Team Fortress 2 'War' Update: Soldier vs. Demoman

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• Fag. : Dschinghis Khan
• Die : qwplayer
• you lose! : niceguynick
• Your loss. : ion_pulse
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  Herp TF2 is bad derp. Am I cool yet? : HellTempest
  • lol : Godhatesfatpeople
• You've certainly brought out the TF2 average user representatives. Congratulations. : Evil Bones
• Totally botched our tournament success rosewood. : ant_hillbilly
• Don't worry dude. The community won't miss you. : Godhatesfatpeople
• Stop dividing the community : Sailor of Fortune
• Way to stick your neck out there and bait the trolls. heh. : IHATEDUST

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  TF2 seems to be more prediction than precision (in regards to player behavior) in any given situation. I... : TaintedSyringe
  • ^^^ this. Always shoot your enemy in the back. Run from fair battles in arena. Anticipate, use the level... : FuzzyOnion
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  its pretty easy to become a competent engineer. : thenoodleincident
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    I'm fairly competent in every class except for Spy and Engineer. I don't know what it is...but I fail mis... : kinnoch
    • Spy takes a bit of finesse, I'll give you that. : TaintedSyringe
• Don't worry about being killed, and just keep playing the same maps. TF2 is pretty straightforward in bec... : kramweil

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• Because it would make so much sense to let to classes fight against each other that are already updated, ... : The Future
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  This post is totally uneducated anyway. Since when are those the easiest to play? Yeah I bet pyro is hard... : The Future
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    I think by "Easiest" he means "Best". Demo / Soldier are simply better then Heavy or Pyro for actual team... : SniperWolf22
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      Pyro and especially Sniper both require more technical skill than the Heavy though. Holding your mouse on... : Zek
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        Not exactly. The difficulties with heavy lie elsewhere - more akin to the medic. As you're slow and nearl... : A Trusted Friend
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          Yes, and the difficulty with the Pyro also lies elsewhere. It's all about flanking and risk evaluation, m... : Zek
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            Extinguishing burninating teammates is an important part of being a pyro too. : zipr
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              you might see one pyro using the normal flamethrower. most use backburner and W+M1 : Downforce
              • I see more and more taking the standard issue flamer these days though, the mass backburner fixation seem... : holaareola
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        You haven't seen the "I've removed every key but 'w' Pyro Vid" have you? : AxeMan808
        • I've also seen multiple videos of pretty much the exact same thing with the KGB, lol. : Zek
      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B170dwf7Z7I&fmt=18 : OMGzImBurning
• Everything is easy against pub players. : Mystery0000
• Easiest? lol : OmegaRed59
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  The pyro is the easiest class to play, the demo is far from the easiest. : niceguynick
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    Plant stickies. Wait for someone to come around. Detonate stickies. That's some skill right there. The... : DerHuhnTeufel
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      Do you even think before you post? How can you consider flailing wildly with your mouse and holding fo... : alias
      • Do you read what I post before descending into troll rage that I don't like the same game you do? Read... : DerHuhnTeufel
    • You don't know what you're talking about. : Godhatesfatpeople
    • Yeah, it's easy to camp as demo. That doesn't translate into being the easiest class though, and most po... : holaareola
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      Anyone have a link to NastyJack's demo video (pretty sure it was him)? Tell me pulling that stuff off is ... : the_burd
      • Easiest to play effectively does not mean that no one who plays one has skill. : DerHuhnTeufel
    • and get knifed by a spy while you wait : Mansmells
  • While the pyro and soldier are easiest classes to start playing TF2 with, I'm sure it takes a lot of skil... : kramweil
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  Easiest?? Are you serious! The demoman is the hardest to play. : scary_monster
  • The original poster is new to TF2. Anyone with some play time knows demoman is the hardest to use effect... : FuzzyOnion

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• Seeing as the soldiers are winning right now, your prediction fails just as your understanding of gamedes... : The Future
• I'm surprised the Soldiers are winning. I thought the defensive maps would have given the the overwhelmin... : kinnoch
• Well, so far I'm still proven wrong, day 2 stats came out and to my surprise Soldier is still ahead by 13... : Fpsnut

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• I think the soldier's just fine. It's a very powerful class, and I frequently see them atop the scoretab... : holaareola
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  Soldier was a noob cannon before he was nerfed. There was a reason why so many played him back in the day... : dookiebot
  • Because they came from using the rocket launcher in Quake 1? Hmmmmm? : AxeMan808
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  Demos also got nerfed. I'm not sure what the soliders was, but the demo has had a ton...the ones I can t... : SlingBlaze
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    The soldiers ammo was also reduced, but thats teh only nerf i'm aware of and i've put 60+ hours into the ... : kinnoch
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      50 to 24 was painful. Also, rocket explosive radius has been reduced, as well as falling off at range (al... : AxeMan808
      • The biggest soldier nerf was the change to self damage reduction from your own rockets. My memory is a... : frib

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  hopefully there will be a faster shooting rocket launcher to stop people from being just sticky whores : Memphis-Ahn
  • hopefully there will be whores. : thenoodleincident

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  "Soldier deaths at the hands of demomen and vice versa in will be tracked over the coming week--and displ... : mobab
  • Yes well, if demomen can get more kills than soldiers, then soldiers will die more than demoman. I can l... : Mister Fister
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    If Demomen kill more soldiers than soldiers kill demomen, then demos get the weapon. "The more Demomen... : OmegaRed59
    • My quote from the post did not specify, except that the tracking is in terms of deaths. I copy and pas... : mobab
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  this will be the absolute proof for the demomans overpowerdness :) : spinx2
  • http://www.steampowered.com/status/tf2/tf2_stats.php Average kills/hour rank: Heavy - ~81 Demoman ... : molaughlen
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  You sir, play on crappy servers. : JediDwag
  • I just went on a fewservers, and it was the other way round. While an easy camp, demoman's a hard class ... : holaareola

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• Sad... :-( At least you know your limitations... Being self-aware is the first step towards noob recov... : JediDwag

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• Yeah, I just wish you could see the deaths you contributed. Make it easy to see if you're hurting or hel... : JediDwag

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  I beg your pardon? "Fair and balanced," that could potentially be our motto were it not already tradem... : Alice O'Connor
  • Go demo! : molaughlen
• Nope, just straight facts. Dimwit soldiers... : JediDwag

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  Lol, but what good is it when the only thing you see is the inside of your helmet? : JDV872
  • Touche : Warbird12345
• Oooo.... You're good.... : JediDwag

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  It's being tracked globally across all servers. The kills are all being tallied back at Valve, and they'... : JediDwag
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    Aah now I got it, I didn't see the two links. Nice. Well I'm not sure which one to favor, I really like t... : The Future
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      It probably will be something not that special, like a melee weapon or something. : JediDwag
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        I hope it's something that irreversibly changes the balance of the game. MIRV : _jon
        • That's the last thing we need, turn the goddamn game into a grenade-spam-fest like TFC. : NeoChaosX
        • Nothing is sacred from Valve tweaking, so I don't think it's possible to break the balance of the game fo... : JediDwag

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• Short answer: no : CaptainSurly

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• also, the engineer is going to get rocket packs and an exoskeleton like a mech. THE ENGINEER SHALL R... : Downforce

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  I think alot of Demos will rack up kills from noob soldiers. Everyone was like "Everyone go soldier we wa... : The Future
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    Certainly with the war's apparent population imbalance each of the Demo's kills are much more likely to b... : Zek
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      true, but a very good demo can dominate so much harder than a very good soldier. The amount of ordinance... : OMGzImBurning
      • Not to mention you can spam grenades for free kills from a safe position. You don't even have to see any... : Pneum0
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        Maybe Demo is a better pubstomping class than Soldier, but if there's a higher percentage of fodder Demos... : Zek
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          this is true. I guess that it'll be very close, just like the current stats of kills for each class are ... : OMGzImBurning
          • Rampant speculation is the best. I'll do one now: But what we're not evaluating is the fact that the a... : drdrift

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• I'm hoping so. I'm playing for Demoman. Just playing some quick games for less than an hour, I racked u... : JediDwag