Evening Reading: Christmas Down

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  Funny seeing his post Inf'd. But I guess it does inform us that he still doesn't get it. : yacoub35
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    The tag isn't "inf", it is "interesting". That is a pretty spectacularly different distinction. We tag po... : haiku
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      Sorry great one, I wasn't criticizing the decision, I was making a quip about his spectacularly oblivious... : yacoub35
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        I'm explaining my moderation decisions simply for the sake of having a better community understanding. I'... : haiku
        • can you sleep at night? : niceguynick
• You are handling that shit yacoub35. Borderlands fucking sucked on the PS3 too. : massdev
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  Your reply is spot on. : sanchez
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    Spot on to being a bitchy whiner yes. : Fred Garvin
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      To clarify yacoub35 assumes that console gamers are blissfully ignorant and that's a load of shit. Lots o... : Fred Garvin
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        To be fair, what you wrote here sounds just like a mac zealot preaching the simplicity and elegance of th... : pyide
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          How many millions of people bought MW2 on consoles again? : rudds
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            That's not a fair comparison... TF2 is a PC game ported to console (I haven't played it on 360, but I've ... : Benefit
            • They're not entirely analogous, but MW2 is a prime example of a multiplayer FPS that's stripped out the e... : rudds
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        Fred, Fred, Fred. You still don't get it. Yes, I'm well aware that some console gamers are/were PC gamers... : yacoub35
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          Here's a point. If you think a developer is fucking the PC and you are a loyal PC gamer don't buy their g... : Fred Garvin
          • Yeah, you're still fixated on MW2. The rest of us are talking about Borderlands. I didn't buy MW2; I let ... : yacoub35
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            Only issue I have with the "vote with your wallet" option is that it really doesn't convince developers t... : the_burd
            • Not only that, but when they look at the piracy statistics, it's going to look worse. : mobab
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            Does this mean I can get a refund for my Borderlands Steam purchase? : Ride-My-Rocket
            • Yeah, at least Stardock did give refunds for the whole Demigod mess (though they didn't exactly advertise... : Benefit
            • I'd gladly trade in my PC borderlands for the 360 version. Sure, after a slew of changes in the .ini fil... : Wombat Woo
          • He wanted to support them, along with others. They were let down, and are with no hint of surprise upset ... : ieGod
        • Aren't these console vs PC threads supposed to bannable now? yea I don't give a shit, I hate this stupid : kallanta
        • You have no basis to comment on MP solutions in MW2 because you havent tried them. You say the people : maulla
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        To clarify yacoub35 assumes that console gamers are blissfully ignorant and that's a load of shit. We ar : jimmy-buffett
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          Best != most complicated and/or most expensive. Sorry. : Fred Garvin
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            Best = supporting the best control scheme for FPS, RTS and MMO. Best = letting the player community host... : jimmy-buffett
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              It's not inferior and it's not a compromise. It's about what is a priority. You seem to boil everything d... : Fred Garvin
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                I choose to play on console because it's the least amount of effort for the most fun in return. It's n : jimmy-buffett
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                  I really don't give a fuck about e-penis fights. I've always bought video cards and CPUs behind the bleed... : Fred Garvin
                  • Oh, you also for got to say console gamers are too stupid and immature for PC gaming as well. I mean sinc... : Fred Garvin
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                What's stopping PC gamers playing from their couch on a big screen? I do it ;). Steam handles patches ver : Alco23
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                  I know everything you are saying. I used to be hardcore into mods and trying to get my friends to try out... : Fred Garvin
                  • Maybe you should be using this time to play some games instead of posting on the internet? : mobab
              • Steam autopatches, and "voice servers" = "double click Ventrilo, press connect". Sounds like an awful lot... : Benefit
            • Are you honestly trying to say a person should have to work for their entertainment when that's what ever... : rudds
        • This post is so stupid. I'm a PC gamer and I don't do any of the things you say. : umegastar
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        The funniest part of you calling him a bitchy whiner and then posting this follow up is that these days c... : pyide
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          I turn on my console, start the game, a patch downloads and 10 seconds later I am playing. Not much hassl... : Fred Garvin
          • Hey, that sounds just like Steam. : jimmy-buffett
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            If only there was a system like that on the PC....oh wait...BRB...my tea pot is shooting hot water vapor ... : Jimbo Ro
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              And yet not every game uses Steam and not every patch solves issues for the massive variety of video, sou... : Fred Garvin
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                These are the games I wont buy. If it's not on Steam, I don't buy it. : Jimbo Ro
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                  And you are not the majority of the PC market. Not everyone can download 7GB games. Retail still rules. : Fred Garvin
                  • I have no issue with downloading large games, even on my piss slow 3 Mbps DSL connection. Most games hav... : Jimbo Ro
          • "I turn on my console, start the game, a patch downloads and 10 seconds later I am playing. Not much hass... : Godhatesfatpeople
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        The thing is, Linux is so much better than Windows. I use Windows, yet it's easy to acknowledge this. P... : Matt Burris
        • No, Linux isn't better IMO, if everything works it's fine. If it doesn't it's a bitch to get it to work p... : Fred Garvin
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        PC gamers for the most part have played games for longer and have more experiencing in judging whats good... : thewindcriesmary
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          I can guarantee you that I've been playing PC games longer than you and I find the attitude lame. : Fred Garvin
          • You could atleast try harder to be funny mr garvin @_@ : thewindcriesmary
      • exactly : dantastic
      • Yacoub's post was mainly about fixing very obvious bugs or other PC-specific issues that should have been : atom519
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      Yeah, pretty much have to agree with this. People make it out like it's fucking trivial to implement all ... : exponen7
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        The difference this time with the game was that the developers built up those expectations by saying one ... : pyide
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          Yeah, you're absolutely right there, and I feel that the marketing/PR teams for those particular games (B... : exponen7
          • That's true, I saw a lot of that. I too would have preferred MP but I still liked the demo enough to buy ... : pyide
        • Not only that, but many of the problems with the game the gamers would fix themselves (fi they knew how a... : Matt Burris
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  I don't get what's wrong with the pc version :/ : daedraug
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    I found it pretty good overall. Nothing glaringly bad except for the low fov no mini map and quick travel... : shirif
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      You can quick travel in lots of places. How far in did you play? : iamgoat
      • not like fallout3 : shirif
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    Let me tell you what is wrong with the PC version: 1) Broken multiplayer 2) Ability to break other pe... : ateam311
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      Oh and let's not forget that a patch didn't pop up until God knows how many people (myself included) had ... : ateam311
      • And the utter bullshit about making the PC port a good port. It's a shit port and none of the issues r... : Vincent Grayson
  • i haven't had so much trouble installing and running something since DOS. And I'm not whining, I'm being... : valael
• I wasn't even aware the first DLC was released. I am around level 35 with my first character but I haven'... : ctlaltl33t
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  I'm sympathetic, developers are no doubt highly emotionally invested in their game, but I guess it is a r... : SpaecKow
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    If you do spectacularly fail to deliver on promises, at least have the decency to stop shooting your mout... : Arcanum
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      Oh yeah its definitely whiney at this point - the game's been out for a while now, he should be able to d... : SpaecKow
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        The developers for Assassin's Creed could've been all bitchy about the feedback they got on the first gam... : Matt Burris
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          Hell, from what I've heard even the PC version of Assassin's Creed 1 was improved a good bit over the con... : Arcanum
          • It was, AC on the PC has a fair few (Um, four, I think, four different ones, that is.) mini-activities in... : Durajim
• Good replies yacoub : slickdoody
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  Using the term "console-itis" is as ridiculous to me as spelling Microsoft with a dollar sign (M$). It ju... : deveus1
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    Your loss. It's an efficient way of describing an annoying trend. If you can't get past the word, so be i... : yacoub35
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      what is that trend? : EvilDolemite
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        PC games being stuck with interfaces designed for operation by a console controller instead of a mouse an... : yacoub35
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          So having to use the keyboard to scroll really made you dislike the game this much? I agree using the sc... : Derringer
          • I would like to add that I understand you are angry with the promise of the PC version being a PC version... : Derringer
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            For one, we're not you. There are certain things that I may hate that you don't mind, and some things ... : mobab
            • I guess it came out wrong, I was just asking why he loses a lot of enjoyment from the main part of the ga... : Derringer
  • the term has a bad connotation, but it's... unusually fitting for this title. it was "developed for the ... : Downforce
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  And give me a break on those COD numbers. I love when they act like digital distro does not exist when it... : DogDharma
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    I get that though, PC sales can't possibly mean much to these guys. Their price point is high (50-40 bux)... : SpaecKow
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      Right if they were developing for pc only they wouldn't make money, but I can't imagine a game that does ... : DogDharma
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        Well he says in that post that they earned two weeks burn rate off the PC version sales, which no, it ain... : SpaecKow
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          Wrong he is guessing at modern warfare 2s dev costs. With that absurd 190k unit sales number. Even at 190... : DogDharma
          • Well he was speaking in general terms, but I doubt that Borderlands sold even 190k on PC. : SpaecKow
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            Btw mw2 cost 40-50 million to make. So just with some basic math you can se the pc sales only funding 2 w... : DogDharma
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              You are making a huge assumption guessing that they get back 20 dollars on every copy of MW2. : SpaecKow
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                Yeah, where the fuck are these magical numbers coming from? : ateam311
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                  I said in my posts they are guesses. Besides the mw2 dev costs. Total guess on the $20 return per copy th... : DogDharma
                  • Well, if you ask Randy, he'll fucking tell you he has to sell his soul, left leg, and right leg in order ... : ateam311
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    You'd be very wrong in thinking that the DD numbers for a retail game like CoD is anywhere near 50%. : Fred Garvin
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      50% of PC? I think that's a non crazy claim to make. : SpaecKow
      • Not from the devs I've talked to. It's definitely grown, but retail is still king. : Fred Garvin
    • Really even on a pc game that just basically activates the game on steam for you. I'm seriously asking, b... : DogDharma
• Did you guys notice with the November NPC #'s that Call of Duty Modern Warfare 2 only did 180k units on P : te[R]ror
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  I didn't buy this for the PC solely of the horror stories I heard about it. A few buddies bought it & sa... : goatjc
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    I will never, ever let "horror stories" like that stop me from buying a game that looks interesting. The ... : daedraug
    • I hear ya. . .but, I believe there's a huge difference between shack's viewpoint & some of my casual gam... : goatjc
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      You played Borderlands on the PC. Tell me that mouse input is satisfactory. The menus are absolutely fuck... : te[R]ror
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        I didn't notice any issues with mouse input at all. Yes, the menus could have been better adapted for mou... : daedraug
        • How about when you open up a menu, of any sort. What's the keyboard shortcut to accept a quest or whateve... : te[R]ror
    • You can say the same about people calling a game good. They seem to irrationally like a game such that y... : mobab
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  That's him refining how he talks out of his ass. He's getting better at it. : jingletard
  • Couldn't have said it any better. : ateam311
• uck, yep I am done with them. its my own damn fault for buying the game, and I accept that, but i dont h... : smacknca
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  The only two major problems I had with the PC version is the FOV and trouble with multiplayer. FOV solve... : iamgoat
  • PC-specific problems: FOV Multiplayer connection problems (including firewall issues) UI Issues, inclu... : Arcanum
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  "The reality is that the PC is a platform that is in trouble." Stopped reading right there. Fuck him. : Robotic Puppy Eater
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    Yes, how dare he be realistic. : daedraug
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      With the expectation that he should be able to sell millions of copies of a game which makes huge demands... : SpaecKow
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        It's not possible to make a AAA PC only game these days. The return just isn't there. : Fred Garvin
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          I can name an entire genre that would prove your generalization wrong. : ateam311
          • You're also doing that bullshit people do where they assume all factors remain true except for the one th... : ateam311
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            Are you thinking MMOs? That's a class unto itself and most are struggling besides WoW. : Fred Garvin
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              Even if we excluded my follow-up post from the equation and focused entirely on MMOGs, there are still MM... : ateam311
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                Other than WoW and a handful of others show me MMOs that are making profits large enough to be considered... : Fred Garvin
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                  Yes, other than all the MMOs that have been successful, ateam311, show me some that are considered succes : yacoub35
                  • It's best to ignore that shit when he starts spewing it. It just feeds his desire to keep doing it. : ateam311
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                  Fred, your ability to crack the code on something that doesn't need cracking puzzles me. Turbine sends th... : ateam311
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                    Do you know the financials of those MMOs are you sure they are turning profits? : Fred Garvin
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                      Of the ones I listed? Fred, I can tell you all of those games I've listed - Shadowbane included - drew pr... : ateam311
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                        I am serious, how do you know they are profitable or just breaking even or in some cases losing money? AO... : Fred Garvin
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                          how do you know they're not profitable? : valael
                          • Well, then we are all making assumptions. : Fred Garvin
                        • For starters, Funcom is full of retarded managers who have half decent liars for sales reps. That's the o : DerHuhnTeufel
                      • Do you honestly think those MMOs are successful when they've been consistently consolidating and downsizi... : rudds
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                  Blizzard seems to have no problem asking me to come back every couple of months, just like WAR. : Vincent Grayson
                  • Strange. Maybe my SPAM filters are killing the emails. : Fred Garvin
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                  World of Warcraft, EVE online, lord of the rings online, guild wars + xpacs, CoH/V. There are also a bunc... : thewindcriesmary
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                    The term "AAA" refers to the budget, not quality. DoW2 and the Total War games are not AAA games. : walker270
                    • What was the budget for DoW2? : capt tripps
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          They don't have to make it PC only. But holy shit, spend some effort getting the ports done correctly. Ga... : Robotic Puppy Eater
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            I agree, but they are often forced to draw the line somewhere and the lowest platform on the totem pole i... : Fred Garvin
            • Fine, but don't lie to people about which platform is at the top, and don't act like you're God's gift to... : Arcanum
            • And they did that already, there's no Wii version of Borderlands. : MeestaNob
        • Which is why I say its not possible for Gearbox specifically, that doesn't stop just anyone from making a... : SpaecKow
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          How about making a game with a reasonable budget and reasonable sales expectations. That would be realis... : capt tripps
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            Sure, that's entirely possible. Look at Torchlight. : Fred Garvin
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              Sometimes I think we'd be better off if the big publishers just left the PC market. It's not like people... : capt tripps
              • AAA titles like GTAIV and MW2 would have sold just fine on the PC. Would sales have exploded like they di... : ateam311
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                I think DD might make a market for a crunchy middle. Maybe a "AA" category with games that aren't huge bu... : Fred Garvin
                • I could live with that. I really like Stardocks approach. Spend 2 mil, make 10, and make the game fun a... : capt tripps
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              It's a nice clone with less features than the Diablo games, but if you are looking to bring innovation in... : Mad Brahmin Disease
              • Big budgets don't exactly encourage innovation. I would say that, if anything, big budgets stifle innova... : capt tripps
              • SOTA graphics don't sell the game if the requirements are insane compared to the average gamer pc. : madspacemarinemustdie
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          You can make an AAA PC-centric game. Look at anything Valve makes. You can tell that PC is #1 priorit... : Jimbo Ro
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            And they also sell on consoles so it's not 100% PC exclusive. : Fred Garvin
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              I never said it was. But it's clear that some people do a better job than others at making "PC games". : Jimbo Ro
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                That's not the point. No publisher these days will put the money into a big title without consideration f... : Fred Garvin
                • The point is having games that work for the platform they come out on. Don't give me a PC game where I... : Jimbo Ro
          • Valve pays for its own development and doesn't have to rely on a clueless publisher for funding and direc... : rudds
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          Would you consider the Total War series AAA? : bipolar
          • or Command and Conquer? Star Trek Online? : bipolar
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            Not really. And C&C used to be AAA, but I am not sure if t is anymore. As for MMOs that's a different top... : Fred Garvin
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              What is your definition of AAA, if the Total War series doesn't meet it. : bipolar
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                Or are you redefining AAA as by-definition not PC-only? : bipolar
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                  AAA refers to budget and marketing, not quality. : walker270
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                    What is the minimum budget required? : bipolar
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                      A title like MW2, ME2, Dragon Age, the big sport titles, GTA, etc. Those are all AAA. Kind of like blockb... : Fred Garvin
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                        So in quantitative terms, why would the Empire series not be AAA? Would Starcraft (PC / Mac only afaik) ... : bipolar
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                          Because it has nowhere near the budget or media push of the titles I listed. Starcraft II and most Valve ... : Fred Garvin
                          • Wouldn't the AAA status depend on the system? A AAA DS game wouldn't cost as much to make as a PS3 AAA g... : capt tripps
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                          From all indications of developer interviews over the past few years, successful PC games (from companies : walker270
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                            By that standard, there are no AAA games on the DS - nothing has the media blitz of a Madden 2010 or what... : bipolar
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                              The Nintendo games tend to have some level of TV spots. You also need to consider the actual developme... : walker270
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                                I was under the impression that the PS3 was the most inherently difficult to develop for (less mature mid... : bipolar
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                                  Initially, yes, but I'm pretty sure the middleware has evolved over the last three years. I also use... : walker270
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                                    I basically agree with capt tripps above, in that the budgetary definition of AAA will vary from platform... : bipolar
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                                      Okay. That's not what the term means. You really don't have a say in the matter. The statement Garvi... : walker270
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                                        I would guess that two meanings of the term are being conflated, and that what more precisely could be sa... : bipolar
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                                          I don't care what you think about the term. Your opinion on the matter is completely irrelevant. The t... : walker270
                                          • Um the statement AAA has a defined meaning is false. It never has because it can't. What was considered a... : Chod
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                      >$50 million total, I think? Maybe more like $75-100 million? Modern Warfare 2's topped $200 million wh... : walker270
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                        I'm somewhat skeptical of that number. http://www.cnbc.com/id/34432364?slide=7 says that MW2 sold somewh... : bipolar
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                          “Modern Warfare 2” made $550 million in the first five days, so it’s no surprise to se : walker270
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                            I would guess they are talking about revenue, not profit - unless you assume that each of those 4 million... : bipolar
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                              I don't mean to be rude, but can you read what you linked? The 4.2 million number was for the X-Box 360 : walker270
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                                I wasn't aware it was released on the PS3, and it was mentioned here how the sales of the PC port were ne... : bipolar
                                • Well, that $550 million number was apparently worldwide gross revenue after the first 5 days. The game... : walker270
                  • The only thing budget and marketing have to do with a game is the review scores it gets. Defining whether... : Benefit
          • I for one play only A+A+A++ titles. : Nitrium
        • Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 would like to have a word with you. : razlebol
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      Being realistic is fine. Doing a barely-any-extra-work port to another platform and not patching it fo... : jimmy-buffett
      • ^^^ this : Serpico74
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        But I do feel lucky I got to play it, and it didn't seem like a poor port to me. So I would prefer they k... : daedraug
        • Then we have to kill you somehow, because you're fucking up our PC gaming agenda. : SpaecKow
        • Independent of the game's shitty ending, I for one would choose to not play it at all, rather than play a... : jimmy-buffett
        • Honestly, as ports go the new problems that were introduced are only mundanely bad. The problem is aggra... : Arcanum
        • I'm guessing you didn't play the Halo PC port when it first came out .... : Matt Burris
      • EA and mythic did the same thing with Warhammer online. They sold well over a million copies during launc... : thewindcriesmary
      • They've already made the cost-benefit analysis: they spent a bare minimum to get initial sales, and they : te[R]ror
      • Critical hit number 2 : Godhatesfatpeople
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      I don't think he's being realistic in the least. PC as a gaming platform is doing fine, and I think all t... : Robotic Puppy Eater
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        Good luck making an MMO these days. It's a massive risk. Everyone pub jumped on the bandwagon after WoW a... : Fred Garvin
        • Failed how? Are there any numbers on how profitable they are? : Zek
    • He can stop making games for PC and losing money over nothing. That's very realistic if you ask me. : te[R]ror
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    Why? He is 100% right, they can't win in that department, no matter what they do. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      If they can't win, it's because they set themselves up with a bad strategy. : MercFox1
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        Of course, seeing how easy PC gamers are to please. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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          WAH WAH WAH GO JIGGLE YOUR GAMEPAD : SpaecKow
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            GO PRESS PAGE DOWN AND CLICK STUFF WITH YOUR MOUSE AND OPEN PORTS AND CUSTOMIZE YOUR INI FILES : Mad Brahmin Disease
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              I THINK ILL DO JUST THAT THANKS FAG : SpaecKow
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                YOUR FACE IS A FAG : Mad Brahmin Disease
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                  Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that a brahmin and a kow are fighting each other? : mobab
                  • this post needs more love : flagg209
                  • hahaa : mrvandelay
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  I say fuck the haters. I own the PC version and the Zombie DLC and you know what? I fucking loved it.... : IndigoAK
  • ^ Same here. I have not seen the ending, but it cannot be worse than Quake II's original ending prior to... : iamgoat
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    While I agree that the game is fun and awesome (I also bought the zombie DLC), and there are no massive d... : deject
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      In my case, I wasn't really interested in the game even when I bought the 4-pack with other shackers. I ... : IndigoAK
      • Well that's fine, but when they were talking about making sure the PC version was awesome and the best ve... : deject
  • It's not that the game wasn't awesome, it's just that they said things would be a certain way, and they w... : mlev
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  As far as I know, he flat out lied prior to release and hasn't said "sorry" or "we overpromised and under... : veras
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    "but the guy seems like a whiny baby who can't own up to his own failings/mistakes" I'd say a lot of p... : daedraug
    • Ding ding motherfucking ding : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      There's a difference between "omg our game is going to be awesome!!" and "it's not going to be a console ... : ramshot
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        Do you at least see it as a hopeless cause? Because that's what it is. : Mad Brahmin Disease
        • Perhaps. : ramshot
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    My thoughts exactly, he LIED directly to his consumer. : watcherxp
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      HE LIED RIGHT TO OUR FACES! How could they?! : Mad Brahmin Disease
      • now you're just acting silly. a company that outright lies in their marketing pays hell for it from their... : yacoub35
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  Peak players in steam today alone was 120k. Is he trying to say that. 60% of the peole that own the game ... : DogDharma
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    no, he's making a disingenuous statement about MW2 sales that have no bearing on reality because they don... : veras
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      are you saying the digital distribution numbers will add so much to make it seem on par with the console ... : nudder
      • No, but it will be much higher than that 180k figure. : MaJeStu
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        That 120k you saw on steam has to be added to the 180k because it wasn't included in the numbers. Now thi... : DerHuhnTeufel
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          Do retail copies not have Steam? Some games use Steam even when you buy a retail copy, you sure MW2 isn't... : uncleanmonkey
          • Some googling seems to indicate that even retail copies are Steam-enabled. In other words, those 120K pea... : uncleanmonkey
• I just wanted multiplayer to work. I'm so glad Left 4 Dead 2 works. : DOOManiac
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  I am sending this email to Gearbox, and specifically to Randy Pitchford through the contact link on their... : deject
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    It's well written. Personally if I was you I'd feel like I'm wasting my time. They don't cares, and we sh... : te[R]ror
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      Maybe I am wasting my time, but I felt like that needed to be said. : deject
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        I understand. Discussing it on the boards like this also feels a bit like wasting time, but sometimes it'... : te[R]ror
        • that's why I sent it to them. ;D : deject
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        Believe me deject, there are *many* of us at gearbox who do care (and that lurk through here), and many o... : dopefish
        • Thanks, dopefish. You are wrong about the FOV though. A screwed up FOV in a FPS can make or break a good... : smax
        • I get that you don't want to talk about stuff in the work, but that doesn't help the fact alot of people ... : MaJeStu
        • Well, see now this is what I mean. Just say hey look we know about those things and we're working on it.... : deject
    • They obviously do care, otherwise Randy wouldn't have come onto a completely unrelated-to-borderlands-oth : Durajim
  • I'd mention the lack of push to talk and UPNP port forwarding. I love the game overall and don't get why ... : node
• All this stuff aside, anyone else get a corrupted character on the xbox 360 side? I lost a level 24 my f... : burning eye
• his staff need to toughen the fuck up. and release more smaller, frequent patches, don't wait until you h... : CoRDS
• sounds like i need to go the USA again, but this time actually punch people in the balls (sorry sparkly )... : CoRDS
• i had to press page down to read his whole reply =( : extrahappyturtle
• TL;DR. Opinion was formed when they released the game. Long Shacknews replies are less effective than ... : MercFox1
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  tldr: pc gaming is "dying" but not in the sense that we won't get games, but really what we will get is j... : nudder
  • Consoles can gladly have most of the games being badly ported. There's a ton of good PC games still comin... : Benefit
• When I buy a water heater, I expect it to make hot water. I don't care whether this model sold well or no : melt_core
• While I understand what he is trying to say, Borderlands PC simply was horrible at launch (have not check... : ramshot
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  While I don't agree with him justifying releasing a horribly broken game (I would've delayed it, or just ... : uncleanmonkey
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    About your 1: didn't MW2 sell more than 1 million copies on PC? Is that something to overlook? : Nitrium
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      AFAIK it's not even at half a million yet. : uncleanmonkey
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        Even if it was only say 200,000 total sold. You multiply that by 60 and you get 12 million in sales. Th... : Crimsonbeak
        • No, you multiply it by $10 and you get 2M for the developer. Let's say an average engineer, including sal... : uncleanmonkey
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    i think you grossly overestimate how many copies 'mediocre run of the mill shooters from ten years ago' a... : maulla
    • I don't think so. Any moderately decent shooter would sell at least half a million copies (at a higher pr... : uncleanmonkey
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    MW2 is the other recent heavily hyped game that is even more notorious for its dismal PC feature set. : Zek
    • Don't be ridiculous. Take COD4 then. : uncleanmonkey
  • I don't want to sound like just another one of the people bitching about MW2, but I didn't purchase it--a... : mlev
  • "3. PC gamers whining about bullshit (e.g. "dumbed down" gameplay...)" If they think our concerns are ... : Marrbe
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  I just won't buy their next game. They're sitting in the same boat as Stardock, after the abomination tha... : Benefit
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    Uhhhh, Gas Powered Games developed Demigod didn't they? : IndigoAK
    • Yeah but all of the multiplayer issues were on Stardock's side, since they were handling all of the multi... : Benefit
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  yacoub35 for the critical hit, lol : Godhatesfatpeople
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    It was pretty brutal, but I agreed with every single thing I wonder if Randy actually reads that reply : jbury
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      Considering Randy's hit n' run record. He won't reply. He's better off just staying away from a good repl... : Godhatesfatpeople
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        That's not a good reply, that's a slightly better than averagely articulated "WAAH." Considering these va... : daedraug
        • He stated some bullshit and he got called out. It's a good reply :) : Godhatesfatpeople
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  I think this was Randy's Fuck You and Goodbye to the PC platform. It's a pretty poor response. Denial : MeestaNob
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    With such low sales potential on the PC, why would they? I'm not defending their actions, but sooner or l... : rudds
    • You say that, but it surprises me just how much stuff gets ported to PC afterwards, when no one expected ... : node
    • Then they shouldn't have spewed all that bullshit out of their mouths about how it was primarily a PC gam... : phate81
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  bean summarized it well: "Pretty much, but you can sure as shit bet I won't be giving Gearbox any more... : Hoax
  • lol "There are some cool PC-only touches like timedemo for benchmarking and a tool to export item cards a... : Benefit
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  So in summary: Gearbox said they focused on the PC version, they appeared be lying. They have appeared no... : filthysock
  • yes. : yacoub35
  • Yep. : mlev
  • If you're talking specifically of the shack, I guess yes. Not so by their forums, because there are a lot... : Nitrium
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    Dude, you can't blame sTeve, he's a marketing director. What did you expect him to do? Take a job and ... : MagicWishMonkey
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      if what they said was "bending the truth a little" then what's your definition of lying? : deject
      • I'm sure he was repeating what he was told, he wasn't involved with the actual game development. So he... : MagicWishMonkey
    • yeah but that's where he lost his credibility and goodwill on the shack. effectively he used his reputati... : Hoax
  • Oh the drama. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Only thing that bugged me about this whole Borderlands fiasco is Steve Gibson. Has he even posted post l... : kingdepork
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    only a single post, concerning the console version : filthysock
    • It's funny because he seemed burned out on the shack. Once he left he really wanted nothing to do with i... : kingdepork
  • I don't think I'd peek in here either after the torrent of over-the-top vitriol that was posted : Dave-A
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  I will say his argument over poor PC sales is really flawed. I'd love to know exactly (both DD and bri... : freakynipples69
  • It's unfortunate that we never get sales figures out of them. I have to think that retail sales (even on ... : maulla
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    It also makes me wonder if all the Steam and DD sales are a scream for help. Kind of a "take a hit to ge... : kingdepork
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      It's possible. But it simply could be DD allows games to be offered at a deep discount for the fact the c... : freakynipples69
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        But they aren't allowed to release it at that price due to retail stores having a shit fit, correct? : kingdepork
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          I don't know what you mean? New releases are almost always priced lower on Steam versus any retail store. : freakynipples69
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            I thought there was a bit of a dispute that they couldn't low ball the retail stores. Maybe that was bac... : kingdepork
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              Even Amazon sells new releases are around $10 less, usually. I remember Borderlands was $45 for pre-order... : freakynipples69
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                Shit, it's PC time again isn't it? Until a new console comes out, I'm gonna be in sale heaven. : kingdepork
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                  You can get console games at fair prices, if you're a smart shopper. cheapassgamer.com Amazon.com ... : freakynipples69
                  • Towards the end of any console cycle, my PC gland starts cumming in my brain. Even though there are chea... : kingdepork
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    Minus out the MMO market, for argument sake. : freakynipples69
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      Yeah MMOs and facebook games get their own classification. The "pay to be bored" model that unfortunatel... : kingdepork
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        Yeah, cause you'll find people playing WoW who wouldn't even go near a FPS, let alone know how to play it... : freakynipples69
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          I said that? I just put them in a different classification as games themselves. Not the gamers who may ... : kingdepork
          • Well, what I said is the main reason why they deserve a different classification in my eyes. It would be ... : freakynipples69
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        No, they're different because they can only really be done on the PC. Consoles aren't as integrated with ... : Zek
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          I think the lack of keyboard is the main factor for trying to play CURRENT MMO's on a console. Howeve... : freakynipples69
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            Yeah but I don't think they'll ever repeat WoW's success that way. It's just a different sort of culture,... : Zek
            • I don't think anyone will ever be able to repeat WoW's success. Ever. But I understand what you are s... : freakynipples69
          • FFXI is on consoles and it controls quite well there. : kbnerd
      • No, they do not. They are games. You may not like them, you may not play them, but that does not change t... : Ebu
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    Brick and martyr, eh? Joan of Arc is selling PC games? : Lone Swordsman
    • The random fire sales are AWESOME : roushimsx
    • Yeah, you get codes for exclusive downloadable content when you pre-order through her. : freakynipples69
    • That cracked me up, too. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  I love his blaming 'low' sales for lack of support. 180k people bought the game on the PC, that's not ch... : deathofrats
  • I don't hate you gearbox. :( : deject

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• as long as the engineer gets a lightsaber it should balance out : gyokuro
• Having played the original Team Fortress for years, not that garbage TFC, TF2 is fucking awesome. Go eat... : Jimbo Ro
• The L4D games are nothing but griefing in versus mode. : thecatinthehat
• They've made the best damn multiplayer game in the world 3 years running. I'm not terribly fond of all t... : bipolar
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  Have you tried calling them a fag? Perhaps you should email Gabe and tell him what you think he should do... : CrimsonHandHiro
  • If you do this and he replies though you must post it here. : thecatinthehat
• even the sword isn't fast enough for the Force of Nature. : mista mista
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  seems fine to me. the sword is no less crazy then swinging a glass jug around. and while i was worried a... : harold.johnson
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    the sword seems to be pretty retardedly good. i see demoman charging into groups of people and getting ki... : shaq_mobile
    • shotguns, pistols and heavies can drop a charging demo pretty quickly. an alert sniper can do it in one s... : harold.johnson
• They actually pay some attention to the competition world, and it's a very different game there. I think ... : terath
• I think you should hit them with a newspaper and then rub their noses in it. That'll teach them ! : master_disaster_17
• Yeah, I hate them for making the game absurd but hilarious, fun and balanced at the same time, with plent... : Nitrium
• Uh oh sounds like somebody has lost their head. : Sludgehead
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  Definitely not Valve nor their games that are broken. It seems to me like you're the only thing that's b... : Zips
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    I don't think he's in the minority as far as the sword thing goes. Them adding a sword for a DEMO man is ... : Phreakin
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      Compared to what? A jar of pee for a sniper or a half sandwich for a fat guy? The whole game is retarded ... : Sludgehead
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        I guess I look at those differently. Are they stupid? Sure, but when you put them with the "Meet The" vid... : Phreakin
        • Do you really think the sword is that different from the sandwich or jar of pee? TF2 is absurd and I thin... : Nitrium
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          Well I think the only thing remotely mmo'esque is the crafting, which is mainly there to make useless hat... : Sludgehead
          • Crafting will have a broader purpose once they add random weapon drops. (Not kidding, check the code they... : arsonide
        • How the heck does this sword, above all else, drive it into your head that they're going a MMO route with : Zips
        • You do realize that the demo is scottish and it fits into the highlander thing perfectly right? It's not ... : MoreVespeneGas
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      There's reasons for that, actually. : eonix
      • The reason doesn't make it any less dumb in my opinion. Again, to each their own but for me personally, I... : Phreakin
• Oh shit fuck fuck fuck fuck the front pagers have found LC. ARM YOURSELVES SHACKERS FREEEEEEEEEDOM ... : R@zzle
• iawtp : madspacemarinemustdie
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  You're moaning that they removed griefing O_o : chazums
  • They went above and beyond. No flag based CP's or Hunted because of the possibility someone could be a... : Beady
• isn't it just another melee weapon? the direct hit is more whine worthy. it's just a damage buff for p... : eisencc
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  I don't understand why everyone gets their panties in a bunch over the sword. It's a melee weapon replac... : FlamingGimp
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    TF2 has just been a disaster form the start. I guess that's what happens when you release a demo as the o... : boulder94
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      Wow. Burning ain't ya? CTF is a boring, outdated mode, I struggle to complete any CTF match in any game. : Creepin_Jeezus
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        Flags dont mean CTF. Once upon a time in dustbowl (and plenty of other maps), the attackers had to bri... : Beady
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          Point to Beady. I totally forgot about the flag based dustbowl type maps. Yeah that's a fun take on it. : Creepin_Jeezus
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            That's what I was talking about - canalzone 2, rock2, etc. They used all of the map when the flag/key was... : boulder94
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              They definitely were very fun maps. I guess valve dropped that style because it made designing the flow o... : Creepin_Jeezus
              • also because people could elect to not bring the flag anywhere by trolling a server : kaddar0
      • there's nothing wrong with ctf, it's the slow idiots that have infested games and can't handle anything w... : synapse19
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      Woot there it is, flag based CP reference! Where's my $5? But seriously Boulder apparently doesn't recogn... : arsonide
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        The additions don't enhance anything at all. That's the problem. : boulder94
        • So what, they're free. The moment you pay a dime for one, you have a right to complain about them. Pretty... : arsonide
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      Haha what? I assume you're referencing Fisher Price to infer that the CP game mode is ill implemented an : FlamingGimp
      • Popped my shacktag-fail cherry! Woo! : FlamingGimp
    • Just here for the lols. : dmason
  • The logic is exchange defense for a slightly more offensive tool. Dont run backwards planting stickies or... : rickyfitz
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  Oh hey it's a boulder94 post about TF2. How long until he mentions flag based CP? Bets are on! : arsonide
  • haha I remember this guy too : niceguynick
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  Dont think about TF2 as being a team fortress game then. Just think of it as a silly team deathmatch. ... : Beady
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    Right. That's all it is is a sanitized, beginner acceptable team deathmatch. : boulder94
    • And I love that. We can't all be pros like you and your buddies. Some people are FPS-retarded (like me), ... : sonicdeathwalrus
  • they're grenades not PIPES : MoreVespeneGas
• Still love the game even with these new shitty items. But im waiting until after NY'er for the nerfs. It'... : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Too much random fluff : synapse19
  • in TF2 that is. Don't know wtf you're talking about with L4D. : synapse19
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  People here really defend L4D2 way too blindly. I thought it was a lot worse than the original and it fee... : free2game365
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    No way user with a god damned horrible name. : Godhatesfatpeople
    • Pot + Kettle : Phreakin
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      hahahahahahahahahahahaha awesome reply. though i agree with him, that reply is way too pro to argue with. : shaq_mobile
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        "too pro to argue with" What does this even mean? : MaJeStu
        • its too pro. just accept it and move on bro : Xanthos
  • lol yeah, the guys who put 20 hours a week into L4D2 are defending it "blindly" : zerog83
  • If you're not enjoying L4D2 it's because you play with shit people. : Creepin_Jeezus
  • more like £4D2, right? : sonicdeathwalrus
  • I was happy paying $30 for it, but for me its not a game I would pay full price for. I dont believe that ... : maulla
  • stfu : ass-street
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    Outdated as compared to what, exactly? Modern Warfare 2? Killzone 2? : Lone Swordsman
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      Well, yes. Or Halo 3, Gears 2, etc, etc. I think L4D2 is wicked, wicked fun, but man, it really doesn't f... : MaJeStu
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        I assumed he was talking about more than just the graphics engine. In which case I think L4D2 still look... : Lone Swordsman
        • Really? I literally don't see that at all. Most everything looks untextured and looks just... flat to me,... : MaJeStu
        • Well that's a silly thing to compare it to, Halo 3 is a 3 year old console game. At least Halo 3 looks co... : free2game365
      • how so? : ass-street
• its called selling out, you would do it to if you were goign to make as much money as they are now. : shaq_mobile
• I love it. TF2 is about chaotic teamplay and with the new sword and the direct hit, it's more chaotic tha... : razlebol
• lol, TF2 has always been about cartoon violence with a comedic tone, they've just taken it a little furth... : Zek
• boulder94 post. : atom519

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  Do you get to take the glasses home with you? : humbleone
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    You recycle them. IMAX had snorkel-size goggles, while normal 3D used what looked like sunglasses. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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      I went to a normal 3D one and they had security chips in the glasses, didn't look like they threw them aw... : laurgasms
      • The IMAX goggles came out of a tray, so they could have been just placed back on there, but the normal g... : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
      • They wash them. : Athlon7
  • My friends and I use fandango and each one of us walked in with our own slip, somehow each of us got 3 gl... : Sailor of Fortune
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  I'll probably catch it this week. Is the 3D thing a must? : dmason
  • Well, I haven't seen the 3D version yet (only the regular) - but I kinda regret not watching it in 3D the... : humbleone
  • There are some very cool 3d shots in the movie. : SpaecKow
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    Its borderline not worth watching in 2D. I probably won't pick up the Blu-ray. : ventro
    • i dont get this at all. while the 3d was great and all i really didnt feel like anything would suffer tha... : ozfactor
  • It pretty much has to be seen in 3D. : ColoradoCNC
  • it makes the movie worth watching : industro
  • Absolutely. It ads a lot of depth and realism to the environment and helps sell the CG as reality. : rudds
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    It makes it awesome : Sailor of Fortune
    • Damn. It settled then, 3D here I come. : dmason
  • No. It doesn't add anything substantial. : slickdoody
  • at first you'll think it's a gimmick and worthless... then you'll realise half way through the movie that... : erotic sock
  • Yes, yes, and yes. : kallanta
  • without it you'll wonder why you went to see a 3 hour cheese movie filled with montages : chodog
  • Fuck yes. : Stoned Gargoyle
  • Definitely a must, : ateam311
  • Yes yes yes. : ieGod
  • Yes. It's the way the movie was meant to be seen. : pigvomit
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    When the scene comes where he's (not really a spoiler at all) walking on the tree branch way up high in t : riptyde
    • You nailed the exact scene where I got vertigo and realized the power of the 3D. : bling1bling
    • The Valkyrie shuttle cockpit with the full bubble HUD was amazing. : Sailor of Fortune
  • For this movie? Yes. : lightly inclined
  • I was on the fence, but you MUST see it in 3D. Tip: sit in the middle. Aisle seats like we're used to ... : romulan
  • Only if you want to visit Pandora : socksta
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  Loved the tech, the movie was almost unbearable. Can't wait for future movies using this tech tho, the sc... : Chunks
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    The Forever War is using it. Can't. Wait. Now John Scalzi just needs to get a studio to pick up Old Ma... : ColoradoCNC
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      why am i only just learning that they're finally making this into a movie? and ridley scott is directing.... : erotic sock
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        Wow, the ending will annoy a lot of people. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
        • I don't know how else they could end it. : trove
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      Holy shit, they're making Forever War into a movie? : Ride-My-Rocket
      • It would be ironic if they turned it into a pro-militarism movie. : trove
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    I agree that the movie was almost unbearable. Another thing I noticed about the tech, however, is it s... : limpossible
    • It's really hard to use in large scenes, or panorama scenes where there isn't a clear focal point. If yo... : qsylvr
• i went to see it today and its sold out :( : m0nkz
• got tickets to IMAX finally. 10:45pm showing on friday night lolz : Downforce
• The 12pm show was sold out today when I went to see Sherlock Holmes. Sold out on a freaken monday afterno... : d3tached
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  Is it a pretty safe bet that it'll still be showing on IMAX screens in mid-January? They don't seem to b... : owly
  • I can't imagine it disappearing in the next few weeks, no. : Conan
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    It is booked in IMAX until March when Alice in Wonderland comes out. : Crimsonbeak
    • Sweet! Thanks. : owly
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  haha, the movie was greated, but the damn 3d part hurt my eyes. First I was wearing the things and my ey... : dancingpolkabear
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    or maybe it was just me or the glasses the theater gave me to wear : dancingpolkabear
    • I started to get sore eyes at about the 2 hour mark. Hopefully most movies tie it up around then. lol. : thecray
    • It was probably the theater, I would guess that they didn't calibrate it properly or something. Maybe th... : qsylvr
• just saw it this afternoon and the regular world seems bland and colorless after watching Avatar 3D : Aerioch
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  haha I knew Avatar would beat TDK for the 2nd biggest weekend. Also the movie will have 3 months run i... : Flynn
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    $600M worldwide in just 2 weeks. Redonkulous. : riptyde
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      Next: The Oscars. The movie will definitely get nominated for the Best Picture of the Year, as well as Be... : Flynn
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        i'm hopeful it'll sweep the technical awards, but i think district 9 will be a strong challenger : Herman Toothrot
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          District 9 isn't really a technical accomplishment except in terms of what they did for the budget. It's ... : Vincent Grayson
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            The aliens were totally convincing, both from a realism and performance standpoint. All the effects in th... : Serpico74
            • Except that they were all just outclassed by Avatar in every way possible. : Vincent Grayson
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        Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2_vB7zx_SQ The movie was not done like an animated mo... : Sailor of Fortune
        • They even motion captured a fucking horse! : Sailor of Fortune
        • Why had I not seen this video before? Really nice behind-the-scenes stuff. : Nixx2004
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          what still blows my mind is that all of the vegetation on screen is all cgi. It's mind blowing how photo ... : Flynn
          • They had programs running that would insert bugs and birds flying around in the background just to make i... : Crimsonbeak
        • whoa. : riptyde
        • Slightly extended version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6JXUoWeZ7Q : ventro
        • The extra content on the disc set is going to be so god damn awesome. : bling1bling
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      That's actually really good news, considering how much it cost to make. More Ridley Scott awaits us! : Athlon7
      • I hope that's a joke. : thecray
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        what about James Cameron? : shika.art
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          That guy is a hack, Alien was the better movie. : qsylvr
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            You mean Aliens? Scott directed the sequel. : lechuck59
            • Ridley Scott directed the first one, Cameron directed Aliens. : Lone Swordsman
            • jesus fucking christ. : biskits
            • hey everyone, point and laugh! : graceofdragons
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  Gonna see it on sunday with some friends in glorious IMAX 3D! It'll be my first time seeing it, I'm exci... : TheVietSpecial
  • Cherish every moment. : yautja
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  Question for those seeing it in non-IMAX: Were there lines, or did you have to get there fairly early to ... : Nixx2004
  • There was a line when I saw it a second time in Real D at 2 PM on a Sunday : Sailor of Fortune
• Fucking awesome! Saw it at Imax tonight. : .frame
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thsc60UTUIE&feature=player_embedded : SigENeaT
• I'll hopefully be hitting the IMAX up at some point in the next few days : Mr. Goodwrench

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  That's really too bad and I mean that, but jesus christ is that bad a bunch of emo faggots : Phreakin
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    Do you even know what emo means? : ArcKnight
    • Well, he was half right. : contentious roy
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      Yes I do, and sorry if I insulted a band you like. : Phreakin
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        emo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7itHHrTty0 avenged sevenfold: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIRN... : nyranger66
        • COME BACK TO ME ITS ALMOST EASY : moe6
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          ummm... wrong dude. emo is a branch of hardcore. dashboard is not "emo." i fucking hate that type of ... : chrisschutz
          • Personally, I don't think emo even exists. The whole idea behind the word emo - people that are overly e... : IndigoAK
          • emo was a branch of hardcore. those days are gone. now it is widely accepted that it describes a kind of ... : tashtego
          • Dashboard is mainstream emo. While they aren't Sunny Day Real Estate, or Mineral, Dashboard is certainly... : Clasifyd
          • I think most people think of Emo as any band that tries to look hardcore rocking badass, yet sings like a... : kingdepork
          • Agreed, at least for the original meaning of emo. Hundred Reasons ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuntrA... : rock elf
          • Using the word "emo" as an actual genre of music is fucking stupid because everyone sees it as an insult ... : Zek
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        No, I dont like them, but they aren't emo. Hawthorne Heights is emo. Avenged Sevenfold is heavy metal or ... : ArcKnight
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          we used to call that nu metal : umegastar
          • I prefer "terrible" : zerog83
        • They are definitely not heavy metal. Maybe to angst ridden 17 to 21 year olds but nobody else. They play ... : Phreakin
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  The best part of this news is that we won't have to suffer their fifth album. : IndigoAK
  • lol : nyranger66
• I'm not a big Avenged Sevenfold fan, but if there's one thing I like about that band is the drums. That g... : thecray
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  Uhhh guys wearing makeup was gay in the 70s and 80s. I thought we killed that trend in the 90s...they lo... : Jimbo Ro
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    pics of you please : moshman
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      http://tonicgossip.com/wp-content/adam-lambert-2.jpg I'm so straight! : Jimbo Ro
      • hot : moshman
• I think they were friends since high school. :/ : melt_core
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  Whats with all this natural causes bull shit? I WANT my rock stars dead of drug over doses, high speed ca... : theghostofsmdever
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    heroin is natural, right? : drucifer
    • Its not magical, or is it? : handofthrawn
  • Well they couldn't rightly put 'Autoasphixyation' after the Caradine fiasco. : jasoncrowley
  • Tragedy today, as former President Gerald Ford was eaten by wolves. He was delicious. : lolpatrol
  • Ya no shit. Nobody dies in their late twenties from natural causes. : Phreakin
  • "I got some hendrix, some joplin, mama cass, The Reverend ; all artists that asphyxiated on their own vom... : flagg209
• Does this mean we'll be spared future albums? : Lone Swordsman
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  One less doper stealing my oxygen... : usmcmueller
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    Yeah that shit is in short supply. : theghostofsmdever
    • What, you think it just grows on trees? : loboca
    • lol I actually had a biology professor argue that we would run out of oxygen before water or any other na... : freakynipples69
• If it's drugs, oh well. It's a blessing in disguise cause this band sucks. : freakynipples69
• as a drummer, he was great; unfortunate death. : varsindarkin

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  ya know, im having way more fun on the pc than i did on the ps3. i probably just didnt give it enough ti... : smacknca
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    Yeah, the controls for the car annoyed me at first, but I've grown to like it quite a bit now. Being abl... : Zakko
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      I thought the handling in the cars was practically perfect. Basically you have to actually brake ahead o... : soggybagel
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        heh man it might help if i actually used the brake sometimes. when i want to go fast, im all about hood ... : smacknca
        • I never ever use the ebrake in that game. It ends up being faster just to slow down to a corner as oppos... : soggybagel
        • Oh yes, regular brake before a turn is a must if you're not just showboating. It's the fastest way to ge... : Zakko
• Best part of playing it on the PC. Videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zjp4NihzWII I made this the o... : stelth
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  It's a step back from SA, but it's still a great step in the series. The DLC totally makes that game perf... : ateam311
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    I never played SA, it had 'stats' that you had to train up to improve like how fast you could run or some... : Nixx2004
    • The stats in SA were a non-issue, really. Just a little detail on the side but not something that got in ... : nudel
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    I saw it as a step back in a good way. GTA: SA was getting a bit crazy with all the extra fluff. Not th... : pigvomit
    • I didn't mean to paint such a broad stroke over the game. I agree with trimming the fat off on things lik... : ateam311
    • I found maintaining relationships in GTA IV annoying towards the end I just didn't bother replying to any... : Pettytheft
  • Agreed, SA is awesome. The biggest problem is that GTA4 went all serious compared to the GTA3 trilogy. : cltcprd
• I've been playing it constantly since the Steam sale. : Rag and Bone Man
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  The most suprising thing about GTA4 is the story and characters, i freakin' love it. Most games these day... : thewindcriesmary
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    Yeah the story is really good, but it clashes so much with the whole madcap go aaround town chased by the... : SpaecKow
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      ROMANNNN, FUCKKK UUUU infact the dude reminds me of Roman from high school, the kid who got bashed out... : thewindcriesmary
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        That dude was a bitch. And his cousin was a bitch too, Amed. Me and Geoffrey rolled Amed in 7th grade ... : SpaecKow
        • hahaa oh my god fucking Amed what a douche, now geoffry was a pussy but the dude could be tough when he w... : thewindcriesmary
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  My game looks like I'm playing through a thatched screen. How do I fix this? 8800 gt + Q6600 :[ : R@zzle
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    Turn shadows up, they look like ass on anything but high. : thewindcriesmary
    • Ah thanks I'll do that. : R@zzle
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  Those of you who like the GTA4 story should definitely play both expansions. Lost and Damned is incredib... : Judecca
  • If they would release them for PC I would be happy to give them my moneys. : Sapiens
  • I loved the ballad of gay tony, so much fun and quite a bit better than lost and damned imo : moshman
  • I am playing Episodes Disc right now and it's fantastic so far. : enyakk
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  I agree, but it was almost unplayable on 360. Never broke 25fps (pal) and the controls were horribly brok... : batkiwi
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    I never had any fps problems with the full game, but both The Lost and Damned and Gay Tony seem very slug... : thecray
    • especially lost and damned really got me sometimes with the fps, gay tony was better : moshman
  • I had no issues at all playing GTA 4 and TLAD on my 360. I still have to get the ballad of gay tony thou... : FormerHPB
• It's fucking stunning when everything is turned up. I would kill to have a Batman game in a living world ... : Godhatesfatpeople
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  I'm debating, should I get a wireless 360 controller to play this on the PC? How are the controls? : aethyr
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    Fuck that. This game plays great with a keyboard and mouse. : Jimbo Ro
    • excellent, I bought it from steam, but haven't installed it yet, I've been playing Torchlight. : aethyr
  • I played through the whole thing using keyboard/mouse on-foot and 360controller while driving : Draugluin
• Yeah, it's a great game. I had it for the 360 but quit playing after just a few hours in: The FPS was shi... : ramshot
• For whatever reason (maybe how you have to put up with mission intros every single time you retry them), ... : Milleh
• Hands down my favorite game of 2009. : atom519
• Fun right up until your cell phone rings for the first time. Then its all down hill from there. : Thornfist
• playing Assassin's Creed 2 has been so much more satisfying than GTA4 was.. they are VERY similar games, ... : ThrillKill
• i'll have to try it again on my new pc...when i build it :( the game chugs pretty hard when a handful ... : ass-street

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• L4D vs people, come after you're done! : _jon
• 10 on office awwww yeah bump : _jon
• GO GO GO !!! : ass-street
• be there in amoment : eeeealmo
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  all aboard the snake rope train!!! 12 shackers on de_train : _jon
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    _jon do you even have a snake rope? : Dschinghis Khan
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      i have several, thank you : _jon
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        pics, i don't believe you. : Dschinghis Khan
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          http://www.shackpics.com/files/snakerope_2l0aimxqrmz9t7mh0ys6.jpg : _jon
          • lol! : Dschinghis Khan
      • Are they ropes made from snakes or snakes made from ropes? : J4NUS
• cbble can be so much fun. don't you think? join us won't you? : ass-street
• 13 on cbibblybibble! : _jon
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  i JUST RAGEQUIT : sparkly
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    A ragequit? Playing CS:S? No way! I don't believe it. : Dschinghis Khan
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      I rage tk'd my team and deleted the game then Maddog told me I was banned from the server for that stunt.... : sanchez
      • hahahahaha! I'm sure you're all torn up about that, aren't you? : Dschinghis Khan
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  12 on italy! woo wee : ass-street
  • 15 now! : ass-street
• good games everyone, was fun : tfsbrian
• 14 on italy!!! : _jon
• 12 on havana!? : ass-street
• havana is going to kill the game : _jon
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  going to ass salt! : _jon
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    good going ass salt...killed the servar! : ass-street
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      voted for nuke every time! we got snake rope'd into havana and assault though. : _jon
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        if you really want to know what killed the server, it started with Jackass teamkilling Maddog : _jon
        • yeah that wasn't very cool : deject
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          q.q. more. We were dicking around on havana, a horrible map waiting for people to RTV so we could get to ... : Jackass1233
          • rabble rabble I don't like the map so I will ruin it for everyone else : deject
          • ok, I will. it was you : _jon
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  no one messaged me on steam you all suck :( : mysled
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    aren't you in the steam group? : _jon
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      oh, I don't think I am actually! can you hook me up with an invite tomorrow? : mysled
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        invites sent : _jon
        • also you wouldn't have been the only girl playing tonight....there was a LunarMoonPoop in attendance scre... : _jon
  • You should be in the Steam group if you are not already! : Orange Pylon
  • You didn't get the Soup's Hot messages from the Steam group? : Sailor of Fortune
• would love invite to steamgroup /bonger : bongturbo

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  At the top you'll see more options when you hit ESC. I think it might be Page Up/Page Down to go through... : Matt Burris
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    Had hit hit F1 a few times. Wow, horrible UI so far, there was no clue that hitting F1 would bring up the... : Nixx2004
    • Yeah, it's pretty crazy. Wait til you figure out how to make the submenu open while driving to do multip... : Matt Burris
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      You shouldn't be playing a racing game with a fucking keyboard anyways. : IndigoAK
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        That's one of the reasons I needed to get to the options menu...trying to see if my wheel (which doesn't ... : Nixx2004
        • I should have made sure my wheel still worked before buying it. Damn. : Nixx2004
    • Honestly the menu system in the game is the worst part, everything else is fine. The NUMPAD menu is somet... : MercFox1
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  Worst game I ever bought for x360 : rosewood
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    rosewood what the fuck are you talking about : rudds
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      no shit, what's up with this chip throwing? Rosewood, please tell me you're getting it mixed up with t... : roushimsx
      • what was wrong with Burnout Revenge? :( : pandastrong
      • Hey bizarro roushi, WTF is wrong with Burnout Revenge? It is only about 395844848x more fun than Need for... : Mad Brahmin Disease
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        Burnout Revenge was the last real Burnout game. And it was awesome. : master_disaster_17
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          What? No. Burnout Dominator was the last real Burnout game. Burnout 3: Takedown was pretty awesome but a ... : roushimsx
          • If you wanna play that game, then Burnout Legends was the last real Burnout. Dominator was shitty. : Mad Brahmin Disease
          • Burnout 2 was the best burnout game. But they didn't completely lose their charm until Paradise. : master_disaster_17
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    You are kidding right? Either way.. they released a lot of free stuff that you might want to take a lo... : humbleone
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      Can I start a race over without driving around? If no, fuck that. : rosewood
      • On PC you can XD : MercFox1
      • Yep they added that now I afair : humbleone
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        That update came out over a year ago. : classicfork
        • WHAT. replay time. : deskill
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          Then I may give it a go. When I bought it at release it was unplayable. Every fucking race I was ending u... : rosewood
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            and you know what, there were a dozen different events for you to do in Hoboken. Not being able to restar... : Degenerate
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              Burning routes. : deskill
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                as soon as you fuck up stop the car which will end the race and drive back to the start if you want to ke... : Degenerate
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                  Well if you made it 80% of the way then how is that any better? On the races you cant be sure your mishap... : deskill
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                    I understand peoples problem with it, I just think its completely blown out of proportion. : Degenerate
                    • Well.. the only logically conclusion is that you're more patient than I am. : deskill
            • Shit I didn't want to do like a katamari roll Honestly it was so long ago that I don't remember all the ... : rosewood
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      Can you change cars without driving to a fucking junkyard yet? Or skip the SUPER AWESOME CRASH SLOW-MO d... : fishbone
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        That slow-mo is your punishment for fucking up. They cannot just drop you right back on the road immediat... : Evil Benius
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          Yeah heaven forbid a video game not punish me. How about my punishment is all the jackasses that whiz by... : fishbone
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            The time it takes for that animation to play is those people whizzing passed you. It is either you see th... : Evil Benius
            • The animation plays in slow-motion, and the cars whiz by me in slow-motion. Show me the crash at normal ... : fishbone
  • One of the best I ever bought, tons of extra dlc they released for free and Im not even into racing games... : Unleashed
  • you must buy some really great games then : pandastrong
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    You must've not played Dead Space and Assassin's Creed 2 then. : Matt Burris
    • Dead Space was fantastic : MagicWishMonkey
    • Why would I waste my money on games I know I won't like? : rosewood
    • uhhhh what is going on here : Downforce
    • Dead Space is one of the few games I'll play in my finicky old age. Awesome game. : devi| dog
  • I loved it. The big open world, plenty of things to do, dizzying speeds and awesome crashes. : Dave-A
  • I agree rosewood. I regretted buying it about a week after paying full price at release. For cheap, it m... : slickdoody
  • not my kind of game. Only racers I'd play would be Forza. : shirif
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    This is so patently wrong, even on an objective scale. : Deathlove
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      You're the best... at being a big jerk who's stupid and your big ugly face is as dumb as a butt! : slickdoody
      • D: : Deathlove
  • your crazy : jonin
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    jesus christ. holy shit. : EvilDolemite
    • hahaha : contentious roy
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    Were you playing on an SD CRT TV at release? That's the only reason I can think of for Burnout Paradise b... : Cliffzorz
    • Oh good lord no : rosewood
  • it's ok guys i banned him : pupismyname
  • Maybe not the worst. But I definately struggled to get any enjoyment out of it. I felt it was a massive s... : marmite
  • They took the best bits from takedown then decided nobody Should have them. Should have seen it coming ... : Beady
  • How does it feel to be broken? : Arctic Fox
  • I really enjoyed it except for suffering through GnR every time I started it up. : DonkeyPopsicle
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  Does SAITEK not exist anymore? Can't get any of their websites to work. http://www.saitekusa.com/ work... : Nixx2004
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    They got bought out by Mad Katz a few years ago :'( : roushimsx
    • And the link to SAITEK from http://www.madcatz.com/ is saitekusa.com and it still doesn't work. WTF. : Nixx2004
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    saitek.com has a hit under google, cached on the 21st. Looks like the site is having issues. There are dr... : ryuuseki
    • I was being kind of paranoid about downloading and installing something from one of those driver websites... : Nixx2004
  • The reason I wanted SAITEK was because this says the R440 driver could be modified to work with the Force... : Nixx2004
• Well looks like my wheel won't work, so gonna play some with keyboard. Is there no way to set the came... : Nixx2004
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  does the MS x360 wheel work with the pc if you get that x360 wireless dongle controller thingowhatsit ? : CoRDS
  • Not sure, but my Rock Band drums work in Fruity Loops with it. : CrabsJarrard
  • No force feedback. :( Everything else works though. : TrptJim
• Having to sit through long intros is annoying. I'm looking at you Fallout 3 and Batman AA. : mobab
• I bought it today and probably played for 2-3 hours. It's pretty decent but I'm kind of getting bored wit... : Blackdawgg
• Any idea on how to add friends on the pc version of Burnout paradise? FYI if anyone wants to add me and... : baron calamity
• I just played for the first time and couldn't actually figure out how to exit the game. I can't recall ev... : Marlin
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  Burnout paradise should be goty every year since it's been released. : batkiwi
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    It was my GotY in 2008. I own all three versions. : IndigoAK
    • I have xbox with all the dlc. They gave away SO much free dlc (bikes ffs!) that I felt obligated to buy a... : batkiwi
• Have you tried Down, Down, Left, Right, A+B, Start+Select+X ? : capt tripps
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  Damn, fuck EA. Trying to log in with an old account. Still have the email account, so was able to rese... : Nixx2004
  • The system thay have for managing their accounts is really horrid. Try getting into the C&C4 beta. log ... : capt tripps
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  I think I'm spoiled by GTA 4. Missing some of the stuff in it. No radio stations, just a big list of s... : Nixx2004
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    Is there no way to see the full map? Got a long complex race, want to get the general idea which way I wa... : Nixx2004
    • Ahh, stupid F1 again. : Nixx2004
    • You should be able to pause the game and pull up a full map. I know in the 360 version I did this all the... : sigpro
    • Try the M key, you know, for Map. : MercFox1
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    But the driving in gta 4 was so broken as to be worthless. The entire time playing gta4 I wished they'd j... : batkiwi
    • I like driving in GTA 4. : Nixx2004
    • Broken? WTF. It sounds like you don't understand the concepts of braking and grip. :) GTA games don't ... : nudel
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  I just wasted my whole night paying it. The menus are annoying for the first time you have to load them a... : re-verse
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    It is fairly fun, but pretty easy really, even with keyboard controls. Maybe it'll get harder once I g... : Nixx2004
    • ah yeah. difficulty just kind of goes up and up and up and up over time. the later burning laps are kind ... : xsoulbrothax

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• stole this list from: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=383427 : irrerno
• Only really interest in the first and last two personally. That's not to shit on the PS3, just a lot of t... : node
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  A whole bunch of those are for 2011... : chazums
  • I noticed that too. Out of the entire list maybe 40% will probably be out in 2010 : Sludgehead
  • hahahah I know, wtf? : Milleh
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  I'm going to buy the ever loving fuck out of Yakuza 3. I can not wait. : roushimsx
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    Yeah, subtitles too! Thank fuck, about time. : node
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      I'm still a little bummed the second game didn't sell better given how fucking awesome it was :( : roushimsx
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        I didn't get it because it was late in the PS2 cycle with no component support so kinda looked like ass o... : node
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          Yakuza 2 had no dub. It was straight up subtitles and retailed for $30 when it was brand spankin' new. : roushimsx
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            Oh nice! You're right.I might pick it up cheap then, but prog scan. :( : node
            • at least it has native 16:9 support! ...and if you've played the first game and saw parts of the city ... : roushimsx
• I want a single player game set in the Warhawk universe. I've always thought the game's mechanics would ... : IndigoAK
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  3D Dot Heroes is the one I'm the most excited about. : Kniggit
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    I'm excited enough about that to possibly spend full price on it :( : roushimsx
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      I get the feeling if I don't buy it at release, I may have trouble getting my hands on a copy =/ : Kniggit
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        I kind of feel the same way :( On one hand, I'd really rather wait for the price to drop. On the other... : roushimsx
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          it's releasing at a budget price. $40. : Borzoi
          • It's sad that $40 is the "budget" tier :( It's on the extreme end for what I'll pay for a new game th... : roushimsx
  • Really? I mean, it looks vaguely entertaining....but incredibly mindless. It reminds me far too much of t... : Vincent Grayson
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  I didn't see White Knight Chronicles on there - I believe that's an exclusive too : flagg209
  • from what I've read it's mediocre. maybe not as bad as Infinite Undiscovery but not good either. : Shai-Tan
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  out of the actual 2010 titles, there's 2 anyone really will care about, and only 1 of those for me. The ... : jimmy_legs
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    I don't think there's anything there that's really stroking my game boner :( : Dave-A
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      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYUejiOMbvU&fmt=22 : roushimsx
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        i stand corrected :O : Dave-A
        • lol at Karaoke mini-game. also the main dude looks like a cross between Tommy Vercetti and Jann Lee from ... : Dave-A
• I've been playing around with the Mod Nation beta a little bit, and I'm disappointed in what I've seen. C... : Head Rush
• This list is retarded. Half of these games probably won;t even be exclusive by the time they come out in ... : JohnnyRey
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  MAG is going to flop. Nothing I've seen or read about that game is promising. : pandastrong
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    I deleted the beta after playing it for an hour... : Shai-Tan
    • I saw a lot of similar impressions, so I never even bothered to install it. : pandastrong
  • The beta was god awful :( : Milleh
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  I hope in Uncharted 3 they finally learn that their combat is awful. UC2 improved it a bit with the steal... : Zek
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    Really? I thought it was pretty much perfect in UC2. I hated how hard it was to kill people in UC1, but i... : Vincent Grayson
    • They made the normal enemies a little more reasonable but in exchange they threw in a bunch of those assh... : Zek
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    The game you described would be fucking horrible in an Uncharted setting. : treefingers1
    • I don't think so, I always had fun climbing around looking for openings to grab somebody, doing ledge tak... : Zek
  • I hope not. Stealth is cool, and I like the way you could usually sneak around and take out a few people ... : uncleanmonkey
  • I like the combat. Movement is actually important unlike Halo or Gears where its like moving a tank. As f... : Shai-Tan
• Basically the only ones that even register a mild interest for me are GOW3 and Heavy Rain, and I'm pretty... : uncleanmonkey
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  Definitely buying FFXIII...the rest of the 2010 ones are rentals though. I love GoW, but after only playi... : Vincent Grayson
  • oops. A game as short as they tend to be. I expect Heavy Rain will be awesome as well, but it'll be a ... : Vincent Grayson
• Heavy Rain and The Last guardian for me. KTHXBYE : Frank_Mackey
• Don't forget L.A. Noire! Although who knows if that will ever come out. : pimpium

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  sold out? : themaestro2657
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    sold out. : yacoub35
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      They ran out of keys. : capt tripps
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        You sound like George Costanza's parents. : dodob
        • haha. : usmcmueller
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  How can it be sold out? : ArtilleryMarker
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    cd keys :-/ I wonder how many they sold... : Lionel2b
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      all of them : capt tripps
      • touche : Cheeziologist
      • holy shit you must be right : Lionel2b
• search locash's post history, he just explained it : manero
• fuckin sell outs : Audhuml4
• Too bad, I was thinking of buying it. : Ride-My-Rocket
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  Sold out. Wow. Has that ever happened before on Steam? : David Craddock
  • I'm pretty sure it happened last time Prey was on a major sale too. They must get sent 10 keys each year ... : MeestaNob
  • The Unreal Pack during last year's Christmas sale was temporarily sold out. : The Grolar Bear
  • yes, during the first day of the sale one of the games sold out I think. Don't remember the name. : sharpie
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    yes happened a lot. With Ut3 & mount and blade last winter sale, Clear Sky, and other times. : shirif
    • The difference being that Clear Sky stayed on sale, the message said that the copies won't work until the... : Durajim
  • It was amazing when it happened to Company of Heroes IIRC. So many people with angst : Sailor of Fortune
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    Yes, it has, with Quake 3, I believe. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • No, it was one of the Unrel games. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• WHAT?! Im mad. I was gonna get that game. FFFFUUUU : President Robert E. Lee
• Just curious, but would you guys still buy the game now if they promised to send you a key via email late... : onji
• Sorry, I got the last copy. : cygnus
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  Why do you even need a cd key on Steam? What? : Geoffrois
  • Most likely for MP. : RookieCAF
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    Every game you buy comes with a cdkey. It's just kind of automatically entered already. Some games will... : ImageOmega
    • many third party games sold on steam come with cd keys. valve games that you purchase through the steam s... : mXENO
• u in LA? You can come have mine. : Cygnus X-1
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  But now there's Bioshock for $5! I'd turn that frown upside down. : MisterClaw
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    If you didn't already buy Bioshock :/ : Cottc Cid
    • Of course, the same argument could be made for Prey, or almost any non-recent game. : David Craddock
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    prey > bioshock : shirif
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      very incorrect by all accounts : EvilDolemite
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        you spelled correct inccorectly. : shirif
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          And...scene. : RomSteady
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            he didn't say scene at all. : jamesray
            • He must have not seen what he wrote. : repeat2k
        • I realize the meta-ness of this :(, but logged off to sleep. : shirif
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      lol so wrong Prey was way to easy with its death system : Iwannaacura
      • haha I hope this is a subtle joke because the same thing could be said about Bioshock. : NastyJack
      • It's not that different from Halo/Call of Duty. But instead of staying in cover to recover your health yo... : GodZilly
      • its not like any other game is different. except instead of the spirit world its... saved games. the spir... : shaq_mobile
    • Uhhh... : nevlos
    • look at how wrong you are : deject
    • lol : NastyJack
    • Nice try. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • Indeed. Bioshock was a boring game. The shooting mechanics were bland, and the RPG elements even weaker... : Jimbo Ro
    • lolling this : askedrelic
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      Agreed. Bioshock was quite boring. It ranks right up there with Far Cry in terms of overhyped crap. : Zips
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        Bwahahaha : Mad Brahmin Disease
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          Oh do tell what you found to be so funny. : Zips
          • But the critics LOVED IT! : Jimbo Ro
          • All of it! : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • Both games were only okay. I'd put Bioshock ahead because the art design is fantastic, even if the game d... : Vincent Grayson
    • This is true : xxx2xxx
    • how can I LOL this entire subthread....jesus christ : niceguynick
    • prey was was the superior shooter, the gameplay more fun. bioshock tried rpg/fps and failed in both regar... : Hoax
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      the Darkness >> Prey there I fixed it for you : BigT
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        Both bored the shit out of me. Prey had a great beginning. Almost like 3dr wanted to give us a little d... : kingdepork
        • yeah it did feel a little messy, didnt it? : shaq_mobile
        • It almost felt like the developer released it wayyy too early. The guns felt like shit. No satisfaction... : kingdepork
        • I enjoyed the game overall but it would've been a classic if the whole game had held the same standard as... : Marrbe
• unpossible : CRasterImage
• Made out like a bandito today, picked up prey before it sold out, then got in on bioshock goodness. : shaffe
• Holy Shit! : Malku
• Buy it at GoGamer for around the same price and add the key to Steam. That's what I did. : melkore
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  Steam should have made an iPhone app for purchasing of games. : Sailor of Fortune
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    I believe it's called safari : aeg1x
    • Yup, I bought Zombie Driver on iPhone Safari jsut fine. : node
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  So pc games make no money? : madspacemarinemustdie
  • jesus christ what the fuck is this : synapse19
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  prey is probably my least favorite game ever. Why play a game if you can never lose at all? : Benefit
  • As opposed to every other game where you save and just re-loads when you die? Give me a break, it's all t... : JohnnyRey
  • I bet you never unlocked 99 lives in Contra. : loboca
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    A STRANGE GAME. THE ONLY WAY TO LOSE IS NOT TO PLAY. : dirge23
    • Fuck it, do you want to play some chess? At least there I can beat your ass. : Ride-My-Rocket
• Prey was a damn fine game. Short, sweet and man those gravity walks. And he swore a lot !! : ghost hacker