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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1385-Torchlight

Yahtzee / Zero Punctuation just hammers Torchlight for no apparent reason other than it's been done before.

Jan 13, 2010 12:03pm PST

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http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1385-Torchlight Yahtzee / Zero Punctuatio : Lunatic Angelic
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- Lame. : Nick Breckon
- But Torchlight is awesome. So very awesome D: : Godhatesfatpeople
- this time its personal : spiderfill
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  I got to the part where he complained about having to click for each attack and stopped watching. : mwasher
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    CLICK AND HOLD YAHTZEE. CLICK AND HOLD. : Bean
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      That's just for walking, right? Not picking up items or attacking enemies. : honkfrog
      
      ever since Diablo 2, every one of these types of games I can remember allows you to hold the button down ... : mwasher
      
      Can still click and hold for attacks. : hoov1185
  - hahaha : Godhatesfatpeople
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    Sounds like I should watch it because I agree with him! : OverloadUT
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      but... you don't have to do that. : mwasher
      
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      Really? FFUU : virus
      
      Is this not widely known? It hasn't been the case since the first Diablo. : mwasher
      
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      one of the loading hints is "hold down key for multiple attacks" : filthysock
      
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      Who the hell reads those? : Schnapple
      
      People who want to know how to play : Ebu
      
      People like me. : sheepraper
      
      I read them :( : sugarwaffle
      
      ^^^ people with slow computers. : radarman
- Sounds about right. : Cliffzorz
- He has now moved into my "hate" category. : PointlesS76
- dye-ab-lo? Really? : bipolar
- definitely the review I've disagreed with the most, although I haven't watched all of them : valael
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  I think he's run out of ideas. I mean his shit used to be funny but now it's just goddamned annoying. : Dschinghis Khan
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    I called it, and got jumped on for it, over 6 months ago. Glad to see others are jumping on board! : mwasher
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    He needs to stick with bad games. It is like reading the old SA game reviews. You just want to hear/read ... : byorn
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      Angry Video Game Nerd has equally run out of material. So tired of hearing the same lame descriptions and... : byorn
      
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      See, this is where you're fucking wrong. His latest about Street Fighter 2010 was fucking hilarious and h... : Dschinghis Khan
      
      Plus at least he goes more into the history of a game. I learned a bit from that video, like how Final F... : Mecha Tofu Pirate
      
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      I love him because he continually reviews horrible fucking games and calls out the bad design decisions i... : Godhatesfatpeople
      
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      "He says exactly why" really? His critique either involves basic comments regarding movement or saying so... : byorn
      
      He usually shows what the problems are. And repeats the footage as to why it sucks. I see it a lot in his... : Godhatesfatpeople
  - Agreed, his formula expired. But he's not creative enough to come up with something different. : Nitrium
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    ok cool then don't watch it : virus
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      Nobody should have opinions about anything. : Dschinghis Khan
      
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      Well, I mean I hate Rush Limbaugh, so I don't listen to his show. I can't stand Sports Center when it'... : virus
      
      I like ZP, and i will continue to watch to see if he gets better. And how could you not like Neapolita... : Dschinghis Khan
      
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      Well I gave him another chance, but this time he just flat out said a big complaint of his was in fact so... : mwasher
      
      I mean I understand your schtick being a "mean guy" about game reviews or whatever, but come on.. if you ... : mwasher
  - I've never taken this fucker seriously. Which is kind of the point. His reviews have never been meant a... : IndigoAK
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  [Yahtzee] : And what's the deal with airline food anyway? : CrustaR
  - Hey kids, what's the deal with homework? You're not working on your home! Boooo... : Dschinghis Khan
- Wonder why he hasn't looked at the new Silent Hill yet. : Conan
- Actually I found this one funny and it just made me want to go home and play Torchlight : Schnapple
- Yeah he's gotten old. Not because he's any less funny but because he's hacked on too many genuinely good ... : NastyJack
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  The guy hates basically everything. It's his gimmick. : VictoriouSecret
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    That's because the majority of games are complete shite probably. : Mr. Goodwrench
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      The majority of games he picks are very much *not* shite. : mwasher
      
      But he has a british accent and tosses in nonsensical phrases! Therefore he's funny, you just don't get i... : avatar_58
      
      Didn't mean to tag this, mis-click : Mr. Goodwrench
      
      But they often do have some pretty glaring flaws that people may have missed. : Cliffzorz
  - He's Francis! : Alco23
  - he attacked it but he clearly had fun with it. : filthysock
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    He doesn't hate everything. He assumes the character of an overly-picky and sardonic individual for the ... : action wombmate
    - Yeah, he even slams games he likes. I don't find his reviews particularly compelling, but a 'negative' re... : veras
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  He also hammered Demon's Souls without getting past the second (sort of) level of the game. I don't real... : Begawkiness
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    He's not very good at games, I don't think he tries to hide that fact : Serpico74
    - he's more of a gamer who likes story and setting. you can kind of tell by his favorite games list : spiderfill
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    As a rabid DS fan, I was going to bring this up. Glad you did. He basically said, "WAAH, I suck, it's too... : David Craddock
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      and that probably reflects 95% of the average gaming population.. how is that not valid? : NoCopy
      
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      I would hope that as a 'reviewer' (we're stretching that here) he would try some other options in the gam... : Begawkiness
      
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      Exactly. I've reviewed many games, and in each instance I was required to firmly embrace objectivity. Jus... : David Craddock
      
      Well I believe that to be a contradiction, If you don't care about a certain genre you probably can't com : NoCopy
- I had some similar thoughts when I played through the game but overall its nothing to really shit on. Its... : limpossible
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  Torchlight as a game in its own right is fairly soulless and sparse. As a budget title its impressive. What he said was pretty spot on, there are all these contrivances that really break the flow of the game.
  
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  Torchlight as a game in its own right is fairly soulless and sparse. As a budget title its impressive. W... : Klebold
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    What makes it a soulless budget game compared to Titan Quest or Diablo? : NastyJack
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      What sealed it for me was that you start off then BANG goto a dungeon. From then on its one huge slugfest... : Klebold
      
      I think it stood toe to toe with TQ. I think it's a better game in fact. It's not better than Diablo but ... : NastyJack
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      i always thought the voice acting, cutscenes, and story set them apart. I really like Torchlight, but it... : valael
      
      ^^^^^^^^^^^ : eeeealmo
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    i really felt that the world of torchlight was pretty consistent and i guess streamlined for the experien... : Mr.SEX
    - Its a question of Streamlined vs Sparse then i guess. I will concede that the design choices make it a lo... : Klebold
  - I disagree. Right when a particular section got boring or old to me, they changed it right up. You start ... : MercFox1
  - Pretty much agree. I had a good time with it, but it doesn't have the soul or consistent design philosop... : bipolar
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    My biggest problem with Torchlight is the random stats on everything, including named items and set items... : grendel
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      Damn iPhone I wrote shitty and it put shifty : grendel
      
      The shitty wizard is a fickle soul. : Klebold
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      This is my main complaint as well. None of the Unique weaponry was that good or unique, and the bonuses ... : Rag and Bone Man
      
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      Remotely good? Enchanting was so broken. It didn't matter what you found, you could enchant it to do an... : Moonbase Commander
      
      This is true. Enchanting was fucking awesome. : Rag and Bone Man
  - ^^ IAWTP. It's not grabbing me like D2 and TQ were. I still play it, for the same reason I play Solitaire... : dodob
- That's pretty much dead on imo. I would have been disappointed if I had paid full price for it : chazums
- Yahtzee would be so much better if he stuck with shitty/mediocre games. The only shtick he knows is to co... : Zek
- I forgot this game was out at retail last week, now I know what I am playing this weekend! : Evil Benius
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  Blimey, that Washington video is awful. : Snuffles-
  - It was just really awkward. He wasn't funny whatsoever and the video was a mess. : kingdepork
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    The what? : Nixx2004
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      This http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1060-Washington-DC But don't watch i... : Snuffles-
      
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      That video pretty much confirms that without the fast paced "zero punctuation" editing of his video's, he... : Drewus
      
      Yeah. There was a show he was a host on a while back (or it was a pilot or something) that was unbelieva... : gnomish
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  He wasn't funny back when he started, and he still isn't funny now. : Drewus
  - well shtick runs its course in a decreasing time allotment these days : Downforce
- That was atrocious, especially the bit at the end about Too Human's level design that is patently false. : Majuju
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  When was Zero about actual reviews? It's just a comedy routine. Nothing more, nothing less. : D11ger
  - Agreed http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21890718 : action wombmate
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  Isn't that exactly what you should hammer torchlight for? the game play has been done over and over and o... : radarman
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    what makes any game different than other games of its genre? Do you care that games you play offer "innov... : Benefit
    - i expect some deviation from the formula that has been re-done for 15 years. The only significant "devia... : radarman
- Hmm, I bought this for Â£12 based on Shack recc and enjoyed it. I also laugh at most ZP reviews. I can'... : =]Milo[=
- Yahtzee is horrendous, I don't know how people can stand him. The novelty of his schtick wore off after a... : 2desk2computerofficedude
- Peegies! :D : helvetica
- he's a good troll but this one is just dumb : Benefit
- that was kind of bad, and i usually love his stuff, even when he rips apart a game i enjoy. He just seems... : mindmann
- Yeah, this was as lame as the Wolfenstein one, where he confused the Hexen-esque hubs for "sandbox gamepl... : the archvile
- This is horrible. I wish he was still funny. : Link.

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