Morning Discussion

by Alice O'Connor, Dec 28, 2009 5:00am PST

It truly is the most wonderful time of the year. Friends and family gather round, feasts are held three days in a row and there's enough half-melted refrozen snow slush for you to feel some kind of victory. Unless, of course, so much flu courses through your veins that even your sloshed uncle is more alert, stabler and a better conversationalist than you.

I ended up mostly playing King's Bounty: Armored Princess. It's fun. That's my review.

I've tried almost every potion, poultice, syrup, pill, powder, lozenge and tincture under the sun, all to no avail. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it'll be a cold day in Walthamstow before I let Kwanzaa be ruined too so if I'm not on the mend by tomorrow it'll be the ole Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap. Dilute! Dilute! O.K.!

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Can we talk about World of Warcraft for a little while? Good. Let's do it in reply.

Dec 28, 2009 7:57am PST

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Can we talk about World of Warcraft for a little while? Good. Let's do it in reply. : Rotten Deadite
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  I've just about earned my Pug pet from doing random dungeons with my Paladin main, almost always as Retri... : Rotten Deadite
  - just the players you're playing with. Top dps meters are usually hunters, and rogues for single target f... : ant321
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    I gave up on my rogue because the class just seems weaksauce since... well, ever since Burning Crusade's ... : code-e255
    - If we're talking BC numbers, i have to disagree. Back then i was still playing, as well as spectating a ... : sreyes22
    - If a rogue is getting beat on the meters by someone with equal gear then that rogue has issues : AllYourBase
    - Rogue has been extremely good almost all of Wrath, regularly topping meters. : Chod
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    When it comes to healing/tanking and since you are Pugging it you are probably playing with random bads.. : Iwannaacura
    - Not all PUG players are bad. I met a few very competent and friendly players through the new dungeon find... : code-e255
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    They have been "balancing" the classes for a LONG time. Rogues do more burst damage than sustained anymo : Salad Sammich
    - I noticed something very similar happening with LotRO when I played it, although it exists in WoW to a mu... : Supine
    - I think their removal of "pure" class roles was one of their best balance decisions so far. Having one cl... : Zek
  - Are you dropping bosses? That's all you can ask from a PUG. If people aren't face-melting or topping reco... : tashtego
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    I've noticed that many players (espeically DPS) are simply lazy and do not care about improving. I think... : atom519
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      It's also got a lot to do with the fact that you can now get Tier 9 without getting good. I freely admit... : Rotten Deadite
      
      Agree completely. Part of me likes it (because I no longer have the 20hours a week to commit to raiding)... : atom519
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      i am leveling a warlock and i only just figured out (level 36ish) that i should be distributing my dots a... : cpt_gloval
      
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      we're talking about level 80 players with heroic-level gear. if they haven't figured it out by then, the... : electroly
      
      Dude, Hunters get all the way up to 80 without ever using Misdirection or even a trap. : Rotten Deadite
      
      for reals : cpt_gloval
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    I'd say its more the player than the class. My main is a balance druid (FAT OWL) and when we have one rog... : squigiliwams
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      Shield Block w/ Damage Shield is also pretty great for AOE threat. : acidnynex
      
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      Its required for sure, gives that extra stickyness that can make or break a pull. I'd like to see numb : squigiliwams
      
      You left out Shield Block again. :p 100% block chance w/ 100% increased block value = Win. : acidnynex
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    I feel like my AoE threat has taken a hit with the reworked AoE damage caps with 3.3 playing as a bear. M... : SilverSnake
    - The trash pulls in ICC own for ret pali's, everything is undead and SoC rapes. There was 2 ret pali's in... : dmaownsyou
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    Hi, welcome to playing the pet class of the WoW Devs. I hope you enjoy your free IWIN button. Thank you... : Hizzow
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      I seem to recall the cries of LOLADIN. Oh how times have changed. : squigiliwams
      
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      Even back in vanilla they were a bit overpowered. I don't think I ever won a fight against a pally one on... : acidnynex
      
      But at least their damage kinda sucked back then. As a rogue, I always just ran away from pesky loladins ... : code-e255
      
      Bubble, full heal, repeat, throw a LayonHands, then finally just bubblehearth : Iwannaacura
      
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      The problem was that the power wasn't immediately obvious to the n00bs the class was designed for, so the : Rotten Deadite
      
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      But at the same time, the example that got quoted most often by Whineadins was a good one: If your main : Rotten Deadite
      
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      i just got the legendary from ragnaros. lol : xxiv
      
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      I've got a question about doing MC in modern gear: how many people does it take, minimum, to do the MC co... : Rotten Deadite
      
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      like 5 : electroly
      
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      So I assume the bosses like Golemagg that used to require off-tanks are no longer an issue? : Rotten Deadite
      
      You can solo Golemagg. : electroly
      
      It can be solo'd by several classes if you have the right gear. I'd say any boss in MC can be duo'd by a ... : Gnowknayme
      
      those cries only came about because the devs broke their IWIN button. but that has since been rectified.... : Hizzow
      
      Did anyone play a Pally in beta then started one on release? Total change from the end of beta to releas... : Derringer
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      Seems to me, from a Paladin perspective, that Druids (and to a lesser degree Shamans) always seemed the "... : Rotten Deadite
      
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      Druids were ridiculously broken up until BC. They're good now, but I still remember the day of a 9/11/31 ... : Cihte
      
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      druids were very powerful in vanilla pvp : dewdman
      
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      Not really. : Cihte
      
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      lol maybe against mages... and rogues, if we had enough armor. : Cihte
      
      druids were the king of 1v1 and world pvp. The best PvP'ers were often druids. It all came down to player... : dewdman
      
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      not to mention, feral DPS is probably the most difficult to master. I do think, however, that the dev... : Cihte
      
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      Could you maybe instead do something about all the God Damn Hunters? : Rotten Deadite
      
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      What about all the god damned death knights? : zombie man
      
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      For all the Hunters on all the servers, there's still more DKs and Paladins. But I'll be damned if those... : Rotten Deadite
      
      It's the pet. I think we'd agree that players attracted to the Pokemon aspect of the game might not be q... : Clasifyd
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      Again, his info is based on 5 man content, which is currently incredibly easy with the ilvls we are at no... : dmaownsyou
      
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      There does seem to be this trend towards Cleave-esque and AoE boss abilities that make melee DPS hate lif... : Rotten Deadite
      
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      Agreed, I was scratching my head with the stamina changes. Melee should have more stamina as we are stan... : dmaownsyou
      
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      We'll see how well it works out. It struck me as a kind of half-baked idea. I understand they want to change the PvP dynamic so that anyone who can pew-pew can't take a hit so good. The Glass Cannon analogy makes a lot of sense when it comes to class balance.
      
      If I can get the jump on a Mage and one-shot him, I'd better have a damn hard time getting to him. But at the same time, he shouldn't be able to one-shot me the second he spots me from 40 yards away.
      
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      We'll see how well it works out. It struck me as a kind of half-baked idea. I understand they want to c... : Rotten Deadite
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    Unless the rogue is from your server, the dps meters are going to be inaccurate (unless they fixed it som... : Home Nugget
    - That assumes you're trying to sync the data, I have lazy sync off in Recount as it can cause game crashes... : acidnynex
  - Most hybrid classes are still within 5% of dps classes, and this is when both classes are played to their : acidnynex
  - Warrior and Druid tanks *can* tank large groups effectively, but it takes a lot more skill on the tank's ... : genom
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    It's posts like this that make me so happy I don't play wow. : re-verse
    - Well, to be fair, I'm assuming that what I'm seeing isn't actually representative of the current state of... : Rotten Deadite
  - Honestly I can't say I've had much trouble. There's the occasional crappy group here and there, but on t... : electroly
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    The rogues you are playing with are probably terrible. Mutilation rogues in raid settings generally dest... : johnny rotten
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      Exactly, here is an example of what mut rogues can do: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-woazd54wwf1esn4... : dmaownsyou
      
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      Yeah, I've been told about getting two rogues together in a group or raid. They supposedly turn into tag... : Rotten Deadite
      
      Yeah, depending on the fight we exchange tricks of the trade every time it is up. : dmaownsyou
  - i am an avid priest player. my main is shadow and i've been trying out my hand in a new realm with holy, ... : pointyelbows
  - All the tank classes are more or less the same milkshake but in slightly varying flavors/colors. They ea... : R@zzle
  - I wouldn't make comments about balance based on 5 mans personally. I also wouldn't make comments about ba... : -JLN-
  - Warriors currently have the best threat generation on single targets, while dk's, pali's and bears are al... : dmaownsyou
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    Most of the time you'll probably beat a decently geared Rogue on trash in a 5 man dungeon and sometimes b... : Senate5000
    - Maybe I'll try switching recount to only total on boss encounters and to ignore trash damage. That shoul... : Rotten Deadite
  - Yeah this is a bit silly. If a priest isn't the best healer your game is fucked, end of story. : the city
  - Rogues are pretty shitty DPS for most 5-mans. I lose about ~1k DPS when fighting trash, because it's not... : stoned wallaby crop circle
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  One thing I noticed about dungeon finder PUGs is that whenever shit hits the fan, people just leave the g... : code-e255
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    This, and you can semi-afk throughout the entire instance and not really care - since the odds of you see... : atom519
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      Pretty much every matchmaking game under the sun deals with this issue and the answer is penalties for le... : Zek
      
      You can't requeue for 15 minutes after zoning in. If you leave before that, you have to wait until the d... : electroly
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      Last night it happened. I saw the same tank twice. Unfortunately, it was a terribad tank that I had pre... : electroly
      
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      I had a Frost DK tell me that DnD was a waste of 3 runes. I nearly quit right there. I spent a lot of m... : Rotten Deadite
      
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      He sort of is right, as a frost dk pestillence and howling blast are really all you need in 5 mans. Of ... : dmaownsyou
      
      As frost tank, you shouldn't be using pest, but yeah.. HB, BB, BB should pretty much glue anything. : mace
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  I sure miss WoW being stuck for the holidays in Nowhere, Texas. I hope I get back in time to get my Red R... : Home Nugget
  - I destroyed it on the only character I bothered to loot presents on, I couldn't shoot anyone with it and ... : acidnynex
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  Priests just don't seem to be able to heal all that well anymore. Not when compared to Druids or Shamans. : LoioshDwaggie
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  HIJACK: Is there a strong alliance shack guild presence somewhere? I know Malganis is/was the defacto sha... : dewdman
- No. Don't. Bad Gamer. Bad. *rubs your nose in it* : Thornfist

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