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  Jay-Z + Danger Mouse - The Grey Album : Dimmona
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    DJ Danger Mouse - The Grey Album. TAG YO SHIT RIGHT >:( : Deathlove
    • I'm with Dimmona, arguably it could be Jay-Z - Song Title (Danger Mouse mix) : threeup
    • If I don't mention Jay-Z, no one will even pay attention to it as most folks don't know who Danger Mouse ... : Dimmona
  • also check, Jaydiohead by Max Tannone : threeup
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  The entire Rhymesayers catalog has to have something you'll like: Atmosphere, Brother Ali in particular. ... : kershner25
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    For old-school, my holy trinity of De La Soul, A Tribe Called Quest, and the Pharcyde won't dissapoint (i... : kershner25
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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHt_SgCwGVU : lodit
      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DC0djnkSno Also sick, one of the few collaborations from his time at A... : lodit
    • 2nd on the Tribe and also Rakim : noven
• Busdriver - Fear of a Black Tangent. : lolpatrol
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  Lupe Fiasco - Food and Liquor Janelle Monae - The Chase Suite People Under the Stairs Sweatshop Union ... : manlyman
  • Much love for Lupe. His The Cool CD is good too. : threeup
  • Kick Push off of Food and Liquor is steller : Piett23
• raekwon - house of flying daggers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7fAY2rI_gw drake w/ lil wayne -ignoran... : peat
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  Blue Scholars, Chali 2na, Gift of Gab/Blackalicious, (MF) Doom, Project Polaroid, Grayskul, Aesop Rock : cpt_gloval
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    ^^^ Great recommendations. I'd also throw in Planet Asia, Dilated Peoples, Mr. Lif and Styles of Beyond. : Head Rush
    • CANNIBAL OX! How you gonna leave them out? And that NASA collaboration sounds good form what I've heard s... : AxeMan808
  • Another vote for Aesop Rock. Grab the album with "Daylight" on it. : Rodeoclash
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  This thread has gone on too long without Nas - Illmatic : ryuuseki
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    that's pretty old isn't it? : cpt_gloval
    • Sure but it's one of the best albums ever made in the genre. : ryuuseki
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      most good shit is old :( : moe6
      • well yeah there's way more old shit than new shit :) : cpt_gloval
  • How you gonna say Illmatic, and not have "& Stillmatic"? Public Enemy. KRS-One / Boogie Down Productions... : AxeMan808
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  Quasimoto - The Unseen : jvox
  • The Further Adventures of Lord Quas was pretty damn good too. : On the Brane
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPQSMmznu_g : jujubeads
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  - A Tribe Called Quest - Gangstar (mos def is part of this.) - Madvillian (MF Doom + Madlib, they have... : squigiliwams
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    You mean Blackstar? : lodit
    • Yes, Blackstar. I am an idiot thanks. : squigiliwams
• The Cool Kids, Camp Lo (specially the first album: Uptown Saturday Night), The Artifacts (disbanded since... : JesperKarlsson
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  Check out Jurassic 5, they're good fun. : ChibiJosh
  • Yeah J5 is a good suggestion. : father_crown
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  MC Frontalot, Jesse Dangerously, mcchris, SJ Wordbuglar, Fresh Kills. ...... : ghost hacker
  • You seem to like nerd rap. Ever listen to ytcracker? His NES album was pretty sweet. : CyCo_PL
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pPgMo_l_cis : sanchez
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  the new Raekwon album : wtf242
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    Yup, and Method Man Redman - Blackout 2 : Mondo
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      Hell yes. Errbody SCREAM! Dangerous MCees, Errbody Scream, Hey Zulu, and City Lights is an insanely stron... : AxeMan808
      • Father's Day is my fav track and all my SMOKERS : Mondo
      • Father's Day is my fav track and all my SMOKERS : Mondo
• Brother Ali's new album is great : snowwolf
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  Blakroc and the new Kid Cudi! : coldfusioncs
  • I second blakrock : chrisschutz
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    Kid Cudi might be some of the worst rap I've ever heard : kershner25
    • what about it? the lyrical content, flow, beats? : Audhuml4
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1h96Qo0tRBQ : honkfrog
• You really need to listen to OutKast. Everyone does. : Tawler
• Esham : bipolar
• Check out Q-Tip - The Renaissance, Talib Kweli (of Blackstar fame) -Ear Drum, and El-P - I'll Sleep When ... : AxeMan808
• Not brand new but check out Pacewon/Mr.Green - The Only Color that Matters is Green, also anything by the... : Yabrodan
• Souls of Mischief, Living Legends, The Pharcyde, The Roots, I just ran across this dude, Del Rio Love Sil... : wickedsalvation
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  Die Antwoord. : CyCo_PL
  • hahaha, their website / videos are a fucking trip : qwpeoriu
• Last.fm : TreMetal
• Snowgoons - The Trojan Horse, La Coka Nostra - A Brand You Can Trust : Mondo
• Dälek is one of my favorites: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gD8RFHNYM4 http://www.youtube.com/watc... : tomservo
• http://www.quannum.com : s2jason
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  The first Gorillaz has 2 pretty good rap songs with Del in them, Rock the House and Clint Eastwood. : father_crown
  • And De La Soul is in Feel Good Inc. : AxeMan808
• louis logic (& j.j. brown), athletic mic league, q-unique, the arsonists, atmosphere, sage francis, lil' ... : wetard
• Saul Williams has done some great stuff. : Mecha Tofu Pirate
• Notorious MSG : SymGeo

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  Quake 2 still has me using right-click as move forward. : dmason
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    wow, really? that was a hard one for me to break, but finally switched to WASD in '02. felt so weird at f... : waxthirteen
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      After playing wow for years its almost impossible for me to play PC fps. Part of my brain wants to keep ... : KxRook
      • I use WASD for moment in WoW, so change there. It was many MONTHS in wow before I found out that press... : Slowtreme
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    Are you sure that was default for Q2? I do not remember that at all. : Slowtreme
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      It definitely wasn't : dewdman
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        I'm pretty sure it was, that's how I got started with it too. : ieGod
        • I'm gonna go home and pull out my Q2 CD :( : Slowtreme
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          I think I spent around 1000 hours playing q2. And probably 3000 playing q3. It was tab in both. : daVinci1980
          • We're talking about the +forward. TAB was never the default for this. : ieGod
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    I did that until... maybe 3-4 years ago I just spent a few months and weened myself off of it... I found ... : chilln
    • keep your movement on the mouse button but change your fire binding to a key. shooting with a keystroke ... : electroly
  • yep, this is where i learned that : Deathlove
  • For some reason whenever I play that or Q3 I have to switch back to the arrow keys + right mouse forward... : ieGod
  • Right click is for jumping, stupid! : omnova
  • right-click forward represent! : Edges
  • Quake 1 set me for life with that setup :) : Godhatesfatpeople
  • same here, for every game forever and always... the only exceptions being Fallout 3, Oblivion, and Border... : zerog83
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  esdf for moving, Tab for scores, g for "use" : jimmy_legs
  • g for use? what game was that? : umegastar
  • Agree. I use esdf for movement so I have a whole extra column of pinky buttons to press. Spacebar is a... : daVinci1980
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  i always hate rebinding my keys in any game. its always the same, rebind EDSF to movement. i wish the ... : oHnOES
  • agreed : Mikuya
  • I agree with this. It makes sense as it's the same as wasd, just on homerow. so much nicer. in the AvP... : jimmy_legs
• Arrow keys, del for reload. : saunders45
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  I stick with whatever the game's default is, even if I have to re-learn some stuff. That's how hardcor... : D11ger
  • But custom lets you jump into practically any game and own face! :D : chilln
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  I'm going to make someone's head explode with this, but... ASDF for movement, Tab scores, E is use, Q ... : MercFox1
  • I have weird setups but you win. : umegastar
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  C for crouch!! Games need to stop with this ctrl bullshit.... : ShadowRam
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    Whatttt? Do you hit C with your thumb or something? My pinky finger is not doing anything and CTRL for cr... : crummynz
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      My thumb, I usually use thumb on space for jump, but I'm clearly not jumping if I'm crouching : Slowtreme
      • I hit both with my one thumb for jump/crouching in CS to get up on something high. : ShadowRam
      • In TF2, there are all sorts of places where you need to crouch while jumping to get past an obstacle. Cro... : evildanish
      • For crouch jumping do you just slide it from C to space? : crummynz
    • I use my index finger on C if that's where crouch is. Pinky on CTRL. I'm typically too lazy to change t... : MurrayTheSkull
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    If theres no toggle, what finger do you hold C with while you move around? : yAak
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      Thumb, you unevolved prosimian. We have thumbs. : LoioshDwaggie
      • You must have tiny hands, pushing C with my thumb and keeping my fingers in WASD crowds everything togeth... : yAak
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      index, ring finger and middle finger on movement keys since you can't move in more than 2 directions at o... : stoned wallaby crop circle
      • that's c=index. ring and middle finger for movement. : stoned wallaby crop circle
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    Control is a bad key because of its awkward location but C is no better since you have to share your inde... : omnova
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      THUMBS! I can jump (Space) and duck (c) at the same time or independently : ShadowRam
      • That feels pretty damn awkward as well. :X : omnova
  • Agreed. : InfoBiter
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    Oh get fucked you commie. Ctrl has been crouch since fucking Quake. : Dschinghis Khan
    • ctrl for walk, shift is crouch : c0bra
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      Fuck that.. (Crouch in Quake? What?) : ShadowRam
      • rail, jump, rail, crouch, rail : c0bra
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        Quake 2,yeah. : Dschinghis Khan
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          See you can't even distinguish between Quake 1 and 2. So not only does it invalidate your claim for Ct... : ShadowRam
          • Your face is invalidated and banned >:( : Dschinghis Khan
  • Space is for crouch and right click is jump! : Omning
• WASD for moving, TAB for scores and left ctrl for crouch. : dissembler
• I rarely rebind, the default usually works well for the last oh 5-6 years. I think the only thing I ever ... : moe6
• I always change shift to jump and space to crouch. : NexusOne
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  Arrow keys + mouse : Mr. Goodwrench
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    CRTL jumps, 0 crouches, amirite? It worked well until every game stoped defaulting to that. : umegastar
    • Actually, for me it was 'End' as jump and my mouse thumb button is always crouch lol : Mr. Goodwrench
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  the only thing i ever bind is voicecom to my side mouse button : feek
  • I do the same thing. Mouse4... or mouse5 if the game has melee, which I bind to mouse4. : crummynz
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  F for crouch : ]pm[chem
  • F for crouch, SHIFT for jump, SPACE for interact. : malevolence
  • f is always for either a flashlight or a close quarters gun like a shotgun : Omning
• shift for crouch and ctrl for sprint or walk. : h o s t i l e
• Right-click to jump : synapse19
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  Middle mouse for reload, page down (button below middle mouse on my MX518) for 'use' : bipolar
  • And I think HL2 was where I broke away from arrow keys for movement and moved to WASD. : bipolar
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  Can someone explain to me how right click for move forward is an effective control scheme? I simply can't... : Trips
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    I dunno why I started it back in the day, but it took months and months to get myself off of it... Jus... : chilln
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      It's extremely common in Azn countries so that they can move with one hand while smoking with the other (... : LoioshDwaggie
      • I use it so I can do more complex button combinations with my left hand while maintaining the forward mov... : TheNiXXeD
  • keyboard is for x and z axises mouse right button and either s or d key is for y axis (depending on us... : nova_x
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  I thought id games always used TAB for scores. It was the Unreal Tournament games that used F1. If my mem... : Gary the Llama
  • the traitor has been revealed! : nova_x
• Q is always Use, A and Z are always ascend/descend, space is always jump : Entity
• ESDF movement. V=reload A=Crouch Z=prone spacebar=jump G=use B=inventory : gyokuro
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  QWES for movement. I think it was either Quake or Marathon that I first played using only a keyboard, wh... : gnomish
  • It was System Shock! Not Quake nor Marathon. I can't recall what the defaults were for Terminator Future ... : AxeMan808
  • freeeeeak! : Omning
  • to be honest, this is probably why you are so bad at every game you play : eeeealmo
• I bind space to "cv_play_with_skill" but I always forget to press it. :( : ChibiJosh
• Q, W, S, E = movement. A and D are Lean if available, or (extra) Rotate l/r if not. Alt is Use. Thank yo... : AxeMan808
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  right mouse = move foward left mouse = shoot w and e = prev weapon and next weapon, respectively q and... : mobab
  • T = chat y = team chat : mobab
  • that zoom thing kills me I never thaught of writing it : umegastar
• I never change the keys. : NFXFSX
• I use pretty standard ease setup, but the first time I played q1 and switched to mouselook the mouse was ... : bundy
• wasd standard, r = Reload always, y/t for chat, tab for scores. Think it all started cuz of HL1, arrow ke... : supaLink
• SDFX for movement. C for crouch, Z for prone. A gets bound to whatever is useful and used often like me... : Scythe99
• The racing games were all QAIO or QAOP : umegastar
• I often rebind ENTER to be chat... I think some FPS did it a while back, I know a lot of RTSs do. : crummynz
• I actually can't play games with the mouse in my right hand, despite being right handed (well, I'm partia... : Beady
• I use arrow keys... : greasyjohn
• wadx -- I put my thumb on x so I always have a finger on a direction key. Mouse2 is jump. I have no c... : ZeekWatson
• Mouse wheel up and down (and mouse 3) for jump. TFC bunny hop was too good to not do that. Weapon cha... : alias
• Some of these are used differently depending on the game or type of game, but in general this how things ... : speon

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  but need to know what people attending an anime convention might love why : GloriousCow
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    Couldn't get laid at the furry convention : tashtego
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      he'll be found out within three minutes when he doesn't know what kind of bread was baked in Ep 23 of Yak... : GloriousCow
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        Yakitate Japan was a GREAT series. : sogelegos
        • It kinda dragged in the latter half though. : miasma&!
      • OMG Yakitate is one of the best series ever. : bolneze
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    Helping a friend do research for selling them junk at a convention. In this case, finding what anime the... : prokat
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      has the dude actually been to an anime convention before? : GloriousCow
      • I never have, but the person selling has many times. Just doesn't keep up with the new stuff. : prokat
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      If that is the case then go with Naruto, Bleach, and Death Note. : denixen
      • ^^^ pretty much. : byorn
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      One Piece isn't a hot new thing, but it maintains a pretty solid fanbase. : ZTac
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        I have seen every single episode of One Piece. Luckily I started watching it when the anime was at episod... : denixen
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          I started on the show and eventually moved to the manga, but I've been a fan of One Piece in one form or ... : ZTac
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            Exuberant madness is probably the best way to describe One Piece. Its absurdity and top notch voice actin... : denixen
            • How else would you describe a show that has a break-dancing carpenter who is a secret agent and turns int... : ZTac
          • I first read it by finding a Shohen Jump magazine in the store where I worked at the time. I think this ... : giant boy detective
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            One Piece is brilliant fun. It's the only anime i want to watch/read. : Snuffles-
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              I'm glad to see more people on the Shack that appreciate One Piece. I try to get my friends to watch/rea... : giant boy detective
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                The series starts off pretty badly. The first 100 or so chapters aren't very good and neither is the anim... : Talonus.
                • It's definitely a slow starter before they get the core crew together and set sail for ADVENTURE, but I w... : ZTac
    • chinese bootleggers have you beat by like a fucking mile on this one, I'm kind of curious as to how you p... : DeBurgo
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  There's only one good anime series and it's Cowboy Bebop. : Ellissd
  • I agree! Well... I'll take Samarai Champloo too... but same sauce, different dish. : prokat
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    You're the equivalent of music dude still insisting Moressey is the best. Cowboy Bebop is great, but t... : geedeck
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      No anime has integrated music as well as Cowboy Bebop and for that reason alone, it is the pinnacle. : Modica Sol Solis
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        lol. A good soundtrack is all you need. Got it. : geedeck
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          No, Cowboy Bebop is a well made anime. So are several others, like Guuren Lagann (spelling?) but the fact... : Modica Sol Solis
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            I'm sorry, but if you only like Cowboy Bebop, a) you don't actually like anime and b) you have no busines... : ArcKnight
            • I like more than Bebop, I just think it's the best. Paranoia Agent was great, so was FLCL, so was GITS. ... : Modica Sol Solis
            • I like more than Bebop, I just think it's the best. Paranoia Agent was great, so was FLCL, so was GITS. ... : Modica Sol Solis
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              If you like anime, you are queer in the head. It's akin to saying I LIKE ALL MOVIES IN BLACK AND WHITE. ... : Pandilex
              • If you like anime, you are queer in the head. It's akin to saying I LIKE ALL MOVIES IN BLACK AND WHITE. ... : ArcKnight
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                Really? Cowboy Bebop is certainly a very westernized anime that fits better with the dub than the origina... : Zek
                • It isn't exactly obscure, but it wasn't very popular show in Japan. At the time the show was a bit too we... : Talonus.
                • Yeah, I lived in Japan for almost 4 years and didn't meet a single person who had seen it, and only one p... : Pandilex
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                I don't get your first sentence. I like anime, but it is also possible that I like other things. : CyCo_PL
                • Anime is not a genre, is the point I tried to make. You can have action movie anime, porno anime, drama a... : Pandilex
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            But you just said it was only b/c of the music! I'm just picking on you. I mean if you want to think i... : geedeck
            • FLCL was fantastic and the music in that was great but I dunno, I think the music of Bebop set such a ton... : Modica Sol Solis
      • you need to watch darker than black - Even Naruto has good music; fitting for it's theme : flagg209
  • As much as I hate anime, I have to disagree. Watch Planetes first, then make that statement again. : Cottc Cid
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  Macross F, Tenga Tekka Gurren Lagaan, k-on (for your blob headed moe girl fix). I'm probably forgetting b... : geedeck
  • Thank you! : prokat
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    I'll second Gurren Lagaan. It was quite the epic little anime that took a refreshing take on the played o... : denixen
    • This man knows stuff! : sogelegos
  • One Piece fans are pretty dedicated, at least here in the states. : giant boy detective
  • I am enjoying the new FMA. I don't really seriously watch anything anymore but it's nice to see the lates : Yanks
  • Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann has been the best mecha series to come out in a very long time. It's complete... : genom
  • Had no idea about the DBZ remake, will have to check it out. : ShekkyBoy
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  Darker than Black - everyone who remotely likes Anime should watch this show - season 1 was brilliant - s... : flagg209
  • Season 3 current does not exist. : Kentor
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    The little girl seemed to be incredibly lame and the main character. Does that change? (Season 2) : frenziedbadger
    • she's the focus, but I think Hei is the main character I'm on episode 8 and while the focus is on suou th... : flagg209
  • Darker than Black is fucking awesome. I've only seen the first 3 or 4 episodes of Season 2 and goddamnit : ArcKnight
  • I thought the characters lacked depth until the second season. : Boring Writer
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  go to animesuki.com and read the forums if you want to know what are the most current, hot series. I've b... : Borzoi
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    The problem with that is you get recommendations for stuff that is generally lame. I still assert that I ... : Dynotaku
    • It's a good recommendation for my purposes I think as a lot of the market is still ninja loving teenagers : prokat
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    Do not do this. That forum is horrible. If you want decent stuff visit ADTRW on SA. Even /a/ on 4chan is ... : Talonus.
    • Most of the ADTRW regulars will tell you to watch Legend of the Galactic Heroes, which is a definite plus... : ZTac
    • I agree with the SA suggestion but there is no way /a/ is better. : Moonbase Commander
• Ghost in the Shell, Cowboy Bebop, Samurai Champloo, Initial D. Nothing new. : Navy Spitfire
• Gundam 00 :) : hobohun7er
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  Evangelion has had a resurgence with the release of the first Rebuild movie. : ArcKnight
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    The second has been released as well, and diverges quite heavily from the original - much moreso than the... : genom
    • I'm talking about North America. The second has only been released in theaters - it's not due for a Japan... : ArcKnight
• New popular one is "Masayoshi Mukai" ... older Elfen Lied is epic... Trigun was good, Ghost in the S... : ShadowRam
• I'm actually really enjoying Yume-iro Patissiere, but I'm a sucker for a specific kind of "sports manga" ... : woddemandred
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  Gundam Wing with dubs is great lols. Even better when it's dubbed for the younger audience. Like, "... : Sailor of Fortune
  • Gundam Wing had such a hilariously bad dub. Duo, Zechs, and Noin were the only characters with decent voi... : ArcKnight
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  Is Death Note still popular with all the cool kids? Well, either way, it's great. Melancholy of Haruhi Su... : Orange Pylon
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    I was in a Anime / Comic book store yesterday and they had a ton of Deathnote stuff available. Pretty muc... : spiffymc
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      I'm surprised how big Japanese manga has grown in regular bookstores. Before, you would have to go to sp... : DHAvatar
      • Well I was shopping for Naruto stuff ;) : spiffymc
• Berserk and I don't typically like a whole lot of anime. : Begawkiness
• durarara!!! is an interesting new one. : crypt420
• ghost in the shell stand alone complex is fucking awesome. : Downforce
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  Samurai Champloo. : Dschinghis Khan
  • ^^^This, a million times this. : Mr. Goodwrench
• Nobody here has mentioned fucking Black Lagoon. What is wrong with you people :( : Boring Writer
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  this thread needs more Baccano! : Zek
  • also Durarara!! is a new series by the same guys(IIRC) that seems like it might be good : Zek
• The animes I have truly enjoyed have been Death Note, Initial D, Hajimi no Ippo, Ninja Scroll, and Neon G... : CrustaR
• FLCL and Paranoia Agent were hella short, but I've rewatched them both several times. BLUE GENDER. : AxeMan808
• Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood is ongoing and great. : bolneze
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  I started going through Deathnote since my friends seemed to love it. I devoured the whole series in a co... : Greymatter42
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    I read the manga up to the death of L and was rather unimpressed, but I understand I'm in the minority th : ArcKnight
    • I gotta say, I kinda lost a lot interest in the anime itself after that happened. It just seemed so unexp... : Greymatter42

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  For a legit answer - i.e., you're trying to make that pic look better - do a levels adjustment. Takes 10... : bipolar
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    for comedy answer, give me a minute to jump on my desktop : bipolar
    • If there is enough comedy in this thread, I will just direct them here. :) : bakanoodle
  • Another way to do this is to copy the background image as a new layer and do soft light. Everything will... : plunkymeadows
• If you are talking about the text being hard to read redo it with an outline or dropshadow or something. : pyide
• I would fix the text with a dropshadow or something because it's hard to read : OverloadUT
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  have them tuck in their shirts : GloriousCow
  • This is why you're glorious and i'm not. : Phreakin
  • actually have that guy just take his shirt off : GloriousCow
• Shirt tucked in. That shit looks VERY unprofessional. : Phreakin
• A better font would help. Arial doesn't work well for things like this. Also, rather than putting the ... : zipr
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  http://www.shackpics.com/files/blah_0owucnnr7o77rjhai7zi.jpg quick n dirty. Leave it to someone else to... : bipolar
  • haha. : bakanoodle
• Like...for comedic effect or sincere improvement? : the if
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  The arches on the shirt make them look like McD employees : Sailor of Fortune
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    So does the word McDonalds on the visor : bipolar
    • hahahahhaha : GBeer11
    • I only have the Shack 4chan image script for GM which gives me a small preview. I thought that was just a... : Sailor of Fortune
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  Tell that faggot to tuck his shirt in and put the visor in front of his hair, otherwise it doesnt do shit... : mrvandelay
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    people like golf shirt tucked in? makes most people look fat in their midsection ..dont like golf shirts ... : cptstern
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      Polo shirts should be tucked in. Casual situations are another matter. : mrvandelay
      • ya but they still look better untucked. but I'm not into the whole golf shirt baggy dockers look : cptstern
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  Here you go http://www.shackpics.com/files/fixed_m8edtpnm63iss1hun8gn.jpg : lodit
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    where is the guitar? :p : bakanoodle
    • They are looking longingly at their guitars, they can't have them until they get the photo right. : lodit
  • lol : Edges
  • lol : ThomW
  • hahahah : Xanthos
  • It never gets old! : mrtony
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    No ones ever going to top blackdickguitar. RIP : Godhatesfatpeople
    • That was pretty sweet. and massively dong'd. : Phil
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      I believe I missed that one. Is it WS? : c0bra
      • God no. It was nuked but it's on the lol museum I think. : mrvandelay
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        very nws. i believe it was the only edgewise photoshop to get nuked : electroly
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          Nah, my shop of him on a girl bent over with her box showing got nuked. : lodit
          • yeah, porn/nws edgewise shops are bad i guess :( : ass-street
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        About as NWS as you could get. And edgewise didn't like it so it was nuked. Honestly can't blame him thou : thetangent
        • Ya, that is fair. : lodit
  • GOLDEN : Phil
  • hahahahahah YES : Downforce
  • Ahahahaha, nice : thetangent
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  Hands, down, tuck in shirts, get the text much better. Toss a McD's logo on it. : oldschoolbob-o
  • Serious post, align all the text at the bottom and throw the McD's logo on there. Make the uniforms actua... : lodit
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  nothing, spend time on something else more important. : not work safe
  • Yeah, that's kind of why I sent this to the shack. : bakanoodle
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  Is it just me or does that guy have super long orangutan arms? : ThomW
  • Yeah his raised arm looks enormous for some reason. : Barnahog
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  Drop shadow on the text or floating background boxes for them : et72
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    and then some lens flare : Downforce
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      I was thinking of making it an animated gif and incorporate a star fade somehow. : bakanoodle
      • AKA CANT READ THE FUCKING TEXT : et72

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  Sanchez, please! : ghost in my shell
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    Wait for us stupid people where do we go with this key... : ghost in my shell
    • Oh got it. Woot. : ghost in my shell
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  Hold on to like 10 of those until the DOD shackbattle tonight. : ArcKnight
  • will do : sanchez
• I'd like one. Been craving Bad Company 2 action since my 360 redringed last week :/ : yemeth
• you are a prince among robots : eeeealmo
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  Please thank you mr sanchez man : Jinxplayer
  • Thank you sanchez : Jinxplayer
• One for me! : sammyjojo
• I would like to try this game! : ChibiJosh
• I'll takey. : jayares
• I would like one :P : crewmaac
• Awesome! Please! : Wolfanoz
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  GIMEE GIMEE GIMEEE! : mrseldowski
  • Also you are the fuckin man :) / @ \ \ ___> \ (__O) \ (____@) ... : mrseldowski
• Send one my way!! : VictoriouSecret
• woo mememe : EagleSweet
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  YES PLEASE! : niceguynick
  • Thanks sanchez. Its safe to download the beta using DownThemAll, yesh? hope so :) : niceguynick
• is there a shackserver going tonight? : Foxhawk
• sweet jesus I would like one. : tested2
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  Fast download link: http://bfbc2.gameservers.com/BFBC2_PC_ClosedBeta_RC1_511270_Client.zip : sanchez
  • Thanks! I have a key but Fileplanet corrupted the shit out of my download. : Albemuth
  • Thanks again. My friends havent been able tot find a reliable download link at all. : Godhatesfatpeople
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  I'd love one for a friend of mine. :O : Godhatesfatpeople
  • Thank you sir! : Godhatesfatpeople
• me please!!! :D : sticktastic
• I'll take one. : Ormsbee
• Testicles! : dumb.
• can i get one for a friend so he and i can play? i have one for myself already =[ : grendel
• PLEASE! (Assuming it's PC and UK shackers are allowed!) : Creepin_Jeezus
• Ill take one please :) : rmjackson
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  That sounds like fun. : InfoBiter
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    Are you asking for a key or just stating the game's funnesssss? : sanchez
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      I would like one ;) Did not mean to be ambiguous. : InfoBiter
      • You sir are a scholar and a gentleman, thank you =D : InfoBiter
• Yes Please!! : dissembler
• Please for 1. Thank you : Damn Dirty Ape
• Yes plz : Shadowdane
• I will take one : Normality
• I would like one please. : zigzag
• Ill give it a whirl. : ju$tmon3y
• I'll take one! : persuxe
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  MEEEE! : stygian_whisper
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    @>---------- : stygian_whisper
    • 2nd one for my buddy. He is a shacker, Sarcastro, but he is at work. :-* : stygian_whisper
• Would LOVE to get one!!! (and would be even more awesome, if you could include a 2nd one for my buddy... : electric_wizard
• I would love one. : Crimsonbeak
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  I would love one. : mechanicalgrape
  • Thanks! : mechanicalgrape
• Plz pretty plz I need a key :D : JamesArhy
• I'd like one. Thanks! : mathyou
• yes please! : shavenewok
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  Yes please, the game isn't available to purchase on Steam to people living in Japan! : Nighteyes
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    And, if possible, 2 more keys for my shacker friends Nullzero and Supine who are in Japan/Korea. : Nighteyes
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      ALL GONE ^^^Took last 2, greedy bastard! : sanchez
      • Woo, sorry people below me! See you on the battlefield when I get home from work in 5 hours : Nighteyes
• If you have any left I'll take one. Thanks. : sairis
• There goes the neighborhood. : J4NUS
• plz plz : Ziggurat
• Me please! : sexydingo
• Plllllease! Not for me, but for friends! My brother and his friend and I want to have a lan party with ... : Athlon7
• Got anymore? : mtms

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  how does it know? : Slowtreme
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    It uses the accelerometer to measure how often you are moving around. : mrvandelay
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      do you sleep with it strapped to your side or something? how would the accelerometer help? : electroly
      • You put it on your bed, next to your pillow. The accelerometer is very sensitive and will pick up any mov... : aggressor
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        It senses any movement on the mattress by vibrations basically. : OverloadUT
        • ah, that sucks. it can't be both on my mattress and in the dock in my ipod clock radio at the same time ... : electroly
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          hmm, well since I sleep with my wife, this would be useless I guess. : Slowtreme
          • lol yeah, mine's always getting out of bed at 4 am to go to the bathroom. : Clay
          • Their FAQ says that in their experience your body blocks most of the vibrations from her side of the bed. : OverloadUT
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      does the gen 1 touch have an accelerometer? :( : GloriousCow
      • Yes. : cyclonebee
• I also tried this last night. It was tough to find a spot where the phone could actually register my move... : OverloadUT
• interesting... might have to give it a try, i have a habit of oversleeping sometimes. : Shadowdane
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  you spent an hour peeing? : GloriousCow
  • peeing+falling back asleep I guess? I definitely didn't fall back asleep right away :( : aggressor
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  Oh! I forgot the most important thing....waking up didn't completely suck this morning, but it could have... : aggressor
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    What time did you set the alarm to go off? It's important that you determine that it actually went off at... : OverloadUT
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      I set it to go off at 9:15. The FAQ says it needs a few nights of data to calibrate properly, and before ... : aggressor
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        Right. So that proves that any improvement in your waking this morning was 100% placebo. : OverloadUT
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          Or it's because I got almost exactly 8 hours of sleep. : aggressor
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            Either way, it has nothing to do with the app. : OverloadUT
            • Well, it does have 'relaxing' music to wake-up to instead of annoying as fuck DJs : aggressor
            • Yes. I started using it last night, and it woke me up at the beginning of a "deep sleep cycle", at the t... : J4NUS
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  This will not work for me as I have: A wife, 2 cats - on the same bed. : recoilfx
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    i floop around like a beached fish, there's no way this thing wouldn't end up on the floor : GloriousCow
    • Haha same, I never am in the same position for more than a few minutes at a time. : Chod
• That's pretty cool. Wonder if there's anything like this on the android market : foo
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  repost: its bullshit/placebo according to spiegel online http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/medizin/0,151... : Hoax
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    do you have anything not in bratwusrt language : GloriousCow
    • try babelfish. if you really care/havent found anything in english per google i'd be willing to translate... : Hoax
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    It seems pretty plausible (AASM survey paper): http://www.aasmnet.org/Resources/PracticeParameters/PP_Act... : J4NUS
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      nobody is saying that actigraphy is humbug but that the application claims to be able to recognize sleep ... : Hoax
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        The review article said there were a couple of papers on actigraphy's use in detecting REM sleep disorder... : J4NUS
        • if you read the article you should be able to answer that. "Dass ein Sensor auf einer Matratze prinzi... : Hoax
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        the engadget link says the exact opposite of what you do, they said it worked well : GloriousCow
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          thats what i'm trying to prove. its well publicized nonsense that gadget sites will eat up. a wet towel h... : Hoax
          • and i'm not saying that http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electroencephalography doesn't work (its pretty awes... : Hoax
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  do you sleep alone? i am curious if/how this works for people who share a bed. i would think the noise an... : Mansmells
  • oh maybe i should read the whole thread hey : Mansmells
• interesting. I sleep like shit, am always tired, don't ever remember dreams, etc. I'll give this a go to ... : g0nk
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  I don't get it, since when is movement an indicator of being awake : MoreVespeneGas
  • Their claim is that you move differently when you are in different phases of your sleep cycle, and they c... : OverloadUT
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  wtf did you pee for 30 minutes or something? : Home Nugget
  • It took time to fall back asleep : aggressor
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  Just downloaded it. Curious to find out my sleep patterns. : sonicdeathwalrus
  • yah same... : Shadowdane
• I don't care if it improves your sleep, but I think it would be cool to see how much you move around when... : PointlesS76
• I've been using this for a little over a month now. It's a little hit and miss, but it works more often t... : DapperDan
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  I'm interested in http://www.wakemate.com/ !! : J4NUS
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    Damn, now I am as well. : aggressor
    • But you don't even know if this first thing will work! : OverloadUT
  • This is more like traditional actigraphy, with an accelerometer on the wrist. : J4NUS
• I remember reading that since the best time to wake up is between sleep cycles(90~ minutes long), and tha... : Zek
• anyone tried any of the Sleep apps for android? : cltcprd
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  Speaking of sleep, I really want to try polyphasic sleep. My wife and I are thinking about trying it this... : OverloadUT
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    Is that the 4 on, 1 off, or whatever? : loboca
    • The "uberman" is a 20 minute sleep every 4 hours. The super quick version is that by forcing your body in : OverloadUT
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    THE UBERMAN! Give us all a report on that if you attempt it, I've tried and failed. : nwillard
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      Did you abandon it during the initial severe sleep deprivation phase? From what I've read it can be a nig... : OverloadUT
      • It really was. I couldn't be strict enough. : nwillard
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    I think I'm already doing this, didn't know it had a name other than 'fucked up sleep schedule' : Dalant
    • What exactly is your sleep schedule? : OverloadUT

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• YES! : Degenerate
• Fuck Worlds of Starcraft. It's W40K all the way! : Rice-Rocketeer
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  Are there any human factions in 40k who don't suck the emperor's cock? : pigvomit
  • Death to the usurper! : Arcanum
  • Chaos is sort of human : RikiTiki2
  • The Space Marines killed them all. : yoshimi20
  • Fucker, VENERATE THE IMMORTAL EMPEROR!! : thetangent
  • Suffer not a pigvomit to live!!! : CRasterImage
• ORKZ IS GUNNA OWN U NOOBZ! : Rehevkor
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  sci-fi mmo's never work. I hold out hope though. : chazums
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    EVE Online seems pretty successful. : pigvomit
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      What part of "never" don't you understand? : yoonix
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        ??? EVE works, so never couldn't possibly fit there. Sometimes or most of the time might be better. : pigvomit
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          HE SAID NEVER : yoonix
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            His opinion is wrong. They can work and have worked, and continue to work. Never would imply that they ... : pigvomit
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              I don't know what we're arguing about. It's pretty clear that he said never and you're not grasping that. : yoonix
              • So what exactly are you saying? : yAak
    • For some reason I always forget EVE. I wonder why, maybe it's because it's all in ships or something : chazums
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    Star Trek Online has hit 1 million subscribers. : byorn
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      I love the game and everything, but the amount of subscribers on launch can't be accurately used to deter... : jbury
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        absolutely, but it goes against th "sci-fi mmo's never work". : byorn
        • Ah right, my bad :) : jbury
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      We'll see how those numbers hold up three months after launch. It's still very much honeymoon-time right... : Ride-My-Rocket
      • Yeah, WAR hit 700k after all. : node
      • three months after launch 30days when the free month runs out. : Slowtreme
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    Didn't Anarchy Online do pretty well? I think it's even still around. : kelzmelzer
    • It's been Free To Play for awhile but yeah, it was pretty well off for awhile. : ateam311
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    I think people, myself included, are sick of fantasy MMOs. : freakynipples69
    • Fantasy as in....non human realism or what? Matrix MMO? : sreyes22
• Hells Yeah. : Klebold
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  My Armour is Contempt My Shield is Disgust My Sword is Hatred In the Emperor's Name Let None Surviv... : huds0n
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    Beware the alien, the mutant, the heretic. : DonkeyPopsicle
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      An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred. : etherboy
      • ..and unguarded. : noobja
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  Anyone still playing the other warhammer mmo? : slickdoody
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    Ugh, what a horrible disappointment that was. :( : Rice-Rocketeer
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      ^^ this. I admired the work they put into it, and I liked the overall idea. But they really just laid d... : Lucien Irenicus
      • Yeah I never even finished levelling. And I'm a big Warhammer fanboy. Real shame. : node
      • They tried to create this hybrid of Dark Age of Camelot and WoW and it turned out to be utter shit. : Crimsonbeak
    • I had way too much fun until I got to around level 11. That Nordenwatch scenario was fun as a Chaos Chos... : o0JediBeavis0o
  • not at the moment, but me and a few other people went back to it a few months ago and had a lot of fun wi... : valael
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  As somebody who never played the table games but loves reading the Codex and playing the recent games -- ... : Ride-My-Rocket
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    the tabletop game is actually pretty horrible. At least it was 10 years ago when I played it. Clunky ru... : DonkeyPopsicle
    • The figurines always looked great. : Ride-My-Rocket
    • Which edition? There are better rule sets out there, and Fantasy was a better game, but I had a lot of fu... : node
    • The game has changed alot in 10 years, the new edition is pretty good and moves fairly quick and they got... : hatchet165
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    Also, does "unveiled" mean "show off concept art and storyboards"? Or does it mean they'll be showing a ... : Ride-My-Rocket
    • Let's hope. I remember the announcement for it like 4 years ago. : r_picmip 5
• eldar! : RikiTiki2
• words cannot express how awesome this could be...such a massive and entertaining universe. : rnpvenom
• Awesome. : ImageOmega
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  I thought there already was a 40k mmo? : Haku-Jin
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    Nope, just a Warhammer MMO. : zuff
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      Is there a game genre that hasn't been associated with Warhammer? I guess a racing sim, but they have pr... : pigvomit
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        I would play a 40k racing game :( : Degenerate
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          Isn´t that called Gorkamorka or somthing ? : gebz
          • yup. they also had a game that was like mad max for a bit. but they killed off all the old one off game... : hamachi
          • http://theminiaturespage.com/rules/scf/gorkamorka.html : zebosausamite
        • Why do I suddenly envision the Wacky Races with 40k-themed racers? : ZTac
        • I get the Go-fasta red Ork cart! : loboca
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          The a rpg of the tabletop world. : Klebold
          • meant for gebz comment : Klebold
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        They even tried racing. Gorka Morka, based on the baord game - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndLhrTw-wgA : node
        • Haha wow. : pigvomit
• That will be absolutely fucking awesome. I hope they make a OS X client :( : umcpwintermute
• Clay, we'll need a forum and 17 threads dedicated to choosing a name : Degenerate
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  As long as it's not the guys that made the last warhammer mmo I will have hope. : jedi_27
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    for real. honestly I'd prefer if Relic did this one, they seem to have a knack for 40K : RikiTiki2
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      the article says vigil games is handling it. : JuffoWup
      • yeah, i just prefer Relic to handle it : RikiTiki2
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  Great....Another MMO. : CrustaR
  • Oh come on, there are a billion other genres with far more titles in them. There aren't that many MMOs AT... : node
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    The number of premium MMOs have been declining for a while. : Edges
    • Who said this one's gonna be 'premium' ? : LordHellMaX
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  Twitch gameplay yes or no? Joining a Space Hulk instance and fighting genestealers I can't imagine it ... : yoshimi20
  • I just got a funny feeling in my special place. :( Clearing hulks would be amazing. : node
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  Hell yeah, 40k is so much more compelling than traditional Warhammer. I was going to say I wish they'd... : peanut-
  • and there's already a space marine action game not gears of war http://www.spacemarine.com/ : RikiTiki2
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFHKIFDjk9I : Degenerate
    • Oh fuck YES : peanut-
    • The Emperor does smile upon us! : ZTac
    • Holy shit! I didn't realise this was a Relic game! FUCK YES! : Creepin_Jeezus
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      heard it wasnt coming out on the PC? : supaLink
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        as far as I know it's a console only game but I wouldnt be surprised if that changed somewhere down the r... : Degenerate
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          Interest gone :( : LoioshDwaggie
          • The Emperor is...displeased. : Degenerate
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            looks fucking awesome, but I'm with you. every time I sit down to play a console game, I lose interest. ... : valael
            • there was an online petition i think? relic knows pc pple are unhappy : supaLink
    • ho-lee crap that looks cool : J4NUS
    • what the fuck what the fuck what the fuck no PC? shiiiiiiiiittttttttt that looks fucking amazing : DrFlammable
    • this is awesome, how did i miss it : yAak
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      This IS awesome, but I haven't heard any new news on this for a while now. I'm really hoping it isn't in ... : thetangent
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        Nah, we're busting ass on it. : eonix
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          I hope you have fixed the bolter since the alpha videos. : CRasterImage
          • No way man. We're keeping all features 100% the same as they were in alpha ;) : eonix
        • Can I please play a SoB? : DianeOfTheMoon
    • Oh yeah I remember this. Still looking badass. BTW is that Randy Couture lol? : bolneze
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  is it going to be a flop like Warhammer? because i cant take this anymore. : m0rfus
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    Warhammer was a flop because it made the mistake of trying to break into a crowded field: fantasy-based M... : Ride-My-Rocket
    • I think Tier 3 and Tier 4 were the reason Warhammer flopped. Both of those areas were completely godawfu... : walker270
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      Warhammer was a flop because they spent a year showing videos of the "new" ideas they had. By the time WA... : Slowtreme
      • lol yeah :( : pun][sher
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        This. It's not like Warhammer wasn't fun to play though, it was just missing "something". : Bamii
        • Community - the open groups and public quest made it too easy to not socialize. I played for over a year ... : R.Cade
    • There's plenty of room for at least moderate success for other fantasy MMOs. WAR had a good idea in that ... : Zek
  • Warhammer flopped simply because it came out like 5 months before Wotlk. Plain and simple. : krym3
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  I knew nothing about Warhammer before DoW II. I picked it up for the gameplay and now I'm totally interes... : Duffman8369
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    I knew a little bit about the 40k universe but DoW2 is what really sucked me in as well. I've spent the l... : Degenerate
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      Are there any particular books you would recommend to get started? There are too many to choose from. : gimpx32
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        The Horus Heresy - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horus_Heresy_%28novels%29 Gaunt's Ghosts - http://en.w... : Degenerate
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          Half tempted to read some WH or 40k books as I used to like the tabletops and the lore. But I can't imagi... : yoshimi20
          • theres a lot of crap available but the ones I linked are good stuff. : Degenerate
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            you would be wrong, pretty much anything from Dan Abnett and Graham McNeil are good stuff. the first 3 no... : theWhite
            • Will give them a try at some point then thanks. : yoshimi20
          • There are definitely bad ones (the Dawn of War tie-in novels are mediocre) but there are some suprisingly... : thetangent
  • When I was playing DoW2 I was just thinking the whole time, I wish this was a persistent world game and w... : Slowtreme
  • If you're interested in the lore of the universe, I HIGHLY recommend checking out the Horus Heresy novels... : thetangent
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  Been following this for awhile; glad its not vapor don't fuck it up. : massdev
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    what exactly have you been following? I always try and find new info about it and theres just nothing out... : Degenerate
    • Well, there was a bit of press about it back in 07 ( e.g., http://www.gamespot.com/news/6166560.html ) bu... : Home Nugget
  • so it an mmo rts or mmo 3rd person like traditional mmos? : cptstern
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  Lots of potential here, but also plenty of opportunities to fuck up. My first question is how they're ... : Finestaut
  • well the dawn of war games did a fair job of balancing the races, they could take some cues from there : RikiTiki2
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    I ... hate... the holy trinity of Tank, DPS, and Heals. If they just drop this shit the game will probab... : yAak
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      Yeah, 'cept for the fact that nine times out of ten, any game trying to buck the trend of the Holy Trinit... : Modica Sol Solis
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        Has there been a single game (that 1 out of 10) that didn't that worked? EvE doesn't count, since it's Pv... : LoioshDwaggie
        • Recently? Not really. Most were crushed under WoW. But there were your Asheron's Calls, UO, Star Wars Gal... : Modica Sol Solis
        • Even EVE counts, because you end up with stuff like max-ranging sniper battleships for DPS, big fat blast... : Majuju
      • It's sad because it's true. There are alternatives to the Trinity but they are almost always just "hybri... : Rotten Deadite
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      what do you propose instead? : electroly
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        paper, rock, scissors for every fight : Phreakin
        • We wiped in the raid? Why? Because dude just kept throwing down paper all the time. : Phreakin
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          so - replace one trinity with another... : dedgecko
          • They are kind of the same. You need a mob made up of good quality / quantity of rocks, papers and scis... : CRasterImage
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        I propose that if they're going to dump millions into a game that they put some effort into designing int... : yAak
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          For ideas, lets look at other games. You don't have to invent something brand new, you just have to comb... : yAak
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            It depends on whether you're talking PvP or PvE. I don't see how you can structure PvE in such a way t... : Vincent Grayson
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              Yeah, I'm suggesting a more realistic implementation for AI in PvE. Aggro meters in current MMOs are : yAak
              • Scratch that, I do have a beautiful MMO design (PvP) that I'm dying for someone to make, but I'm definite... : yAak
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      whats an example of a game without the trinity? : spiderfill
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        Planetside and EVE : r_picmip 5
        • both niche products, though both were awesome in their own way : spiderfill
        • What? EVE totally has tanking, dps, and healing builds. : Goncyn
      • If you want to stretch MMO to it's breaking point, then Diablo 2. All DPS. : bipolar
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    What? No. Marines are hella tough with brutal wargear but not too numerous Eldar are high tech, fast ... : node
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      You can't make an Astartes and an Imperial Gaurdsman be equal. Not without violating the canon to the po... : CRasterImage
      • Pretty much this. When we talk about balance, how in the world would PvP work? You would need dozens of... : Moonbase Commander
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        No kidding - it would be a decision decision of epic proportions to do something like this. Really, I don... : thetangent
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          Maybe you play Imperial Guard like a small scale RTS by controlling a platoon, haha. : Sovos
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            or have your player character be a group of them, and as you level up you become more men : RikiTiki2
            • This made me laugh way harder than it should have. : Moonbase Commander
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      You keep mentioning numbers-- what if noone rolls Orks? They don't have this numbers advantage anymore. : the_burd
      • It's not just numbers. Essentially, they could roughly balance an ork non, eldar aspect warrior, marine, : node
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  Unh... unh.... unhhhhhhh : Albemuth
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    O_o : CrustaR
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      CrustaR, don't look! : Snuffles-
      • too late! *ducks* : r3dn3ck
• if anyone from Vigil is here and you are hiring for a sys admin please let me know! : mwasher
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  I have a wish to see this MMO finally try to merge an all out action game with the MMO persistent world. ... : theWhite
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    Oh no doubt this would be great. As an aside: where do I look up information on 40k as I know almost ... : Scotty22
    • http://www.lexicanum.com/ probably the best site to learn about the lore : hatchet165
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      http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page I'd start wi... : thetangent
      • Oh, can't forget: http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Warp : thetangent
  • Yeah, I'm sick of that bar at the bottom of the screen. Fuck that noise. : Rice-Rocketeer
  • EVE style persistence will be a requirement for this MMO. If they just go with a bunch of instances it wi... : Dr_Cube
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  Space Marines have 2 hearts? : Crimsonbeak
  • and can spit acid and eat rocks! : hatchet165
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    Implantation Nineteen organs are implanted in a Neophyte to further bolster his combat and survival ab : thetangent
    • I would love it if some items were upgrades to internal organs/entirely new organs. : Moonbase Commander
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      wow this is fucking crazy : Modica Sol Solis
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        It's just one reason why the Space Marines from WH40K are the pinnacle bad asses across any and all ficti... : Dr_Cube
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          How do they not just steamroll the entire universe? I don't know 40K at all. : Modica Sol Solis
          • Because everything they are fighting is almost as badass, if not actually more so, than they are. Take... : thetangent
          • Numbers. Due to a past civil war, they have been broken up into groups called chapters but each chapter i... : Dr_Cube
  • http://warhammer40k.wikia.com/wiki/Secondary_Heart They have all kinds of extra shit going on in there... : Degenerate
• PLEASE DON'T SUCK YOU GAME YOU : lightly inclined
• fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu YES : Moonbase Commander
• fuck yeah! good bye wow. : jayares
• DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO? ENEMIES, WE NEED ENEMIES! : Techy007
• Oh fuck its "to be" unveiled :[ Got me all excited for nothing. On the other hand Im happy that comic boo... : bolneze
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  so how will Vigil Games manage to pull this off? They've done pretty much nothing. : spaceyme
  • That's what I want to know. I feel the ill wind of fail but a WH40K MMO must not fail. This will probably... : Dr_Cube
• Star Trek, Star Wars (third time lucky) and 40k. At least they've realised Blizzard already have fantasy ... : flooq
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  I HAVE WAITED LONG FOR THIS DAY Obligatory YTMND http://evenindeathistillsurf.ytmnd.com/ : bolneze
  • that was way funnier than it should of been : theWhite
  • HAHAHA I forgot about this YTMND HAHAHAHAHA : Nitrium
  • Would Red Tank approve? : Moonbase Commander
  • hahahaha awesome : Godhatesfatpeople
  • That is fucking EPIC!!! : thetangent
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    http://wh40kpurge.ytmnd.com/ : GloriousCow
    • lol nice : bolneze
  • i'm commander sheppard and this is my favorite post in the internet. : jayares
  • THIS IS THE GREATEST THING THE INTERNET HAS GIVEN US TODAY! : MercFox1
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    • the original dawn of war had great voice. the force commander in dark crusade was the worst change : RikiTiki2
  • great stuff : Crazy Hawaiian
  • lol this is just ridiculous : Degenerate
  • Ytmnd always manages to 1-up it's previous comedy gold : Lionhart32935
• las-cannons and power fists! : radula
• They should make it like Planetside :D : timaste
• Tau better be in this game. : Techy007
• I doubt this will be anywhere near as good as we're hoping for, but awesome none the less. : DerHuhnTeufel
• Didn't they already annouce the 40K MMO a while back? : capt tripps
• If it's like Planetside/BF2 then I am in. : Dr_Cube
• I don't trust Joe Madureira and I don't think his art style is right for WH40K. : Dr_Cube

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  Sounds like Blizzard aint the only one : MoreVespeneGas
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    OH ZING! : jaxpunk
    • indeed : bolneze
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  Sounds like he deserved it to me. An exploit is an exploit and from the way it's stated on the page you l... : ateam311
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    he was using saronite bombs the entire raid, even on previous days. how would anybody in the raid know i... : electroly
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      and i mean, it's fucking Ensidia. it's not like this is some scrub guild who only beat the Lich King bec... : electroly
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        Dude, it says in that news post that the Valkyrs or whatever they are were spawning back on some platform... : ateam311
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          Of course they knew, they didnt know why. Its not uncommon for rogues to use those either. : krym3
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            What? I didn't say it wasn't ok that he was using the bombs. My argument was that at least 1 person there... : ateam311
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              How are they supposed to know what is bugging it?! They can't tell if it's an exploit or just a regular b... : mrvandelay
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                That's a fair argument, as opposed to hopping aboard the ATEAM CANNOT READ train. This didn't cross my mi... : ateam311
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                  I'm not saying they didnt take advantage of it, but I'm pretty sure they had no fucking clue that they we... : mrvandelay
                  • Well, based on what you're saying, I'd totally agree then to the ban being a bit much. I also agree that ... : ateam311
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              I dunno, I pretty much believe that they didn't know what was causing the glitch. How would they have kn... : electroly
              • Chat logs. "OMG DUDES SARONITE BOMBS ARE GLITCHIN' THE THRONE FTW"!!!!" I'm sure blizzard did their h... : grandmasterlee
              • So much hypothetical stuff here :( As grandmasterlee suggested, I wish we could see some chatlogs or s... : ateam311
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              How would you know it was an exploit if you're the first one to do it? Yes, an exploit is an exploit, : walker270
              • Except they beat LK on 10man and saw the proper mechanics of that fight (platform going bye bye). They ca... : SymGeo
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    How is it deserved? The rogue always used saronite bombs (as do most rogues who need the absolutely highe... : aggressor
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      Well if they realized a bug was happening and decided to keep going and take advantage of it to get a wor... : Zek
      • Wow, someone that IS able to read in this subthread. : ateam311
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        You can't really expect them to just quit and lets some other guild grab the world first though. How were... : the_burd
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          This is my perspective. This is Blizzard's problem, not Ensidia's. : Ebu
          • Truth! : unjustend
      • Yeah, cause if I'm facing Arthas for the 1st time and I see the bar get lower and lower, I'll yell - Oh s... : lpearl
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      did they fight the lich king more than once? If they fought it once and saw that it was bugging out, the... : valael
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        They didn't know it was the bombs! It could have been anything. For all they knew, a warlock casting chao... : the_burd
        • the biggest issue i have is that there's a perfectly good chance that the guild may not be entirely hones... : valael
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        They had no idea what was causing it. It's not like they had attempts with and without the bombs. They we... : InfoBiter
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          They had already killed him on a 10man run and it didn't bug that time. Regardless of whether or not they... : SymGeo
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            It DOES NOT bug in 10man. This is a 25man only bug. : pancake humper
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              Exactly, so they were able to see it work correctly in 10 man. There's no doubt they knew that it was bu... : fishbone
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                What? How did you come to this conclusion. : atom519
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                  because if they did it as a 10 man, they'd see how it's supposed to go : valael
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                    right, so they knew it was bugging out - but they had zero clue what was causing it. seeing and completi... : atom519
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                      like I posted above, how do you know they weren't aware of what was causing the bug? I'm not convinced t... : valael
                      • I don't know for sure, no one here does - that's the point I'm trying to make. Fishbone said that Ensidi : atom519
                  • They used the bombs in 10man. : pancake humper
            • That's my point. They saw it work properly in their 10man run so they knew something was wrong when it bu... : SymGeo
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    You fail at reading comprehension. Yes, Ensidia recognized that something was bugged in the encounter... : InfoBiter
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      No, YOU fail at reading comprehension. Try again, perhaps with a less cockish attitute, and then we can t... : ateam311
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        Yah, except you're wrong. : InfoBiter
        • infobiter is spergin out : [fry]
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      They should've submitted a ticket during or after the fight. Not finish the fight and claim world first k... : SymGeo
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        so they should have just intentionally wiped their best run as soon as the platform respawned? DI the ta... : electroly
        • I'm getting the impression there's a lot of people who haven't been in quality guilds contributing their ... : LoioshDwaggie
        • Finish the fight and submit a ticket. I did say "during OR AFTER" When you finish it knowingly bugged ... : SymGeo
  • I don't see how you think it was obvious that it was the saronite bombs causing it. It could have been a... : atom519
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  I was reading about this earlier. Ensidia already had one guy ragequit the game over it. All in all i... : InfoBiter
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    What do those bombs do specifically? : Godhatesfatpeople
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      They're basically just an AoE attack that isn't on the GCD. The reason they were bugging out this par... : InfoBiter
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        haha that's funny. So they ban people for that? How is that the players fault? : Godhatesfatpeople
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          That's kind of the topic of debate here. Apparently some people think they should have just stopped at... : InfoBiter
          • It's like when we propped objects in L4D to help us against certain hordes or specials. Well this is what... : Godhatesfatpeople
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            Having little understanding of the whole situation (since we're left to go by a pretty simple post as opp... : ateam311
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              i still don't understand how this would have been remotely obvious. how would you have made the connecti... : electroly
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                I guess there's no way of knowing it was obvious, therefore my original statement claiming the ban was ea... : ateam311
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                  that's pretty much all i'm saying. if they knew it was the saronite bombs and they still did it anyway, ... : electroly
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                    Exactly. I'm thinking Blizzard has more information then we do regarding this (chat logs maybe), and the... : atom519
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                      Siding with Blizzard before there's evidence seems silly. If there were chatlogs or something I'm sure th... : Conan
                      • They never discuss disciplinary action. : LoioshDwaggie
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                      i doubt they do. why would ensidia be talking on the text chat? they've got ventrilo. : electroly
                      • I realize they have vent, but highly doubt that nothing is ever said in guild/raid chat. Also not everyo... : atom519
                  • When there's like a zillion abilities all being used at the same time I don't know how they could possibl... : chrisschutz
          • I entirely disagree with Blizzard on this. I know how complex a high-level fight can be and that you are ... : LoioshDwaggie
• Banned for 3 days because of a bug they just discovered? : Godhatesfatpeople
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  I don't get what's happening. What's so buggy about "SARONITE BOMBS"? : Rice-Rocketeer
  • A saronite bomb killed my father and raped my mother :( : r3dn3ck
• I''m rich biatch! : Blizzard : anthonybean
• Maybe the ban was a little extreme, but the loot and achievement should have definitely been taken away. ... : Ellissd
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  Blizzard is just pissed that a guild was able to defeat the boss so easily. : phate81
  • Wasn't this released like 2 days ago? : Godhatesfatpeople
  • No they expect it to be beaten this easily by the top guilds. Hardmode is where the real challenge is. : Crimsonbeak
• More like sandy vaginas.. : melt_core
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  but they have no way of knowing what's causing it sounds like they knew the platform was respawning ... : GloriousCow
  • I don't see where in the article you guys are getting this from. It looks like yes, they knew the platfo... : atom519
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  THROW MORE DOTS. COME ON, MORE DOTS : Downforce
  • ok stop dots : sanchez
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  "Blizzard" and "get laid" in the same sentence? : Lucien Irenicus
  • LMFAO I GET IT : atom519
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wttxD9iT9iM Fits well here. : Crimsonbeak
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  If its a bug caused by blizzards bad coding they shouldnt be banned. If I was in the guild, and we not... : chilln
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    Only they were just like "Hell yeah world first!" The proper thing to do would be to submit a ticket d... : SymGeo
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      yeah, I didnt realize they did talk it up like a non-bugged world first. But blizzard shouldnt punish ... : chilln
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        I see nothing wrong with finishing a good run (Hell I wish my guild was at LK right now) but the lack of ... : SymGeo
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          3 days is good, they can get some much needed sunlight. : ant_hillbilly
          • Nah they've all got alt accounts that they're using right now. : Zollington
        • Is this in beta or something? Why should the users be required to log support tickets, with a banning pen... : thecray
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  WoW is serious business. : hbalce1
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    Really. WTF pissed everyone off? Having never tried WoW, I guess I don't understand. These guys hacked th... : Crabs Jarrard
    • it was a bug in the game. using saronite bombs isn't unusual at all : electroly
  • took way too long for someone to post this. : greydog
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  Haha Ensida is playing the oh we didn't know card for about the 6th time. Too bad mmo-champions news is s... : Chod
  • This time it really wasn't their fault.. they swear. : TreMetal
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  it's just 72 hours. no permanent harm, they still have the kill : RikiTiki2
  • Their achievement and loot was also taken away. : SymGeo
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  This is a MMO. It's nothing new for a MMO developer to ban/suspend players because they accidentally or i... : Talonus.
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    Yea, but what would be better is blizz clears out the raid ID, applies the hotfix, and lets them at it ag... : krym3
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      Again, it's a MMO. They're not even a drop in the bucket in terms of Blizzard's earnings, regardless of w... : Talonus.
      • You know how much money we have? We can't give it away fast enough! : one random winner
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      Ensida realized before the kill that they were bugging it, and went with it anyway. They also all know t... : yAak
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        Yeah, but the point is they didn't know what was CAUSING the bug, right? So what else could they do? : node
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          No, thats actually not the point. The point is they knew it was bugged and went on with it. Now, th... : yAak
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            I wouldn't be upset if they removed the World First achievement or even the loot ... but the ban is just ... : InfoBiter
            • But if they knew it was bugged (even if they didn't know what was bugging it) they took that risk and con... : mobab
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  Oh, this is particularly delicious: the post of the guy from Ensidia who ragequit contains identical word : Home Nugget
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    It's not really funny anymore since this is the 3rd or forth time someone has done it to try and be cleve... : Chod
    • Oh I see, I'd never seen it before. Shows what attention I pay to the "big guilds" haha : Home Nugget
  • i can see myself in that legacy of steel photo! : wtf242
  • lol MMO drama : two50six
• Maybe they could have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling GMs kids! : r3dn3ck
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  Ensidia is good enough to have realized the bombs bugged the event. Trying to act innocent "we didn't rea... : SilverSnake
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    so far nobody has provided any explanation whatsoever on why they'd expect ensidia to know it was the sar... : electroly
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      I haven't read all the details about the fight yet, but the fact that saronite bombs damage buildings is ... : SilverSnake
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        The bug is that the frozen throne respawns, not that it gets damaged. I don't think there's any obvious ... : electroly
        • Why are you arguing with people who don't read any information and have zero idea wtf? : pancake humper
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          Personally I think they should've taken away the achievement, the loot, respawned the Lich King, and rest... : electroly
          • I agree, this sounds like the perfect level of punishment. : SymGeo
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          I understood it that it respawned because it got destroyed when it should have been immune. So perhaps it... : SilverSnake
          • Oh, and I'm probably a bit extra in favor of the banning because how annoying they got when that other gu... : SilverSnake
      • They did look at combatlogs and all it showed was damage as usual, you know... like ALL the other fights : lightly inclined
  • So, because they play the game more than others - they are now experts at determing what is going on behi : atom519
• great I guess saronite bombs are going to be nerfed again, this is why we cant have nice things >:( : cap n KRUNCH
• I dunno WTF Saronite Bombs are -_- : bolneze
• NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO one cares ! : rosewood
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  Eve Drama > WoW Drama : royalally
  • Eve Drama is orders of magnitude greater than any other MMO drama you get. Bar none. : MercFox1
  • It's not really a fair comparison. EVE is structured around a "life-like" economy and corporate system. ... : Moonbase Commander
• we got in trouble in everquest for killing an unkillable creature (Avatar of War) by charming his guards ... : wtf242
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  We're discussing WoW players (so effectively junkies) so while I'd normally sympathise, who gives a shit ... : abrasion
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    these particular junkies get paid to play the game : electroly
    • Cool junkies get paid to do cool things, like act in movies and be rockstars. : SpaecKow
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    This is a retarded post. No worries tho as there are quite a few in this thread. : mwasher
    • ^^ wow player(addict) : abrasion
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  WOW THIS MAJOR BOSS IS SO EASY I MUST JUST BE GOOD!! wrong. if your to stupid to realize your exploiti... : wimpy1
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    "if your to stupid" indeed : electroly
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      speaking of bans forever : electroly
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        fucking hell electroly, where do these people come from? make them stop : mwasher
        • The gates have been breached. : stygian_whisper
    • hows your exploiting going? Mine's doing good. : pancake humper
  • lmao look at this post : boring gegtik
  • this is fantastic : lokdown
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  Blizzard is not stupid and would not ban people for "accidentally" causing an exploit. Two words: Chat l... : qsylvr
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    this is a good point. they obviously would have read chat logs including privates before doing something ... : wtf242
    • fuck that. they should be rewarded for finding such an exploit : mwasher
  • Any guild worth a shit would have members smart enough to keep that in vent. : ghost in my shell
• Well, at least now nobody can say that Ensidia never got punished for exploiting content. : MacemanInTW
• God WoW drama is so much stupider than Eve drama : sammyl

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• It's an overall quality issue. : enyakk
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  After playing the demo I can only assume they are all truncating "poorly made, not very fun, appealing to... : pyide
  • Iawtp : marmite
  • but it has boooobeyyysss : conandan
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    You forgot "laughable story butchered from a literary source that wasn't exaclty crying out for it". : node
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      From all I've seen, that's probably the best part of the game though. At least it will make you make you ... : pyide
      • I do believe my brain is starting to break. That's the second time in 2 days where I have repeated myself... : pyide
    • I actually read Dante's Inferno so i'm looking forward to it :) : Skoal^Fyfan
    • http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/1/15/ : kevp
  • After playing the demo, I don't see how such claims could be made anyhow. : abrasion
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    I'll give you poorly made and not fun, but you cant claim that GoW is some super complex game that isnt "... : maulla
    • I guess it's the handling of the source material and setting that makes GoW seem almost tasteful by compa... : pyide
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    I do agree, although this game made me think about this very issue within games design. I guess it's ... : nodebug
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      I dont know man, I must be really easy to please then. I had a blast just chopping shit up in the demo. *... : Ulfie
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        I played a later section at a games expo last year and the character and level design was so crassly hand... : nodebug
        • So Bayonetta is indeed 10x more fun than Dante's? : Skoal^Fyfan
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    I had a blast with the demo. What was so poor about it? : Ulfie
    • Yeah I had fun with the PS3 version, not sure where the hate is coming from. : RyDogg1
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      Everything? You name it. The first thing that hit me as being poor were the basics. The controls and feel... : pyide
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        I don't get it, it feels just like God of War. If you're not a huge fan of those games, then you shouldn... : Halen
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          It doesn't feel anywhere as good as God of War, and that's the problem.. because it's trying so damn hard : pyide
          • Sorry, it feels just like it to me. The way the controls act, the responsiveness is pretty much the same... : Halen
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          Same sentiment here with your first sentence. I am convinced people want to hate if. : abrasion
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            I understand if it's the subject matter--it's revolting, disturbing and gross. But I myself am deeply di... : Halen
            • Same :) : abrasion
          • I'm convinced Visceral Games wants me to hate it. I went in with some optimism but that quickly vanished.... : pyide
          • This...for some strange reason...this : Ulfie
        • I thought it felt very poor and unfun compared to GOW. I can't put my finger on it but it just didn't fee... : marmite
      • I don't like some of the visual elements in the game, like Dante's design, but Hell itself and many of th... : Lone Swordsman
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        i dislike how nobody can actually say anything specific. what was bad about the controls or "feel" specif... : spiderfill
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          Well I didn't write a report on it, and I've long since deleted the demo from my console. If I can rememb... : pyide
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            considering you're the only one saying this, it's highly doubtful we are the ones out of our fucking min... : Halen
            • When the basic input and feel of attacking enemies in a game that is all about doing that nearly 90% of t... : pyide
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        the controls were fine you are on crack : gmd
        • Everyone is taking crazy pills or has short term memories because at the time the demo came out, this was... : pyide
      • the visuals? That were done by Wayne Barlow? One of the most famous and accomplished sci-fi/fantasy/surre... : wtf242
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    I disagree completely. I've played the GoW games a fucking shitton, and Dante's has great looking design... : Halen
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      have you tried the gow3 demo yet? so good. : gmd
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        It is good and looks great but Dane's frame rate wins. : abrasion
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          joystiq said the latest build is 100x better, 1080p and smooth as butter. : gmd
          • I love god of war and Sony but I'll be fucked if I believe a word ofthat until I see it. The amount of b... : abrasion
  • iawtp for the most part. My big desire for games like this is to feel like a badass dude and based on th... : jimmy_legs
  • I was turned off from the demo because I hate mashing the fuck out of buttons on basic enemies, let me co... : ghost in my shell
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  I'm not getting this game because of the concept alone. They could have made a game about fighting in hel... : ryuuseki
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    Same here. I just wouldn't personally be able to enjoy playing a game that raped and killed a great epic ... : Freezerr85
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      Really? Why is an homage in another medium raping and killing the original? Even if it's a bad homage,... : daVinci1980
      • It's a fucking retarded concept, not a bad homage. : ryuuseki
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        There's no desire to make an "homage" here. This is essentially a idiotic B-movie plot with the Dante... : Freezerr85
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          This is pretty much exactly how I feel about it : alnya
          • It should have been an RPG or Action game (like ME), it should have had a ton of exploring and awesome ch... : LoioshDwaggie
  • On the flip side, I'm getting it just to see how ridiculous it will be. The demo alone was comically absu... : deveus1
  • get a CLUE dude. 95% of the RPGs, fantasy novels, and other related works, and so forth are rooted in the... : but why
• less poetry, more fight : lightly inclined
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  It just shows how much cooler our god is. You don't see any games where you fight muhammad, heck you don'... : not work safe
  • Muhammed Ali 3D Boxing ....wait wrong muhammed : SlingBlaze
• Also not sure where the hate is coming from. Enjoying the high framerate and the leveling up tree. : Beef-
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  What about darksiders? Besides the Zelda dungeon elements this game is almost a direct copy of god of wa... : virus
  • Darksiders is probably my favorite game of the last year that isn't an FPS : Halen
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    Darksiders sucked, and it's not really much like GoW at all, save in ways that most of these kind of game... : Vincent Grayson
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      uh...sucked? this game is awesome. : virus
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        I didn't like it at all. The controls felt shitty, the characters looked like they were designed by my 12... : Vincent Grayson
        • i didn't like it either. it managed to take awesome mechanics from other games and suck all the fun out ... : pandastrong
    • You suck! : gmd
  • The only thing Darksiders and God of War have in common is a completely useless combat system, and button... : walker270
• I liked the demo, I'll get it once it hits half price or so. : razorblade79
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  It's not a GOW ripoff!, it's a ripoff of that movie from abuot 10 years ago, called Dante's Inferno. pi... : GoodBoy
  • Dante's Peak. : CyCo_PL
• i preordered it. i loved the demo : wtf242

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  dunno about notorious, but dwarf fortress has a terrible, terrible UI : dirge23
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    Nevertheless, when people mention DF, i feel the urge to make a new fortress : Jinxplayer
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      i play an absurd amount of DF. i own that terrible UI : dirge23
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        Yeah, im quite fluent with the shortcuts too. I cant wait till the next stable build is out. : Jinxplayer
        • it blew my mind when i found out you could use the mouse when designating. makes mining out veins so much... : dirge23
  • EOT : manero
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  MOO3 : trove
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    Do you remember a few reasons why exactly it was a bad UI? From looking at a few screen shots, it would a... : freakynipples69
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      My memory of it was that it was like playing a spreadsheet. : trove
      • ^^^ You had no idea what things did on the UI, then you were overloaded with a billion options. : Chod
• Fable 2 : imperator
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  Borderlands : SeanJuan04
  • voted for this. : chilln
  • Yes, this. : Begawkiness
  • especially the split-screen UI. good lord. : mikecyb
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  CitiesXL : Degenerate
  • my vote too : Nitrium
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    I played the beta for about 30 seconds and couldn't figure out how to do anything : chrisschutz
    • Right there with you. : Rooster Cockburn
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  Saint's Row 2, PC : at0micgarden
  • What an abomination of a menu system that port had. : DrWaffles
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  That new new Army of Two game is my recent example. MOO3 I don't remember fully just a lot of grief. : Sailor of Fortune
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    Army of TWO had a painful UI, and 40th day somehow made it even more difficult to select loadouts and pur... : bashildy@speakeasy.net
    • I don't find this the case at all. In game I would like the ammo counter to show up if it has auto hid i... : Piett23
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  duke3d.exe on the iPhone : TreMetal
  • YES! This is a good one. : freakynipples69
  • Bwahaha, why not just play it on PC? : CrustaR
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  Haven't played it but I hear Assassin's Creed has a painful UI : dumb.
  • The first one as really really really bad. : mrvandelay
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    Haha, yes. It took about 30 clicks to exit the game. I wish I was joking. I ended up just ALT+F4-ing to e... : Gary the Llama
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYvhPij_b3A : mrvandelay
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    Eh, like most things about AC1, it wasn't as bad as people said it was. That game is like Vista: Deserved... : nudel
    • It was a good game waiting to happen and that game was AC2 : flooq
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      I completely disagree. There were awesome elements, yes, but they were so buried in atrocious interface d... : Conan
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        The boats were no worse than a lot of other games throw at you, and just one late part of the game rather... : nudel
        • The boats/water were retarded and I'll accept no defense of them. I can't remember being more frustrated ... : Conan
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  mass effect 1 : FrayLo
  • ^^^^worst inventory management ever. : Dimmona
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  Witcher : Octagator
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    Fuck yes, this too. The UI is half the reason I dropped playing it. : boarder2