Morning Discussion Lite

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  Working in games. You start at game company XYZ, and you think: "This is awesome. I make games for a l... : daVinci1980
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    so what is compensation and benefits like for this? Salary + Bonus from the game? Or just your straigh... : multisync
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      The salary is bad. It's good on paper, sortof. In reality you could work two service jobs, work fewer hou... : daVinci1980
      • Quick shacking and get cracking on that DLC, monkey : riptyde
    • It's all varied, but here's the general gist of things: 1) Your salary is drastically lower than what ... : Ecks
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    That's pretty rough. I used to have to work a lot like that at my old job, but it was mainly to cover up : foo
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      I agree--in the long run, for me specifically--it was a good thing to stick through. It made me realize w... : daVinci1980
      • wait, this was actually what happened to you? that's not the norm from the studios i know. i'm sorry. : dahanese
      • "And that led to where I am now, which is an excellent company who values me as a person and an employee.... : Hellchick
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    Assumedly, you don't get overtime for working 12-hour days, correct? : Majuju
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      No overtime--salaried, exempt employees don't get overtime. : daVinci1980
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        That's brutal. I don't really know what to do with the situation, other than perhaps putting it onto a r... : Majuju
        • There's no need for a special solution, what should be done about the situation is to just stop making th... : Zek
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    this isn't always the case. it varies from company to company. also, you have to remember that it's al... : dahanese
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      This really happened to me, and this isn't nearly all of it. I agree that this particular case was egr... : daVinci1980
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        that's true - and i agree there are quite a few flaws in the industry that could be alleviated most likel... : dahanese
        • Don't be sorry for me. A lot of good came out of the bottomless pit of suck. :) For one thing, it got ... : daVinci1980
        • throwing my anecdotal evidence in that it's closer to the norm. Both game dev companies I worked for were... : dravalen
      • This makes me wonder what sort of hours the Duke Nukem Forever guys worked for those 12 years, lol. : Zek
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    When my last(game dev company) asked us to move to 7 day work weeks I quit. Yeah I was screwing over my f... : dravalen
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      I'm actually really surprised there isn't a game developers union. : one random winner
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        Too many people are willing to work ridiculous hours to be in the industry for a union - if someone union... : MisterPhoton
        • Do you really think there are enough talented game artists and programmers who are out of work? I underst... : jipey
  • Good post, thanks for the insight. Reaffirms my decision to not work in games :) : Arctic Fox
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    What's the solution? More people working on the game? Lower expectations? Fluid shipping dates? : edgewise
    • More people doesn't always help. You have to cut features or slip. : Code RedBeard
    • More people doesn't typically help, because of Amdahl's Law. Lower expectations actually helps a lot--you... : daVinci1980
  • Well written and very true. Usually a big problem is execs/publishers that are disconnected from the game... : byorn
• I've only shipped one title so far, but the experience has been pleasant. When in "crunch", we got free d... : deKaf
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  I think young guys typically work in the games industry as a result of a faulty line of thinking. They kn... : Zek
  • i pretty much agree with this. well said, especially the thing about "working on a game is still work." t... : dahanese
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    I think you missed the part where game dev salaries are 30-60% below standard programmer salaries. : dravalen
    • Yeah I forgot about that. I could see lower pay being worth it though if not for all the other stuff. If ... : Zek
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  Not game industry, but consulting: Billable work: Sunday, 1pm MST: *phone rings* "Hey, we just signe... : riptyde
  • What kind of consulting do you do? I know several and the companies they work for treat them like gods. : one random winner
• I've been in the games industry over 10 years now, I've worked at some shitty companies where you're trea... : jbury
• A friend has a similar story, except that you would have to all change mentions of "catering" to "ramen a... : eyetyrant248

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  Waiting for the client to download :( : WhatIsThisFor
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    Seems worth the wait! : Durajim
    • I should have started the regular download when I had the chance. Instead I relied on the torrent. : WhatIsThisFor
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  I got DC'd then the login server took a shit. I'm out of the noobie zone though so all is sort of well :p... : massdev
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    I'm surprised it took THIS long for the login server to explode, I'm amazed I got a good 40 minutes of pl... : Durajim
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      now I'm getting couldn't transfer character on retrieving maps. OH NOES! : massdev
      • internal server error on app start. : massdev
      • I seem to be unable to get my list of characters. :-( : Aragoat
• As soon as I get off work I will let you know :( : hashd
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  I still don't get how the Federation is going to attack the Borg sectors unless somehow the Federation ge... : Crimsonbeak
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    Neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerd : tboomer2
    • lol : onji
  • maybe the borg have assimilated their way across the galaxy are are on the Fed's doorstep? just guessing... : smax
  • Pretty much why I have no hype for this game. It may be great, but I'll wait a bit. The end game I fe... : Zakko
  • According to the lore, the Borg have started capturing worlds closer to Earth. : WhatIsThisFor
  • the first federation transwarp conduits opened up 5 years before this klingon war : Juno
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  The initial ground movement in the ship is horrible. Just horrible. The first away mission made me feel b... : Visceral Monkey
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    On a related note, we should create a "Shacker" race ad have all the shackfleet members create variations... : SolrFlare
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      lol, perfect! : Durajim
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        Arin'Sen 02 with the detail sliver set to almost minimum, then choose reflective eyes and make them 2/3 m... : SolrFlare
        • Also highly recommend chosing a bright color for the forehead detail and normal human complexion so it re... : SolrFlare
    • I fully endorse this idea. Someone start making some face balls pronto! : tboomer2
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  Heh. Every time I just about have my custom race perfected, the login server goes boom and I have to sta... : SolrFlare
  • Ouch. :-( I got my character created (I think) but then got a message that the map is full and not accep... : Aragoat
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    Wait, so the game doesn't even cache or save what you do on the client end? Is that standard for MMOs???? : Kentor
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      Somewhat - MMO design definately takes the mantra don't trust anything coming from the client. : Jonathan
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        I don't think you can cheat at character creation, right? : Kentor
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          Sure you could : JohnnyRey
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            Like how? Getting the biggest nose on the server? : TShandy
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              Yeah. Something out of the regular parameters. : JohnnyRey
              • But how else would I get my 20' tall Klingon? : SagaciousFoo
        • penis head. I'm just sayin' : DianeOfTheMoon
• I hate you. But I also love you for posting your impressions. : Nitrium
• Wow, few remember the awesomeness of BotF! Awesome. : amrbean
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  Is this pre-orderable online to get a beta key and then cancel the order? Or how can I get a key the ch... : mwasher
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    are you blind, man washer? http://www.fileplanet.com/promotions/star-trek-online/ or http://www.massively... : Nitrium
    • oh i didn't see a free one, thought it was just the fileplanet give away for subscribers thanks! : mwasher
  • Yes. Or you can get it from one of the gazillion places giving them out. : JohnnyRey
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  I'm in, everybody do /channel_join shacknews : Clay
  • I would if I hadn't just been disconnected during the space tutorial. The ground combat wasn't as bad as... : Aragoat
• Disco; Lets Disco, YEAH! : massdev
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  Lag + Disconnects has not let me have fun yet but from what I see, I think it is going to be a blast.. : jdmSlix
  • Is anyone else having bad hitching issues? I understand it is probably because of the massive amounts of ... : jdmSlix
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  Space combat. Holy shit. I just did part of the first patrol open mission with some other people. Awes... : Visceral Monkey
  • That sounds awesome. I wish I could log in again. :-( : Aragoat
• PSST, don't forget to customize your ship when you get to the space station! The ship customize guy is ri... : Visceral Monkey
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  First off, Steam made this shit fucking painless. Downloaded it last night and created a character this m... : theWhite
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    I never played champions online, but CoH/CoV had fairly extensive support and evolution, especially compa... : hbalce1
    • well thats encouraging. With this IP there is a LOT of potential for this game. : theWhite
• Loving the space combat. Takes lots of skill, actually. I thought they would cater to the casual crowd,... : herradura99
• Damn you Maps server, pick up the fucking phone! I'm calling and I want in! : tboomer2
• oh dear, I'm inside the spacestation but I'm still in my ship :/ : jbury
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  i like how im always a ship http://www.cordies.com/sto/beta/screenshot_2010-01-13-08-15-50.jpg : CoRDS
  • hah yeah I had this too, it still had the ship controls and everything :) : jbury
  • Hahahaha. I had a great bug earlier related to that. I was in space, just completed a mission which got... : Aragoat
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  I was going to cancel my preorder after beta, but I'm probably going to keep it. This truly is a great sp... : freakynipples69
  • :D :D : Nitrium
  • Same, I was really worried about the ground combat but I'm really enjoying the beta. Ignoring the proble... : Aragoat
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  pro-tip if you didn't know: alt-rightclick a skill to make it auto run. In ship, you can have up to 2... : JuffoWup
  • Whoa, awesome! I never knew that, thanks! : Aragoat
  • Awesome, thanks : Durajim
  • straight outta city of heroes lol. : rmjackson
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  I wish I could get past loading a map got a char created but cant get past that :( : hashd
  • All I can say is keep trying. :-( I kept getting errors that the map was full but I finally loaded in an... : Aragoat
  • I just found a hint on the STO forums to avoid these errors in the future (it won't help you until you lo... : Aragoat
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  Wait its good? : bolneze
  • O mai : chrisschutz
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  all the keys are gone from fileplanet : jono181
  • and from Massively. I guess the rest of us are relegated to preorder codes. Is Best Buy selling the bo... : MisterPhoton
  • Wait shit I thought they were ALL preorder keys. You mean I had a chance at one? :[ : bolneze
• Man there's just something about a Shacker posting about liking an MMO that just oozes a lack of credibil... : The Wilhelm Scream
• I'm just hoping against hope that ST:O doesn't get nerfed into oblivion right at release. I still have 40... : MisterPhoton
• U.S.S Titays ready for action. Finally got in the game : rak
• Well I would like to play tonight but my download from fileplanet is going at 130k so it looks like I'll ... : giant boy detective
• 7.8GB! holy shit balls I should have gone home during lunch to start the download : mwasher
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  Any fileshack downloads yet? : MisterPhoton
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    NEVERMIND: http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/16562/Star+Trek+Online+Open+Beta+Client : MisterPhoton
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      oh wtf why am I only getting 250kbps from Fileshack Mercury?! I have a FiOS connection : MisterPhoton
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        Try the other server, I'm getting ~650KBps from the west server (and no mercury). : JHelgie
        • I'm getting around 600Kbps from the east server so it looks good. The file is smaller than the other dow... : giant boy detective
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  I'm not getting over 50k on the torrent and since I got in the FilePlanet queue over four hours ago, my w... : BlackCat9
  • I've tried that and it didn't work. : Nitrium
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  Fileshack's STO client file is corrupt! The entire file isn't there, it should be 7+ gigs! : ShadowGod2
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    Have you tried to install it or are you just going by file size? : giant boy detective
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      No, I downloaded the entire thing, got "Unexpected end of archive" when trying to unzip. : ShadowGod2
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        can anyone else confirm? : jono181
        • I'll confirm, unless it's Chrome or my machine exploding, I downloaded this 2-3 times.. all with corrupti... : Draco
  • I haven't been able to download large files from fileshack for years. They are always corrupt. : kevp

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• Free health care during employment too : whistletits
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  Thats job security right there. My dads worked for a government organization for the last 20 years, has n... : not work safe
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    Public sector jobs are awesome so long as you can deal with the political bullshit. I'll retire in the p... : tboomer2
    • private sector jobs have political bullshit too, though =( : not work safe
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    A coworker of mine left to take a state government job. He said he loved the 23 hour work weeks with no ... : riptyde
    • sometimes having little accountability and no real chance to be fired makes you weary : EvilDolemite
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      23? damn, my state job is 37.5 :( : Patch-e
      • god that would be nice... i work 9:00am - 6:00pm every day. Sometimes staying till 7:30-8:00pm if shit... : Shadowdane
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  WT, my friend applied to that position. : CrustaR
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    Does he have any Help desk experience or customer service? : whistletits
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      Yeah, he's done work for Unisys. : CrustaR
      • oh yeah! pm me his name again : whistletits
• Relocate me from WI :( : aggressor
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  I wish the salary were better. Wouldn't mind going to work for the state. : mwasher
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    Of course desktop help desk would make me punch babies. : mwasher
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      lol yeah I hated this job for the 1.5 years I worked it because I've done Help Desk before, but a long ti... : whistletits
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        let me know when a server spot opens up! : mwasher
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          we might be hiring a server admin position in spring, possibly : EvilDolemite
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            working for the university would be my ideal job so that I could start taking some classes again on the c... : mwasher
            • (i would take a paycut for such a position) : mwasher
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              you only get one free class per semester : EvilDolemite
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                including summer? 3 free classes a year would be an awesome perk. : mwasher
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                  no just two total i think wait, it's three, i just checked. one per semester + summer : EvilDolemite
                  • awesome. do let me know when you hear something. <3 : mwasher
              • that's interesting. At UNT we got all course fees waived which in effect made taking classes half price (... : kbnerd
  • It is a stepping stone to better state IT jobs. It is also not one that has you on the street peddling wa... : silent prophet
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  i just applied : wtf242
  • they don't let you work from home everyday :( : whistletits
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  I wouldn't live through the drudgery of Help Desk for double that. : action roommate
  • it isn't in austin though, $39k is a lot of money in New Dehli : gmd
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  man IT people get paid too much money. : Cihte
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    in 1998 that would be a $60K job and their "web programmer" would be making $80K doing HTML w/frames i... : EvilDolemite
    • Ha, I was making $8/hr doing "web programming" as an intern in 98-99. That said I was 18 and didn't know ... : c0bra
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    $39k is too much? : CrustaR
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      I should hope not... : Clasifyd
      • Classified, I agree. : CrustaR
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      I don't think anybody should earn more than $30k / year. Financial success only promotes overconsumption. : Cihte
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        O_o : CrustaR
        • IAWTO_o : Clasifyd
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          Did i tell you about my baby vasectomy idea? See, basically, upon birth, we give babies (with penises) r : Cihte
          • See also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics : Clasifyd
          • This is genius a horrible idea. : mrvandelay
      • or, it promotes philanthropy, savings, and the creation of more jobs and wealth for others : EvilDolemite
      • What the fuck is this post? : mrvandelay
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        So, what you're saying is you make $29k/yr : action roommate
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          I make $0 / year and am living off of a liquidated 403b + student loans. : Cihte
          • Ok, so you have no compensation, but you think nobody else should make over some arbitrary limit? Than... : action roommate
      • Utah is the perfect place for you - it's where we keep all the other crazies, after all. : ArcKnight
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        lol what? must be nice living in an area where you can live off $30k/yr, it just wouldn't happen very ea... : Shadowdane
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          I assume he want's to regulate everything else as well. He thinks he knows what the fuck but he's really ... : mrvandelay
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            oh i know wtf believe you me : Cihte
            • Please to be sharing your credentials. : mrvandelay
            • Hahahahahahaha. : Ormsbee
            • I love this post hahaha : Blucklesworth
        • maybe with your lifestyle it isn't possible. But that just means your lifestyle needs to change. It's des... : Cihte
      • communist : gmd
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        What currency? If USD, you're saying everyone should be in the bottom third of households in the US> : walker270
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          houses are way too big too. they need to be shrunk, on average, 75% : Cihte
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            ... the average house size should be ~580 sq ft? : walker270
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              http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ab/Oglala_girl_in_front_of_a_tipi2.jpg : Cihte
              • Her house is the great outdoors, and extends as far as the eye can see. If anything, our houses need : walker270
              • You keep getting more awesome. : DarkWolf5
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            the best way to institute this kind of change in the world is to first be the change yourself so, what... : EvilDolemite
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              That's the exact opposite of the Democrat mindset. You're supposed to get the government to force the : walker270
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                Both parties are guilty of using the government to force their change down everyone elses throat, don't t... : MagicWishMonkey
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                  Republicans do it socially. Democrats do it financially. This is a financial discussion. : walker270
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                    The Republicans do it financially as well, don't kid yourself. Racking up a huge debt without figuring... : MagicWishMonkey
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                      What do you think is going to pay for the national healthcare bill being pushed by Dems in congress? B... : MisterPhoton
                      • I agree 100%, there's no such thing as a party of fiscal conservatism anymore, unfortunately. : MagicWishMonkey
              • Where'd you pull this strawman out of. : ieGod
      • no, greed promotes overconsumption. Financial success just makes it feasible. You really should try treat... : Megara9
      • olololololol : tometome
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        My dark shadow has arrived. : Marrbe
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          If you guys touched, would it be like anti-matter touching matter? Or would you just melt together like i... : ArcKnight
          • The world would probably collapse into a black hole of insanity. : thetangent
      • Shacknews. : arizona bay
      • You're right we should start getting rid of all this stuff. How about we start off by getting rid of our... : giant boy detective
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        you know what. you guys are A-OK in my book, man. peace. : Cihte
        • haha best quote ever : Megara9
        • Thanks for playing! : omnova
        • He may be a troll but at least he knows good sportsmanship. : Zek
      • oh. : Yanks
      • hahahaha I love this post! thanks for the laughs. :) : lefthighkick
      • LOLOLOLOL - I wish I could LOL this post more than once. : thetangent
      • You're a pretty good troll. : ieGod
      • lol, you're jealous : moshman
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    hahah no. Escpeially not the ones who actually no stuff. : pimpium
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      ...and can't spell! I kid, I kid--but your post demanded such a response :\ : the if
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        He desersve it unless he a non-American! : Ender.Wiggin
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          ... : Clasifyd
          • I hate posting here, it's the only site that my Firefox spellcheck doesn't work by default... : Ender.Wiggin
        • Nay! If so, this error makes him more American than ever before! : the if
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        oh the spelling nazis can diaf. i post in between work on another screen and i do not make it a point to ... : pimpium
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          Listen, you need to calm the fuck down so we can get back to talking about our 2-pack offer. This is ser... : Clasifyd
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            You shunned me and told me it was off the other day. So i have been pursuing other endeavors. : pimpium
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              God damn it... I was blinded by rage (I can't even remember why ATM)... I suppose I missed the boat... =... : Clasifyd
              • I'll remind you. It was about Wall-E. : pimpium
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    in the information age? quite the opposite. people need IT like they need mother fucking OIL : Downforce
    • Unfortunately, the market is flooded with morans that work for penuts and gaysex. : mrvandelay
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      This isn't the information age. It's the Loss of Information Age. More than 3200 of the current 6500 spo... : Cihte
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        ...Marrbe? : Clasifyd
        • lol : Ormsbee
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        Wow, look at you go, parroting something some anthropologist said. Bravo. : action roommate
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          that's all me baby. don't be jealous of my insight. : Cihte
          • Here, I think you need this: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/insight : Clasifyd
          • well, not all me; i did recently read an article about a specific language that is disappearing. But stil... : Cihte
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            K. Sure. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinct_language#Implications_of_language_extinction Estimat : action roommate
            • neat. he agrees with me. : Cihte
      • yeah but will I still be able to read Shacknews in the nursing home? "Dudes I'm getting sponge bathed : pukerat
      • Disappear in their EXACT current form? Ok, maybe. But they will still be around influencing other langu... : twifosp
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  i would if it was in dallas! speaking of which, is there a state website that lists all the state jobs ? ... : ninjase
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    you have to go to each university's website individually. there will be a link for careers. : kbnerd
    • not for universities, but for state agencies : ninjase
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    solution move out of dallas : EvilDolemite
    • That is not a solution. : ninjase
    • I'd sooner give up eating meat : dognose
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    http://usajobs.gov/ : Shadowdane
    • thats federal, im wondering about state : ninjase

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• FG: leading expert in 5yo feel : boring gegtik
• Wow. Talented kid. : master_disaster_17
• I bet he learned that from Rock Band : MrLobo
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  I can't even do Rock Band drums on medium yet fuck : Bamtan
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    real drums are way easier imo : ass-street
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      how so? you have to account for volume and touch on drums plus there's a hi-hat pedal : EvilDolemite
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        with a souped up tempo : Degenerate
        • I'm on a roll and it's time to go solo : kbnerd
      • rock band is not 1:1 with what is happening in the music (at least not on medium). i find the real drums... : ass-street
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      I've been a drummer for 12 years and find that drumming in Rock Band is more difficult. But then again, ... : hussdelrio
      • i feel the same way. : ass-street
    • oh shut up, you know fuck all. like garvin but much, much worse : moshman
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    hard or expert drums are easier most of the time : alnya
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      yeah lower difficulty modes are really counter-intuitive when you want to drum to the beat you hear. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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        yup Hard or Expert is the only modes I'll play for Drums... I'd love to do Expert on everything, but ... : Shadowdane
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          the only thing that screws me up is the bass pedal. it's hard for me to get a feel of on the guitar hero ... : kbnerd
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            i tried the GH set at a friends house... god it sucks! : Shadowdane
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              this is total lies. do you at least use the cymbal kits on your RB drums? : radarman
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                i keep meaning to buy them, but haven't yet. I dunno maybe the cymbals on his set were busted, but the... : Shadowdane
                • if he didn't get the free tuner for the drums then i'd imagine they are pretty fucked up. i've seen sets... : radarman
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              I love it how the kick pedal is not attached to anything, so it slowly moves forward as you're playing. I... : thecray
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                i'd rather have it slide around a little than have it flat out break like the RB ones... i have wood f... : radarman
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                  i did a bath mat underneath the feet of the ion kit and that seemed to work well enough. bath mats DO NOT... : xsoulbrothax
                  • hahahahaa : tometome
                • same here. problem solved for $25: exercise equipment mat. the rubbery material, not the cloth yoga mat. : vitaminzach
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  Still my favourite cover of that song - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMKmQmkJ9gg : eonix
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    Wow, that is awesome. : Fred Garvin
    • I love the distorted violin sound they got. : Fred Garvin
  • The drummers name is Meytal? lol. : aggressor
  • That gets a +1 as well. : Madwacker
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    My favorite electric violin artist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFv_5vmUGqs : ArcKnight
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      I already know who this is going to be. Ed Alleyne-Johnson or whatever? :D : xsoulbrothax
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        Nope. Alex Mitchell. : ArcKnight
        • I'm glad to be wrong at a time like this. I'll be listening as soon as I'm back at my desk, thanks! : xsoulbrothax
  • I did not even realize that electric violin existed. I am in awe. I am awed. Awwwwww yeah. : Ebu
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    Christine Wu is my new favorite person : OverloadUT
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      God I want to learn to play the violin so bad :( : OverloadUT
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        I could picture you standing in union square with a jaunty hat playing a violin! : xsoulbrothax
        • I already have the "starving musician" body type down : OverloadUT
  • my favorite cover http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fr36tYlUTqo&fmt=18&annotation_id=annotation_705564&featu... : Lawgiver
• I see they got him a new kit. cool : jonin
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  Just watched him do Harvester of Sorrow. I would not be sad to see Lars replaced by Jonah. : Omning
  • When he uses the double pedal his entire body shakes : Omning
  • Childs play. Let's see him do Dyer's Eve : riptyde
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  not really : Mansmells
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    He doesn't have the skill that comes from experience, but the kid is five and locks in pretty tight for s... : Fred Garvin
    • completely agreed : Nitrium
    • Sure. That's not what you said though. : Mansmells
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    He just rocked harder in 4 minutes than most people do their entire lives. : silent prophet
    • Fuck yeah. This kid is going to be awesome when he grows up if he sticks with it. : Ormsbee
    • That wouldn't be hard considering most people don't play drums at all! : Mansmells
  • Seriously. I am totally better than that 5 year old. : Nali4Freedom
  • This reminds me of Louis CK talking about how he could kick his daughter's ass. : owly
  • Looks like someone is jealous of a 5 year old : Drewus
• he is a natural, awesome stuff : ghost hacker
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  One day, this kid will cheat on his Swedish bikini model wife. : Saman
  • She'll chase after him with drum sticks and he crashes his car? : jonin
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  he probably sleeps with a metronome in his bed. : edgewise
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    No just a Bad Uncle. : Rauol Duke
    • Better than a Willem DaFoe. : AxeMan808
    • oh Uncle Rauol : Lawgiver
• I like this one better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CKf0vmPC9s&feature=channel : timmie
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  Nice. That cannot be an easy one to do given all the crazy... is it rhythms? I dunno, SOAD are all over t... : node
  • Off beats, poly-rhythms, bizarre time signatures are all things good drummers eat up and poor drummers fa... : Fred Garvin
• lol the kid plays rush too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBm2jY7yrSM : aurealis
• Fuck me that was amazing. Especially towards the end when it gets crazy. : Madwacker
• This chick rocks the fuck out to Judith by A Perfect Circle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Acw_MdCERs... : grendel
• Tony Royster Jr, with some of the sickest drum fills I've ever heard: Age 12, Drum Festival drum solo ... : grendel
• Wow, I wonder what he'll do when he's older. That was a really good cover. : OmegaRed59

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  Welcom to hard game club. Many will enter, few will leave victorious. : jingletard
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    jingle, did you play Darksiders on apocalyptic? : Clasifyd
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      I started this on Sunday, on the same mode, for my first play through. I've died 20 times so far in abou... : breadsticks
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        I'm wondering if it qualifies for HGC. It's difficult, but not impossible. : Clasifyd
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          I don't think so. Mini-boss fights are harder than the actual boss fights so far. : breadsticks
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            Tiamat was pretty difficult, but Griever and Stygian were pretty easy. But yeah, the first Trauma fight ... : Clasifyd
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              I've lost count of deaths to mini-bosses. I've one shot Tiamat and Griever thus far. On my way to Stygi... : breadsticks
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                I think I just kept trying to rush Tiamat... if I would have sit back and watched, I could have got it fa... : Clasifyd
                • It seems to get progressively easier as the game goes along. The legendary item that gives you moredmg + ... : Klebold
    • I tried it and got my ass handed to me so I toned it down. : jingletard
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      It really hasn't been that bad so far. I just started going through the Ashlands tho so I'm sure it may ... : mwasher
      • I think you're about half way, judging from the progression of the storyline. Ashlands was really long a... : Clasifyd
    • i started it on apocalyptic but after coming from bayonetta, the combat system just wasn't up to par with... : Herman Toothrot
  • Welcome?! I've been here the whole time! : Omaha
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    It's getting to the point where Im not playing it every spare hour I have. I really am getting tired of i... : steve_o
    • There's no harm in taking a break. Even when I was thoroughly addicted, I would only play 3-4 nights a w... : walker270
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    jingletard, Omaha is vice president of HARD GAME CLUB. : CrustaR
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      so who's president? : skelom
      • You're lookin' at him, though Omaha has registered the web site! : CrustaR
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  I wish you luck, I also started playing this game. I picked a barbarian and I have been crushing people l... : DM7
  • you just wait ;) : steve_o
  • lol..."I haven't made it past the tutorial yet.." MWAHAHAHAHAHA *ahem* have fun! : byorn
  • oh, you will...just wait 'till you get a little further =) : DscytheX
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    all offensive melee? lol oh boy this will be good : Downforce
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      If I find a bow in my travels, my barbarian wouldn't have any qualms about using it to soften up enemies ... : DM7
      • You can't play this game like that. : Ebu
    • That's how I got through the first time. None of this cheap shot magic missile business. Saying that, tho... : -JLN-
  • I'm sure you'll cruise right through without a single death. : silent prophet
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    Isn't the tutorial about 5 minutes long? : Begawkiness
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      I had to go to work so I only created my character and played a little of it, I go to the glowy fog wall ... : DM7
      • haha... you're so fucked. : walker270
  • I kicked the shit out of that character creator. : omnova
• The funny thing is my copy was used, and the BD case is cracked on the bottom... as if someone had throw... : Omaha
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  yesterday was the 1st day since i bought it i didn't play it :( stupid girl was watching tv : wtf242
  • WHY DONT YOU MAN UP SHANE : gmd
• I am still too scurred to buy it : gmd
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  I am getting somewhat close to the end now I think at about 35 hours in or so (level ...78 I think?), and... : Begawkiness
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    You've probably outlevel NG at this point. I think the difficulty tapers off a lot after around lvl 60 (... : walker270
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      I didn't even really grind much, at one point I got my sights on the Lava Bow and ran around gathering th... : Begawkiness
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        Also Tower Knight caused me so much trouble that I thought the rest of the game was going to be like that... : Begawkiness
        • Yep. All of the *-1 bosses are easier than the *-2. Going into 1-2 right after 1-1 is probably a mistak... : walker270
  • New Game + ! : mwasher
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    lol i farmed a fuckload and i'm still not sure if i am badass or not. i still have all of worlds 4 and 5... : dopeman
    • You are never a badass in Demon's Souls. A higher soul level gives you more access to weapons, armor, : walker270
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  If you stick with it, it's because you have a big gamer cock. Just ask around Shacknews, they'll tell yo... : virus
  • I played Ninja Gaiden for a month and a half straight and I was hard every time. : Omaha
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  I've promised myself a PS3 once I get done with Darksiders and Bayonetta. It is time. I need a good d... : mwasher
  • why did I capitalize Window? fucking microsoft. : mwasher
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    <3 Bayonetta <3 The game seriously needs more love. Easily the best action third person game of this ... : walker270
    • yes it is swell. : mwasher
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      Most awesome game ever. I came to that conclusion pretty much based on the epilogue alone, and the last b... : -JLN-
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        I've still got a ways to go, only just got into chapter 5. I keep going back to earlier chapters for pra... : mwasher
        • Oh man, if you're liking the ridiculousness of it all you're in for a treat. I kept thinking it was going... : -JLN-
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          I've been playing through each mission twice. The first time on my own, discovering shit as I go. The s... : walker270
          • I've missed loads on my first play through. Must have missed a shed load of the gold lp's, as I only ende... : -JLN-
• If you play as a ranged class (Ranger or a Caster) this game is incredibly easy. I played through as a R... : H@rvester
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  Ok several hours later and this game is awesome. I've died four times so far--once on the tutorial when : Omaha
  • If you ran into a knight with a shield and spear with red eyes you are going the wrong way. Come back lat... : H@rvester
  • Run faster and they lose interest. Also, stay away from the red knight. That guy will fuck you hard early... : conandan
  • You are supposed to die at the end of the turorial. Blue eyes is beatable. Stay away from red eyes for n... : capt tripps
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    Every time you die in your body on a stage, the stage actually gets harder. So, people will leap off a l... : DianeOfTheMoon
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      So they die in the Nexus to get into Soul Form before entering a level? That's not a problem for me si... : Omaha
      • exactly! if you kill a demon your body will revive and you will no longer be in soul form when you re-en... : dopeman
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    Ok I was going to go the other way on my next try anyway. I wish there was a way to bank my souls. Shou... : Omaha
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      Yep, its just a packet of souls. There are similarly named items, like "lost hero souls", etc. that just... : yAak
      • But if you can get back to your body, you could get them back right? This probably isn't Diablo in the re... : DM7
  • Parrying is rough business, put that off until later, consider it an "Advanced Tactic" and you should wor... : yAak
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    It's tough but fair, and I like that. Do items get rarer? I like that there seems to be plenty of (al... : Omaha
    • there will be certain worlds that produce a bunch of certain items. you'll find out what items are rare ... : dopeman
  • haha that red knight is just flat out evil. EVERYONE ends up getting 1-shotted by him. : wtf242
  • If you're going for the melee I wouldn't make too big a thing about parrying. It's useful for some enemie... : -JLN-
• Do most people actually complete this game? Is it possible to complete the game and not actually be any g... : Klebold

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  I'm curious how the economy has been 'improved' when there was no economy at all in the first game. : ArcKnight
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    That's an improvement, no? : pancake humper
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      No. If a car has no radio and someone adds one, they didn't 'improve' the radio. They added one. : ArcKnight
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        But the car has also been improved : pancake humper
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          Well, in your method of thinking the game was improved, not the games economy. : Clasifyd
          • Also, I've never played it... I'm just going off what you gentlemen are saying. : Clasifyd
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          Sweet, I like cars! : nodebug
          • Dude, where's my car? : nudel
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    http://assassinscreed.wikia.com/wiki/Economy : warcrow
    • ??? I've played and beat both Assassin's Creeds. I'm aware there's money and shops in the second game. I'... : ArcKnight
    • oops, wrong link. : warcrow
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      Economy is a new gameplay mechanics added to Assassin's Creed II, and it's a major part of the game. ... : pancake humper
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        This is true. Changed! : warcrow
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          I added this: "Though the game now has an economy, I feel that it's unfortunately broken." Thanks f... : warcrow
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            Man, its been a long time since I've played AC1 but I really thought recalling purchasing throwing knifes... : warcrow
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              Nope, you stole them from certain people in the crowd. : ArcKnight
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                Thats a one way economy : nodebug
                • It's an economy though, right? :) : warcrow
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            I think healing costs should have scaled with the cities, and how much life bar you have. The costs of st... : pancake humper
            • also, if you have fully upgraded brotherl/barracks and such in the Villa, hiring people in the cities sho... : pancake humper
• Eh, it's not a great economy, but it is fun. I didn't run out of stuff to buy until I was basically done,... : lplasmatron
• I haven't played AC2 yet but it sounds like that stuff is there just to give the side-missions a purpose ... : nudel
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  So basically if you do lots of side missions all the time, money isn't an issue. That's not particularly... : Arcanum
  • Yeah, I hardly did any side missions and didn't have close to everything bought until after I had gotten : ArcKnight
  • Side missions? Don't even bother. You get so much gold by leveling up your city you won't have any idea w... : pancake humper
  • This was my thought too. If I'm going to do all the side missions I run into, the game should give me a ... : DinK
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    Not even. Dump all of your money into leveling your city, and money won't be an issue after a few hours ... : walker270
    • Pretty much this - i never ran out of money, could afford everything. It felt like the devs have playe... : alnya
    • The city's monetary generation rate was pretty insane. : warcrow
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  Also, I don't know how many are reading through it but I also wanted to discuss (roughly mid-game spoiler : warcrow
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    i'm just glad they added it in the first place. they did plenty with it. : dirge23
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      Hrm, I didn't really get much out of it. Did it really contribute to your enjoyment of the game? To me it... : warcrow
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        my problem with the city was having to TRAVEL to it to collect money, gah. Just put it in a direct deposi... : Silent Wolf
        • Just use a fast travel station before it fills up, and en route to your next mission. Those things are... : walker270
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          yeah, they could have put banks in every city just like there are tailors, blacksmiths, art shops, etc in... : kek
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            Which is king of why I thought the political thing I mentioned might be interesting (but it would have to... : warcrow
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              yeah there was an opportunity to have some side missions and the developers didn't take them. I'm not re... : kek
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                Did you actually use the gallery? : warcrow
                • i did... for fun mostly : skelom
            • i thought the hookers were nice to look at : skelom
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          Yeah, where were the damn ATMs in Venice?! (seriously, yes, there was no reason to have to travel ther... : Masem
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            Except that treasure chests don't have wheels or legs to follow you. : pancake humper
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              Assassin's Creed III will take place on Diskworld. : Masem
              • Assassins Creed IX will take place in city 17. : warcrow
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            We're talking about a 2-3 minute trip every 80 or 100 minutes. Plus the venders were cheaper in your own... : walker270
            • signing this. people are REALLY reaching at this point, jaded gamers rearing their ugly heads. in fact... : Downforce
          • This sounds good! :) : warcrow
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            the reason you have to go and get it is so you can't just leave your xbox on overnight and end up with en... : dirge23
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              I don't think anyone minded the cap, it was that you had to manually travel to a spot in your city and th... : kek
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                yeah the banks in other cities makes perfect sense... seems odd that they only introduced that concept to... : skelom
                • Pretty sure they were something that got cut due to time constraints. : ArcKnight
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        I had fun buying stuff for it and getting treasures. I think you're overthinking things a tad... AC2 was ... : thebigbeefsandwich
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          You're right, it was--but I still think Monteriggioni was a missed opportunity. When I saw a barracks op... : warcrow
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            Well until, you know, I found out it did nothing of the sort. : warcrow
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              is this another "really disappointed" moment? it's getting silly at this point. if we are playing the 'MY... : Downforce
              • seriously. it's not an RPG. it's an action/adventure game with a few RPGish elements, but they're pretty ... : dirge23
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                Glorious? Really? : warcrow
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                  i'd say great, but probably not glorious, and definitely not GLORIOUS : xsoulbrothax
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                    But...but...MY IMAGINATION WAS NOT MANIFESTED IN THE GAME!!!!! : warcrow
                    • if it were my imagination we're talking about, i'd probably say it was for the best >:D : xsoulbrothax
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            I was expecting the same thing when I upgraded the structures. It would have been nice to come back to t... : AltZero
            • AltZero you're being ridiculous--stop it! :) : warcrow
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            It's already a pretty massive game, I'm not sure that it needed more content. : WhatIsThisFor
            • yeah, i feel like this complaint boils down to "i want more of this awesome game!!" : dirge23
      • Definitely. It reminded me of the sorts of things you could do in Fable 2 or even GTA4. I love being ab... : WhatIsThisFor
  • Maybe you're mistaking AC2 for GTA4 - I'm glad I don't have to engage in asinine bullshit like my sister' : ThrillKill
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  The economy was exciting for ~3 hours, when I didn't have much money and was working on the Villa. P... : yAak
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    i think i enjoyed it simply because it was one more way to progress that was under my control. it didn't ... : xsoulbrothax
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      Was there even an acheivement for unlocking/upgrading everything in your city? : warcrow
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        1 achievement for 1 upgrade, and another one for reaching 80% completion of the villa : skelom
        • yeah, it wasn't so much actual achievements as it was just accomplishing things, even if they're meaningl... : xsoulbrothax
  • The DMC/NG/Bayonetta style games have economy right, IMO. You cannot afford everything through one run... : walker270
• I'm close to 100% achievements. The only one that requires any work left for me is getting the last 30 or... : Sailor of Fortune
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  so what? the game is fun. if it was a cash grind people would bitch even louder. jesus fuck. : Downforce
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    The game is definitelty a lot of fun, but I would like to discuss its shortcomings on, you know, a gaming... : warcrow
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      For a game that gave you all of the money you could possibly spend three times over, I don't think a 3-5 ... : walker270
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        There's more to it than the economy. I don't think Ezio handles all that well either. Again, the game is... : warcrow
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          TBH, I'm not a huge fan of how the game controls. I'd much rather have more control over a character wit... : walker270
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            I think you might be mistaking me for someone else? I never mentioned that in my blog post. : warcrow
            • There's a lead-in sentence my post is likely missing. I detailed one of my gripes about the game as a wa... : walker270
          • I don't mind the freerunning when it works but you're totally dependent on their algorithms to figure out... : Zek
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      well let me know when there's a real shortcoming :D gotta be careful what you wish for as well... those ... : Downforce
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        There is more--I'll repost this since I don't feel like retyping all of it: I don’t recall the la : warcrow
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          The random-jumping can be solved by laying off of the A button. The A button seems to be something you h : walker270
          • yep. people fucking up free running is just a rite of passage and the "L2P" moment of the game. it's not : Downforce
          • Perhaps that might be contributing to the issue?I feel like I put 25 hours into the game and know it pret... : warcrow
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            I figured out the A button bit pretty quick, and being careful with its use makes it a lot better. It st... : yAak
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              The other big thing I learned pretty quickly was not to force anything. If your character is hesitant to... : walker270
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                Weird, I tried pushing the stick at slightly different angles and found that doing the move-away > return... : yAak
                • It was never slightly. A lot of times I had to move it 45-90 degrees off the main direction I wanted to ... : walker270
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            yeah, i suspect a lot of people use 'A' as if it's just the normal way to run, so Ezio is perfectly willi... : xsoulbrothax
            • I had to learn the same thing - probably wouldn't have been a problem at all if it weren't for pressing A... : Zek
  • Nobody said the game wasn't fun, and i don't think he suggested a cash grind would be a good idea either.... : yAak
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  I can't think of any game besides Dragon Age where the economy was in such that it was difficult to buy w... : WhatIsThisFor
  • I might have bought two items in Mass Effect. There was so much equipment and cash handed to you in that... : Haku-Jin
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  The economy is only that broken if you do the optional stuff, I played right through the game and could a... : Zek
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    "The economy is only that broken if you do the optional stuff" How is this ok? : warcrow
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      because the vast majority of players are not going to do the optional stuff. : ThrillKill
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        If that's Ubisoft reason then I dont think it's a very good one. Though it may not sound like it (I d... : warcrow
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          It's not their reason, it was simply suggested. It's normal for a game to be balanced (as far as the eco... : WhatIsThisFor
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            I get that totally, but that doesn't mean its not a fault and that we cant discuss it. : warcrow
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              It's open to discussion, but I think you're reaching if you're going to call it a "fault". I think the m : ThrillKill
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                Thats true, and I am in the minority, but I enjoy having intelligent convos with you guys and about video... : warcrow
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                  Just try not to confuse the statement "There is a problem with xyz" with "I have a problem with xyz". : ThrillKill
                  • Its subjective and either statement is correct though. : warcrow
  • How do you define optional? The first thing I did after the villa was introduced was throw money at it... : walker270
• hahaha a friend of mine lost his cool last night because he was stuck in this game : Megara9
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  Well, it's true. I ended the game 100% (every achievement too) and had over 400K in money. It was ridicu... : K1Bond007
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    I built up everything in the villa, and beat the game but I still didn't have enough money to buy every w... : pyide
    • I also wasted a lot of scratch trying out the different colored outfits. I'm glad money was abundant enou... : pyide
    • I don't care. The extent that I thought about it was the issue with the doctor which I thought was pointl... : K1Bond007
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  I personally found it really strange that they teach you to steal, in order to survive on the street, the... : Finestaut
  • I agree with this so much. That, and the fact that when you started to fight even when people gathered no... : conandan
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  I loved the game, but there was a lot that was broken with it. The economy was one. On the whole the repl... : Loxodrome
  • I like this post a lot, & for several reasons. :) : warcrow

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  I have the LN40A530 and I use it as a monitor and TV. Pretty good screen for the price. Have a problem wi... : Crabs Jarrard
  • I have an LN46A550 I bought about a year and a half ago and it was awesome then, but now there is a lot b... : mwasher
• i have a panasonic s1 42" plasma television set : EvilDolemite
• Go plasma for HDTVs. Pioneer and Panasonic are the best. Panny S1 and G10 are some of the most popular. ... : ventro
• I have a Samsung 40" LCD. It's really nice. I don't remember the model number, but it's 1080p and less th... : edgewise
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  Get a plasma: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_ss_4_16?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=panasonic+plas... : Serpico74
  • Also, I would advise going with a larger display if you can swing the space. A 50" doesn't cost much more... : Serpico74
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    Thank you for the info everyone! I will be sitting about 4-5 feet away from the TV. I feel that 42" is ... : mourningstar
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      Shit, that G10 looks to be the one. : mourningstar
      • The 46" G10 is just under $1100. I'd be looking at that as well. : Serpico74
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      Plasma has lower input lag than LCD so they're actually better for gaming. Things like burn-in hasn't bee... : Serpico74
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        Sold! Thank you for all of your help. You made this really easy. Wife will be pleased and that means l... : mourningstar
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          No problem : Serpico74
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            Serp, champion for all things PLASMA! : Crabs Jarrard
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              Plasmas and Swiffers are two products I can 100% support : Serpico74
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                Too bad they suck power like crazy (plasma, not swiffers!) : rasputinreborn
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                  Another misconception. Depending on what you watch, newer plasmas can actually use less power. : aggressor
                  • That or go into the low power mode, that's what I do with my Kuro. Its only slightly dimmer than the out-... : Serpico74
                  • Not a misconception at all. There may be some units that are exceptions to the rule however; I will conc... : rasputinreborn
                • Worth it : Serpico74
      • I can back up Plasmas being fine for gaming. I started playing Borderlands when my TV was only about a w... : DinK
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      Is that actually how far your eyes will be from the screen? If so then I'm glad to see a first time HDTV... : DinK
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        I'm trying to just guesstimate in my head. We're not in this new place yet (will be at the end of May) a... : mourningstar
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          Get a measuring tape, this is how I figured it out. Hell, wait a few days after you've moved in so you ca... : Serpico74
          • I can get over there in the next few days and measure everything out to be sure. It's not going to be wa... : mourningstar
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    My LCD doesn't look like ass. : Anastomosis
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      I have yet to see an LCD that looks comparable to or better than a plasma. There are inherent flaws to th... : Serpico74
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        Have you seen this one yet? http://reviews.cnet.com/flat-panel-tvs/samsung-un55b8500/4505-6482_7-33740174... : cltcprd
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          Not yet in person, but I've read the review before. Poor viewing angles, "highly saturated color", and "r : Serpico74
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            Also, $4000 for an LCD display that won't be better than a Panasonic G10 Plasma that is around $1000, yea : Serpico74
            • Profit margins! : Crabs Jarrard
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        The LG LH90 series is certainly comparable to most plasmas right now. Blacks are supposedly just shy of V... : Head Rush
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          But then you compare the prices of the two... : aggressor
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            And the LG won for me.. I got a 55" LH90 with a free LG 390 BluRay player for $1800. The comparable plasm... : Head Rush
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              It completes with the V10? That seems suspect. : aggressor
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                Try impossible : Serpico74
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                  Should I LOL this? : Head Rush
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                    Seriously, you've got the V, then you're talking Kuro which are hard to find since Pioneer stopped produc... : Serpico74
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                      Kuro is still ahead of the V, which has some subtle differences over the G series (supposedly deeper blac... : Head Rush
                      • Cool writeup, thanks for taking the time and the info. LCDs will continue to get better, and for peopl... : Serpico74
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                It's not suspect at all. Check out the reviews, prices and features - the LG 40 series would be in line w... : Head Rush
                • We agree to disagree. I feel that they are overpriced and have inferior color and black reproduction (and... : Serpico74
        • Seen it. Again, I don't see the point paying the same amount or more for an inferior picture. Why pay ove... : Serpico74
• Not that model, but I've had a Samsung LNT5271F for a little over 2 years now. It's been an outstanding ... : Colleton

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  You grabbing the torrent, the fileshack or the fileplanet version? : LoioshDwaggie
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    havent done the shack yet but that's the wait time on fileplanet before it even downloads (non subscriber... : cptstern
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      Try the torrent, you'll probably have it done in twenty minutes. : Vimn
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        Also http://installers.crypticstudios.com/torrents/Star%20Trek%20ST.0.20100108a.0.torrent : Vimn
        • Thanks for posting the link. : Merconium
        • that torrent is slow as fuck for me. : MurrayTheSkull
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          Use this I am maxing out my connection at 2.2MB/s : OverloadUT
          • i'm averaging 23 kBps : RikiTiki2
          • I'm getting like 17k from there. STOP HOGGIN' ALL THE DOWNLOADS. : Rauol Duke
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            I'm at like 42k/s on there :( The downloader from cryptic doesn't fucking do anything at all. : retardhumper
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              The downloader works fine for me. Run it as admin, open up your firewall for it. : WhatIsThisFor
              • done that, same result : retardhumper
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            I'M GIVIN' HER ALL SHE'S GOT! : BlackCat9
            • You need to jettison and detonate the warp cores! : one random winner
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    I cant find it on fileshack : cptstern
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      Pretty sure it isn't there. >:( : Rauol Duke
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        http://www.fileshack.com/file.x/16562/Star+Trek+Online+Open+Beta+Client : MisterPhoton
        • thinking of using this instead of the torrent, if the non-lightning bolt speed is decent enough : RikiTiki2
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  i'm at the end of the line and it says 74 minutes for me : RikiTiki2
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    mine said 15 minutes when I first started :( : cptstern
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      wtf now it says 48 mins!! that's much better than 549 mins : cptstern
      • fileplanet crapped out on me : RikiTiki2
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  Someone should mirror the file for Shackers. I'd be happy to on my server if I could get the file in the ... : OverloadUT
  • I just started the torrent and it really makes me happy that the programmer of this client actually took ... : OverloadUT
• Torrent took me 8 hours to grab : Sailor of Fortune
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  At the bottom of the STO beta page there's a link to the cryptic installer. It's bone-ass slow, though.... : cerealSAM2
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    it never does anything for me. It creates a directory and then does nothing and after about 5-10 minutes... : retardhumper
    • I'm at 4.24%, 20kb/s DL - wooooo! : cerealSAM2
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  I'm using this mirror and it's not bad. http://games.on.net/filelist.php?app=3365&menu=16 : Link.
  • sweet! Thanks for this, MUCH faster than other shit I've tried : retardhumper
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    The file name says its from 12-28-2009. The torrent download says 01-08-2010. Will this patch to the curr... : EricZBA
    • Yes. : Link.
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  1-2 days wasted out of a 2 week trial just waiting or downloading. why dont mmo devs prepare for this in ... : cptstern
  • their response would be this isn't a trial, it is a beta. : mwasher
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    They did the devs pointed out on the forums yesterday how to be ready for today. : hashd
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      lol "hit f5 till your finger bleeds" : cptstern
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        ???? 0_o : hashd
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          what? they said more than that? "wear underpants" : cptstern
          • No they directed people on which version and where they could download the OB client yesterday. : hashd
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            Yup, the torrent was posted yesterday. By me even and in the shackfleet group. The steam download is also... : LoioshDwaggie
            • The steam version was downloading at 2MB/s for me last night. : DianeOfTheMoon
• Don't be in such a hurry, after all you have another 500 megs of patches waiting for you. : disdain
• Is there gonna be a queue to log into the server? : Edges
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  I really like what I've seen so far. Ground combat is actually pretty cool, even though it doesn't look ... : herradura99
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    I get disconnected every 5 minutes so haven't gotten to play much sadly : jbury
    • You made it 5 minutes? : Reptile
• Can't wait to get home to start the download so i might be able to play tomorrow night. :( : pimpium
• I actually found the installer on usenet. Its about 7.5g total size. It installed fine : onji
• I got the torrent and have it installed, didn't take too long. Too bad the game isn't very good. : boarder2
• Trust me, no hurry. The server are imploding every few minutes so you can't get much game time done. Gam... : tboomer2

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  Horny White Man? Homo White Male? Home While Masturbating? Hot Wife Murderer? : nudel
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    Hot Wet McFly : kek
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      so close : Slowtreme
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        It's not Hot Wet Maarten is it? : MercFox1
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          why yes it is : Slowtreme
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            Who is this Maarten? Does he post here? : Flinz
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              He's gone off to start his gay porn career. Power bottoms are in demand. : tboomer2
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                Is he with Steve then? : Flinz
                • They do unicorn cosplay now. : Mad Brahmin Disease
            • He wears Wooden Shoes and loves Pop Tarts!!! : Vorlonesque
• ok : Rehevkor
• Que? : hoov1185
• We have a website of cock. : deject
• You know where to send him, HPB. : MercFox1
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  I don't get it. : The Future
  • Me neither. I'll just laugh so I fit in. : Snipergen
• [YLTC] FTW! : Vincenoir
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  All these noobs :( : moshman
  • Seriously. Some of them are longtime shackers, too. : zohar79
  • Hey I'm just happy I know what LSL is. : MercFox1
  • Goddamned kids. : Phil
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    i think we need a new moniker that combines noob and homo or fag, i mean it is a new decade right? nom... : multisync
    • fnewg : Rauol Duke
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      degenerate? : Fyunch Click
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        >:( : Degenerate
        • pwned! : MercFox1
        • 0wned!!! : CrustaR
        • tell your mom grats for leading the gridiron challenge this week : Merconium
    • foobo : moshman
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      reuse an old favorite: hobo : Patch-e
      • Bender: "Oh, I thought you called me a Romo" : Sailor of Fortune
    • All these multisyncs :( : Halen
    • [HWM] : pancake humper
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      Back before the comments system existed and Shugashack only had a messageboard, "hoom" was the popular in... : fishbone
      • I cannot even comprehend events that happened that long ago. : Rotten Deadite
      • I remember the old Q3 msgboard...I wish all the old threads discussions could be found somewhere from the... : Vorlonesque
    • Can we through in hobo? Then let's call it hoobo. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • so very sad : maulla
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  Bunch of god damn lurkers in this thread. : SockMonkeh
  • haha : Techy007
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    I'm not a lurker and I have no idea what it means :( : foo
    • too noob : moshman
    • something about warmth, water, and goldstein : dpgagnon
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      Seems like something that would be in the wiki. That needs to get linked more often for people. : Duffman8369
      • No, we don't want people to know all our secrets that easily. Some knowledge must be earned : MisterPhoton
    • I pity the : Marrbe
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  Is this something like nerds making fun of other nerds for not getting some nerdly inside joke? : ezanga
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    HWM is a shack staple : Lawgiver
    • Well that explains everything. 0_o : ezanga
    • I've used that since BF2 since [Shack] wont fit in the prefix. : Wolfanoz
    • So, yes then. : oO SilentK Oo
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    not, it's pure shack culture. Not knowing it is offensive : moshman
    • I just think its funnah when nerds make fun of other nerds for being nerds. did I mention the word nerds : ezanga
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      Here I am being offensive to you then. : cerealSAM2
      • Not offensive to me, offensive to the shack gods : moshman
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    You registered in 2001, you should definitely know what HWM is. : Chod
    • I registered in 99 and I don't know what HWM is. But then it might be dementia. : Cruciform
• I don't get teh funnay : mrtony
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  How is this story funny? How would someone know that [HWM] is a meme from a very specific website that di... : pancake humper
  • especially when the members of the very specific website don't seem to know what the meme is : mrtony
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    It's funny because how do you explain to someone in real life what the fuck it means, and then once you d... : sigpro
    • I don't know how people that know what it stands for are missing this. It's not a nerd one-upping or anyt... : SockMonkeh
  • he wouldn't know, of course not. but it's still weird to explain : moshman
  • The lol has nothing to do with the other person? : ieGod
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    damn i would have sworn you've been about longer than me. but apparently post # isn't everything. i'm a b : Flinz
    • I have been :) : pancake humper
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  http://shackwiki.com/wiki/Acronyms#HWM : unholydonuts
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    Oh I remember that now : mrtony
    • btw when do Steve and Maarten get back from vacation? : mrtony
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  fuck you guys. clan POP-TARTS will reign supreme !!!!!!!! : Downforce
  • I love that someone else remembers his pop-tarts love (he always stocked up on those motherfuckers whenev... : Vorlonesque
• [2018] : rgoer
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  Ya know, he is still on the right track. Though, Shack is much more than a clan... : ElArabDeMagnifico
  • that went right over your head : moshman
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  Hahaha I get that too sometimes. Clan HWM 4 life. : tomservo
  • I never thought of putting it in a clan tag...now I feel like I've wasted years of my life not doing that... : Vorlonesque
• Homo Wigger Munchers? : araczynski
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  Rape him with a lamp after you fill it with sand, amirite my friend? : Vorlonesque
  • Is it wrong that I got HWM but thought RL was Rocket Launcher I loves me some Maarten Goldstein...he's a : Vorlonesque

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  Windows, right? Yeah, it's terrible in Windows. Since most of what it does is built in to the OS on OSX... : foo
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    You mean how the itunes download is over 100MB? How the updater tried to get people to install Safari? Ho... : Robotic Puppy Eater
    • Probably my biggest complaint was when it would install additional software like Safari as the default ac... : dmason
  • The bloat comes from all the iTunes store bullshit they added into it. I just want it to play music. : chrisschutz
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    Windows iTunes' problems are piss poor design and the fact it's written by people who don't know or care ... : nudel
    • It doesn't do shit for things like a real progress bar in OSX though, it's not that much better over here... : pres589
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  Apple error messages are always so bad. My gf couldn't connect to her wireless network at home from he... : thecray
  • Zune ftw : Thornfist
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    I love their changelogs: * Bug fixes I'm always compelled to spend ages waiting for firmware update... : nudel
    • Yeah, that's also bullshit. : pres589
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    Everyone's been guilty of unhelpful error messages at one time or another, but really, it's hard to get b... : eldersveld
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      My CS professor showed me this one: http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=besterrorPNG_607g0apano51aesg... : OmegaRed59
      • Hahah. : WhatIsThisFor
      • awesome. : Arctic Fox
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        I had one that was completely blank then exited the program (the linux mail client evolution for those wh... : itsjames
        • Evolution is a tough one.. there's so many old versions installed out there that it gets a bad rap. It's ... : dafugg
      • Those "no error" error messages are almost always because some clean-up code overwrite the error status w... : nudel
      • there was no error! you were just imagining things! : Postal
      • THIS IS NOT THE ERROR YOU ARE LOOKING FOR 'd : steelsamurai
    • Not really an error, more of a warning, but still a classic: http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/am... : dfay
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  Did you try searching for "contacts" through the Start Menu command line? : Lone Swordsman
  • Far too late now. :( : Robotic Puppy Eater
• I agree with you. JESUS FUCK!!!! Why can't I find a good guide on how to move my itunes (ALL OF IT, not ... : treefingers1
• But...it's shiny. Turn it in the light and ENJOY : The Wilhelm Scream
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  Quick question. I remember the option in older versions of iTunes to have a shopping cart for the store, ... : cfalcon
  • It's gone, and not really needed anymore. They have all of your account info on file, so all you need to ... : aggressor
  • Yes its in pref : Iwannaacura
  • 1) Shopping cart is *gone* as of version 9 2) You can use the Wishlist instead see that little down a... : dopefish
• Apple has always done awesome error messages. Error -21 Yah, real helpful. They are mostly much be... : Arctic Fox
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  What bothers me is that the ipods used to be able to integrate with winamp fully and work that way, and w... : re-verse
  • Yeah, iPod touch and iPhone libraries are encrypted. I liked being able to use my iPod with Rythmbox and ... : dmason
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    More countries need to sue them until they're forced to open that shit up. If it isn't illegal then it... : nudel
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      as pissed off as you are, there's nothing even remotely illegal about what they are doing, nor should the... : dopefish
      • Actively locking out competitors from interoperating with a pair of products which have or have had 80% m... : nudel
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      Yeah let's sue companies when we don't like their product. : dearjamie
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        Yeah, when they hold a stranglehold on the market and actively scuttle competition, I say let's. : nudel
        • sell your ipod and get a zune. The Zune software is 100000% better than iTunes in general, let alone spe... : rasputinreborn
        • Except the problem is every company does this. You would basically screw with a lot of markets, and reall... : ovrlrd
      • Its not that, its that they are forcing us to use an entirely different and separate product of theirs to... : re-verse
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      I'm pretty sure libgpod can read ipod touches/iphones these days, so apparently good to go? : Yanks
      • This is a linux only solution, but apparently it does: http://fatbuttlarry.blogspot.com/2010/01/ipod-t... : Yanks
• i still like it and use it as my primary media player. smart playlists ftw : gokart.
• Asus P55 motherboard? : dysfunctional
• I say this every day: try mediamonkey. (Note: ZipR is not a paid endorser of aforementioned software, he... : zipr