Weekend Discussion: Holiday Surprise

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• 590 i am bad at clicking : veras
• 422 : maulla
• 346 : gnomish
• 618 :( : dael
• 520 : jdmSlix
• 442 : Viprime
• 389. Suck it! : evildanish
• 430. : Ctrl-Phreak
• fun =D : action roommate
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  316 thought it was pretty good until i looked at the high scores... 120s? wtf? : skizl
  • apparently flash beta (10.1) is broken : bobk
• awesome... 407. : ThrillKill
• 468 : Magmaticzebra
• ARGH at Boss fight! ..stopped playing at 1014 High is good right : humbleone
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  242 on second run. : omnova
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    207 on third. There must be some trick to the "click repeatedly to win" screens because that is where th... : omnova
    • click fast to boost the speed, then stop clicking for a second as the speed will count down - its the mos... : jbury
• 726 the boss took a few dozen tries. : Prototype
• 343..damn that was pretty good. $1.99 iPhone version in 2 weeks. : jermm
• 296! : santa-s
• Haha, 811... fun game! : King Kavik
• 416 : aethyr
• Wow brilliant design. : Edges
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  463... I eventually discovered to go back and forth between the torches on the Boss fight and got him. F... : empy
  • You can beat the boss with 6 clicks. : omnova
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  318, awesome game. : Blucklesworth
  • 243 second time, like 50 of those on the boss >_< : Blucklesworth
• 462 : ruckboos
• 598, I thought you had to click fast on the "flying" levels, not hold the button :( : boarder2
• 434, that was great fun, thanks :D : Inadrys
• 249 : c_man_tmt
• 504. Damn boss took at least 120 clicks : jcrockerman
• over 9000 : Downforce
• Love the song. : pigvomit
• 606 ` : biskits
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  chirst. 651. at least 200 of that on the boss, but i finally figured it out : mrblarg
  • 329 my 2nd go : mrblarg
• 398 first time : Shadowdane
• 345. What a pain in the ass. : RomSteady
• 502 : acidnynex
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  God fucking damnit this boss fight is annoying. : thetangent
  • Finally!! 499 - I was only at just over 300 going into the boss fight. >:( : thetangent
• 660 that last boss is terribad. : Beady
• 334! : cyclonebee
• Lol, funny. Just the right length. 284. : brickmatt
• fun game until the boss. : ass-street
• 300 : giant boy detective
• The jump mechanic blows, but overall entertaining and creative : fishbone
• 323 2nd turn : supermonkeyballz
• 294 first run : handofthrawn
• 263 : stratedge
• 287 on first run, not too shabby! : chungathebunga
• 441 :( damn speed clicking ruined me : Grumbeld
• 782 I win! : cerealSAM2

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  Buy a PC!!! I rock! : watcherxp
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    Maybe I should build a HTPC but I'd still prefer to use a Xbox 360 controller at this point and that woul... : freakynipples69
    • plus you couldn't play bioshock2 then - OLO : multisync
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  I went to check wikipedia for the dates of release of the PS3 and 360. I got sidetracked by the fact that... : Geoffrois
  • Poor Seychelles. : nwillard
• I actually really enjoy the longer console lifespans. I assume it's going to be another couple of years ... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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  I really really REALLY hope they don't listen to people like you and I hope you're in the vast minority. ... : abrasion
  • Ditto. : surley_monkey
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    i agree with this post : biskits
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      Fable 1 on component cables on a nice quality TV still looks fairly good as does GOW2 component cables on... : abrasion
      • Heavy Rain looks so nice on my television. : tomservo
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    I also agree with abrasion. What game did we have in 2004 that looked like Uncharted 2 or Mass Effect 2? : OmegaRed59
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      Far Cry : spaceyme
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        Uh, you may want to go back and take another look. : Vimn
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          Uh, you might : spaceyme
          • http://gallery.techarena.in/data/1/Far_Cry.jpg http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/877/877... : kungfusquirrel
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    one starcraft 2 comes out you will stop playing baby games : pancake humper
    • We'll see what I think of it, I'm hoping SC2 makes people from SC ditch SC and some move to War 3 instead... : abrasion
  • You want 5? It's going to last 8 years now. There, I hope you are happy now! : enyakk
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    i can't stand any god damn unreal3 engine game anymore. while is suffice with games like mass effect (be... : Hoax
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      Amen to the that. Unreal engine 3 is a shitty engine graphically, and I can't wait for it to be replaced... : treefingers1
      • hah : jonin
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        What the hell is this. I think those games look great. You guys are on crack. : ieGod
        • It's really starting to show it's age. : razlebol
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      Well I don't think Epic is entirely to blame for the engine, at least on the consoles, and honestly I thi : NoCopy
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        It's a shame that while the PS3 has more storage because of Bluray the 360 is more capable of higher res ... : marmite
        • Forza 3 sort of works like this. The second disc is installed and never touched again. : TrptJim
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        Fucked AA on PC Unreal games is such a ball ache, it really is piss poor. I think it's actually a pretty ... : node
        • They're not the only ones making that compromise: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferred_shading : kungfusquirrel
      • DVD space is only really a big issue for video though. For actual in-game textures memory is by far a big... : uncleanmonkey
    • You guys are crazy, it looks just fine. If they were to fix the shadows and the AA it would be better but... : Yanks
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      This is silly. I doubt most people could even tell Batman was Unreal3. : Conan
      • I admit, I was surprised that Batman: AA was Unreal3. : freakynipples69
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        except that shacker who claimed it must be unreal 3 because the characters had wide shoulders : MrBig0
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          its true. minimum requirement for all unreal 3 licenses is wide shoulders. : CoRDS
          • It's not a licensing requirement, it's an actual technical limitation. Narrow shoulders causes the shade... : batkiwi
      • It's easy to spot UE3 -- you see the textures pop in two seconds after the level starts. : Crabs Jarrard
    • This is a completely ridiculous statement. : Rice-Rocketeer
  • I love the longevity we are seeing in consoles right now. My only regret now is that I didn't wait for th... : limpossible
  • iawtp. Im hoping for at least another 2 years out of it. with natal and sony's motion control effort comi... : maulla
  • Would you be happy if the PS3/X360 never came out and we were still on PS2/Xbox? It sounds like you want ... : TrptJim
  • Yeah I'm wrong. I love my Xbox 360 and 2010 has already been a great year for games (ME2 probably one of ... : freakynipples69
  • Yup, not quite ready yet, things coming out are still melting my melon in terms of graphics and game desi... : nodebug
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    I'm pretty sure MS intend to have full backwards compatibility with the 360 for their next console, it wa... : Beady
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      I'm still pissed that PS3 isn't backwards compat. It's one of the reasons why I don't own one yet. : hanfeitzu
      • I bought a used launch PS3 for this very reason. All my old games work! : Topsiderover
      • Well they were, at a substantial price premium. : ieGod
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        I'll trade you my 60gb PS3 with BC for a new Slim. I've used the BC precisely once, to see if it worked. ... : rudds
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          It's funny you mention this actually I've done the same. I used it once with Zone of Enders. The thing is... : ieGod
          • Same. It's a nice dream. :( : rudds
      • Remember, they only took it out because gamers "don't care" about backwards compatibility. Oh...except... : ColoradoCNC
  • Spot on except I hope they go for 5+. : ieGod
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    I'm tired of this upscaling crap. I want my games running at 1080p native. : Turd Ferguson
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      don't hold your breath : derelict515
      • I'll hold my PC instead : Turd Ferguson
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        You don't think viable frame rates at 1080p will be a priority for the next cycle of console hardware? : rudds
        • depends entirely on when it is. I don't know what HDTV penetration is at the moment but even if it's at 5... : derelict515
        • I could see it being a major incentive to upgrade from the current generation, and one-upping the competi... : TrptJim
    • Me too! Not a good enough reason tho, especially considering the graphics on some of these games. : abrasion
    • As long as you don't bitch even once about the increased cost of games due to the huge number of addition... : ColoradoCNC
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    Have you people no imagination? Do you really want the industry to slowly grind to a halt, thinking that ... : locater16
    • there is one useful advantage of keeping the tech around for a while. Overall production costs become a l... : Borzoi
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      I disagree - limitations focus creativity. The best advancements in games often start as workarounds for... : qsylvr
      • I agree that limitations focus creativity. On the other hand, I also think that having more powerful har... : Perturbation
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      Also: "there can't possibly be thousands of developers dreaming of what they could do with more?" If y... : qsylvr
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        Actually, most of them would probably raise their hands. But, that doesn't mean people are ready for new ... : kungfusquirrel
        • On what grounds do you think that most designers would raise their hands? Disclaimer: I am one. : qsylvr
    • Have you no imagination? All you care about is a new hardware gadget and no software innovation? All the... : abrasion
    • I'd prefer games coming out that are actually inventive and original, not just bumpier and shinier. : ColoradoCNC
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    Agreed. Plus, more time needs to pass so that SSDs get cheaper and big. And the FCC needs time to light... : Ride-My-Rocket
    • I totally can't wait for SSDs to get cheap enough that game cartridges can make a comeback. : TrptJim
  • seriously. : AMikaboshi
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  lol wut http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9VRl0hgqbQ : biskits
  • And just when I thought I would never be excited about a Halo game again. : TheVietSpecial
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  Take a look at Halo:Reach. I didn't care about ODST (Fun, but was not on my radar at all), but Reach is e... : sogelegos
  • Haha! should have read Biskits post. : sogelegos
  • Yeah, ODST felt like a pointless remix and the characters looked like ASS. Reach, I am very interested in... : node
• I dunno, I thought ModernWarfere2 looked pretty badass. Heck, CoD4 looked amazing when I played through i... : Prozium
• no not yet. not for 2 more + years. i want the next leap to either be 1080p (as a minimum) and hugely det... : CoRDS
• I can still enjoy PS2 games. MGS3, GoW2, Bully etc. all look good to me. Persona 4 just came out recently... : tcs
• The 360 certainly did not come out in the same month that Halo 2 for the original Xbox came out. : nwillard
• I fine with it. The graphics in games still manages to impress me. : gibolas1234
• has there even been any word on what MS is developing for the next generation? : DonkeyPopsicle
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  The current issue of maximum pc has a build-it-yourself gaming rig for < $650, complete with a quad core ... : ajvitaly
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    and you can miss out on a bunch of console exclusive games and genres? : .Jayson
    • Well since he already has a 360, I was speaking in regards to the cost of pc gaming vs. the cost of conso... : ajvitaly
    • IMO you miss out more not going PC these days. And I love my 360. I know not much gets ported, but there ... : node
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      Uh, no. More like miss out on all the shit exclusive games. : thrallie200
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        lol yeah stupid consoles : derelict515
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          [g360]g: Press A to cover! PS3: Press X to JASON! : Dong Patrol
          • PC: Press keyboard to Shacktag! : Dong Patrol
      • There is a bridge missing it's troll somewhere. : ColoradoCNC
      • How did you escape into chatty? Back to the front page! : batkiwi
    • a bunch? I can think of two 360 games that I would regret not having experienced (but would also be ok wi... : MoreVespeneGas
    • You can miss out on PC exclusives by not having a PC too. While they aren't as much titles, they sure are... : razlebol
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    I've thought about a HTPC (I already have a pretty powerful rig, but I much prefer to game from my couch ... : freakynipples69
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      Fwiw most PC games (especially UE 3 based games) either directly support the 360 controller or at least s... : mn3m0n1c
      • Seems it is a bit of a 2K problem. The recent 2K PC sports titles have controller support, but don't take... : Crabs Jarrard
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  I think they're doing a great job. Nothing looks dated yet to me really. Look at the earlier games how th... : bozer
  • Also, the only thing I want really is being able to download brand new games. : bozer
• I don't think we need any new consoles for at least another 2-3 years. Some of the newer stuff looks ama... : .Jayson
• I agree with abrasion, that with consoles in their prime right now you're nuts to want to cut short these... : thebigbeefsandwich
• some news about the next gen consoles wouldn't hurt. : Pantene Pro-V
• Really? Honestly, I am really of the opinion that graphics are more than good enough for pretty much anyt... : Yanks
• Have you played Forza 3? The graphics are fantastic. : riptyde
• Onlive is a prototype next gen console. : ventro
• Its a good thing that current gen consoles look way better than what we had in 2004! : Serpico74
• Hell yea, I feel you, man. Whenever i play Uncharted 2, I think about how awesome it could have looked on... : roushimsx
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  graphics >>>>> gameplay right : Downforce
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    Going by the critical success of No More Heroes, I guess so! : roushimsx
    • no, that tanked cuz it was on the Wii : Alpha Class Android
• The textures and models look good still. I don't have the mentality that super hi-res makes the world go... : kingdepork
• i never, ever find myself dissatisfied with current console graphics : EvilDolemite
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  I can't stand 2010 gameplay anymore. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • I know! THE FUCK? Can't prone? PRE ORDER CANCELED : Metatron85
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  I am ready for a new system to come out because I just like that feeling of a clean slate that a new syst... : Evil Benius
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    I partially dread when new tech comes out. A lot of times it's plagued with bad gameplay and good graphi... : kingdepork
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      This. I am enjoying this console cycle hitting maturity in terms of what devs can push these machines to... : grendel
      • oh the best time in a console cycle is like 4-5 years in, at least! last year or two is where it's at. : EvilDolemite
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      50% of the launch games on a new console look like a high res version of what the last console could do. ... : abrasion
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        I would love to play GTA4 with a shipload of AA @ 60fps..... : Crabs Jarrard
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          GTA with a persistent world. : moshman
          • oh man, now that would be the shit. : Hiro
      • You reckon? i remember at the time thinking that "Black" was good enough to look like a 360 game and not ... : Klebold
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    The clean slate of a new system, Evil Benius you most certainly are fucking evil aren't you? Here's a de : abrasion
    • When are we getting a new Black anyway? :( : SilverSnake
• gamecube level graphics were fine for SD, 360 is fine for 720p. If anything I want a slight upgrade for 1... : razorblade79
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  Microsoft and Sony lost so much money trying to outdo each other they will let this cycle rest for a long... : handofthrawn
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    They could update their consoles relatively cheaply, I'd think, especially Sony. Just swap out components... : jcupitt
    • I think thats the issue. The main draw of a console is you get the makers of the game to all build for 1... : handofthrawn
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  I've read 10 year cycle for this generation. Sounds crazy, but I think we're still on that pace. : skinlab133
  • Thats what the analysts are thinking. No reason to go back to R&D for a business that loses billions. I... : handofthrawn
  • I remember Sony saying it, and pointing to the ps2 (which is still selling 10 years after launch) as an e... : jcupitt
  • I believe it, if only because all of the crazy motion sensing hardware that's being released later this y... : freakynipples69
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  With MS and Sony both wanting to have this round last as long as possible I wonder if a third party would... : marmite
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    Nintendo will make a surprise announcement about the WiiWii A2A. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • And screw them both over. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• graphics? Gameplay has been the missing element for a long time. awesome graphics or awesome gameplay, c... : yautja
• DO WANT a $500 somewhat reliable microsoft-subsidized box w/ 8 core processor, 4GB of ram, next true iter... : kokujin

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  You made a blog without any idea of what to write? : Bamtan
  • its the cool thing to do! : sreyes22
  • It worked for boring writer! : yosemiteclimber
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  Here's mine: http://www.snackordie.com/ ! : helvetica
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    this is really awesome : MrBig0
    • Thanks! :D : helvetica
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    Argh I always read this as "Snack Ordie" and wonder what an ordie is argh : Moonbase Commander
    • It's like a more organised orgy. : marmite
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    Oh my god that is amazing. : niiftyniichy
    • Thanks to you too! : helvetica
  • I keep reading this as "Snack-ordy," as in rhymes with Geordi, the best Starfleet engineer in the history... : TwiLyght
  • Do you take requests, and if so could you make Chocolate Companion Cubes? : kallanta
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    snack ordie : umegastar
    • I'm not alone!!! : Moonbase Commander
• http://derekmd.com/ : Afterglow
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  This is a sort of blog/calender site i made for my friends to use http://keeptwoapart.com : MrBig0
  • I've got upcoming events at the side and a google calender in the calender link : MrBig0
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  If you don't have an idea for your blog already, maybe you just shouldn't make one. Trying to blog about... : deject
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    It was just a sneaky ploy to see how shackers worded their blog's 'about' and 'contact' sections and plag... : ShekkyBoy
    • That's cool then. : deject
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  My sketch blog: http://zombieacademy.blogspot.com/ I just used a standard template. I've been meaning to... : ZombieAcademy
  • Very impressive. : Poor Yurik
  • Dang, real nice. Do you do any professional work? Or is that just a hobby? : sreyes22
  • Some awesome work there ZombieAcademy : jbury
• www.shacknews.com : gmd
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• edge198.tumblr.com : edge198
• just roushimsx.livejournal.com :( I wound up nuking my wordpress because..hmm..I think because I hated... : roushimsx
• My blog/site of spoiler-free movie reviews: http://www.zerospoilers.com : kallanta
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  oh boy.. here we go.. http://www.chuckmays.com : g0nk
  • *I just started it up a couple days ago. : g0nk
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• Cover systems vary game to game. I think the Gears system works, but the magnetic cover it uses does take... : DialDforDan
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  Whilst I do like being able to hit a key and become immune to enemy fire from a direction, it does simpli... : Aragoat
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    Here's another thing though, it's meta'd out as well in GoW and other cover shooters because in cover you : SpaecKow
    • Very true. It simplifies the combat quite a lot. All you have to do is find the correct piece of cover ... : Aragoat
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  I'm not thinking this through at all and run the risk of sounding like a retard, but my current favorite ... : xsoulbrothax
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    That actually sounds very interesting, modelling properly how fragile cover can be is definitely somethin... : SpaecKow
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      BC2 is awesome for that aspect. The first time I was hiding in a house peskily shooting at troops below a... : noxiousgg
      • I love making my own doors when trying to enter a building :) : Topsiderover
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        bad company has screwed up how i play now, because i expect everything in everygame to break apart now :(... : Alpha Class Android
        • Mag ruined itself, not sure what they thought they were doing releasing less than 6 months post MW2 and w... : dedgecko
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  I'm always a bit surprised when people are so strongly polarized one way or the other. Personally, I find... : veras
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    I do hate 'arena' syndrome where you walk into a field of crates or low walls or whatever and it complete... : veras
    • I liked Serious Sam's version of arena syndrome: giant open area with backpack and armor in the middle...... : delataur
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  It depends on how it's implemented. First off it's a mistake to mention FEAR and Max Payne as "shoote... : K1Bond007
  • Bullet time is a very different thing from cover. The problem with cover isn't that it gives you an advan... : SpaecKow
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  I like the idea behind cover systems a lot - it just makes sense that when a bunch of people are shooting : TheVietSpecial
  • I think RB6: Vegas 1&2 handled cover pretty naturally. I don't remember there being any rooms with a bun... : oO SilentK Oo
• I like having it as an option but I don't like when the entire game is centered around it. I did like Gea... : bozer
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  Playing Crysis Warhead after Mass Effect 2 makes me appreciate how good the combat in Crysis is. Before m... : DrFlammable
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    I want to do this, but I want the enemies to speak Korean. Can I play on an easier difficulty but switch ... : MrBig0
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      dunno. why not just play on Delta? it's not that hard. you just have to use cloak a lot more than you wou... : DrFlammable
      • i was trying to do this, it wasn't too hard though i'd like to use the binoculars like you said to tag du... : MrBig0
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      yeah you can do this, look in the Crysis/game/config directory for some ini's that say something like dif... : MercFox1
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        awesome, thanks man, i've been wanting to do this and play through the games for a while : MrBig0
        • You'll have to change it via the console every save / load / or new level. At least I did on the difficul... : pyide
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  I think Gears of War should be abbreviated GeOW. GoW = God of War : TheIneffableBob
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    Which one sold more? They should get the abbreviation : Dave-A
    • Even though I'm a huge fan of Gears, I think the first game should get the abbreviation. : thecray
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      so cod6=MW2 because mechwarrior sold less? fuck you sir, fuck you! gears of war=gears god of war=gow : Hoax
      • I didn't know god of war had a cover system. : mobab
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        Also, Soul Calibur, Starcraft, Splinter cell, which sold more? who the fuck knows. so who gets the abbrev... : thecray
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          OMG but no! Star Control takes the abbreviation! I cannot believe I forgot about one of the greatest seri... : thecray
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            well, Soul Calibur 3 can have SC3, since there was no Star Control 3. : thecray
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              supreme commander... : mobab
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                ... gets left out in the cold as far as abbreviations go. : thecray
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                  supcom. : thecray
                  • ^^^this. isn't supcom also from 2008 or something? : Hoax
  • SoB = Sprockets of Battle, maybe CoAC = Cogs of Armed Conflict? : tcs
• cover sheets > cover systems > cover letters. : CoRDS
• I liked the cover system in Killzone 2. It wasn't really stick, it was just like ducking but it you would... : razlebol
• I think both Rainbow six vegas games did an excellent job with their cover systems. It always seemed natu... : saunders45
• The lean system in Riddick is what every cover system should be. : Cliffzorz
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  I like the way Rainbow Six:Vegas handles cover. It's been the best to me so far. : senseimoron
  • I love the cover system in Vegas/Vegas 2, it helped reinforce the sense of danger and worked well / predi... : Turn-Based Strategy
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  Let's invite CliffyB to this thread, shall we?? : CrustaR
  • Okay give him a call! : SpaecKow
• I'm not a huge fan of cover system. In Mass Effect 2 it's ok since that's not a real FPS shooter (nor do ... : te[R]ror
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  As others have said, I think the Vegas games did cover the best to date. It felt very fluid and natural t... : SolrFlare
  • ^^ This is the correct answer. When cover is handled like this, you can just lay out levels the way you t... : dfay
• cover systems only make sense in 3rd person games that do not have any idea of sophisticated level design... : Hoax
• I agree with you, I'd much rather have no cover system, which means pacing, tactical decisions, and takin... : MercFox1
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  Works perfect in uncharted 2 : gmd
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    Of course, Uncharted 2 is a boring game and cover systems are perfect for boring games. : SpaecKow
    • The Last Crusade is my favourite Uncharted game best mechanics by far!!! : SpaecKow
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  Games rely too much on them. Everyone seems to follow Gears way of "cover all the time, every time" I'... : locater16
  • err "mixes up how and if you can or even should" that is. : locater16
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  I think it depends on the game and what they are trying to accomplish. : uncle slappy
  • As an example, in a stealth oriented game like Splinter Cell, if I can't go flat against a wall and peak,... : uncle slappy
• I don't like the cover system. It's somewhat useless, and I do think it makes the levels in game dull, b... : mobab
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  Chest high walls. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/525-Gears-of-War-2 : the archvile
  • snicker snicker : dedgecko
  • i like my term "balls high half walls" more though its probably a phrase that i might have developed afte... : Hoax
• I would agree SpaecKow. Whilst initially i thought cover systems were pretty cool, now I just realise how... : Drewus
• I'm pretty sure Gears of War is the only time a cover system has ever been sweet simply because that game... : SockMonkeh
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  I think games are made for the lowest common denominator (in terms of skill) of gamers. Thus they just ke... : InfoBiter
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    THE ALWAYS PRESENT TEAM-BASED MECHANICS! : SockMonkeh
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      SO HORRIBLE TO HAVE TEAM-BASED MECHANICS IN A MULTI-PLAYER GAME! : SockMonkeh
      • When it's the only option ... yes. : InfoBiter
  • In that regard it is hilarious how pc gamer complain about dumbed down console games while console gamers... : Hoax
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    There are a lot of AAA games that seem to shoot for lowest common denominator, and it's really dishearten... : the archvile
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      Argue against their ability to sell games? Absolutely not. Argue whether or not I enjoy them? I absolut... : InfoBiter
      • Right, but with a few exceptions, decent FPS games require a big budget, big enough to the point where on... : the archvile
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  I don't think either is banal? Cover is just... cover. It's another method of interacting with the enviro... : ieGod
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      Have you played MW2? Great example of jerkfaces coming and flanking/rushing you. Gears on higher level di... : ieGod
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        MW2 has a cover system? Gears on higher dificulty levels means dudes with massive health and weapons with... : SpaecKow
        • Perhaps I'm just getting it mixed up with the crouching and context buttons. : ieGod
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      You should try RB:Vegas. With the cover system you needed to pin down opponents and force them to s... : MrLobo
      • I did try RB Vegas and it seemed different from the other games out there, but I didn't play it for a lon... : SpaecKow
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  Games like swat 3 & 4 actually required alot of skill compared to current games. Its just how it is thoug... : thewindcriesmary
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    You gave me SWAT4 and I never played it. Now I feel bad about that :( : SpaecKow
    • I really liked SWAT4. Never played the other ones, but I had a lot of fun with everything in that game. : valael
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    SWAT3 was great. It required a lot of skill and discipline not to go in guns blasting. It was quite an aw... : Sailor of Fortune
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      What about SWAT1? : CrustaR
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        That FMV game had its moments. SWAT2 was lame as hell. SWAT3 was like, "Hey why don't these guys ju... : Sailor of Fortune
        • Swat 3 was awesome as a co-op multiplayer game too. : Rodeoclash
• Another dull gimmick to amuse people who don't think. You do think. Perhaps the people who think a... : T-900
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  'Taking cover' in Max Payne and the other games you listed was little more than staring at a wall in the ... : drhazard
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    I never just stood still and stared at walls in Max Payne combat. : SpaecKow
    • roll to the side! fire! roll to the side! fire! roll to the side! fire! roll to the side! GRIMACE : GloriousCow
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    I never stared at a wall in any game without a cover system. I'd either lean out if the game supported i... : valael
    • Both of you missed my point. You were both taking cover after a fashion, in a manner that put a wall or o... : drhazard
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  They are essential and great. Being able to hug an object for cover and interact more with your environme... : Dr_Cube
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    What about leaning in early- to mid-2000 FPS games? That got rid of the "running around standing straigh... : the archvile
    • how the fuck is pressing Q or E to lean too complex? I think Raven Shield? had a button you could hold d... : valael
• I haven't liked a game that has had one but I'm not against the mechanic as a whole, some game could have... : Mr.SEX
• good cover systems aren't guaranteed invincibility - they're a temporary environmental-based measure of p... : EvilDolemite
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  I think for cover systems and regenerating health systems to work well requires extra work on the AI. Ene... : enyakk
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    anyone who's done horde mode knows that if you just hide behind cover, you'll be hunted down and aggressi... : EvilDolemite
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      Switching from cover to cover constantly can be hectic and intense but I'm not sure that it makes for mor... : SpaecKow
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        I think Gears is one of the more abstract action games. I know that if you play online against a good tea... : enyakk
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          but enyakk I don't like deathmatch :( : SpaecKow
          • You certainly won't after Gears MP! Getting owned without a clear explanation is one of the best deterren... : enyakk
• I think they make games insanely easy actually. Combined with regenerating health, there's no challenge l... : Dynotaku
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  Do you people whining about easy game ever change difficulty levels above the default? : Pettytheft
  • I play only on the pro gamingest difficulty levels. heh : SpaecKow
• Dave-A and I would be the correct way to put it. I expect better from you. Also it's "F.E.A.R" good lo... : abrasion
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  red orchestra has the best cover system : Foxhawk
  • what exactly are you referring to? You press crouch or prone and duck behind something. And if were at ... : valael
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  In Uncharted 2 enemies are coming from multiple directions so the player is using their movement and evas... : Shai-Tan
  • Not to mention the nades : Jinxplayer
• feels "stiff". I dont feel like i'm in control on cover systems : gyokuro
• Cover systems for the most part are a visual design. There's nothing in it in term of it feeling like you... : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Being able to lean and fire around corners should be all the cover you need. To take the control away fro... : Mr. Goodwrench
  • It's like some slingshot design and it just lobs you from one box-shaped object to another. Hate it! : Godhatesfatpeople
  • Though it does seem that a cover system in 3rd person shooters actually makes sense. You couldn't really ... : Mr. Goodwrench
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  GTA 4 has a fantastic cover system because the levels don't just feel like a bunch of waist high walls sc... : marmite
  • Yeah, I think GTA 4 handled it pretty well : Mr. Goodwrench
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  Vietcong. Dear god Vietcong. It has the best cover mechanic ever, so good nobody knows it's a cover mecha... : Tchest
  • The first Vietcong was awesome. I loved that game. : marmite
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    Call of Juarez 2 had something similar! : SpaecKow
    • True! Not as easy to use though. It was also sticky, so if you go behind a crate you would be glued to it... : Tchest
  • I loved that game. It was so massively underrated. : TrptJim
  • i remember being impressed by that. There were some annoying parts though where you'd try to get on a be... : GloriousCow
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  Respondicus Repostium For me, it's all about evolution. I think you're hung up on gameplay thats been di... : Dave-A
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    I don't hate console games or new games. If there's a good console game, I'll play it. I'm a fan of God o... : SpaecKow
    • To be fair, I think God of War's cover system is kind of rudimentary. Same with Mass Effect 2. The ... : Rice-Rocketeer
  • Why do you need an entire system to predict or automate something you can simply do manually? Need to du... : mobab
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  I love cover systems if they are properly implemented. They can really streamline gameplay, and make it f... : Rice-Rocketeer
  • I second this statement. Cover systems make third person style games more interesting. However, I don't... : Snake&Crane
• I apologize, I really didn't read this whole thread, it's huge. IMHO it depends. A game that lets you... : unholydonuts
• I'm not a huge fan of them, especially because they tend to go hand in hand with regenerating health and ... : Beady

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• THE BASICS So you want to fly the choppers in Bad Company, eh? Ideally I would keep this information to : Arctic Fox
• CONTROLS 4 axes of movement requires 2 hands, no question. This puts your options down to: * Old school : Arctic Fox
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  BASIC MANEUVERS Most people will be happy with the above two posts and a bit of playing around. But if y : Arctic Fox
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    The video you requested is not available : watcherxp
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      Hey, I just typed this epic post, you go make a video :P : Arctic Fox
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        He means that the first 2 images give a 404 (somehow on the shackvideo site?) : ysbreker
        • Huh, weird. Let's try that again: This is good: http://www.shackpics.com/files/awwwww_yeah_a0xjx00ovgi... : Arctic Fox
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    Great stuiff, but your use of the word speed instead of collective kills the helicopter mechanic in me. : watcherxp
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      Yeah, I just stuck to the in-game terms for clarity. Incidentally, you're a helicopter mechanic? Nice! : Arctic Fox
      • Was. : watcherxp
  • Thank you. I promise to yield the chopper to you if I see you racing for it. : Dr_Cube
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  those things are crazy easy to fly on the 360. : maulla
  • Yeah, the gamepad makes it so much easier. The third bit is really only for people that are struggling af... : Arctic Fox
• YEEEEEEEAAHH!!! : Dschinghis Khan
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  I prefer crashing sideways into a cliff after 5 seconds of taking off. : PointlesS76
  • Really? I prefer tipping the top of the warehouse in front of me, then careening into some trees, attemp... : TheVietSpecial
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  Did they fix binding joystick axis' and throttle? If not, what's the point? : jimmy-buffett
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    See the CONTROLS post for XPadder info, which is how I got around this. : Arctic Fox
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      PC gaming at its finest. : dantastic
      • That was totally necessary... : razlebol
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        Well, truthfully, there are two sides to this coin. Sure, PC gaming is the red-headed stepchild of the fa... : Arctic Fox
        • It should be noted that we are the hot red-headed stepchild. : TheVietSpecial
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          i'm finally at the point where i don't want to fucking deal with spending an hour getting something to wo... : dantastic
          • Your choice. : Arctic Fox
          • Then you get COD6, where you play they way they intend you to play. : AxeMan808
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    My fucking throttle on my sidewinder 2 doesn't get recognized in game. The controls with a sidewinder 2 ... : Scotty22
    • Assuming that it doesn't get fixed in the retail patch, you might want to ask here ( http://xpadder.com/p... : Arctic Fox
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      this is disappointing, I used to fly the BF2 choppers with a Sidewinder 2 also :( : Goncyn
      • P.S. if anyone still has an unused beta key, hook me up : Goncyn
  • hopfully this stuff is fixed with the retail release. : IcomeINpeace
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  Haven't gotten around to using the 360 controller on PC. I fucking owned with the Apache in BFBC on 360. ... : Sailor of Fortune
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    I still miss the piloting from Desert Combat. It seemed so much tighter than the helo piloting from the ... : Topsiderover
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      ArcticFox do you have a wired or wireless 360 pad? I remember pulling out my MS Sidewinder 2 so I could p... : TheQuad
      • read my post above about my sidewinder2 : Scotty22
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        I have a wired one that serves dual PC/Xbox time. : Arctic Fox
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          Bummer about that Scotty. Guess its even more pointless to pull it out of the back closet! ArcticFox I w... : TheQuad
          • I honestly barely notice the wire. I've got 3 wireless ones for the XBox so I have some point of comparis... : Arctic Fox
• Any kind souls have an extra beta key? I applied for one, but I do not want to wait. =) : ImageOmega
• I think I still prefer mouse + keyboard. I haven't tried the joystick in BC2 though. I did own with a mou... : razlebol
• i was just mowing down dudes with Duffman on the Apache :D : r3dn3ck
• Fucking INF!! : The Grolar Bear
• Man I'm really enjoying this game, but I'm already in desperate need of a new map. : Topsiderover
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  Is there any way to get inverse mouse to work on the damn quads? I cant seem to find the option for it : hobosapien
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    ??? : lodit
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      When driving the quad my mouse does not invert at all : hobosapien
      • It's just broken like a lot of other options : aggressor
  • The invert mouse button is hilariously broken. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and if it works ... : Arctic Fox
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  awesome post. ive spent about 2 hours total flight time in the helo and i finally played a few pubs and ... : oHnOES
  • Sounds like you ended with a similar set of keys to me, just a different layout. Nice one, and thanks for... : Arctic Fox
• Nice write-up Fox! : dewdman
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  How can I practice by myself? :( : aggressor
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    join an empty server, bomb the deonate the points until you get to the last 2 points then switch teams to... : oHnOES
    • or just stay defense as an assault, take a shotgun, so you get c4, extra explosives so you get 6 which ca... : Xevo
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  You're pretty much awesome for writing that up! The good news: I will just let you pilot the helos and I'... : vile
  • Hey, you won't hear any complaints from me, piloting is damn fun :) : Arctic Fox
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  I'm only good at shooting things :(. : moe6
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    practice with the uav : Alpha Class Android
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      Really, the UAV is nothing like flying the helos. It has completely different handling and none of the pi... : Arctic Fox
      • It handles like a regular person, if they could also move up\down. : ArcKnight
      • It has double rotating rotors, like those toy helicopters, that keep it level and make it easier to contr... : jbt11
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  Are we going to have a shackbattle tonight? : Nitrium
  • Anyone wanna play now? I got auto'd out of a TF2 server full of shackers for idling after Furious capped ... : Merconium
• Anyone playing with XP64? I immediately get booted when I try to join any server (or the Play Now opti... : fr0x
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  I really hope Rush is not the main game mode. : sanchez
  • There's also Conquest, though a lot of the maps are more contained :( : ArcKnight
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    There was a video floating around showing this crazy 5-way squad thing which looked pretty fun : timaste
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      Yeah Squad Rush mode, should be cool. : Xevo
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        No, that's the 1 squad versus 1 squad game mode. He's thinking of Squad Deathmatch. : Wisp!
        • oh yeah I forgot about that one, good call... I was reading 5 on 5 which doesn't make sense either, heh! : Xevo
• you are an upstanding gentleman and a credit to your species...thanks! : CecilPhilpot
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  FYI, I apparently whined for the past 24 hours for no reason, I preordered on Steam about 3 hours ago and... : Goncyn
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    glad to hear it, I was worried about you not getting a code! weird that they changed the page for awhile,... : Xevo
    • I'm 100% happy with this purchase. I really loved BF2 and this is like that game only newer and with dest... : Goncyn
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  How do you unlock the extra shotgun ammo perk? : jojomcbobo
  • On the title screen go to Multiplayer>Weapons and Unlocks (if I remember correctly) after you have logged... : Arctic Fox
• Awesome write-up! Thank you! : Tripps
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  Please to be explaining how to be good with UAV as well thanks in advance. : sharpie
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    None of the above flying tips apply for the UAV. R is up, F is down, otherwise it controls much like a re : Arctic Fox
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      I hate that default key binding for UAV because I end up hitting 'e' instead of 'r' too many times and lo... : trOmblyj
      • lol yes, I have done this far too often myself. : Arctic Fox
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    Load it with c4 and kamikazi it into shit. Works wonders. Even better, is have a buddy load it with c... : d0gbert
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      oooh - we're gonna try that : dedgecko
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        Its a one shot on all the points, and an instakill on armor. Its pretty mean too, becuase you can lau... : d0gbert
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          This must be what happened when all of a sudden we lose an objective and I didn't even see a "charge set"... : Goncyn
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            People just walk up, plant 6 C4 (you can carry 6 with a perk), then blow it. It's being increased to 12 C... : Arctic Fox
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              It seems stupid to me that you can do that at all... doesn't it sidestep the game mechanics? : Goncyn
              • The Battlefield series is founded on the idea of sidestepping the game mechanics :P : Arctic Fox
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              currently you only need 5 c4 charges to insta kill a point. bumping it to 12 just means it's going to ta... : dedgecko
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                I think taking 2-3 lives to do it is fine. That means that the defenders have to be lax enough for you to... : Arctic Fox
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                  eh - just let engineers repair the points (and fix it so that friendlies can't damage it themselves). : dedgecko
                  • I agree on the latter, however I think the former is a recipe for stalemates. : Arctic Fox
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                It wouldn't be that bad if people couldn't go up the side of the hills, at least you can see the ATV rush... : ghost in my shell
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                  Are you new to BF games? ;) : dedgecko
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                    I figured after 10 years DICE would have figured out how to fix that kind of thing! Oh silly me! : ghost in my shell
                    • yea, I'm not sure if they're going to fix the hill thing. Though given the different layers of OOB that ... : dedgecko
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                It's not that big a problem. Play good defense and if you lose an objective, big deal the battle's not o... : smax
                • right, hence why I agree with the move to 12 c4. Fixes both problems without removing the option entirely... : Arctic Fox
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              The last I saw on the Dice/EA forums was more than 15 c4 charges. (from a developer) : ArtilleryMarker
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                Then people will just bomb the house the objective is in, that rarely takes more than ~10 C4. : Arctic Fox
                • or shell it to death with mortar / tanks : dedgecko
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  I don't know why people have difficulty with this, the first time I hoped into a chopper I flew it withou... : Milleh
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    Yep, same. It's not really that difficult. Like any other BF game. : hobosapien
    • it's a pain in the ass if you use anything other than the default controls (which as an EDSF'r is always ... : dedgecko
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  thread-jack anyone know how to make a 360 controller not auto-shut off? Always a bummer when I goto j... : dedgecko
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    Mine doesn't shut off automatically? : Phreakin
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      If yours is wired, that is normal. All wireless controllers have auto-shutoff to conserve battery power. : TrptJim
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        I understand that but how is it doing it in the middle of the game for him? : Phreakin
        • too much idle time between usage, i would only use it when i was flying and it would shut off. i would t... : oHnOES
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    pro-tip, use the play and charge kit and hook it up to your computer, im using a wireless controller and ... : oHnOES
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      Someone told me that didn't work. I.e. you can't hook up a wireless controller w/ the play & charge kit a... : Goncyn
      • Correct - if you have a wireless 360 controller, YOU MUST use the wireless receiver. The only thing that... : dedgecko
      • in general it only works with the very first-generation wireless controllers. basically you've got a 1-5%... : xsoulbrothax
    • nah - i'd rather not keep that cable attached - so it's hardcoded into the controller to auto-shut off. ... : dedgecko
    • Except it's not wireless? : etherboy
• the main thing most people need to know when they figure out how to take off is to not move the mouse too... : Shai-Tan
• In options, uncheck "Inverter mouse", if you could fly a helicopter in BF2, you can now. : Darkfox76

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  Stalker is way better. : Boxelder
  • I'm a big fan of STALKER (haven't played CoP yet though) but it's a different type of game. The only simi... : ieGod
• I agree, what a kick ass game, I love to play with fire! : Tattoo Trav
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  People didn't like the game because the only real sense of progress it offered was the weapon upgrades ga... : SpaecKow
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    Ultra shitty? Boring?? More like awesome: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvGXWg55pjo I took each conv... : pyide
    • lol I love the comment "Game name plz" when it's right there in the title and description. : TabsAZ
    • Haha, awesome. Thats the beauty of this game : Tattoo Trav
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      yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn! : SpaecKow
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        Okay it's not really yawn it's good but once you do a million of these knowing you can just sit there on ... : SpaecKow
        • You can kill them anyway you want. If Far Cry 2 isn't fun it's because you are making it not fun. : AgentPothead
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      This is what I'm talking about that freedom and total bad-assery makes up for any subjective uninterestin... : ieGod
      • Wait, I mean how you can't love that. Fuck me. You know what I meant : ieGod
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        I don't know, that seemed pretty standard to me. He set a trap with explosives. If that automatically mak... : Felraiser
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          What gets me excited is how you can choose how to take out the truck. He could have sniped the drivers ca... : ieGod
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            But is any of those choices interesting on its own? I never found one that was, because the game's mechan... : Felraiser
            • I think so. The AI isn't particularly great but it plays into the godlike mercenary bit. They're not mean... : ieGod
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      Man, I just watched your ME2 PC scanning video. It's so painful on 360. :( : Grimp
      • Holy shit you weren't kidding. : ieGod
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        Even adjusting that it's still annoying on PC. I wish there was a way to increase the resources you get f... : pyide
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          i find it helps to just click a lot as holding down the scan button slows your cursor on my second pla... : GloriousCow
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            I never had a problem with the speed of the scanning cursor, it increases after buying the upgrade too. M... : pyide
            • ah nice thanks, i'm going to edit the fuck out of these : GloriousCow
            • Yeah, cursor speed wasn't an issue for me. I tried using A & D, but without this tweak, it went about a ... : valael
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              I went even further and did this: Bindings=( Name="F3", Command="initpalladium 500000 | initiridium 5000... : swimteampie
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                lol... i didn't want to cheat directly... but oh well fuck it.. There is nothing fun about scanning :( : GloriousCow
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                  Exactly, taking the boring out of the game just makes it better. : swimteampie
                  • which file does this go in? : GloriousCow
    • looks similar to the convoy ambush levels in Operation Flashpoint : Shai-Tan
  • those missions were awesome. taking out convoys with IEDs or other tools. it didnt really get boring be... : dantastic
  • btw - I liked the game. : SpaecKow
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  I wouldn't have too much of a problem with the checkpoint respawn if it was a reasonable amount of time n... : TabsAZ
  • I personally agree with this sentiment, though I did overall like the game. I commented at one point that... : lunarbunny
  • What would be even cooler is if, every 10 minutes a guy in the base radioed "HQ". If he didn't radio then... : marmite
• i too enjoyed it thoroughly : eeeealmo
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  it gets to be a pain to get through them when you just want to do the mission. i usually clear them out : dantastic
  • It's a sense of pride for me to scout each and every safehouse and guard post. I do this before I underta... : ieGod
• Alright, fuck it, reinstalling this... : TabsAZ
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  I'm not the game's biggest fan, but one thing it did *very* well, and Bioshock 2 noticeably does *NOT* is... : Vincent Grayson
  • True. Everything being in first person, with a lack of cutscenes really perfected the immersion. : Mr. Goodwrench
• I agree. I fucking love the game. : Mr. Goodwrench
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  to answer your question you can't stop them from getting shot up no matter what you do. Its just part of : GloriousCow
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    I reloaded this segment a dozen times. There's really no feasible way that I can tell will keep them aliv... : lunarbunny
    • even if you did the game would probably just bug out or not progress. it has to happen. : GloriousCow
    • If you do well enough to actually kill all your attackers and keep your buddies alive, it's scripted to p... : Mr. Goodwrench
• You are a truly man of taste and discretion. : Johnny Law
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  yeah it's fun taking out a checkpoint. Not so fun when you go down the road a spell, then realize you nee... : baconisgod
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    I haven't put much time into the game. Is it not possible to just drive around or straight through them? : valael
    • Most of the time it is. : ieGod
• It just means you have good tastes! : kelerian
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  yes but how long have you played? : spaceyme
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    He says in his spoilers. Most players who don't like the game seem to give it up loooong before that. : pyide
    • i hated it but finished it : spaceyme
  • 21 hours in. : ieGod

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  what problems do you have with it on the list? : RikiTiki2
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    How is WoW an inspiration for games that came after it? 0. Nadda. Null. They pretty much stole ever... : D11ger
    • Yeah, you know, I really miss zone-camping for days to do 40-man raids on some boss. I wish we still had... : Majuju
    • So many games were influenced by WoW for better or worse, devs still cite it to this day when talking abo... : pyide
    • In almost all cases they took existing ideas from MMO's and made them more usable, prettier, and polished : action wombmate
    • you are completely wrong : maulla
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      ever played Modern Warfare? inspired by WoW. you're grinding for xp, levels and phat lewt in MW/MW2 : CecilPhilpot
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        Are you serious? :) : D11ger
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          yup! even though the gameplay is totally different, the mechanic of leveling up to get gear that makes yo... : CecilPhilpot
          • post-WoW mentality : _jon
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      WoW is a terrible game who's players are all massive faggots, it should never be taken seriously in any d... : gmd
      • I really hope this isn't sarcasm : Mr. Goodwrench
    • they stole everything maybe, and perfected it from an MMO standpoint... just like blizzard always does... : chilln
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      Hahahahaha. Look how retarded you are. Even if they stole it, why do those games not have 11 million acti... : Phreakin
      • Just because they don't have over a million (or 11 million) players doesn't mean it's failing miserably. ... : valael
    • Given that WoW has yet to be topped proves that you don't have any idea what you're talking about. Wha... : dedgecko
    • i don't even play, haven't played it since 2006, but i'd call it the game of the decade : EvilDolemite
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      Are you fucking kidding? Practically every MMO to come out after WoW has tried to imitate its gameplay s... : CyCo_PL
      • More to the point, WOW took those ideas and assembled them into a good game. : rudds
    • Yeah, including the biggest PC game of all time is a huge mistake...what? : mrwolf710
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      Well, if Wow is there but Everquest isn't then that's a serious mistake. (didn't watch, it'll just annoy... : Boxelder
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        I still kinda view Everquest as a game from last decade. EQ2 just didn't have a fraction of EQ1's impact... : pigvomit
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          oh, maybe. I keep forgetting I'm old. : Boxelder
          • yeah EQ1 was released in 1999 so it doesn't qualify. : Majuju
    • Hey, I am no fan of WoW, but its popularity speaks for itself. It is certainly well designed for what it ... : Rice-Rocketeer
    • Nobody said it had to inspire a single game afterward to be good enough itself to be on that list, which ... : rudds
    • Well that's one way to prove your ignorance. : boarder2
    • WoW made MMOs palatable to the average person. That's a huge accomplishment. I don't care much for the ga... : stratedge
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      I hate to agree, but he's right. Despite the massive amounts of praise that WoW gets among gaming circles... : ColoradoCNC
      • Irrelevant. It's not about how fun it is, it's about how popular it STILL is. : marmite
• he comes out and says that the list is mostly based on the games influence, and thats one thing that you ... : maulla
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  List for those of us who can't/won't watch the video? : SiW.
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    10. The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess 9. Super Mario Galaxy 8. Devil May Cry 7. Shadow of the Col... : pyide
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      While I can understand that list is a "popular" top 10, there aren't that many compelling stories on it. : Bamtan
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        I'm not sure what you're getting at. I bet a list of the Top 10 selling games of the decade would look p... : action wombmate
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          I'm saying most of the games on that list had average storytelling. I'm a sucker for a great plot going a... : Bamtan
          • Ahh, gotcha. I thought you meant stories like in some journalistic sense or something. : action wombmate
          • really? I think the stories in a lot of those games are pretty good, as far as videogames go. : DeBurgo
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      That's a terrible list. : Arcanum
      • Yeah fuck that noise. : Navy Spitfire
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      Resident Evil 4? zuh? I like the game but still...no. : Boxelder
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        I thought it was amazing, and it also heavily influenced things like Gears of War and Dead Space. : EvilDolemite
        • Actually I realized I confused it with 5 after I posted this. 4 is worthy. : Boxelder
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        4 was one of the best games ever made. It ranks up there with ICO and Half Life for me. : deathofrats
        • This, easily. : rudds
        • It almost dethroned Half-Life 2 for me, and I hate the Resident Evil mythos in general. : TaintedSyringe
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      What was their reasoning for GTA3? Sure it had a big impact in terms of the direction it took the GTA se... : riptyde
      • That's exactly why it was on the list. GTA3 set the stage for the open-ended gameplay that we all know a... : Dechter
      • Are you really asking this question? I never even played it that much but it's obvious as hell that its ... : action wombmate
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        well it created the modern open world/sandbox genre so... : derelict515
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          In my heart, I still believe Carmageddon created the modern open world game. ( My heart is wrong, but I l... : Crabs Jarrard
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            I agree, but at the same time GTA3 and beyond bore me after a short while.. not enough impetus to make me... : Arsenal
            • I think I put just as much time into the first two GTAs as I did all of the ones after 3. I'm pretty sur... : valael
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        exactly. thats why Half Life 1 is on there instead of Half Life 2 : spiderfill
        • Maybe you're joking, but Half Life 1 wasn't on there, HL2 was. And why it was l lower (higher?) on t... : valael
        • Half Life 1 came out in 1998 : marmite
      • Because GTA3, as a single game, had more of an influence on modern games than almost any title imaginable... : ColoradoCNC
    • hahahah what? : Mr. Goodwrench
    • Halo more like ....... : abrasion
    • I've seen far worse top10 lists. It's not as bad as people are making it out to be. : Pettytheft
    • With the exception of Devil May Cry, I think it's a good list. Sorta. Remove the specific rankings, and i... : Cihte
• I can agree with this list, especially considering how they went about coming up with the top 10. : SatansFist
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  Im more bothered by Halo being on that list than WoW.. Halo is only popular because it did for the con... : wimpy1
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    I'm not a huge fan of Halo. But I tire of the hatred that game gets because butthurt PC zealots were fuck... : Godhatesfatpeople
    • I guess you can throw in Mac fans in there too (lulz). : Godhatesfatpeople
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      there are plenty of console shooters that i enjoy.. it most certainly is not a butthurt pcer thing going ... : wimpy1
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        You clearly didn't actually play the game when it first came out. : deveus1
        • lol exactly : johnny rotten
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        I can agree with this. I still think both Goldeneye and Turok 2 had a better multiplayer component (and w... : Crabs Jarrard
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          You know the decade in question doesn't include those two games right? : Arsenal
          • I was replying to the argument that Halo was the title that showed that FPS could be done properly on con... : Crabs Jarrard
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          Turok 2 had some amazingly awful and repetitive key hunting going on. Hell, that's really all it had goin... : roushimsx
          • I wish someone would pick up where Turok 2 left off in regards to weapons. I miss the cerebral bore... : Crabs Jarrard
  • quite honestly im wondering why shadow of the colossus is on there. as for halo, it did 1 thing right:... : -=kodiak=-
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    Doing that for consoles was an achievement though. Finally playing games online on your console was a big... : bozer
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      Wong decade. : saunders45
      • and the first halo was local / system link only :O : pyide
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      except Goldeneye didn't come out in the last decade and Halo didn't offer online play....so...yea.... ... : roushimsx
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        I fucking loved The Library. : Zollington
        • Hail brother! : Endymion_
      • Pretty much. : Godhatesfatpeople
      • I own and like the PC version. *shrug* : RikiTiki2
      • IAWTP. Halo wasn't a perfect game by any standard, but it was pretty damn good for a console shooter, and... : thetangent
      • Arguing against Halo haters is like banging your head against a brick wall. Eventually you'll go mad as m... : Pettytheft
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      Goldeneye didn't come out this decade. : SnakeIRye
      • Damn I should refresh :/ : SnakeIRye
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      Halo wasn't online, though. And Quake III on Dreamcast (with online) came years before any online XBox FP... : Cihte
      • Quake III on DC was part of this decade, too. : Cihte
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    no one who played Halo 1 on launch says this. I had never owned a console before that day and been a PC g... : derelict515
    • Agreed. Halo 1 Lan party's ruled. It was fun, and is still one of the better games for weapon balancing. : saunders45
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      sitting down to play Halo, on my modest 27" TV with progressive scan, and cheap surround sound, my jaw dr... : EvilDolemite
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        In that same vein, there are good parents, and bad parents. : Zollington
        • Good parents love their children for who they are, bad parents love their children when they become what ... : saunders45
    • Agreed. I didn't own an Xbox (first non-Nintendo console I've owned is the 360), but my friend had one an... : thetangent
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      Hell, introducing physics was pretty ground-breaking when you consider that we were playing games like NO... : deveus1
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        god what was that video that got popular when halo was first released which was basically blowing up a je... : johnny rotten
        • Warthog Jump http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGQIQljaAc0 : deveus1
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      The Halo series still has some of the most dynamic combat on the market, thanks to its unpredictable AI. : rudds
      • Unfortunately, the marines in HL1 spoiled for a good while..... : Crabs Jarrard
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      Yep. Lots of folks looking back at Halo from today's perspective don't actually know what the shooter ge... : Johnny Law
      • We were probably spoiled by UT99 and it's big list of badass mods. I know I was. I played that game way l... : Crabs Jarrard
  • Xbox Live wasn't even around till well after Halo came out, and Halo was never playable over it. So giv... : boredguy
  • i admit i never played Halo at launch, only after the fact when i finally bought an xbox, but i never rea... : theWhite
  • Halo brought a lot of new things to the table and I think it's easy for people who ignored the game at l... : deveus1
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    I disagree with Devil May Cry the most. Sure it really pushed that type of game, but I don't think we sh... : pigvomit
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      i don't know. devil may cry was like nothing else and still holds up. it's a pretty incredible action g... : EvilDolemite
      • Well, if we were talking about influential games, that would be another list. I just don't think that th... : pigvomit
    • DMC spawned the genre. God of War created a small offshoot that features a significantly reduced combat ... : walker270
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    I see why halo 1 is in the list, but RE4? really? I know it wasn't this decade but RE2 pretty much ... : X-GOUKI
    • yea, i'd probably swap out Resident Evil 4 for Kill.Switch given it was the first game of the decade to i... : roushimsx
    • IMO, Resident Evil 4 was much better than 2. I do think that 2 was the crowning acheievement of that gene... : Crabs Jarrard
  • Coop : Sailor of Fortune
  • I regret that I have but one LOL to give to my browser : ColoradoCNC
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  Top 10 lists are essentially trolls. It's an easy way for web sites to get clicks because everyone can fi... : deveus1
  • ^^^ this : CecilPhilpot
  • I agree whole-heartedly, however I'm finding little to disagree with for once. : dedgecko
  • I. N. F. : biskits
  • Well put : tomservo
  • IAWTP : thetangent
  • We should get them back with a Top 10 Top 10 List List featuring some really awful examples that outrage ... : nudel
  • It's also an easy way for people to consume content, with each payoff automatically paced and delivered i... : sgtsanity
  • Agreed. I started going over how ridiculous some of those picks were, and then I read this post and reali... : surley_monkey
  • Pretty much. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  I'd remove Zelda, Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime only because I couldn't bring myself to finish any of th... : bozer
  • FOOL : gmd
  • Prime > MP3 > MP2 I agree also about Zelda and MG. They didn't need to be on the wii, as the motion c... : dedgecko
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    Galaxy belongs on that list, it's easily the best Mario game (everything included not only platformers) s... : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • It's the best platformer ever : Cihte
  • You're freaking nuts bozer. Nuts. Prime could very well be the top game of the last decade. You're so nut... : ieGod
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  God I hate top 10 lists. They were interesting back in the day when magazines would do it, but now with ... : pigvomit
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    Well, yeah. Their Top 10 lists are what they're known for. http://www.gametrailers.com/screwattack : The Grolar Bear
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      Well, Screw Attack isn't necessarily GameTrailers. GameTrailers just helps host their content, and they ... : slax0r
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        I didn't say Screw Attack was GT, I just linked that to show that one of Screw Attack's major features is... : The Grolar Bear
        • Ah, gotcha. I only read your post, and didn't see that pigvomit already mentioned Screw Attack. : slax0r
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  no deus ex = WTF : Chandler55
  • If it was a pc-only list, I think Deus Ex would be a shoo-in. : action wombmate
• Not a bad list. I can understand most of them. Placement aside, I would change: Zelda: Twilight Prince... : K1Bond007
• i'd agree with that based on lengevity and impact. i don't know if it would make my list. : dahanese
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  All lists are terrible. : SigmaDraconis
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    List of Terrible Things: 1. All Lists : _jon
    • What a terrible list. : slax0r
• Interesting thing is I have only played 2 of these game and only finished 1. Considering I don't own a co... : boomdeath
• Lists that attempt to distill hundreds of good games into a short list will inevitably run into the fact ... : Shai-Tan
• I thought that they had a good list, but it wouldn't be mine. While I enjoyed the Halo series, I didn't ... : silverback1138
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  is drucifer still sick of top 10 lists? : CoRDS
  • Any list that he's not on, really. : slax0r
  • you bet your sweet bippy. I speak as an internet expert. : drucifer
• Its a pretty good list, I don't see what the problem is : Serpico74
• This list is a list for everyone and not at the same time. : Sailor of Fortune
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  No MW2? You would think being the best selling game of all time, and the franchise that perfected FPS on... : uncle slappy
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    Mech Warrior 2 was in the 90's. : CrustaR
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      It's nice to know I'm not the only one that thinks that every time someone posts MW2. : hoopfam4
      • it still irks me that MW2 has been reassigned. I mean yes its an old game, but my god was it a good one. ... : hanabal
  • Technically that would have been CoD4. : Dschinghis Khan
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    Best selling game of all time does not make a good game. MW2 is utter garbage : kill9
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      "utter garbage" sometimes i wonder if you guys ever played truly bad games in the 80's or 90's : EvilDolemite
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        It's all relative. There are plenty of crap games that don't sell millions of copies. When something is... : kill9
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          i don't understand your logic here. : EvilDolemite
          • Ok : kill9
        • And it is a good game! : OmegaRed59
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        I know how it is, you really want to respond to bizarre comments like that, but really, is it worth it? ... : pigvomit
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          Enlighten us as to why MW2 should be in the 10 top games of the decade then : kill9
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            I'm not saying that at all. : pigvomit
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              dont stoop to his level its not worth it : spiderfill
              • i hear kill9 eats babies and likes it : GloriousCow
              • My level? What the fuck lol : kill9
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    I thought Wii Sports was the best selling game of all time? : ieGod
    • It is. Several other Nintendo games have also sold more than MW2, and NSMB Wii will also end up outsellin... : Serpico74
  • There was nothing innovative about MW2, not even close. It was just a perfected next iteration of things ... : stratedge
  • Only it isn't the best selling game of all time... : Cihte

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  That picture is awesome. New background. : Tripps
  • agreed, very fucking cool picture : MrBig0
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  i'm gonna miss the space shuttle :( : GloriousCow
  • don't worry about it, I bought all of the NASA assets. we're going to MARS, BITCHES : Downforce
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  Also http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/image/1002/launch_vernacotola.jpg : Ovate
  • ^^ wow : r_picmip 5
  • Wow, it looks more like something it coming in than launching... : Ender.Wiggin
  • awesome : fishbone
• thats a great one : get_navi
• i had to look twice to make sure it's a real pic. It's a bit.... too epic. : TPSReport
• That was an amazing launch. : ucanbfuzzy
• that's pretty cool looking. : noobja
• it has been a long time since i have dragged a pic from the shack to my desktop pix folder. this is one s... : CoRDS
• that one's fantastic, i love that site : CecilPhilpot
• New background for me as well. Thanks! : kaijuseijin
• awesome, awesome picture : Milleh
• Wonderful. : lightly inclined
• awesome : maulla
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  I wonder how many corporate sales kickoff powerpoint presentations this picture will grace the cover of i... : Dave-A
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    'Let's "Lift Off" in 2011 Dong Sales' : tomservo
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      Heh. I can only picture a salesman named Dong Sales and how unfortunate it must have been for him to gro... : Dechter
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        A chinese guy that worked for me was named Dong. Really nice guy. : slickdoody
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          I used to know a guy named Fahme... he pronounced it Fuck Me : dumb.
          • He really didn't. He was just propositioning you. : lolpatrol
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          The government owned energy provider here in Denmark is called Dong energy :) : imperator
          • DONG's primary focus is deep drilling. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DONG_Energy : imperator
    • Now that's a message I can get in front of! : Dong Patrol
  • This is a sad truth. Fuck I hate Power Point presentations with a passion. : theghostofsmdever
  • Is ti wrong that I just downloaded this just in case for a PPT presentation? :) : quanta88
• Amazing photo. : vx2o
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  Desktop'd! : recoilfx
  • second'd! : ShoCon
• I like this one http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2352940/posts : broly1718
• Great picture. : ieGod
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  I found this one last night, but I can't frickin' remember where I got it from http://www.shackpics.c... : Veegeezee
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    I saw it linked on John Scalzi's blog, Whatever. : gooblerampling
    • ah! ok. I think Bad Astronomy is where I saw it. : Veegeezee
  • It's also NASA's image of the day http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/imagegallery/image_feature_1592.html (la... : mn3m0n1c
• Great pic. Still using this one on desktop - http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/165304main_image_feature_... : Prototype
• badass : deadfish
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  I love launch pictures and videos. Watch in HQ and crank up the volume. I get goosebumps when the SRB... : Kaiser
  • 1080P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBX6JyesRzI : MrBig0
• Anyone been to a live launch? I would like to do it one day. : quazar
• that's freakin' awesome : action wombmate
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  HIJACK: As exciting as shuttle launches are (saw one from about 30 miles away once), is it realistic to e... : get_navi
  • I hope our next probe somewhere can send back video : GloriousCow
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    Some people feel the point is to get off as soon as possible so that humankind can't be eradicated in one : Lunatic Angelic
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      Yea its a matter of goals. NASA's goal is follow the water in search of life so until that changes, getti... : get_navi
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        Privatizing likely isn't the answer. There's no profit in it now. In the future, maybe, but not now. W... : alias
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          Correct - unless they found a fuck ton of natural resources on another planet and the price to get them f... : dedgecko
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            There's an $80 Trillion asteroid floating around out there made of mostly silver and some gold... ... : Lunatic Angelic
            • haha wow, I'd love to see that thing. :D : Godhatesfatpeople
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      ha, do people really believe the first part you just stated? : Godhatesfatpeople
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        Not just amateurs either. Steven Hawking believes we need to colonize as soon as the global economies co : Lunatic Angelic
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          Well the way he says it is a bit different in how I interpreted your statement I guess. I know I've heard... : Godhatesfatpeople
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            So if one mattress burns, we still have another one? The world is an imperfect place, and society will... : thetangent
            • Didn't say we should stop at all. I meant to say that porting all that energy over with that intent sound... : Godhatesfatpeople
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        I'd rather not be around when a global extinction event happens, tyvm. : ucanbfuzzy
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          That would be awesome. I'd pull up a lawn chair and smoke a fatty while that massive asteroid comes right... : Godhatesfatpeople
          • Agreed 100%. If the world ends, I want to be there to see it. Also, I'd fuck an alien. : MrBig0
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    One metallic asteroid has so much iron in it... : ucanbfuzzy
    • ...but now it's spinning on all three of it's axis' : dedgecko
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    I would love to just harvest energy in space and build orbital factories as stage one. : YerMothah
    • WE NEED MORE PYLONS! : Lunatic Angelic
• One of the reasons I always check apod every day. : nodge69
• Beautiful. : Link.
• This is a nice photo. : DM7
• Hot damn, that's awesome. : inf3d3l

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  History: I’ve been a gamer since I was five years old. For me, it’s an incredibly fun hobb : punchdog
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    That's pretty awesome :D Also, I'm sure Garry's Mod must be amazing for a kid at that age. : aethyr
    • It's like the contemporary version of playing "trucks". : punchdog
  • this is such a great story, gg ecks, locash and valve : Bamtan
  • fucking awesome : Draugluin
  • Brilliant story, you're a great dad. Mad props to locash, Ecks and Valve. : scottythejock
  • Great story. Shackdudes are awesome and always surprise me with their generosity. : MrBig0
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    that is amazing stuff right there. <3 : pyide
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      btw http://punchdog.shackspace.com/Raising%20the%20Bar/Christmas%202009%20Rebel__0019R.JPG << incredible ... : pyide
      • HAHAHAHA totally missed that. Awesome. : Ride-My-Rocket
      • Haha, yeah, I was going to post this. Great story, I love you guys. : node
      • I missed it, too, so great! : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • This is an incredibly awesome story! You renewed my faith in humanity :D Shacknews is a fabulous commun... : Galadriel07
  • It's heartwarming to read these kinds of stories. I noticed that something like this isn't that infreque... : DrWaffles
  • That's amazing. This is an even better heartfelt story than Dognose's post about playing l4d with his son... : thecatinthehat
  • thats awesome! : maulla
  • Amazing job ecks and all the guys at Valve. : Dontdrop
  • That's so awesome. : ShekkyBoy
  • Totally awesome : fishbone
  • Wow man, that actually got me teary eyed. As a parent I know that feeling you get when your kids apprecia... : Phreakin
  • Awesome story, thanks for sharing it :) : alnya
  • Very nice story. Go Shacknews! : Bamii
  • Shit like this is why I'm still here, 13yrs after I first discovered it and long after I'd officially ret... : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Is that an urban camouflage pajama robe? Do you know if they make them in adult sizes? : dearjamie
  • OH MY GOD HALF LIFE TWOOOOOOOO : askedrelic
  • My cockles have been warmed. Great story! : kelzmelzer
  • Very nice and awesome story! : DM7
  • so awesome, sounds like a great kid too : derelict515
  • I love this place and I love that developers are an active part in it. What a great story, thanks for pos... : tomservo
  • Awesome. : filtersweep
  • Amazing story. : grabbie
  • This is the coolest thing ever. The complete and total joy evident on your son's face pretty much made m... : mrwolf710
  • beautiful : sposh
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    very cool story.Your kids expression is priceless and really amazing a kid can get excited over a book in... : mcpstoner
    • So damn true : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • fantastic story, props galore to the valve folks, hooray for happy kiddos! : Downforce
  • Aww, that made my heart grow three sizes. Now I have to go to the hospital. Thanks a lot. : Serrin
  • That's awesome! Props to Ecks and locash et al for being so cool. : J4NUS
  • that's really awesome. Thanks for sharing that. : mindmann
  • Awesome. : K1Bond007
  • There really are some awesome people here :) : yosemiteclimber
  • Truly an awesome story. : RetroRedEyeJr
  • nice man : noobja
  • awesome : spiderfill
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    "Bravegoose" is such a wicked Nick : watcherxp
    • lol i thought the same thing : ass-street
  • this is really nice :) : ass-street
  • :] : Wolfanoz
  • That's so cool : bombay
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    I.. have something in my eye. : Geoffrois
    • Me too. Sniff sniff. God I love the shack. : Lightzout
  • got something in my eye : Cashh
  • great story, clearly a great caring dad too, and great work by the shack community an valve. awesome. : disembodied potato
  • so awesome : moe6
  • Man, that's awesome. : delataur
  • That's just amazing, thanks for sharing :) : Inadrys
  • That's cool. I took my copy of the book into the office back at Ritual with me when we were working on S : RomSteady
  • This is so awesome! Thanks for sharing such a great story!! : metldude
  • That's god damn awesome : shavenewok
  • You mofo gonna make me all weepy here :p : chiisu81
  • Very awesome story and again it shows why shackers are such cool people. : DonarUDL
  • Excellent story, gj ecks, locash and the dudes at valve. : bcyde
  • :'D : yakz
  • That's awesome. I love the Shack. :D : Rice-Rocketeer
  • Wow! Great story and some very awesome folks! :D : Alco23
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    Thank you for posting this. It makes me very happy : dognose
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      lol, likewise with your related story. I almost posted this the night you made your post. I read yours, s... : punchdog
      • It all starts and ends with Valve doesn't it? : dognose
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        That is honestly amazing. Just all the people involved. The guys at Valve always struck me as nice guys... : silverback1138
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          we should all send them something since they're always doing cool stuff for other people :( : roushimsx
          • from shack with luv! : Demius
  • :D :D :D :D : Juno
  • Great story. To all involved - you rock! : humbleone
  • Wonderful story. I'm glad everything came together like that. btw, Nathan is an awesome name :) : cryptical
  • Only at Valve gentlemen! Only at Valve! : Trips
  • Amazing! I love the Shack. : cookblaze
  • Awesome : chungathebunga
  • <3 <3 : mmaster_pw
  • this is amazing. : orgcaptainnemo
  • So much awesome, thanks for posting this! : glio1337
  • Holy smokes, this is magnificent. : Snuffles-
  • fantastic story :D thanks for sharing it! : skizl
  • Such an awesome gift. : DHAvatar
  • That's touching and terrific. Valve is amazing, and Ecks you rock buddy. : ieGod
  • this is a great, great story punch - thanks a lot for it and congrats for the wonderful son : Nitrium
  • Yeah that was pretty fucking cool : Drewus
  • Ecks is a cool dude. : datoo
  • Very cool story, cool kid. : spazzium
  • Simply amazing. : dissembler
  • I think the thing about Shacknews that gets me more than video games, or the discussion, or the "lols" is... : MercFox1
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    What an amazing story. Ecks and locash are fucking awesome people. : handofthrawn
    • So is kallanta. And, well, pretty much everyone at Valve, it would seem. : dognose
  • Amazing story. People are pretty awesome when shit comes together. And yes, that's Gabes signature. : Beady
  • Yeah, I might have gotten choked up a bit reading that. As much as I get cynical and disenchanted abou... : smoove
  • that's gotta be amazing to get something like that - at that age : multisync
  • That is way cool! : cjcharv
  • That is extremely touching. :-) God job Shack! I applaud you all! : JediDwag
  • Thank you for sharing this! : acheron
  • that's awesome! : prime8
  • kick ass! nice job Ecks, Locash, and Valve \m/ : .Jayson
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    Awww, that's amazing, very classy of Valve. I hope Nathan can make his dreams come true. I am certain he ... : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      Absolutely. For us, it's all about his happiness. As long as he's healthy and doing what he loves, I coul... : punchdog
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        I so wanted to be a garbage man when I was little. You got to hang off the back of a truck! : Agrona
        • I loved that movie as a kid. Also the pranks were lol. : Sailor of Fortune
  • This makes me warm and fuzzy :D : timaste
  • Excuse me, I'm verklempt. I love you guys, but no gay stuff. : Thresher
  • So great, I love this community :D : quadeh
  • awesome story. kids are awesome, shackers are awesome, valve is awesome. : kevp
  • best post I've ever read! =D : DscytheX
  • Really awesome. Glad it all worked out. You kid seems great and it's rare when kids give a shit about t... : kingdepork
  • very very cool : thekidd
  • awesome story. also, you're a fucking awesome dad. : Jikim
  • Wow. That's so awesome. I'm glad you found the book for him. And Valve is such an awesome company on top ... : Robotic Puppy Eater
  • Great story. I have a copy of that book too. Time to eBay it. : DogDharma
  • cool story. cant believe valve put all those sigs in there for you. special book! im sure he will cherish... : chilln
  • Cool story! I have a feeling that one of these days a shacker is going to donate a kidney. : Orange Pylon
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    Glad I could help make his Christmas :D. I didn't know that the gift card he sent along was his, that ma... : Ecks
    • dood, you're a great a person for making this happen. i bow to your kindness. : Korban
    • ^^^ I have played miniature golf with this man and can attest he is cool! : Zero|DPX
  • This is amazing. :D It's great that you are feeding your son's passion. : freshyk
  • sweet! all the guys from ValvE, You rule! : supermonkeyballz
  • Fantastic story thanks for sharing. I've always been extremely proud to be a part of such a wonderful com... : Scotty22
  • Group Hug!! but seriously, this story is super cool on so many levels. i feel like i've been to church ... : gorphine
  • Amazing story dude. : Chip Munk
  • Great story but get these onions away from my eyes : SlingBlaze
  • totally awesome. : baconisgod
  • That's really awesome. Thanks for sharing it and hooray for Ecks and Locash. : Senate5000
  • He'll be talking about his BEST. CHRISTMAS. EVER. for a long time! : Just A Girl
  • That is really fantastic. Great work guys. What an awesome community we have there. : bakanoodle
  • aww man I teared up a little at this. Ecks & locash you are awesome : GloriousCow
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  That's awesome! Just wait 'til next year when you have to beat it! : boarder2
  • :( : punchdog
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    haha exactly. kid is setup to be let down for life now : feek
    • only if he winds up working in the industry :P i kid, i kid..... Seriously, great story and good lu... : Borzoi
• Very cool! : jcrockerman
• You have an awesome son! : MatzL.E.
• What a beautiful story. GG shack! : randomjgj
• i like how he gave you terminator salvation, was probably like "piece of crap you're going in the box too... : Chandler55
• Very cool story indeed. Faith in humanity has been restored. I hope Nathan turns out the next big thing, ... : usmcmueller
• Does any other industry have support like this? This story brought a tear to my eye. It's gotta be awesom... : repeat2k
• Cool story bro. : fsck
• Very awesome! I hope my future offspring are as cool as Nathan! : illwill18
• Awesome. : wtNORTHMAN
• great story. cute kid :) My son is 14 now and is a Halo fanatic. Anything and everything about Halo (espe... : freakord
• What a great story. : stelth
• Faith in humanity restored :) It's so good to see that people like this are out there! : Athlon7
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  There's.. there's something in my eye. : SiW.
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    Seriously that pic with him throwing the horns is awesome : SiW.
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      Also I kind of want a robot shirt like his : SiW.
      • shirt.woot.com Goldfish of doom. Although it doesn't appear to be available any more. : punchdog
      • http://shirt.woot.com/Derby/Entry.aspx?id=37678 : punchdog
• Bump for the morning crew. : punchdog