week. * sigh * (i have no factual information to... : yAak
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      I also agree that makes sense. Who knows if it will be weekly or fortnightly or even monthly for more peo... : abrasion
      • Invites will probably be entirely based on whatever strains / breaks / fails in Battle.Net 2.0 over the n... : yAak
      • yearly. you should always do twice as much testing as development. so we have a good 20yrs of the beta : multisync
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  TRADING 99 GMAIL INVITES FOR BETA KEY : iwonthelottery
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    I can double that, plus add google wave invites and some HoN keys. : Klebold
    • I can do that + newzbin : valael
  • I got 99 invites, but a Starcraft ain't one. : lolpatrol
• God. Anyone knows if I can download the music anywhere? I'd like to have the mp3s at least as a consolida... : razlebol
• Warning: There is something seriously wrong with the beta and my PC, beware: I didn't get in yet. : DM7
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  Holy shit, I got in! This is going to cut into STO time! : RevRaven
  • i hope you mean completely obliterate it : chrisschutz
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  Hmmm it's a good thing I know some one that works at blizzard. Hehe. : whodares
  • It's a good thing your ass is in NC and my bloodthirsty cock is over here. : pyide
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  I feel like crying right now :( : razlebol
  • so do i razlebol..so do i... : choppp
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  Nony (extremely good amateur, nearly got a Korean pro license, current favorite to win the worldwide amat... : Felraiser
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    3 "very easy" computers... one of each race. hes gunna get rocked! ;) : yAak
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      At least this sort of stuff is more informative than the average let's-screw-around steam. You definitely... : Felraiser
      • oh, yeah, i was just joking around =) im still watching! : yAak
  • Also, this is probably the best-quality stream I've seen so far. I love how clean the SC2 engine looks. : Felraiser
  • Yuk, everyone is playing Protoss, where's the Zerg >:( : DM7
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    lol....the AIs gg out. : miasma&!
    • Haha, yeah, that was pretty funny. : Felraiser
    • LOL just realized that. awesome : yAak
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    the new psionic blast looks awesome. : razlebol
    • err, Psionic storm : razlebol
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    1v1 PvP started, in practice league : yAak
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      Ouch, his build got owned by a gimmicky map design. : Felraiser
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        I think it makes it interesting. Looks like some maps are gonna play very different than others. : razlebol
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          Well, allowing a lot of variation is great, but forcing variation is a little less so. This sort of map i... : Felraiser
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            I'll just wait to play it before judging it.. : razlebol
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              It seems pretty clear that you can't get out of your base with ground units unless you spend significant ... : Felraiser
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                Well I just don't see it as a problem. It could actually be fun and a nice change of pace. : razlebol
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                  Felraiser may be speaking with an eye towards 1v1 tournaments, and maps like this probably wont become st... : yAak
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                    Also, this map probably has a version without those barriers, and maps with rush barriers are probably co... : yAak
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                      Interesting theory about barriers being added in the practice league. Is there any evidence that that sor... : Felraiser
                      • Nah, I am just speculating at this point... : yAak
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                      no way man, everyone who plays this game must play by pro standards. : mwasher
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                        Ugh, I didn't even say that. He's the one who suggested that I was framing my post in those terms. You... : Felraiser
                        • i didn't mean it in a negative way either... : yAak
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                There are lots of "fake island" maps like this in SC, some used in league play. The mechanic that makes t... : miasma&!
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                  Interesting? I think it's pretty lame. It's fine in Starcraft 1 because it was discovered after the game ... : razlebol
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                    Hm, interesting that you'd dislike those "soft barrier" maps but like the "hard barriers" in the map we j... : Felraiser
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                      I'm against glitching. That is all. : razlebol
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                        Even if it enhances or expands gameplay? : Felraiser
                        • Totally... Something like jump strafing in quake is fine. Positioning your units so that they can glitch ... : razlebol
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        lame for him, good for us... we get to watch the match progress behind zealot rush! : yAak
        • behind *beyond : yAak
  • Weird map. All access to main base are blocked. No rush possible. : razlebol
  • hahaha.... warp prism seems ridiculous! there's a reason why recall and nydus canals are far far up th... : miasma&!
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    Is he playing against the computer? I'm surprised there hasn't been any scouting at all. : Serpico74
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      i dont think so, i missed the start of it though : yAak
      • Yeah, he just turtled, built carriers, won. Really different from all the pro games I've been watching, b... : Serpico74
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      there's been no scouting because they have these barriers erected at the entrances to every base. hypothe... : miasma&!
      • I see, that kind of makes sense. All people will do is tech straight up to the top and build stationary d... : Serpico74
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    lol he want back to play starcraft 1 instead. : razlebol
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      Reading the channel chat, looks like he actually just turned the stream off, so it reverted to that video... : Felraiser
      • oh ok. : razlebol
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  when is the 360 beta? : dantastic
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    no one plays games on consoles anymore - pcs are the future, cutting edge graphics, more precise control... : multisync
    • ban yourself : royalally
    • YOU ARE SO EDGY TODAY! : ateam311
    • ONRY COMPUTARS CAN RUN ON TEEE VEEEEEEE's : conandan
    • http://healium.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/obamam-lol-y-u-mad-tho.jpg : Godhatesfatpeople
  • I love watching my brothers play StarCraft on the N64. It was hilarious seeing them play against the inte... : Sailor of Fortune
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  Has anyone else signed up for a ton of betas over the years but never gets accepted into them? This will ... : stoned wallaby crop circle
  • Maybe they will sorry for both of us and let us play Diablo 3 now, eh??? :D : DM7
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  played 1 game and lost, holy crap are marauders powerful. I wish these games let us play against an ai o... : jayares
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    They do. : yAak
    • From Beta FAQ: How do I play against a computer opponent? After launching StarCraft II, you will be ... : yAak
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  There must be some mistake. I didn't get in. : jonin
  • Me either! :< : DM7
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  We're firing up our stream now: http://www.giantbomb.com/news/giant-bombs-starcraft-ii-beta-live-stre... : rudds
  • thanks brad : Nitrium
  • Are you guys better than the 1up guys? : razlebol
  • LIES! WTF : Nitrium
  • wow the graphics suck : Nitrium
  • Wow, much simpler than I thought it would be. : spazzium
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    why are you being dicks and showing nintendo i will fucking fly down there and drop bombs on your crimina... : ArcKnight
    • lol : Colleton
  • I WILL MAME YOU : J4NUS
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    Wtf is this shit? : jonin
    • We're getting trolled to fuck. : ArcKnight
  • sweet : WhatIsThisFor
  • Thats some god damn epic soundtrack. : Techy007
  • Looks like a typical RTS to me. : Nixx2004
  • In game now. Looks like SC1 at this res. : crummynz
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    Love the live stream and commentary. Hate the game... doesn't look like it has moved the RTS genre ahead... : treefingers1
    • What the fuck, how can you make this kind of judgement when it's been on for less than TEN FUCKING MINUTE... : ArcKnight
    • Why wouldn't Starcraft have base micro? If it was like Relic's RTS games then players would cry bloody mu... : Serpico74
    • lol good game, everyone go home : Yanks
    • innovation is far overrated : xjdrake32
    • WC3 for life, yo! : abrasion
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    awesome 320x200 resolution : GloriousCow
    • must be a bad connection because the 2D shit they were streaming before was clearer and better. : pyide
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    Watching the "viewer" counter at the bottom of the stream is more entertaining than the game. They're al... : treefingers1
    • Oh shit! The zergs annihilated Brad. Now it just got interesting. : treefingers1
  • More el jugadore? Fucking yuck ugh terribad. Maybe you guys can get the chat working now. : ArcKnight
  • start the shit already! : jono181
  • Haha, love Jeff's verbal smackdown : Serpico74
• Not in, so not celebrating. : SolrFlare
• I had time for one quick noob game before bed. Oh god, I suck. It went really, really badly. : rock elf
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  Anyone else not interested in this game? I think I am broken, I just haven't had much interest in RTS ga... : ant_hillbilly
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    Relic is the reason why I got back into RTS's. They're my fav RTS dev. So I want to see how this is. : Godhatesfatpeople
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      Relic has supplanted Blizzard as my RTS dev of choice, too : RikiTiki2
      • Shame that Relic doesn't have the resources to support their games, and to provide a decent backend like ... : dedgecko
  • I'm not. : Nixx2004
  • Watching the streams makes me want the game less. Then again, I've pretty much hated all RTS games, ever... : PenicillinX57
  • nope, you are the only one : derelict515
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    I'm not all that excited for it. Probably will buy, but I'm not anticipating it that much. : Nitrium
    • I'm in the same boat, I will probably end up getting it but not at launch. : Dunwich
  • I have never played Starcraft and I have never had even a passing desire to. : basketofkittens
  • I'm not either. COH came out three years ago and it looks like its light years beyond this game. : Medster
  • nope, not a rts fan at all. : shirif
  • you guys want cookies or something? : miasma&!
  • I'm pretty excited for the single player, I don't care nearly as much about the multiplayer. I don't l... : valael
  • Only reason I'm interested in it is for the story - and even then it won't be a day 1 purchase, less ther... : dedgecko
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  I'm in! Anyone want to play? :) : warcrow
  • heyyyyy buddy. how about sharing accounts? ;D : mwasher
• nothing here :( : GoldfishInAJarOfPickles
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  How come there are all these video streams? The beta agreement disallows distributing screenshots and vid... : rock elf
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    I think the NDA was waived today, or something like that. : Felraiser
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      http://forums.battle.net/thread.html?topicId=23280178109&sid=5000 : Felraiser
      • Good to know, thanks. : rock elf
  • Pretty sure nda is probably waived, or rather so many folks will post screens/video that they just wont b... : Iwannaacura
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  So I assume if you got in the game will show up in Battle.net under the "Manage My Games" section? : punchdog
  • Yes. : rock elf
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  I love blizzard games but sc2 doesn't seem to innovate in any sort of way. It's not a bad thing but i don... : jayares
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    I'll take your account :( : razlebol
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      i didn't say i wasn't going to keep playing it! :( : jayares
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        Say it! :( : razlebol
        • you say it >:( : jayares
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    You say this having not played singleplayer at all (sounds very innovative for RTS), having not played en... : derelict515
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      well i've only played a few games but I was able to jump right in and feel comfortable right away. I have... : jayares
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        I'd say good given that initial complexity is a huge turn off to a lot of people in RTS games. The holy g... : derelict515
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          I guess. Almost ever single game I play I wonder "how long is it going to take to learn this, what did th... : jayares
          • But you don't know it. Just because it's familiar doesn't mean you know it in depth any better than picki... : derelict515
    • The single player I played at Blizzcon 09 was pretty cool. Lots of things to do between missions as far a... : Serpico74
  • all i wanted was a high res 3d version of starcraft 1 so i'm happy. there are plenty of old games that i ... : chrisschutz
  • the new b.net infrastructure has been a huge part of it, it's a big undertaking : veras
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    itll be innovative in the sports gaming sense, replays, broadcasting, skill rankings, statistics etc : Chandler55
    • I love how you can examine everyone's build orders after the game is over, really cool. : Serpico74
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      I wonder what percentage of people actually care about that. I know it's big in Korea, but I bet it's a ... : valael
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        People in the US still play SC multi. Its useful for anyone that wants to learn from their own mistakes a... : Serpico74
        • I was talking more about the sports gaming and broadcasting stuff he mentioned. I can understand and app... : valael
      • Blizzard wants to make it popular in more places than S. Korea. These tools will help that along, a lot. : yAak
      • the people who don't care about that will likely still get their fill from singleplayer and souped up SC ... : derelict515
  • Innovation is overrated if you're trying to produce a game that is more than an entertainment product, an... : Felraiser
  • It's because they need to keep the South Koreans happy. What they want is for a large majority of the cas... : Prozium
• lols wii music : jonin
• crap! My computer settings were outdated :( That's fixed now. : Grumbeld
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  I'm in the beta!!!! : fadetofunk
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    GROVEL GROVEL GROVEL : mwasher
    • mwasher i am sick of your fucking groveling i hope you die in a fire so i never have to see you post on t... : ArcKnight
• Damn, the Protoss seem a lot more bad ass in sc2. : jayares
• lol, just watched david kim obliterate someone with 1 million banelings. I'm only exagerating slightly. : graah