Weekend Discussion: Not Right Now You Don't

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  First of all I will get this out of the way: I am still, and will always be, a Duke fan. No person, gam... : dognose
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    That's so totally cool dognose, but whoa, let's backtrack to the part about you having a son? When did th... : askedrelic
    • maybe he was a sailor? or an adventurous mushroom hunter? maybe stumbled upon a ship or plane while high ... : happynoodle
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    You have a 13 year old son? Since when? 13 years go? : iamgoat
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      Also, has he played Duke3D? : iamgoat
      • He has not; not yet. His mom's boyfriend has; first picture of me he ever saw, I was wearing a Duke T-sh... : dognose
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    I think most of those character paints for L4D2 are Moby Francke! : SpaecKow
    • The name looks to start with a "K". : dognose
  • Man, this post is all kinds of awesome. I'm happy you connected. : coyoterys
  • :) : GoldfishInAJarOfPickles
  • dognose this is the most beautiful game-related post I have ever read :D : Dave-A
  • feelgood post of the weekend! : bad_fish
  • Awesome story :) : bipolar
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    I did not think that post would be going where it went. : Geoffrois
    • I know! He seems to prefer playing "The Parish." : RomSteady
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    Pretty sweet : Maddog_Delphi97
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      Thank you for joining us last night. I've been wanting him to play a game with you; you are quite fun. : dognose
      • Yep, it's cool. I just haven't been playing left 4 dead 2 as much lately, but figured you'd want me to j... : Maddog_Delphi97
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    Awesome, awesome, awesome =) : kallanta
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      You want more awesome? He has been working in the L4D2 authoring tools :) : dognose
      • Unfortunately, I can't type a smiley bigger than I already have. How about one of these: ^_^ : kallanta
  • That's awesome. : sKetchflow
  • Awesome! : trOmblyj
  • That's awesome man : MagicWishMonkey
  • Thats great man : DonarUDL
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    there's something in my eyes... THERE'S SOMETHING IN MY EYES SHUT UP : vile
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      Me too! There must be a lot of particulate matter in the air tonight >:( : Dave-A
      • getting it up here too... do onions bloom? : kallanta
  • That's great! : ShoCon
  • Aw! :D : helvetica
  • This post makes me really happy. And I am happy for you :) : smoove
  • wow talk about gaming bringing you closer together. Awesome story Dognose and thank you for sharing it... : mcpstoner
  • wow this is badass dognose. Very very cool. : royalally
  • Holy shit, I didn't know you had a son! This is a cool post dognose. :) : thetangent
  • This is the best L4D post you've ever made :D Thank you for sharing this with us. : sethmarc
  • cool stuff, nice story. : varsindarkin
  • very nice : sanchez
  • Great story, dognose. I am all smiles... and a little misty :) : edlin
  • omg im teary eyed <3 you're awesome, dognose : sparkly
  • damn dognose thats cool. : jonin
  • So awesome! Zombies bring the world together! : five_percent
  • Wow, this is quite the development. Best wishes to you guys. : DrWaffles
  • Thanks for sharing that dognose. Very touching. Also cool stuff! : jimmy_legs
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    I've recently gotten my dad into gaming too. It is great fun to turn him on to a new hobby. He plays L... : weevil bob
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      Steam is great. He also asked for Fallout 3 (his mom's boyfriend told her it was OK, which solidifies to... : dognose
      • Fallout 3 is awesome. Huge time sink though. It may impact his L4D time!! : Dave-A
  • Best post ever. I am crying too. You win, Valve. Game over. : Lightzout
  • you made my week with your post. : creep
  • Awwww : Rag and Bone Man
  • wow... : CecilPhilpot
  • Fantastic story. Kudos to awesome Valve guys as well. : SigENeaT
  • this is: the best story <3 : Deathlove
  • d'awwwww get a real frame for that poster! : GloriousCow
  • this is why i keep coming to the shack. : grendel
  • wow man, awesome! : klearlyunseen
  • yay!! *hug* One day i hope to frag zombies with you both. : happynoodle
  • Awesome story Dognose. You and your son should look at other co-op games to play as well. Serious Sam HD ... : VectorJKL
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    I'm blown away that you have a 13 year old son that lives in Norway. wtf... that came out of left field. ... : K1Bond007
    • yeah, me to - but it makes so much sense somehow... : gakera
  • post of the year 2010 : Cheeziologist
  • very cool dognose! : deject
  • This is a pretty awesome post. : Senate5000
  • Probably the most uplifting thing I've read in months lol : Mr. Goodwrench
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    haha thats an awesome story, though i wonder about the inevitable family drama when your son realizes tha... : theWhite
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      It is inevitable. He wants to play on Advanced, and I can barely manage Easy. He got a higher kill coun... : dognose
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        Oh and this was while pinging from Norway against three Texans. : dognose
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          lol I'm all proud and boasting like I had anything to do with it. : dognose
          • welcome to parenthood! : StolenNosferatu
          • Just think of how proud you'll be when you play through a map he made! :) : ColoradoCNC
        • haha thats great. : theWhite
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      Yeah, nothing helps a touching father/son reunion like some idiot barking orders at you and talking trash... : ArB
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        We were playing co-op the other night and we were in a safe room and Nick started yelling "TITS!" "TITS!"... : dognose
        • I have to cover my ears when he uses that kind of language. : ArB
  • That's awesome. : project13
  • That's awesome :D : Danny5225
  • :') : Nali4Freedom
  • There's no part of this story that's not awesome. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • If there was a tag for "The most touching thing I've ever read on the internet" I would have tagged it, t... : Zuchu
  • :'D : Flying h4x0r
  • :D!!!!!!!!!! : Bamtan
  • WOW! So awesome. Valve rule and so do you. : NastyJack
  • this is great! :D : skizl
  • Great story Dognose, however I'm afraid it's further proof that you are in fact The Dude : locater16
  • I demand fanfic. : Boxelder
  • single tear :') : das_runt
  • This is awesome : timaste
  • I am glad to hear this dognose. Brought a tear to my eye : spiffymc
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    did you used to live in norway, i dont know the whole story : oHnOES
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      I've never been. But you can be damn sure I am going. : dognose
      • maybe its too personal of a question but why do you have a son in norway that youve never talked to? : oHnOES
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    you are so awesome dognose I can't wait to meet you and bathe in your glory. : RogerDandy
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      Thanks, sincerely, but the point of my post is that Valve is awesome and L4D/L4D2 are awesome. : dognose
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        yea that goes without saying : RogerDandy
        • Yeah but it's fun to say isn't it :) : dognose
  • pics+divx oh wait....male child....awesome =] : Sovos
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    I never though I'd thank somebody for making me cry, but thank you. : AgentPothead
    • Hippy. :) : erebus
  • but you're not real. : voodooraze
  • Really heartwarming story. Also, Valve kicks ass. : edgewise
  • why i cry? awesome : spiderfill
  • awwwww!!!!!!! : nyranger66
  • rock on dognose! : StolenNosferatu
  • aww, good for you dognose. :) i'm glad you got random goodies (you, of all people, probably deserve them)... : arcane_
  • wow I'm glad I caught this post. : kainen1
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    http://dognose.shackspace.com/L4D2Swag.jpg : dognose
    • They didn't send me Bolt by the way, Galadrial and Ratalon did, via TastyWheat and CoRDS, but I thought i... : dognose
    • that hat should go good on you : kelerian
  • :D :D :D : synapse19
  • Valve, bringing families closer together since 1996. That's such good news, dognose! : Goblin au
  • Brilliant. It's not just valve, you two are awesome, and that made it awesome. : umegastar
  • Best character account post ever! (Just kidding, I am very happy for you and thoroughly enjoyed that vica... : dfay
  • Damn, that is just awesome! :D : MercFox1
  • Goddammit dognose, i'm crying like a woman here... This is really incredible and you're one of the nices... : MrBig0
  • I see a family dukematch in your future. : Orange Pylon
  • :D good things happen to happy dogs : virus
  • Keep your son away from my daughter, if our blood ever mixed neither Valve nor... oh wait, that other gam... : yosemiteclimber
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    This is the best ting I have ever read on Shacknews. You certainly seem like an awesome guy dognose. Do y... : Bamii
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      It is what I live for. : dognose
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        What do you need to make it happen? I will lend you my blanket if you need it. : ArB
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          I need only the knowledge that it will happen, and the desire. And I have both. I will do the rest. : dognose
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            That's cool. Good luck to you. You let me know if you change your mind because I would seriously lend ... : ArB
            • Thank you. : dognose
        • You have my axe! : marmite
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        I really hope you don't have to wait too long. My heart would be broken if I knew I had a kid on the othe... : Bamii
        • I have been to Amsterdam. I loved it. I would love to see it again with you showing me the way. : dognose
  • :) : tomservo
  • very awesome man. I know of noone else who deserves good luck more than you. I'm so happy for you :O) : AMikaboshi
  • I never thought a post about virtual zombie-killing could be so heartwarming, but there you go. : Helter Skelter
  • thanks for posting this dude, you are amazing! : razorblade79
  • Pretty cool, but why did you get stuff from Valve? lol : davidc02
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    I had no idea you had a boy, have you actually met him? How and why is he overseas? Or are we all being g... : abrasion
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      I have not; he lives there; not this time : dognose
      • More info plz! : abrasion
  • Thanks for the lift. : ramshot
  • This way more uplifting that no face monkey chick on oprah. Good on ya dognose. : silentbobuk
  • that's pretty awesome :) : gakera
  • Oh man. That is so damn amazing, really wonderful to hear dognose. Games have only ever brought me happin... : node
  • beautiful man, just beautiful. : marmite
  • A lovely story dognose. I was rather peeved off for no good reason last night, then i read this delightfu... : Snuffles-
  • Wow, great and uplifting story. Awesome! : humbleone
  • that's an awesome story mr. nose, congrats :) you're a wonderful person : Nitrium
  • That's awesome! : ZeroSignal
  • Awesome. : bombay
  • dognose :D! Glad to see you offspring understands the importance of killing zombies. : quadeh
• Holy funk! That is some great news and those are some pretty awesome posters + swag! \o/ : ysbreker
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  \m/ !!!!!!!!!! in so many ways : CoRDS
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    I agree with you that it really is a good game : dognose
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      im also super duper happy you got to talk to your son : CoRDS
      • I love you CoRDS but you know that right? : dognose
• Best video game story I ever read. Thank you for sharing, dognose. And kudos to Valve for doing that. : eonix
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  I don't even know you dognose but being a big fan of your posts I can honestly say that I think you are a... : jdmSlix
  • Thank you. I am but the sumtotal of the influence of those around me, and this very much includes The Sh... : dognose
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  And to think I thought you were just a normal dallas vegan..... we may need to go grap a bite to eat one ... : ju$tmon3y
  • Yes please. I would enjoy this. : dognose
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  i call bullshit. Bought the stuff and signed it yourself. Dognose, you are an attention whore. : Rigor Morts
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    Now I am wondering if any of my posts have ever influenced anyone to purchase a L4D game. I hope so. I ... : dognose
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      I bought L4D2 for myself and a friend based on your review of L4D (the one where you said you were angry ... : ChibiJosh
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        Awesome. I trust and hope it has paid off for you? : dognose
        • Yeah! My friend and I are both tourists, though. We've been playing the campaigns on Easy. :D : ChibiJosh
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      I bought L4D2 based on your posts for myself and 3 of my friends! I only got to play it twice with my fri... : MrBig0
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        There are plenty of people here who will happily play it on Easy with you. : kallanta
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          I sure the hell will : dognose
          • You saved me twice, my hero... /swoon. : yosemiteclimber
    • I bought a Whirly-pop because of you! : bipolar
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      Moreover, I'd love to know who the Valve lurkers are. I wonder if kallanta would fess up to anything. I... : spazzium
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        Mum's the word. Weird to see my own signature on that Dark Carnival poster though. : kallanta
        • Haha, I can't imagine you guys were expecting such a writeup. It's like a WE gift from Valve to Dognose! ... : MercFox1
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          Hahaha, I knew it. You're a fine example of a Shacker! : spazzium
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            Please don't misunderstand. I can't, and won't, take credit for the swag pile. I'm not the only person... : kallanta
            • UPDATE: Still waiting for the username "gaben" to be picked up. lol : MercFox1
            • Oh I know, but I know you at the least did nothing to discourage it :) And since you're the only guy at ... : spazzium
    • I definitely bought L4D2 based on shackers love of 1, yours included : locater16
    • I was kind of meh on the first L4D, but your L4D2 posts definitely have me wanting to pick it up after re... : ColoradoCNC
    • I bought my whirley pop happily because of you and I love it! : handofthrawn
    • Wonder if any how many Shackers went out and bought a Hannah Montana album because of dognose? : stoned wallaby crop circle
    • If it helps, I'm pretty sure I have a Whirley-Pop because of you, but I bought multiple copies of L4D and... : DinK
    • socksta made me buy L4D, but it probably was you who got me into it again and excited about L4D2. We sho... : nurglich
    • I bought L4D1 because of you on Steam, even though I can't play it yet due to inadequate PC, and also I h... : g0nk
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  how the fuck did your son find you? How come you were not in contact with him for the past 13 years? : scener
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    I found him. Long, Oprah-worthy story that all worked out well. : dognose
    • Some dudes here watch Oprah. Just saying. : sweat
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  Dognose I don't know much about quakecon or what happens there but I am planning on coming down this year... : spiffymc
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    What happens at QuakeCon is awesome. Thank you for the flattery but seriously come for the good times. ... : dognose
    • ^^^dognose is a good time, would visit again A+++ dude : askedrelic
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      You and all the Texas guys seem interesting so I am going to come down and show you how to party Canadian... : spiffymc
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        spiffy, are you in toronto? if so, i'll come with you this year : MrBig0
        • Not yet but maybe this summer. It's a toss up as to whether I move to Toronto or Vancouver in a few month... : spiffymc
      • dognose and the Texas shackers are all awesome. Plus, they're much less likely to rape you than any of th : ColoradoCNC
      • Just a warning... metric partying won't work in the US. : ChibiJosh
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  My best friend and I didn't speak for 3 years after a woman got between us. One day I got a steam invite... : spyrext
  • It's true, we sometimes bond in ways other people would have no idea. I bet kodiak has an idea : mwasher
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  I was just messaging dognose about this, and this made me look back at why I'm so grateful for Valve. No... : choppp
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    It's true, I have been a fan of Valve since before Half-Life was even released, and I am utterly amazed a... : ovrlrd
    • I didn't know they were doing that even before HL1, that's truly awesome. : choppp
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  dognose you have a kid??? : ejectorpod
  • Now that I finished reading your post I have to say you're one hard to understand dude, but I like every ... : ejectorpod
  • If the story I posted is true, and I assume it is, then yes : dognose
• sweet kick ass!!!! : supermonkeyballz
• You are the best poster on Shacknews.com : Chod
• SWEET SCHWAG! My best friend has a kid that is awesome as yours. I worked with a girl named shu, and w... : anhero
• Dognose, I once ran a competition on a UK gaming site called Jolt and Valve sent us a huge box of competi... : Durajim
• Thanks for the tears and smiles, mr. Nose. : zuff
• Does your last name end in "stad"? : yosemiteclimber
• Awesome story. I hope you get to meet him soon!!! And Valve...I'm gay for you. : majestik
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  Does your last name end with "****stad"? All good Norsemen have "stad" in their last name. All the one... : yosemiteclimber
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    I'm fairly sure "stad" means horses ass, or something like that. *son is the only way to go, of if you... : Kniggit
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      "stad" means "place" :) : daedraug
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        "place where a horse sits down" : Kniggit
        • You must be one of those pussy "son" or "sen"s... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stad_%28peninsula%29 : yosemiteclimber
  • steen : anhero
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    I like how they do it in Iceland with last names being the father's first name + -son or -dottir. : stoned wallaby crop circle
    • (which is apparently the traditional Scandinavian approach to last names, so a -stad or a -heim or whatev... : stoned wallaby crop circle
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    My great grandfather's name was Torkel Torkelson. You don't fuck with a guy with a name like that, even i... : TheMonkeyWench
    • My great grandfather was Forss Fagerstrom. : RyDogg1
    • http://cdn3.ioffer.com/img/item/233/237/47/o_torkelsons_-Almost_Home.jpg : DonkeyPopsicle
    • There was a K'Nuut K'Nuutsen in the grade below me in High School. : ChibiJosh
• Awesome haul! : ColoradoCNC
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  Wonderful news! I'm so happy you finally got to connect with him, dognose -- sounds like a great kid too... : timm
  • I would love that. Stavanger is correct. I also want to go to Tusenfryd http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu... : dognose
• Is your son living in Stavanger? : minigomp
• I LOVE YOU TOO VALVE AND MY FIANCE PLAYS L4D 2 FOR SIX FUCKING HOURS A NIGHT AND I CAN'T PRY HER OFF OF I... : jingletard
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  you can't just stop that "the first time you ever heard your son's voice was in L4D" and not give more de... : ]pm[chem
  • stop drop : ]pm[chem
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    Yes I can, the point of the post was a thank you/love letter to Valve Software, maker of fine games ht... : dognose
    • lameeeeeeeeee : the city
• Am I the only one not believing 100% that son in Norway actually exists? Dognose refusing to come up with... : electric_wizard

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• I don't know about BSG, but Serenity required you to swallow some pretty out there stuff. Star Trek didn... : BingusLargus
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  I've never even watched an episode of Star Trek and I thought it was good. : Octagator
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    The more Trek you watched the less you would have liked it. : Jimbo Ro
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      Let me correct my self. The more trek you watched the less you would have liked it as a star trek mo... : Jimbo Ro
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        I'm trying to understand this statement but I can't. : xxx2xxx
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          If he watched the series it would be easier to notice how different the movie is : doomed
          • And prolly dislike it because of that : doomed
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          The movie felt nothing like Star Trek. So to me...it wasn't a very good Star Trek movie....but it wasn... : Jimbo Ro
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            Nope, still don't get it : xxx2xxx
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              If the Shawshank Redemption had been sold as Lord of the Rings....you would say "That was a good movie...... : Jimbo Ro
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                Yeah i would be quite confused! Lord of the rings is about monsters and elves and shawshank redemption on... : xxx2xxx
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                  And Star Trek is about the characters. The latest movie gave about 3 minutes of time to develop the char... : Jimbo Ro
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                    http://www.theonion.com/content/video/trekkies_bash_new_star_trek_film : abrasion
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                      http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.com/2008/09/15/109-the-onion/ : Jimbo Ro
                      • This game is fun! : Jimbo Ro
                  • Did you actually watch the ST movie? A huge part of the plot was built around the relationship between K... : action wombmate
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                  Ok wait i get it. Star Trek 2009 took a well known franchise which had its own rules and symbolism, butc... : xxx2xxx
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                    Why can't you love both? :/ I did! : abrasion
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                      Me too! I only hate Nemesis. : xxx2xxx
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                        Man that was a bad movie, makes me angry just thinking about it. : xxx2xxx
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                          What movie? : Jimbo Ro
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                            Nemesis. : xxx2xxx
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                              OH you made a joke, nemesis doesnt exist for you, so you said "what movie"? In that case: HAHA : xxx2xxx
                              • ::tips the brim of hat:: : Jimbo Ro
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                                I view it as a very long deleted scene. : Jimbo Ro
                                • lol : Octagator
                                • Yeah, but at least it really felt like trek :D : xxx2xxx
                            • http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107668/ : Jimbo Ro
                      • RedLetterMedia destroys Star Trek: Nemesis: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZjkHUrEuHc : grendel
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                      I liked the movie...it just didn't fill my desire for Star Trek. Give me a good Trek TV show with good... : Jimbo Ro
                      • a lot of that stuff is in next generation and the older movies : EvilDolemite
                  • I liked the new Star Trek movie, but you can't say it was better than any other Trek movie. Not even clos... : thetangent
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        You're speaking for yourself, not Trek fans in general. : acheron
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          I thought the general consensus was that this was not a movie made for existing trek fans. It had a fe... : Jimbo Ro
          • I think the consensus is it made a lot of money of both Trek fans and newcomers. And I don't know any Tr... : acheron
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      Not true, I like both! : abrasion
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        For what is the first time in my memory, I agree with abrasion. : Solstice
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          thats what happens, you agree with him once and it just keeps going, you keep finding yourself agreeing w... : CoRDS
          • I'm like some kind of bad medicine. : abrasion
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          http://www.shacknews.com/search.x?type=comments&terms=agree&cs_user=Solstice&cs_parentauthor=abrasion&s_t... : abrasion
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            To be fair, I can't blame him for forgetting Windows ME. : Moonbase Commander
            • and it was 10 years ago! : Solstice
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          me too! I'm scared, hold me : RikiTiki2
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            :( http://www.shacknews.com/search.x?type=comments&terms=agree&cs_user=RikiTiki2&cs_parentauthor=abrasion... : abrasion
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              wow you did this same thing the last time I agreed with you : RikiTiki2
              • lol, that's retarded. : abrasion
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              For what it's worth, I've agreed with you before but not as much here. Movie was great, previous attempts... : Ebu
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                I love the new Star Trek, there's a few plot holes but nothing TOO bad if you switch the brain off. The o... : abrasion
                • Uhura's always been hot, TOS or 2009 : RikiTiki2
    • Speak for your self, I've watched my fare share of every series and i still loved the new movie. It sure... : zeejay
• I never watched any episode and that movie didn't really impress me. : The Future
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  My fiancee really enjoyed the new Star Trek movie, never having seen anything Star Trek and generally bei... : umcpwintermute
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    Mine said she liked it a lot when we went together to the theatre. But later admitted she didn't like i... : doomed
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      Mine got me the Blu Ray and asked to watch it again, so it wasn't just an act. Or else it was a very wel... : umcpwintermute
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        Don't fall for it! She just wants to have sex with you and then she'll dump you! : ArtilleryMarker
        • It's true wintermute, I didnt want to tell you this but since ArtilleryMarker has left the cat out of : doomed
• I watched with my girlfriend and one of her (girl) friends and they liked the movie more than I did. I'm... : kill9
• Well it has a lot of hot dudes in it. : Perturbation
• Its better than both of what you mentioned. : bolneze
• I thought I'd HATE the movie. My favorite Trek is STILL original TV series, and first 2-3 maybe 4 movies.... : AxeMan808
• never watched star trek and i loved it. : jenisthebest
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  well, it was pretty awesome. felt like star trek, but also felt fresh. great cast. karl urban was phen : EvilDolemite
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    what did your wife think? : sposh
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      she actually enjoyed it. full attention (kind of hard to doze off due to the frenetic pace of the film),... : EvilDolemite
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        The opening sequence is fucking awesome. Probably the best part of the movie. : orgcaptainnemo
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          Absolutely. I had a feeling I was going to like the movie already, but that scene instantly grabbed me. : kungfusquirrel
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            There were a lot of things I liked about the movie, but FUCK did that retarded engineering "set" piss me ... : thetangent
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              Not knowing what the inside of a brewery looks like, I thought it was pretty awesome (if a bit non-sensic... : qsylvr
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                This might be true. But even so: TOS Warp Core: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/File:Constitution_orig... : thetangent
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                  You never saw pew pew phasers in the movies because picard and kirk thought they were too cool to do flee... : DarkWolf5
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                    No-no, I mean phasers in Star Trek have always been beam weapons (except the pulse phasers used on Defian... : thetangent
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                      And I am saying picard and kirk get shitty trash drops. : DarkWolf5
                      • A yes, I see what you're saying. Sucks for those guys. :-/ : thetangent
        • When I saw that final battle in IMAX I remember thinking "this is doesn't even look like special effects,... : ZombieAcademy
    • she is a woman she thinks what he thought. : mysled
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    Karl Urban is a huge ST fan, fuck he did a sweet job as McCoy - thank god he did the real McCoy justice. : abrasion
    • Really? It's cool to hear about actors that like stuff like that and can admit it. I know Ben Stiller is ... : kagath
  • This movie is a great piece to show off your home theater and HDTV. The movie can be broken up into 3-6 m... : Sailor of Fortune
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  evert time Star Trek veterans complain about the JJ Abrams movie, I think of this: http://www.theonion... : Postal
  • haha, that's pretty good : EvilDolemite

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  G5 or G9 : mrvandelay
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    ^^^ G9 is the best mouse I have ever owned. it's so comfortable. : jimmy_legs
    • I love mine too : RogerDandy
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  I like the MS Habu, which is an Intellimouse Explorer clone. : Link.
  • deathadder. For also being an Intellimouse Explorer clone, but with a good sensor : MamiyaOtaru
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  G500 : ImageOmega
  • I second this : watcherxp
  • I third this with a vengeance. : InfoBiter
• The G9x is awesome. : dmason
• G5 is slightly better than the MX518 : megarust32
• G9 : sanchez
• More love for the G5 here. : biofrog
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  all your choices are either discontinued or really expensive :-( : dahanese
  • i have a G5..whoa. i just checked and it looks like it's discontinued! what the hell. i bought it like ... : EvilDolemite
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    I was just looking on their site for the G5 actually.. I think it's been superseded by the G500 which lo... : biofrog
    • everyone bashed the g5's scroll wheel, and when i got it, it was pretty stiff, but after about two months... : EvilDolemite
    • Yeah, I would check out the G500 since the G5 isn't available anymore. Looks the same for the most part. : megarust32
  • the G9x was on sale @ best buy for $70 recently.. not a bad deal for something marketed as a premium gami... : dopeman
  • G9 is $44 at best buy.com http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Logitech+-+G9+Laser+Gaming+Mouse/8472324.p?id=11... : Prozium
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  G500 : watcherxp
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    I second this. : InfoBiter
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      Why didn't you second my posting of G500? I see how it is. : ImageOmega
      • Because I thirded it with a vengeance instead. I thought that was just cooler. : InfoBiter
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  i just bought a G500, which i found a worthy replacement for my G5.. but after a few weeks I saw the G9x ... : dopeman
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    oh, also the G9x middle click sucks a fat dick. : dopeman
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      Who clicks a wheel duh : RogerDandy
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        The MX518 wheel click is THE BEST. I use it all the time to automatically open up new tabs in a browser. ... : Dr_Cube
        • ^^ i agree. i haven't found a more awesome middle click wheel than the mx518. it most likely has to do ... : dopeman
• Mx518 is the most similar to intellimouse 3.0, I coundt find any for under 30 ;( : Iwannaacura
• Let's go with mike on this one. : freqq28
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  I don't know why people skip out on the MX Revolution... it's amazing. : stelth
  • honestly it's probably a fine mouse, but for the highend crowd, it's wireless, and locked at 800DPI : EvilDolemite
  • Yeah, it's an awesome mouse. It's sad that they never used the fancy scroll wheel in any other mouse, it'... : ErikTehRed
• i'm using a M500 and it seems alright : gyokuro
• Razer DIamondback 3G. : the archvile
• MX518 : Portax
• I went from logitech G5 to Razer deathadder. The shape of the deathadder (based off of MS intellimouse3) ... : wurt
• Mike is correct. MX518 is still king. If you can't find an MX518 G9 is a close second. I do not like the ... : Dr_Cube
• threadjack: thanks to you guys i found out i claw grip my mouse. i really had no idea this was a "thing"... : waxthirteen
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  FPS or RTS, finger mouser or palm mouser? these are important questions!!! : abrasion
  • (I have a Razer Salmosa for RTS and a Microsoft Intellimouse Optical (not explorer) 5 button for FPS) bo... : abrasion
• G9>G5 (2nd Gen)>Mx518 : Sailor of Fortune
• I claw so I prefer the MX518. : R@zzle
• G500 is the new best mouse on the market. Unless you're a wrong-handed mouser. : Ebu
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  mike is pretty much right. been using a MX518 for 6+ years now. best corded mouse i've had the pleasure t... : happynoodle
  • it's on amazon, so i think that's what i'm going to do. : dahanese
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  i just got a logitech g9x and it is some high end badass shit. i love how you can set the scroll wheel t... : crypt420
  • G500 has this too : mysled
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  Microsoft IntelliMouse® Explorer 3.0. : The Key
  • the king of all mice right here. Though i'd imagine its 400dpi limit wouldn't be too enjoyable with large... : wurt
  • Have mine right here for when the Revolution gets stingy. : givemesnacks
  • I use the Intellimouse Optical but I they dont seem to last. : bolneze
  • ^^this. Runner-up: Razer Deathadder The only two fast-enough mice on the market. : _jon
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  speaker question what's the best set of 2.1 speakers for the computer out there? : dahanese
  • http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Z-2300-THX-Certified-200-Watt-Speaker/dp/B0002SQ2P2 : Nali4Freedom
  • Swans M10. Best speakers ever - Logitechs in the same price range do not compare! http://www.theaudioin... : _jon
• I had the mx510 for like 8 years and loved it. Shit out on me in December so I bought the 510. Loving it ... : Navy Spitfire
• I like the Steelseries Ikari and Xai : Serpico74
• I have 3 mice here and the only one I ever use is the MX518... : SKI242
• The Sidewinder X8 is pretty nice, a little heavy though. : lightly inclined
• I still use a MX518. There's nothing more that I need. : xylopagus
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  MX1000 !!! : ateam311
  • if i could find one, this! : watcherxp
• magic mouse : MoreVespeneGas
• I like my Sidewinder X8, but shackers have a huge erection for logitech mice, so I think I'm the only one... : valael
• i still like my intellimouse. =( : mindmann
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  No reason to buy the mx518 with the G500 on the market. : boomstickah
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    why is the g500 so much better? : dahanese
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      The G500 is the G5 relaunched. Both have the same Layout but the G500 is a laser optical mouse. I own thr... : Sailor of Fortune
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        The new texture and mousewheel are inferior for the MX518, but the sensor is much, much better : aggressor
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          I thought the G5 texture was weird at first but it really becomes second nature and now I really like it.... : Sailor of Fortune
          • it is the same, and i don't really like it because it produces wear spots on hi traffic areas.. so you ev... : dopeman
    • g = gooder Duh. : ChibiJosh
• I did not find my recent g9x to be the most comfortable. I know a lot of people love the MX518. I say try... : Lionel2b
• <3 my 518 after all this time, i just keep coming back to it. : rmjackson
• G9!!!! : smax
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  No other mouse feels as right as the MX518. Perfect amount of clickiness to the wheel, perfect button pl... : bipolar
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    On my 3rd one now, used the MX510 before that which is pretty much the same, just a generation older. Ho... : bipolar
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      my dad still uses a MX510. i used to think that was the perfect mouse because of it's weight. i initial... : dopeman
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        I like the light weight. Spray down your mouse pad with some Armor All and the mouse damn near hovers on... : bipolar
        • i basically got used to the weight of a ball inside the mouse from my early FPS days. i still have the n... : dopeman
    • I'm still using the mx520 here. And I love it. : ysbreker
  • You meant to say G9. : razlebol
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  Love my Razer Imperator I recently purchased. It is similar to the MX 518, but I find it a lot more comfo... : ovrlrd
  • This ! : imperator
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  Sub threadjack: What is the best wireless mouse? : airrob
  • I am going to pick the Razer Mamba because it is a dual mode mouse, which has the ability to plug it in (... : ovrlrd
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    like I posted above, I really like my Sidewinder X8. I love the way it feels in my hand and it has the b... : valael
    • ^^^This. I just got an X8 as a gift from my girlfriend since my G7 has started to have issues after 4 ye... : DscytheX
  • G7 G7 G7 G7 G7 : Sapiens
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    Logitech Revolution MX : the city
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      I concur with this. Although it's the Logitech Performance MX now. : DarkWolf5
      • Definitely a great 100 dollars spent. Comes with a fantastic carrying case for all of your charging stuf... : the city
    • I have the nano version and it's pretty damn fine. I use it for gaming too. : melt_core
    • I use this mouse and I <3 it : devnullgt
    • Love these mice and they're great for gaming too. : prime8
• mx518 definitely : steve_o
• MX518. : Marrbe
• http://www.steelseries.com/us/products/mice/ikari_laser/information : Serrin
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  mx518 wins. the shack knows. : umegastar
  • I've still got the MX510. Best .. mouse .. evah. : D11ger
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  MX518 is great for gaming. Shit for Windows/applications compared to an MX Revolution (or similar) though... : nudel
  • (I have both MX518 and MX Rev. plugged into my PC. Best of both worlds. I'd use the MX Rev. for gaming bu... : nudel

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  people like rapture and there might be room for exploration in a sequel but the trilogy/franchise mmo bul... : Hoax
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    shitty ending? you made me sad I liked that ending :( : RikiTiki2
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      It was a great ending to a great story, by most accounts. Of course there's not accounting for personal... : wytefang
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        Story wise the ending was great. Gameplay wise the whole thing took a shit right when you had to start fi : marmite
        • Bizarre - the part where you became a Big Daddy was an awesome and clever twist and it was a blast. I ca... : wytefang
  • ending at the golf scene would cut the plot and story in half... it wouldnt even make sense anymore... ... : x Tempest x
• The first game was about more than the setting and the game's story. It's not something at, imo, needs a... : chazums
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  stunned! just stunned!!! uhhh unless it's written specifically as a larger arc, a good story is meant to ... : spiderfill
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    L4D2 : bipolar
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      we have a winner! : Techy007
      • You'd have a winner if L4D1 had a story. : Octagator
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    I think what you said was fine until it went on to say "such that no other events are possible...." ... : PizaZ
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      yeah its very subjective, but thats typically a way to judge whether or not the story was satisfying. if ... : spiderfill
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        What about Indiana Jones? : bipolar
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          i guess indy is larger arc sort of : spiderfill
          • What arc? What part of the arc were you saying at the end of Raiders, that they needed to develop becaus... : bipolar
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  My gripes are with the gameplay not the setting. : Haku-Jin
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    You must have played a different game than I did, then. It had awesome gameplay for the type of story an... : wytefang
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      I felt it was boring, drab, and uninspiring. The RPG-vendomatic made your choice of plasmids as vapid ... : Jimbo Ro
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        No game, NO GAME has ever come close to providing the sense of setting or atmosphere (and story) that Bio... : wytefang
        • For the record, though, Jimbo Ro, I normally agree with many of your remarks here at the Shack. But (obv... : wytefang
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      Have you played the two System Shock games? Bioshock was pretty good but not nearly as good as SS2. BS2... : Haku-Jin
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        I'm sure Bioshock probably made 10 times the money of either System Shock. Which is why I'm sure they di... : brickmatt
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          That doesn't make it a better game though. I'd rather play the better game. : Jimbo Ro
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            That's nice. Developers probably want to make the best game that still let's them pay the rent. : brickmatt
            • System Shock 2 was ahead of its time, I bet that If it had come out now it would be huge. It's almost li... : Haku-Jin
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              I don't give a shit about that. I'm a gamer, not a stock holder of a game company. And I bet SS2 woul... : Jimbo Ro
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                to be a gamer, you need companies that make games. thus, you do need a balance of game and not going brok... : dahanese
                • Looking Glass did and they're still my favourite company. : Haku-Jin
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                  They will buy it. SS2 great. Because of that I bought Bioshock. Because of that I will not buy Bios... : Jimbo Ro
                  • Exactly, and I really hate to agree with you. They had the opportunity to re-introduce some really i... : Haku-Jin
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                    i finished watching the superbowl and made dinner. also what i said isn't that inflammatory. it's a great... : dahanese
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                      So you're more about selling the game than making the best game you can? And it's not a thought, they ac... : Haku-Jin
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                        i don't make the games, but that's not at all what i said. i'm also not talking about BioShock specifical... : dahanese
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                          Well gamers buy games and we are talking about Bioshock specifically. Having standards and being idealis... : Haku-Jin
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                            i'm sure you're not surprised i disagree! but seriously, i don't want to have this debate. i'm not he... : dahanese
                            • We are looking at the business side of things. Like I said System Shock 2 was ahead of its time, if you ... : Haku-Jin
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                          The business of video games has hurt the art of making video games. : Jimbo Ro
                          • there are definite pros and cons to both sides. : dahanese
                    • If I was a game developer I would be thinking..."I'm going to get fired after we release this game...so I... : Jimbo Ro
            • It does seem most of the industry's in a state of all or nothing in how it works. Either make that consol... : thebigbeefsandwich
      • Played the second SS for a while, it was fun but I wasn't blown away, either. BUT in fairness to SS2, th... : wytefang
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  we already saw all of rapture. how does BS2 work? oh there was more rapture past this hidden door you m... : dantastic
  • Dude, it's South Rapture where the homeyz at ya herrrrrrd : jingletard
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    You went in like half a dozen areas of an entire metropolis. If I went to the CN Tower, the Hockey Hall ... : bipolar
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      All of the interesting bits, yes. : IndigoAK
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        Maybe Rapture is more exciting than Canada. : bipolar
        • doesn't take much to do that : RikiTiki2
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      it's an underwater enclosed area. just seems kind of weird to add more parts to it after exploring what s... : dantastic
      • If you ever looked out the window you could see how much more was there : extrahappyturtle
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    lol. you saw almost none of Rapture. remember the opening with the sub? remember entire city you flew ... : dopefish
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      This was one of my least favorite parts of the game. The water was just too static, you could tell that ... : IndigoAK
      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqZQriiDIKM vs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDqli9F0-m4 seems p... : marmite
      • Try it at 1920x1200 with Dx10, 8xAA and Ambient Occlusion on... Looks might fine here... : x Tempest x
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      As I recall, that was pretty much all of Fort Frolic, along with a few other things. But I can understan... : the archvile
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        Nah, what you covered in the game was only a fraction of Rapture. With BS2 though, they are visiting new... : x Tempest x
        • I'm a bit confused. In BS#1 there were almost no 'normal' people. So 10 yrs later there are many people u... : djdisco
  • Rapture's an entire city, as others have pointed out. You haven't seen "all" of it. : David Craddock
• Or perhaps they didn't enjoy the first game? : Jimbo Ro
• I don't think it's that "stunning" that people don't see a lot of room, storywise, to go with the BioShoc... : wytefang
• I've seen some of where they are going with BioShock 2- you play as a Big Daddy w/ plasmids, there a more... : pyide
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  im stunned that anyone thinks the series needs a sequel after how the first one ended : maulla
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    Does it need it? No. But if it's a good game (and reviews seem to indicate it is), then why not play it... : bipolar
    • Those are the exclusive previews. I'd wait for the other one. I think it will score around 80. : razlebol
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    BS2: The Search for More Money : D45hiz
    • Welcome to the world of commerce... Businesses exist to make money! If they don't make money, then they... : x Tempest x
    • LOL Honestly this is what I thought. It'll be cool to go back, but man what more is there, I hope to be ... : RyDogg1
• Hrm, i liked to hope so, but it's still going to be an underwater dystopia with what looks like the same ... : Snuffles-
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  Personally I would like to see a prequel to Bioshock, back when Rapture was still operational. It could d... : Mad BH
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    The multi player for BS2 takes place during the war so you will get to see Rapture not all fucked up... : DrillBit
    • Hmm.. should be interesting then, at least the setting. : Mad BH
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    What you want sounds more like a novel or movie... There isn't much gameplay you could get out of "the f... : x Tempest x
    • I mean like a game set right when shit started really hitting the fan. That would work really well as a m... : Mad BH
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  its not that I cant see where they can take it, but more of is it necessary? especially five sequels wort... : happynoodle
  • Unfortunately the game industry is more sequel minded than even the movie industry so anything that's rem... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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  In the first game, the setting exists to serve its themes. It was a rare case of a game being 'about' som... : Arceihn
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    I think the reason the marketing has been gameplay/action-oriented is because giving away too much of the : David Craddock
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      I don't want hard facts about the story. All I need is something that indicates to me some high-level ide... : Arceihn
      • Try reading outside of 2K's public marketing and PR. The setting is yet again Rapture, however set 1... : x Tempest x
      • if you want to know more about the story without spoiling the game, or you want to learn more about the t... : dahanese
  • That's a really good comment. : MaJeStu
• A sequel that doesn't expand the overall story in a meaningful way, and doesn't take place in an equally ... : eskimo spy
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  Are there any mods or anything for Bioshock 1 to make it worth playing again? : inchwide
  • I didn't know there were mods for Bioshock; all you'd be modding is the single-player game, unless you we... : the archvile
• Eh? It CAN go in a million different directions. The issue is it doesn't NEED to. I'm glad to see word th... : Tawler
• It's Bioshock 1 with more stuff to do. I've been watching it on Justin.tv and what surprises me the most : jingletard
• The greatest minds just all become splicers and generic one dimensional bad guys though. : Beady
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  I can see where they might go with it, it's just a part of me doesn't want to. The game was sold as being... : DeBurgo
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    Agreed. This is like Jaws 2 and 3, or Terminator 3, or Star Trek: Generations, or Blood 2, or FEAR 2, or... : the archvile
    • they're so quick saying that yes, they planned a trilogy all along, how the technology has improved and l... : doomed
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  Hijacking my own thread! How many of you would like to see a prequel instead of a sequel? Personally, ... : David Craddock
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    I just generally don't feel good about doing a sequel / prequel for the sake of making another game on an... : the archvile
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      I used to think it was the powers that be that prevented original ideas from happening, but I'm becoming ... : DeBurgo
      • Hehe, kinda like Sander Cohen? This is why I'm starting to appreciate the smaller independent develope... : the archvile
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    I love to see the same team put to work on something original rather than revisiting rapture/bioshock. : marmite
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      2K Boston is working on something unannounced, so maybe they are working on something original. Then aga... : the archvile
      • http://irrationalgames.com/ : pyide
    • Sequels are safe. Its just like the movie industry now. : chilln
  • yep prequel would be great. no crazy monsters running amok but seeing how everything came into place woul... : Unleashed
  • as much as i love bioshock, its a really goofy story that is really about a certain character's event int... : spiderfill
  • Neither if they take place in Rapture. Had my fill of that environment. They have proven they cannot revo... : byorn
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    I get that you want a singleplayer experience prior to Raptures descent, however it really doesnt lend it... : x Tempest x
    • You make a good point. You also made me realize that I wouldn't be adverse to a non-FPS BioShock game, or... : David Craddock
• I would have liked to see the reaction of the outside world to the city of "freaks" or the military attem... : Crimsonbeak
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  Personally, I see this sequel as a quick cash grab and nothing more. : razlebol
  • No way. They want to milk this teat x5, that would be bad for buisness. : Pneum0
  • I had a lot of respect for them for doing something different. Something original and taking that gamble : marmite
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  Really? Give the Shack is full of nerds who specialize in "Convergent thinking" (i.e, oriented towards de... : The Key
  • that is not a complete sentence... :( : DeBurgo
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  Sim BioShock: Underwater Metropolis : Sailor of Fortune
  • You can't cut back on Adam! you will regret this!!! : fen boi
• I want a game set BEFORE the fall of rapture. If they do this, I will totally buy it. BS2 is apparently... : boarder2
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  I think they are too fixated on the Big Daddies. The act like souless, mindless, faceless, zombie-like k... : cetra00
  • Thats the whole idea. You play a prototype Big Daddy who isn't brain-washed like the rest of them. You'... : x Tempest x
• I wanted to replay BioShock on my new laptop before buying the new one. It apparently doesn't run on Win... : .Jayson
• I think the problem is The Matrix. The Matrix worked amazingly well as a single, self-contained movie.... : Schnapple
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  The multiplayer looks pretty fun, actually. But sure, I'm not terribly interested in revisiting the city.... : brickmatt
  • drilling people is pretty badass. : dahanese
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  the problem is the FPS part of it doesn't really lend itself to repeat visits. you've done what there is ... : thebigbeefsandwich
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    And it looks like Bioshock2 puts even more emphasis on combat. It worked good on one or two enemies, but ... : byorn
    • They break it up... There are plenty of intense fights, but also mysterious/ scary solo encounters with ... : x Tempest x
• I got the impression the city was destroyed. : tree8
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  Why did you put quotes around "can't see"? I "don't" know "what" you meant with "the" quotes? : mrwolf710
  • Haha, sorry, I'm not normally one to casually throw around quotes. I was reading comments in the "this we... : David Craddock
  • cause he's quoting people : MamiyaOtaru

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• Maus by Art Spiegelman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maus : GloriousCow
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  Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persepolis_(comics) Sandman by Neil Gaiman ht... : GloriousCow
  • Oh yeah, definitely Persepolis. : woddemandred
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  The Walking Dead. You won't regret that. Also Chew, thats entertaining as well. : The Future
  • TWD for sure. I'm a non-comic reader and I love this book. : ImageOmega
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  Berlin by Jason Lutes - a thoroughly realistic treatment of Berlin at the end of the 1920s, early 1930s ... : woddemandred
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    Typical page from Berlin: http://www.walruscomix.com/rollovers/berlin3.jpg : woddemandred
    • This looks interesting. Thanks : nrgXs
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  Check out Chris Ware - Jimmy Corrigan: The Smartest Kid on Earth. It's a series of vignettes showing a ma... : Dave-A
  • Definitely this. : smoove
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  i'm also partial to Blacksad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacksad but i might be biased : GloriousCow
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    Ah, anthropomorphic animals. I would expect nothing less, GC. : gooblerampling
    • really well done detective stories though :) : GloriousCow
• I'm not really a comics reader, but I picked up V For Vendetta last week and would definitely recommend i... : peanut-
• Stuck Rubber Baby From Hell Maus Persepolis Anything by Joe Sacco : jason bergman
• I'll second the "Walking Dead" series--gritty Romero-style-man's-inhumanity-to-man-against-a-zombie-apoco... : bolange
• Bone by Jeff Smith is an amazing high fantasy story that draws on old Pogo comics and The Lord of the Rin... : ZTac
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  Asterios Polyp - Its an artistic comic about a architecture professor whose life falls apart. Its an i... : getfrisky
  • interesting thanks : GloriousCow
  • I just read this recently and really liked it. The art is wonderfully unique and the story doesn't fail e... : geedeck
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  Cool, thanks guys. I appreciate all the responses. I'm glad I didn't come across like "Show me some comic... : gooblerampling
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    What's the intended target for this advice, though? I mean, if it's supposed to be possible to unashamedl... : woddemandred
    • Well, I was looking into parallels between the comic world and video games. Seems much more apt than comp... : gooblerampling
• Walking Dead : CRasterImage
• Midnight Nation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midnight_Nation : master_disaster_17
• Locke & Key - written by Stephen King's son, Joe Hill http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locke_&_Key http://w... : kevp
• Persepolis has already been mentioned. Fun House by Allison Bedechel, about life growing up at a funeral ... : geedeck
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  I converted a non-comic fan with the following. He doesn't like super heroes crap so I stuck to the Vert... : r_picmip 5
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    Holy shit, a Losers movie is coming out in April? And it has the guy from the The Wire? Omg they better... : r_picmip 5
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      A trailer! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHvzsFSdxqk I'll stop talking to myself now. : r_picmip 5
      • This looks brilliant! : scottythejock
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  This list is great so far! I've heard of some of them already (who hasn't heard of Maus?) but many are ni... : gooblerampling
  • Planetes : roushimsx
  • Axa lol : woddemandred
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    all manga, but whatever: ghost in the shell nausicaa of the valley of the wind battle angel alita bla... : miasma&!
    • You're right. I kind of ignored manga when doing a simple search recently. I tend to shy away from it. Ho... : gooblerampling
• Goodbye Chunky Rice, Blankets, Asterious Polyp, Alec: The Years Have Pants : MoreVespeneGas
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  Hard Boiled. : massdev
  • You know that Geoff Darrow had a solo effort called Shaolin Cowboy? Also, Juan Jose Ryp's art style is SP... : AxeMan808
  • ^ Thiiiiiissssssss http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r190/opwound2/geoff-darrow-hard-boiled-2.jpg : Godhatesfatpeople
• From Hell by Alan Moore : Vorlonesque
• Y: The Last Man and Invincible. Invincible starts out slow, but it eventually draws you in. : Fred Garvin
• Stuff by Will Eisner like A Contract with God. : Mecha Tofu Pirate
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  Transmetropolitan. Fucking awesome. Preacher is pretty good and fucked up too. : plunkymeadows
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    Planetary is good too. : plunkymeadows
    • Planetary is a bit more standard comic booky on the surface so it may be a harder sell to people adverse ... : Barnahog
  • yes to both of these! : dahanese
  • Preacher was good and then jumped the shark at some point which I don't remember. : StolenNosferatu
  • Transmetropolitan for sure. : d fluke
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  I'll list things that I still class as "comics" rather than the typically stand alone graphic novels: ... : SiW.
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    Wow, it seems I have tapped a vein of excellent resources. I am glad I asked. : gooblerampling
    • I'm glad you asked too, I'll check out the "artsier" ones other people have posted. : SiW.
• 100 Bullets : edge198
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  Garth Ennis - THE BOYS! Also Punisher (MAX), Hitman, Preacher, Wormwood (and to a lesser extent, Crossed)... : AxeMan808
  • I second Garth Ennis - THE BOYS! : Dr_Cube
  • Damn, yes USAGI YOJIMBO : master_disaster_17
• Optic Nerve is a good one : grendel
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  watchmen. how is this not mentioned? : dirge23
  • 4 reelz dawg : Godhatesfatpeople
  • I've read it and watched the film. I thought it was great but it's the opposite of what I was looking for... : gooblerampling
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  I liked Astro City, but that is still pretty heavily superhero-ish. More down-to-earth than most superher... : StolenNosferatu
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    I forgot to mention DMZ *this time*. Yeah, that's a good one. Isn't this like the 8th comic thread this w... : AxeMan808
    • I have no idea. I could use another book thread though. : StolenNosferatu
  • I really liked Astro City. It's a bit of a deconstruction of the concept of superheroes, and really quite... : Enkidu
• Scalped and Stray Bullets. Both crime stories with a fair amount of graphic content, but amazingly well w... : Earl Greigh
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  Yotsuba& : cerealSAM2
  • ^^^^ knows what the fuck is up : roushimsx
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  The Japanese manga 20th Century Boys. Absolutely epic. : bilbo202
  • Also 'Monster' by the same author. : Lightbulb
• My mum enjoyed Ghost World. : Alice O'Connor
• More of a manga, but I really liked Deathnote : jcrockerman
• Just about anything by Daniel Clowes or Los Bros Hernandez would probably be good for this. : stuka
• I would share a Spiderman comic with anyone : Juno
• Alan Moore, Lost Girls- oh, wait, you said [b]NOT[b] pornography. Nevermind. : TShandy