Morning Discussion

by Alice O'Connor, Dec 28, 2009 5:00am PST

It truly is the most wonderful time of the year. Friends and family gather round, feasts are held three days in a row and there's enough half-melted refrozen snow slush for you to feel some kind of victory. Unless, of course, so much flu courses through your veins that even your sloshed uncle is more alert, stabler and a better conversationalist than you.

I ended up mostly playing King's Bounty: Armored Princess. It's fun. That's my review.

I've tried almost every potion, poultice, syrup, pill, powder, lozenge and tincture under the sun, all to no avail. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it'll be a cold day in Walthamstow before I let Kwanzaa be ruined too so if I'm not on the mend by tomorrow it'll be the ole Dr. Bronner's Magic Soap. Dilute! Dilute! O.K.!

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Just watched "Aliens".

I never liked female action heroes, as they always came off like some... I don't know. Just not cool, fake and smug. It always were overdone in my opinion, not only with heroes but also villains. Like that annoying uzi woman in underwear from The Transporter 2.

But Ripley, dayum sister, that was badass. The first female action hero I found truly awesome.

Dec 28, 2009 5:57am PST

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Just watched "Aliens". I never liked female action heroes, as they always came off like some... I don'... : The Future
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  She's not a tomboy, she's not a chick with guns.. she's just ripley. : Klebold
  - Yeah, she doesn't really fit in a classic mold anywhere, she's just who she is. : one random winner
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    She's definitely a tomboy, but that's a great thing. : Lone Swordsman
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      She has big poofy hair and wears panties, you've been hanging around the wrong guys. : Klebold
      
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      I don't think tomboys have to wear men's underwear... there's not like a list of prerequisites before you... : mikecyb
      
      I'd say she's more flipped off her rocker from the events aboard the Nostromo, and the mom-instinct once ... : cpt_gloval
      
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      A tomboy is just a girl who acts like one of the guys. You know, not afraid of pants and some heavy lift... : Lone Swordsman
      
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      correct. she is one. but it works, for once. : yacoub35
      
      I think it's just because her character isn't ridiculous. There are plenty of generic and horrible male ... : mikecyb
      
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      Yeah, like that female marine Marquez, or something, who has the swivel gun mounted to her waist. Now Tha... : Klebold
      
      i think it could be argued that Vasquez was more a stereotype of an '80s era lesbian than of a tomboy. : yacoub35
      
      Vasquez. They're both tomboys, both awesome. : Lone Swordsman
      
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      Hey Vasquez, have you ever been mistaken for a man? : c0bra
      
      No. Have you? : daneloire
      
      Vasquez was awesome. "You always were an asshole, Gorman." : Ride-My-Rocket
      
      FUN FACT- those guns are just mounted to Steadicams. : chrisschutz
      
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      It's not fair to say she "acts like one of the guys", the situation she was in called on her to do her sp... : ninjase
      
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      She is acting "masculine," though, insofar as she's aggressive, confident, avoiding frilly clothing and f... : Lone Swordsman
      
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      That is only because her survival depends on it in her current situation, not necesarily because it is an... : ninjase
      
      It was a component of her character when she was on the nostromo. How many chicks would be flying around ... : chrisschutz
      
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      the first three of those aren't particularly masculine unless you live in the 1800ds. : Megara9
      
      Cinematically they are! : Lone Swordsman
      
      Well, the film would've been pretty ridiculous if her hair was permed and she was running around in a fri... : Vincent Grayson
    - Vasquez is a tomboy : gmd
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  GET AWAY FROM HER YOU BITCH : Bamtan
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    Realizing that the queen got abord the ship has got to be one of the best movie moments of all time. : enyakk
    - yeah you pretty much thought the movie was over : gmd
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      And it's amazing how good the still Queen looks. No CG! : Godhatesfatpeople
      
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      Puppets have such a timeless quality if they are done right. : Fish_Bulb
      
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      What floors me about it today is how smooth it moves. I mean you'd think there was a giant dude ina suit... : Godhatesfatpeople
      
      Just like Meg Mucklebones in Legend. : Godhatesfatpeople
      
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      Was it Aliens 3 that had dudes in suits swimming? : Sailor of Fortune
      
      That was Alien Resurrection. : mathyou
  - That was so awesome. : The Future
  - In the theater, everyone started cheering at that point. I still think it's weird to watch the movie on D... : Bold
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    I'm pretty sure that's my favorite line in any movie ever. : Vincent Grayson
    - I cant think of any other movie that has more memorable one liners than Aliens. I cant think of any that... : johnny rotten
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  Go watch Alien, too, if you haven't watched that. : cerealSAM2
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    I have never made it through that entire movie. : Saman
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      How is that possible? : Lone Swordsman
      
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      I really don't know, I always fall asleep. : Saman
      
      A shame. It's really a piece of cinema magic. : zuff
      
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      I would think the screaming and loud music would wake you up. : Lone Swordsman
      
      Maybe he has a sleeping disorder, you insensitive bastard! : Arceihn
      
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      Well, it's not an action movie. It's a well paced horror movie, from back when horror movies didn't alwa... : cerealSAM2
      
      Yeah, but all you need is one loud scream or note to wake you up. : Lone Swordsman
      
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      It's amazing. Like The Thing, it takes itself completely seriously, going at a slow, almost reverential ... : eldersveld
      
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      Yeah. It's either over-the-top action or M. Night Shmalayan... one lame extreme or the other. : cerealSAM2
      
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      Certain things jump out - like the average age of the cast. No sexy twenty-somethings strutting around h : eldersveld
      
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      I think you just managed to make me appreciate that movie for the first time in my life. : Marauder IIC
      
      I overestimated - it's more like 20 seconds, but that's still a long time: http://www.youtube.com/watc... : eldersveld
      
      I do the same thing with Blade Runner. I think it's a problem with Ridley Scott in general, however I lov... : c0bra
      
      Thought I was the only one. I've tried to watch Alien once and it just couldn't keep my attention. Aliens... : David Craddock
      
      jesus christ : EvilDolemite
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    Of course I watched Alien too, that was some time ago though. I now want to watch 3 and 4. : The Future
    - 4>3, but neither comes close to Aliens (which I enjoyed more than Alien, though that's much better than 3... : zipr
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      don't listen to anyone. alien 3 and 4 are both awesome. : ass-street
      
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      3 is awesome, 4 is okay up until the albino alien, which wrecks everything. : cerealSAM2
      
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      i didn't like the albino the first time i saw it but upon reviewing i've decided that it is pretty cool. : ass-street
      
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      That's the drugs and booze talking.
      
      Dec 28, 2009 8:25am PST
      
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      That's the drugs and booze talking. : cerealSAM2
      
      no it was actually the assholes talking throughout the movie when i saw it in the theatre that ruined it ... : ass-street
      
      The Directors Cut version they released on DVD not so much ago is actually very very good - much better t... : excessus
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      Nooooo. Don't sully your memories. : Lone Swordsman
      
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      4 is craptastic, but the special/director/whatever cut of 3 has its moments. Not a bad movie in its own ... : Johnny Law
      
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      If you're a fan of Jeunet you'll like 4. I think it's a really interesting movie to watch in that it's su... : chrisschutz
      
      It seemed that 4 was at least an attempt to take the tired series in a new direction. If I remember corr... : zipr
      
      yea, make sure that you see the directors cut of 3 : MrBig0
- Nice. I have the DVD ready. Hopefully watching it tomorrow night. Such a great movie. : Bull
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  You can stop watching movies now. Its all down hill from here. : GloriousCow
  - Yes, sharply downhill. Lower your expectations if you insist on watching 3 and 4. : afty04
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  I always thought that she would make a good Samus in a Metroid movie. : DM7
  - Yeah, her acting as far as that's concerned is perfect although I think her appearance is all wrong. : one random winner
- It just works without it seeming like she's got something to prove as a woman. : Marrbe
- "...and they mostly come out at night.......mostly". : warcrow
- Ripley is definitely the foremost female action hero. Another good one is Angela Bassett in Strange Days.... : el_bandito
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  James Cameron does a good job of creating good female characters. Ripley, Sarah Connor, etc. : riptyde
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    He does this so he can sleep with the actresses. : K0LM
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      i'm pretty sure he could accomplish the same thing with shitty female characters : qwpeoriu
      
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      "in this scene your character has died and been rebuilt with the body parts of several new jersey prostit : skryte
      
      "Yeah, well...Steve said your arm gets tired..." : AxeMan808
      
      Well he did use Michelle Rodriguez.... God I hate her. Always the first to die at the Halo 2 bridge level... : kagath
    - Whatever it takes : rosewood
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    Ridley Scott worked on Ripley first. : SnakeIRye
    - Yeah but in the first one she certainly wasn't some pissed off badass that duct-taped a machine gun and f... : riptyde
    - So RS was banging her first, so what? : X-GOUKI
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  The reason why Ripley works so well as a character is because they didn't write it as "she's a woman who'... : ninjase
  - If they rewrote her character today, she'd make witty jokes about Aunt Irma, have a deadbeat ex-husband t... : trove
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    well, she did get all mommy & me with Newt, but it didn't hurt the story or anything. : edgewise
    - I'd say it's absolutely essential to the story. It completely sets up the final conflict. : filtersweep
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      That isn't exclusive to her being a woman though; a male ripley could have also done the same (it may hav... : ninjase
      
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      Yeah, and in fact the father-protecting-son dynamic has worked in other films, like Terminator : Megara9
      
      he was a pedo-bot. : edgewise
  - When they wrote the script they didn't specify Ripley's gender. : inchwide
- Agreed, it's one of the few female action babes I can buy. : themaestro2657
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  anyone else notice the final fight in Avatar had the same sort of drum beat from Aliens when ripley climb... : stgdz
  - i noticed this on my second viewing, and I think I heard the same trumpets too. : darcspeed
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  did you watch the director's cut with the 20 mins extra footage? : m0rfus
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    I hope not. Theatrical release version > director's cut : Frank_Mackey
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  "JUST WATCHED?" damn, talk about late to the party. I think I was 8 when I saw it back in the 80s : X-GOUKI
  - Yeah...just curious, how old are you (The Future)? : Nixx2004
- One of my favorite movies of all times, the sounds of their guns will forever be in my head : sreyes22
- I thought Sigourney Weaver, the chopper ilot and the Navi babe were the best chars in Avatar but I like c... : Lightzout
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  I thought this was going to be about Vasquez. : thecray
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    Some people mistake her for a man. : phate81
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      I hear you have that problem as well. : thecray
      
      *high five* : thecray
      
      Don't matter when it's Arcturan! : AxeMan808
- Ripley is the shit. No one comes close. : Godhatesfatpeople
- By far best movie.... : ShadowRam
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  it's because usually they cast these little princessy twits like Jessica Alba instead of normal women who... : Megara9
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    Bingo. Same goes for most lead male roles today. I want "men" not "boys" trying to act in their dad's clo... : Godhatesfatpeople
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      this is why 80's movies were great. You had plenty of male stars who weren't testosterone-bathed mutants ... : Megara9
      
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      This is why guys like Bruce Willis will forever go down as the guy who helped kill the 'roid action star ... : Godhatesfatpeople
      
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      You heard it here first, folks. He likes the natural dudes. : MrBig0
      
      Foh' sho. : Godhatesfatpeople
      
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      This guy? http://greenduckiesgirl.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/bruce-willis-on-john-mcclane.jpg : trove
      
      yup : Godhatesfatpeople
      
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      Wait. The 80's were THE decade of the musclebound action star. The 70's was the Anti-Hero. : edgewise
      
      yeah wth? dolph, arnold, sly, carl weathers, seagal, van damme, norris. it took until the very end of th... : EvilDolemite
      
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      The 80's was where the roided out dudes got their best paychecks~!!! : soggybagel
      
      predator alone is responsible for the conviction of six HGH dealers : EvilDolemite
      
      Frighteners was a '90s movie, wasn't it? : Lone Swordsman
      
      The men were on roids and the women were ugly in the 80's. : soggybagel
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    Zoe Saldana was a poor choice in Avatar.. her acting is really annoying..... : ShadowRam
    - I thought she was absolutely fantastic. : MrBig0
    - Her performance was actually really good. : chrisschutz
    - She was brilliant. : Bamtan
    - Quit trying to hide your love for the cock. : Sailor of Fortune
    - Good luck finding another 9 foot tall blue skinned actress. : edgewise
    - Since she's a spanish speaker, it allowed her to roll Rs and shit. She was a good choice. Also, she is fu... : mrvandelay
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      She did a great job, better than Weaver IMO. : Fred Garvin
      
      Any actor sounds silly reading those lines. Ugh. : Cygnus X-1
    - I thought she was great. You lose. : orgcaptainnemo
    - I thought her performance was the best in the film. : WhatIsThisFor
    - I partly fell in love with her character. not a furry : atom519
    - I just wanted to see her tits : ass-street
    - I thought her performance was amazingly good. you sir, are broken. : theWhite
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      One day songs will be written about just how wrong your post is. : ColoradoCNC
      
      Where's Chris Remo when you need him? : c0bra
    - What! : pigvomit
    - she was perfect for the role. you're broken. : yautja
    - I always thought she was British for some reason. : Ellissd
    - You think her acting in the movie is annoying but using that many periods isn't? : Nighteyes
  - And somehow she still looked hot at the end of Alien. : Evil Benius
  - Here's the main female character in The Andromeda Strain (1971): http://www.filmdope.com/Gallery/Actor... : eldersveld
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  To paraphrase Remo: You now know where video games come from. : Arcanum
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    very true: "Game over man! Game OVER!!" : MaverickOrig
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      In the pipe, five by five. : Sailor of Fortune
      
      But I poop from there! : nudel
      
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      i always thought she said "five five five" : ass-street
      
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_by_five : riptyde
- I don't think I've ever seen a movie she was bad in. And she still looks amazing for her age. Even not ... : Boxelder
- as I was watching Avatar, I was imagining Aliens redone in this 3d tech. it will never happen because th... : grendel
- That woman in Transporter 2 was using auto glocks, not uzis : free2game365

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