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  I wonder how much the 2nd one cost valve to make, it would be interesting to see the cost comparison to M... : stgdz
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    Modern Warfare 2 probably cost a lot more to make from a single game perspective, infinity ward really hi... : Amnesty_intl2
    • I have heard that Valve hires real zombies for their mo-cap. They also run experiments on them to discov... : SLUDGE^
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  thats at retail, which is impressive... but add in what they did with steam... yowza... wish they would r... : Demius
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    I would not be surprised if Steam doubled that. : MercFox1
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      4 million sales on steam? no way : EvilDolemite
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        It's very possible. Think of all the games that install Steam now, and then of those people getting ads ... : qsylvr
        • it's a wonderful game and worthy of huge sales but i would seriously doubt 6+ million sales : EvilDolemite
    • How many 4 packs do you think Valve sold? : jermm
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      If that was the case, you can bet Steam would be announcing the shit out of it. They would be trumpeting ... : deveus1
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        To my knowledge they've never released any steam sales data, so I disagree : edgewise
        • They just deal in percentages. 3000%!!! : Dontdrop
    • I highly doubt that. If that were the case we'd see more than 20,000-45000 people playing it online, whic... : edgewise
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  if the pc gaming community wants a game to be a huge success all they have to do is try to lead a massive... : JINKY
  • there's no point boycotting a game nobody gives a shit about : dirge23
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  I hope Valve doesn't get addicted to making boatloads of cash with mainstream games like this, and abando... : ventro
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    i wouldn't call this game mainstream : EvilDolemite
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      I've seen two billboards for this game alongside Dallas freeways. Not saying that makes it mainstream; i... : dognose
      • L4D2 was the headline promo during the last UFC ! : busdriver3030
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      Really? I don't think this qualifies as a niche game. : The Grolar Bear
      • when it released there was nothing like it. there still isn't, really. : EvilDolemite
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    i see it more like valve's success enables them to bring unique games like portal & l4d to the mainstream : busdriver3030
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      Portal is far from mainstream. : Dontdrop
      • right. i should have said that valve's success enables them in the future, to bring their truly unique ga... : busdriver3030
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        Seems mainstream to me. : CrustaR
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          Not in comparison to far more accessible games like l4d or Tf 2. : Dontdrop
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            I disagree that TF2 is more accessible. L4D maybe but TF2 scares a lot of people away because of a) carto... : marmite
            • I'd say the opposite and argue that the cartoony graphics convince a lot of people that the game is simpl... : Dontdrop
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    To say Valve was the mind behind Portal is abit of a stretch. : SlingBlaze
    • NVM i can't read : SlingBlaze
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  I remember first hearing about L4D 1 and thinking "hrmm that seems like it should just be a HL2 mod". We... : kgargs
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    I could have played it at QuakeCon 2 years ago but didn't want to stand in line for some co-op game : dognose
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      we got so destroyed then. I still have the tshirt though, was wearing it yesterday! : filthysock
      • My pc crashed when I was trying to play with -efx- :( : askedrelic
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  Good for Valve, they deserve it. I hope Episode 3 is next up on their to do list. : jingletard
  • NO YOU JERK. the rest of the TF2 class unlocks!!!!!!!!!!!! >:( : Downforce
  • haha you're funny : buzzbat
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    haha, more like your mom is next on their to do list. : filthysock
    • Well then I'll see the first two thirds of the video and have to wait another three years for the final p... : jingletard
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  DAMN YOU BOYCOTTERS : Godhatesfatpeople
  • BOYCOTT: A GREAT SUCESS!! : askedrelic

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  Blood Music by Greg Bear is one of my favorites : smax
  • Hmm I have that on my shelf but I have not read it, maybe I will make it my next conquest. : Goncyn
  • Sounds great, ta. and only 272 pages :-) : =]Milo[=
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  I'm enjoying Marooned in Realtime by Vernor Vinge right now. : Zakko
  • That's an awesome story. : smax
  • yes, that'll do nicely for my upcoming trip. gg kindle, gg : Deathlove
  • I just added that and The Peace War to my wish list. : nakedsavage
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    Ta, oddly I have The Peace War on my shelf. Understand that's a sort of prequel. Worth reading? If so sh... : =]Milo[=
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      I thought it was written first? I read them in that order (peace war and then marooned) and I'm not sure... : gigaduck
      • Ahh, sorted ta :-) I'll read Peace War and get Marooned ordered then :-) : =]Milo[=
      • It makes sense. I realized halfway through that there was a book before it. I'll read Peace War soon. : Zakko
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  I just finished The Forever War and enjoyed it quite a bit. I love these threads. Usually my Amazon wis... : nakedsavage
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    From the Amazon summary this sounds sort of like Starship Troopers book, not film? By which I mean; Trai... : =]Milo[=
    • It goes into depth about soldiers returning from war to a changed world, as well. : Rooster Cockburn
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      Kind of. That's part of the story as you follow the main character. It was written in the Vietnam era and... : nakedsavage
      • Nice!, sounds like just my kind of thing. Thanks :-) : =]Milo[=
  • Check out Forever Peace as well. I didn't think it was quite as good but overall it was a good read. : DarkDeus
  • Recently read that too, was gonna recommend as well. A++++ good read would read again : toilet
  • I found a weird copy with Forever War, Forever Peace and Forever Free all in one! I feel like a god-king.... : DialDforDan
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  Pandora's Star and Judeas Unchained are still my recommended reads :) In addition: the unincorporated ... : LoioshDwaggie
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    I read that Pandora's Star is 1152 pages long and that Judas Unchained is the sequel and was feeling bad ... : =]Milo[=
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      Enjoy, I've been throwing it around the office :) : LoioshDwaggie
      • Well at least its not as page heavy as the others if you manged to brain a colleague with it :-) : =]Milo[=
  • These : doctorbfunk
  • Just finishing up judas unchained now...so good. Gonna take a break for a while before moving on to the t... : jason bergman
• The Shadow of the Torturer : steelsamurai
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  Anything from Alastair Reynolds! Excellent sci-fi opera stuff : R@zzle
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    Going with Century Rain, thanks :-) : =]Milo[=
    • Oh yes, Add: House of Suns which is a fantastic stand-alone novel. : LoioshDwaggie
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      Excellent choice. I have that copy too. If you end up liking it, The Prefect is another good one of his ... : R@zzle
      • Good to know and thanks! For 82p (like $1.50) plus shipping may as well get that ordered too. :-) I'm thi... : =]Milo[=
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  Everytime I see one of these lists it makes me yearn for a Nook. I have a sony reader but meh you can't b... : JohnnyRey
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    I was looking at the Reader in Waterstone bookshop in the UK earlier this year and the guy came over and ... : =]Milo[=
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      I love the reader itself... I just pulled the trigger ont he Nook, so if you are interested, I would b... : JohnnyRey
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        UK? Yeah interested enough if I can read open formats on it (txt, pdf etc). Paid mid month and looking to... : =]Milo[=
        • Sounds good! Smed! : JohnnyRey
        • Reader does txt, rtf, epub, pdf, lrf : Ebu
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  Received an IRL suggestion of Greg Egans Permutation City. Anyone read it? Apparently its not exactly en... : =]Milo[=
  • Also, Pavane by Keith Roberts? : =]Milo[=
  • and... Dying Inside by Robert Silverberg? : =]Milo[=
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  Footfall : geedeck
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    From the 'grandfather' of Halo :-), tried a Known Space novel before and didn't get on with it :-( the fa... : =]Milo[=
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      You should try more things that are fun, not hard. On Basilisk Station by David Weber http://www.we... : geedeck
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        No beer tastes better than free beer. Well, expect free beer whilst still being paid :-) Cheers! : =]Milo[=
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          expect = except :-( I'd blame my new, backlit 'gamers' keyboard but that'd look like I was shadily shif... : =]Milo[=
          • You're lucky you corrected yourself! Otherwise tragedy would have befallen you. Last time in fact, many S... : geedeck
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  Read Spin by Robert Charles Wilson. One of the best modern sci fi books I've read. : coldfusioncs
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    Thanks, sounds good. It was an original Twilight Zone episode, Midnight Sun, which got me into reading Da... : =]Milo[=
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      I think you'll like it. It's not post apocalyptic, but a lot of the themes are the same, you know? Mankin... : coldfusioncs
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        It's also part of a trilogy, the second is called Axis and came out in June and the third, Vortex will be... : sludge vohaul
        • Was Axis any good? : coldfusioncs
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          Ahh, ta. Ordered now anyhow. Though tell me; does it 'end' with a satisfying / open conclusion? Or just a... : =]Milo[=
          • You can read it on its own. It ties up almost all the main characters' loose ends. If you want, you have ... : coldfusioncs
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  The Space Merchant had to read for a Sci-Fi class i took. Yeah... : shadebane
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    This sounds interesting. 1952 and still relevant, plus less than a couple hundred pages. Thanks! Man I wi... : =]Milo[=
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      yeah it was one of the books i really enjoyed from that class. I hope you like it to! : shadebane
      • If you liked that, try The Syndic and Not This August. Kornbluth is one of my favorite old school SF aut... : Colleton
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  I saw one of these posts a few years ago and went and looked through the list of Hugo award winners and f... : sludge vohaul
  • Man, American Gods was amazing! :-) Actually, everything I have read by Gaiman has had many deep layers ... : =]Milo[=
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  I've said it in countless threads similar to this, but please read Old Man's War by John Scalzi - afterw... : phokz
  • Looked at Zoes War and Old Mans War already. You made my decision. Old Mans War ordered :-) Thanks! : =]Milo[=
  • Beat me to it. But this dude is right. : DialDforDan
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  Not everyone likes it, but I've been enjoying The Lost Fleet by John G. Hemry (Jack Campbell). The serie... : theangrywaffles
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    I have a loaned copy of ?Stark's War?, by the same author. Willing to give it a shot but worried by getti... : =]Milo[=
    • The first book is the best. You will definitely know if you want to stick with the story or not by the en... : theangrywaffles
    • They are very fast readers. You can finish off the whole series in a week or two. I read the first one,... : trove
• LANARK < best book ever written. : disembodied potato
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  The Road is not science fiction. : Rooster Cockburn
  • Holy shit, you know what? You're right. Didn't relaise. Just took a steer from the Shack and it felt like... : =]Milo[=
  • Actually, it is. Read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction Note specifically: Science fiction : Arctic Fox
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  Dune : aldraek
  • *not really end of the world tho, but, still. : aldraek
  • Not what I am / was looking for here but previously enjoyed massively :-) Felt 'informed' by reading it t... : =]Milo[=
• Hyperion by Dan Simmons! it's the best scifi book I know of : xxx2xxx
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  The Trouble with Lichen isn't that good - especially compared to Triffids. A better one would be The Chry... : captfarrell
  • Thank you! I was going to try Chocki / Chocky but was advised the same... : =]Milo[=
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  Based on your responses im surprised no one mentioned Armor. One of my favorite books of all time. One of... : hobosapien
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    read the first review, it's a great description. : hobosapien
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      Oredered. Ta. : =]Milo[=
      • Or should I say, Pre Ordered. March 4th reissue in UK :-( : =]Milo[=
  • ^^^^Seconded. Just read it. The structure is a bit frustrating, but the payoff at the end is glorious. : DialDforDan
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  Ignore all these fags and start the Old Man's War series by Scalzi. Each is fairly standalone, but it pre... : DialDforDan
  • Someone else mentioned this and I have one of them. Going to give it a go. Recognise that letting a novel... : =]Milo[=
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  Finished The Road a few days ago. That was the most pointless and depressing read ever. ugh... Heinlei... : Colleton
  • Sorry you felt that way. I realise it was not Sci Fi but I still enjoyed. Would liken my experience with ... : =]Milo[=

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  I haven't even beated that one on easy mode :) : dognose
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    OH WTF. Message me tonight on steam, we will do it right. : sheepraper
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      Just got a last-minute 80 person move, you be up at 3 am Central? :( : dognose
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        Shit no, I have to work @ 10:00 am. : sheepraper
        • lol, want to try on Friday? : Maddog_Delphi97
  • dognose, have you died on it on easy? :[ : CrustaR
• I can help once I get off work and eat dinner. :( : DHAvatar
• I'm not sure if I can help right now, since I just updated the client. None of the Shack servers have up... : Arcanum
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  The key for the bridge is to RUN RUN RUN. I've found that stopping almost at all ruins your chances to ge... : Godhatesfatpeople
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    Yes. Get shotguns, pipe bombs, and RUN LIKE HELL. Do not even stop to fight the tank. Do this and its eas... : Serpico74
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      Yes, stopping to fight him is a bad move. The area he appears at on the bridge is right where the side sc... : Godhatesfatpeople
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        The other plus from avoiding the tank is that you get a nice stretch past him with no infected before the... : Serpico74
        • Bingo : Godhatesfatpeople
      • Just don't get hit by any cars he might hit in frustration. : ArcKnight
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      Killing the tank is the easy part if you play smart. Have everyone get sniper rifles and hold back as far... : NastyJack
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        Killing the tank there is a massive waste of time, should never be done. Just run past it, take advantage... : Serpico74
        • I thought the horde were triggered when you got to a certain point regardless of whether the tank was dea... : NastyJack
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    ^^^This. It seems that just about every level will punish your for grouping in one place to long, but the... : surley_monkey
    • Its interesting how L4D2 has changed so much with something so simple as the AI director giving few break... : Serpico74
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    I would modify that by saying pick a spot a little distance ahead, run like hell to it, then pause and wa... : nothigh
    • We sort of do that, but we put more responsibility on the people in the back. If someone falls behind or : Serpico74
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  Its easy. Add KoolAidMan and we'll do this! : Serpico74
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    http://steamcommunity.com/id/KoolAidMan : Serpico74
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      Have you made any expert runs yet? I want to start beating some campaigns on expert and get some new achi... : hax3d
      • Not yet but I'm ready to, either that or advanced on realism. : Serpico74
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        hahaha, me, bond and two other shackers failed expert dark carnival finale about 10 times on sunday : ]pm[chem
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          The gauntlet to get into the arena seems like it would be tougher than the campaign finale itself. That n... : Serpico74
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            getting in was easy -- the special infected spawning during tank fights usually did us in. it was too ea... : ]pm[chem
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              To be clear, I'm talking about the end of the prior level, when you open the gates (which sets off the al... : Serpico74
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                oh, yeah. that part was hard too. finale was still harder :/ : ]pm[chem
                • Oh wow, that part was always the hardest on advanced. Gotta try that finale on expert some time. : Serpico74
• I'm ready! http://steamcommunity.com/id/hax3d Let's do it! : hax3d
• sorry I need to bail for a bit. Will invite later. : bagelcc
• Adrenaline is fucking amazing for that final stretch. Run faster, shoot faster, reload faster, push past ... : node
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  INVITE ME: c0brac0bra : c0bra
  • I have this game on a separate account so I have no friends to play with currently :( : c0bra
  • http://steamcommunity.com/id/c0brac0bra there : c0bra
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  http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21538854 I beat the bridge at the end of the Parish campaign. Mos... : Maddog_Delphi97
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    Bridge finale is like Valve's "fuck you" to sightseers and stragglers. Run or die : Serpico74
    • True, but I'll give them credit where credit is due, I did not expect it to turn out that way. Which jus... : Maddog_Delphi97
    • If you do it on easy you can go slow just fine. : Chod
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  ok my fucking 360 just red ringed. Anyone in for some parish? : bagelcc
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    ok now Steam is down FML : bagelcc
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      yep I thought I was the only one : c0bra
      • omg back up start a game again! : c0bra
    • ok we have 2. Any more? : bagelcc

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  Rob Roy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGNiEExZkk8 (I think that's edited some, can see the whole movie ... : Nixx2004
  • Love that scene. Wish the clip didn't have the music added. : thejay247
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  I'm obviously weird. I didn't like Oldboy at all and I only really liked the first Bourne movie. : pimpium
  • i liked both. oldboy was definitely more of a 'wtf' movie though. : gokart.
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  I always liked the final fight in Drunken Master 2, the Tae Kwon Do dude with the crazy kicks. : grandmasterlee
  • I like that fight as well. Its a damn long fight to. : pimpium
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxkr4wS7XqY : K0LM
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  crippled masters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvkhYcTEwRE : retardhumper
  • How truly awesome was that! : Flinz
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  Fist of Legend EOT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p2YmjZ6FRY PS I don't know if the whole scene i... : Rotten Deadite
  • ^^ A bunch of the scenes from that movie are awesome. The scene where he breaks the student's leg with t... : bcyde
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  The Protector? Fight scene up the winding floors of that building. : shadebane
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    Oh, god, seconded. Link! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXIGP6_fNZk : Vimn
    • you'll HAVE to watch this then.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ze-xQoEfOU the quality is bad, but it'... : Flinz
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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmjaWn-pVvI : ninjase
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    Oh man that was such a great movie. One of my all time favorites. I'm not crazy about the fact that : Rotten Deadite
    • Well, it IS a Chinese movie! : ninjase
• Kill-Bill 1 & 2 both had awesome fight scenes (House of Blue Leaves in 1 and Daryl Hannah vs. Uma in 2) : Frank_Mackey
• a couple from district 13: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8ClZ-Bxjyk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P... : Majuju
• The Young Master final fight, the real EOT: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpCV_7ZmTiE&feature=PlayLis... : Mad Brahmin Disease
• the entire movie of Iron Monkey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN1MuxCjq6A : ninjase
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  can I nominate a tv fight?Rome arena fight http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iJTi_OITEo : peat
  • oh yes I agree sir : phokz
• for me it's a toss-up between these two: Riki-Oh: The Story of Ricky: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=... : Herman Toothrot
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  I know people like that Oldboy scene, but best camera work in a fight scene? The camera angle is interest... : Vincent Grayson
  • I actually like it because it's minimal. It doesn't get tin the way, there's no fast cuts so you can't te... : daVinci1980
• Tokyo Gore Police : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dODrnOadmjc : On the Brane
• No love for They Live? Rowdy Roddy was the best! : zipr
• A Bittersweet Life; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_o3TJYGvrs I love that movie. : Mr. Goodwrench
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  I'll second Oldboy and Fist of Legend. I've always loved the club battle in The Crow tho - granted I was... : ThrillKill
  • oh shi.. don't forget this riDONKulous epic from Flash Point: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buITXcldEcY : ThrillKill
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  I always liked the They Live fight scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqKFadyJxwg : DianeOfTheMoon
  • Seconded! : Earl Greigh
• The entire Game of Death movie. : sreyes22
• The way of the Gun's opening scene is pretty great, too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xsaMcw69D8 : DianeOfTheMoon
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  Irreversible - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ8SmXdwRn8 (kinda bad quality) : fotografico
  • Holy fuck that was brutal. : mizterd99
• blade :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3YLY88-qcs : mindshot
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  Ong Bak, pick a scene.. probably. : dealie
  • hopefully not one where the chick talks. : Turd Ferguson
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p2YmjZ6FRY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqq9-jidlD0 http://www.youtub... : Foxhawk
• Kirk Vs. Spock http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyhhFzE5O5U dun dun du du du du du dun du du dun! : Arcath
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  Jackie Chan vs. Benny "The Jet" Urquidez from "Wheels on Meals" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6eC-B... : Rag and Bone Man
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    Fantastic fight scene. Part with the candles is real iirc. : Supine
    • it is very much real : SolrFlare
• The scene in Warrior King or The Protector or whatever it was called in your region where Tony Jaa fights... : -JLN-
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  Equilibrium end sequence. Most notable around 5:30 in this clip vs. Taye Diggs: http://www.youtube.com/... : mizterd99
  • Also, all of 300. : mizterd99
• i thought that fight was one of the only good things about the oldboy . : anthonybean
• The Price is wrong.......bitch. : phil_mckraken
• WTF Bloodsport motherfuckers http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0YDuSLXcX8 : H@rvester
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihuDwkL9_Ng Best Gopher-Chucks : Printmatic

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  Seriously, there's some great work to be checking out in those links, so hop to it! : jasonepowell
  • Friendly front page push for pictars. : NFXFSX
• Voted : NFXFSX
• Not sure about the latest assignment entries, as I'm not quite clear on what the subject of the competiti... : dodob
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  Voted!! :D jasonepowell did you see that Chunks wanted to join our little group and take pics? : Galadriel07
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    I sure did, and approved him first thing this morning! He is our 200th member! : jasonepowell
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      What does he win?!?! : sparkly
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        I think you said you'd buy him a new camera and set up a private photo shoot with naked chicks, right? O... : jasonepowell
        • I did say that...shit. : sparkly
    • dude, he should totally get a prize! hrm what can we give him? : Galadriel07
• Oh my, some seriously awesome pictures in both sets! Awesome job EVERYONE! : rlc:tk
• also voted. nice work! : piser
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  looking at these pictures reminds me how much more work i have to do getting decent at photography, guess... : Herman Toothrot
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    all i did was take my camera with me just about everywhere I go. That way when the possibility of a cool... : Galadriel07
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      yeah, i tried to do that with my slr, which was fun but became impractical after a while, just this weeke... : Herman Toothrot
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        I'm thinking about getting one of those myself. I think having a nice portable camera to keep with you (... : jasonepowell
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          I always keep my holga in my car :D : sparkly
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            i keep trying to shoot on film, i have two film cameras, but i always feel like i'm wasting the frame, al... : Herman Toothrot
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              You know, one trick you can use since you have a DSLR is to get the shot set with manual controls on the ... : jasonepowell
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                how much better is the color on something like velvia? i find i often try to capture colors that my camer... : Herman Toothrot
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                  Velvia (in particular) is so saturated that the colors are amazing. For digital, you'd have to do that i... : jasonepowell
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                    i'll have to try it then, i do have a roll of velvia, but i haven't shot more than a frame or two of it d... : Herman Toothrot
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                      I just shot a roll of iso 50 medium format velvia (220)...it looks amazing. I pushed the film a stop (lon... : sparkly
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                        what scanner did you get? : drucifer
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                          Canon Canoscan 8800F -- http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16838111015 Now, I'm a bit... : sparkly
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                            oh, interesting...this is a creative solution: http://www.flickr.com/photos/zgodzinski/3028562018/comment... : sparkly
                            • bookmarked. I will try this too : drucifer
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                            I have the same one! I just cut my own film though :P : drucifer
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                              yeah...I ended up cutting the film. How do you organize your film? : sparkly
                              • I buy sleeve sheets that can be put in a three ring binder. : drucifer
  • Definitely shoot lots. Also keep in mind these are people's favorite shots over a 3 month period. I've... : piser
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    That's the whole point of the assignment group, sir! It's hard to come up with things to shoot when you'... : jasonepowell
    • yeah, i'm thinking i'm gonna join up and try it : Herman Toothrot
    • This is the exact reason I like the group. I am new and am getting good feedback as well as having ideas... : Galadriel07
• oops : gmd
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  I've been totally out of it recently. :( Hopefully I'll be able to do contrast though! : bakanoodle
  • you better! : drucifer
• Really awesome stuff in there. Don't really want to join the group just to vote, but pretty pretty stuff... : Zhaneel
• Pre-ER bump! : jasonepowell

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  frame interpolation : moshman
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    But are they worth it, or even better than 'normal' ones? : Nixx2004
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      awesome for sports, but it makes movies look like soap operas. : cpt_gloval
      • I like the effect when it's done right! we're just not used to more natural video frame rates in movies : Postal
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    Well you COULD do that I suppose. But you'd see some pretty crazy shit. Even then... 60Hz TV could do t... : ShadowRam
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      But that would explain the weird 'laggy' strangeness I saw on a 240hz TV..... bleh.... : ShadowRam
      • So turn it off. It's that simple. : Prozium
• Telecine. Film is 24 fps, tv is 30 fps. 120 is the least common multiple. 240 is probably for inter... : arhughes
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  It allows 24p, 30p, and 60p, content to be displayed without any need for pulldown. All those easily mult... : Prozium
  • this is the correct response : gmd
  • +inf for the real answer : OverloadUT
  • Lock it down. This thread is over. : midgetherder
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    Wtf do you do for a living? Or do you just know your nerdy tech stuff? You always give good answers t... : devi| dog
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      I'm just a big AV nerd that keeps current on the tech because I like movies and TV. I just spent about 2 ... : Prozium
      • Get one that has Audyssey - http://www.audyssey.com/products?f=consumer-ready Make sure it has at least:... : Shadowdane
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        I think Devil Dog is in love with you. : surley_monkey
        • No, you start that with a huge dildo through your WE. : devi| dog
      • Tell me your current setup and what you're looking at for a receiver. I want to copy you because you are... : treefingers1
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        So what HDTV do you own then? : manlyman
        • Pioneer Kuro PDP-5020FD : Prozium
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    I have no idea what you just wrote. : bling1bling
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      120/240hz = good frame interpolation (AMP, motionplus, other shitty name depending on manufacturer) = sh... : Prozium
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        I've used 120 hz motion lus and yes things looked like soap operas at first but now it looks natural and ... : bling1bling
        • Oops I lost a 'p' : bling1bling
        • what the fuck does "like a soap opera" mean? quit watching soap operas faggots : e v i l
    • Pulldown is essentially a piece of crap procedure that is necessary to remedy the fact that most things a... : ieGod
  • How do I wacth movie : MaxPete82
  • Doesn't it still require pulldown? It is just 5-5 pulldown instead of 3-2 pulldown, which results in a mu... : arhughes
  • Thanks, sweet info. : Nitrium
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    "On a typical 60hz lcd set the resolution when in motion was only about 600-700 lines. 120hz brought this... : Freon
    • i think it's a matter of how fast it can refresh the screen. while it's still running at 30 fps, the 240... : ibrokn
  • Thanks Proz... : ShadowRam
  • I learned something today! Ty, sir! : surley_monkey
  • So I should be buying a 120Hz TV but turn off frame interpolation? : Mmmmmoo
  • Motion resolution? : sumo-hacker
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  its good if you like looking at a smeared mess for all your movies and television. : headbone
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    stop it with this bullshit. You can turn that effect off on every HDTV that has it and the panel still ru... : Prozium
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      then why bother if you're just going to turn it off. The only real reason would be if you're hooking up y... : headbone
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        You're talking about something that has NOTHING to do with the refresh rate and everything to do with fra... : ieGod
        • That should have read " the set will still benefit from..." : ieGod
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          it will only benefit if you're video source is higher then 60 fps : headbone
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            no, it'll also benefit because the higher refresh helps with the actual resolution when in motion. That 1... : Prozium
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              My 1080p tv displays every single frame of my 24 fps movie, there is no need to create additional frames.... : headbone
              • I agree. Don't worry about motion resolution. It really is hard to spot it once a panel is about 800+ lin... : Prozium
              • There is a need and it is called flicker. : DarkWolf5
          • You definitely don't know what you're talking about. : ieGod
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        because the panel still runs at 120hz or 240hz when the interpolating is turned off. This helps with the ... : Prozium
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          I don't buy this. If you turn off interpolation and the display is showing exactly X refreshes per frame... : Freon
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            since the panel is running at 240hz instead of 60hz it needs to refresh the pixels 4x as fast. This is wh... : Prozium
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              You're trying to derail. My post is purely about 120hz vs. 240hz. I totally understand you need 120hz t... : Freon
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                You don't need 120hz to remove 3:2 pulldown, any TV that has the feature can do it, along with most upcon... : headbone
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                  Please tell me how an upconverting dvd player removes pulldown when it upscales the 480p DVD source to 10... : Prozium
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                    you have it backwards, its a 480i DVD source, which it removes the pulldown, creating a progressive image... : headbone
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                      "Pulldown" is not a property of the image or movie itself. It cannot be "removed." It is a problem ... : Freon
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                        huh no. No dvd player outputs 120hz. Hell I can think of only 1 television that even accepts 120hz. ( Mit... : DarkWolf5
                        • Err, yeah my bad. : Freon
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                        Yes pulldown can be removed by reversing the process. The HDTV, dvd player etc can remove the extra field... : headbone
                        • +inf : yacoub35
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                      so how is that 1080p24 converted to fit on a 1080p60 display? : Prozium
                      • that's up to your TV's image processor : headbone
                  • You mean 1080p60, not 1080p30. The whole point of the 'p' is 60hz, vs interlaced which is like a half-re... : qsylvr
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            This depends on the frame source. If you have a device outputting at 60Hz you're good. Your movies do not... : ieGod
            • I know... http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21543855#itemanchor_21543855 : Freon
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          I don't know what you mean "motion resolution" are you saying that when images are in motion the resoluti... : headbone
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            motion resolution is true. there were a bunch of tests on it.. while in motion, a lot of 1080p TV's were ... : xsoulbrothax
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              Ok we're finally getting somewhere. But this seems not a property of the refresh rate, but of the speed ... : Freon
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                Yeah that seems logical. The bottleneck is the image processor. A 60hz tv should be refreshing 60 times a... : headbone
                • i think it's a combination of image processor and the panel itself (pixel response times can't keep up wi... : xsoulbrothax
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        Is HDMI even fast enough to display 1080p at 120+hz? I think dual link DVI is (at least to 120hz), but I... : Freon
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          The duplicate frames are created in the TV's video processor. The video from the BR player would only be ... : MisterClaw
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            Read what I was replying to... "...if you were to use it on a PC..." I.e. if you wanted to use it a... : Freon
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              Yes, HDMI has the bandwidth to do 1080p @ 120hz. : MisterClaw
              • HDMI 1.3+ does, earlier versions do not. : MisterClaw
• 120hz is required to remove the "3:2 pulldown" you get when trying to display 24 frames onto 60 frames. ... : Freon
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  So plasma is still the best right? I think so : bozer
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    Yes. : Endymion_
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      Except for power requirements, weight, and lifespan. : yacoub35
      • Lifespan's kind of moot at this point - IIRC it's 10 years for a plasma to lose half its brightness, and ... : xsoulbrothax
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  Anyone watch 2010 and noticed it was pushing extra frames as well? It just doesn't feel right. : DooBall
  • You mean the movie 2012? They shot that whole thing on video and it looked like ass. : Serpico74
• I am an expert on this stuff let me help : Downforce
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  its a fucking abomination. makes everything look like a soap opera shot on video. HATE. : mankeroo
  • Prozium, step off the ledge! You have so much to live for! : DarkWolf5
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    it's a fucking crime that you people who don't understand the difference between frame interpolation and ... : electroly
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      He's commenting on how the image looks, how is he wrong if he doesn't like how it looks? : pres589
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        Just like you, he doesn't know what he's commenting on, and is getting upset about the wrong thing : Arctic Fox
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          He was commenting on the IMAGE, and I'm saying that he can't be wrong about that, but he can be wrong abo... : pres589
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            he's wrong about what causes the poor image. he thinks it's because it's 120Hz, but it's actually becaus... : electroly
            • Yeah I understand that now. I've heard people outside of this interweb discussion say the same thing t... : pres589
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        Because the soap opera effect is the result of frame interpolation, NOT 120hz. They are two different thi... : aggressor
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          Why is this so difficult for people to wrap there head around??? :( : mwasher
          • Dunno, but it wouldn't even be a problem if they would just stop talking about things they don't know :( : aggressor
          • I can think of plenty of things that people have problems with. : rosewood
          • I love it every time 120hz comes up here. : fsck
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          I don't know about other TV's, but my friends Samsung Plasma doesn't have an option to turn off frame int... : MagicWishMonkey
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            Some do, but then some are a pain in the ass and you have to disable it like every time you watch TV : kill9
            • Is it something only the super-expensive sets have? My friend has a really nice one, surprised the option... : MagicWishMonkey
            • If only we would all stop talking, then the world would understand. :( : pres589
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            I have yet to see a Plasma tv with 120hz refresh rate. 96 hz, 72, hz , 48 hz. models? Yes. And in that c... : DarkWolf5
            • Maybe it's an LCD, I thought it was Plasma though. : MagicWishMonkey
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        because he's talking about frame interpolation, which can and should be turned off, whereas everyone else... : electroly
        • it pains me to think of how many people are choosing against 120Hz TVs because some dipshit told them it ... : electroly
        • Ah, I see. So it's a setup issue or something that could be easily fixed then? I don't pay a lot of a... : pres589
    • Mention plasma's 600hz and watch their head explode! : aggressor
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      So 240Hz removes the soap opera look while still providing interpolation pulldown? Or does it use extrapo : jake
      • At 480 hz you break the speed of light and get sport scores before anyone else. : DarkWolf5
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    In my opinion it just shows the cheapness of the medium. Bluray and 1080p really show if a movie was ski... : old and busted vs the new hotness
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      He's talking about the quality of the movement. It can make The Godfather or No Country For Old Men look ... : Serpico74
      • well at least it'd make girls more interested in the movies. : old and busted vs the new hotness
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  To summarize...is it worth it? : Nixx2004
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    hold you mouth closed and don't move a muscle until you have a nice pool of spit. Now spit it out above ... : old and busted vs the new hotness
    • Well...that was messy. : Nixx2004
    • shit i think i have a new favorite hobby : GloriousCow

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  The one that comes to mind is Samus revealing that she's a chick in Metroid, but I can't find a screensho... : helvetica
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    http://chrisdlugosz.net/x/metroid_ending.png : Deathlove
    • Deathlove to the rescue! : helvetica
    • she was a redhead in the first game? why did they change that? :( : Herman Toothrot
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    It's the very end of the first game, I don't remember what the bikini code was, if some one does they cou... : one random winner
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      It was 'Justin Bailey' if I remember correctly. No idea how the fuck I actually DO remember that, if it's... : Clasifyd
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        JUSTIN BAILEY ------ ------ : rgoer
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          ICARUS FIGHTS MEDUSA ANGELS : Deathlove
          • Aside from the Konami code and the Sega Shadowrun code, this is the one I remember the most, and certainl... : Piett23
  • wow fucking spoiler! : Chandler55
• It's a screenshot, but as close to a cutscene as you can get: http://www.doubleginntonic.com/wp-content/u... : Deathlove
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  Need a shot of the part in FF3 when you're leaving the floating island with Shadow. : sreyes22
  • Also, where Terra goes all esper mode, and Cyan's whole introduction sequence. : one random winner
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  Kain.. FF2.. on the mountain.... : ShadowRam
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    7:20...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnEEbaX7sGQ : ShadowRam
    • here let me help you with that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dnEEbaX7sGQ#t=7m20s : rgoer
• bastard girlfriend in rad racer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDYYdSMrI5E : mindmann
• Check out this gold mine I just found for you: http://www.c64endings.freeolamail.com/index.htm that ... : FormerHPB
• the animations when you slam dunked in Double Dribble for NES were pretty awesome. : ass-street
• http://analogmedium.com/blog/2008/05/NES-TMNT2.gif it was so much like the arcade (for its time) : SolveChrist
• http://members.iinet.net.au/~nick_smith/THURMAN.jpg all the Tecmo Bowl ones were awesome. : lowpoly
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  Thanks guys! The reason I ask is that I've been doing some mosaics lately and am always looking for new t... : geedeck
  • sweeeeeet : ass-street
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  NES Bionic Commando's endgame explosion was bad ass. http://www.vgmuseum.com/end/nes/a/bionic.htm : pigvomit
  • I still think that big explosion after you escape looks like a giant hairball. : omnova
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    This base will explod in 60 seconds. : Fish_Bulb
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      Were there such things as proof readers in the NES time period? It seems like every major release in the... : pigvomit
      • Back then the translation was usually done by the programmers in Japan. : guido anchovy
  • I came to post this - one of the best endings ever : flagg209
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    this shit traumatized me : Chandler55
    • er i mean the explodin face : Chandler55
• Beginning of castlevania 3: http://www.towerofmist.net/cv3/prayer.gif : Fish_Bulb
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  man i hated that bastard sun: http://farm1.static.flickr.com/117/302800297_de643f3feb.jpg : mindmann
  • Kick a damned koopa shell at it man! : one random winner
• Phantasy Star - the original: http://www.shackpics.com/files/alis_wwkjbvnc1d2mael2jx8x.gif : Home Nugget
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  The ending to Mega Man 2. I can't find a screen cap but the MMHP sums it up The ending begins when : Schnapple
  • I spent a bunch of time looking for this! : geedeck
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXcNZ1Tn23Y#t=4m20s : buzzbat
  • http://farm1.static.flickr.com/46/135355704_142f34f95e.jpg sort of : homeboyJim
  • Hell yeah, I remember wanting to record the ending of this one. : devi| dog
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  Defender of the Crown, when you rescue the ladies! : enyakk
  • Never could get that cart to work. I'm pretty sure they shipped with a huge bug that prevented the battle... : davantalus
  • It was actually a 16 bit game. : guigr
• http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=ScreenshotJPG_uok5skijq2vfiqcc8b3m.jpg : buzzbat
• huh. searching for NES games reminded me of this one: http://www.mywii.com.au/img/game/Solomon-s-Key-4.jp... : mindmann
• Anything in here. http://derekyu.com/avgpa/ : AhmNee
• http://homepages.tesco.net/~parsonsp/assets/images/Decathlon4.gif : [7]kami
• http://teapotdigest.com/images/zelda1.gif : Lawgiver
• http://s.uvlist.net/l/y2005/12/2279.jpg : [7]kami
• classic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icVy7Ve6y6A : skelom
• The entirety of Shadow of the Beast on the Amiga. : Dynotaku
• http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/03/ninja-gaiden-nes2.gif : Omaha
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  Another World: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgkf6wooDmw Not sure where to find cut scene shots (sc... : Jobos
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    16-bit (on consoles). : LoioshDwaggie
    • 16 bit is okay depending on color palette/pixel composition : geedeck
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3pzRgtYDmo#t=35s Fantastic horizontal composition that managed to laun... : Shadsy
• keen 5 - http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=1_tbe6sjrslbkyf4dx5dzv.gif : acidravelamp
• This is an awesome thread. : virus
• Leisure Suit Larry, the end scene with Eve. http://www.armchairempire.com/images/feature-articles/Week... : CoreContingency

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• jesus christ that's fucking brilliant : Halen
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  that thing is so insanely insecure that it boggles my mind anyone would be willing to use one : maulla
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    yeah i know. handing your credit card to some stranger is MUCH safer. It's not like they have cheap card ... : wtf242
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      That device looks like its used by merchants. You honestly expect the encryption and security of that tra... : maulla
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        why wouldn't it be as secure? Securing credit card numbers is not something new. There are standard ways ... : wtf242
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          If they are touting no fees then they are not using a traditional processing system. : maulla
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            they are touting no monthly fees. i don't see them touting no per-transaction fees. : electroly
            • (and i'm assuming they're just rolling their fees into the per-transaction costs) : electroly
      • there is obviously a third party managing these transactions. that's the only way they can get away with... : electroly
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        I'm sure it uses a standard SSL secured HTTP connection, so it's just as secure as buying something throu... : MagicWishMonkey
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          I'm confused about the part where it says it works with any device with an audio jack. Obviously, it's on... : BlackCat9
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            Perhaps it gets power from headphone jack and then sends data over bluetooth. : Code RedBeard
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              Sends it over Bluetooth to what? Bluetooth isn't a TCP/IP protocol and only works locally between devices... : BlackCat9
              • I doubt it's anything that sophisticated. I suspect that it simply requires their proprietary software o... : electroly
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            You dial a number to process the card. The device turns the magstrip into sound. The sound goes over the... : GloriousCow
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              so when they say "works with any device with an audio jack" they mean "only works with cell phones"? : electroly
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                how are you going to process a credit card with a tape recorder? : GloriousCow
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                  I was referring more to a laptop with an audio jack. Why would they even bring up "any device" if it spe... : electroly
                  • although i CAN think of some ways that you could do it with a tape recorder for instance playing it ba... : electroly
                  • I'd bet laptops are one of their core target devices. Install some software and bam, instant credit card... : Halen
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              I wonder how well that works if you have crummy reception. It must have a pretty good error correction al... : BlackCat9
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                And how does it send the signature and transaction? Also as sound? Then it has to also receive back a sig... : BlackCat9
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                  in case you haven't put it all together, he's describing a modem : electroly
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                    and all the normal authentication methods would work fine : electroly
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                      I get that, it just seems like it's kind of re-inventing the wheel, here. We already have TCP/IP that sol... : BlackCat9
                      • I don't see why it can't do it that way either, I'm sure it depends on the dataplan, etc. : Halen
              • pretty sure we're talking about the same kind of tech that made credit card machines work over asstastic ... : Halen
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    obviously we don't know much about the implementation, but why would this be less secure than having them... : electroly
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      they could just write down your credit card information on a post-it note if they wanted : electroly
      • like a cashier with a half-decent memory : Halen
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      there is more to card security then someone stealing the card number off the front. youre talking about e... : maulla
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        Traditional machines also mask the card number as soon as the initial approval goes through. that shit do... : maulla
        • You're making a large amount of assumptions about the implementation here. It could do everything you spe... : Yanks
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    Using a credit card at a restaruant is equally if not more insecure. : WhatIsThisFor
    • Seriously you give your credit card to the waiter and then they walk off god knows where, who would ever ... : Zek
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    jailbroken iphones and androids are very open systems compared to a card reader. i doubt this will pass ... : Klebold
    • Why? Visa and MC both require application exit to already be secured. The platform that application run... : rt702
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      Why? Visa and MC both require application exit to already be secured. The platform that application run... : rt702
      • grr double post...nuke please. : rt702
• This will not end well. : Arcanum
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  So this will make me never want to give a waiter a credit card, ever. : kingdepork
  • it would be just as conspicuous for them to pull out their iphone and swipe your card as it would be for ... : multisync
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  shit. this would be fucking awesome for drug dealers : wtf242
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    this is what we've wanted all this time: a paper trail : boring gegtik
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkU19uj8GqQ : mrvandelay
    • The Wire? : doomed
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    not so much the dealers since now there will be paper trail for their business, but excellent for the cra... : kevp
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      all the crackheads with iphones and card readers. You all are retarded. : kgargs
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        no, the crackheads who mug people for their credit cards and then take the credit cards to the dealers wi... : kevp
        • Why hello there Mr. Unaccountable Income? Odd how you have all these small transactions from stolen cred... : trove
  • stop stealing my jokes : mwasher
• yeah having my credit card info swiped into someones iphone is exactly what I want to do : retardhumper
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  This idea is pretty cool actually. The only difference between this and traditional scanners is it works... : DHAvatar
  • so can you make it say whatever you want for the transaction description? : yacoub35
• wow... : ass-street
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  i would never trust someone who wants to use this thing. : .frame
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    and yet you trust waiters making minimum wage in a restaurant with your info. : NexusOne
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      I give a waiter my card with the expectation that the restaurant is responsible for what happens with my ... : .frame
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        I had a friend who worked at a CVS way back in freshman year of high school. He just looked at the cards... : mwasher
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          well i'm not an idiot I realize that. That doesn't change the fact that if I'm buying something at a boo... : .frame
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            if you are buying stuff at a boot at a street festival would you use your credit card period if you are w... : mwasher
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              no i wouldn't. That's my point. It seems like this device is made for that purpose isn't it? : .frame
              • I think it's safe to assume that this thing would have security to prevent the device from storing the da... : Zek
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          don't you usually need the billing address to even make a purchase : gmd
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            when's the last time you gave your billing address to the waiter at a restaurant : electroly
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              I meant just having the number : gmd
              • Apparently not because my parents have had their number stolen twice (both times at restaurants) and they... : WhatIsThisFor
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              you need the name on it too, i can look you up on the internets and try your home address. : mrvandelay
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                The name is encoded on the card is it not? : c0bra
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                  It's written on the front of the card... : mrvandelay
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                    That's useless if you're blind! : c0bra
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                      the name is in raised print! : electroly
                      • That's useless if it's been hammered out! : c0bra
            • when's the last time you paid a bill at a restaurant with only a credit card number? : Mad Brahmin Disease
          • for lots of things I guess. not online poker!! : mwasher
          • You only would need to give this out if the card isn't present at the point of purchase like on Internet ... : cetra00
        • I used to know someone who worked at the Outback around here and said the guys would look for the people ... : NukemFornever
        • my brother did this, but actually used them =\ : Agrona
      • Exactly... : razlebol
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      waiters don't make minimum wage. they typically make something like $2.50/hr and then the rest completel... : mwasher
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        In California they make minimum wage. It's the law. : SqueegyTBS
        • So it seems. Not sure how common that is. In both TN and TX it is ~$2.15/hr : mwasher
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        Depends where. In Ontario if they don't make at least minimum wage with tips then the restaurant must mak... : ieGod
        • I would think that would be averaged out over a week or so in which case if you are a server and not maki... : mwasher
        • in Alberta, they have to pay minimum wage, regardless of the tips you receive : ruckboos
      • in WA they make at least minimum : kbnerd
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        mwasher, minimum wage is the law : Majuju
        • Personally, minimum wage should increase every year with inflation. : one random winner
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          A tipped employee engages in an occupation in which he or she customarily and regularly receives more tha : mwasher
          • between this and the "giving birth is a short-term disability", I conclude that america sucks : Majuju
  • this is why this will never fly, rational reason or not, everyone will look at it like, wtf is this? : Chandler55
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  when can I stick my penis on my phone??? : whistletits
  • on = in : whistletits
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  hahahah DOES THIS LOOK LIKE THE PAYER? : Downforce
  • Gordon Freeman has put on weight. : pieman
• This would be kind of neat among friends but I wouldn't trust a business with this form of payment. : ruckboos
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  I think swiping should be removed. I have my card # memorized just let me key it in myself. Much more sa... : multisync
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    my number is 3214 5675 3456 1024 what is yours? : gmd
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      i'm completely serious. i use one card, my amex, i have the number, expiration and security code memoriz... : multisync
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        it will have "keep card info cached for EZ future purchases!! :D" enabled by default on all apps : Downforce
        • If it does, I hope a lot of people with jailbroken phones with default SSH passwords get this app. : Haxim
      • Do you have the CSV number also memorised? i hear that makes fraud almost impossible. : Klebold
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        I could memorize yours too and just go anywhere and use it. Your idea is stupid. : redfive
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          by "stupid" do you mean "the only reason internet commerce works" : electroly
          • I feel the convenience of being able to buy shit anytime, anywhere outweighs the security risk. I watch m... : askedrelic
          • I'm not talking Internet Commerce. I'm talking about the anonymity of walking into a store and inputting... : redfive
        • physical media for anything nowadays is stupid! CDs DVDs Games Cards MAKE IT ALL DIGITAL MOTHERFUC... : multisync
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        I'd rather use biometric security. It's too easy to steal credit card information like multisync's. : Maddog_Delphi97
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          I'm gonna cut off your fingers and steal your monies : epit
          • shit, would you at least buy me a copy of duke nukem forever with my money when it comes out? : Maddog_Delphi97
      • Yeah me too. : Freon
    • Anyone remember that guy who poo-poo'd internet security and offered his CC# (or SS#, cannot remember whi... : LoioshDwaggie
  • Why would you want to key it in yourself instead of swiping it yourself? : Zek
  • Same I have my card memorized. : hirosushima
• I take it square is going to add another transaction fee on top of the credit card fee in order to fund i... : trove
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  The problem I'm seeing with this is fraud prevention. Or rather, fraud resolution. It is essentially t... : fvariance
  • did you even look at the website? http://a0.sqimg.com/static/e315c85640d28751f139ad87ac95c97ac8c20a5e/im... : epit
• *pushes up glasses* Obviously these guys know nothing about how business works. *I* do. This is stupid an... : not work safe
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  looks to me as retarded as twitter sounded when I first heard of it, so it will probably be a huge succes... : supersonic potato
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    • i know i dont understand all these posts above :( mindboggle : Iwannaacura
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  Fuck all these nitwits. I think it's kickass wtf242. I hope everyone in this thread (except you and i, ... : Phil
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    why do you hate me so? : kbnerd
    • actually i love you all and wish you well. carry on. : Phil
  • Iawtp : bongturbo
• I thought Apple was already using iPod Touches to do transactions in their store with some kind of card r... : BlackCat9
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  Do want for band merch table, this looks like a potentially awesome way for us to be able to take card at... : TabsAZ
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    I'm starting an "after hours alcohol" business where I drive from party to party and sell bottles of liqu... : wtf242
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      thats not a half bad idea, actually! : epit
      • Cab drivers do that around here. It's also a great way for underage drinkers to buy booze. : Ellissd
      • At least until ATF gets wise. : DarkWolf5
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      i don't suppose you need a liquor license to sell alcohol : boring gegtik
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        only if i get caught : wtf242
        • with your luck you've probably already been caught. : not work safe
      • is there somewhere i can get a selling license? : mwasher
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      There are a bunch of services like that already (In Canada, at least). Some are legit, will take your ord... : honkfrog
      • yeah in glasgow its called dial-a-booze. : disembodied potato
    • beerrun.com : cpt_gloval
    • Well at least we know you won't backup the records : Phreakin
  • the downside is you have to hand some drunk fuck your iphone to sign : GloriousCow
• wait hold on a minute guys..I think I'm getting something..yeah I think I just had a thought. What if we... : fathertime
• That's fucking brilliant. : Rice-Rocketeer
• this is how i will charge for blowjobs from now on : Mansmells
• wow that's awesome : Dravenport
• So it's kind of like what Japan, and probably Korea has been doing with the cell phones for years now. A... : Wombat Woo
• I don't see anything about PCI compliance. Doubt it'll last long. : cr00kedview

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  Nice. :( Why can't it come here, I'm right by a school. Saw a couple Verizon trucks doing something... : Nixx2004
  • try again in a few months... after Verizon layed Fiber in my parents neighborhood it took them about 3 ... : Shadowdane
• holy shit you epeenis just gained 5 yards : Utopia
• Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck you : noodleboy723
• Host me a server worthy of Mordor. : Klebold
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  http://www.shackpics.com/files/FUUUUUUUUUUU_avwfwvnaswdxddj7jy5z.png : theangrywaffles
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    The worst part is when you see the ISP Average :( : humbleone
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      I want to stab myself in the face when trying to play multiplayer games, especially when my dipshit broth... : theangrywaffles
      • I solved this problem with tomato firmware on our router. My roommates can download on their throttled co... : datoo
  • i got that same speed but i forgot i had steam downloading games in the background. : Turd Ferguson
• That there is some fine interwebs. : freqq28
• Test your internet speeds on this: http://home.comcast.net/~guidoanchovy/wtf.html : guido anchovy
• I cry when I can now say that my FiOS is slow compared to that :( http://www.speedtest.net/result/6396... : Sothebys
• I <3 my Fios. : rmjackson
• hahahah holy what the fuck, you could become an ISP with that sort of pipe : Downforce
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  downloading 1gb file from microsoft ♥ http://www.shackpics.com/files/iso_visfy19cdpqvu1k3wcc5.j... : wurt
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    Yeah, I have noticed our lines seem to be under rated by 500k/s. When I get stuff from MSDN it goes at 2.... : Sothebys
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      2.5 * 8 = 20. it's exactly as rated. : electroly
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        :( : Sothebys
        • also you were adopted : electroly
  • Allow me to state, clearly. I hate you >:( : Toraz Chryx
• I really wish I could get FiOS :( : DOOManiac
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  http://www.speedtest.net/result/639613159.png : bozer
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    I don't know why my up is so ridiculously high. I need to call them and see if they installed the right p... : wurt
    • yep -- that is insane. Dont call but then when you get your bill say WTF you didnt ask for it : bozer
    • HELLO VERIZON? MY INTERNET IS TOO FAST DAMMIT : GloriousCow
    • You got the NBA package -- mad ups. : yacoub35
• What package you have that gives you that ridiculous upload? Jesus thats insane and I thought mine was go... : bozer
• ping 6ms, wtf? : filthysock
• hello fellow NJ FIOS buddy : YerMothah
• Welcome to the real internet friend, http://www.speedtest.net/result/639635212.png : socksta
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  http://www.speedtest.net/result/639636350.png lol I love my net connection. : Jabby
  • Oh shit.....I'm staying at your place when I visit cali from now on. : socksta
  • lol nice : wurt
  • Wow. Do you work at Cox or something? : datoo
  • You love cox : Utopia
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  do I really have to drag my huge cock into this conversation? http://www.speedtest.net/result/63963980... : Supine
  • hahahahahaha wow ! : wurt
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    Korea doesn't count. That's cheating. : datoo
    • I bet any sites that actually matter are slow as shit. How's youtube over there, buddy? : old and busted vs the new hotness
• http://www.speedtest.net/result/639649527.png Comcast cable. 14Mb/4Mb. o_O : jard
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  Bandwidth is only part of the story. Be sure to check your Line Quality at my new site, www.pingtest.net ... : haiku
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    Every time I've tried this I get "unable to measure packet loss". I guess the firewall is stopping it. ... : Colleton
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      install java : wurt
      • NO. : YerMothah
• How much did that cost? : bolneze
• thats some sick fucking upload sir.. you have me beat: http://www.speedtest.net/result/639668700.png : rmjackson

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  buy a new computer! : kbnerd
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    already did, its only a week old : hanged_man
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      buy a new house! : kbnerd
      • would a new small flat do the job !! : hanged_man
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  Wireless? Vista? : Sothebys
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    also, www.speedtest.net and www.pingtest.net post results : Sothebys
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      pingtest.net results: http://www.pingtest.net/result/4858060.png >> this one is the recommended server (... : hanged_man
      • traceroute the server, if the bad hops are off the isps network there;s little to nothing they can do abo... : Dravenport
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    Is there anything other than the spikes (broadcasting for new networks when using a wireless card) in Vis... : guyver-za
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      Not really, the WLAN pinging every 60 seconds was furious enough for me to go searching back when I was h... : Sothebys
      • Forgot link: (Not sure if you had this fix) http://www.martin-majowski.de/wlanoptimizer/ : Sothebys
      • I sorted that problem out using Vista Antilag a while ago so that is all good. My ping seems to be fine a... : guyver-za
  • wired and not wireless and im running on windows 7 : hanged_man
• do you know the server's hostname or IP? Try running a traceroute and see where your ping starts to spik... : giant boy detective
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  That's because most people who whine about slow internet don't know wtf they are talking about. Maybe you... : ruckboos
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    If this was facebook I would click "like" so hard right now. : giant boy detective
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      This isn't facebook so kill yourself instead. : Phil
      • Haxim likes this. : Haxim
      • Oh Phil, you silly goose. : giant boy detective
      • * L O L ' D * : rosewood
      • good DAY to you, sah! i say, that accident hasn't slowed you down a whit, old bird! : yacoub35
      • Oh man if this was facebook I would reply to this and say something clever like "omg LoL" : hussdelrio
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    My biggest pet peeve is people who call latency, frame rate. I don't expect them to be aware of more min... : Wombat Woo
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      yeah, when did lag become framerate issues? i see that a lot and i think it's silly. : cpt_gloval
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        Well lag means something is slowed it does specifically mean latency. : Chod
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          Lag and frame rate used to be thought of as separate events and now people are combining them. This chan... : giant boy detective
          • I've always thought of "lag" as a colloquial term for network latency. the word latency itself is a very ... : ruckboos
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            The confusion really took off back when counterstrike started to take over the first person shooter scene... : Wombat Woo
            • This is true. That was also around the time Valve started using a combined latency score based on frame ... : giant boy detective
        • dropping frames is a different phenomenon though, there's no delay anywhere, it just drops frames. : cpt_gloval
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    Oooh, someone works in support!! : Phreakin
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      I used to, for comcast. I'll grant you that the company were major fuckups though. I feel sorry for you g... : ruckboos
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        hahah. i remember calling comcast support and being all 'blah blah MAC address blah blah DHCP lease blah ... : xsoulbrothax
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          There are always at least three idiots hired for every knowledgeable person in internet tech support. : giant boy detective
          • It's just like the staff at best buy: anyone who knows what they are talking about moves on to better thi... : ruckboos
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          whenever i called comcast i had to lie "no of course i don't have a router hooked up what am i crazy?" /h... : cpt_gloval
          • oh yeah - that was helping out my dad's gf. she had no router (against my recommendation). every time i w... : xsoulbrothax
  • no shit eh. don't expect any support if you're complaining about latency from a wireless connection. : gokart.
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    im not a 10 year old kid, i did everything you can imagine (except for the tracerts) and nothing has help... : hanged_man
    • The tracert is a very important part because it tells you whether the problem is on the ISP's network or ... : ruckboos
    • Have you considered that you have may have become desynchronized to the current flow of time? : DarkWolf5
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      you tried everything *but* the tracerts? that's the first thing you do after rebooting :/ : bamb
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        After? I usually do it before. : Arcanum
        • Exactly, because if it clearly shows that the problem is happening further on rebooting is pointless. : Conan
      • This is a good point. A simple ping is useless as far as I'm concerned since it doesn't account for anyth... : ruckboos
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      So you did everything but the important shit? Good job. Please, call your ISP again. : rosewood
      • Hello my nettunes is broken and I have eWorms. : dmason
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      tracert ip.ad.ddr.ess ping -c 1000 ip.ad.ddr.ess if a particular hop is dying / has high ping / pac... : anhero
      • pathping IP should give you a decent amount of information about packetloss at each hop. : giant boy detective
  • lol windows tracert : Halen
• do a tracert in command prompt to whatever server you're having issues with. I was having issues w/ my I... : goatjc
• ping tests, speed tests, couple treacerts will find the problem. : ghost hacker
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  DSL? After a lightning strike, my DSL was screwed for the same reason. Even when I replaced the modem. I... : ShadowRam
  • taking them out and throwing them away forced the phone company to replace them when they eventually foun... : ShadowRam
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  IDKWTF. I ran pingtest and it's 13ms! What?! I've never gotten below 80ms in an online game. How does tha... : Albemuth
  • Do a ping test to a server on the opposite side of the continent. : Arcanum
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    It depends on the location of the game server and how many routers are between your location and that ser... : giant boy detective
    • That must be it. : Albemuth
• duh: http://www.i-tech.com.au/products/17512_Bigfoot_Networks_Killer_K1_Gaming.aspx : sparkly
• Sounds like you might benefit from overclocking that NIC. I have experience with this sort of thing. http... : H@rvester
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  just did a visual tracert using a software called VisualRoute and it seems like my ISP gets internet from... : hanged_man
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    sounds like a routing issue. if the router directly between you and your destination are unreachable, a t... : gokart.
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      Call center reps are very undertrained. I know, I work for one. Best thing to do is to immediately ask ... : Anastomosis
      • meant for OP : Anastomosis
    • it may be a conscious peering choice and that particular peer is just having issues today : anhero
• I remember when quake came out and it patched in sep 96 so the tcp/ip would work I called up my isp to co... : shotgun1
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  If you installed any win7 specific NIC drivers, uninstall them and use the stock ones. I've seen & subseq... : jingletard
  • funny, i had the opposite problem/solution. even the update manufacturers drivers for my wireless NIC (Gi... : gokart.
• You should reinstall your OS just to be sure I've actually been told to do that by the clueless idiots : Rag and Bone Man
• Do you ever use VPN? I have a really nice fiber connection and one time I spent about a week with really ... : dfay

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  Wonder when we'll have to pay for Hulu now. : g0nk
  • =( : mwasher
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    they already said early next year : dignan
    • what?! : yacoub35
    • For extra content, the current model won't change : glio1337
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      No, they didn't. One guy speculated that they would, that's it. No one from Hulu has said anything of the... : Vincent Grayson
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        http://news-briefs.ew.com/2009/10/22/hulu-to-start-charging-in-2010/ At an industry summit in NYC on O : Downforce
        • Hmm. That's news to me. The last thing I remember was some douche saying they should charge, but he wasn'... : Vincent Grayson
        • thanks, i couldn't find it so I ducked and ran for cover : dignan
        • http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2009/10/28/will-hulu-stop-being-free-in-a-word-no/ That follow-up made ... : Marlin
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    i keep getting the Folger's commercial on Hulu. Is that because I voted it Thumbs Up? : yacoub35
    • all I ever get is Yaz and STD commercials : fathertime
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  Whoa. : dognose
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    Mr. Reeves, can i get an autograph? : Demius
    • no : dognose
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  Not yet, but its looking like the deal is going to go through. GE reached a deal to buy out Vivendi's 20%... : theangrywaffles
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    you mean other than when they announced last month they were going to a pay system : Deathlove
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      They didn't announce anything officially yet, as OverloadUT aptly pointed out in a much earlier thread. W... : theangrywaffles
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        As a Comcast customer, I look forward to free Hulu. : Deathlove
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          are you new to Comcast? Your post is funny. : K1Bond007
          • Seven years and never been happier! Note: I don't use their DVRs. : Deathlove
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          You'll eventually get access to OnDemand Online, as early as this spring if Comcast is your Internet prov... : theangrywaffles
          • Ihttp://news.cnet.com/8301-17939_109-10169684-2.html : theangrywaffles
          • Too bad their on demand services suck, and are horribly over priced. : Ormsbee
  • They should expand Hulu and integrate streaming service into their DVR sets. : MagicWishMonkey
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  :o What will this mean for 30 Rock??? : Whistler77
  • I am halfway through season 1 and I am not sure I care! :P : mwasher
• Where does this fall in the Sheinhardt org chart? : rosewood
• Are there any comcast employees here? I'm interested in what they're thinking : whereiwannab
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  ElitistSnobSubthread: Comcast is terrible. DirecTV all the way. : xylothan
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    No thanks, I like TV that works when it rains. : Adm.Snackbar
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      Do people still think that's the norm? I've had DTV starting back around like '97 to late 2000 before : xylothan
      • Yeah, had a hurricane pass by up in Mass and it never went out. : noodleboy723
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        Also in Seattle, had DirecTV while I was at school at UW( 2004 - 2007). TV conked out every time the rain... : Adm.Snackbar
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          This is an installation problem. If you have a good signal, it takes extreme weather to knock it out. : cltcprd
          • It probably was. However, since directv are the ones that installed the dish, this doesn't really help th... : Adm.Snackbar
          • Extreme weather is annual for me, I ditched DTV for this reason. : Endymion_
      • Yes, since the last few times I've been around DTV, it's gone out when it rained. : Jumperus
• here's the full deal scope. lots of players. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/02/business/global/02viven... : Downforce
• Net Neutrality ... ftw? : aldraek
• This is such terrible news. There's a campaign to stop the merger here: http://freepress.net/comcast : datoo
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  How the hell is Comcast able to buy one of the big three networks? : NFXFSX
  • actually NBC has been in 4th for a while : kevp
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    That's a good question; hopefully there will actually be some regulatory opposition to this happening, in... : the archvile
    • Should probably leave that to the states. . .Oh who am I kidding? : aldraek
    • They took like a year and a half to approve siriusxm : chrisschutz
• Not that big o a suprise, GEs been looking to dump em for a while now. : bombay