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• Maybe. : CrustaR
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  I liked the first Serious Sam better. : zebosausamite
  • How dare you. : lolpatrol
  • Haha. Second Encounter was far superior, but Serious Sam 2 was the worst of the three. : dmason
• It's definitely a contender : Mr. Goodwrench
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  easily the best narrative in a game. they might not have done the voice recorders as a story and plot de... : dextius
  • err might not have been the first to do voice recorders... : dextius
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    I don't think the narrative is particularly strong in SS2. The environment and sound design are phenomen... : ZTac
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      Your song is not ours. : lolpatrol
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        iawtp x 100000 : dextius
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          Sorry! Moving through the ship was an amazing experience, but the impetus to do so and the supporting ch... : ZTac
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            did you play bioshock? if so, did you feel the same way about it? : Xanthos
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              Roughly. I thought the setting of Bioshock was stronger than the writing, but I appreciated a few of the : ZTac
              • I really need to finish Bioshock :( : tomservo
      • Little ones needs lots of love and caring. : Flakmanz
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  No game has ever instilled a sense of genuine dread in me like System Shock 2 did. It is easily the most ... : tomservo
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    The scariest part of the game is probably how you always had juuuust below enough ammo + hypos needed to ... : Orange Pylon
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      Yes! I often complain about how the guns deteriorate so rapidly, but that was also one of the main things... : tomservo
      • The ammo thing only work during the first half of the game however. It's quickly not a problem because of... : Patakreps
  • me too, i remember playing it for the first time with 3 of my friends, late at night with the curtains dr... : disembodied potato
  • I just remember running out of ammo and accidentally setting off the alarm, then fending off tons of enem... : DHAvatar
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    Did you not play Thief or Thief 2? : Lone Swordsman
    • Both. Those games were tense and highly memorable, but not like System Shock 2. : tomservo
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    This is probably my favorite thing about the game. There is so much to love, but constantly being on edge... : Xanthos
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      Yeah. In fact, the audio logs were amazing to me for a few reasons. Voice acting was only starting to be : tomservo
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        yeah i couldn't agree more. the audio logs went a really long way for me towards unifying the whole envir... : Xanthos
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          The audio logs in SS2 also had another wonderful effect. You know how people think the movie Se7en is dis : tomservo
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            I remember every time I found a new area or unlocked a door I had not previously cleared through to be su... : daneloire
            • Fucking Engineering deck did that to me all the goddamn time. Especially having to wander through the ca... : Flakmanz
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    AvP marine campaign did this to me. That, and Dead Space. : Vincent Grayson
    • Oh good point, the AvP marine campaign is a fine example. So much that I have never played much of it bec... : tomservo
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    Yeah, I notice that looking back, I still consider Resident Evil 2, Silent Hill, and System Shock 2 all t... : Amnesty_intl2
    • Yeah, the "cleanness" of System Shock 2's art style always was a major contributor to the unsettling feel... : tomservo
  • I agree with AvP Marine being scarier, I mean, it is the only game to-date that made me scream like a lit... : Mad Brahmin Disease
• gonna have to agree with you on that one. : Fredrik S
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  I disagree. : Sexpansion Pack
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    I would take Deus Ex over SS2, for an example of one game in the same genre that's better. : Sexpansion Pack
    • ^^ QFT : Anir
    • I fully agree with this. I am also probably biased. : tomservo
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      Yeah, if I had to pick one of the two, I'd pick Deus Ex. They're a bit different, though. Shock2 is much : Orange Pylon
      • Not clearly tell the player he is making a choice RIGHT NOW would be considered bad game design today! : Patakreps
      • I didn't save him my first time playing through either. :) That was a huge reason why I went back and pla : tomservo
    • NO Deus Ex is a jack of all trades, but a master of none. The combat, stealth, voice acting, and grap... : Frank_Mackey
    • They're both incredibly good; I wouldn't want to have to choose. : Conan
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      While I think deus ex does some things better, I think SS2 is superior in certain aspects that kind of ed... : wetard
      • oh yeah the whole research skill and unique items associated with that were awesome.. SHARD!!! : wetard
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  Half Life : uncle slappy
  • I agree, Half-Life 2 specifically. : zombie man
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  unfortunately the best game of all time is either Starcraft : Yanks
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    or Starcraft. : Yanks
    • Not StarCraft though. : enyakk
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  Alpha Centauri would beg to differ! : Lone Swordsman
  • Though I'm torn between that and Thief. : Lone Swordsman
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  SS 2 was too slow and cerebral for me. I can see why people think it is brilliant, but I could not get i... : digweed014
  • See I loved deus ex, but wasn't that into SS2. : Scotty22
• SS2 is the number one game that needs to be remade, followed by Deus Ex. : Gore87
• It's my favorite game of all time at least. Then Deus Ex : mrwolf710
• It's my current favorite, with Half-Life and Portal close behind. : DapperDan
• I have yet to see something more scary than those crazy robots they add actually I think I stop playing i... : Frush81
• one thing that applies to system shock 2 moreso than any game is the "ahead of its time" tag. what an am... : Downforce
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  it was amazing, though i think of lot of it was the time in which it came out. 1999 i think? we were jus... : EvilDolemite
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    It kind of blows my mind to think about how ambitious System Shock 2 really was, considering the time it ... : tomservo
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      SS2 was more modest in scope. it showed what was possible in the hybrid category but it didn't present t... : EvilDolemite
      • They definitely have. Story lines are more streamlined and the experiences are much much more scripted no... : tomservo
• Uh you mean SMB allstars for snes?! :D : AndyGoin
• I couldn't handle the stress and fear to play too much of it. : kramweil
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  I still have nightmares where im fending off screaming space monkeys with a wrench because of that game. : thewindcriesmary
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    I'll never forget my first SS2 monkey encounter. I was actually, for a brief moment, overjoyed to see som... : tomservo
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      hahaha - I did the same thing. I was like -- aww cute, it's a little monkey... then it started screaming... : dedgecko
      • Yeah. Now as a result, every time I see a monkey I panic :( : tomservo
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  I'd have to agree with SS2. First time Xerxes was talking just blew my mind. Still is one of the mos... : scernos
  • I love how disconnected Xerxes's voice sounds. And oh god I have been fighting a recent surfacing of a... : tomservo
• Yea, Serious Sam 2 was great. : wwonderboy334
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  nothing can compete with Myst : Cheeziologist
  • for being ridiculously obtuse? sure I'll agree with that. : deject
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  None of you have played System Shock 1, have you. Not a single mention of it in this thread: disgracefu... : rms
  • Man I played the shit out of SS1, and it was totally awesome, but not such a full, well-rounded experienc... : daneloire
  • Press alt+w to LEAN FORWARD! I always remember getting the Elevator to go up to the third floor. Then the : AxeMan808
  • of course I played it you silly bunt. SS2 just improves on the first one is every conceivable way, theref... : Fredrik S
  • I tried playing SS1 after I played SS2 but the controls were so bad I just couldn't do it. : datoo
  • it's rough around the edges and was dated even when SS2 was released. i've tried twice to go back and pl... : EvilDolemite
  • Motion sickness :( : Rag and Bone Man
• Best games? 1. Half Life Series 2. Civilization Series 3. Lucasarts Original Adventure Games (up to ... : manlyman
• AGREED. : Sgt_Boomstick
• Deus Ex : qwplayer
• SC2? Absolutely. : icon_of_syn
• I couldn't ever get into it. Super Mario World was better. : CyCo_PL
• yea, I loved Samurai Showdown 2, best game of all time, maybe : Finchypoo
• definitely up there : razorblade79
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  Coop is intense. 2 players was perfect. But 3-4 was hectic if you're supply heavy and there's not much to... : Sailor of Fortune
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    fo reel. on old riggs... ss2 was xtra special with a bud. IT was the realest. : oatmb
    • we are not going to make it out of this one alive... cries... : oatmb
• Agreed - for me, it sits uneasily atop a pedestal vying for space with Fallout and Shadow of the Colossus... : T-900
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  Marathon 2 : Dschinghis Khan
  • I concur. Amazing game. : Finchypoo
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  SS2 Speed Run http://speeddemosarchive.com/SystemShock2.html Game done in 36 minutes. Very interesting... : sanchez
  • Awesome, thanks. : yobock
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  So when will Tom Ohle put a gun to the relevant person's head and get SS2 on GoG.com? : Marrbe
  • Tell me about it, I've got $10 just waiting to buy that game again. : Topsiderover
• agreed, SAMURAI SHODOWN 2 still holds up after all these years. : X-GOUKI
• It's a new release but I can easily see Dragon's Age becoming my new favourite game, I love everything ab... : Guybrushed
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  Nothing will touch Myth: The Fallen Lords. Remember when Bungie made good games? : Grumbeld
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    You mean like Halo dude? i love Halo, Dude! Dude, i'm so awesome at Halo dude! Wanna play some Halo some... : Flakmanz
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      when i re-read that post, i couldn't help be imagine a Prinny speaking it... : Flakmanz
      • dooood! : Topsiderover
• I don't understand why this thread is so long. It should have been locked and preserved after the OP mad... : Kaiser

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• very cool : Degenerate
• This is a good read thanks : dognose
• 1993: SiW first uses the internet and has never gone more than a few days without a connection since. : SiW.
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  Odd that they credit digg with the birth of social news. Slashdot and kuro5hin were doiing it long befor... : yonderboy
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    Well, you submitted stories to slashdot, but they still had to be approved. With digg, the stories wen't ... : malevolence
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      With a Scoop-based site (kuro5hin), the articles were sent to a submission queue where they were voted on... : yonderboy
      • Yeah, I sort of remember that but never really used Kuro5hin so I couldn't really comment on that. : malevolence
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    I would consider digg a far more mainstream and accessible social network than slashdot. : riptyde
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      arpanet was neither mainstream nor accessible, yet it was rightly shown as the birth of the internet, why... : Herman Toothrot
      • while slashdot may have been among the first sites of its kind, it really wasn't anything like digg. it ... : mikecyb
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    I think slashdot nerded itself out of the running a while back. I can't think of a single non-techie who ... : edgewise
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      isn't it the point of the article, though, to clue non-techies in on the things that started what they're... : Herman Toothrot
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        good point. maybe the guy just hates CmdrTaco : edgewise
        • It's a woman who has been a "web professional" for six years. That explains that nicely. : SiW.
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    Fark too. Anyone remember fark? : deathofrats
    • of course, but I wouldn't call it social news so much as just bizarre stories from all over. : edgewise
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    Metafilter is much closer to a digg-style thing. And came out in 1999. : SiW.
    • Well, digg's big contribution was the whole digging thing, so there's that. : SiW.
• Awesome History! : cjcharv
• my first exposure to the web was in 1995. prior to that it was all BBS's from about 1993. : EvilDolemite
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  No Prodigy, Compuserve or Quantum Link? Those were all very strong precursors to AOL. : stonedonkey
  • I had Prodigy. One of the games was this huge dungeon maze thing that I don't think I ever managed to co... : riptyde
  • Compuserve definitely deserves an addition. They had Friend Codes way before Nintendo. : SiW.
  • I had compuserve. : Iwannaacura
• It doesn't go out to 2018 : Omaha
• Blah, I think I got online last 94, and I fucking hated Mosaic. I was glad to use Netscape. My ISP bundle... : vov1n
• Wow I remember using that Hotmail interface. Nice article. : Barnahog
• how could they overlook the first porn site : inf3d3l
• "It began when Michael Hart ... came to the realization that the future of computers wasn’t in com : OverloadUT
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  Very, very cool. I just showed this to Vint Cerf. :D : virus
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    (he sits 4 doors down from me :D) : virus
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      he came and spoke at UMD a couple of months ago. cool dude. : eeeealmo
      • Very, very cool guy. Really nice. : virus
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      What did he think? : CrustaR
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        He sent me this link: http://www.isoc.org/internet/history/brief.shtml :D : virus
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          Chief Internet Evangelist at Google. o_O : Downforce
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            if the internet goes down, somebody's gotta fix it, and that somebody is vint cerf : electroly
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              chuck norris would make it faster and safer. : j0nchan
              • you're alive right now only because vint cerf didn't hear that : electroly
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          haha that's like saying "Thanks for the shitty internet blog version of a serious paper I authored" : slickdoody
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            Exactly. I told him "wow, what you sent me was way better than what I sent you, sorry about that" an... : virus
            • Also, I think he's the architect from the Matrix: http://www.davidlouisedelman.com/wp-content/uploads/... : virus
            • hahaha nice : slickdoody
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    he seems like he would be incredibly interesting to talk to : Herman Toothrot
    • He is. And he is super nice and very cool. Extraordinarily intelligent. : virus
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  I can't fucking believe YouTube is only 5 years old. : OverloadUT
  • I can't believe it's already 5 years old. : DOOManiac
• nice read... thanks for the link : Shadowdane
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  the worlds first webcam was used to monitor caffeine availability in the lab. that is just perfect. and... : smacknca
  • yeah, i thought that was really cool : sikander
  • and then of course the pot was forever empty since nobody was willing to get up and brew a new batch : riptyde
• Reading this and imagining the progress curve vs. time that these events sit on boggles the mind : indosauros
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  Wow, I didn't realize Wikipedia was that old. Same with Myspace. : NFXFSX
  • i didn't realize they were that YOUNG, 2000 still seems like yesterday almost : Herman Toothrot
• is it just me or does the pic showing the 1977 pc modem dude look like jon heder from napoleon dynamite? : Jikim
• Great link, thank you. : r_picmip 5
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  I remember watching the coffee webcam, lol : ColoradoCNC
  • When it went on the web, that is : ColoradoCNC
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  First ISP before first web page? Surprising. : Geoffrois
  • well how else were you supposed to access your email? or usenet, ftp,or even gopher! : nyranger66
  • what's surprising about that, exactly? the web is only part of the wider internet : Herman Toothrot
  • There were many. I had a private one called OpenMind (run by the now defunct DCA corp). : InfoBiter
• that very first webcam needs to be used WAY more :D : Downforce
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  Cool, IRC was invented a year before I was born, it's been a huge inspiration to me because of the people... : Amnesty_intl2
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    How can you have your age be 'OLD' if you were born in 1989. This does not compute. : Frozen Pixel
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      no shit, i'm older than that and i'm not old yet, this guy needs to get some perspective! : Herman Toothrot
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        I remember being excited when I dad brought home the 1200bps modem!! : m0rfus
        • i remember my brother telling me there was "a new game even better than wolfenstein" and i didn't believe... : Herman Toothrot
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  wtf no mention of Doom? : Frush81
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    No mention of Kali is the part that bothers me. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali The first IPX (Li... : Amnesty_intl2
    • Thank goodness for those protocol converting hindu gods. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_%28software : anhero
• Thank you for showing how old I am. : m0rfus
• "One of the more interesting developments of this era, though, was the first webcam. It was deployed at a... : DOOManiac
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  $19.95 per month AOL should have been mentioned, I think that was a real boom in internet usage. : RyDogg1
  • They kinda hint at it here: AOL, still in existence today, later on made the Internet popular amongst the : emcea
• i was expecting a book written in nano print on the inside of a nut shell. :( : CoRDS

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  so glad I didn't buy this game. : aethyr
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    so glad i got it on ps3, (well i didnt have a choice my cpu is doo doo) : oldschoolbob-o
    • I should have said "buy this game for the PC", but I don't have a 360 or PS3 so my options are limited. : aethyr
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  That actually looks kind of hilarious. : DinK
  • Yeah, and if it were like CoD4, people who wanted to play that way could, and people who didn't, wouldn't... : Vincent Grayson
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    Seconded. I would play that mode. (maybe for 5 minutes) : SnakeIRye
    • I've had some damn fun times playing on servers where we've changed the settings to something wacky, even... : DinK
  • yeah, I had to lol at that. I don't know why, maybe it was a combination of the music and the people hopp... : gibolas1234
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  Might be more of a double backfire, actually. The bean counters will simply look at the console vs. PC sa... : Attica Blue
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    assuming that wasn't their plan all along... : yacoub35
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      there are far better ways to stop making PC games than this. this hurts the company's reputation way more... : dahanese
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        making millions of dollars hurts their rep more? interesting. : yacoub35
        • no but if these videos get more exposure and IW doesn't fix this, that hurts their rep. : FrayLo
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          money has very little to do with reputation. especially in this case. : dahanese
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            and apparently (to date) they care more about _/$\_ (poorly-drawn moneyhats) than rep. : yacoub35
            • well, first, i just want to reiterate they probably don't have a diabolical plan of stopping PC manufactu... : dahanese
    • Yup. The "hack" was simply editing a .ini file to say "AllowAwesomeTimeFunLand=true", then they leaked i... : zebosausamite
  • Who wants to play a game in the first place if it's going to be this jacked up? : WhatIsThisFor
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    i don't think this is an issue at all. i imagine people would (read: i would, obviously i can't speak for... : brainchild420
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      True. I'm just saying that if enough people hack so as to make the MP experience crappy for other players... : Attica Blue
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        they basically put a shelf life on the PC MP by not having mods/custom maps. now they will have people ch... : brainchild420
        • Wrong. They will offering DLC in every 3 -4 months. This is going to be a cash cow because people will ea... : Sgt_Boomstick
  • I'm not so sure. If the cost to port/develop and support the PC version was/is less than what they've ear... : Nitrium
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    I really hope the next generation of consoles supports mouse and keyboard. The death of PC gaming would ... : twifosp
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      I don't know if we're going to see that. I think it would be hell to develop for multiple types of contro... : Nitrium
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        How so? I am no game developer but I struggle to see how it would be hard to code for a mouse and keyboa... : twifosp
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          I think the one point of contention that can be brought up, is that an experienced keyboard and mouse pla... : Entity
          • And I am completely ok with that. Why hinder the experience for everyone because the standard is a game ... : twifosp
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          Well, I'm not considering the programming factor, the the general layout, gameplay and UI factors. Imagin... : Nitrium
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            While that might be true, it can't represent that much of development resources. I refuse to believe... : twifosp
            • I'm not saying it's the best, I'm just saying it easier to support one kind of input and have all your cl... : Nitrium
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      The current consoles both support mouse and keyboard. No developer ever uses them though, with the except... : Entity
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        I haven't personally tried the mouse and keyboard for the 360, but I have watched a video of it. The gam... : twifosp
        • The port of UT3 to the PS3 had mouse & keyboard controls and it didn't suffer from the problems you menti... : sevogajre
        • I tried the m+kb set up for the original xbox and it still sucked. : dkrulz
    • Or just make fucking controllers with a trackball in place of a right stick. Though I'd gladly get a n... : DinK
    • the ps2 and ps3 both support mouse/keyboard, i tried it once on the ps2 with i think it was red faction 2... : Herman Toothrot
    • "I couldn't imagine trying to play games like HoN, or any RTS, or Civ game with a controller. " You wo... : Freon
    • They'll support wiimote-like pointers. As close as you're going to get. : Cihte
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    It'll be a cost benefit analysis to be sure. If their sales numbers are generating a profit on PC sales, ... : ieGod
    • I know I hadn't even considered buying the game until I saw for sure there was a way to 'hack' the FOV. ... : InfoBiter
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    Is this a bad thing? I don't think this is such a bad thing after all? There are clearly companies on the... : MercFox1
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      I wouldn't lump DICE into that group - they've moved on to the consoles, but they are finally bringing st... : dedgecko
      • Needs more Midtown Madness 3 for pc :( : roushimsx
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        Well, I had such a blast with Mirror's Edge (and don't forget the long-awaited BF2 1.5 patch, and BF1943.... : MercFox1
        • Forgot about ME, I still need to finish that... : dedgecko
  • Good. If this is the way they treat the pc gaming community we are better off without them. : AgentPothead
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    Sounds good. PC is still a profitable market. If a dev who charges more for less wants out of it, so be... : tree8
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      They'll be flowing from PC gamers if the next Call of Duty game is on PS3 and Xbox 360 but not PC. As sel... : Chris Remo
      • I think there will be less tears from the people that have now played MW:2 on PC. But I guess we can onl... : tree8
  • This is the most logical path. I can easily see Treyarch's COD 7 next year simply not being on PC. : Sgt_Boomstick
  • bye to them. if they want to shovel console shit out to the pc market, i won't miss them : harold.johnson
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  This really isn't going to help the "release PC games that give us as much control as older PC games did"... : Omaha
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    Its more of an example of what happens when you force console infrastructure onto an open platform. Yo... : Beady
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      you honestly think they wouldnt have abused this even more if it was on a dedicated server basis? : maulla
      • It would be abused but you would know not to go back to that server again if it isn't your thing. This w... : melkore
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        At least with dedicated servers the players who want to play like that can choose to while the players wh... : Beady
        • I wish Infinity ward would have used dedicated server but done it through an open server browser, so matc : stgdz
        • And then your account gets banned because you played on a game like that and have to spend time talking t... : Scotty22
  • no, because they (lazily, yeah i said it) just turned off the console access instead of actually locking ... : brainchild420
  • Looks like they don't have to. Modding communities will just do it anyhow. : melkore
• hahahah that loooks awesome! : dedgecko
• more like modern BOREfare : boring gegtik
• XP amounts per kill hacks? ok now I'm going to get it : Downforce
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  It was reminiscent of some of the old Tribes 2 server mods. : Fyunch Click
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    Yea, I was gonna say it reminds me of the Ultra Mod in tribes 1. : dedgecko
    • thank you I couldn't remember the name of that mod. I remember the first time I played that: the mortar o... : Fyunch Click
• this is probably the first game ever where everyone is glad to see it hacked. I hope John Carmack is taki... : thebigbeefsandwich
• Hahah, what a mess. : WhatIsThisFor
• I ran into my first cheater yesterday. Round started, he got 25 straight in about 2 minutes and then nuk... : Edges
• The scream of the AC-130 in that video just made it so much more intense. : givemesnacks
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  You can't wait for more of this crap? This is ultimately hurting the players and the industry man. : pun][sher
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    Did you miss the lesson about Sarcasm? : Beady
    • I read it as "Take this for trying something different IW!" : pun][sher
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  based on what the developers have said about their reasons for removing dedicated servers, this must be t... : Herman Toothrot
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    You mean its balanced for infinite AC-130 spam! : Beady
    • yes : Herman Toothrot
    • that loosk so awesome : Iwannaacura
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    This game was meant to be hacked. : WhatIsThisFor
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      This is genius. Tomorrow's battlefield is all about hacking and electronic espionage. IW put that in th... : twifosp
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        IW itself being an anagram for Information Warfare. : Omaha
        • anagram acronym : Omaha
• That's awesome. : ColoradoCNC
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  This is fucking pathetic. I am ashamed to have bought the PC version of this game now. Not because of IWN... : Sothebys
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    for sure this sucks, but they should fix it, right? : FrayLo
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      They would have to fix it every couple weeks then. : WhatIsThisFor
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        okay, forgive my ignorance, but why is that? does having a dedicated server mean they wouldn't have to f... : FrayLo
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          If you know a few servers that are legit and enjoy the settings on those servers you do not have to worry... : TreMetal
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            okay , what about hax? if someone has an aimbot or some other hack, couldn't they just join whatever ser... : FrayLo
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              I fail to see what that has to do with dedicated servers. : TreMetal
              • i thought the whole thing was "if we had dedicated servers this wouldn't be a problem"? : FrayLo
            • Yes but then the server admin could just perm ban them and that's the end of it. : Sothebys
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              the point of dedicated servers is that they create mini communities around them. you find some good ones ... : brainchild420
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                more to the point, that hacker would already be banned from the server you play on, so new hax wouldn't h... : brainchild420
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                  So, a hacker couldn't grab a new IP or ID? : Fred Garvin
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                    He'd have to buy a new copy of the game. They ban by game key. : LoioshDwaggie
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                      or just use his key-generator which he probably used from the get go. : dedgecko
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                        except that you can't log in to multiplayer servers that check your cd key with a key generator... : brainchild420
                        • (unless the game is made by gearbox) : brainchild420
                        • unless it's a valid key. How many thousands of keys are still sitting in unopened retail packages? : dedgecko
                      • The company has a list of sold keys (given to them by the publisher and given to them by whomever is hand... : LoioshDwaggie
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                that last point is exactly what IW says a lot of people do (based on their user feedback and focus groups... : derelict515
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                  well, IW is wrong, or everyone that ever played CS/TF/CoD is wrong. hrmm... : brainchild420
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                    well when you have data on how many of those players exclusively use favorite servers let me know. Meanwh... : derelict515
                    • theyre also wagering on millions of dollars of dlc : Chandler55
                    • tens of millions of dollars they'll recoup from a single map-pack. : Cihte
                  • Your personal experience can actually be trumped by massive amounts of user data. :/ : ieGod
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                  I noticed that no one has replied to BC's one good point about how this was in WaW (both systems). Why wo... : LoioshDwaggie
                  • Because most of us avoid Treyarch titles for a reason. : dedgecko
                  • I'd also like to add that, once again, Valve attempted the same solution and realized it was wrong for th : LoioshDwaggie
                • i still don't understand why they can't combine matchmaking and dedicated servers, in a thread a few days... : Herman Toothrot
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                I see your point, but whenever I (sporadically) play TF2, I pretty much do find a new server to play on e... : sevogajre
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                  yeah right liar. No PC gamer would ever do this! : derelict515
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                    These kinds of posts are not helping your reputation. : LoioshDwaggie
                    • I don't really care how I'm perceived by the irrational. The post I just made is nothing more than what o... : derelict515
                • Yea, Medster and I are in the same boat. Back in the CoD4 days, we'd have to hop from server to server l... : dedgecko
            • In PC C/S games, you don't trust the client...ever. : jake
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    Why would you play with strangers in Borderlands? That game is made for loot ninja-ing. : Dynotaku
    • I didn't in Borderlands, but in this game you really can't control that like you could in Borderlands. Th... : Sothebys
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    Like the game wouldn't have been hacked anyways. People are always cheating. : Edges
    • Cheating locally doesn't typically globally affect other players. Yes you can wallhack, yes you can aimbo... : Sothebys
  • people are going to be dickbags, which is exactly why PC developers a loooong time ago decided that dedic... : gokart.
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    You new to the PC platform then? : Loofus
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      no, but IW appears to be. : brainchild420
      • This is quite true. Still, this kind of thing is not only expected on the PC platform, it's encouraged. : Loofus
  • People mod every game ever made that is at all possible to mod. It has nothing to do with "proving a poin... : OverloadUT
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    what makes you think they're "proving a point"? what point is being proven by the existence of aimbots i... : electroly
    • The whole movie is produced in a way to prove a point about 'IW lying about why dedicated servers aren't ... : Sothebys
  • I think this video is awesome and you need to stop being such an IW fanboy. : CyCo_PL
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  lol at this and at bamii who's still waiting for his key + being ignored by customer service lololololol : [7]kami
  • :( : Bamii
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  hahaha, when the AC130 came in I started cracking up : megarust32
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    I would play this mode as a break every once in a while. Looks fun. : midgetherder
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      They need to make that an official mode called "Last Retard Standing". : Amnesty_intl2
      • I can only imagine the comedy that would ensue from being so politically incorrect. Though I love the ide... : notdeadyeti
  • I loved how the guy tried his best to jump toward it : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Hilarious. Watching the back and forth from this Dedicated Server Debacle play out is damned entertainin... : SigmaDraconis
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    Sorry.. what back and forth? I haven't seen anyone arguing AMAGAD I"M SO GLAD THERES NO DEDICATED SERVER... : mlev
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      Not quite the arguments. I meant the responses to Infinity Ward's decision on it. I'm enjoying the tena... : SigmaDraconis
      • It's going to get better if people are going to get steam banned over this. : ghost in my shell
    • No one has. There were two camps in those debates: people who were verbally upset at IW, and those who... : walker270
• How long before this video gets taken down? the one of aimbot got taken down ASAP. Also, do you thi... : mlev
• Shit just got real. : prime8
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  They better release a serious patch to clean up this mess. : headbone
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    IW doesn't give a shit about the PC release. If you get a patch, it'll be to add DLC and nothing else. : Rehevkor
    • PC got a patch already, we got diff game mode added. : Iwannaacura
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    Unless the patch includes dedicated servers that can be privately admined it will never be fixed. : Dynotaku
    • cry me a fucking river. there are TONS of people who are legitimately enjoying the PC version as is. : grifter
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    "Or else"? They already have your money. The only reason IW would release a patch is if there is some ... : Mantle
    • That's ridiculous. They've already patched it once since release. And Call of Duty 4 has sold on the PC f... : Chris Remo
    • i'm going to bet they patch it regularly. : dahanese
    • But the whole point of IW.NET is to entice gamers with DLC. Why would anyone want to purchase DLC on a s... : dedgecko
    • I for one will happily buy this game if they patch in dedicated servers. I loved COD4. I bet there are ... : mathyou
    • they have xmas coming up. so they better patch it. : chilln
    • B O R D E R L A N D S ' D : MeestaNob
• that needs to be on the official playlist : egg5hen
• lol @ video : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Are you saying that if they had a traditional server browser this wouldn't have happened? : Fred Garvin
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    It sure as hell wouldn't be happening on my server. Which is the point you keep missing. : LoioshDwaggie
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      That's fine, but how many Shackers run servers? : Fred Garvin
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        Quite a few of us, including me. We have more than enough server power to keep shackers playing on sha... : re-verse
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          We have enough that most of us never play a game without being on a shack server. We have this across the... : LoioshDwaggie
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            That said - most/all of the shack servers are located in the midwest / south which bode ill for us spanni... : dedgecko
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              Does shackwest still exist? : re-verse
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                Yes, but only at Tuesday nights starting 8pm PST. : Alco23
                • Nevermind my mis-reply... : Alco23
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        I was seriously considering ponying up for a CoD6 server before the new hit. : Dynotaku
        • As was I :/ : Arctic Fox
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        We were gonna replace Day of Defeat: Source night with CoD4:2 night with a shack dedicated server. : Dschinghis Khan
        • SERVER PRE-ORDER CANCELED! Actually it was the other way around lol... : Alco23
        • holy shit this makes me mad now : Chandler55
        • Really? God damn, wow. : MercFox1
      • See shackwiki for shack servers and people who run them: http://shackwiki.com/wiki/Shackbattles/ I wa... : Alco23
• total design fail : ]pm[chem
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  What a cluster. How can anyone have any fun playing like this (assuming you did the stuff in the video)? : silent77
  • Admin running the server would stop it :3 : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Jesus Christ. I really have no interest in this game but based on all the arguments AGAINST it, I want t... : Moonbase Commander
  • Good luck - the game is a blast. : dedgecko
  • Use Amazon, they have a $10 gift card promo still I think and the game registers on Steam regardless : veras
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  Fucking lame. The people this is going to harm with its "backfiring" are the people who actually own this... : Chris Remo
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    look on the bright side, if it leads to VAC bans it'll be pretty much the funniest thing ever : veras
    • yeah I'm kinda surprised the bans haven't started yet. This will be pretty funny. : .frame
    • Omg yes if vac bans are coming this will be awesome. : re-verse
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      Wont help, the pirated copies of the game work fine online. Cant really ban those. : Beady
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        Pirates are playing through steam on the IW servers? : Bhaalspahn
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          Steams not really involved afaik other than for drm, they are just connecting directly to the IW servers ... : Beady
          • That's hilarious, they must have known this was going to happen. : Bhaalspahn
          • That is insane. : project13
    • it won't. it will go unpatched for a long time. : Downforce
    • Is this actually detectable? : Bamii
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    That, and anyone who would want to play future installments of the series on the PC. If the PC Community... : walker270
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      I agree. I fully support people expressing their frustration with a lack of dedicated servers--I also am ... : Chris Remo
      • The issue is that if the PC version gets terrible sales due to boycots (unlikely I admit) then why would ... : Dynotaku
      • I wonder what Crytek thinks of all this. And overall, hopefully people BOUGHT the game to then complain a... : Downforce
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      There would have been less "issues" if they locked down the console properly and/or allowed dedicated ser... : melkore
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        I think everyone agrees they should have better considered their attitude to the platform. But the commun... : Chris Remo
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          True, in the end it will hurt the PC community which is too bad. On one hand PC gamers might get snubbed... : melkore
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            Activision is welcome to dig their PC grave. I'll still be singing the praises of Valve, Blizzard, BioWar... : LoioshDwaggie
            • Same here. As long as they keep putting out great games I will keep buying them on PC first. : melkore
        • This would happen regardless of the community backlash on feature set or not. The problem is that the fe... : malloc
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          the internet is full of raging assholes, and releasing a game unprotected against them gets your game AID... : ]pm[chem
          • this is the problem, there's currently no way to deal with the assholes except by quitting the game : Herman Toothrot
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      I'm glad people have exploited the system so soon. Attempting to lock it down to prevent this sort of thi... : pyide
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        But D2 uses p2p to host the games and Bnet in it's current incarnation is a pretty terrible example of a ... : derelict515
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          Are you sure about that? Everything I've read indicates Blizzard started running the online games on thei... : pyide
          • Blizzard maintains the Diablo 2 characters on their own servers, but the games themselves are (or were?) ... : walker270
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          Battle.net is client/server for D2 it isn't p2p. : Chod
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            The definition of "P2P" has changed to "non-dedicated server" with this round of ModWar 2 bitching. At... : walker270
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              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battlenet#Diablo_II Diablo II was released in 2000 to much fanfare. The m : pyide
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                misreply, I didn't intend this for yet another stupid listen server / semantics sub-sub thread. So an... : pyide
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                  For Closed Battle.Net Blizzard has always hosted the games. This is easy enough to discover because you c... : Chod
                  • I can't remember if this was true for the initial release of Diablo 2's battle.net. IIRC, the initia... : walker270
                  • that doesn't really prove anything. Bnet could simply have the hardware necessary to run an empty D2 game... : derelict515
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                  This isn't really a semantics sub-thread -- people are claiming ModWar 2 uses P2P, and then cite the know... : walker270
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                    I wasn't saying that. I was saying a large part of the problem was because they have the users hosting th... : pyide
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                      I don't care what people who have no idea what they're talking about are doing. If you're making the sta : walker270
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                        Who the hell is doing that here though? All I see is you guys arguing over the definitions themselves. : pyide
                        • This has been going on in nearly all of the ModWar 2 threads. I don't particularly care if it's been goi : walker270
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              What else would you call it? I mean, aren't all multiplayer games client/server? The question is just who... : Vincent Grayson
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                Client/server? P2P is a completely different type of thing entirely. : walker270
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                  P2P involves all the information going from peer to peer, which is exactly what's happening in MW2 though... : Vincent Grayson
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                    but it's not. One player is picked to be the server - everything goes in/out of their PC as it's arbitra... : dedgecko
                    • correction, it's not arbitrary - though sometimes it seems like it. Thankfully there's usually a host ... : dedgecko
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                    In a P2P network, every node sends all of the information directly to every other node that needs the dat : walker270
                    • are there any online games that use a true p2p architecture? It seems to me that you would not be synchr... : alexthegreat2
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        Blizzard and battle.net is a pretty bad example. Diablo 2, Starcraft and Warcraft 3 had a lot of problem... : walker270
        • I feel bad for honest players who will be hurt by this crap, but I'm extremely curious to see how IW hand... : pyide
    • My response if they say "fuck them": YES!! YES!! FUCK YOU TOO!! Despite all their hubris, Infinity War... : the archvile
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    It's a no win scenario. If PC gamers had just taken it, they would've said "See we were right." : tree8
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      I don't get this, because there are obviously other companies who want "PC Gamers" money and are even hol... : ghost in my shell
      • Yeah, the way DICE/EA picked up on that is one great thing in the whole mess of Activision bad :) : LoioshDwaggie
  • Remo I somewhat agree with you on this. IW pissed me off but I purchased the game because I all ready ha... : stgdz
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    If this is all true , this is probably the easiest hacks in PC gaming history and IW should be molested w... : freakynipples69
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      Maybe it's a reflection of how late in the game they decided to use IWNet for PC online. Or maybe it jus... : the archvile
      • I just blame IW for overlooking this exploit. As a developer, they should have foreseen this and prevente... : freakynipples69
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    I'd really be interested to see sales numbers of this game on all platforms after a month. If the PC get... : Tripps
    • I'd go pick up a 360 copy after class tonight myself if it weren't for the fact I invest 12 hours to get ... : freakynipples69
• Honestly, I don't even care about dedicated servers, the matchmaking sort of works well enough for what I... : Majuju
• hahahahahaha : sanchez
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  Wow someone managed to actually make that map fun : phobium
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    I cant stop laughing thinking about some hapless soul joining into that game and just rolling with it : phobium
    • I recall having that sort of thing happen in L4D several times. I'd join a server, and things would be we... : Vincent Grayson
  • lolz : burningpantsman
  • no kidding. though CTF is probably only fun mode on that map. : megarust32
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    Actually - that map is a good time when it's on HQ. Setting up shop with the mini-gun / sniping is quite... : dedgecko
    • I can't snipe for shit in this game :( : ieGod
  • is that a remake of a cod1 map? I forget the name.. ugh.. : Ziggurat
• That looks like a fun game, if that was a hint of the actual gameplay. : SilverSnake
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  Awriite, it's a Mr. Pants Excessive Overkill mod! That looks fun to play once in a while, for people who... : the archvile
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    Hell no, I love me some crazy low gravity infinite ammo madness. But with the matchmaking system IW ha... : Beady
    • Well, they'll need to fix it somehow. Still no externally-voiced signs that they've seen it, but hopeful... : the archvile
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  Is it actually p2p or is it really a listen server? No, seriously I'm actually curious. : chazums
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    From the descriptions, it's a listen server that has a "wake up and take over" mode if the client running... : the archvile
    • ^ yeah, this is how it works. : crummynz
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  Bunch of fucking cry babies, god damn it. : Techy007
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    Mmm, no, I really would rather a high-power server on a fat pipe host my game rather than some dick head ... : node
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      Which most likely wont happen. Just showing that people are going to extreme lengths and hacking the dev... : Techy007
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        Oh no, sure, but that's not the point. It's more that peer to peer did fuck all to STOP that, which was o... : node
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          http://www.fourzerotwo.com/?p=745 The biggest benefit of using IWnet by far is the fact that you donâ : the archvile
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            Sheesh, I know their intentions were good (or they at least made it sound that way) but it's the total op... : pyide
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              I don't have the game but I can't imagine it's all that bad, and if it is you stick to private matches or... : pyide
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                isn't vote kick still around? : peat
                • Not in Modern Warfare 2 from what I've read. : pyide
              • This is my problem, people who talk shit on the game without buying it. : Techy007
      • the people who actually have the iq to do this stuff probably wouldve done it regardless of the hatred fo... : Chandler55
  • Ug, it is just inevitable. There is an established way of handling this on the PC but it was removed by ... : Freon
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  one thing i can see IW doing is sitting back collecting cheaters' IDs and then just banning them all in o... : proclone1
  • there's a difference between cheating and modding here, though I realize it is a very fine line. people a... : peat
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    This isn't cheating tho. : Godhatesfatpeople
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      if modding the game is explicitly written as a no-no in their fine print, they might be able to do this? ... : dahanese
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        most games have clauses in the EULA against reverse engineering. how often they are enforced against mods... : peat
        • i can't imagine them doing this. /rocks quietly in the corner : dahanese
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  btw do I need to run hacked code to play on those? the turbo levelling sounds appealing since this game i... : Downforce
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    yeah, you do. it's risky if you have a bunch of games on your steam account : peat
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      which of course I do. hmmm well shit. since everyone has ninja skills and shit already it doesn't sound v... : Downforce
      • it's nowhere near that bad. the default loadouts are all incredibly useful. i'm still using a gun i unloc... : grifter
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      worst case scenario, you can no longer play games on that steam account on VAC-protected servers. admitte... : crummynz
      • I was under the impression it banned your entire steam account : peat
      • It would be great to get official word about these kind of things. : ghost in my shell
  • That's the one thing I fear the most. I don't want turboleveling. I like the MMO aspect of it with the gr... : Sgt_Boomstick
  • Nope, anyone can join a game like this. Just need the mod if you want to control it yourself. : Beady

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  very clever, Sparkly. Get our attention by taking pictures of naked ladies and then sell us prints of fuc... : edgewise
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    seriously though, nice work. They look great. : edgewise
    • haha thanks :) : sparkly
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  great stuff, as usual. i wish i could use photoshelter to print for me instead of having to fill the ord... : jenisthebest
  • oh that's a bummer. Do you sell a lot anyway through Photoshelter? How do you promote your stuff? : sparkly
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  Lovin' WWW 11. Will make a purchase on pay day. Good luck with the sales :-) : =]Milo[=
  • Right on, man! Thanks! : sparkly
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  I just purchased WWW3 and 4 :D : ra1n
  • wallet size : gmd
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  d300 is 12mp correct? I was surprised how well my photo looked when I got a 30x20 print of it. : gmd
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    Yeah, 12.1MP or something. I printed a 20x30 with my 6MP d70 4 years ago and it looked great! : sparkly
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      If you stand 20 feet away it looks like you're RIGHT THERE! : mlev
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        But seriously though. Your work is amazing, but 12MP printing 30x20 is like 140ppi. : mlev
        • I printed http://www.etsy.com/view_listing.php?listing_id=34494494 at 30x40 inches and it looks incredibl... : sparkly
        • I found that printing things at 100dpi is the minimum for photos if you really want a poster size. 300dp... : DHAvatar
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          That's six times the pixel count of a 1080p TV. It would be fine from just a couple feet away or more I'... : DinK
          • Depends on your quality standards I guess. These particular images of Sparky's don't have a lot of fine d... : piser
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          yeah. This article by Thom Hogan has really good info on printing/dpi limitations: http://www.bythom.c... : piser
          • I will do a closeup of my 30x40 so you can see exactly how it looks. It is certainly upscaled, but the la... : sparkly
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  A lot of shackers have told me they are polite and interested in seeing tits buying prints of my artisti : Slowtreme
  • yeah yeah more tits on the way whatever : sparkly
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  Very impressive sparkly! : ColoradoCNC
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    thanks! :D : sparkly
    • here's how they look on my walls: http://joshlyon.com/stuff/other/framed/bedroom.jpg http://joshlyon.co... : sparkly
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  Those look great on your wall! I'd be proud of those hanging in my place. Surprised you're willing to sel... : DJ Clipdat
  • I dont want to sell them, really, but I spent more money than I anticipated on making them so they have t... : sparkly
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  There's a gallery missing. : iVAN 305
  • close ups of dirty girly bits? : sparkly
  • The minge collection? : ihya
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  Does anyone have experience selling prints online? What is the best way to make myself known? : sparkly
  • plase halp? : sparkly
  • All I can say is good luck. : Nixx2004
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    wtf242 used to have a site, but I don't think it's current. : aethyr
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      I think the IRS is running it now : drucifer
      • robotwalrus.gov : gmd
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    get IKEA to print and sell em for you? : Megara9
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      ha I wish : sparkly
      • you could submit them as tshirt designs to threadless or something : Megara9
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    i've been trying off and on for a while to sell mine and haven't had much luck. seems that's what it is m... : n0v4
    • have either of you tried deviant whoring? : Amnesty_intl2
• Evening bump! ShackART! : sparkly
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  Some of those would be good album covers for a band called "Copyrighted Protected Image" : Cihte
  • Copyright Protected Image. CPI Boyz : Cihte
  • haha, obviously they dont print with that on them :P : sparkly
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  I kind of want Worlds Within Worlds 1. I just need to justify $350 :O : aggressor
  • That seems to be the popular one! It's fucking HUGE dude...I did a bad job of showing the scale in the ph... : sparkly

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  Wanna bet it doesn't release then? : WhatIsThisFor
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    or it does, but the servers are hammered to hell so no one can play until 4am : re4ctor
    • this is most likely, I think : Thomas Hace
• I am cautiously pumped. I doubt it will release when they say it will. : deathofrats
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  Is anybody going to be up at 12AM (barring Valve Time) to play co-op with me? :( I want to play the godda... : vile
  • I'll be sleeping. : jonin
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    no : sanchez
    • I don't trust Valve time. I will not wait. : LoioshDwaggie
  • I hope to be home from work by then (US Central) and I do not like versus : dognose
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    I will play at least one campaign, maybe more, tonight, co-op. On easy, if I have a choice. : NexusOne
    • Easy is the most fun, and is not always very easy : dognose
  • God, we plan to do all the campaigns on expert tonight. I'm going to be so fucked for work tomorrow. : Godhatesfatpeople
  • ill be around, steam id: nzeer : rmjackson
  • Dude, Valve time. I'll be up till midnight pacific standard and THEN maybe it'll be out and I'll play a c... : locater16
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    I'm definitely going through coop a few times before playing versus, but I'll do some scavenge tonight if... : pyide
    • I've got a boner for realism mode. : pyide
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    I'll be up waiting. if it passes 1am and it's not out yet though, I'm going to bed. : zerog83
    • your a brave man : jonin
  • I MIGHT be up for a game... we'll see what my state is by then =) I much prefer campaign over versus... : kallanta
  • I'll play with ya!!!! 2 hrs45 min Supermonkeyballz Add me dood : supermonkeyballz
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  There's no way it's coming out then. : CrustaR
  • shut up you : n0v4
• Me cause a friend is giving me one of his 4pack extras :) : GoodBoy
• No news about server files yet. Not looking good for release tonight... : Alco23
• Me! Though anyone got a clan 4 pack slot I can buy? I still need to pre-order. :( : node
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  not me. there's HoN, Torchlight, L4D1, DA:O, Borderlands, MW2, Quakelive, TF2, a whole slew of alternati... : ]pm[chem
  • d'awwwwww : Godhatesfatpeople
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    Good lord not this shit again. Also it's funny you mention MW2, that being a 6 hour game that costs $60. : thrallie200
    • The game has excellent multiplayer. That makes it more than a 6 hour game. : chuck577
  • Haha, you are so wrong. : rudds
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  Lets get some versus going in this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lFkXFqHc9E : alphablu
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    So fucking awesome :D : Godhatesfatpeople
    • Q: Is this just an animation or an actual game? A: An actual game. It will be available for free downloa : Godhatesfatpeople
  • wow - that is cool! : TroZ
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    Bumping this. Because it's awesome. : Godhatesfatpeople
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      I actually thought it looked very boring. I never saw a single horde, and the guys never really came afte... : OverloadUT
      • Yeah its one thing I wanted to see. But it says he's keeping most of the game under wraps with one more t... : Godhatesfatpeople
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  BARZAH BARRAGAZ HAMBAGAZ! : TastyWheat
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    BARHAH HARMANZ : TastyWheat
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      mrh? : zakazi
      • mah zambah brazzaz, barmarz zah barragahz! : TastyWheat
• I'm excited and will be ready and waiting at 10pm local time. Although I will probably give up until tomo... : dfay
• Kind of glad I live on the West Coast so I won't be completely screwed for work tomorrow. : The Grolar Bear
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  Not me! It'll probably suck just as bad (if not worst) than L4D1! Not even joking / trolling either. I... : goatjc
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    Let me guess you only played SP against bots for 15 minutes right? Yeah that's how I felt when I first d... : dognose
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      wait, you play vs now? when did this happen? you're so dead buddy : jimmy-buffett
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        Huh? Hell no I don't play versus, I loves me some co-op with Shackers! I dislike versus very much good S... : dognose
        • bah I read "with other shackers" as versus, my bad : jimmy-buffett
• Anybody have a spare 4-pack deal to sell? A buddy of mine wants in. : jimmy-buffett
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  I have the flu, yet I'm still tempted to go to the midnight launch at Gamestop to pick up my copy. I'm d... : Arcanum
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    on 360 or PC? not sure why anybody would pay full retail for a game that can be had for $33 on PC, espec... : jimmy-buffett
    • PC. I had trade-in credit. *shrug* : Arcanum
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  I'm setting up l4d2 servers for this right now. 2 coop and 2 vs to start, I guess. oh and maybe one o... : re-verse
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    is there a way to associate them to the L4D2 shack group? : jimmy-buffett
    • Same command as with the l4d1 servers. : re-verse
  • Cool Ty sir. : supermonkeyballz
  • Of course, right as i start to do this, my server goes down - it had over 200 days uptime :( The hosti... : re-verse
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  do we know what the realism mode is? : DogDharma
  • http://www.straight.com/article-266036/left-4-dead-2s-realism-mode-made-advanced-zombie-killers : Godhatesfatpeople
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  INVITE me to the group !!! http://steamcommunity.com/id/CoNcrete : Concrete
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    same here http://steamcommunity.com/id/metatron85 : Metatron85
    • same here http://steamcommunity.com/id/bagelcc : bagelcc
  • would be loving an invite: http://steamcommunity.com/id/Klebold : Klebold

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  what is the big deal about this movie? : burningpantsman
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    It's a new science fiction film from arguably one of the best science fiction directors of all time? : Vincent Grayson
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      with a huge budget : moe6
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        Dances With Smurfs. : gakera
        • oh my lols : Megara9
        • Those are some badass smurfs. : Jobos
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        with space furries with heavy handed themes of environmentalism and the evils of white men. I actuall... : Modulus
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          We don't question the Cameron. Even if he's directing Fern Gully part 3 : sKetchflow
          • yeah, Fern Gully with bare-chested gorgeous blue aliens (yes, there are uncovered boobies in this movie) : Jobos
    • Apparently he's been working on it for 15 years. : The Grolar Bear
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    It seems like it has to much a of moral story for me, so I am going to skip this one. : WadeMcLain
    • It looks like Ferngully on steroids. : underground banana plantation
  • its about the middle east : stgdz
  • Reading your question makes me realize that you have NOT seen the trailer right? : Michael_Lyles
• considering the marketing budget for this movie, I fail to see the point of this "cause" that you are cha... : DapperDan
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  lol they spent over 500 million on this movie and you're trying to raise awarness? This isnt some indy fi... : headbone
  • somethin fishy goin on here! : niceguynick
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  Yeah.. James Cameron is directing, writing AND producing Avatar. If you look at his other work ( http://e... : aldraek
  • Piranha was a fun movie, stupid, but fun. Ok, only with friends MST3k style... : breadsticks
  • you should watch Xenogenesis some time : Herman Toothrot
  • It looks like a huge turd sandwich though! : corey
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  holy shit, are you the marketsaw guy?!? this marketsaw guy? http://marketsaw.blogspot.com/ : Herman Toothrot
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    that is one UGLY website : niceguynick
    • yes, but it was a lot of fun to read that website's speculations on things while working on the film and ... : Herman Toothrot
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    No, his name is Jim. I'm just a dude that has found a lot of people there that are interested in the sam... : Jobos
    • ok cool, cuz i gotta say, we got a lot of good laughs out of that site back when i was at lightstorm : Herman Toothrot
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  I smell a flop. : edgewise
  • if that happens somebody is getting fired big time. Huge budget on this movie. : Michael_Lyles
• It uses the Cryengine 2! : YerMothah
• Yeah sorry, but it just doesn't look that good to me. I hope it proves me wrong. : virus
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  oh ya, well I'm trying to spread awareness of AIDS, what do you think about that. : slickdoody
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    Is that what you call hanging out in reststop bathrooms? : Wyvern
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      interestingly, my boss gave me a impromptu lecture about this book while driving back from a meeting a fe... : slickdoody
      • he's a sociologist, and had professional reasons for reading the book, mind you : slickdoody
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  I don't understand what you mean. Doesn't this movie have a HUGE budget? Why would regular people need to... : OverloadUT
  • We don't know if the movie will be good -- but the Stereo3D cameras that were used on this film are cutti... : Jobos
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  I can't do it because the blue people look like gelflings and that creeps me out. Also, it looks like a v... : Bean
  • Do it for the future of Stereoscopic 3D! Do it for the children! : Jobos
  • ahaha you've just set yourself up for a WE full of gelfling dolls : Megara9
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  This movie is going to flop. Creatures look weird as fuck. I'm not going to see it. : imcompa
  • Your mini-statements are very succinct. : Klebold
• This movie is gonna kick ass! : Michael_Lyles
• This movie looks like Fern Gully in space to me. : gibolas1234

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  that shit's traceable to a point. also bring it to the cops - he probably left fingerprints on the lette... : beastrabban
  • The real world isn't like it is on CSI. : thrallie200
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    no department is ever going to devote time to this. : thekidd
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      Leads, yeah, sure. I'll just check with the boys down at the crime lab, they've got four more detectives : fsck
      • They will call you if they get any leads okay? Now fucking leave them alone! : Lightzout
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      we're working in shifts! : chrisschutz
      • dammit should have refreshed : chrisschutz
  • Not to be a party pooper, but would the police really care about everyday thefts like this? I mean, even... : TwiLyght
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    shack really needs a sarcasm tag. : beastrabban
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      yeah your post is DRIPPING with it : chrisschutz
      • point taken. it was one of those start typing, got sidetracked for 10 minutes, then finished typing and ... : beastrabban
  • LOL : skinlab133
  • solving this should be so easy, you could say.. *puts on sunglasses*... we're just going to mail it in. : greydog
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  it was stolen from someone who knows her or is friends with her : drucifer
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    thats what I was thinking. Or it's just a very morally conscious thief. : seas.
    • that never happens.... just saying. : drucifer
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    Actually getting your ID stolen sucks ass, so the theif knew its probably happened to them before so they... : Iwannaacura
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      wait, since when does getting your cc stolen not suck ass? my parents had their credit fucked up years ag... : Herman Toothrot
      • lol, really disputing charges is not difficult it never comes down to ' I don' t believe you'. Call CC co... : pigz
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  I'm so sorry and all, but can anyone actually remember the last time a cashier actually checked your sign... : nyranger66
  • yesterday. : mindmann
  • Yes. In fact every time I have made a credit card purchase they have asked for my ID. Not even once has s... : thrallie200
  • couple days ago. : zakazi
  • When I go to the movies they do sometimes. That's the only time I ever see it. : crummynz
  • last night : J4NUS
  • It only happens occasionally here, but they seem to be much stricter in Europe. : underground banana plantation
  • it's very rare : dromo5
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    My card was rejected last time because the guy checked the back and noticed it wasn't signed. : DHAvatar
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      my friend once had that happen but the cashier just said he needed to sign it, so he signed it right ther... : Herman Toothrot
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        security fail. : Turd Ferguson
        • the american credit card system is fail. : j0nchan
      • That is fucking hilarious : fishbone
      • lololol retarded : ghost hacker
      • haha that's happened to me :) : Megara9
      • I hate to keep posting in this thread because you people are pretty stupid. It is not the job of retailer... : pigz
    • My card has remained unsigned so long, that it has dinner with Trent Reznor once a month. : davantalus
  • nope, they just check the back to make sure it's signed. I think the last time they checked my ID for my ... : mo13
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    Over here in NJ, my signature has NEVER EVER been checked. Never gets checked in NY either. Hell, most... : YerMothah
    • Yea the least they could do is implement the input zip code feature that gas stations have as some sort o... : ant_hillbilly
  • rarely : bad_fish
  • never? : Frush81
  • Today. You suck ranger. : brickmatt
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    Was asked to sign the back of mine yesterday - I refuse to sign the back of any card I have. : Skoal^Fyfan
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      You lose out on some protections if you don't sign it afik : Turd Ferguson
      • like what, exactly? i'm curiuos : Herman Toothrot
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        like denial of use. I've had a retailer do that before, and that is their right. : Iwannaacura
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          I've saw a guy ahead of me in JCPenny or something pay with a credit card, signed the receipt, the cashie... : bipolar
          • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21423164#itemanchor_21423164 : Herman Toothrot
        • I thought that was against the TOS for credit card companies? : boofy
      • technically you lose out on using it all since its not valid until you sign it! : ninjase
    • Why is that? : fishbone
    • then can't the thief sign your card, and use the same signature on the receipt? : threeup
    • Why would you refuse doing something that's a requirement for using the card? : DinK
  • very very rarely : slickdoody
  • Honestly, how many places still require you to hand over the card instead of having a little machine that... : ArcKnight
  • yes, the liquor store >:( : Downforce
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    not often because I usually use debit : mikecyb
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      lol, it costs me $.25 per transaction if I put it as debit, so I always put my debit card as credit. : nyranger66
      • really? that's dumb. your bank is dumb. : mikecyb
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    Hardly ever. And I have SEE ID on the back of my card. : royalally
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      what if they stole your ID too? : drucifer
      • They'd get to be one handsome devil for a few days! : royalally
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      NOT VALID UNLESS SIGNED, Mr. Seeid. : Ebu
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        Hey I'm just pointing out that even when there's giant bold-lettered instructions to ask the person for I... : royalally
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          I have a few times - always at a Post Office. Pissed me off too because I'm pretty sure your signature do... : zakazi
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            Do you sign all your official documents with "See ID"? : Prozium
            • shhhh, they don't know that! =D : zakazi
        • Of course they don't ask to see ID: it's a violation of their merchant agreement with VISA. : Bold
    • having SEE ID on the back doesn't obligate them to actually do so : ninjase
    • you know that they do not have to SEE ID right? : creep
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    It's actually against the merchant agreement to require ID. For MasterCard, at least. : Ebu
    • ^^^ This! And for you chuckleheads with "See ID" on the back: not only is the merchant prohibited by VISA... : Bold
  • This afternoon when I bought my lunch at Subway. Suck it Trebek. : eseiat
  • Yeah, I was in New Zealand - they don't give a shit in Australia. : abrasion
  • It happens almost every time when I make large purchases -- as it should. Of course I don't expect them t... : seas.
  • Yes, at Best Buy when I bought Borderlands. : Lightzout
  • Depends on the store. All have policies that say they must but some stores are very lax in actually enfor... : sanchez
  • It happens near colleges here, but almost never anywhere else. : re-verse
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    I was buying a DVD for someone for Christmas at HMV a few years ago and the guy scrutinized my signature ... : jenisthebest
    • was he muttering "tiny little doll hands" to himself the entire time? : zakazi
  • Yesterday at dinner. : not work safe
  • I use credit cards exclusively and get checked not very often maybe once every couple weeks. : fathertime
  • last week at the beer store. i always compliment when they do. And I always ask the others that don't .. ... : ghost hacker
  • This rarely happens to me and I use my credit card to buy pretty much everything. : Evil Benius
  • The signature on the back of mine wore off and nobody has ever looked at it or asked me about it. : hashd
  • http://www.scribd.com/doc/101442/Credit-Card-Signature Used to be on a site somewhere but I guess it's p... : Haxim
  • A few months ago while buying a Mt. Dew at a convenience store. The new guy asked for my ID, and I didn't... : Cihte
• just going to use the Sherlock in me, they credit card bill + store camera = might have a chance? : Frush81
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  I worked retail for 10 years. You'd be surprised how many people were offended or bothered when you'd ve... : action wombmate
  • I never have been offended or annoyed -- but maybe that's because I used to work retail, too. : seas.
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    I thank them for asking, and they are sometimes surprised when I do. : dognose
    • I do this and get the same reaction. : PhoenixArisen
    • Same, I appreciate it when they do ask. : yosemiteclimber
  • no they absolutely are not and your violating your merchant agreement if you do anything BUT check to mak... : pigz
• Per the merchant agreements they are only supposed to check the signature against the signature on the ca... : Awun
• i use the Pin number when i use those electronic Eftpos systems when i get to the point of sale. same num... : CoRDS
• He probably copied all of her info and doesn't want her changing anything. I would still get a new ID. : sharpie
• I'd kick his ass after i found him. : Michael_Lyles
• it was me. : slickdoody

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  I get the feeling no one bought this. You all should if you liked GTA 4. : soggybagel
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    We're all waiting for the PC version. : CrustaR
    • I know i am, CrustaR! : Dschinghis Khan
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      I'm not waiting for this CrustaR. You should buy an Xbox 360 and move on with your life. : ateam311
      • Does the 360 version have a movie editor? : CrustaR
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      Me too, but it looks like we will get TLAD first which is fine with me :) : thrallie200
      • At this point, I will take what I can get. :[ : CrustaR
    • same here, i want to revisit liberty city even though the gameplay feels so outdated in terms of combat. ... : Hoax
    • Hear hear : thejm4n
  • I think it was a terrible time to release it. : SiW.
  • i bought it. haven't had time to play it yet though. : Mansmells
  • I bought it day of release : tomservo
  • bought it and beat it. but that was awhile ago cause I'm cool and one step ahead of the curve. booyah. : sKetchflow
  • I bought it good sir and I too love the characters. I've been neglecting it because of MW2 and, starting ... : ateam311
  • I love it, but then Forza 3 and MW2 happened and its kinda on the back burner now. : opengl128
  • I want to get it, but just too many other stuff out. I'll grab it when I can. : jonin
  • Not coming to PS3 :( : abrasion
  • I didn't know it was out! : marmite
  • i'm going to wait for a deal on both episodes. i have enough to play in the mean time : Korban
• I picked it up, but immediately dove into Forza 3 and now MW2. I'll go back to it in a few weeks. What ... : umcpwintermute
• I am really enjoying Lost & the Damned, but I am also trying to plow through it because I have a feeling ... : tomservo
• I bought it, and its awesome. I love the sticky bombs. The new checkpoint system is MUCH better and far l... : headbone
• Bought it and I'm loving it. I love the changes they made to the way random characters are now. Origin... : Bull
• I have only done the first two missions but it's fun so far! : OverloadUT
• I watched the part where you are first introduced to Yusaf and was laughing my ass off, that dude is hila... : atom519
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  It may sound strange but I really wish they'd tone down the language in these games. It's not that I fin... : WhatIsThisFor
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    you probably hated Deadwood. :( : FormerHPB
    • I loved it, David Milch is a better writer than the Houser brotehrs. : WhatIsThisFor
  • LOL. Watch the movies they based the games on (Scarface, Goodfella, Casino, King of New York). It's a ref... : Fyunch Click
  • Sadly or maybe not sadly I know plenty of people who talk like this. : soggybagel
• Yusuf is definately one of my favorite video game characters ever. Pretty much all of his dialogue is hil... : evildanish
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  I liked Yusaf but found Mori just annoying. : boredguy
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    Same here. I loved Brucie in the original but not Mori. I also didn't like how Brucie was in a few TBoGT ... : Bull
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      He gets more lines towards the end. : evildanish
      • Glad to hear that he makes a return. He's one of my favorites :) : tomservo
• Agreed. Several of the missions and cut-scenes etc. had me laughing out loud, trying not to make too much... : nudel

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  I have never seen it and the premise doesn't really grab me. Tell me why I should watch it and I will wat... : tomservo
  • Interesting / realistic view of time travel, turns into a crazy plot that is nearly impossible to fully c... : slickdoody
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    It's not very long, but it's super dense. It's really well-constructed, almost like a puzzle, and nothin... : qsylvr
    • Pretty much this. While the movie's premise is science fiction, the results of the premise give a fantast... : Vincent Grayson
    • great summary! : slickdoody
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      I would say the audio suffers due to the budget and/or his inexperience. Dialog volume is all over the pl... : Prozium
      • The budget for this movie was so astronomically low that you just have to look past stuff like that imo. ... : Ellissd
    • This sells me. Thank you! : tomservo
  • the best part is how cheaply it was made. a bunch of dorks just got together and made a cool movie : spiderfill
  • it's not that interesting and because it's time travel that loops on itself everything pretends its super... : ibrokn
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  I still don't get: How did the girlfriends dad find out about one of the boxes and get into the locked st : kevp
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    As the narrator says something really bad must have happened for him to tell the guy . It's likely the t : r_picmip 5
    • ^^ is what i believe is what happens. TIMECUBE STYLE : m0rfus
• It's on blu-ray? : indosauros
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  Your mind is blown before you've seen it. Sounds like Primer alright. : ieGod
  • hahahaha : slickdoody
  • haha : WhatIsThisFor
  • ahahaha : zohar79
  • i love time travel puns : spiderfill
  • this post needs more love : c0bra
  • such an awesome movie : .frame
  • Exactly! : Nixx2004
  • best. movie. ever. : m0rfus
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  holy fuck, that movie came out in 2004?!? I thought it came out like last year or so : Herman Toothrot
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    it did, and then it changed : Slowtreme
    • haha and they just keep coming... : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Somehow I don't see HD making a big difference with this one. : CrabsJarrard
  • The background mic hum is amazing! : Slowtreme
  • Maybe true, but at least it's in the proper widescreen format. It's not on Blu-ray, it was on cable (I... : Nixx2004
• Wasn't there talk of them remaking it with a bigger budget? Great movie though. : r_picmip 5
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  I really didn't like that movie and I typically love time travel stuff :( : sparkly
  • mr. sparkly, I recently watched this foreign time travel movie on Netflix instant that was quite excellen... : CrustaR
  • Oh, it was called Time Crimes. It's feekin' awesome: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0480669/ : CrustaR
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  Describes it so well. http://xkcd.com/657/large/ : notdeadyeti
  • Oh yeah, bottom right of this giant picture. : notdeadyeti
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    This timeline doesn't really help: http://www.freeweb.hu/neuwanstein/ : Nixx2004
    • the best part about that is that it's not even a joke, that's exactly how the movie plays out : Herman Toothrot
• It's like watching paint dry! : breadsticks
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  Is it like The Fountain? Because that movie licked unshaven ballsacks and I don't want to rent another mo... : bozer
  • it's totally unlike that movie however you'll probably hate this one too : MrBig0
• I have to watch it again. Perhaps I should actually buy a copy. : zipr

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• Hopefully I'll be around tonight. : FormerHPB
• I'll probably be on for a bit. : Fyunch Click
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  That's perfect timing for me to get back from wings! I'm in, but there's a good chance I'll be loaded. : Clasifyd
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    It might help your ability to play. : Fyunch Click
    • At least it'll ease the pain of humiliation. : Clasifyd
• I won't be on tonight unless it's later since it's my wife's bday and we are going to her parents tonight... : mancide
• I'd like to play. So far I've had to ignore Shacker invites due to time constraints. :( : Haku-Jin
• I should be on around then. : UselessHack
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  I maybe on, we'll see : jonin
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    You're not kidding anyone, jonin, you're totally going to be on. : Clasifyd
    • lols : jonin
• I'll be on tonight (probably after 9-930), tomorrow (after 7) and same with Wednesday... Add me, gamer... : inc77
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  I'll be on tonight if anyone else is. I need to shoot some motherfuckers in the face. : ThomW
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    As long as you and I are on diff teams. It wouldn't be fair pairing us up after the way we tore it up in... : FormerHPB
    • lol : ThomW
    • This sounds good. You should record videos next time. : ieGod
• I'm in..what time? : kainen1
• I had some great games with Shackers last night, I'm down for any type of communal gaming. : ieGod
• for private games it dont matter. Can be 9 on 9 for anything. Ground war ranked games can kiss my ass ... : -=kodiak=-
• How do I go about getting signed up to game with Shackers? I signed up for the Gamewith.us site but haven... : kagath
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  I will be on but am too focused on leveling up in ranked matches. when the numbers wear thin I will play ... : maulla
  • I know, I am somewhat there with you but most of my perks are at pro level now so I want to at least get ... : FrayLo
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    Demolition is a badass mode maulla. ive been getting 10K+ xp a game. Very easy to consistently get 30-... : -=kodiak=-
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      Jesus, good to know! : nevlos
      • we just had some afternoon shack games a short while ago. i went 56 and 16 on derail. kickin it old... : -=kodiak=-
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      I was put off when I played it the first time because it was on favela. That map is so fucking bad it mak... : maulla
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        Favela is fine - Underpass is a goddamn travesty of a map though. : ArcKnight
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          why do you say that? I think there's a good bit of variety, and still some great camping spots. : dedgecko
          • The side that spawns on the slums is at such a disadvantage it's not even funny - the other side of the m... : ArcKnight
    • i thought HQ was the most XP game to play? : Iwannaacura
• add me please!!! gamertag: Plicerin : vrocket
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  9v9 is Ground War and it alternates between Team DM and Domination. : Fred Garvin
  • If it's a private match it doesn't matter what the ranked playlist is, as kodiak said. : ArcKnight
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  Will this be hardcore or normal? : ArcKnight
  • Eh, fuckit. I'll be there for either. Someone should make sure to post in ER though. : ArcKnight
• gamertag: Code Red Beard I'm typically available after 7pm PT, but tonight I'll be busy until 9 or 10. : Code RedBeard
• i'd love to join. gamertag is shackname : heyrobscott
• all this week i am pretty much available whenever. : creep
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  I want to play with you dudes!!! : soggybagel
  • okay i'm gonna eat dinner then hop on, maybe in an hour : FrayLo
• I should be online after 9pm eastern for some COD goodness : infallible
• going on now yo : FrayLo
• Downloading now!! : Concrete
• I would be up for a 360 shackbattle. GT is MrStark77. : kagath

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  What's up D:\Games buddy? : mechanicalgrape
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    Hello D:\Games friend. : deject
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      it's where games belong : sparkly
      • Getchyou one! : locater16
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      Me too! How the hell did it work this out? : node
      • I would imagine it scanned registry for where other EA/Bioware games have been installed in the past and ... : vitek r
      • You can thank Derek French and Owen Borstad for this. Derek for the idea and probably Owen for the implem... : BioSector
    • d:\games 4life! but I must admit I also have e:\games : headbone
    • Can I get in on this hot D:\Games action? :) : Gary the Llama
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      E:\Games here : Mr. Goodwrench
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        I myself am an E:\Games kind of guy. : Navy Spitfire
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          E:\Games here too. Just because I have a weird setup right now where D: is my system drive, otherwise I'... : DinK
          • I'm dual booting OS's, so C is Win7 and D is WinXP.....and they are both on seperate drives....then I hav... : Mr. Goodwrench
  • I'm in the d:\games club, and proud of it. : NexusOne
  • True story here, too. : ScrawnyJohnny
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    Can we a get a D:\Boobies up in this house?! : Skoal^Fyfan
    • Shut up fag. : Gary the Llama
    • more like D:\System Files\Cache\Core\Link Libraries\2nd Cache\Kernel\8008S : deviantpaul
    • w:\docs (network drive) : NexusOne
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    A:\Games for me. Oh, and the volume label is AWESOME. A: (AWESOME) I figured why not? It's a perfec... : Bean
    • How you put game on a floppy drive? I don't understand!! : buzzbat
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      It's funny how my rejects this idea like you suggested 6 Minute abs. : zakazi
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        You should try it. It's liberating! : Bean
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          But....but all of my legacy apps programs old ass games! : ArcKnight
          • I haven't had a problem with old games myself. : Bean
  • D:\Games here too. FO LIFE FO SHIZZLE : ashkie
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    Fuck off D:\Games. I've got an entire drive dedicated to games. IT'S ALL GOIN IN Z:\ YEAHHH : DrWaffles
    • Eww, they're talking about a partitions on the same drive? GAY. Dedicated drive is the way. : Mr. Goodwrench
  • My entire D: partition IS the games folder. : Matt Burris
  • word : r3dn3ck
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  oh youre one of THOSE people : spiderfill
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    What do you mean, THOSE people? : Jikim