Morning Discussion

by Alice O'Connor, Jan 26, 2010 1:15am PST

Today sees the North American release of Mass Effect 2 and, more importantly, the revival of an old favourite Shacknews tradition--the launch day discussion post. So please, keep your Mass Effect 2 out of Morning Discussion because people are avoiding spoilers, or perhaps live in Europe and the thought of anyone playing ME2 before Friday fills them with a furious rage.

So. Something else, then. Read any good books lately? It's not quite a book but I've been enjoying Judge Anderson: The Psi Files Volume 1, a phonebook sized collection of stories from celebrated British sci-fi comic 2000AD starring Judge Dredd's splendid psychic chum Judge Cassandra Anderson. There's a small exhibition of frequent Anderson artist Arthur Ranson's comic art at Orbital Comics near Leicester Square in London, if you're in the area and fancy seeing some rockin' pictures.

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The time has come for a new PC. I'm still on an AGP video card and an AMD 3200+ with 1 Gig of RAM. I can't believe it's lasted this long. Here is my current list, please critique it. I've been out of the loop for awhile and I may be missing stuff. I have not decided on a hard drive yet.

Antec P183 Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129061

ASUS P7P55D Mobo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131404

GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 260 896MB:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125294

CORSAIR 750W PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

Intel Core i7-860 Lynnfield 2.8GHz:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115214

G.SKILL 4GB RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231122

ASUS VW246H 24" Monitor (2ms):
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049

What say you, Shack?

Jan 26, 2010 1:56pm PST

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The time has come for a new PC. I'm still on an AGP video card and an AMD 3200+ with 1 Gig of RAM. I ca... : mourningstar
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  for the same price as that GTX 260, you could have a 4890 : wendigo
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    I am surprised this came in the first reply. For the record, I do not have a good history with ATi cards... : mourningstar
    - i thought the same way but gave in and the 5770 runs just fine. : yacoub35
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      Well, you look like a tard just like the rest of them. Sorry, you'll have to live with it. These fears ab... : ryuuseki
      
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      Every single card ATi card I've ever had has either been DOA or had major issues causing me to RMA it. T... : mourningstar
      
      List your cards and the manufacturers, please. : ryuuseki
      
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      it's not shitting up the thread, you asked for advice and that's some sound fucking advice. : gokart.
      
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      Except for the part about recommending ATI. : kershner25
      
      Which every reputable online tech sites says to do? : ant_hillbilly
      
      You mean the part that would only make sense as of today? : levente@speakeasy.net
      
      This is why Ford and GM are fucked forever. Even if they made the best quality cars for 10 years people w... : themaestro2657
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      With my original build, I went with a 4870. Everything ran like shit. Pure, oozing shit. Whether or ... : kershner25
      
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      I looked at the price difference, and $30-40 isn't enough of a cut to really matter to me. I'll definite... : mourningstar
      
      Never heard of anyone like that - and crazy stories like this at the end always come down to the compaine... : levente@speakeasy.net
      
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      nVidia are not falling behind at all http://pcper.com/#NewsID-8312 : spaceyme
      
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      Lies, damned lies and stats. : levente@speakeasy.net
      
      right. : spaceyme
      
      You got a lemon. I had a 4870 from its release for very long time and everything ran much faster than my ... : levente@speakeasy.net
- Do you live near a Microcenter? : lolpatrol
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  Swap the GPU to a Radeon HD5770. The display is personal preference but you might want to consider the De... : yacoub35
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    Any reason for the display swap recommendation? I'm checking out the Dell right now. : mourningstar
    - no, just a recommendation to check it out since i've seen a lot of guys talk about it recently. : yacoub35
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      The Dell uses an IPS panel so colour reproduction and viewing angles are going to be better. : Alco23
      
      IPS has far the best colors, agreed. : levente@speakeasy.net
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  That RAM and mobo don't match. You need DDR3. : Albemuth
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    Thank you for this. Any brand you recommend? : mourningstar
    - Gskill is fine, I wouldn't but anything else really. : granpachook
    - Corsair! : photonzach
    - for Gigabyte boards, GSkill seems highly compatible. For EVGA boards, Corsair is a good choice. But just ... : yacoub35
    - Post 22,000,000! : GrimmyD
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  Is the ATi 5770 really THAT good? As in, good enough for me to give it a shot? I'm open to change thing... : mourningstar
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    Charts with 5770 and 260 (among others) http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3658&p=5 : lolpatrol
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      God damn. I just checked the price on that and it's way less than the 260. Might have changed my mind h... : mourningstar
      
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      I just breezed right through that, buts looks to be slightly slower in 3/4 of games, draws about 60 fewer... : lolpatrol
      
      Also, that is the Core 216 model, not a vanilla GTX 260 so that is another few FPS right there. : deject
      
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      Take note that the really impressive green bar on those benchmarks is "5770 CF" meaning crossfire, two 57... : yAak
      
      Interesting enough to know, that scales right up to 3x cards. Out of a maximum of 300% performance for 3x... : ryuuseki
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    For about $165 it is a decent buy. : Freon
    - Whoops, should say, for $200 the 4890 is quite a bit faster. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a... : Freon
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  Go with this Gigabyte board - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128409 SATA 3.0 &... : Shadowdane
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    Those reviews don't look very promising. Any other reasons I should consider it? : mourningstar
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      how so, noticed one guy in the reviews where the guy didn't know wtf he was talking about. : Shadowdane
      
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      Looks like I need to learn how to read. Thanks for the suggestion, I will most likely be going with this... : mourningstar
      
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      yup its basically the same board as the Asus, just adds SATA 3.0 & USB 3.0. : Shadowdane
      
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      What's the difference between the gigabyte and Asus boards. Asus claims True usb3.0 and sata 6gb support... : ant_hillbilly
      
      It uses separate controllers here too - http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Overview... : Shadowdane
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  750W power supply is WAY overkill for a single video card unless you are running like 10 drives : retardhumper
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    I'd recommend the 650hx for its sweet modularity, but it's 10 bucks more than the 750tx. Though for me, ... : lolpatrol
    - i'm running the same combo! :) 650HX is win, especially in the uATX MiniP180. : yacoub35
  - yeah there's a 650 corsair that's apparently the cat's meow right now. : dahanese
- Man I want to upgrade : Begawkiness
- Change motherboard to this. USB 3.0 and Sata 6gb support so when you opt for an SSD down the line you a... : ant_hillbilly
- i have the P180 and given what you seem to be putting in the machine it's kind of huge and you might not ... : dahanese
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  GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 260 896MB: Face>Palm. I know, you said you had a bad experience with ATI, bu... : Visceral Monkey
  - yah not to mention if u must go Nvidia, go with EVga. : Shadowdane
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    Okay, I'm not trying to argue, but why is this bad? Like I said, I've been out of the game, so I really ... : mourningstar
    - No, no, you're right if you want to go Nvidia. My suggestion would of course be to go ATI, the 4890 or 57... : Visceral Monkey
    - Nvidia is pure shit right now. Other than clueless blokes no sane person would buy any Nvidia card today. : levente@speakeasy.net
- Lian Li case FTW! : gibolas1234
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  Forget that old Nvidia card - no offense but Nvidia currently is an utter joke and a bad one at that...
  I just read somewhere that in a week or so ATI is releasing its 5830, presumably around $220 but if you are in a hurry, get at least something like the 4890, 4870x2 (a monster dual-GPU) or a 5770 for the sake of DX11... dunno their compared speeds but they should be faster than that old 260.
  
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  Forget that old Nvidia card - no offense but Nvidia currently is an utter joke and a bad one at that... ... : levente@speakeasy.net

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