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• ugh : opengl128
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  Why do you hope it tanks? Because of some goof posting in neogaf? : Dave-A
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    YES THAT"S WHY : RikiTiki2
    • RicketyTicketyToo, why are you shouting? : Dave-A
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  I dont get how they outed him..? He posts and then a few posts later there's some blurb from a marketing ... : n0v4
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    Either a moderator looked into his IP or they keep a nice set of bookmarks to pages like this: http://ww... : roushimsx
    • God, this thread keeps spilling out the awesome links http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?st... : roushimsx
  • It almost looks like he outed himself with that "well, we got people talking" thing. What kind of a viral... : Dave-A
  • I think they said he signed up with an email addy for his company : AllYourBase
• That's a pretty lame reason to hope the game tanks. : Fred Garvin
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  neogafaneogaf. Not everyone gives a fuck about NEOGAF. : the archvile
  • neogayf. : SpaecKow
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  I hear that Borderlands is the ultimate combination of Wasteland, Gauntlet, and Spy Hunter and for that r... : LilCrypto
  • Your ideas are interesting. Do you have a newsletter I can subscribe to? : halophoenix
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  hahah wow. Shills only bring my opinion of the game/company down, why do they use them? especially on s... : deathofrats
  • I am sure most of them do not get found out. : brecht
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  I've been waiting for months for my neogaf forum account to be approved, but haven't heard from them at a... : Frozen Pixel
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    Yup, they take their sweet time. By the time I got approved I didn't even give a shit. : Fred Garvin
    • Yeah, that's how I feel at this point. : Frozen Pixel
  • it's been a few years for me at this point i think : megarust32
  • I think they approve them in batches. It's like the most annoying club bouncer. I got rejected once, I ... : SiW.
  • they deleted mine because I'm not cool enough after not posting there ever. Fortunately no such ap... : TimeDoctor
  • I submitted 2 years ago, still waiting. I also sent a few emails asking what was going on and never heard... : socksta
  • I got approved after a few months of waiting and then posted about Played. Mainly because I saw a few oth... : warcrow
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  IF you guys actually read the thread... youd have realized: Despite all the great games coming out,... : chilln
  • So ur sayin u wanna have an orgy with 3 other dudes? : Frank_Mackey
  • chilln...more like shilln! : Nixx2004
  • mr.masa is that you? : snidely sid
  • Co-op can ruin certain types of single-player games. It's by no means a generally good thing, it's a case... : mittense
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    I actually really like what's said in this post. Though obviously co-op can't work for every single game... : DinK
    • lol I was repeating the viral marketing at the beginning of the thread. : chilln
• I am sorry that you will never taste success. : Mad Jack McMad
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  jesus. what I would hope you understand here, is that we have no control over the things our publisher... : dopefish
  • I agree with dopefish. : irrerno
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    No, I just want to be "that guy". Because this game is hyped beyond belief. : Drewus
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      Really? I don't feel like it's been all that hyped compared to say, MW2 or Uncharted 2. : Vincent Grayson
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        I very much feel it has. I'll be buying it, thanks solely to that $34 steam pack, but I'm extremely skept... : Ebu
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          I feel like for every person excited about the game, there's someone shitting on it, which I guess has te... : Vincent Grayson
          • Oh, I'm going in expecting it to be boring, monotonous shit. My $34 hopes I'm wrong! : Ebu
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        Mechwarrior 2 is awesome, though. : CrustaR
        • get the mercenaries expansion, that'll rock your socks : snidely sid
    • Beyond belief? : Fred Garvin
  • Actually, saying that he hopes that the game tanks is nothing like saying that he "hopes the 100 or so pe... : Ebu
  • that guy still effectively represents your product though. im not saying its your fault or that you dese... : smacknca
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    What if your publisher, made a commericial with a CG Hitler approving of Borderlands? Could you really th... : ghost in my shell
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      ok i know this is a joke/troll/whatever, but if something that ludicrous actually happened, what other po... : dopefish
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        I think if I was in your shoes I would pick up the phone and call someone, maybe my boss. Not over some m... : ghost in my shell
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          heheh, yes if there was ever a hitler commercial, there would definitely be emails/calls/whatever, but, a... : dopefish
          • If you wanted to keep your job than ~MY PUBLISHER~ in public is probably the way to go. : ghost in my shell
  • general publisher douchebaggery huh : Magus
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    I feel really sorry for you guys. The game looks great, but horribly marketed. What is the publisher af... : SiW.
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      Besides this tool, how else has the marketing been "horrible"? : sixfoot6
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        Everything out of Randy's mouth, for one. The ad that's running, for another. I'm still really intere... : SiW.
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          Yeah weird, I could listen to Randy talk about the game for hours. And I've dug the videos. I think peopl... : sixfoot6
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            It's silly to see the "I'M NOT BUYING THIS NOW BECAUSE VIRAL MARKETING SUCKS" people though. Pretty much... : SiW.
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              It''s isn't really even viral marketing. When I think of "viral marketing" I think of a ILOVEBEES or "Wi... : smax
              • No, this is really astroturfing. Still, the point remains - who actually gives a fuck what a marketing i... : SiW.
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              this statement makes me sad, because in many cases (these two companies being two of them) it's not the c... : dahanese
              • I agree. All those sweet trailers shown at E3? Marketing. I remember seeing the Mass Effect E3 trailer in... : ArcKnight
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    Randy Pitchfork must be a scary guy if you are worried the team will die in a fire if the game tanks. : Beady
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmUJrKGN3C0 : Kentor
    • Burning my employees alive. Feels good, man. : aeg1x
  • hahaha : Godhatesfatpeople
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    welcome to bioware developers personal hell. bitch. : Hoax
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      Say what now? : Fred Garvin
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        Referring to Dragon Age marketing, I presume. : SiW.
        • http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2009/09/27/mass-effect-2s-all-powerful-bitch/ mass effect 2 in this ca... : Hoax
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    as the person who is in charge of this scope of stuff, i have a policy against this sort of thing, and we... : dahanese
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      you should make a follow-up post later because this sounds like it could be interesting : Sapiens
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        i'll see if i can. i'm not about to throw anyone under the bus, but i wanted people to know that i have a... : dahanese
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          Very admiral of you. : terath
          • Wait, we have to salute dahanese now? Fuck. : ArcKnight
        • If you read his post on TheKartel that he also links from the Gaf thread he also has a followup there whe... : SilverSnake
    • Going to have to work twice as hard to undo the damage now. : chazums
    • <3 can't wait to find out : roushimsx
    • Community Shill Investigator. : RyDogg1
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  fuck nike i hate that shit : spaceless
  • anyone have some air jordans i can borrow for my game later tonight? : spaceless
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  Steve Gibson is turning in his grave : DrFlammable
  • Stuff that sucks: Annoying gaming website I own Shills ruining my future game's marketability : ghost in my shell
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    as marketing director he would have given it the green light. : CoRDS
    • Most pubs have final say on marketing/pr and often times they don't bother running things by you. It's p... : GeorgeB3DR
• hahaha : smax
• internet tubes are at ludicrous speed : Downforce
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  I hope people actually judge the game on it's own merits and whether or not they think they'll have fun p... : classicfork
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    Protip: People don't like to be deceived. : Robotic Puppy Eater
    • imagine my reaction when I found out those people actually DO NOT LOVE McDonalds!!! : razorblade79
  • I wonder how people feel about these people now streaming entire games on justintv and sites just like it... : ghost in my shell
  • it's not a reaction to a forum poster, it's a reaction to this company doing this viral advertising crap : AllYourBase
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  hating on an unreleased game for the marketing is the most stupid thing I will probably hear all week. : razorblade79
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    Would you consider it strange if people loved a game because of its marketing? I bet not. The goal of mar... : Robotic Puppy Eater
    • no I wouldn't, I would think that about the same amount of the stupid. I may love the marketing but t... : razorblade79
  • Man, you should stay away from anything Juno and g.lee post then. : ArcKnight
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  That's not really viral marketing though. : melt_core
  • Astroo-turfing : d fluke
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    no, it's not. i don't think it has an official name. everyone company that does it pitches it as somethin... : dahanese
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      Ufortunately I'd say astroturfing is official enough: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astroturfing : d fluke
      • haha I love how it's a play on grassroots. : Mad Brahmin Disease
      • Everyone should read Gibson's Pattern Recognition. It describes the next logical step from "online" Astro... : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • Sometimes my employers asks me to do similar stuff, thought we're much more honest about it than this guy... : melt_core
  • Yeah, that's straight up shilling : chazums
  • Exactly. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Why are geeks so freaked out by marketing and sales. Its as if they feel the marketing stink somehow ... : theghostofsmdever
  • Only bad marketing. All marketing apart from just in-game fottage is sure to be dishonest to a small degr... : d fluke
  • I've already bought mine : RogerDandy
  • They probably all work in IT. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • It's just a step too close to real human interaction. Freaks them out a bit. : Creepin_Jeezus
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    For me, it's honestly like I feel someone is telling me to buy something and not realizing I can make my ... : Phreakin
    • err word of mouth advertising : Phreakin
    • Are you personally insulted by the existence of the marketing industry? Plus you surely know that it... : DinK
  • It's the deviousness that is the problem. If they didn't pretend to be 'normal' users and attempt to coe... : chazums
  • I think it's the misrepresentation : boring gegtik
  • Why geeks specifically? People in general react badly to anything that tries to be hip but smacks of fake... : SpaecKow
  • Everyone hates marketers, not just geeks. : CapnChaos
  • While I agree there is a hilarious distaste for sales and marketing even in the likes of many programmers... : zakazi
  • Marketing is the root of all evil. : EricZBA
  • True. : melt_core
• chill out, just because one moron posts on a forum doesn't mean the whole company is bad : [7]kami
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  Meh. I could give a shit. I mean haven't we all been around games long enough now to realize that a ga... : mrwolf710
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    I bet you could not give a shit. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      or I could. I would give some shit to you if you want it. : mrwolf710
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        I could not give a shit if you gave it to me. : Mad Brahmin Disease
        • But then you would have my shit so you could give that one. : mrwolf710
• All marketing is deceit, but infiltrating a community website and pretending to be a normal user is just ... : herradura99
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  HAY THIS LOOKS FAMILIAR http://www.thekartel.com/johnmasterlee/blog/2009/10/18/why_all_games_from_now_on_... : Reeves
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    http://www.thekartel.com/johnmasterlee/blog/2009/10/18/the_harrowing_adventures_of_getting_banned_from_ne... : Reeves
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      "But in this case, I was banned for viral marketing. The problem with this whole situation is: I don†: Reeves
      • liar, liar pants on fiyah! : niceguynick
      • He must be afraid of dahanese's wrath : chazums
    • Sounds pretty reasonable to me : Perturbation
    • So how many people will read this now and admit they were jumping to conclusions. Not many I expect. What... : nodebug
    • Looks like people should boycott NeoGAF for having retarded moderation and jumping to stupid conclusions,... : nudel
• Why would you wish something like that? : razlebol
• I hope you tank! : Arceihn
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  After reading the whole thread I still don't get why this is even an issue : RikiTiki2
  • To take it further, after reading NeoGAF I still don't get why people post on NeoGAF. : gooblerampling
• I love all the people who are consciously basing their thoughts about the game on the company's marketing... : DinK
• I hate to break it to you, but its not going to tank. Keep on hating it though. It makes you look pretty.... : silent prophet
• This is a terrible post. This is supposed to be a dev friendly page. <3 you gibson <3 dopeman : boomstickah
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  Honestly, I can't wait to see the download meter tick on Steam for play time. : Wolfanoz
  • Fucking A : pancake humper
• This Gearbox bashing is beginning to remind me of the L4D2 boycott... : melt_core

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• OK, that's pretty cute : freak!
• !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! cute : jenisthebest
• actually it is awesome. : shadebane
• Win! ;D : lightly inclined
• â—¦_° : deviantpaul
• That hedgehog is going to kill your friend in his/her sleep. : Thresher
• That was pretty awesome :D : grayscale
• that is pretty awesome. : baconisgod
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  H E D G E I C U L A ' D http://www.yourlibrary.ca/kids/images/kidsreviews/bunnicula.jpg : mlev
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    I was able to pick up a copy of this in a used book store. It encouraged me to finally setup up my turnt... : mtgDoofy
    • This was one of my favorite books as a child. The fact that you have the audio book on vinyl makes me wa... : mlev
    • This post makes me want to go to my local used book store and go through all their records. All of them. : Schnapple
  • I loved this book as a kid. : Whistler77
• haha inf tag : eldiablo01
• this is the best dressed up animal picture I have ever seen. : valael
• Awwwwwwwww how cute! : Maddog_Delphi97
• ahaha : skanky08
• Jesus... : pigvomit
• Fuck. That is cute. : smackpiece
• pure awesome is awesome : i poop from there
• see now thats when vampires had class! none of this emo dark shit and pseudo popped collar. straightup ... : smacknca
• LOL, very nice! : thetangent
• lol :) : Reavers!
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  you're friends with Holly?!? : Flying h4x0r
  • Actually I was misspoke, friend of a friend did this. : mtgDoofy
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  My girlfriend is now obsessed with this hedgehog. She won't quit singing "dooo do doooooo!" : ra1n
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    I don't get the song reference :| : Moonbase Commander
    • I'm assuming whatever this is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8of00uEVRRA : Rag and Bone Man
• nice : drucifer
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  I've been wanting to get a hedgehog for a while now, but they're illegal in CA :( Maybe I should do a Las... : SnakeIRye
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    They are illegal to own in California as well so boarder patrol might take it away at the checkpoint! : Galadriel07
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      I know how to get around those checkpoints. : SnakeIRye
      • ATTN: MINORITIES!: Make SnakelRye your friend. : mlev
• Why would they not dress him up as sonic. : JohnnyRey
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  a pet hedgehog? : moshman
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    Yeah I've never heard of keeping a hedgehog as a pet before. My parents have one living in their garde... : peanut-
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      Really? They became the "latest fad" in unusual pets back in the mid-1990s. : Bold
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        Haven't they been around as pets a lot longer in the UK? : sweat
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          Quite probably, but their popularity really took off the mid-1990s, at least in the US. : Bold
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            I wonder why..... : StuMan1337
            • See, that's the weird thing: I used to make Sonic comments to hedgehog owners, and most had no clue who "... : Bold
    • I had a friend that had a pet albino hedgehog. She found it across the street from a pet store and decide... : ArcKnight
• lol : lord_omega
• Very cute! : helvetica
• i miss my hedgehog. :[ : m0rfus
• It's funny because hedgehogs are nocturnal. (yeah I just read the wikipedia article on hedgehogs :( ) : nyranger66
• That's is incredible. : plunkymeadows
• That rules. : action wombmate
• those eyes look like they were glued on i love it : jono181
• so awesome :D : halophoenix
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  WELL!?? I'M WAITING! : edgewise
  • It's only a matter of time. : action wombmate
  • Haha. Thankfully this statement has yet to be made in reply to a NWS post. : pigvomit
  • Look how he jumps when anyone posts a picture anymore. : cerealSAM2
  • need photoshop template material : [7]kami
  • * S T O C K H O L M S Y N D R O M E ' D * : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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    ok then http://www.shackpics.com/files/hedgehogbysparkly_c7wtt60ivtvvveiuea54.jpg : rock elf
    • FLY, YOU FOOLS! : Godhatesfatpeople
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    If you say so: http://www.shackpics.com/files/1255902758532_cd60f_16pt71uarik32dadlshy.jpg : angrytaxman
    • finally! poor edgewise couldn't hold out much longer : Postal
  • you are encouraging halfassed shoops >:| : yakz
  • The meme was retired once ThomW posted the pic yesterday. It's better to go out on top rather than fade a... : Prozium
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    How about this one Edgewise? http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=HampsterEdgewise_sim5sqizz26wguu... : pigvomit
    • haha that is fucking foul : Godhatesfatpeople
    • So cute! : tinfoilhatter
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      hahahaha, that is so awesome. : MagicWishMonkey
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        You should have named it "Hedgewise" : MagicWishMonkey
        • Yeah, I should have. A much better fit. I forgot it was a hedgehog. : pigvomit
    • haha : GloriousCow
    • well played sir : Clay
    • so, so awesome. : yakz
    • Oh mannnnn nice. Well played. : five_percent
    • hahaha :D : stelth
    • truly impressive : opengl128
    • bwahahah he looks like an Ewok. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      haha, well done! : action wombmate
      • Although if I saw that thing in my house I would kill it with righteous vengeance. : action wombmate
    • I hope these never end : sanchez
    • lol... That's great : Shadowdane
    • oh dear lord lol : prime8
    • brilliant! : eldiablo01
    • Still good. : Danny5225
    • ROFL, holy shit that is perfect. : iamgoat
    • LOL : creep
    • brilliant : ass-street
    • I can't stop laughing. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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      I'm predicting this as the peak of the trend, with all other photoshops going downhill from here : sammyl
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        that's what we were saying about it after ThomW's rock band post : Clay
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          I think he was well aware of that, read the wiki. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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            indosaurus wrote the thing on the wiki, then did the Miss USA photoshop an hour or so later. lol : ThomW
            • It mean it's pretty much phrased like a running gag. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • haha well done... wasn't what I was expecting :D : cap n KRUNCH
    • I didn't think it could be done well, too obvious. I was wrong. : Serpico74
    • omg that's one of the funniest things I've seen on the shack. looool. : whodares
    • I am ambivalent about sucking your blood. : aeg1x
    • Count Dracura is not amused. : Jumperus
    • Oh shit 2XLOL : Lightzout
    • Hahaha : bolneze
    • Holy shit : notd665
    • wow, that is well done good sir : pharom
    • outstanding : pyide
    • oh wow, awesome. : Scotty22
    • glorious : mrvandelay
    • lol, i wish i didn't have a cough now... the pain : delataur
    • Awwwwwww he's so cute. : NastyJack
    • Excellent! : dmason
    • well played. well fucking played. : synapse19
    • This meme is still funny : MercFox1
    • hahahahhahahahaa : Maddog_Delphi97
    • one of the best ever : baconisgod
    • Great, now I'm gonna have nightmares about Hedgewise instead of Jake Busey. I'm not sure which is worse. : TheMonkeyWench
    • That is awesome : TheArtMan
    • amazing LOL : bling1bling
    • lol. Edgewise, get this printed out, and frame it in your clinic and tell your patients that dressed up a... : SirX
    • Edgewise, you have not answered me. :( : pigvomit
    • oh god yes. : dahanese
    • Haha, perfect Edgehog. : magistersmax
    • This meme is like the gift that keeps on giving. Just when you think it's reached its peak, it orgasms a... : SolrFlare
    • holy facebook profile picture. Amazing. : edgewise
    • Bwahahahaha : thetangent
    • laughing from the future. : Rigg5
• Hahahaha, that's FANTASTIC. : felicia
• Epic. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• amazing! : mmaster_pw
• Very cute! : mathyou
• Ready to suck bitches dry : Godhatesfatpeople
• zomg : jessipoo
• OMG I have to send that to everyone I know. : Lightzout
• Haha that is great : khaosman
• Vampire hedgehog vs pirate peegs? Go! : bolneze
• That is hilarious! : dmason
• lol : Mmmmmoo
• I totally read "vampire" as "vagina" : Vangoghs Ear

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• as a parent, i give you full marks : Deathlove
• This seems like a Dexter episode. The Bay Harbor Butcher only kills bad people. : jcrockerman
• Get ready for the green poop tears : railchu
• You should dress up like Lucky and barge in her room with a huge knife. : MagicWishMonkey
• It's because he's a ginger. : trove
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  Be sure to sprinkle some marshmellow moons and stars around her pillow so she knows lucky was watching he... : tinfoilhatter
  • hahahahah : MagicWishMonkey
  • I lol'd so much at this : Home Nugget
  • Haha bad but entertaining parent : bolneze
  • lol : Mansmells
  • you have to do this!! : Demius
  • oh fuck this is terrible but hilarious : MercFox1
  • haha brilliant. do this : AllYourBase
  • This is a great idea, it would reinforce the idea that Lucky doesn't eat people! He left the marshmallow... : Sapiens
  • buahahaaa! oh man, I'm totally the person who'd do this with glee : niceguynick
  • This would be AWESOME! : thetangent
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  Throw cousin in dumpster. Problem solvéd! : ieatpubes
  • Oh wait, you solved it in a grown-up manner? Boring :( : ieatpubes
• No, no... he only eats people who eat Lucky Charms. : cerealSAM2
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  You gave her sugar at night? : kramweil
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    My parents gave my sister and I hot chocolate before bed every night growing up. It never kept us up and ... : mysled
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      No, it is easy to see with my kids the impact it has, but we hardly ever give them sugar type things. Cho... : bombay
      • Weird. We never got any sugar but the hot chocolate, but maybe because it was so routine our bodies didn'... : mysled
      • yea thats kinda why they go thru the roof though. : sleepyvt
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        She's pretty mellow in general and the sugar doesn't seem to be bother her as she's still asleep. Not ... : cetra00
        • i guarantee you her parents just bought her a box or two and now will have to eat it themselves :D : Demius
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        Proven completely untrue, sugar in no way makes kids hyperactive. Not best source I know, but the orig... : locater16
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          From this it is not proven at all, just not settled. I can see it my kids, and it is not related to pa... : bombay
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            No, that's your own bias. From the link: if the parents think their child has had sugar, they often pe : Bold
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              Nope, never told them anything about, the scenarios described don't fit what we've seen. : bombay
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                You've conducted double-blind studies with your children, to eliminate your own bias as an observer? H... : Bold
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                  The study I am reading right now says the reaction is caused by an increase in blood sugar that occurs to... : bombay
                  • But what reaction? There's the obvious reaction caused by food with a high glycemic load--increase in blo : Bold
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          Also http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/2747/does-giving-sweets-to-kids-produce-a-sugar-rush ht... : airrob
          • Conclusion from the last link, which is from The Journalism of the American Medical Association: "The ... : airrob
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        No, this myth HAS been disproven in multiple studies. Sugar does NOT make children hyperactive. But telli : Bold
        • ok, good to know. : bombay
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          Is there any link between other ingredients such as food colourings and artificial flavours and hyperacti... : DrZettl
          • Caffeine I'd guess. : code-e255
  • Considering the sugar high is a myth for normal children, why not? : LeapingFool
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  Put the box on your head, barge in the room with a flashlight. : sukabljat
  • lmfao there needs to be a video of it though. : notdeadyeti
  • Box on your head? super lol! : Amandies
  • lol; if she wasn't so soft spoken and girly I would consider this. But I'm pretty sure this is something... : cetra00
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  I know what you're dressing up for Holloween! http://www.foureyesjokeshop.com/luckycharmsleprechaunadulth... : JT
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    No wait I think you can do more damage in this one. NWS for slut in lucky charm costume http://www.toysru... : JT
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      Daaaaamn. She can steal MY yellow moon any day... : Bold
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        No, wait--I have a better come-on line: "Daaaaamn. Now SHE is magically delicious!" : Bold
        • yeah, 2nd one was better! : Demius
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      Isn't NWS and Toys R Us a contradiction in terms? : Waverider
      • We need to revert back to christian values!! Toys R Us is perverting our youth!!! /s : jcrockerman
• I bet the marketing fag that came up with it didn't have kids. : [7]kami

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• George Bush Developers dont care about black people gamers : EricZBA
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  VAC instead of PB is good is it not? : Cihte
  • Valve Anti-Cheat over Punkbuster? I think that's a great thing. : The Grolar Bear
  • I don't care if one of the bullet points were: IW will rape your dog Dropping PB for VAC is awesome... : coyoterys
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    I hope it means anyone vac banned in HL/Source engine games will be banned from MW2. : Beady
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      It does, unless they are making changes specifically for MW2. VAC standing applies to your entire Steam ... : Sapiens
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        woh that's harsh : Cihte
        • It's a pretty good deterrent IMO. Sure there are people so insistent on cheating that they just make a n... : Sapiens
      • This is not true, it bans you by engine type, i.e. if you get banned in CS:S you're banned in all Source ... : deject
  • yeah seeing how with PB, your shit would just stop working unless you knew to download the updater from t... : dantastic
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  Does full integration into Steam mean retail copies will register on Steam? If so, rad : veras
  • Probably released on Steam at launch, which is awesome. : freakynipples69
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  Fucking Infinity Ward ruining the CoD series. Why do they even let anyone other than Treyarch make those ... : roushimsx
  • ...I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. : beanman101283
  • your being sarcastic, right? : JohnnyRey
  • wait wait... what? Am I living in the alternate universe here? This post would only make sense there. : TPSReport
  • are you serious? : maulla
  • ...very subtle. I like it! :D : mn3m0n1c
  • look how wrong you are : DonarUDL
  • haha, nice! : Sumantro
  • sell me your demon souls : herradura99
  • LOL, good work! Laughing much here. : geneshifter
  • Hilarious, would lol again. : abovedefault
  • Good troll, world troll again! : Big Luke
  • All of the CoD games were sub-par compared to the MOHAA series back in the day. Modern Warfare was good b... : sanchez
  • lol, nice : lightly inclined
  • i pressed the lol button for this. : .ka`boom.zZz.
• Most of that doesn't seem bad...? : ConfusedUs
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  No dedicated servers = no buy, for me. : mathyou
  • Yeah for me aswell. But i really don't belive that a developer like IW would do something like this. IF i... : exmx
• What. : Creepin_Jeezus
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  a bunch of those sound like good things... : derelict515
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    Yea, I don't get the complaining. : roushimsx
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      Bad: No dedicated servers No MW2 Mods IWnet servers only Pay DLC on the PC Good: DLC on the PC R... : LoioshDwaggie
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        Big deal, it'll be just like the console version but with m+kb control and run in higher resolutions. ... : roushimsx
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          Mods are usually pretty important for competitive play. I'm sure that every iteration has had some mod u... : excitebike111
          • But I don't know this doesn't seem legit to me. Just seems that some of this stuff wouldn't make sense t... : excitebike111
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        paying for DLC isn't PC owners getting screwed. you have to pay for it on the console already. : dantastic
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          All COD4 DLC was free for PC gamers. : carbontree
          • only because they didn't have a mode of distribution for it like XBL or PSN does. you were lucky to get ... : dantastic
        • Honestly, DLC isn't so bad for me as long as its on steam. It can get pretty ridiculous buy a single DLC ... : fadetofunk
        • Yeah, but mod and mapper makers put out their own DLC. The keep the game fresh for me. Map makers as a ... : EnderWigginDA
      • If I can't play a server where the fucking repeated air strike is removed, I won't be wasting my money on... : ShadowRam
• If there isn't dedicated servers, I'm really not interested anymore. CoD4 has awesome multiplayer, I was ... : Durajim
• I seriously doubt the no dedicated servers bit. I would be surprised to say the least. Most of the other ... : rmjackson
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  The only real point I see in there that "ruins" multiplayer is no dedicated hosting and the bit about ad-... : R@zzle
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    Also, I only ever play at LAN parties anyway and Ia ssume that'll still work fine. : node
    • Yeah, it sounds like there are just no user-run dedicated servers, and that IW has full control over the ... : Sapiens
  • Think about players that aren't near IWNet servers... like the whole of Australia? : dafugg
• So.. it's the same as the console version? : walker270
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  cool, no dedicated servers, that'll go over well. : contentious roy
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    the operation flashpoint 2 players have been furious about this, their forums aint no happy place : niceguynick
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      What would the possible motivation for no dedicated servers be? Is it an anti-piracy measure? : Lightzout
      • More dev control over the end-user experience? : Cygnus X-1
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  "IWnet servers will host multiplayer" i thought i would get this game for 360 -- i just switched TO pc... : nova_x
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    Not really... Removing user run dedicated servers will kill a lot of communities' interests in the game. ... : R@zzle
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      oh boo hoo : nova_x
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        when you're not part of the "community" -- the only thing the community means is a bunch of cliques that ... : nova_x
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          I feel bad for you that you don't know what an honest community is, but you should probably go do some mo... : R@zzle
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            oh i'm not condemning anything i'm just not a part of it there are some people who choose to be and... : nova_x
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              How is the inability of those who make themselves a part of a gaming community (not unlike the shack) to ... : R@zzle
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                for a "pubbie" like myself... the advantages are obvious: for one, i'd rather have iw administrate my ... : nova_x
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                  You can decide if you play there or not. Just disconnect if you don't like the server. Find a handful o... : EnderWigginDA
                  • the stock game is the game that i purchased and want to play not some variant thereof with a bunch of... : nova_x
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        Something tells me that perhaps these "power tripping admins" you speak of probably aren't so much that s... : R@zzle
        • oh noes my point of view is different : nova_x
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        having a bunch of mods that make playing on each different server different also sucks too playing cod... : nova_x
        • The reason why I love dedicated servers is that you can make 1 or 2 your favorite and keep playing with t... : razlebol
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        You'll be crying when the community dries up and disappears when the next flavor of the week comes along.... : trove
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          oh this happens to all games to some degree or another regardless : nova_x
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            Except CoD 4, which is still going strong on the PC. : LoioshDwaggie
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              and if these changes are enough to make the biggest MP game of the year fade away in a matter of weeks th... : derelict515
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                We appreciate good servers with good admins. That's why we all play on shack servers for our multiplayer ... : LoioshDwaggie
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                  And if you play in a party on XBL with shackers (and obviously the same is technically possible on PC) th... : derelict515
                  • the only problem with matchmaking is 1. I love killing noobs 2. there is an added depth of strategy wh... : Chandler55
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                    the same thing is far from acomplished. First off and correct me if i'm wrong, but xbl party groups are l... : theWhite
                    • I'm pretty sure the party size is the same as the game size. You could have a 16 person Halo 3 party and ... : derelict515
                    • You can host private matches. Games are limited to teams of 6 to 9 players, so you don't need parties ... : Avatar
      • What a well-reasoned argument you make there, nova_x : master_disaster_17
  • This is a genuine concern. The main reason i still play TF2 is because i stumbled upon a server full of a... : Creepin_Jeezus
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  If it means less cheating, I'm all for these changes. : herradura99
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    None of those things will make much difference in reducing cheaters. : alias
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      If anything it will mean it will be harder to get rid of cheaters, since administrative controls seem to ... : R@zzle
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        let us weep for the ever vigilant PC server admins who did so much to curb cheating on PC while it was pr... : derelict515
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          lol : nova_x
          • i get the feeling r@zzle's an admin or is tight with one/some and is therefore the only one here on the s... : nova_x
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          Shrug, my TF2 community puts a high standard on fair play and maintaining fun for everyone playing, as su... : R@zzle
          • it's not about why you play games, it's about the fact that servers like that are extremely uncommon, con... : derelict515
        • My brother gets banned from CoD4 servers regularly because admins think he must be cheating. : Avatar
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    Booo guess I can't run a shack server... : Alco23
    • that will be empty after 2months? its alright... : HisKillSkill
• I'll play the SP and pbly bother with the MP for a day like I did with MW1 : Mr. Goodwrench
• Question: Why would they run their own servers, thus costing them money and pissing off their own custome... : locater16
• Good thing I'm only interested in the single player. : thrallie200
• the only downers for me on this list are the lack of dedicated servers and forced matchmaking. : harold.johnson
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  Why is everybody so butt-hurt about this? This is how it's been on XBL. I don't see any lack of community... : coldfusioncs
  • ah yes... a man that gets it : nova_x
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    PC gamers are not 360 gamers, that's the difference. We, as PC gamers do not want the same setup that co... : Zips
    • don't speak for all pc gamers now : nova_x
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      can someone remind me of all the super great and popular CoD4 mods on PC? Because I've never heard of a s... : derelict515
      • There are a few nice ones...like paintball, tactical realism, BTD zombies, pro mod. There are also a ton... : tfsbrian
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      Did CoD:MW have a particularly strong mod community (I ask this question honestly, I'm not making any poi... : coldfusioncs
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        There's some third party zombie mode, a bit like the CS one, for CoD:MW : crummynz
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          That's it? That's what everybody's so upset about? The "rich mod community" IW will surely destroy? : coldfusioncs
          • noone cares about mods, its the dedicated server thingy : Chandler55
    • You have quakelive. shut up. : freakynipples69
    • I weep for you : pancake humper
    • what the christ are you talking about : dewdman
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    Sounds fine to me, dont see why people feel so entitled to mod/edit everything. If it limits cheating, th... : kelerian
    • I had the game since release and came across less than a dozen hackers in the whole 300+ hours I put into... : tfsbrian
    • unless you played on a well server that had a quality group of admins that kept the riff-raff out. : dedgecko
  • This is PC though, the freedom to choose which server you want to play on. Being in Seattle, i mostly jo... : Iwannaacura
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    It's about customizability though, its one of the keys for PC gaming though. Also with IW in control o... : stgdz
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      First of all, this is all speculation. Second, what kind of customizability are you looking for that you'... : coldfusioncs
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        custom maps. restricted weapons (I play on a Bolt-Only Sniper server mostly); restricted perks (admins wh... : Cihte
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          I don't understand this mentality at all. You're playing a game that demands your attention and fast refl... : coldfusioncs
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            Plus, I'm gonna go so far as to say that for most shooters, 4/5 of all the custom maps are complete garba... : coldfusioncs
            • Yes, but good dedicated servers will weed out those 4/5 bad maps. : Cihte
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            Oh God, please don't defend Martyrdom. It was only added in the first place to make people who are bad fe... : Cihte
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              Actually, you can defend it. I don't really care. Point is: without Dedicated Servers a lot of people wou... : Cihte
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                I'm not defending, I'm just saying I don't understand why everybody pisses and moans so much about it. Wh... : coldfusioncs
                • I don't ever have a problem getting killed by Martyrdom from enemies - what pisses me off is when teammat... : ArcKnight
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              at least last stand requires you to aim and shoot at someone. All martyrdom rewards you with is for sucki... : -=kodiak=-
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                The problem I have with Last Stand is mostly that other playesr can steal your kill. If you're sniping so... : Cihte
                • that wasnt a problem in W@W with the assist scoring system. in that situation, you wont get a full 10 ... : -=kodiak=-
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          have you ever played Halo? You can have plenty of game mode/weapon/map customization without dedicated se... : derelict515
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            Nope. Never played Halo. : Cihte
            • Modifying existing maps: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Forge In multiplayer you have control over the gam... : derelict515
  • Because part of the reason I love PC multiplayer is dedicated servers with a good ping that I can always ... : Vincent Grayson
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    Take TF2 for example. 50% of its players actually play on servers that are modified. Instant respawn, ... : Beady
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      you have some data for that? : derelict515
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        Well, this is a highly imprecise measurement, but I just looked up the current player count for TF2 (http... : Felraiser
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          ok, but that's not the kind of modification I would call very interesting. People were complaining that t... : derelict515
          • Yeah, I'm not anywhere near a fan of big player counts. Just giving you some "data." : Felraiser
  • because XBL sucks and nobody wants PC gaming to be more like XBL gaming : kill9
• Will not buy. : dmason
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  lol : InfoBiter
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    ^^ typing only lol in a comment should autonuke + ban for 30. : Cygnus X-1
    • lol : zombie man
    • But he typed lolspacespace : OmegaRed59
    • would "haha i think this is funny" really be any better? : Sapiens
    • felicia would never post again : aeg1x
• Certainly a few of those kill of any sort of organized games, but the removal of Punkbuster should be reg... : alias
• ooh nice, glad to see they are earning that extra $10 price increase on the pc platform! : smacknca
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  now that i think about it, if there's no dedicated server, this game is already dead at lan parties. ad-... : harold.johnson
  • not when the netcode is properly written : Yanks
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    i wonder if harold here really knows what a dedicated server is if he wants one so bad just have one p... : nova_x
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      But you wouldn't even be able to do that with these features of COD:MW2. I'm not sure you know what a ded... : Felraiser
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        i'm pretty sure you'll be able to... it says there are ad-hoc servers the semi-capable part was just a... : nova_x
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          Those persons are our only source for this info, right? Do you distrust the entirety of the information? : Felraiser
          • well they don't elaborate on how exactly the adhoc mode is semi-capable so i'm just going to disregard it... : nova_x
        • And a dedicated server is more than a little different from an ad-hoc game. Given the "semi-capable" line... : Felraiser
      • It came up in the podcast, there was uncertainty if you will be able to do it or not. : megarust32
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      i don't think you know what you're talking about. you should try firing up a 3d game over RDP. it doesn... : harold.johnson
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        LOL you're telling me you rdp in to control your dedicated servers lolol i dont know what the kids pla... : nova_x
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          listen servers are usually spawned inside the process of the hosts game. if it's a separate program runn... : harold.johnson
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            not really sure what that has to do with running a 3d game over rdp still : nova_x
            • You can't give admin to someone else on a listen server, so if you want to change variables you either ha... : ArcKnight
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              for having remote control over the server. you don't have remote control over listen servers. instead o... : harold.johnson
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                I like how he thinks you don't know what a dedicated server is when he really doesn't have any idea what ... : OmegaRed59
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                  it got to the point where i gave up trying to show him the difference and moved on from the thread. he fe... : harold.johnson
                  • oh funny : nova_x
                • i'm sure you guys all know what a dedicated server is i'm just not sure you guys can adapt to the cons... : nova_x
          • btw they could still allow an rcon type command on a listen server... no reason why they couldnt that'... : nova_x
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      "if he wants one so bad just have one pc run the game, set up a server, have that pc go spectator mode" ... : Sapiens
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        oh really i didn't know that lol tell me what my suggestion doesn't allow compared to a traditional... : nova_x
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          A dedicated server is one that runs as a console (text) window, managing all of the client connections, i : Sapiens
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            with the graphics, without the graphics bla bla bla the end result is still the same the real point of... : nova_x
            • harold.johnson was right, it's not even worth trying with you : Sapiens
• fuck that what a pile of shit (probably over-reaction here) : PointlesS76
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  Code tags need a word wrap badly. : alias
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    you just need a bigger monitor :p : derelict515
    • iPhone :( : doomed
  • Not really. People just need to learn how to properly use the code tag or not use it at all. I could s... : SilverSnake
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  This is actually a good thing. Full integration with Steam, NO PB!!!!!!!!!!!, matchmaking system that is ... : freakynipples69
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    there is a lot to complain about. they're kicking the modding community out and saying they want the mon... : harold.johnson
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      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21171767#itemanchor_21171767 : alias
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        i play on modded servers all the time. they aren't saying a mod like day of defeat, they're talking abou... : harold.johnson
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          i can guarantee you iw wont shut down fact is the loss of a couple hardcore "community" guys like your... : nova_x
          • no, if its a multiplayer game that has zero possibility of good play at a lan party, i have no reason to ... : harold.johnson
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        But this also means no community maps (which is good for them, because they won't have competition for th... : Cihte
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          This is a legitimate complaint for sure. Unfortunately, the majority of custom maps are trash. Occasion... : alias
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            But when you find a good server populated by regular members, the tendency is for that server to only car... : Cihte
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              and 95% of people won't ever find that server because all they do is server hop : derelict515
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                If IW believed that 95% of the people didn't care what server they played on, I don't think they would ha... : Cihte
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                  if they're removing dedicated servers and using matchmaking instead I think that's a pretty clear indicat... : derelict515
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                    How do you know? It seems just as probable, if not more so, that the overall intent of these changes is t... : Felraiser
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                      Well, my answer is logical, and yours doesn't really follow. IW studies the average player experience ... : derelict515
                      • I'm not saying they couldn't release DLC, but paid DLC is more difficult to pull off if players have the ... : Felraiser
                    • Its not for DLC. : Avatar
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              the simple fact is that stock servers are the best servers and now all servers will be stock so all... : nova_x
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                I said it. It doesn't need to die. It's fun. : Cihte
                • Not to mention the RP servers. This completely removes any chance of ever having a fun RP experience. : Cihte
• This all sounds very unlikely : deKaf
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  Gross! They're no doubt using that GOD AWFUL FUCKING SHITTY L4D matchmaking system. Fuck. No. : retarded talking dinosaur
  • Pretty sure they'll use their own matchmaking : megarust32
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  The only problem I see is paying for the DLC when we are already having to pay $10 extra for the version. : NFXFSX
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    ^^ This. That's the only thing that bothered me in that last as well. Okay and the lack of being able to ... : yacoub35
    • last/list : yacoub35
• Short end? Looks like they're getting what the consoles are getting. : Anastomosis
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  Was going to pre-order this. Guess I will have to get L4D 2 instead. /facepalm : Nighthawk0110
  • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21171697#itemanchor_21171697 : derelict515
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  It looks like IW is going to make the game a very consistent experience between the three major platforms... : sukabljat
  • agreed. : nova_x
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    PC Gamers! We want developers to spend resources catering directly to our niche market. Oh, and we wo... : walker270
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      Bullshit. We want dedicated servers that we can set up and configure on our own. The way it should be. ... : Pneum0
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        again, you can allow plenty of customization without having dedicated servers. They're not intertwined as... : derelict515
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          50 player servers. Oh really, how's that going to work on a non-dedicated server? : carbontree
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            is CoD4 designed for 50 person games? No. Try again. In fact, go make a list of all the shooters in re... : derelict515
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              I played 50 person COD4 all the time back in the day. It was chaotic and awesome. The larger servers were... : carbontree
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                sorry I can't really shed a tear for not being able to play unbalanced multiplayer modes that a minority ... : derelict515
                • You didn't listen to the stream at all did you? They spent A LOT of EXTRA time on this. Using the standar... : Printmatic
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      Console Gamers! We refuse to accept the obvious differences between our mediums of play and expect PC : R@zzle
      • Who said anything close to that? Developers are going to first create a game for their target audience. ... : walker270
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    Are console games able to play together vs PC gamers? I'm guessing no so what's the point? : sanchez
    • Externally: provide a better out of the box multiplayer experience for the non-hardcore crowd Internal... : derelict515
• Robert Bowling stated they're doing this to try and make the experience better for the end user, hopefull... : megarust32
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  Nothing really seems to bother me on this list, seems alright but with the exception of the dedicated ser... : moe6
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    I'm sure you can still set up passworded or friends-list/group protected games, they are just hosted at I... : qsylvr
    • Hm, that's not where I wanted this reply to go, oops. : qsylvr
• No dedicated servers = No sale for me. At least at full price, may as well wait for a sale if the MP is ... : Pneum0
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  Awesome! Worst part about COD4 is all the fucking retarded server rules people impose. : Poor Yurik
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    Don't hop. : Cihte
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      No shooting walls! No tubes! None of the perks I don't like! No calling airstrikes without permission! : Poor Yurik
      • NO PERKS CUZ THAZ CHEATIN U FGT LAST STAND MFER I KILT U DED : yacoub35
    • I'd be happy if bunny hoppers were penalized with massive random spray aim. : Fred Garvin
  • I like the hardcore realism ones. No running unless you're going to place to place, always be crouching, ... : crummynz
  • What, you couldn't find one out of 17000 servers that fit what you liked? What a fucking joke. : MercFox1
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  If Blizzard can run their own servers for Diablo, WoW, etc. I don't see why IW can't run their own server... : nudel
  • Those server uses are very different in scale. Also, no one's said IW can't do anything. They have ev... : Felraiser
  • Because some people (myself included) like being able to pick from a variety of servers with a variety of... : Vincent Grayson
• Please use the quote tags instead of the code ones next time. Those two long sentences at the top get cut... : Mmmmmoo
• Short end of the stick? It's the same stick. : kingdepork
• I wonder if the price on COD4 will go down now. Not that I'd buy it. : JediDwag
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  Until there is a press release from Activision, I don't believe it. : jermm
  • The podcast was with the creative strategist at Infinity Ward. It'd be better to listen to what he says ... : megarust32
• Awesome on VAC instead of PB and full Steam integration - that probably means all the people getting reta... : xsoulbrothax
• I'll have to wait and see how this is going to work out but for now Im just going to LOL. Not a first day... : Cashh
• If you listen to the podcast, this doesn't sound too bad to me. : Wisp!
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  No dedicated servers? and 60 bucks? F that. : tree8
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    IW will host all servers for all platforms. It will keep a very consistent CoD experience. : sukabljat
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      If I wanted that I'd get it on a console. : tree8
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        I'm guessing that IW wants complete control for servers, mods, protection, DLC, etc. PC users probably a... : sukabljat
        • Not vocal enough apparently. : tree8
        • I'd reckon it's more Activision influenced than Infinity Ward. : Cihte
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  This is excellent overall. Kudos to IW for not capitulating to a PC market that doesn't know what it want... : dewdman
  • "PC market that doesn't know what it wants" Maybe its you who doesn't understand the PC market. I think... : TheEmissary
  • The phrase "PC Elitist" is ridiculously lame : Cihte
• I seriously can't believe that anyone would support these decisions. MORE control over your game is good.... : sanchez
• Pretty soon they'll take away keyboard support and you'll have to play it with a controller. : thecatinthehat
• What a joke. There's no way this will stand without them getting a TON of crap for it. : lectR
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  That kind of sucks, after playing WaW on the 360 I was kind of psyched for MW2 on the pc. But if I have t... : AgentPothead
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    Yeah the people defending matchmaking here boggle my mind. I've had bad experiences with them every time... : tree8
    • I tried to play some free for all the other day with a friend of mine. We couldn't join in as a group bec... : AgentPothead
• Accept your fate, infidels! : scener
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  Funny, they did an interview on Shacknews saying exactly the opposite: http://www.shacknews.com/featureda : SpaecKow
  • da hell. lol. that was less than a month ago, too. : Cihte
• Not happy about the price, but I have some Bing Cashback due about then so I'll try it out without any re... : RookieCAF
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  thats a good news. full integration of steam means you dont need to install that xfire crap to join y... : HisKillSkill
  • That last line is incredibly insolent. There's no need to fuck over competitive gamers by not having dedi... : Wisp!
  • how bout you buy some legos if you want to just fuck around? Or watch a movie if you want a cool story? ... : MamiyaOtaru
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  1) Having no dedicated Shack servers sucks. 2) FPS gaming has officially been turned over to pussies a... : RyDogg1
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    I agree on both counts. Console shooters are weak sauce. I really don't know what to look forward to on t... : Dr_Cube
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      natural selection 2 : HisKillSkill
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        This should be awesome and I hope we get a shack server for it. : thecatinthehat
        • I'm sure we will, there are plenty of NS players here :) : sanchez
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      Waiting to see how Battlefield bad Company 2 turns out on the PC. Since it appears we're not getting a BF... : carbontree
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        Yup. 360 or PC for me. Still deciding which. Gameplay looks good. Love the environmental devastation, but... : Dr_Cube
        • BF1943 on the PC will have higher player counts than the console version. Hopefully BC2 for PC will be th... : TrptJim
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      BRINK : datoo
      • ^^ i'm very curious about this one. : dirge23
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    I can't believe the no dedicated servers part because Art of War Central just emailed me the other day ab... : AgentPothead
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      "You're completely reliant on IWNet and there is no dedicated server or server list. You rely on IW Net : Cihte
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        Then what the frak are AoWC renting? That seems like a pretty big ball to drop to start renting servers t... : AgentPothead
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          It's just like putting out preorders for Vaporware. They do it because people will give them money. Some ... : carbontree
          • I am afraid that carbontree's logic holds water, AgentPothead. Whomever was selling those slots was proba... : Dr_Cube
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    that is ridiculous. pc gaming has always had cheaters and random-ass dedicated servers with bad rules/map... : JINKY
    • Do you even game on the PC, JINKY? Dedicated servers and the communities that coalesce around them are on... : Dr_Cube
    • cheaters are pretty much nonexistent on servers with admins , and matchmaking you kind of lose the commun... : Chandler55
    • Matchmaking can serve as a league system, but it's certainly not the only way to do it, and it's definite... : Felraiser
• If this is true then you PC players just got owned...hard. I am a PC gamer but with CoD4 I knew that this... : Dr_Cube
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  That's it. March 2011 purchase for me. : the archvile
  • ...if at all. At this point, there's no use playing multiplayer, since I can't trust IW to not screw up ... : the archvile
  • Pre-Order = Cancelled : Wyvern
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  Kotaku AU has a story on it: http://www.kotaku.com.au/2009/10/new-modern-warfare-matchmaking-service-wil : the archvile
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    modding is basically about the only advantage to PC gaming anymore (well depending on platform kbm is sti : MamiyaOtaru
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      I hope somebody asks him that specifically. "Do you WANT everyone to buy the console version instead of : the archvile
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        No, they want you to buy the xbox version. special edition(s), custom MW2 themed xbox system, etc, etc... : dangerdoggie
        • and their DLC : i poop from there
• this rubs me the wrong way and i didnt even plan on buying the game : i poop from there
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  Le Sigh. If I wanted matchmaking I'd play MW2 on my Xbox. I think I'll pass on MW2. : Evil Furby
  • I have no issue with match making as long as they give me the option to use a server browser also... but ... : valael
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  Another thing that concerns me is a lot of the servers I play on have strict etiquette guidelines. They h : Cihte
  • what would irk me is the no mod support. no new maps. pay for DLC to get new maps. which, doesnt sit we... : i poop from there
• the only real concern i have here is whether or not IW will be hosting the servers or whether they'll all... : nova_x
• Well, that is exciting and disappointing at the same time. How long until we see an "IWnetD"-like serv... : MercFox1
• So basically Robert Bowling lied his ass of when interviewd by Shack about a month ago. When asked about ... : VisitorQ
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  LOL I weep for the end of PC FPSes as we know it. Now the only thing separating us from the consoles ... : TheStupidOne
  • yeah, I still play UT. Which is more than I'll be able to say for MW2 : MamiyaOtaru
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  The good -VAC (no more Punk Buster issues and bullshit). -Steam integration (easy patching). The bad : MeestaNob
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    Would you/did you buy the CoD5 DLC? : crummynz
    • No. Didn't play CoD5 though. : MeestaNob
    • I didn't. It wasn't anything huge, otherwise there would be a "OMG this is so awesome" reaction from the... : the archvile
    • i did 4 maps per pack for 10 dollars : dantastic
    • Pretty sure CoD5 DLC was all free on PC : R@zzle
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    CoD4 DLC was new maps and not just a new gun though. : derelict515
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      The only reason the map pack was free for COD4 was because nVIDIA stepped up and sponsored the downloads.... : greasyjohn
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        Funny thing is, with mod support even if the dev is full of shit and didn't do it right the community can... : TheStupidOne
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          I still think the "ruin their glorious game" excuse is a front for "reduce sales of DLC". All parties in... : the archvile
          • It's all it is, a money and power grab. The bullshit "providing an easier and more uniform experience ... : TheStupidOne
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        50 player TDM? the cod4 maps are way too small for that shit. this is why i stopped playing the pc vers... : dantastic
        • Creek isn't. : Cihte
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          I know, it's really hard to pick a server with 18 players on it. That's reason enough to switch to low re... : Wisp!
          • I always loved it, except for the fucking airstrikes and helicopters that Infinity Ward was too stupid to... : greasyjohn
  • They could get VAC and Steam integration WITHOUT forcing matchmaking. Valve has been doing it ever since... : the archvile
• Pathetic news, what the hell were Infinity Ward thinking. VAC secured is good news though. punkbuster is ... : nutcrackr
• The only issue I have with this is no dedicated servers. I'm sure Infinity Ward will cave in at some poin... : fadetofunk
• Yeah, this is crap. I hate this if it's true. Bad bad bad idea. : zipper76
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  I wonder if this is because so many server admins like to fuck-up games with unreal tournament sounds and... : Fish_Bulb
  • um no. : i poop from there
  • UNSTOPPABLE : peat
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  Sign the petition http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?dedis4mw : grabbie
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    i hope iw doesnt back down on their iwnet initiative its just too bad when people are afraid of change... : nova_x
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      I would support IWNet if it wasn't the ONLY way to play MW2 multiplayer, but that's exactly what they're ... : the archvile
      • it iwnet is good their decision to make it the only way to play mw2 is a good thing -- having two separat... : nova_x
    • I hope they do. This is a stupid idea, and it's not going to help the PC gaming community at all. : Vincent Grayson
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    I'm pimpressed that there are 30,000 signatures in less than 24 hours. : Cihte
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      i am acutally too but iw abandoning iwnet after taking all the time/effort/money to develop it and its... : nova_x
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        There's even a Steam Boycott Group with almost 500 members! http://steamcommunity.com/groups/BOYCOTTMW... : Cihte
        • lol. THE L4D COMMUNITY HAS SHOWN THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN CHANGE DIRECTORS/PUBLISHERS OPINION SO SET YO... : Durajim
      • IMO, they don't have to abandon IWNet, but they should allow connecting to a specific server, and being a... : the archvile
  • I don't think I'd ever do an online petition, even if it was for a logical cause. : kingdepork
• Maybe we could at least get a "friends only" server like l4d. : socksta
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  i don't really care about mod support, most COD4 mods fucking blew : grendel
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    Mods aren't what they used to be, but it's important that the ability to mod exists. Numerous current PC... : the archvile
    • I should also add that mods are a huge part of the CV of a prospective game development employee. I thin... : the archvile
• I hope they change their mind on the dedicated servers. That's just stupid IMO. I like the Steam integrat... : K1Bond007
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  well, I guess I'll be getting the 360 version then (used). if its true, its a damn shame as far as dlc a... : X-GOUKI
  • haha, http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21157513 'd : the archvile
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  So no more servers with stupid ass rules? Awesome. : broly1718
  • I like the server that I play on because the owner (or admins) will immediately kick someone that starts : Cihte
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    Yeah, it really sucked having a variety of options when it came to playing CoD4. I hated that so very muc... : Vincent Grayson
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      Some people hate choice simply because it allows the existence of things they don't like. : the archvile
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        I like playing cod4 6vs6 (how maps were designed to be played) everytime I feel like playing cod4. Its ve... : HisKillSkill
        • I owned both versions of CoD4, and had *WAY* more fun with the PC version where I could play the way I wa... : Vincent Grayson
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    Ya, and more ass hats that won't be kicked/banned. Great plan. : Sgt_Boomstick
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      killed the admin too much? ban use the wrong weapon? ban dont like your name? ban didnt kill eno... : broly1718
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        basically this all boils down to whether you a) are "tight" with a server and its community or b) y... : nova_x
        • Don't you remember back when the vast majority of UT2K3 servers were lowgrav instagib, and then Epic comb... : the archvile
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        Then people complain on the forums, bans get pulled, and that admin is pulled and banned. You're anecdote... : MercFox1
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          why go through this dance of going on some website forum when this shouldnt have happened in the first pl... : nova_x
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            You're biting at edge cases. His anecdotes are just that, anecdotes, and I'm pretty sure PC gamers have e... : MercFox1
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              well apparantly iw thinks otherwise and agrees with me and broly1718.. so arguing with you over the inter... : nova_x
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                If people of your train of thought really think MW2 is somehow going to change the future of PC multiplay... : MercFox1
                • Agreed; someone took a big swig of the marketing Kool-Aid. Nothing really "changes the future" anything ... : the archvile
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                  the golden age of pc multiplayer gaming was in the days of q1/2/beginning of 3 people played the game ... : nova_x
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                    if your profile ages are correct, achvile might understand what i'm getting at here but mercfox : nova_x
                    • probably wont : nova_x
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                      lol : MercFox1
                      • i do also like how you thought i was some halo3 kiddy quite the oppostie :) : nova_x
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                        I hate to pull age on you, but more than half of my now 20 years have been watching and playing PC multip... : MercFox1
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                          thats good then... hopefully you were fortunate to experience the multiplayer experience that was competi... : nova_x
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                            That stuff still exists though; force-pure CS servers and vehemently vanilla gamers. Hell, Tribes Base is... : MercFox1
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                              that's fair but for a guy that just wants a vanilla game with other vanilla gamers without being abuse... : nova_x
                              • I really don't want to have to boycott Modern Warfare 2, those new kill streak rewards, weapons, and the ... : MercFox1
                            • This is how i feel about it, there are plenty of easy ways to have vanilla servers and and even matchmaki... : RetroRedEyeJr
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                    I was playing Quake 3 with a custom HUD ( http://the_archvile.shackspace.com/q3dm17_omnova.jpg ), and now... : the archvile
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                      I should also reiterate: if it wasn't for the mod community in the late 1990's, most of the game series l... : the archvile
                      • fair points definitely. : nova_x
            • They arent thought. all those things have happend to me in just about every MP game ive played in the pa... : broly1718
  • More choice in this case is a good thing FFS : d fluke
• Jesus fuck this is terrible news. Big suck factors = no dedicated servers (Look at what that did for Op F... : Sgt_Boomstick
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  From Infiinity Wards website: "The definitive multiplayer experience returns, with a host of new perks an... : astrogiblets
  • Depends how they define "multiplayer experience"; they're probably referring to the in-game experience, a... : the archvile
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    Another little interested tidbit I found: From fourzerotwo.com: "Remember, Multiplayer has been in dev... : astrogiblets
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      They brought this on themselves. They probably did some blind surveys and case studies, but they forgot ... : the archvile
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        I hate to be the cold harsh light of reality but our demographic isn't anywhere near as large and influen... : Ajax
        • Exactly. We're not their primary customer. : ArcKnight
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        then play quakelive ? : HisKillSkill
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          quakelive is more similar to iwnet than anything else really sure the servers are run on dedicated ser... : nova_x
          • Agreed, plus it's based on a game that's already been released with no restrictions on dedicated servers,... : the archvile
      • you mean the ones who will refuse to buy the game because there aren't dedicated servers even though they... : derelict515
    • They said the same thing about CoD4 and I'm not sure I can believe it as far as the PC version goes. I th... : K1Bond007
• http://kotaku.com/5383936/fourzerotwo-modern-warfare-2-is-not-delayed-on-pc : AlexXdude
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  fine with me, I'm sure there will be an high capacity low-ping Australian server cluster lol : 60days
  • As sure as there being Modern Warfare 2 for 69 AUD lol : the archvile
• Guys, maybe they will use IW.net as a means to distribute custom content from map makers in the community... : Rice-Rocketeer
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  Slight hijack: what games were ruined when the stock gameplay wasn't stock anymore? For me: Counter-St... : sukabljat
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    Last time I played CS (source) it was on a 24/7 D2 server with no Quake sounds, no bank, and no FF. This ... : MercFox1
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      It has been far more difficult to find a stock server (with more than two maps in rotation) than a modded... : sukabljat
      • I think TF2 (having the advantage of coming later) did this right by adding Server Tags. You can see inst... : MercFox1
  • hope that there are enough servers to play on. There won't be enough. That's why I don't like having... : the archvile
• Infinity ward better fucking put a server in ohio, cuz I dont like lag. : chilln
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  Wait, timeout... does this mean im going to get this same Left4Dead bullshit server experience too? Wh... : chilln
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    This is exactly how I feel; I don't understand why so many XBoxLiveophiles have to piss all over half the... : the archvile
    • They're indoctrinated to the Halo 3 way of doing things, which is pretty fucking bad, IMO. 3 man team ... : MercFox1
• lol : Downforce
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  can someone point fourzerotwo at this abortion of a thread so we can get a bit of PR spin from IW about w... : grendel
  • this thread wouldn't be so big if there weren't people that were for these changes as well : nova_x
• This better not be true. I was going to buy this on PC, but now it looks like I might as well get it on a... : gibolas1234
• This better not be true :( : preachy
• Terrible news. :( I was going to buy it for 360 anyways, but I really hope that this doesn't become a tre... : razlebol
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  COD4: total sold 13 million+, PC 383,000+ (source: google'd) Of those, how many will care about this chan... : razorblade79
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    I question that number. Crysis never beat COD4 in the sales charts and yet went on to sell 1.5 million un... : baron calamity
    • I found no more recent numbers but even if pc sales were 2 or 3 times as high, console sales would still ... : razorblade79
    • The 383,000 figure is for US retail sales only, and does not account for online sales trough Steam and th... : evildanish
  • COD4 was one of, or perhaps THE best selling PC game of 2007, even though it launched right around the sa... : greasyjohn
• Depressing. Seriously considering cancelling my preorder and taking a wait and see approach. I have no ... : Vorlonesque
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  The amount of PC gamer hate here is sad. Servers are great. When you find 2 or 3 servers you enjoy yo... : Jimbo Ro
  • Selfish people don't think about others. If it suits them then it should be fine for everyone else. Th... : dafugg

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  I opted for Zombie Land over this, and Zombie Land was pretty fucking horrible. : skitzo
  • Zombieland is overrated. 60% is great, yet 40% fucking sucks. Intro is the best part. : TEXIT
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    what the fucking fuck : Serpico74
    • I'm so confused. : brickmatt
    • Are you upset that I chose zomble land over paranormal, or that I thought zombie land sucked. : skitzo
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      Zombie land looks pretty fucking lame if you're not a big fan of zombies. I'm sure I'll eventually watch ... : MagicWishMonkey
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        I thought it was pretty fucking hilarious, and I'm not a big zombie fan or anything. Then again everyone ... : mysled
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          I haven't seen it yet, but so many people are obsessed with zombies these days (OMG ZOMBIES, BACON, NINJA... : MagicWishMonkey
          • The zombies in Zombieland actually play a fairly small part in the movie. It uses the "zombie apocalypse... : action wombmate
          • Mmmmm Zombie Bacon. : steauengeglase
  • yeah zombie land was pretty bad : datoo
  • It had moments but I agree it wasn't that great. : fathertime
  • I wouldn't say it was horrible, it was just kind of non-memorable : mikecyb
  • Umm, what? Zombieland was pure awesome. : Milleh
• Planned on seeing it this weekend, but I have to wait till the GF gets back in town. Her orders. : TEXIT
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  or c) Has watched 20 years of monsters erupting from chests, heads getting bitten it two, and yeah, t... : freqq28
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    But none of those things are scary. : Vincent Grayson
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      Oh, come on. I enjoyed it for what it was, but it was predictable - which totally removes the scary for m... : freqq28
      • I haven't seen it yet, I'm just saying, 20 years of monster movies shouldn't change the level of scary in... : Vincent Grayson
• Yeah, it freaked me out big time. : wykd
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  it was scary, yes, but I expected them to do more stuff, like when he went up into the attic and handed t... : deathofrats
  • yeah, i was disappointed by that bit. i liked the little touch about the picture being right over where t : xsoulbrothax
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  im too much of a skeptic to be scared by anything like this. back when i loved jesus this would scare the... : mindshot
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    you dont have to believe in this stuff to find the movie scary, Im an atheist yet I can suspend my belief... : klearlyunseen
    • but can you do it for BSG? : MamiyaOtaru
  • I hate to tell you but being a skeptic doesn't make you immune to horror movies. : tree8
  • You don't have to believe in ghosts to be drawn into a strong atmosphere any more than you need to believ... : Arceihn
• Godit was fucking scary. : orgcaptainnemo
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  It's incredibly well done for the budget, but I didn't find it scary overall. Creative, yes. Original, de... : ColoradoCNC
  • Yeah, this is what I think. I liked it, but it wasn't the terrorfest they made it out to be. : freqq28
• Is it The Ring (remake) scary? Because that one was not scary at all. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• i was a little disappointed by the ending, but i also lack the imagination to think of anything better at... : spaceless
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  I guess I'm dead, because I have a pretty good imagination. : action wombmate
  • ^^^ This. I was ok with the movie until it tried to end the movie and failed miserably. It really pulle : grayscale
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  Scary movies are only scary when you are 6. After that they don't work. : eldiablo01
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    I have found that the scariness of any movie is amplified tenfold by watching it by oneself in the dark. ... : action wombmate
    • ^^^ knows how to watch scary movies. : thechunder
  • Depends how much you watch. It's very easy to become desensitised to horror films. : Arceihn
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  Demons? Yeah, that's about as scary as leprechauns or something. Scary movies need to have realistic thre... : uncleanmonkey
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    The Exorcist disagrees. WTF? : orgcaptainnemo
    • No, it doesn't. There's not a scary moment in the movie, it's all just laughable because the whole premis... : uncleanmonkey
  • That's bullshit. Proper scary movies need to be able to have you suspend belief in-spite of your own. I h : shakybonez31
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    i don't think you understand the idea of a horror movie : dirge23
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      I do, I just can't be scared if the premise is cheesy eye-rolling material. Something like Alien is fine,... : uncleanmonkey
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        My head just burst open and an alien popped out while reading that. : .sticks.
        • totally reasonable, happens all the time : skizl
      • This post is great. : kingdepork
      • Hahahaha. : ieGod
      • I think we can safely dismiss your opinion now, thanks for the clarification! : c0bra
      • If this is a troll, it's brilliant. : action wombmate
      • Yea I think the closer to being real a movie is the more it affects people. For me creepy alien shit like... : mega man
  • i don't believe in ghosts or anything supernatural but I still found the movie to be suspenseful. It's ab... : DarkDeus
  • I'd love to put you in a room with adjustable infrasound and fuck with you for a few hours. : Conan
  • Agreed. : Jiven
  • fuck this using your imagination bullshit : GloriousCow
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  Did your wife stay in the car for the whole movie? : Bold
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    I was just thinking this. One post he went inside and didn't go and the one below it says he went and lik... : Phreakin
    • Yeah, we decided to see both movies. : JohnnyRey
• I wish I just waited for it on dvd. being in the theater really ruined any potential scares. Instead I ... : choppp
• Completey agree man! : Ulfie
• http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21177745#itemanchor_21177745 : silentbobuk
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  That movie was just plain terrible. If you think that movie is scary, you are a) a sissy. : CrustaR
  • look how terribly wrong you are : JohnnyRey

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• E.T. on the 2600 was pretty awesome : lowpoly
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  Riddick : indosauros
  • Good point, definitely this. : heartsauce
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    That's not fair because Butcher Bay is completely different, The only overlap is the Riddick character in... : Shai-Tan
    • I fail to see how that isn't fair? : Halen
    • I think "based off of" implies that there's a bit of a difference from the source material. : MurrayTheSkull
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      It's basically a prequel to Pitch Dark. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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        Pitch Black yes I'm that guy : Goblin au
        • oh nice to meet you. I'm the guy that forgot the actual title. Nah, I appreciate you fixin' it. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  Spiderman : rosewood
  • Spider-man 2. 1 was ok, 3 was ok. 2 was awesome. : Korban
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  Tron 2.0 : gyokuro
  • That game was pure awesome. : timmie
  • great game : nunami
  • Tron and Tron: Deadly Discs were also awesome, too! : roushimsx
• Batman for NES, Indiana Jones on SNES, Blade Runner. : heartsauce
• i hear tron was the bomb but i never tried it : PlanetPerfecto
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  Batman AA? : aeg1x
  • although I guess that's a comic book character : aeg1x
• The Lego Star Wars and Indiana Jones games were pretty good, for what they were. The recent Ghostbuste... : BlackCat9
• Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game? : BlackCat9
• home alone street fighter: the movie : j0nchan
• I thought King Kong was pretty fun. : LeapingFool
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  Oh, Goldeneye. EOT. : BlackCat9
  • ding ding ding : nunami
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  Wolverine Origins : Gore87
  • ^^ A game that you could argue was better than the movie too. : cause&effect
• Blade Runner : dfz0r
• Super Star Wars/Super Empire Strikes Back/Super Return of the Jedi perfect translations! : OhMyHip
• Duke Nukem 3D Evil Dead :P : smax
• Goldeneye : Milleh
• Blade Runner!! : -efx-
• Tie Fighter, Dark Forces series : quadeh
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  AvP - sort of anyway. : chazums
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    came before the movie. : radula
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      Yeah but Aliens and Predator predate the game, hence the 'sort of' : chazums
      • Also Aliens vs. Predator was a comic book idea originally http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aliens_vs._Pred... : Schnapple
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      AvP 1 and 2 are Aliens + a few Predator. : Marrbe
      • I remember more Predator in AVP2 (Maybe I just played Predator the most) : Goblin au
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  I don't know if it's considered good, but Indiana Jones on the Commodore 64 was awesome. : Bamii
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    Was that Temple of Doom? I had that, I was always falling off conveyor belts : hankyJR
    • I think it was actually. All I remember is it was hard as hell for us then, but so cool because we though... : Bamii
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    Robocop2 and Navy Seals on the commodore64 were cool too : chazums
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      Batman (1989) : hankyJR
      • C64, that is : hankyJR
  • Oh and Ghostbusters for the C64 was pretty good for its time. : Tissen
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  I want a modern Last Starfighter video game, please. : theangrywaffles
  • http://www.roguesynapse.com/games/last_starfighter.php : Omaha
• Pretty much any Star Wars game released by LucasArts in the 90s. : evildanish
• Most of the good ones I can think of used movie characters, but were their own stories: Indiana Jones ... : genom
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  In addition to what's already been said... Konami's Aliens Episode 1 Pod Racer + Pod Racer Arcade Ramb... : roushimsx
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    You're a computer aren't you. : dognose
    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eA3XCvrK90 : Goblin au
• I wish there was a movie version of Robocop vs Terminator. : TrptJim
• True Lies : jnukem99

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  Speaking of retarded looking, nice cap. : boredguy
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    cape, doh : boredguy
    • Its the cloak you automatically get when you join a legion. It is awful short so at the moment it looks l... : Klebold
• It's a MegaDevilsaurzilla : Sixcos
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  the blue armor in the last shot looks fucking sweet. Its almost enough to get me into another MMO, but... : everybodysuncle
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    Not dark messiah style? Oblivion to me was a bit spammy since all i did was block, then slash constantly ... : Klebold
    • Dark Messiah style was good, and I would prefer it, but I'm setting my personal baseline at Oblivion. ... : everybodysuncle
  • More twitch based combat in an MMO would be interesting. : bolneze
• I wish they made it easier to solo. I guess its a blessing in disguise though. : bolneze
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  yup. that looks nothing like un'goro crater. how can anyone possibly say it is just another WoW ripoff? : d0pamine
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    WoW had such a wide variety of terrain styles. And can you really say that WoW was the first one to do a ... : StolenNosferatu
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      a jungle area with huge spikey t-rex's and big dinosaur skulls? srsly? : d0pamine
      • hmm.. http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?file=WoWScrnShot_101809_221713_z38r3gj6iq2y6nmo908j.jpg http://... : d0pamine
      • That's hardly an original idea. : Reeves
  • lol'd : aldraek
  • 'cause dino's in the jungle is such an original idea. : capt tripps
  • Those screenshots immediately reminded me of http://machall.com/view.php?date=2005-02-07 : reign27
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    I seriously looked at it and thought "king mosh...with horns?" I think everyone pretty much agrees tha... : halophoenix
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      In a lot of ways, it is like WoW, but with better PvP. There is more to it of course, yet it doesn't real... : Frozen Pixel
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        What the hell is TOR? : Reeves
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          Star Wars: The Old Republic : Frozen Pixel
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            oh heh. Yeah hopefully it's good. : Reeves
            • Yes, I hope so too. Not really allowing myself to get hyped about it, but I'll definitely play it even if... : Frozen Pixel
  • Land of the Lost : GloriousCow
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  I've yet to see the dinosaur.. Andre is still my favorite so far :) Andre http://reeves.shackspace.co... : Reeves
  • Also, our legions cloak. http://reeves.shackspace.com/Aion/Aion0045.jpg Not the best picture to sh... : Reeves
  • Andre looks like someone glued horns and teeth to a rotting melon. : Arcanum
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    http://reeves.shackspace.com/Aion/Aion0062.jpg looks like Orlando Bloom from Pirates of the Caribbean. : ArcKnight
    • fuck wrong pic http://reeves.shackspace.com/Aion/Aion0057.jpg : ArcKnight
  • Ahh forgot to post this one.. http://reeves.shackspace.com/Aion/Aion0033.jpg always falling off shit : Reeves
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    Is that last armor dyed or what? : bolneze
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      no it's a blue set of crafted armor :) : Reeves
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        Cool shit like that makes me want to play but the thought of grinding is =\ Soloable quests should give w... : bolneze
        • Yeah there is quite a bit more grinding in this than other MMO's.. But the combat is more fun and engagin... : Reeves
• That looks cool. Damn mmos. : RogerDandy
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  Just too bad AION was such crap. *sigh* My friend gifted the game to me on Steam when it came out and I ... : stelth
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    Really? 1-20 was pretty much chock full of stuff to do.. My biggest complaint so far is that it's not ... : Visceral Monkey
    • Opps. that's "expand on the rift pvp system" : Visceral Monkey
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      Warhammer is way funner than Aion so far : gyokuro
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        I love Aion, it's a beautiful game, but yes, warhammer is more fun. I just want to jump into pvp without ... : Visceral Monkey
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          team pvp was so fun in warhammer : gyokuro
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            It was great fun for awhile.. But the PVE just sucked after awhile, and there was absolutely no economy f... : Reeves
            • I'm not sure what you mean by items being useless. There was a huge difference between my level 31 slaye... : valael
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              You clearly never got to the end game because instance running/perm. gem creation was all people did at c... : Moonbase Commander
              • Nope, I didn't :(. I couldn't push on. And I was REALLY into the game at beta. I mean don't get me wr... : Reeves
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        A few of us tried the Aion beta and ended up giving WAR a shot after the beta closed. We stuck with WAR.... : valael
        • Oh, and I even preordered Aion. Luckily Steam will give you a one time refund. Unfortunately, I had alr : valael
  • I'm at the same point. It was fun getting to around 17, but now I'm just bored by it. : Portax
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  http://homepage.mac.com/brianluft/img/ZZ55E09C53.jpg this is why i love aion. picked up my kimono the... : electroly
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    My...thats...uh....nice. : Visceral Monkey
    • i like how detailed the gear models are. WoW models look like total shit in comparison; even the newer s... : electroly
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    is she ready for the next Miley concert? : RikiTiki2
    • I don't think they have Miley on Atreia :( : electroly
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  http://www.foxhawk.com/Files/Images/Aion.jpg - Asmo genocide squad. Sooo many dead asmo (bots). : Foxhawk
  • spy : stoned wallaby crop circle
• Those rectal spikes look biologically improbable. : Gonzo
• Does this game have any sort of a free trial yet? I refuse to plan an MMO before sampling. The new t... : sadjack