Morning Discussion: The Launch of CH@i

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• Terminator 2 > * : NFXFSX
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  the ME2 trailer : Cheeziologist
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    eh? as in mass effect 2? : nevlos
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      yes. Also, the opening music to Myst will do this to me as well. : Cheeziologist
      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmVhKZQIrCU Just the theme for Cyan does it for me. : senseimoron
• Battle over Coruscant. : g0nk
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  T2 is such an all-around awesome movie. For me, I don't think any action movie has topped it. : aggressor
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    Matched by Aliens IMO. And JC is behind both of them, go figure. : Marrbe
    • this is the main reason I'm stoked to see avatar : hamachi
• Top Gun! : pgharavi
• I am kind of partial to the titles to Total Recall. Can't find the animated one, but here's the music: ... : Thresher
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  Last of the Mohicans. : Navy Spitfire
  • That's a good one. : royalally
  • ^ agreed 100% : c0bra
  • fucking signed : funnynamehere
  • fuck yea : peat
  • Best reply in the whole thread : rosewood
  • Yep, this whole fucking scene is brilliant and Clanad did an awesome job with the score http://www.you... : two50six
• Seymore Butts' Assians Have More Anal Fun : Dave-A
• The intro for T2 for sure : Gojirah
• You mean the actual intro of the film or like the musical score? : soggybagel
• There's something about the notes in those songs which just doesn't sit right with me, they just don't se... : thecray
• Predator? : AxeMan808
• When I get cremated, I want the T2 end-scene music playing. Special request to have my rigor-mortis-ridde... : Broken Canoe
• Hunt for Red October http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvqyosmPaoE or Conan the Barbarian http://ww... : zen2k
• Not a movie, but the FFVIII intro movie is still awesome. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9IkmZLFkFw : Modica Sol Solis
• T2 is better, I love hopeless future apocalypses. : Lone Swordsman
• Drewus, check out this cover of that theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ3OyE93ePw&feature=related : MrBig0
• So much Arnold in this thread. <3 : SockMonkeh
• That theme music stands above all. : givemesnacks
• I really like the song "Machine Gun" by Portishead because it reminds me of the Terminator theme. You got... : datoo
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  HIJACK what about games? For me, probably the chrono trigger opening sounds. Especially when playing it o... : mindmann
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    there's a whole nother thread pretty similar to this : peat
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      sorry. didn't see. =( : mindmann
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        Hey FUCK HIM Chrono Trigger is amazing. It should be in every thread! : bolneze
        • and the other thread isn't even related to what i was talking about! >=( : mindmann
  • BF1942 : rosewood
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    Max Payne. : Koral06
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      i've never played that game......=s : mindmann
      • WWWWHHHHHHHHAAAAAATTTTTT????!?!?!?!?!?!! "Do it! Do it now!" : Legolas5
• Thissssss http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5C1dZMMm5s : kill9
• Blade Runner, : ghost hacker
• The first little bit of The Dark Knight for sure. That one note violin score was amazing. : lodit
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  The Good, The Bad and The Ugly. From the credits to introducing all the characters. And then I can't stop... : GearHead2k3
  • and now everybody else in this thread are jealous of you thinking of it before them. : umegastar
• Not a movie, but: War. War never changes.... : azshack
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  The Thing dun dun......dun dun.........dun dun........ : thejm4n
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0FhSHqGg74 : thejm4n
• Way of the Gun : spyrext

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  Scottish Resistance is useful for guarding more than one door. For instance, on 2Fort, you can sticky bo... : Clasifyd
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    Yes, but don't you risk escape by your target when you take the time to face them? : Maddog_Delphi97
    • Well, I would wager to bet it's much quicker to turn than it is for them to move. Also, it's obviously no... : Clasifyd
    • Given that you had to be looking in their direction anyway to see them, it shouldn't take much extra time... : Zek
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  Maybe I just need more practice with it, but I still prefer the old RL, especially the maps that have a l... : nyranger66
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    You're nuts, maps with open room are the best reason to use the Direct Hit. There's basically no dodging ... : Zek
    • Well really what I meant is the maps that n : nyranger66
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  Oh god, really? You just made me open steam and start redownloading TF2 ... how hard will it be for me to... : InfoBiter
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    Pray that it randomly drops for you :< : nyranger66
    • ANNNDD now I want to stop installing TF2 ... but we'll see. : InfoBiter
    • All you have to do is get 10 achievements. You can even make a private game, turn cheats on and do it wit... : Zek
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    Not very long at all, either you'll find it in a drop or get via achievements just by playing the game fo... : Dschinghis Khan
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      There is no way he will get 10 achievements in 20 minutes unless he is cheating, which is fine i guess bu... : MoreVespeneGas
      • main menu: create server, max players 30. Load up an achievementmap. Type into console: sv_cheats 1 mp... : Klebold
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        I just wasted about two hours and got some achievments. Still no weapon. Did tons of frags, air rockets, ... : anal justice
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          Have you consulted what achievements you have done or did you just try playing and hope that you got some... : Klebold
          • Regular play. I just shoot at people :) : anal justice
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    took me about an hour, it's the first one unlocked : vynn
    • no it isnt : MoreVespeneGas
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  I've never played tf2. How bad do I suck? : deadfish
  • right so i started and so far i'm best as a sniper or an engineer making superturrets : deadfish
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  What does it do???? : CrustaR
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    80% faster rockets that do 25% more damage on direct hits, but do much less splash damage : EvilDolemite
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      Intriguing. : CrustaR
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        Fascinating. : Nitrium
        • Absolutely fascinating. AWWWWW! Hip Hip Hip a-Hip Hooray, DJ Fuze is here to stay, Raw Fusion DJ, Hey Hey... : AxeMan808
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      70% less splash damage IIRC : ass-street
      • The damage is the same; it's the range of the splash that is decreased. : omnova
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    the new rocket launcher feels much more like the quake 1 rocket launcher with the faster rocket speed : vynn
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      Hmmm.... interesting. : Ride-My-Rocket
      • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21689828#itemanchor_21689828 : CrustaR
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      And it's pretty much useless in a big numbers game. It's only really effective in small numbers. Anything... : Godhatesfatpeople
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        Also after using both speed-inducing melee weapons I still don't understand why the Soldier or the Demo n... : Godhatesfatpeople
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          Gloves that let the Heavy travel faster have been in beta testing for a long time. Dunno when/if they're ... : Zek
          • See I heard that too. And I wondered what the hell happened to that? I remember Robin saying they were to... : Godhatesfatpeople
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  valve has to nerf the direct hit and equalizer, they are incredibly powerful and the equalizer is a strai... : DrFlammable
  • the direct hit has garbage splash damage, though, so you have to have good aim and timing, much better th... : EvilDolemite
  • boots + normal launcher + equalizer. yesssssssssss : Downforce
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    What's the downside to the Equalizer? It does sound like just a straight upgrade. : Duffman8369
    • Does less damage when your HP is very high. That's it. : Zek
    • You can't be healed while holding it either. : Sze Ior
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      high risk high reward is the gist of it. to make it worthwhile you have to be below 50 hp : RikiTiki2
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        There no high risk at all for this. Even when taking the low-health into account. You eventually become s... : Godhatesfatpeople
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          what was the class makeup of their team? with more engineers and heavies and pyros once things get back i... : RikiTiki2
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            It was mixed but it was mostly demos/soldiers. With some pyros, heavies and engies thrown in. What boggle... : Godhatesfatpeople
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              or just swap out the bonesaw for the targe. it's a great escape move with the resists : RikiTiki2
              • also swap out the needle gun for the Direct Hit, it would really help them defend themselves : Zek
        • If you're running around at 20 health and no one can kill you before you melee them then you're playing a... : Zek
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      it is, pretty much like the KGB. really no point for plain fists either : Downforce
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        i like the fists. they have higher DPS (faster attack rate) plus the taunt kill : RikiTiki2
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          I find myself in a situation with more than one person at close range though, so KGB is a superior choice... : Downforce
          • I think fists and KGB are balanced. If multiple people are in a room with you, you should be gunning them... : Zek
      • The fists taunt kills though. : Sze Ior
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    I'll have to enjoy the Direct Hit while I can, it's so damn fun but definitely much better than the origi... : vynn
    • Obviously any good soilder doesn't go for anything but body shots. : D45hiz
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      Ever? Because almost every Soldier even the good ones in Cevo matches rely on splash damage. The DH is re... : Godhatesfatpeople
      • It's great in all game times, even larger games because with groups of enemies there's a good chance that... : vynn
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    I think the mid-air minicrits are probably excessive. People randomly jump all the time to dodge rockets ... : Zek
    • That'll teach those bunny hoppers. : old and busted vs the new hotness
    • Mini-crit is quickly becoming a very lazy design tactic for Valve. :( : Godhatesfatpeople
    • Take your lumps like a man private twinkle toes : nyranger66
    • I agree with this. I like the concept, and do think that airshots should be rewarded, but shooting someon... : FlamingGimp
  • The boots apparently only work for vertical rocket jumps. Wall jumps, for example, still deal full self-... : omnova
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    Yeah they really do. No drawback at all on the Equalizer. Also the Sword and Shield also need to get nerf... : Godhatesfatpeople
    • Why does the sword and shield need to be nerfed? I assume you're talking about the explosive resistance, ... : Zek
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      You keep saying minicrits are a lazy design decision. Why? : Duffman8369
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        Because instead of creating a small bubble of mini-crits where only a few classes actually benefit from i... : Godhatesfatpeople
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          I mean how is it useful to a Medic, Sniper, Pyro or even a Spy? They could do something when its activate... : Godhatesfatpeople
          • I don't know, I think it sounds fine for what it intends to do. Give a quick damage boost to other front ... : Duffman8369
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            It's useful for everyone except Medics. To varying degrees, sure, but if it did all that at once it would... : Zek
            • It's just an item I think they really could have executed better to benefit the team design instead of th... : Godhatesfatpeople
        • Ammo regen and a slight fire-rate increase, or accuracy increase would have been a much better thing. ... : Beady
  • Equalizer is ridiculous. When you have low health you move faster than a scout. Direct hit is totally a... : FlamingGimp
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    Yea the direct hit will definitely be nerfed. It is just too fast. : ant_hillbilly
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      They can nerf it all they like but don't touch the rocket speed, that's what makes it so very fun. : Zek
      • maybe kill all splash with it : RikiTiki2
  • The buff banner is badass, probably my favorite unlock so far. It's super when you are on the front line... : atom519
  • They've stated they won't necessarily downgrade the EQ but make the standard shovel more appealing. : ProtoPunch
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  hmm, apparently I need to try this new TF2 patch : ]pm[chem
  • It's a good patch. Last night, both TF2 servers hosted by shackers (Re-verse and Rydogg1) were completel... : Maddog_Delphi97
• The ??? is when you install the quake sound pack :) : Amnesty_intl2
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  Is engineer now the only class without unlocks? : NastyJack
  • Yeah : Godhatesfatpeople
  • orbital nuke for engineer pls valve : ]pm[chem
  • Boy is the next update going to be fun... : Zek
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    Yeah and with the new rocket they are useless. : ant_hillbilly
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      the sentry has only been a deterrent up to now. the good shit is obviously teleporters and an L3 dispense... : Downforce
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        As an engineer, I'd like some kind of ability to tell if a spy is close to one of my dispensers. I rem... : Maddog_Delphi97
        • TFC would tell you if an enemy was using your dispenser, disguised spy or not. : Beady
      • My vote is for force field walls, like in various tribes 2 mods, they let your teammates walk through but... : kaddar0
      • I vote Mech.. other Engineers (up to 2) can mount their turrets on the Mech.... : ShadowRam
      • I'd like to see a replacement teleporter that grants any teammate 10 seconds of cloak and has a recharge ... : Sze Ior
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        Invisible turret that only shoots spies. The fuckers. : DinK
        • lol : Ride-My-Rocket
        • lmao, a cloaked turret would be epic lols or on gliched geometry SUP GRAVEL PIT : Downforce
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    I'm hoping for an automatic shotgun. : Cliffzorz
    • That'd be nice. But I hope it's another type of sentry. Maybe a flamethrower or something. : NastyJack
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      akimbo 1887s : vynn
      • yes please : deadfish
• need to make a hell of a lot more changes than that, especially when it comes to movement : synapse19
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  The SR is totally broken. The line of sight shit doesn't work as it should. SO many time I had it give ou... : Godhatesfatpeople
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    i think that sword is too crazy. i saw so many fucking demos running around like chickens racking up swo... : papaskot
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      It was. I had so many Equalizer killing streaks last night. Both of those new melee items are way too fuc... : Godhatesfatpeople
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        no they're not. wait until 90% of the server stops playing soldier and demo. all you need is a couple hea... : DrFlammable
        • that's a very good point : Nitrium
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          I still don't see that being effective. But we'll see. These two classes being some of my main's I just d... : Godhatesfatpeople
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            how is it not effective? heavies deal neither explosive nor fire damage which the shield reduces. demos w... : DrFlammable
            • I fucking hope it's faster than that. Because its a mess right now. : Godhatesfatpeople
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        i was talking about eyelander : papaskot
        • Ah, sorry. Well my comments still stand with the Equalizer. It needs a drawback badly. Either swap out th... : Godhatesfatpeople
    • I agree, I can see this getting nerfed as well. They are extremely hard to counter as certain classes, a... : atom519
    • Counters to the sword/shield: 1. Bullets. Every class other than Demo has them. 2. Melee. As long a... : Zek
    • you know what's going to be necessary to combat demo charge spam? DEMOS. with the scottish sticky minefie... : Downforce
  • it's based on a radius around the crosshair on your hud. i thought it was pretty intuitive, however i'd l... : DrFlammable
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    were you right next to them? I noticed there's like a minimum distance before it'll light up : RikiTiki2
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      Yeah I was. It's just something I won't be using since I'm a very offensive Demo. But I was hoping this w... : Godhatesfatpeople
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        Their unlocks aren't horrible but they're major playstyle changers, it's a little sad for Demo mains who ... : Zek
        • I know they're play-style items. But these just don't warrant enough of a reason to swap out you know? At... : Godhatesfatpeople
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          pyro? really? and the sandvich is pretty handy, can't say im a huge fan of nat. : MoreVespeneGas
          • Yeah really, the Backburner was imba when it came out but was shortly after nerfed to uselessness. The Fl... : Zek
• I finally read what all the updates are. Jesus these sound awesome. I'm gonna play some tf2 on vacation. : NastyJack
• In all the awesome Shack TF2 games we had last night I could not get that damned thing to unlock! Bah! : ImageOmega
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  crafting has anyone actually made something yet? how do i craft myself a pair of those soldier boots? : DrFlammable
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    you'll need a soldier class token, a secondary slot token, and a scrap metal : RikiTiki2
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      a class token will need 4 of that class's items (so 4 soldier weapons). a slot token needs 4 of that slo... : RikiTiki2
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        The item requirements are so unreasonable, if I have 4 extra items for a class what are the odds I still ... : Zek
        • you could a bunch of duplicates and none of the missing one : RikiTiki2
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      that could also give me the flag though, right? : DrFlammable
      • could : RikiTiki2
      • by the time you get 4 soldier weapons to make a class token you'll have the flag and boots by then : Chandler55
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    I combined 4 bottles of piss into a sniper class token! : vynn
    • hahahaha same here :D 4 bottles of piss should get you some MEGA PISS though, like quad damage piss. all... : Downforce
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    How does a medic get item drops if he's not killing? (Or is it shared by kill assets?) : Jiven
    • Its based on time played, not performance. That is why you can idle on servers and still get pickups. : Klebold
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  How do you rocket jump since the Direct Hit doesn't have much splash damage? : WhatIsThisFor
  • It's the same as the normal rocket launcher for rocket jumping. : Zek
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  fuck I want the direct hit so goddamn badly :( : mwasher
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    direct hit and kritz is pretty goddamn lethal. it's an explosion festival right now and everything is of ... : Downforce
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      Finally? The soldier has been a totally awesome class from the start. The bugle is a cool concept, and... : FlamingGimp
      • I think it is, yeah. It does benefit your own rockets and it builds pretty quickly. It seems to build Rag... : Zek
      • Seems like the bubble needs to be a little bigger so it is worth the loss of personal killing power for g... : Merconium
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      isn't that counter intuitive? the krieg benefits most from swaths of splash damage : RikiTiki2
      • Yeah that's pretty silly, the purpose of the Kritz is to clear out a room not just utterly rape one dude. : Zek
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      Kritz on a DH soldier is such a waste. That's like Kritzing a Natascha-using Heavy. : Godhatesfatpeople
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        it works great at range. don't get me wrong I'm not saying it's the best usage of the krieg, but still, ... : Downforce
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          You make it sound like the Soldier was never contributing anything to the team dynamic. He has always bee... : Godhatesfatpeople
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            yeah, pretty much. It seems clear with the bugle they want the soldier to be something people can have fu... : Downforce
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              It's just you dude, Soldiers have been one of the better classes from the start. They've been nerfed nume... : Zek
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                I dunno, I think valve's actions are pretty clear on what the soldier needed improving, at least as a gam... : Downforce
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                  I wouldn't take what Valve does out the gate for TF2 as to what the game needed. Valve constantly tweaks ... : Godhatesfatpeople
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                    all that really matters is ENGINEERING anyway amirite or amirite : Downforce
                    • D: : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Does the bugle stack on top of the jarate??? : FlamingGimp
  • reports indicate a no on that : RikiTiki2
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  steam connection keeps going down =( : mobab
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    i couldn't craft anything. it would only tell me the craft server is unavailable. : AMikaboshi
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      I'm getting a "could not connect to steam" error when I try to change my setup. I spent 3 hours late las... : mobab
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        Achievements are counted, just the loadouts usually aren't available. : Zek
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          Odd because I killed 5 people with the equalizer in a row with 8 health with one life w/o being healed, a... : mobab
          • I think a few of the achievements are bugged, I couldn't get the Demo one for killing 3 people at once wi... : Zek
• to keep those southern wankers contained behind that shitty excuse for a wall. : massdev

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  TL;DR, but i've always thought the most serious problem with the new Star Wars movies is that there's no ... : dirge23
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    He covers that. :) Watch the first video at least! He's wonderful. : eldersveld
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      obi-wan should have been the protagonist, i dunno how lucas fucked that up. : dirge23
      • get out of my head dammit : Goncyn
    • I was laughing when he's asking people to describe Amidala and Qui Gon. "uhhhh... he's got a beard..." : K1Bond007
  • Obi-Wan should have been the focus of the story. : Goncyn
  • There is also no fun. The first Star Wars movies were fun. : dognose
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  there's no way in hell i'm watching a 7-part, 70 minute review of a movie i didn't like : electroly
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    i could just watch the movie itself and if i fast forward through the jar jar parts it would be less time... : electroly
    • if i want to listen to a nerd talk about star wars for 70 minutes i have friends : dirge23
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    But he's really funny. :( : eldersveld
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      He really needs someone else to speak for him. His voice is annoying. : LoioshDwaggie
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        No his voice is awesome. : eldersveld
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          BWAHAHAHAHAAH, OMG Pt 2... the basement. : LoioshDwaggie
          • who's fucking with my medicine? pizza rollllllllssssss.... : BaronVonSnakPak
  • that's what I thought, until I watched the first two minutes to see what the fuss was about. 70 minutes ... : lefthighkick
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  What the fuck is wrong with First Contact? Fuck this guy! : orgcaptainnemo
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    JEAN LUC BLOW UP THE DAMN SHIP !!! : gmd
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      NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO : Cheeziologist
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        *breaks toys* : pigvomit
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          I shed a tear everytime i watch that scene. :( : pimpium
          • it is the best scene : mo13
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    The TNG cast? : cerealSAM2
    • diaf : atom519
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-f3bscZa0E#t=9m31s : eldersveld
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      hahahahah : kgargs
      • This is even better: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zqb9q3c1Pxo#t=5m5s : eldersveld
  • THE LINE MUST BE DRAWN HEAAAAAAAH : askedrelic
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  he sure sounds like he's with the times. what is he gonna review next, Short Circuit? : spiderfill
  • Johnny 5's performance was a little mechanical. : orgcaptainnemo
• Why would you spend almost half the time the movie runs to review it? That seems a bit long to me and poi... : Totenjaeger
• Haha, this guy is hilarious. Couldn't stop laughing during the Generations review. : herradura99
• It's funny and worth watching. : lechuck59
• Watched the whole thing last night and it's bloody hilarious. : stump
• I love how he eveutally just gives up on pronouncing protagonist and is just like 'prohuhrgt] : jingletard
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  what's the point of a 70 minute review? at that length, might as well watch the movie for yourself. : RikiTiki2
  • So far, this review is about 10x better than the movie. And hilarious. : Goto10
• This guy's voice and his delivery make me want to strangle kittens. : Home Nugget
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  I only watched the first one but holy shit that's hilarious at the part where he asked people to describe... : Dschinghis Khan
  • I'm going to try that on some friends also. I expect similar results. : Goto10
  • Yeah that was definitely the most telling moment. They should sit George down in one of those Clockwork O... : SatansFist
• Hahaha this is hilarious. I want a pizza roll! : dpgagnon
• noteworthy : CRasterImage
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  “Part 5 focuses on the real “Phantom Menace” which is Qui-gon Jinn. His character makes : Downforce
  • pretty much. not a real review : RikiTiki2
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    He brings up many, many good points though. Even in that part 5, he says there is no need for Qui-gon an... : Goto10
    • Really, you guys need to watch this. He makes a ton of outstanding points. : LoioshDwaggie
• "PUT IT IN THE TEA!" : enyakk
• Look, I know it's 70 minutes people. It's worth it. At least watch the first 10minute video. Also, ... : deveus1
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  So this is like an Angry Movie Nerd? : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • haha, the AVGN does cinemassacre videos where he critics lots of films. but they arent the "this is worse... : chilln
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  what in the fuck is with his voice? He sounds like he was shot in the brain and needs more therapy. : steelsamurai
  • Tbh he reminds me of rydoggs droopy dog voice. : Goto10
• LOL "Fuck you Rick Berman, you ruined this too?" : steelsamurai
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  The footage in part 7 is just cringeworthy. It really did seem like they knew what just happened and the... : Lionhart32935
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    I'm sure they cared, at least the people around Lucas. They just couldn't do anything to stop the train w... : baron calamity
    • These videos are -so- awesome. I'm watching all of his reviews now. : LoioshDwaggie
• hey big shock, star wars is campy. : crypt420
• lol @ part 2 when he goes down to his basement, wtf : SatansFist
• This guy is fucking awesome. : pigvomit
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  I've been watching his reviews for a good chunk of the day. He's awesome. : baron calamity
  • Same here. They are so well done it's amazing. : mrwolf710
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  I'm a minute and a half in and this guy is unbearable. : Chris Remo
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    Bear with it awhile, Chris. I think you'd actually like his reviews. (I couldn't watch it my first time e... : LoioshDwaggie
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      I'm five minutes now and I think I have to stop. I can't stand listening to his voice, and repeating joke... : Chris Remo
      • Chris, did something break your sense of humor? :( : pigvomit
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        excellent. I trust remo, and I'm comforted I can discard this via some pretty lame text. I hope this p... : Downforce
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          I think you are dismissing him too easily. Maybe the humor isn't your thing, but he does an excellent jo... : MamiyaOtaru
          • Part 6 is great too, every aspiring filmmaker or writer should pay attention : Serpico74
          • Right, this isn't some speedy talking gibberish BS Domino or whatever his stupid name is, this guy actual... : Goto10
        • What the fuck are you talking about? : lechuck59
      • Well you sound like a ton of fun mr serious! : Goto10
• The worst thing about the movie was how they tried to pass off Natalie Portman as two different character... : Cihte
• Wonder what he thought of T4.. : Broken Canoe
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  do I really need to watch something for 70 minutes to figure out why The Phantom Menace sucks? it's all ... : mikecyb
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    You will learn new levels of suckage. I did. : baron calamity
    • surrounded by 70 minutes of shtick, you can make anything completely suck : Downforce
    • Haha, I saw the whole thing. I guess I zoned out for half the movie because I didn't even realize it was... : deskill
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    It has useful analysis for anyone interested in story and filmmaking. And its fucking hilarious. : Serpico74
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      here is my analysis of his filmmaking: hire a goddamn narrator : mikecyb
      • Yeah, the prequels would have been much better if a dude had just read the shitty plot to us while the pe... : lechuck59
• I watched this last night. The second half of part 6 is outstanding : Serpico74
• This is actually a pretty brilliant review. Part 6 and 7 are the best parts because he makes a brilliant ... : cockoftehwalk
• holy fuck this guy's humor is right up my alley, thanks for this : lefthighkick
• part 3 raid.....wow : Turd Ferguson
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  Over analysis. I pity the guy. I enjoyed the phantom menance, sure its no empire strikes back, but switch... : yautja
  • That's what I always say about relationships. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • Eh, I'd rather watch a good movie, or go for a walk, or uhh.. a lot of other things. Also, Jar-Jar, I mea... : datoo
  • Only lamers criticize. : lechuck59
• OMFG this is so hilarious! : LemonJoose
• I had my doubts going in, but this delivered. : CRasterImage

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• I heard the movie is 8 hours long. That would explain it. : r_picmip 5
• there were a lot of reviews on ER. : Nitrium
• Bunch of people went after work last night all saying things like "thank you James Cameron" : bozer
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  i heard its full of blue dongs : whistletits
  • with little pink frills : mastermike569
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  I saw it last night at the IMAX, also, there were a bunch of reviews last night (this morning) right afte : jlboyd132321
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    wow, I kind of failed with the spoiler tag, but it's working? : jlboyd132321
    • as long as you open a tag correctly it will work despite not closing it. : Crimsonbeak
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    yeah, there is just an incredible amount of detail in the movie. I will definitely see it again in the th... : Supine
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      There were some shots that blew me away. Especially the ones where there was incredible depth of field a... : Crimsonbeak
      • I'd be interested to hear what Serpico74 has to say about the movie. He knows his stuff and always has in... : Supine
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  It is a very good movie. The visuals and sound are phenomenal, but the plot is a bit thin at times. I d... : Crimsonbeak
  • we have a 3D theater here, but no IMAX. :( : g0nk
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    What is the difference between IMAX and 3D? : jbury
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      IMAX = really huge screen, that's all. 3D is obviously 3D. IMAX + 3D is the best way to go. : umcpwintermute
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        So it's the same type of 3D on both screens? : jbury
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          Yea, the 3D tech is the same from what I've read, just much larger on the IMAX screens. : umcpwintermute
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            And try to find a real Imax screen. Not the pseudo slightly larger than normal Imax screens they've start... : porp
            • 117x96 Was the screen size I saw on at the Providence IMAX. : Crimsonbeak
            • This is the size of the screen I'll be seeing it at tonight (58x28). Did I get ripped off? I saw Star ... : at0micgarden
            • what the fuck is this. : deskill
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              The only Imax near me is the small one. Would you recommend paying $15 / ticket to go to a small Imax or... : bipolar
              • Go IMAX. The screen is still 3 stories tall and the seating is at a steeper angle, allowing for an unobst... : silaslang
              • i don't know as i haven't seen it on any screen yet. I just looked up all of this earlier in the week. We... : porp
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              I'm seeing Avatar at the BFI IMAX London: https://bfi.org.uk/whatson/sites/bfi.org.uk.whatson/files/page... : Klebold
              • Haha that looks cool. Almost like a machine part. : pigvomit
            • I thought IMAXs had a dome configuration. : RuffasBluetain
            • This is important, and started me on a quest. Thanks for the info! : spyrext
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        Wrong... Imax uses a larger filmstrip, yes, but it also uses a vastly superior sound system to help fi... : dedgecko
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          A permeable screen with speakers behind it are quite cool. : Klebold
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            unless the bass is cranked up - when i saw District 9 the screen was rippling in concentric circles : Borzoi
            • ahaha that sounds pretty awesome, actually : MrBig0
        • This movie wasn't shot in 17/50 though so the picture is just larger, not more clear. You are correct abo... : MrBig0
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    Will the 3d glasses fit over regular glasses? Is this like Final Fantasy Spirits Within where the visual... : jkstanton
    • The glasses will fit over regular glasses. You may fall asleep. : lechuck59
    • There's no way you'll fall asleep during this movie. : MrBig0
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    Pandora was established long before the movie was released. We've got the hunter, siren, soldier and Bric... : AhmNee
    • I dont think i'm ready to see a gigantic vagina monster in three dimensions yet. : Klebold
• good movie, helped greatly by 3d. not a fantastic story, but great storytelling. didn't mind the cheesy b... : Supine
• It's spectacular, I loved every minute. That James Cameron knows how to spin a yarn let me tells ya. I'm ... : darcspeed
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  Oh yeah, I wanted to comment on 3D in general. The only other 3D movie I liked was UP, but I still wa... : jlboyd132321
  • Theaters should sell higher quality glasses for people that want them. : quazar
  • I found the 3D in UP was detrimental to my enjoyment of the movie. The colour was less vibrant and the 3d... : marmite
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    do they not do the thing they used to where everyone gets their own glasses in a sealed plastic bag and c... : goatboy
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      Imax has special 'expensive' 3d glasses with asset control tags in them that beep if you try to take them... : MrBig0
      • oh yeah, i was thinking of the normal reald ones that we have at the local theater here. I've not been to... : goatboy
• It's two hours and forty minutes of a teenage James Cameron jerking off all over your face in 3-D. The CG... : silaslang
• A bunch of people I know have seen it. Geeky guys, geeky girls, preppy guys, preppy girls. They all liked... : Caboose
• I now have tickets to see it in 6 hours. In 3D. IN GERMAN. Oh well, I can at least look at the pretty ... : jbury
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  Visually, it is the most impressive and amazing film I have ever seen. Everything about the way it looks... : deject
  • Precisely how i felt about the movie. : captain hampton
  • My thoughts exactly, it was more a spectacle than anything else. : dissembler
• I thought the movie was incredible overall. There were some parts though where it was just...specific : sreyes22
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  Question - is it entirely in 3d, or are there only 3d scenes where you put on the glasses, then take them... : lpearl
  • 100% : electroly
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    I don't think there are movies anymore where you need to take off the glasses. Even if they wanted to jus... : MrBig0
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      When I saw the last Harry Potter, only the 1st 20 minutes were in 3d, and I had memories back to Superman... : lpearl
      • superman returns fucking sucked :( of all the scenes to make 3d... How about lifting a giant island made ... : MrBig0
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  Really good, and definitely needs to be seen in 3d. The last third proves James Cameron is still everythi... : Conan
  • The scene where they Blow up the tree in was amazing. The sound and everything It was like watching a ma... : Crimsonbeak
• After seeing it I haven't been quite able to process my thoughts on it just yet because it's fucking awes : askterix
• so im going to see this tonight. but I guess I have to play 6 eyes and put glasses over my glasses? : NexusOne
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  So is it better then Star Wars? Are we looking at a new epic franchise? Star Wars is pretty cheesy too, i... : bozer
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    You've obviously never seen other sci-fi movies from the 70s if you think Star Wars has some of the chees... : silent prophet
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      I feel similarly to bozer. I loved Star Wars as a kid, but it's difficult to watch even the original tril... : MrBig0
      • Are you kidding? Star Wars and Empire still rule all. Watched both with my little sister a few months ago... : locater16
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      Sorry to have insulted your sacred 1970's movie. I said it's good but that there's some cheese in it. If ... : bozer
      • I know it has cheesy parts. Those movies were like catching lightning in a bottle. I think the prequels d : silent prophet
  • no, its not. Star Wars has a much more rich, complex plot, a far vaster scope, better characters, a more ... : GloriousCow
• Is there a listing of all 3D theaters out there? I know of a couple IMAX theaters within 2 hrs, but have ... : maulla
• I'm glad I saw it, but don't think I'll be seeing it again. The story is so cliche it hurts. My brain ach... : festivalman
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  My girlfriend wear regular glasses with a fairly heavy corrective lense, is it still possible to see a 3d... : Smellsy
  • I wear glasses and the imax 3d glasses fit over mine fine and didn't give me a headache or anything : MrBig0
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    If she is crosseyed she may not be able to see 3D sterio. : RuffasBluetain
    • Stereo : RuffasBluetain
    • i suspect that if she can see perspective in real life, the 3d will work for her : MrBig0
  • My wife's eyes are fucking terrible, but she had no problem just putting the 3D glasses over her regular ... : Vincent Grayson
  • glasses turn bad vision into better/normal vision. the 3d glasses will still work. : Klebold
  • the polarized type glasses are just tiny films of plastic. They shouldn't affect anybody's optics. : GloriousCow
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  Just got back from it (IMAX 3D). It was really amazing, cinematic and breathtaking at times. If you hav... : megarust32
  • Got my tickets, and I'm going in skeptical as fuck. This article (posted here) convinced me. http://w... : deskill
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  It was just okay. If you have the money to spend on the crazy ticket price in an IMAX 3D showing, do so.. : Bean
  • Also, after talking with a number of my friends who also saw it, I get the distinct feeling that most of ... : Bean
• Gonna be seeing it at the IMAX tonight : Reeves

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• the ability to disable energy weapons through shielding or countermeasures will be the new armor. : stgdz
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  Would energy weapons be visible to the naked eye? : MagicWishMonkey
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    Probably not, even an optical laser would be invisible in space unless it happened to be pointed at you. : bostrov
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      That's what I figured. : MagicWishMonkey
      • You would only see the effect of the weapon on the target. : thewindcriesmary
• So basically it is like a naval warfare? (although with greater distances) : byorn
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  The problem with energy weapons will be coming up with one powerful enough to drill through whatever armo... : umcpwintermute
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    that sounds reasonable, but I suppose it would depend on the acuity of sensory technology and the distanc... : DonkeyPopsicle
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      if the thing in question is moving at a considerable fraction of the speed of light by the time you sense... : steelsamurai
      • Yeah, if you're going to arbitrarily say you can instantly detect a small projectile 5,000,000km away, yo... : DinK
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    Not to mention the problem of heat dissipation from energy weapons. Hard to dissipate heat in a vacuum, s... : asylumn
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      You'll have to have huge cooling pumps (or use your potable water supply for cooling as well as keeping p... : umcpwintermute
      • The cooling pumps are just pumping the heat around, you still need to radiate it off of the vehicle itsel... : bostrov
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      Heat dissipation would be an issue for KE weapons as well, either due to barrel friction or energy use or... : Arcanum
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        I assume for kinetic weapons there would be some sort of automated cooling measure that kicked in immedi... : one random winner
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          The automated cooling is no different in purpose than what would be needed for an energy weapon. : Arcanum
          • The only difference will be in how much energy/heat each one takes. : umcpwintermute
          • You'd likely (as kinetic would be a burst while energy would be sustained) need far less cooling for kine... : one random winner
      • Absolutely agree, but you'd have to see how much energy it takes to boil 3m of steel at over a thousand k... : umcpwintermute
      • discharge the heated water/material from the vessel itself? : packav
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    I think you're mistaken in the energy requirements department. Accelerating anything to a noticeable fra... : Arcanum
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      I think it'll take a lot of energy to accelerate a few kilograms up to even 1/10 c, but I still think it ... : umcpwintermute
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        I don't think you need to accelerate them to even that speed. Use a 2-stage hybrid weapon: Fire a KE : Arcanum
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          Yeah, these two are what I would pick for space weapons. Things like the 2-stage weapons you mention are ... : Arctic Fox
          • Tactical nukes? Who said anything about tactical nukes? : Arcanum
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          2 kilo rock at 1/10 lightspeed discounting relativistic effects has 9x10^16 joules of KE. 2 kilo warhea... : steelsamurai
          • Yes, but you have to accelerate the 2 kilo rock to 1/10th light speed. That is a nontrivial exercise in ... : Arcanum
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        Depends on what range we are taking about here. Lasers would be more accurate and faster. : thewindcriesmary
        • They don't deliver a huge amount of energy instantaneously like a kinetic energy weapon though. : DinK
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      Found online: energy to melt 1 cubic millimeter of steel is is about 400 joules. Assuming you want to... : umcpwintermute
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        This is probably off by orders of magnitude just due to how great a heat sink a 3m thick spaceship hull w... : DinK
        • Yea, I'm sure it's nowhere close to accurate. I was just running the numbers to see what it would be rou... : umcpwintermute
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        How LONG does it take to melt that 1 cubic millimeter though? Both ships would have to stay exactly still... : swimteampie
        • Yea, I didn't bother to figure that out - that's why I just tagged it with "this is best case circumstanc... : umcpwintermute
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    But does energy have to be purely disrupted? What if you could disrupt electronics even through hardening... : geedeck
    • Tossing out EMPs would be a good way to solve the problem, as long as you could guarantee that their syst... : umcpwintermute
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  nukes : gmd
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    Unfortunately (or maybe not), when detonated in space there's not very much in the way of a mechanism to ... : bostrov
    • That's why you'd have missiles that penetrate the hull before detonation. : AhmNee
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      In some ways, this actually makes nukes more desirable in space. The damage to something in contact with... : Arcanum
      • Not to mention the electromagnetic shock. : one random winner
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  Computer virus with a skull and crossbones. : walker270
  • Welcome to earf! : photonzach
  • generated from a unix prompt : MaverickOrig
• Accelerate a few particles to light speed. Even if they're nearly massless you'll get a big fucking bang... : old and busted vs the new hotness
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  Fighters might be useful, but only if the carriers end up in such close range that the fighters can avoid... : Lone Swordsman
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    They might also be able to take advantage of recharge times, since an energy weapon large enough to destr... : Lone Swordsman
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      how much energy would a laser beam lose over say a thousand kilometers? : xxx2xxx
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        In space with not a lot of molecules to dissipate the beam, probably not much (maybe 5% energy loss just ... : umcpwintermute
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          One issue the author of the article left out is that the photons in lasers aren't quite perfectly paralle... : Arcanum
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            surprisingly, then, it sounds like it's actually quite difficult to damage, much less destroy, another ar... : DonkeyPopsicle
            • Yep, I'd agree with that statement. Figuring out a way to deal large amounts of damage to an armored tar... : umcpwintermute
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              It's not as hard if everyone is stuck with reaction-based drives. Fuel becomes an issue, so significantl... : Arcanum
              • On the other hand, if you have reactionless drives things get very...interesting. It's hard to make pred... : Arcanum
        • I couldnt eitheer. I always thought the "normal" space battles in tv and such are completely bogus and yo... : xxx2xxx
• focused magnetic waves tearing shit apart : hobosapien
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  but war in space might become so materially expensive and energy wasteful that it wouold just be in our b... : hobosapien
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    But what if those other guys are fags? : MagicWishMonkey
    • inf+ : unjustend
    • Lol, Best response ever! : stophelping37
    • i had to open up firefox to lol this as my extensions are broken in chrome : MrBig0
  • We can only hope. : Ebu
  • hahhahahhahahhahhahahhahahhahahahahahhahahahhahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahaha-breathes-hahahahahhahah... : Arctic Fox
  • That's never an option! : schnitz76
  • Don't be ridiculous. : Arceihn
  • of course a hobo would say that! jobless hippie! : deadfish
  • lolllllllll : riptyde
  • you commie socialist hippie hobo : Nitrium
  • Kind of like old school BattleTech. No one fucked with a Jump Ship cause it was just too damn valuable. : ShadowRam
  • Seems to be working in Iraq and Afghanistan. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • Yeah, just like we did in WWI and WWII. : randomjgj
• I've always thought some sort of rapid hot/cold vibration bomb type weapon would be ideal, it would be be... : one random winner
• dark matter : rosewood
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  Hurl rocks at the enemy's planet. : Spoetzl
  • Gravity manipulation bombs FTW! : one random winner
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  The Lost Fleet series has some great near relativistic combat. They were using some form of energy weapo... : trove
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    Why would it be a huge issue? Seems like it would be pretty easy to get rid of excess heat in deep space. : MagicWishMonkey
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      Not really, because there's very little actual matter in deep space so there's nothing to absorb the heat... : umcpwintermute
      • Ahh yea that's a good point. : MagicWishMonkey
    • there's nothing in a vacuum that conducts heat. On earth we have the atmosphere that either directly coo... : DonkeyPopsicle
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      Since you can't shed heat by conduction in space, you are pretty well insulated, you are dependent on rad... : trove
      • The thing that I always figured happening would be some sort of either close-range plasma based weaponry ... : SusanTD
  • I'm enjoying that series immensely, but I don't think there's anything plausible about the space combat a... : Wadmaasi
• Nuclear* missiles, energy weapons, pure KE weapons at shorter ranges. Hybrids are a distinct possibility : Arcanum
• the key to space battles is unobtanium. : Downforce
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  I think Mass Effect had a shitload of stuff about that. Something like big ships became nearly invincible... : xsoulbrothax
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    actually there is one vessel that cannot be defeated by anything: Spaceball 1. it also transforms. : Downforce
    • She's gone from SUCK to BLOW : unjustend
    • It was prone to radar jamming, however. That and the ship lacked adequate safety features to protect its... : oldRivers
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    This thread is the reason the Mass Effect Codex is so fucking cool. The thing with the information in ... : Duffman8369
    • Yeah, I really enjoyed reading all that crap in the codex. : DinK
  • The one big difference was that the "mass effect" exists in that universe, making kinetic energy weapons ... : DinK
• It would depend on the type of combat really. What is the makeup of the battle? Is it bombardment? Is it ... : Fyunch Click
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  If you guys enjoy this type of stuff, check out David Weber's Honor Harrington series. The first few book... : geedeck
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    Harrington herself pissed me off for the first few books, but otherwise I agree. It's a reasonably good ... : Arcanum
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      Do you mean how she was still figuring herself out and getting over the early angst? Yeah its a bit awkwa... : geedeck
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        Yeah, the whole "I'm practically perfect except for being completely insecure about every aspect of me" b... : Arcanum
        • Understandable, but I figure everyone has their own angst, and like you said, she worked it out : geedeck
  • Yea, I enjoyed those books a lot. Baen is a great publisher. : umcpwintermute
  • I wish this site didn't seem to be so moribund http://www.honorverse.com/Homepage.html : randomjgj
• honor harrington series is great fun. : miasma&!
• Alistair Reynolds pretty much described that in his space battles in the Revelation Space universe. : gooblerampling
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  Star Trek has it right where it is capital ship vs capital ship all the time, due to the fact that a phas... : Crimsonbeak
  • Long-range-near-light-speed-projectile related: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aECkdQDKDaY : ZTac
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    what was the name of that short story? sounds interesting : hobosapien
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      Sounds like http://www.creepypasta.com/the-gift-of-mercy/ Quite good, read it : MamiyaOtaru
      • sauce: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/2911901/ and continuation, which is different but O... : MamiyaOtaru
      • this is awesome : yAak
      • That's a good story! : ArB
    • Stross and Reynolds both use the relativistic weapon class for many of their stories. "Iron Sunrise" and ... : graincloud
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  Basically what I've gathered from this thread, space battles will actually consist of attack teams that a... : one random winner
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    SPACE MARINES! : hatchet165
    • Effectively. : one random winner
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  Guess I am gonna fire up Homeworld 2 tonight. : ghost hacker
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    Ion Cannon frigates ftw : thewindcriesmary
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      With the Complex Mod, you can have Ion Destroyers too !!!! : ghost hacker
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        We should do a complex mod shackbattle : Sailor of Fortune
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          Sailor of Fortune you are saying very sexy things. How soon do you have a good time for this? : geedeck
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            My upcoming weekends should be free. I know a Complex mod skirmish takes either forever or shorter than a... : Sailor of Fortune
            • not this weekend though, I forgot to exclude those. : Sailor of Fortune
• The book Star Wolf went with the bigger your ship the bigger your sensors the sooner you can see the enem... : drodver
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  i'm not sure how much faith i can put in that article when the thing it says about explosions being point... : supersonic potato
  • It depends how you think of explosions: explosions within a ship are bad, yes. Explosions NEAR a ship by ... : umcpwintermute
  • I think shaped warheads would have better effect standard terrestrial armor piercing depends on the deton... : AhmNee
• It all depends on propulsion. If changing course is hard then kinetic weapons have a chance if you shoot ... : drodver
• If you launch 4000 1kg iron spheres in a conical pattern at high velocity along an enemy's projected path... : AxeMan808
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  I really like BSG but the space combat is completely unbelievable. : Dave-A
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    I think slinging nukes at each other is pretty plausible, the battles always played out like two aircraft... : gmd
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      They have FTL drives, and artificial gravity, and yet still sling 'projectile' weapons at each other. (I... : ShadowRam
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        THIS THIS THIS, for fuck sake, I'm glad I'm not alone thinking this. : InfectedStool
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          Two words: Jump bombs. : Arcanum
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            Two words: Shark nukes : Delaric
            • Two words: Ruby Weapon : one random winner
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        rail guns are awesome and CHEAP! you shut your mouf : m0rfus
        • Not only that, but it's not hard to believe the power requirements or limitations of the FTL drives would... : walker270
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        Without knowing exactly how they work, why is it completely unbelievable? : walker270
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          put a bomb in a viper and jump it into the middle of the enemy ship. They apparently have the technology ... : steelsamurai
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            Remaining in formation means their systems have consistent absolute error, not that their system is arbit... : walker270
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              Actually, it does imply that their system is arbitrarily precise (or close enough to not matter). Given : Arcanum
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                No, at most it means they can jump to a position relative to another ship's destination. This could allo... : walker270
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                  It seems like that would require some odd assumptions about the math behind jumping, which violates Occam... : Arcanum
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                    Odd? Fire a cluster of rockets from the Earth to the Sun. Hitting the exact destination is hard, but ma... : walker270
                    • If they're unguided "dumb" rockets, I submit that they wouldn't hit in formation due to small variations ... : Arcanum
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                      • You're assuming each of the jumps are calculated independently. They could easily calculate the jump for... : walker270
          • Jump in and out repeatedly.. : ShadowRam
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        I never understood how if you had FTL drives how a laser, traveling at light speed, would be able to hit ... : hussdelrio
        • What were the supposed to do, jump every time anything got close? The FTL drive had a "cool down", it co... : Moonbase Commander
        • The FTL drives didn't act instantly whenever they wanted them to. They had to power them up first. And ... : DinK
      • It's because the ships are relatively close to each other. If you have watched the show, you know that... : GoodBoy
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      Roger on that, and I like how they use projectiles instead of pew-pew lasers. but the fighter part always... : Dave-A
      • Depends, human beings are random enough that it gives them even odds. If they are predicable though, the... : umcpwintermute
• AMRAAM all over again. modern air combat is boring : RikiTiki2
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  you need to play more EVE : m0rfus
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    I'm probably going to resubscribe tonight and join some sort of pirate corp once I get some skills in ord... : Reeves
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      They sent me an email asking me to re-activate and giving me 5 free days : AlexXdude
      • Yeah i got that too, but I think it was like 30 free days.. Only I'm like 5 days too late to activate it ... : Reeves
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  What are railguns classified as? Just based on what I've read about micrometeors doing to stuff in orbit... : Moonbase Commander
  • Railguns are a form of kinetic energy weapons. : umcpwintermute
  • it is a kinetic slug, US Navy is up to 32 megajoules iirc. : gmd
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    Kinetic energy weapons. The problem is aiming them at long ranges. : Arcanum
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      ^ Thanks to all for the clarification. I don't know anything about the physics behind such things but ... : Moonbase Commander
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        You, of ALL PEOPLE, should bone up on this subject. : AxeMan808
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          seriously. more like moonbase n00b >:( : Downforce
          • N00bbase Commander lolz amirite? : noxiousgg
        • Hey now. I'm well versed in all subjects of moon combat. I can aim and power up bomb lobs, I utilize "d... : Moonbase Commander
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        There are a few problems: First, at sufficiently long ranges the time it takes for the light (or radar... : Arcanum
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          Would it be fair to say, then, that developing faster engines is of equal or greater importance? We coul... : Moonbase Commander
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            Not necessarily. Railguns aren't the only weapons out there. Missiles, for instance, can be effective a... : Arcanum
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              Although missiles are limited by how much maneuvering fuel you give them. If you assume they can make (f... : umcpwintermute
              • Correct, but that's still better than a straight-up KEW which is essentially unable to make significant c... : Arcanum
            • In David Drake's Lt. Leary Commanding series, ship-ship weapons are warhead-less FTL drive missiles. : AxeMan808
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          To solve this; broadside cannons like the days of old. Just fire all your railguns at once, something'... : Cliffzorz
          • Mass fire (a simple broadside isn't enough) helps some, but you run into issues of ammo quantity and proj... : Arcanum
  • railsguns are AWESOME!!! http://gizmodo.com/351467/navy-rail-gun-test-destroys-everything-it-touches-a... : m0rfus
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  this makes me sad that the space combat genre is virtually extinct. : BaronVonSnakPak
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    Screw you! Imma play Sins of a Solar Empire: Entrenchment RIGHT NOW. : Moonbase Commander
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      Entrenchment? : Klebold
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        Entrenchment!!! : Majuju
        • I think you'll enjoy the goods my boy and I have for you... : loboca
      • The expansion. As the name implies, they added a lot of new way to defend a system and make it easier to... : Moonbase Commander
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      Yea, I need to set up VMware on my MacBook Pro and get Sins reinstalled. Sounds like a good task for me ... : umcpwintermute
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        I don't think you're going to be able to run Sins in a VM. : Nali4Freedom
        • Too much effort required to get BootCamp working, though. : umcpwintermute
    • one of my favorites, but its more 4x than space combat. im talking tie fighter, free space, independen... : BaronVonSnakPak
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  Photon Torpedoes. : GoodBoy
  • I think torpedoes is the way to go. Self propelled, that could possibly drill through the hull and delive... : swimteampie
  • torpedoes fitted with FTL drives. : kek
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  I think this is one of the few subjects where science needs to STFU and let us enjoy fantasy. : proclone1
  • YEAH!!!!!!! pew pew! : r3dn3ck
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    What? I strongly disagree. The real physics are what give the whole thing an interesting angle, generally... : geedeck
    • I'm on your side with this. Reading a lot of the "hard sci-fi" that comes out of Baen and other publishe... : umcpwintermute
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      ^^^ hates tie fighter, freedom. : proclone1
      • I specifically LOOOOVE Tie Fighter sir. That said, yeah the Star Wars universe has such terrible physics.... : geedeck
  • I agree with you insomuch that my level of understanding for all things physics leaves such topics fantas... : Moonbase Commander
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  Shouldn't lasers work really well outside the atmosphere? : Marrbe
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    Yes, there is almost no degradation due to atmospheric effects. However, you still have some scatter due... : umcpwintermute
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      There's been some problems with the laser components themselves being affected by the increasing output, ... : Marrbe
      • Yea, you'll really need to dive into specialized rubies or something similar to give you a heavy enough t... : umcpwintermute
      • Some heat dissipation issues, some reliability issues, that sort of thing. The assumption is that these ... : Arcanum
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  By the time we are in large enough space battles I'd guess that the most effective weapon you could use w... : alexkward
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    There is one disadvantage to many particle beam weapons: In space charged particles will be attracted to... : Arcanum
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      Assuming you are in deep space and not fighting in a nebula or near to any planetary/stellar magnetic fie... : alexkward
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        Your own ship hull is going to be charged. Likewise the hulls of nearby friendlies. They're going to be : Arcanum
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          I understand the gun to a knife fight thing. My issue with the idea of fleet space combat is more tha... : alexkward
          • That's why you never see the guy who brought the knife to the gun fight... Because he's standing behin... : dedgecko
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            Bombarding a planet with rocks is not necessarily desirable. Yes, it kills any enemies there, but it als... : Arcanum
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              which puts you back into close range fighting again. Either you destroy a target, or you put soldiers ... : alexkward
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                That is entirely wrong. There is no reason to enter knife-fighting range of an enemy fleet if you can ch : Arcanum
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                  Oh I agree that defending is at a disadvantage. All I'm saying is that there is a functional limitati... : alexkward
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                    There is a limit, yes, but the difference between useful KE weapon ranges, useful energy weapon ranges, a... : Arcanum
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                      We are in definite agreement there. I guess the way I see it though is that a small ship in earth orbi... : alexkward
                      • Until we can rip open wormholes wherever we want, this is probably the likely situation as far as super l... : one random winner
                      • Orbital weapons systems are essentially useless for attacking anything that shoots back. You really can ... : Arcanum
  • Just cloak a 100Mt nuke and ram into the enemy. : Marrbe
• prediction algorithms would probably be necessary. : aldraek
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  Space battles aren't as cool without saying, "Launch fighters!" B5 had the best space combat in general.... : Sailor of Fortune
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    But instead you get "you may fire when ready" : DinK
    • I also like the standard classic, "Close blast shields!" then the characters back away from the windows h... : Sailor of Fortune
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    The Ur-Quan "launch fighters" soundclip is something i repeat to myself daily. : shyguy74
    • Oh, and Star Control space combat is the best, since you can bounce off planets. : shyguy74
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  kinetic weapons would be amazing because there would be no resistence against them to slow them down, so ... : ninjase
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinetic_bombardment#Real_life_concepts_and_theories : ninjase
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      Wouldnt those Project Thor rods just burn up on re-entry? : swimteampie
      • Nope. Tungsten doesn't evaporate easily, even as metal goes. The fact that they're aerodynamic rods mak... : Arcanum
• I think thin disc shaped ships would offer the most benefits. If you encounter an enemy on your broad sid... : dooberzoo
• Kinetic based weapons aren't totally useless. They can actually tear shit up if you think about it. ... : Hizzow
• and now....we die : Turd Ferguson
• Wave motion gun. : LemonJoose
• Rockets filled with buzz droids. : LemonJoose
• i would use star systems, or planets to block enemies. it would be like paintball. but with planets. 1 ... : radula
• Depends on what you mean by "space battles". Any space battles likely to be fought in the foreseeabl... : randomjgj
• Years ago people like you would be arrested as just a local "dealer." Now I have to go to Sci-Fi convent... : spyrext

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  why are you asking me to download a .flv movie named robinhood. : atom519
  • It's a Russel Crowe joke I think. : DooBall
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  Better link: http://www.apple.com/trailers/universal/robinhood/ : jason bergman
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    I'll pretty much watch anything with Russell Crowe in a historical setting, so yeah I'm going to see this... : riptyde
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      I'm the opposite. I can't explain why in any logical way, and I recognize that he is, technically speakin : Ctrl-Phreak
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        As a huge fan of the Master and Commander books, I am a huge fan of him in that movie. I think he nearly... : riptyde
        • I am not a Russel Crowe fan, but i thought he was great in Master and Commander. : stophelping37
        • Yeah I'm the same way, I like him in all the historical setting movies : kelerian
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        Because you're a man of poor character. Your life is probably still worth living, though. : action wombmate
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          we're going to have to agree to disagree here : riptyde
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            So he should go straight to seppuku, then? : action wombmate
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              too dignified. he should jump in front of a train : riptyde
              • D: : Ctrl-Phreak
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    any movie where cate blanchett plays the romantic lead is a instant miss for me. Woman is uglier than sin... : Fredrik S
    • you are gay. you are a gay man. : dirge23
  • QuackTime sucks. : LemonJoose
• hahah! that's exactly what i thought when i first saw it. : Korban
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  Ridley Scott is the greatest director of this or any generation. Do not debate, your argument is invalid. : skinlab133
  • Kubrick >* : Haku-Jin
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    Your castle was just set on fire by 200 archers working for Kurosawa. Then Beat Takeshi personally shot y... : AxeMan808
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      Let me destroy your world for you. Ready? Alien. Blade Runner. Gladiator. THANKS FOR PLAYING! : skinlab133
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        Ran, Seven Samurai, Kagemusha, Yojimbo, Sanjuro , Hidden Fortress, Throne Of Blood, Rashomon. You're jok... : AxeMan808
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          Are tear real movies? They sound like bad kung fu flicks. : Dessicator82
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            Tear * these Stupid iphone : Dessicator82
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              If you haven't seen Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, or Rashomon, you have no basis on which to speak about Great... : Modica Sol Solis
              • "Brother. I shall rely on you. <gun>" : AxeMan808
              • Mifune and Kurosawa were like Crow and Ridley, it seems? : spyrext
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              In 1964, Yojimbo was remade as A Fistful of Dollars, a spaghetti western directed by Sergio Leone and sta : MrBig0
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                several of his movies were made into very famous westerns : MrBig0
                • and there's this guy named Lucas..... : AxeMan808
        • favourite Seven Samurai line: "killed two." : Postal
        • the dude who directed The Story of Ricky just raped both of you in the face : ninjase
      • I laughed at this post because... shit, it's true! : spyrext
• If not for the title, you would never know that was a Robin Hood movie, But then again it's just a teaser... : Wyvern
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  Finally, a good Robin Hood flick. : lightly inclined
  • Do you find yourself to be heavily inclined to see this flick? : CrustaR
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    What was wrong with the: 1)the one with a catapult, evil alan rickman and a black friar tuck? 2) the o... : Klebold
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      1) Didn't have a black Tuck : action wombmate
      • well azeem then. but he still filled the boots of robin's right hand man. : Klebold
    • Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves was a fucking great film. Alan Rickman is awesome. : photonzach
    • "Unlike other Robin Hood's I have a British accent" : locater16
  • unless this movie a soundtrack as good as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGoWtY_h4xo it'll suc... : Cihte
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    The Kevin Costner one wasn't bad : sanchez
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      I remember seeing it a few times as a kid / teenager, and liking it every time. Maybe I should revisit it... : thecray
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        It's no masterpiece but enjoyable. : sanchez
        • agreed : Cheeziologist
      • It's still good. Worst part is the Bryan Adams music video in between. Just fast forward through that and... : K1Bond007
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    Hey now, Men in Tights is a great movie : Begawkiness
    • It was. : lightly inclined
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    EVERYTHING I DO : Bamtan
    • I DO IT FOR YOU : themaestro2657
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    Robin Hood: Men in Tights would like a word with you : aggressor
    • King illegal forest to pig wild kill in it a is! : chungathebunga
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  Robin's merry men look quite the opposite. : Klebold
  • Hahahahahahahahahahahahah : Serpico74
• I think Cate Blanchette is the most beautiful woman ever to exist. I actually get sad when I see her on s... : Cihte
• So in this new adaptation will Robin Hood be shooting cell phones at the Sheriff's men? : obiquatro
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  Is anyone else tired of "gritty reality" in movies? I love Ridley Scott but its like brown and grey are t... : Serpico74
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    Given how medieval england is a glorified bog and most structures are made out of stone, I am going to sa... : riptyde
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      See, that's the thing, reality. Its cool and everything but don't you think that its so limiting, that mo : Serpico74
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        Naturalism. : Marrbe
        • Yup, and as much as I like it, I'm also a bit tired of it being the mainstream stylistic norm for so long... : Serpico74
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        If I want a historical set piece, I generally want realism. When I want pretty colors, I'll go see Avata... : riptyde
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          "Realism" is also a stylistic construct, one that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with reality it : Serpico74
          • This is an excellent point. True "realism" in a lot of films or settings would make things excruciatingl... : action wombmate
        • Something tells me this movie won't be "realism" heavy. : soggybagel
      • I am so glad you linked this! I entirely agree, and am very happy to find someone articulate it so well.... : spyrext
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    I have to say that I'm not. I've seen a colorful Robin Hood movie, 1938's The Adventures of Robin Hood. : action wombmate
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      See, at this point I actually wouldn't mind a well done modern take on the story (or any other story) wit... : Serpico74
      • I'd also like to see that too, but that doesn't mean I mind the "realism" direction, either. I understan... : action wombmate
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        Thanks for sharing that essay, it's a good read and I'd wager that he's right about a imminent course cor... : action wombmate
        • Possibly. The pendulum swings both ways so who knows, maybe tastes will have shifted by then. : Serpico74
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    are you just talking about color schemes/choices or does it go beyond that? is sin city an example of "gr... : supersonic potato
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      Sin City is completely unreal and hyperstylized, it does not fall into that category at all. It is a reac... : Serpico74
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        Also, whoever figures out a good way to shoot a war scene that does NOT look like Saving Private Ryan wil : Serpico74
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          Step 1. Handheld cameras Step 2. In post heavily desaturate colors Step 3. Profit : soggybagel
          • 1.5. use that shutter trick that makes things look all sharp : action wombmate
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        ok, i kind of see what you mean about that style being overused. I guess the last two batmans used it too... : supersonic potato
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          Yeah, it isn't an instant dislike of the style, there are films that have used it that I absolutely love.... : Serpico74
          • true enough... i wonder though if you're expecting more of action movies than of other genres, it seems t... : supersonic potato
  • Im more sick of the modern horror movie "teal blue" tinting. God. I'm, so sick of that shit. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • I would not mind if Ridley Scott and Russell Crowe made a "gritty reality" take on a typical historical s... : dodob
  • Next Gen : MamiyaOtaru
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  anyone else notice the foam rubber shield flapping away in the scene where the knights are inexplicably r... : OhSnapHighFive
  • yeah : gmd
  • Looks like the same foam shields used in Kingdom of Heaven. :( : stump
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    seriously. how do they plan to legitimize knights in chainmail and wet...everything exiting the ocean to ... : OhSnapHighFive
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      The weapons used to make movies like this are very rarely the "real thing" anyways. You've probably seen... : action wombmate
      • That's what made LOTR cool, handmade metal chainmail and real spring steel swords : / : locater16
      • but this is the first one that made it obvious : OhSnapHighFive
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    At least we've come a long way since the historical war movies of the 70s-80s, where the two main guys ha... : riptyde
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      And maybe they did fight with foam shields back then. Were you there? you don't know! : riptyde
      • lol yes and they fought with FISH! not swords! I read my historical texts! Robin Hood was also a Fox in r... : OhSnapHighFive
  • How could they let that go?? : Utopia
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    fuck the haters. this movie looks fucking awesome. : epit
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      lol i'm not denying it's epicness, i'm just questioning their costume department....and also whoever is r... : OhSnapHighFive
      • Hey, it looked cool in Saving Private Ryan, why not have Robin Hood do it? : Serpico74
      • I bet it was that Ridley Scott dude. : DooBall
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    the foam shields were just placeholders. they'll be replaced with radios in the final cut. : festivalman
    • garghh.... the fucking walkietalkies. : Klebold
• This trailer does nothing for me and the weird metal esque music in it is fucking weird. : soggybagel
• i want them to make an entire movie that is like the opening scene of Gladiator : ninjase
• Rumors were that Crowe was to star in a sheriff of Nottingham movie where he played the title character. ... : dodob
• I have a MOLE?!?!! : AllYourBase

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• Some, but definitely not all. : dedgecko
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  I can tell when someone is about to drown to death in Sonic : bipolar
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TOkKttTkpo : bipolar
• Yes of course, why not? Music is one of the things that I love about games, which is why I indentify with... : avatar_58
• Certainly. I may not always know what section, but I can normally pick up the title of the game at least... : breadsticks
• Mega Man. Perfect example of this. I could tell which game and which level easily. : Duffman8369
• a lot of Goldeneye's music is like that : RikiTiki2
• Diablo, Zelda, and ya Metroid for me. : royalally
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  GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, Splinter Cell Chaos Theory, DOOM. : NFXFSX
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    Things like the music used in Facility and on the jungle level are classics, even though the facility mus... : Durajim
    • Probably the most played level for me. : NFXFSX
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  BATTLETOADS PAUSE SCREEN : xsoulbrothax
  • holy shit yes : royalally
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  Sonic 2, Final Fantasy VII, any Legend of Zelda game. : -hyroth-
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    FF7's "Hurry!" track gets my blood pumping every time. The remix in the Voices of the Lifestream OCRemix ... : Rehevkor
    • The song "Weapon Raid" does that for me. I want to destroy small towns every time I hear it. "Still More ... : -hyroth-
  • Ditto Sonic 2. Great ,distnctive tunes, ad played it a fuck load. : node
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  I personally wish developers made sound as important and as great as a impact as graphics and physix, goo... : valcan_s
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    I suppose a good question to ask is what's the newest game that has memorable music to it? Now that I th... : DHAvatar
    • Ya, seems like the older games are more memorable for sure. Sands of Time is a good one for sure, the ... : valcan_s
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      I really liked the music in Trine. It stood out to me. : Duffman8369
      • Ah good one! Agree for sure. Euro version of Devine Devinity 2 actualy is real catchy and good. So ... : valcan_s
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      Hate to say it, but WoW has some pretty damn good music. I almost came the first time I walked into Storm... : -hyroth-
      • I'd pick this. Especially the Burning Crusade stuff. : Marrbe
      • I think the mmos in general. LOTRO has some good tunes in it that will help you identify where a person ... : JuffoWup
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      Machinarium... This soundtrack is awesome. Kinda downtempo, ambient, glitchy, but all totally awesome. : inchwide
      • Yes! I listened to the soundtrack wayyy too many times after completing the game. : DrWaffles
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      World of Goo had a completely outstanding soundtrack that fit the game perfectly : veras
      • I agree. Specifically, the tumbler stage music is kind of representative of the entire game's atmosphere... : DrWaffles
      • It is an awesome soundtrack. And the devs put the mp3s out for free. <3 : Perturbation
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      50 Cent: Blood on the Sand was pretty memorable. lol. : xsoulbrothax
      • Agree good one, also Afro Samurai same gernera music, very well done actualy. : valcan_s
    • Mass Effect - I really liked the music in that game and it fit well with the atmosphere of the game. : c_man_tmt
    • Mass Effect, Viva Pinata, Little Big Planet, Dragon Age: Origins : kainen1
• Tons. I enjoy a lot of video game music. : omnova
• The most identifiable for me would be ....... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2evIg-aYw8 : triton666
• the megaman X and super ghouls and ghost first stage's come to mind http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Ft2... : stgdz
• Double Dragon. : Marrbe
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  DuckTales for the NES : Cheeziologist
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    Every play Rescue Rangers Chip and Dale, was epic at the time maybe even better than Mario dare I say. : valcan_s
    • Both 1 and 2 have memorable music. : Marrbe
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      I used to play that game every day, i got beating it down to 15 minutes or so. : corey
      • 15 mins! you are truley /337 that is a hard game, crazy. : valcan_s
    • oh god, that brings back the memories. : JuffoWup
  • Moon level! OMG! so epic! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hn72sqPP5gM : xsii
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRDmirJATKs : jermm
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  [Gunstar Heroes] Sega Genesis http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1O3yHHBPJZw BTW, great topic :) : valcan_s
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    Haha yes, definitely. The minibosses and "GO" sound make it especially easy to pinpoint where someone is ... : DrWaffles
    • I personally love the menu music with the rotating logo I could listen to that forever. Plus the boss ... : valcan_s
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  E1M1 : Johnny Law
  • Also: * The Siege of Madrigal (Myth, the mission of the same name) * Samuel Barber's Adagio For Strin : Johnny Law
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  contra, doom, megaman series (NES) : r3dn3ck
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    MEGAMAN FOR ME AS WELL : Dschinghis Khan
    • GOOD TO HEAR IT SEÑOR KHAN : r3dn3ck
• It's not music, but I can map out where anyone is in Q2DM1 using only pickup sounds :( : aggressor
• I can identify every screen in Dragon's Lair by sound :) : Spoetzl
• Duck Hunt : d fluke
• I can probably identify a lot of Actraiser through music alone. : shotgun1
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  Star Control 2 had a great soundtrack that identified every event. It was perhaps the games strongest fe... : icon_of_syn
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    Yeah and the space travel music is a cover from an 80's hit isn't it? : umegastar
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      the hyperspace one : umegastar
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        Not sure about it being a cover - don't think so. But there have been several remixes since. I think ... : icon_of_syn
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          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiSO_gJXNuw#t=2m45s : umegastar
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            :D : icon_of_syn
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              PS. That's the 3D0 version (due to the Spathi talking at the end) Either way - huzzah! : icon_of_syn
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                Still can't find the song of the 80's that's so similar to this one. From times to times I hear it in bar... : umegastar
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                  I'm curious to know the song you're talking about. Probably something from Tears for Fears (haha). Will... : icon_of_syn
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                    alright : umegastar
                    • Found It, but they aren't as similar as they sounded in my head. I kind of screwed up. http://www.yout... : umegastar
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  Goldeneye, Sonic 1 and 2, FFX. : Thisispol
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    add Diablo 2 to that as well. : Thisispol
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      Diablo 2 had music? all i heard was *CLICK* *CLICK* *CLICK**CLICK* *CLICK* *CLICK**CLICK* *CLICK* *CLICK*... : r3dn3ck
      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_BTyVyyCe0 : Thisispol
      • and my favorite http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdY2MxMo4-k : Thisispol
  • totally sonic 1 and 2. : at0micgarden
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  WoW. Assuming someone has the music turned on, I can tell what zone they are in. : tashtego
  • The first time I hear the music for Darnassus I was like "oh hell yes". It was the first city I made it t... : at0micgarden
• Pokemon! : jcrockerman
• When I was in 4th grade, my friend and I discovered Mega Man. When we wanted to play the game but couldn'... : David Craddock
• Donkey Kong Country! : Juno
• street fighter 2 : X-GOUKI
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  Bionic Commando - for sure I could tell you which levels play what song : flagg209
  • \m/ : skelom
• Xenogears, FF7, Ace Combat 5. : ArcKnight
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  Ultima IV's music is the most recognizable to me. I had probably logged 200+ hours into beating that game... : MatthewPhillips
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    The C64 music for Ultima IV is so awesome. I've played all of the other versions, and none of them can ma... : cygnus
    • ah nm, I did hear the C128 songs from U5 in midi form back in the day. : cygnus
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  Crazy Taxi! Ya Ya Ya Ya Ya Day after day your home life's a wreck The powers that be just breathe... : alphablu
  • parched cracked mouths, empty swollen guts sun baked pavement encroaches on us haves and have nots toge... : at0micgarden
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    Those songs always play in the same order, and it's like a mixtape permanently ingrained in my forehead. : Shadsy
    • Yeah i enjoyed the game a little too much and probably was exposed to the soundtrack for way too long, si... : alphablu
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  Earhtbound : getfrisky
  • Earthbound as well, also don't forget that the Mother 3/Earthbound 2 translation is complete. : Helios150
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  FF3, FF7, probably even Soul Blazer. And Actraiser, mentioned above. : J4NUS
  • Definitely on board with FF3 and FF7. I'll also second the Mega Man series and Metroid. Let me also add F... : FuryVII
• Pirates Gold for the Genesis. : mnsnota
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  Chrono Trigger : yAak
  • Yes to this. 600AD! : tcxsnoop
• Shadow of the Colossus. Each of the colossi and major events in the game has it's own very distinct theme... : SketchyFletchy
• Pretty much any track from Deus Ex.. : Broken Canoe
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  TIE Fighter The traveling toward your enemies music, the new enemies have entered combat music, the yo... : sanchez
  • There were a full three classes of each arrival music. My favorite is for the imperial side which used th... : LoioshDwaggie
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    I have that with X-Wing. And then I have "Here They Come" stuck in my head forever. http://www.youtube... : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • I love that whole scene : sanchez
• I could probably do that with Planescape. I seem to not listen to music any more, maybe it's just not as... : valael
• I can only do that with classic games. New games don't seem to have as memorable music. : melkore
• I can tell every Goldeneye level apart just by the music, even though it all sounds almost identical. Cla... : Shadsy
• The Final Fantasy arpeggios : EvilDolemite
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  I can do that for Baldur's Gate. : Vantage
  • I still hear the opening theme every time I start a RPG : umegastar
• My girlfriend was playing MW2 last night and this guy in the lobby starts going... GUYS GUYS GUYS... Wha... : getlefty
• Mega Man X, for sure. : ucanbfuzzy
• doom e1m1 and map01 : thecray
• Touhou, SF2 : Link.
• FFXI, definitely. Fucking Windurst music. GET OUT OF MY HEAD : Modica Sol Solis
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  Costa del Sol! : WhatIsThisFor
  • EOT here (Grim Fandango) : LoioshDwaggie
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  DOOM : SockMonkeh
  • IAWTDOOM : the archvile
• Castlevania 1, 2, 3, Super, Rhondo, and SOTN : SolrFlare
• Jurassic Park for the SNES had some of the best music to date IMO... : dtskull
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  Deus Ex, Half-Life, Sonic 2 and 3, Freedom Fighters : MercFox1
  • why not sonic 1? : umegastar
• Burnout, when the music stops :P : Snipergen