Morning Discussion

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  Is this game going to suck? It seems almost like destiny at this point. I know I'm making your job hard... : Boxelder
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    Why do you say that? It seems like it is going to be great... : Ender.Wiggin
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      Lot of reasons, but I'm short on time. Bioshock was awesome because the environment was so fresh and uni... : Boxelder
      • Being slightly nerdy here, but Ico got a sequel. In fact, the next one is coming out next year. : LoioshDwaggie
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    you aren't making my job harder. i don't think it sucks. i've got a biased opinion, but i'm not tired at ... : dahanese
    • I don't really think it will suck, that's just how I talk. I'm just doubtful of it living up tot he orig... : Boxelder
  • How is it destiny? Isn't the same team working on it? They added multiplayer, which could be questiona... : MaxPete82
  • This concern is always present when a sequel to a really fucking awesome game is coming out. Just keep in... : OverloadUT
  • The first Bioshock was a good enough game, good graphics, very atmospheric, but it lacked in many areas. ... : Mr. Goodwrench
• INF please : LoioshDwaggie
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  Haha you are so awesome : OverloadUT
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    Because I swear like 3 people in the world run that resolution : OverloadUT
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      yes and you are all on the shack and you all complain every time i make a new wallpaper. although i dr... : dahanese
      • Haha well 1920x1200 is a pretty common resolution nowadays. (5.57%, with 1280 x 1024 being most common at... : OverloadUT
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        Downsizing stuff that's the right aspect is fine. 3840x1200 versions that fit my dual 1920x1200 monito... : nudel
        • Hahah I love this : OverloadUT
    • :( i run that res... it's not that uncommon? : dextius
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  http://dl.dropbox.com/u/26101/Cult%20of%20Rapture%20-%20404%20Not%20Found.png : Kentor
  • I got that, then hit back and it was okay. Maybe there's more than one web server and they aren't all upd... : nudel
  • I got that too, maybe because you put an unreasonable date in the year for the age verification check? ... : boarder2
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    clear your cache. i just launched a massive redesign today, so if you've been before, you need to clea... : dahanese
    • Cache cleared. It's really quite pretty. : Kentor
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      i've never been to the site before, ever, and i got the 404 when i entered my birthday on the age gate : electroly
      • it says i should tell you that this was the address: /cultofrapture/age-gate.html?birthmonth=1&birthday=1... : electroly
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        Same here, but when I went back to the main page, it let me in. : helvetica
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          yeah, it doesn't pop up the age gate when you go back. the problem is with the age gate itself : electroly
          • age gate gate : Wheatloaf
    • ctrl-f5 is a quick and dirty way to accomplish the same fix :) : OverloadUT
    • On the scale of 0 to pretty, it is indeed pretty. Good site. Bioshock's art style is fantastic. : nudel
• awesome... i think the soiree one would make a fine print. : j0nchan
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  has anyone told you today that you are awesome? because you are awesome. : Phil
  • ^^^^^^^ : LoioshDwaggie
  • phil, you are awesome. super awesome, in fact. : j0nchan
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  Damn, Craig Mullens is awesome. Been a fan ever since he did Marathon stuff for Bungie. : gnomish
  • aging for Mullens, yeah his Marathon work was choice. : Amnesty_intl2
• nice. BTW make sure they don't screw up the FOV this time. :( : smax
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  Can you release it in 320x240? : kallanta
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    that's blackberry - it's up there! : dahanese
    • Dammit, too fast for me. Bravo, Speed! : kallanta
  • Thanks, by the way! Looks great! : kallanta
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  3360x1050 please! : mwasher
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    (serious request) : mwasher
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      no (serious answer) : dahanese
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        k, thanks anyways : mwasher
        • Anyways isn't a word : ateam311
      • this was a really funny post for some reason. : noobja
• excellent, bioshock art makes for some excellent wallpapers : megarust32
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  Fucking age gate. Direct link? : Ebu
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    looks like you'll have to wait until your 18, no other way around it. : headbone
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      you can put a fake age : Utopia
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        WOAHHHHHHH *mind blown* : mwasher
        • *men washed* : Whistler77
      • I am a Vulcan. I cannot lie. : nakedsavage
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    click Back when you're on the 404 page; it won't pop up the age gate the second time : electroly
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      Yes it did. : Ebu
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        change "won't" to "didn't for me", then :P seemed to work for the others having problems : electroly
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          My problem was the age gate. Not an error upon playing the stupid, pointless, time-wasting game. :( : Ebu
          • I know. The 404 after you submit on the age gate? It's broken (the page that it posts to doesn't exist)... : electroly
• thanks! fits the 27-inch iMac nicely :) : Postal
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  Fuck Age Gates. : massdev
  • seriously : virus
• Sweet, got me a new background :D Thanks! : Whistler77
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  Do you have any access to the age verification stuff on the website? I'm curious if there's a large amoun... : Prozium
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    i could look it up, but you're probably right. ESRB requirement, yo. : dahanese
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      What happens if you just tell the ESRB to go fuck itself since any person over the age of 5 is able to by... : Ecks
      • My guess is the ESRB won't give their game a rating which also means that most retailers won't carry it. : Prozium
      • you can't tell the ESRB that. i guess you could try, and they could then punch me in the cunt. proverbial... : dahanese
• I could kiss you about the face. Hello, 1959. : Alice O'Connor
• I have to applaud you for not sticking some stupid "Bioshock" logo on these and ruining them. Well, 3/5 i... : Ellissd
• I love the 1959 image. : steauengeglase
• my monitor is only HD Ready will this work : indosauros
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  you did all this? you actually do the web stuff? : industro
  • yeah, i work in the web department. i do all the interactive marketing and community for the company. ... : dahanese
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  Here it is on my 27" iMac looks nice http://www.shackpics.com/files/iPhoneUpload_1le7wvza697ubcv67fa6.jpg : hirosushima
  • First day with my new one, its dreamy : Serpico74
• 1080p is a nice res if your making a list. : capt tripps
• Awesome. Much appreciated! : eXcess

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  I only know GRANATA is grenade. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    I thought they were talking about a nice vacation spot. : zebosausamite
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      Maaarge, is Lisa at Camp Grenada? : mikecyb
      • I just entered my name. THRILLHO : soggybagel
• ya, that always kinda bugged me too : slickdoody
• hahahahahhahahaha BAH BEEEE! rack of meat"·!$$%·· : ErneX
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  Tango, sucka! : Grimp
  • That's the one that makes me laugh. : sigpro
  • That's my favorite. : sogelegos
• They don't have captions in English? Weird. : shurcool
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  there's another that goes like: frishka, we're all going to Ibiza" : ErneX
  • AHhaha : zebosausamite
• Halt! Komenzeib! Aus Pass! Heil! : AxeMan808
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  Oh, and I think something like, "Granda-jomal" or something is another. : zebosausamite
  • Big explosion : doomed
• ten inch torsiona! : d3tached
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  If they yelled in English you would complain anyway : doomed
  • My main complain is entirely my fault for buying the game thinking that it would include the english voic... : ErneX
• Venti Mocha Frap! : fathertime
• Not balanced for English voiceovers : PointlesS76
• Haha when I hear that Bahby! I immediately think of this guy with his arms flailing around: http://randaz... : hoov1185
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  Spetsnaz: Spyshka (pronounced spish-kah) = Flash (Grenade) Granatu = Grenade Brasayu Stun Granat... : rgoer
  • Woah nice, INF'd. : hoov1185
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    Figured it was all listed somewhere. : zebosausamite
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      I will never stop hearing "rack of meat" : zebosausamite
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        Which one is that? : hoov1185
        • Vrag Ubit = Enemy killed (A lot of people think they’re saying “Barack O.B.” - nope, t : zebosausamite
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        I heard it as "Broccoli Beef!", which always made me hungry for chinese food. : deveus1
        • Oh jesus, just reading that made me hungry. : zebosausamite
  • "Your modaaaaaaaaaa" Haha, I forgot about this one. : Grimp
  • That's pretty cool. Also, didn't Nitrium say that they used the local equivalent of total redneck for the... : geedeck
  • nice! : maulla
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    rgoer shouldn't you playing some 10 year old call of duty : Foxhawk
    • CoD4 MP is actually better than MW2 MP : rgoer
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    no wonder the us army is king. everyone else is still trying to finish speaking their long ass words! : spiderfill
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      I was in a heated hardcore HQ match coming down to the wire when all of a sudden I hear "Danger Close!" f... : r_picmip 5
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        i beat real soldiers have their own real phrases and those terms are all just an elaborate joke : spiderfill
        • "oscar mike" is just pop culture getting PUNK'D by Evan Wright, what they really said was "we movin" : rgoer
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    haha the OpFor shit is always hilarious. I find myself always yelling TANGO SUCKA!!! : DooBall
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      TANGO SUCKAAAAAA! : rgoer
      • Bobby! Tango sucka! : spiderfill
    • lol same : royalally
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    i thought "Aapareceu derrepente" was the equivalent of "enemy spotted" : vrocket
    • quite possible, but it's still the wrong thing to yell when throwing a flashbang : rgoer
    • Portuguese to english translation "apareceu de repente" "apareceu" means something or someone showe... : doomed
  • the portuguese phrases are so badly translated/pronounced, i wonder who recorded them : awaypaster
• Yeah, it starts to grate after a while. Battlefield 2 did it right by allowing you to toggle everything ... : r_picmip 5
• No toggle? yikes... : Jiven
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  I don't speak the other languages as well but I think it's still pretty clear what they are saying. : razlebol
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    It is my biggest complaint and I consider it a slap in the face!!!!! RAGE!!!!!!~!%^!^ SO ANGRY AND SERIO : zebosausamite
    • haha : razlebol
• I fucking love "BAHBBY!!". Also, brazilians keep saying something that sounds like "aparecio derrepente" ... : stuka
• Are you kidding me that's the best part of the game. GRANATA!!! : TheVietSpecial

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• YAY!! I did my part today, by playing a mostly Soldier ubering Medic; as opposed to yesterday, when I pla... : AxeMan808
• Damn, that's a lot. Guess I have to step up in playing demo. : Cheeziologist
• praise xenu!!!!!! from the servers I was hopping, it was looking BAD. : Downforce
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  Where are you seeing the stats? I just see "--" instead of a number. : Robotic Puppy Eater
  • refresh the page : Godhatesfatpeople
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  I'm kind of surprised, I would have predicted that the demomen would rape the soldiers. I guess all the ... : mikecyb
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    That and most soldier players need help from a healbot medic :3 : Godhatesfatpeople
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      though I will say that as far as ease of play goes, whenever I play demoman (which is not often) it's rea... : mikecyb
      • That strat only works for a very short time. Even if you camp a specific area you know people "might" pas... : Godhatesfatpeople
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        Question: Are these kills counted only when done by the opposite class, or by any class? : yacoub35
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          opposite only. red demo must kill a blu soldier to get 1. assists DO NOT COUNT (from what I could tell) ... : Downforce
          • Ah, okay. Thanks for the info! : yacoub35
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    I'm no TF2 grand-master, but in my experience the Demo, while a more versatile class, just doesn't have t... : ninj0rc
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      Not really. Thats the thing, a lot of soldiers I have come across have horrible aim. They heavily rely on... : Godhatesfatpeople
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        Just because you're a good Demoman doesn't mean that it's easier for the class in general to kill Soldier... : ninj0rc
        • I didnt say there aren't any bad demos. Because there is plenty. : Godhatesfatpeople
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    how is anyone surprised. demomen are not very good 1v1 soldiers should easily win this. : papaskot
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      I dunno, because I have seen quite a few incredible demomen but only a handful of soldiers who are able t... : mikecyb
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        Well you've got alot of people playing Demos and Soldiers that normally wouldn't be just because of this ... : smax
        • oh yeah I agree, and I said as much! soldier is much easier to pick up and play, I was just thinking of ... : mikecyb
  • Because of the way they set it up it will always be very close I think. Even though I'm seeing many more... : smax
• Go Soldiers GO! : .frame
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  I havent been keeping up with this, does "winning" the war actually get that class an extra unlock or is ... : maulla
  • I'm under the impression that the "winner" gets an extra unlock. : DrWaffles
  • yah i think winning = getting unlocks first : Shadowdane
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    each class has 3 unlocks. There is a seventh "super" unlock that will go to whichever class gets the most... : Cheeziologist
    • Well then starting to tonight i'm jumping in to rep the soldiers : Phreakin
    • I'm hoping your personal war contribution will lead to a reward. Like a hat or medal or something. : smax
• This only proves that Demomen need the update more. lol. : pigvomit
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  I seem to notice that there are more people who play soldier over demoman. Seems a little unfair to me. : NeoMoose
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    Wouldn't that mean more fodder for the demomen :P Demomen generally have a higher kills/hr ratio. : DrWaffles
    • Yea but against what classes. Probably engy, scout, etc. Head to head battles of demo vs soldier when 2... : ant_hillbilly
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    good fuck demomen entirely!!!! one demoman can catch up the count by using kritzkrieg anyway, soldiers go... : Downforce
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      lol : Godhatesfatpeople
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        demomen were pulverizing everything on the servers I played on. medics were attached to them like glue. b... : Downforce
        • Thats funny it was the total opposite for me. On 3 different servers too. Though I always ride solo. : Godhatesfatpeople
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      It's simple math: Demo = 8 stickies+4 nades, for 12/40 explosive rounds, Soldier = 4 rockets, for 4/20 ex... : AxeMan808
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        I love how easy of an equation this turns out to be when you exclude all the other fire and situations. M... : Godhatesfatpeople
        • I know! And medics don't like ubering soldiers! : AxeMan808
  • It's an easier class to get into. : Godhatesfatpeople
• I reinstalled TF2 last night, will probably fire it up this weekend. Though it's been so long since I pl... : Ride-My-Rocket
• Well of course the noobier class will have more kills. : sammyl
• Does anyone have any idea where I can extract that new Start Menu background from? I tried looking but co... : Godhatesfatpeople
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  More soldier kills = More people are playing demomen. So, actually, the more popular class is losing. : snuff
  • By soldier kills, I mean demomen deaths. : snuff
  • And I just joined a server, holy fuck 75% demoman population, nade spam everywhere... : snuff
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  Good news everybody! This means after the soldier and demonen unlocks all we have left is the engineer... : ant_hillbilly
  • i might play the game again when that happens! : re4ctor
• I wish TF2 wasn't uninstalled on my PC due to a HD failure that was my fault :( : Amnesty_intl2

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  new instruments, maybe. a keyboard instrument could work. : dirge23
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    also i'd like to see a Rock Band RPG : dirge23
    • That would be awesome. I never thought a Bejeweled RPG (Puzzle Quest) would be as addictive as it is but ... : pyide
    • I pretend Lego Rock Band is an RPG. : Deathlove
    • Brutal Legend Quest : jake
  • there's already a keyboard game! Keyboardmania by Konami : AllYourBase
  • http://www.synthesiagame.com/ : DrWaffles
  • yes! Rock Band - Billy Joel / Elton John : vynn
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  more players - more singers (lead and backup), the'yve said rb3 trying to make instruments more realistic... : fathertime
  • beatles can do 3 singers, which is ridiculously fun : RikiTiki2
  • the more singers has already been done (beatles rock band) : skelom
• Rock Band Network : pancake humper
• Actual instruments. : CrustaR
• Absolutely! More character customization, more elaborate "campaign" modes. Better drop-in-drop-out party ... : OverloadUT
• Guns and a snowboard. : DooBall
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  waggle controls : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    Oh and they need plastic trumpets for Ska Hero. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      only need 3 buttons! (and a lip tension sensor? not passing that one around at parties...) : NexusOne
      • Herpes will be a feature in Ska Hero 2. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Symphony Hero with 64 instruments and a Wii conductor. : DHAvatar
  • ^^ this : robbomc
  • that would actually be really cool. probably way more niche than any other music game though. first one i... : Psigun
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  I think adding much more to the actual gameplay as the Neversoft GH games tried to do just ends up overco... : Begawkiness
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    Good and simple eventually leads to boredom. They have to find ways to continiously improve the platform ... : Ellissd
    • Outside of doing a completely new method of playing the songs, including coming out with entirely new ins... : Begawkiness
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      I disagree! The variety comes from the song selections, at least for me. If you've ever played an actual ... : Bold
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        Now that I think about it, I do need "constant change and improvement" to enjoy myself playing an "actual... : Ellissd
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          Wouldn't that be the same with GT5 or Madden 10, assuming you played those same games every time you had ... : Bold
          • Yea, that's fair. : Ellissd
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  Back to the days of interesting gameplay, like Guitaroo Man and Bust-A-Groove. : Borzoi
  • Exactly! As much as i like guitar hero and rock band, they're severely limiting the genre. We don't need ... : sammyjojo
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    I recently went back and played gitaroo man and was not terribly impressed : DeBurgo
    • the music is a little off the wall, but the gameplay mechanic never gets old for me. The silly story is f... : Borzoi
  • I always thought Guitar Hero/Rock Band was a step down from Amplitude. : datoo
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  How about allowing you to plug any guitars with pickups? The game could somehow analyze the waves sent by... : mnok
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    I don't know about games, but there are programs that do this. I used to use a program called "VocalLab"... : electroly
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      "SmartMusic" is HUGE in the music ed world right now: http://www.smartmusic.com/Default.aspx I use it... : Bold
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        Holy shit, thank you for this! : Ebu
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          Wait, does this require the teacher version as a "server" or is the student version standalone? : Ebu
          • The student version is standalone. Annual subscription is $30. The "teacher version" just adds a gradeboo... : Bold
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            GRRRR NO GUITAR? : Ebu
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              Ok, please tell me I'm blind and that this program does in fact support the Guitar. :( : Ebu
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                No idea. It's mainly used for band instruments, and that's the majority of the repertoire available for i... : Bold
                • Boo. I wouldn't mind picking up Violin, though. : Ebu
  • Yeah video game controllers are useless plastic pieces of shit! : OverloadUT
• Yep First they can make the plastic instruments more like their real life counterparts. Second they c... : locater16
• It'll end up like racing games, perhaps - they'll continue to get much better, but it'll be the details t... : GilesH
• Rockband record labels, complete with slimy executives. And when do I get my copy of Heroin Hero? : r_Ed
• Did no one say speech recognition? : derelict515
• the keytar : bipolar
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  I want one simple change to the drums -- for the cymbal hits to have a different symbol (heh), maybe like... : Arctic Fox
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    yeah, symbol add ons are worthless to me if they don't correspond to a unique note in the actual chart. : derelict515
    • I like the freedom to do a little freestyling by choosing which pad to hit : OverloadUT
  • Huh, maybe it's just by background as a drummer, but I never have this problem. If it's a green note at t... : Bold
• MMO Think London Symphony Orchestra. Each raid boss is a giant douchebag critiquing your shit. : walker270
• Plug-in compatibility with a new generation of real instruments that would actually help teach you how to... : kallanta
• I really wish I could just pop a CD in and the game automatically makes up tracks for me. :( : virus
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  On of these versions of Guitar Hero has to let you fuck the groupies at some point. For purposes of more... : LemonJoose
  • The peripheral would be a wireless-enabled blow-up doll with sensors in the various orifices to see how w... : LemonJoose
• The fucking trash heap I hope. : Mr. Goodwrench
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  A FOG MACHINE FUCK YEAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!! : DrWaffles
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    Already done: http://www.amazon.com/Xbox-360-Rock-Band-Stage-Kit/dp/B001FVH6L4 : Ely
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      Video of it in action. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHna2yRtXnY : Prozium
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        how much is it? That would be such an awesome gift. : Ellissd
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          They normally sold for $99 but can be found for $20-50 depending on how much the store has it marked down... : Prozium
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            I am going to fucking do this : OverloadUT
            • Best Buy you say : OverloadUT
            • I can'tbelieve you didn't have one already! Poseur! : Deathlove
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      Fuuuuuck I forgot about this. I forgot that I wanted it a lot. I need to fucking get this. : OverloadUT
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        Holy shit it's like $40 cheaper than when I last looked at it! : OverloadUT
        • It's only $30 BUT THEY DON'T MAKE A PS3 VERSION. NOOO : Ellissd
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  They can become their own platform instead of requiring a console. : WhatIsThisFor
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    I think they could also add RPG elements and more story. I'd probably be much more interested in one of ... : WhatIsThisFor
    • Another idea, give me the ability to plug in a real guitar or bass. : WhatIsThisFor
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    Then put it next to the See n Say at all supermarkets and be done with this whole retarded fad when every... : Bhaalspahn
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      I can't tell if it's a fad or not. I guess DDR came and went so too might this. : WhatIsThisFor
      • To be fair, DDR was shitty versions of songs and each new iteration tended to carry more and more bizarre... : Vincent Grayson
• I think they could do a lot more with the online modes to make it feel like a real performance. Just bein... : BlackCat9

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  MMOs were designed as a complete and total form of escapism to help nerds live in another world apart fro... : Zek
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    No, it definitely is not. The mainstream approach Blizzard has taken has inducted the "brah" factor into... : R@zzle
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      I really have no idea what you're talking about, what about the game is it that you think made the commun... : Zek
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        http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=287 : R@zzle
        • first of all i <3 VGcats and this strip is 100% spot on : m0rfus
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          Still not seeing what that has to do with WoW. Unless this is just the way you stereotype everybody that ... : Zek
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            What i think Razzle is trying to say is that by making the game more accessible and socially acceptable y... : Xanthos
            • Thank you!!!! : R@zzle
            • Yup. : zebosausamite
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              But you're free to create a guild of hardcore nerds and play with no one but them. Nothing about the game... : Zek
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                The point is that the quality of the "general populace" seems to have dropped significantly with the incr... : Xanthos
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                  EQ/AC/etc and a destructive lifestyle go hand-in-hand, that's how MMOs were designed to be played back th... : Zek
                  • I completely disagree about how the game was designed to be played in a destructive lifestyle, that was j... : Xanthos
            • HERE HERE!! : m0rfus
            • WHERE IS MANK.... :: gunshots :: : squigiliwams
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      With all due respect, i have to say: Blow it out your ass. The difficulty in wow is much lower than it... : squigiliwams
      • yes. you mentioned the 'community' not the gear, but 9 times out of ten when i talk to someone about what... : squigiliwams
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        You sound a little defensive. The point of annoyance over shitty players getting easiest access to epic ... : R@zzle
        • I remember when having a purple or two was a big thing during MC (before BWL), now Purples are just blues... : Derringer
  • MMO's died with Everquest IMO : technotica
  • and WoW is just EQ+ : technotica
  • Oh noes, I died and lost xp because of a shity nonskill based class system and thats the only form of pun... : technotica
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  I miss old school EQ sometimes. Where dying actually had a penalty and it was sometimes hard to get your... : retardhumper
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    UO was even better! After death they looted your corpse, could cut you up, and even cook parts to make b... : zebosausamite
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      Omg, could one really do that? That sounds awesome! : code-e255
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        Yup. When another player ambushed you while you were fighting NPCs, you would turn into a ghost, and you... : zebosausamite
        • lol and youd be pissed and spouting out a bunch of OoooOOoooOo ooOoO oOO's... the best was oOO (rez) U... : technotica
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      "UO was even better!" UO was the only MMO... : technotica
      • ... but then n00bz cried and MMO gaming was changed forever... for the worse... : technotica
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    I remember dropping from level 50 to 47 due to bind loop deaths in Plane of Fear lol : breadsticks
    • I bet you weren't loling then, lol : ecclesio
    • Omg :( Failed Plane raids were baaaaad! : code-e255
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    ^^ THIS is one aspect i am referring to. : m0rfus
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      Lack of a real death penalty is a huge flaw in a lot of games. : zebosausamite
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        Lack of actual DIFFICULTY in a game is a huge flaw. Any idiot can get to 80 and still not know shit about... : Xanthos
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          MMOs that make it stupidly difficult to get to level cap can suck my hairy dick. There's nothing fun abo... : electroly
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            Needs WoW hardcore servers. : zebosausamite
            • i would LOVE to see a FULL PvP server in WoW with stat penalties for death. i would play and enjoy it a l... : m0rfus
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            There is a sense of achievement. If you say wow has the right idea by appealing to casual players, you fo... : Xanthos
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              WoW as a game does have depth, it's had a bunch of really hard high-end dungeons. It's only recently that... : Zek
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                My point being that at least in wow you have to weed out all the idiots before you can find a half decent... : Xanthos
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                  not really. if you're any good you'll be in a guild, and you won't even be considering pugs. the presen... : electroly
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                    then take my post and replace group with guild, same point applies. : Xanthos
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                      i'm sure if EQ had twelve million players, you'd have to sort the wheat from the chaff there, too. but t... : electroly
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                        Sorting the wheat from the chaff in a difficult game is entirely different than doing so in an easy game.... : Xanthos
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                          you can find out in 1 boss in 1 heroic dungeon whether someone is good or not. it's easy. it takes five... : electroly
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                            I can't talk to Aion, I have never played it. Seeing how little talk there is of it here, I never will. ... : Xanthos
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                              Seeing how little talk there is of it here, I never will. you know why this is? because it's too dam : electroly
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                                The more we talk the more you're sounding bitter about Aion. I obviously can't comment much on it but I f... : Xanthos
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                                  I don't know if "bitter" is the right word, but disappointed might be. It was too difficult to level to : electroly
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                                    I'll take your word that Aion is hard, that's great. I didn't say every game has to be the hardest MMO to... : Xanthos
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                                      I did say it was one of the primary reasons. I fully believe that if WoW was significantly harder to lev : electroly
                                      • Yeah, I've written why WoW is so good (and compelling) a few times, usually covering a specific system an... : LoioshDwaggie
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                                  Didn't play FFXI for more than five levels but I'm sure it's true that WoW has many more healers per capi... : Zek
                                  • True, but thats a point on game design and yet another thing that WoW did very smartly, not exactly the s... : Xanthos
  • i completely miss it. today's MMOs are completely worthless to me. if a mmo can match asheron's call's Pv... : feek
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  I miss the Quake/Quake II community from the late 90's. I don't think any game community has matched up ... : giant boy detective
  • The Duke3D community on TEN (or Kali) was very similar to the Quake 1 community. Great times. : dex.collins
  • When I was in high school I worked at a local ISP and we ran a few quake 1 servers. So much fun handling... : zebosausamite
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  My guild brings this up all the time. Since EQ, the camaraderie is basically dead in mmo's, least in par... : breadsticks
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    On one hand I'd agree, but EQ was far more cutthroat in general than WoW. Can you imagine the WoW populat... : Talonus.
    • Ahhh, racing for Plane of Fear :D : breadsticks
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      EQ was more competitive, but the community was far more tightly knit than WoW ever has been. I'd take an ... : dex.collins
      • Yeah, in EQ, guilds really meant something. Breadstick's right about WoW players "jumping ship" all the t... : code-e255
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        You are also dealing with a lot less people. At it's peak EQ had something like 300k or a bit more subscr... : Chod
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          EQ peeked at 500k+ subscribers. : Frozen Pixel
          • Still very small comparatively, so much easier to have tight nit communities. With millions that starts t... : Chod
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      Good ole' PoP back-flagging for recruits.... : rmjackson
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        I'm so glad I quit during Luclin. I don't think I could tolerate backflagging. : dex.collins
        • GoD backflagging was the fucking worst... grr fuck that expansion. : rmjackson
  • Why would you stick with a guild that you were unhappy with? : daVinci1980
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  i hate it when people get stuck in the past. theres tons of subcultures and subgenres to explore and more... : spiderfill
  • the past is where i come from and the basis of experiences with games. more-so, it seems there is a t... : m0rfus
  • That doesn't mean that people can't want an updated and expanded, yet true-to-form version of something t... : zebosausamite
• probably because then people played games because they liked them, whereas now 1 guy likes the game, drag... : thebigbeefsandwich
• In wow you can do instances and even be in guilds without ever really talking or getting to know anyone. ... : d3tached
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  The one thing I hate is how they've killed solo exploration with zoning and instancing. One of my favorit... : Rehevkor
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    I agree with this. I used to love playing UO and run into a dungeon and find a team of guys fighting a b... : Omaha
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      ya it was great wasnt it? I remember the first time i ever played UO. It blew my mind and all i was do... : technotica
      • I also remember the "Bone Wall" in Deciet... I actually tried to get that started back up again a few yea... : technotica
    • This PK guild I was in "666" would chase down groups of skilled "good guys" and steal all their pouches i... : technotica
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    play eve : spiderfill
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      I did the trial. Exploring a huge vacuum with a few rocks and sparkly lights here and there isn't that in... : Rehevkor
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        youre doing it wrong. like REALLY wrong : spiderfill
        • oh man are you missing the point of the ga oh god i got to go outside and get some air : spiderfill
        • Thanks for enlightening me. : Rehevkor
      • Well, in a video game anyway. Now if I had my own FTL spacecraft... : Rehevkor
• I say the camaraderie is still there, it's just not fueled by the shared frustration of the inadequacies ... : Home Nugget
• most of it probably has to do with the early 90's being almost 20 years ago now. times change and people... : QMS|superdave
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  lol : geedeck
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    And by lol I mean that commercialism is fairly irrelevant expect that it makes a richer, larger market an... : geedeck
    • exactly. this was what i was saying (except the part about his nuts) : spiderfill
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      sorry G-man, i dont see the comparision of "music back in the day" and "gaming back in the day" as apples... : m0rfus
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        I disagree with Xanthos' points too! A community is whatever you make of it. Small communities just n... : geedeck
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          I disagree that with your point that a community is what you make of it. You can't reform a community lik... : Xanthos
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            Ah but I still politely disagree! WoW *can* still be awesome, but you have to have an awesome guild a... : geedeck
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              I agree with that, but the point there is that you're finding a subset of the community to love instead o... : Xanthos
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                i really think you're vastly overstating how difficult it is to find good people to play with in-game. ... : electroly
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                  I haven't played WoW since WotLK was released, a bit before that i think. Been a while. I'm not saying... : Xanthos
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                    i'm suggesting that your argument doesn't hold water because you're over-exaggerating. it's really not d... : electroly
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                      or, to put it another way: of the people who don't make it to level cap in a game with difficult leveling... : electroly
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                        This is the same basic argument as you had up above, why separate it? I don't care that people COULD b... : Xanthos
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                          it expedites it by discouraging the vast majority of players, many of whom would have become competent pl... : electroly
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                            stop being so bitter about a difficult game. I didn't say you have to make them play Aion and cry, i simp... : Xanthos
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                              Do you have any specific examples, then? All you've done is cited FFXI and made vague points about thres... : electroly
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                                FFXI is the only game that really has done anything like this that i've played (or really know of) so its... : Xanthos
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                                  It sounds like you're just describing low-level dungeons? Sure, your first time in RFC you're not going : electroly
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                                    Its similar, but a bit more complex than that. In a game that focuses as much on solo gameplay as WoW ... : Xanthos
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                                      I don't see any particular benefit to waiting until level cap, but I don't think it hurts anything either... : electroly
                                      • This kinda reminds me that WoW actually was trying this at one point. There used to be (Warrior at 10, Wa... : LoioshDwaggie
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        i think what the whiners are actually saying is they wished they were 16 again and it was 1998 again. or ... : spiderfill
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          While it is true that the path from counterculture to mainstream culture blows for those who enjoyed the ... : dex.collins
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            i guess they just need to be willing to be a part of a more specific and narrow subculture. yeah i can se... : spiderfill
            • So why not play Dwarf Fortress or Mount & Blade or Killing Floor or Doukutsu or Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup ... : geedeck
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      And yet most things are clones of other games. At least around 2000, there were a lot of truly unique PC ... : Toth21
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        All those you cited were re-treads of other games! They all have forbearers! All! (Freespace1/2, tach... : geedeck
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          I would not say that Tribes came from Quake. Yes it was an FPS, but it was a completely different type of... : LoioshDwaggie
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            It's still a first person perspective where you communicate your networked disdain via projectile weapons... : geedeck
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              Huh, never heard of Uprising. Impressive that I missed a PC game :( : LoioshDwaggie
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                Yeah same here, never even heard of uprising. : Toth21
                • It had a special 3DFX version. :( It was awesome and even in 1997 I couldn't get anyone to play it. W... : geedeck
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              The thing that made Tribes what it was was the mobility. Jetpacks on everybody with momentum-based travel... : Zek
              • I don't know, I remember having take bases apart to win the rounds rather fondly. Using aerial transports... : Toth21
            • clearly not an evolution because no one is doing it anymore OHHHHHSNAAP : spiderfill
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          Ok genres != clones. Dante's Inferno is a God of War clone, but C&C Renegade can hardly be called a Team ... : Toth21
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            Well, I'm not saying they weren't great games. And you can specifically see me cite my love for Tribes ab : geedeck
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              Hardly, painless broadband, and multi/co-op != gameplay creativity. Its the natural extension of the matu... : Toth21
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                I don't know what to tell you man. I think you've made up your mind regardless of any perspective I bring : geedeck
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                  Lol and I think you've made up your mind as well. Please your being general, why don't you show me how Dw... : Toth21
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                    Okay you just said Dwarf Fortress doesn't really have depth, which is kind of like saying the Pope is a c... : geedeck
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                      The qualities inherent in the games I listed? Oh also I never directly said Dwarf Fortress doesen't ha... : Toth21
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                        Oh crap Dungeon Keeper 1/2, man the list goes on. : Toth21
                        • I'm not saying there weren't great games. But there are great games being made today too. Like can you qu... : geedeck
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                    Dwarf Fortress...less depth...than Tribes....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA : Arcanum
                    • I never said that about Dwarf Fortress, I have never played it. I just don't feel its relevant to the poi... : Toth21
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                im curious now. what do you believe was the last great innovative game to be released? : spiderfill
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                  Company of Heroes by far. Best MP RTS I have played in years, quite innovative and draws me back again an... : Toth21
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                    yea awesome game. so it sounds like youre primarily a PC gamer? : spiderfill
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                      Yeah I had a Wii/360/PS3, but sold them all after my divorce about a year ago. Don't feel like I've misse... : Toth21
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                        i agree with your argument somewhat as a generalization, but i think youll find that a lot of what you co... : spiderfill
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                          Well give me some examples? I'm not as closed minded as geedeck is suggesting. Better yet give me enough ... : Toth21
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                            i think eve online is a miracle of game design in a million ways. cod modern warfare multiplayer does ha... : spiderfill
                            • Hmm I can't say I agree with a lot of those *personally*, but yes I agree there are still gems. Certainly... : Toth21
          • One of the few posts worthy of praise as of recent on the shack, seriously. Although I think the OP is... : Amnesty_intl2
      • There are still just as many original games coming out today. In fact there are FAR FAR more original gam : OverloadUT
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  Very few developers have an actual sense of community anymore. Valve is really the only big name PC devel... : freakynipples69
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    just because they're not talking to YOU doesnt mean there arent tons of developers with community : spiderfill
    • You know, this is kinda silly. Blizzard is about the most community-facing developer around (them and Val... : LoioshDwaggie
• I can't speak for MMOs, but man is the FPS scene just night and day different. People who played FPSs ten... : stratedge
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  Hahah every single fucking generation talks about how it was better in the "good 'ol days" : OverloadUT
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    That's silly. Our gaming now days is so much more satisfying than it used to be. A lot of those games bac... : LoioshDwaggie
    • Exactly. People have always been blinded by nostalgia. : OverloadUT
    • remember 2008? man that was an epic year. so much better than 2009 : spiderfill
• m0rfus: back in the days of EQ and Asheron's Call, there was much more AWE in every corner you took. Prim... : jane911
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  I agree 100% and in 10 years from now it will be even more so. (commercialized) I used to strive for t... : technotica
  • Oh and I cant forget about the new Castlevania coming out. Thats another one im really looking forward to... : technotica

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  as others pointed out last night, gamefly needs to fire their ad networks until they get this shit straig... : slickdoody
  • I like how all the ads underneath the lattest chatty link now roll out some giant ass banner blocking the... : ghost in my shell
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    Yeah, the excuse they're throwing out is pure bullshit, too. No matter what contracts are signed, you al... : foo
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      This. I hate to pile on the band wagon, but ads with viruses are completely unacceptable. I have a hard : Ormsbee
      • WinChatty. I visited the shacknews site for the first time the other day (since the ads issue started), ... : foo
    • I'm going to echo ra1n's sentiment, which I agreed with then, and I still agree with: This is probably : Bean
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    That's very true. I'm sure that as soon as it gets shut down the a/v assholes will just move and do it ag... : ThomW
    • Yeah, if the ad network is lax enough to allow this in the first place then I don't see the point of trac... : nudel
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    Gamefly either has the most retarded ad contract in history, or is flat out lying to us. : Arcanum
    • Yep. Its bullshit. : Robotic Puppy Eater
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  the screenshot isn't good enough. They need the ad that redirected you over there. : redfive
  • That's why I said about keeping the developer tools window open. : ThomW
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    YES.CLICK ON THE AD BANNER SO THEY GET ALL THE INFORMATION!!! FFS, this is ridiculous : Phreakin
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      Yeah. Damn those bastards for trying to figure out the ad's source. It must just be a money making scheme... : Danny5225
      • We already know the ad's source. Its the ad company they have a contract with. We shouldn't have to pin d... : Robotic Puppy Eater
  • There probably isn't even a visible ad to see. The "tell us what ad" is horseshit regardless. : Arcanum
  • There have been several posts with the ad's source, although ONE time should be enough for them to get of... : deathofrats
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  :( http://pics.notforjeff.com/gallery.php?entry=Images/shackaids.jpg didn't want to start a new thread, ... : trOmblyj
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    also, I have no idea what ad was displaying. : trOmblyj
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      See that's the really tricky part. I have screen caps of Chrome's Developer Tools with the scripts' java... : ThomW
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        I'm pretty much going to watch the ads load now before scrolling down in case it happens again. : trOmblyj
        • I tried that, but they ended up being flash adds, so I wasn't sure how to grab the url off them... : Clasifyd
  • The shack should nuke itself. >:( : deject
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  That's pathetic. For the safety of the visitors, they should at least pull the ad spots from the site un... : Goto10
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    Yea i just stopped going to Shacknews. It's all Winchatty now. I prefer going to the site,but it's not w... : jonin
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      what is winchatty? : deathofrats
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        The only way to Shack. Basically it's a latestchatty client. Works in Windows, Linux, and OSX http:/... : foo
        • sweet thanks! : deathofrats
        • http://box.nevernet.com/~djr/winchatty.jpg : foo
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          it sucks that it requires Adobe AIR. I'm always reluctant to install Adobe software these days since it t... : thecray
          • AIR is just a framework - totally harmless : foo
          • AIR is essentially a very small add-on to the Flash runtime you've already got. It only runs when you cl... : electroly
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  JUST got hit with it a few minutes ago. LAME. : johnshermanhoyt
  • I wish I knew how to trigger it. :/ : ThomW
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  I find it odd that gamefly can't get out of a contract in which the ads serve borderline illegal content.... : twifosp
  • Those ads pay them the most : Phreakin
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    It's not just ad companies, its apparently ad companies nested in ad companies : geedeck
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      Then pull all the ads until the ad company gets it fixed. Shacknews.com can't be the only consumer of the... : slickdoody
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        I would direct these concerns to ECO via shackmessage. People robble robble robbling on here doesn't ... : geedeck
        • Done, I would encourage others to do so as well. : slickdoody
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          Are you still the community manager? Do you have any pull at all in terms of directing gamefly's attentio... : slickdoody
          • I am no longer Community Manager, nor have I been for over a year. That said, I'm still one of the lead m... : geedeck
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      Well, much like slaying a Hydra, cut off the head and the rest will collapse. : Entity
      • ....What? : Arcanum
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        er that's not how a hydra works : dirge23
        • Hail HYDRA! Cut off one head and two will take it's place! DIEEEE!!! : Arcanum
      • isn't that a snake? : Jikim
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        This is the dumbest post I've read this week. : Chod
        • I read it in his voice and it was spectacular! : Phil
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        Shacknews: The Authority on Hydras Shacknews: Keeping It Real With Mythical Beasts Shacknews: Ask us ab... : das_runt
        • Shacknews: Disinforming you on everything form women to mythilogical beasts since 1996 : thekidd
      • bahahahahahah : yacoub35
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        Do you grapple with Hydras : tomservo
        • No hydra, no matter how many heads can bring me down : gmd
      • Whatever you say, Hercules. : omnova
      • hmmm, you must mean body. : noobja
      • I just wanted to pop in and say "Hilarious!" : StolenNosferatu
      • you basically just admitted you've never slain a real hydra, loser. : grandmasterlee
      • Somebody failed Greek mythology. : Ride-My-Rocket
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    ....Just maybe there's more to it than that? You think they know who the offender is, and just dont have... : deskill
    • But it shouldn't be the user's responsibility to track that down. Someone needs to get on the phone with... : Ormsbee
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      They have the ability to stop it: Stop serving ads from whatever aggregator they're currently using. Th... : Arcanum
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        1. You're right, its not the user's responsibility, BUT IT SURE IS HELPFUL if the users can provide detai... : deskill
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          There's a distinct possibility they dont deal with advertisers directly at all. That's exactly my poin : Arcanum
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            If you SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING you remove any chance you had of troubleshooting it. Ask any adserver and th... : deskill
            • Go to a different service. They've been trying to solve this problem your way for weeks, if not months, ... : Arcanum
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              I don't fucking get you. That's now how business works. If you're playing that way you're shortchanging y... : Conan
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                Conan: sorry I kept skipping you in replies. This isn't how ad networks work. You have 2-3 major ones th... : deskill
                • This is the truth, while I agree something needs to happen, and its currently bullshit, untill someone ru... : krym3
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              Serving the shack adfree on a temporary basis until the ad network gets it shit together is the only acce... : slickdoody
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                I'm obviously in the minority and not getting anywhere so I'll just leave it at this. I disagree that ... : deskill
                • "I highly doubt that anyone is happy about this situation, and changes will be made once it's all settled... : Robotic Puppy Eater
            • "If you SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING you remove any chance you had of troubleshooting it." This isn't a comput... : Robotic Puppy Eater
            • That shack somehow ran for years without these problems. Also, unless the ad network starts losing mon... : nudel
        • What's your point with #2? If it takes all of them, then it takes all of them; you can't just knowingly s... : Conan
  • They can, and there's nothing borderline about it. : Conan
  • they'll probably just pass the blame on to us like last time, saying we are probably all infected with so... : deathofrats
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  ur fucked either way, even if u hit the cancel button right? : vassili_zaitsev
  • end the process through task manager : deathofrats
  • I hit the close button on the dialog, then the close button on the tab, gone. am I missing something? : MamiyaOtaru
• I want to know who the shits thinks I'm THAT interested in C&H sugar. I mean I use it and I prefer it ... : greasyjohn
• I just got my first one. It redirected me to a Chinese domain. But luckily I'm in Linux and it couldn't... : afty
• I got one of those last night *sight* : X-GOUKI
• ads on this site have gotten completely out of control and abusive : vynn
• Stop, ThomW! Don't waste your time. Write a shack replacement with an open API instead. :) : dmason
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  It's the incredible shrinking thread! : Rehevkor
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    are posts getting nuked? : deathofrats
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      yeah its against the rules to talk about a certain preventative measure : dantastic
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        Which leaves the only advice we can offer people to avoid getting malware from shack-ads: stop visiting t... : Rehevkor
        • Well, there's also paying for Mercury, but I don't really want to pay shacknews/gamefly to stop sending m... : Rehevkor
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          I still think NoScript should be allowed, but we'll see if this post stays. It allows normal ads through... : dognose
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            That's the one I got a week long ban for talking about, actually. : Rehevkor
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              Hmm. I will take this up with the others and I may see you all in a week. : dognose
              • More time for L4D2... maybe I finally will see you in game! : YerMothah
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              Looks like I don't need a week; you were initially given the standard 30 minutes and it was upped to a we... : dognose
              • Which is an understandable position. Some software is bad for site income. Support the sites you like esp... : LoioshDwaggie
              • Is mentioning ABP bannable? : Ride-My-Rocket
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              Since a well known mod recommends it's use, I find it hilarious that it's a bannable topic. : spazzium
              • *its : spazzium
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                That is what we are debating, and yes I have created a double standard, which sucks, and am willing to ta... : dognose
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                  I still see the ads with noscript... : YerMothah
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                    that's the point. the ads come through, but the malware installer doesn't : electroly
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                      which is why im confused about the debate : YerMothah
                      • As am I. I use noscript and see ads all over the place; I just don't worry about them or about notorious... : dognose
                • Thats dognose for you, taking one for the team. : StolenNosferatu
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            NoScript breaks the entire web, though. The other thing doesn't. : nudel
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              Uhh... only the first time you load the page : YerMothah
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                Whitelisting and reloading every new page you visit a) completely defeats the purpose of the NoScript plu... : nudel
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                  A) False, B) False. : YerMothah
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                    You said "only the first time you load the page," implying that you agreed that you had to whitelist new ... : nudel
                    • You white list the sites scripts, and dont whitelist everything. Simple. Like right now, shacknews is ... : YerMothah
• everytime i read a post about these ads, i hear Louis Black say his trademark "sonfabitch!" with pointy f... : yacoub35
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  In fairness, it can be really hard to figure out which ads to blacklist. It's kind of like pushing down b... : Gonzo
  • Your TLDR is almost as long as the rest of your post : hussdelrio
  • Just pull the whole provider then. That would be the way to make them troubleshoot it. The onus is on t... : twifosp
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  I am hugging my lightning bolt right now. :( : hatelull
  • this police report says that aint all you were doing : MoreVespeneGas
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  Shack, we are very ware of the problem and have been working hard on identifying the source . If it is a... : ECO
  • Thank you for this update ECO. I think I can say we all appreciate your communication. It is very good to... : retarded talking dinosaur
  • ^^ please guys, read this! : JohnnyDanger
  • Thanks for the post, hoss! Keep us updated if you can. : pimpium
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    What would you suggest in the mean time to prevent your visitors from getting infected with malware? : slickdoody
    • Only thing I can suggest is don't click on anything in the 'anti-viorus' pop-ups . Might want to close y... : ECO
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      Yes, please help us out while you solve this problem, ECO. We are your supporters..you don't want us to ... : deathofrats
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        I can suggest a technical solution for the time being. Use Chrome and a good Virus-Scanner. If it pops up... : geedeck
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          FWIW, I haven't seen the pop-up yet on Chrome w/shackscript installed.* * I do have a modified HOSTS... : mn3m0n1c
          • Same, have chrome + shackscripts and haven't had any issues. : breadsticks
          • I posted a screenshot last night of the malware trying to install in Chrome. : slickdoody
      • Microsoft Security Essentials catches it. I would reccomend it. : pimpium
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      There's a lightning bolt that fixes it :) : crummynz
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        If it were a one-time fee I'd do it. I wouldn't really use any other Mercury benefit because most are obs... : dmason
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          I use the hell out of the Webspace. : dognose
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            and shackpics : JuffoWup
            • Shackpics is free. : dmason
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            The 1gb limit is horrendous : pancake humper
            • I use it mostly to share pics with y'all so the 1 GB is fine. : dognose
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              It's 2gb. : ArcKnight
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                It is 1gb. : pancake humper
                • esponse: 230-Your bandwidth usage is restricted Response: 230-User pancake humper has group access to: ... : pancake humper
    • OSX : Cygnus X-1
    • firefox+adblockplus : thebigbeefsandwich
    • the same stuff you use to protect yourself from every other site that may have these ads. : maulla
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      I suggest you use firefox and Tamper Data. If it pops up, you'll know what ad it is and everyone will re... : deskill
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        Ok, i installed Tamper Data. What do i need to know? : StolenNosferatu
        • I recommend not enabling "Start Tamper" or else it will prompt you before every single action. Just le... : deskill
    • Tree-fitty : YerMothah
  • mister, you're not living up to that first letter of your name : supersonic potato
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    He does exist! : spazzium
    • the great oz has spoken! : j0nchan
  • When I saw it a couple days ago, I hit back after dealing with the popup dialogs, and the big wide bar at... : Code RedBeard
  • Anyone ever noticed that DNF and Borderlands are ECO's most wanted/hyped games? I thought it was clever. : MercFox1
  • just run HTTP Watch and refresh until the ad hits, then check the log urls and you should be able to dete... : grandmasterlee
  • Thanks for checking in ECO. Good update! :) : ColoradoCNC
  • its times like these i don't regret supporting the shack and getting a bolt. : shadebane
  • Finally, from order comes chaos. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • Why are you guys researching this rather than simply going after your ad network for damages as specified... : batkiwi
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    This course of action doesn't make sense to me. This is the SECOND malware ad? So after all this effort i... : nudel
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      We did have crap ads (noise, etc) when sTeve was here and he spent a lot of time chasing them down. : dognose
      • That's true, I remember him mentioning it every so often. They usually seemed to get sorted out within... : nudel
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      Hate hate hate. Dude you are using this for free, if you hate it so much and love the site, subscribe... : shadebane
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        What terrible advice. And just how does Mercury help on any of the other 5 billion sites that use the sa... : alias
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          you do realize we are discussing Shacknews, right? : shadebane
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            And the only viable solution is THE PROGRAM THAT CANNOT BE NAMED so that the core problem is attacked ins... : alias
            • and you are arguing with me because... : shadebane
            • reread nudel's comment before you repost... yeah might save some time here... : shadebane
            • I disagree that that is the only viable solution; please refer to posts here on NoScript, which I believe... : dognose
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        Subscribe to avoid virii. Yes, great idea. : Bamtan
        • I think you need to reread comments, as the complaints are being made at shacknews, and those affiliated ... : shadebane
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        Yes, thats a great business strategy. Subscribe or get mal-ware installed. : Nighteyes
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          and another that misses the point... really guys? : shadebane
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            I'm replying to what you said, which was if you love the site but hate mal-ware, subscribe. That is your ... : Nighteyes
            • no its not a "solution", i never said it was. "If you hate it (the ads) so much, and love the site (http:... : shadebane
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        Yes, funny that, I hate being served malware for weeks. Also funny that I don't thin financially rewardin... : nudel
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          As they have stated, they are working on it, its obviously a problem and its a difficult one to resolve. ... : shadebane
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            "Working on it" for weeks while malware is still being served doesn't cut it. That's my point. : nudel
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              Then go somewhere else for a while, jesus christ. No one owes you anything. Myself and others have tr... : deskill
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                At this stage, the people who *aren't changing/dropping that ad network* are the ones who are responsible... : nudel
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                  Exactly this. I don't understand why it's such a hard concept. : Conan
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                    Neither of you have any idea what you're talking about. : deskill
                    • Right. Okay. Infecting your readers with malware for weeks on end is all fine and dandy. Glad we got that... : nudel
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                      Look, it's pretty fucking simple. If you're knowingly allowing an action that may compromise your users c... : Conan
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                        Im done disputing anything to anyone, but whats with the "club" analogy? : shadebane
                        • Hey, I just elaborated on nudel's analogy because it was apt. : Conan
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          Also, I sub'd to Mercury for about two years around the time Remo joined and there was a lot of exclusive... : nudel
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            I understand your concern, and appreciate your well thought out rebuttal. I totally agree with you on som... : shadebane
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              we've been cutting them a break for months : electroly
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                I give up, you guys are right i was wrong. Fuck the shack, lets stop coming here altogether, that will sh... : shadebane
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                  I rather enjoy the Shack, not sure about why you choose this discussion to come down on the Shack's side ... : alias
                  • It gives up, you are right, it was wrong. : shadebane
                • the only reason we care is that we love the Shack so much. if we didn't care, we would just leave : electroly
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              The counter-arguments you present are nonsense unless you wish to create a revenue stream for a website t... : alias
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                Seriously, reread ECO's post... i think you are missing... EVERYTHING. : shadebane
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                  I'm responding to you, not ECO. If I were responding to him, I'd place my reply at the root. : alias
                  • it gives up, it really doesn't care about what you think anymore. Enjoy the free shack. : shadebane
              • and TLDR much? : shadebane
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  it's not really a big deal and you should be grateful for the free service. if you're so great maybe you ... : retarded talking dinosaur
  • I can't tell if you're joking or not, but it is a big deal. : batkiwi
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  Does this thread mean people are no longer being banned for mentioning THE FIREFOX ADD-IN WHICH SHALL NOT... : Loofus
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    This does not mean that. There are ways to protect onesself without removing site revenue. : dognose
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      I'm all for helping out the Shack, but I draw the line at malicious or annoying ads. If they keep that st... : Thresher
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        Actually, for the time being till this passes, yeah you can mention Ad-Block. My hope is to have that cha... : geedeck
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          FREE DOWNFORCE! : Phil
          • actually let him stay excommunicated. : Phil
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    I see it mentioned all the time by long time posters and doesnt get banned. Why should it get banned no... : posito
    • Normally we nuke all talk of it. If we miss it, it's just because the mods are human or maybe we're not b : geedeck
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      it's currently mentioned in at least one reply in this thread :P : Patch-e
      • yup :) : posito
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  so how many of you actually click on ads? I don't think I've ever intentionally clicked on one. : valael
  • Probably between .9% and 1.8% I'm guessing. : deskill
  • I once clicked on one here for Crucial and wound up buying some RAM : dognose
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  Has anyone seen it recently? I've been reloading multiple browsers for a couple hours and have yet to see... : geedeck
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    I saw it right before I left work. : YerMothah
    • And when did you leave work? : geedeck
    • What time was that? : greg-m
  • It could be a lot of things: - Only runs in short spurts over the day - May set a cookie to run once a X... : ThomW

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• What is that?? : doomed
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  On the other hand, you still have a job, which is more than 10% of American's can say. : CoreContingency
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    Yes, I just used Americans possessively, please don't call the grammar gestapo on me, I'm sorry. : CoreContingency
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      I'm sort of excited by the idea of 10% of an American owning something while the other 90% doesn't, so I ... : mathyou
      • You aren't and won't be part of the 10%, so I don't know what you're happy about. : DianeOfTheMoon
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    10% Closer to 20 : ryuuseki
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      Speaking of this. Does anyone have that cool site that explained how the government fucks with the unempl... : Ctrl-Phreak
      • http://www.unemployment.gov/howwefuckwiththisshit/FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.jpg : one random winner
      • http://www.theonion.com/content/news/labor_dept_available_labor_rate : bashildy@speakeasy.net
• lol at this post : scener
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  I dunno, I wouldn't mind a cake of the month club membership. Cake is awesome. : afty
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    Not as good as pie. Just sayin'. : Afterglow
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      Cheesecake of the Month Club : Arcanum
      • now you're talkin : DapperDan
      • This man knows what is up. : ArcKnight
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      Wrong. Cake > pie. Pumpkin is the only pie to even deserve to be on the same table as cake. : Ebu
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        PIE > * : YerMothah
        • seriously - what is wrong with these people : virus
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        I feel we've had this conversation before. : one random winner
        • As long as people continue to be wrong about this, I'll continue to fight the good fight. : Ebu
• That Blood Orange soda is good stuff. : midgetherder
• A fucking bottle of soda? That's almost more insulting than not getting anything at all. Wow. : virus
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  Hello, fellow corporate grocery chain worker! Yeah, half our corporte staff is union, and half isn't. On : paulatreus
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    methinks its time to join the union! : StolenNosferatu
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      Oh, my post was unclear. I'm in the union, so I'm good. But our contract expires in March, so theyre goin... : paulatreus
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        Damn, that sucks. Good luck, maybe you could get on the negotiating team? : quartic0
        • Haha, no absolutely not. We're actually part of the grocer's union (same union that the in store employee... : paulatreus
  • If only there was some organization you could join that would advocate for you and get you those same ben : quartic0
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  people that feel entitled to bonuses are hilarious. : gmd
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    Honestly, if this post had removed the part about not getting a grocery bag bonus and focused on salary f... : rt702
    • I've learned over the last few years that most salary freezes aren't set in stone. At the last 3 companie... : Ctrl-Phreak
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  My last year at AOL, we got coupons in our mailboxes for buy one hamburger get one free at some fast food... : dognose
  • Would be awesome if they gave you those AOL signup CD's, lol. : paulatreus
• Still more than what I'm getting, which is jack shit. At least you get to sip on a cool refreshing so... : phate81
• does that mean i'm not getting a box of cereal this year? :( : cpt_gloval
• I get a piece of cardboard and a hunk of plastic, just like I did last year. We don't deal with yearly bo... : corey
• the solution is clear: become an exec : spiderfill
• Sesmaster, that's the gift that keeps on givin' the whole year. : zohar79
• Im tired of hearing all of you greedy employed fucks because they get a bottle of free soda. : posito
• that really sucks. i've been at companies where management forgoes raises to give employees a small bump.... : dahanese
• Blood orange Italian soda sounds pretty delicious, Peters. : Alice O'Connor
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  Get an MBA : Utopia
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    that requires an education right? : sesmaster
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      yes and $200k in debt if you live in the US : Utopia
      • that you will pay with your yearly exec bonus : Utopia
      • That's retarded. Go to state school and have a fucking job while you're in college. I came out of sch... : daVinci1980
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        you can do it for less than that. : dahanese
        • not without buying video cards with my student loans! : cpt_gloval
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      not really just a LOT of forced teamwork, graded team work, team presentations, etc. the education par... : Downforce
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        I see your major didn't require any kind of English course! : CrabsJarrard
        • which it fucking should. : Amnesty_intl2
  • Yes, because there's not hundreds of thousands of middle managers out of work right now... : batkiwi
• I would like some cake. : steelsamurai
• I'm sure those execs have contracts guaranteeing those bonuses. I really wonder how much money they save ... : Magus

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  I gave up last month. : WhatIsThisFor
  • The way I see it, they would do plot episodes at the beginning middle and end of a season and the rest wa... : WhatIsThisFor
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  i like it. : dahanese
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    it's not episodic at all. : dahanese
    • Yeah. At first I thought it was and that's why I didnt watch season one. I started watching season 2 on h... : kikilupo
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      dahanese, yes it is. Compare Fringe to shows like Lost or The Wire, which are the exact opposite of episo... : Modica Sol Solis
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        i don't mean to sound like an ass, modica sol solis, but you stopped watching and it has become much less... : dahanese
        • GOOD DAY SIR I SAY GOOD DAY : dahanese
        • I tune in to episodes now and then. Like August, I think it was called, the observer-centric episode was ... : Modica Sol Solis
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          I've got to agree with Modica. I've been watching the whole thing so far and it's still really a "monster... : BlackCat9
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            I think they really need a concrete "Big Baddie" to chase after. The shapeshifters should be the ones the... : Modica Sol Solis
            • Last night the "found the face of our enemy" : g0nk
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  The overall arc has been pretty disappointing this season :( by which I mean, it's been feeling particula... : derelict515
  • And I meant to add, that it's been particularly disappointing given the season 1 finale which has amazing... : derelict515
  • Way too formulaic : thenoodleincident
• Last night's episode was very good! : smax
• Last nights episode was fucking awesome!! : g0nk
• I still like it, but this season has felt sort of phoned in like they know they are already canceled. Las... : Frozen Pixel
• its all syncing up, the ongoing theme and main story arc happen in bits and pieces throughout the season,... : CoRDS
• I like it and I'm watching, it's not episodic but they are steering away from the main plot more than wha... : ErneX
• I love the show, haven't missed an ep yet. : boomdeath
• I really really like the show a lot. I hope they keep it going. : virus
• I gave up a month or two ago. I might try to catch up over the break. : Whistler77
• I kinda have the show on in the background, but last nite's I paid attn to. It was great. : shyguy74
• Every episode has a tiny thread of the overall plot that peeks out in the last 30 seconds, and then somet... : BlackCat9
• I love Fringe. : YerMothah
• Love it. Old man is a gem. : freqq28
• I gave up on it last year about this time... but then went back and caught up over the summer. It's a ... : cerealSAM2
• Walter is awesome, but they need to get a bit deeper into the plot arcs because I'm getting tired of havi : Code RedBeard
• Yesterday's episode was great and heavily related to the overall arc. But yes, they do Monster of the Wee... : Bamtan
• i'm trying to manage until the end of this season, and then that's it. the overall story is really going... : frostythehitman
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  Nothing can be 'The New X-Files' because the X-Files is so god damn awesome. Plus Gillian Anderson nee... : Mr. Goodwrench
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    I gotta agree with this. I don't think anything out there has been a worthy successor to the X-Files. P... : jingletard
    • Supernatural is a worthy successor, in that it perfected X-Files monster of the week while also being an ... : Frozen Pixel
    • I have to agree with the sentiment that The X-Files started a slow decline from maybe season 5 onwards...... : Mr. Goodwrench
• It's a great show. : prime8
• too much filler at the moment. It's watchablebut going downhill : mista mista
• i just watched last night's episode and it was awesome : dirge23
• Last night's van chase scene, Spock speaking with the light behind him, and all scenes with Lt. Cedric Da... : kramweil