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  Uncharted 2 is fucking amazing. Granted, the stealth at the beginning doesn't lend itself to the best fir... : Vincent Grayson
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    I'm glad to be through the stealth portion, I'm hoping the action picks up. : TEXIT
    • It does big time. I think i"m on Chapter 6 right now and it's nuts. I'm loving this game a lot. : stump
    • There's a ton of fantastic action for a good dozen chapters or so. The part I just finished was a lot of ... : Vincent Grayson
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      Preety funny. On the first one everyone complains there is too much action. : irrerno
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        I don't mind the stealth later in the game, where you have a choice. I just hate any section in any game ... : Vincent Grayson
        • It is kind of a stealth crash course. I failed 2 times on hard difficulty in that first area. I'm preet... : irrerno
  • I really loved the stealth part. Surprised people don't like it =( : bozer
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  The BL review at Gametrailers has me second guessing my choice... http://www.gametrailers.com/video/r... : TEXIT
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    wow, that looks like no fun at all. : geneshifter
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      Uh, sorry, but did you miss the part where you can ride a panther that shoots laser beams from its eyes? : BlackCat9
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        No, but I'm not 13 anymore. It takes more than that. : Ebu
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          You are dead inside. You might not know it yet, but you are. Someday you will wake up, look in a mirror... : qsylvr
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            ebu is the most joyless wretch of all shack history : JINKY
            • Hello JINKY : Ebu
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            I enjoy plenty of fun games, it just takes more than an over the top Jack Black vehicle to get that kind ... : Ebu
            • Funny, I'd say that Jack Black is the vehicle for the game, not the other way around. : qsylvr
      • that sounded hilarious but looked really stupid to control. : Hoax
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    Why don't these videos work on the iPhone! Fucking hell. : treefingers1
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      I'm not sure if you're serious, but the iPhone doesn't have Flash. : BlackCat9
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        Some sites have MPEG (MOV maybe?) versions available that work on the iphone. : crummynz
        • I tried the SD Quicktime version and it still told me that my Flash player wasn't up to date, so their de... : BlackCat9
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        They could still serve up an iPhone-compatible version : OverloadUT
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          Apple could stop being fuckwits about Flash, too, and then every site wouldn't have to create and host mu... : nudel
          • I'm sure Adobe deserves some of the blame here too. They usually do. : Perturbation
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      Gametrailers work on my iphone. You have to click the huge iPhone logo. : razlebol
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        i do! Then it loads the quicktime screen but says "This movie can not be played." I even tried browsing... : treefingers1
        • Same here. I've watched gametrailers videos on my iPhone before but they don't seem to work any more. : nakedsavage
  • BL looks great from what I saw from the demo. I hope it doesn't suck because I intend to buy it soon. : irrerno
• you = broken : dromo5
• I was just struggling with this question yesterday and today I tried out the Brutal Legend Demo...wow...i... : wytefang
• Uncharted 2 is awesome. I'm on chapter 11. : irrerno
• You're dead to me. : CrustaR
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  I played the Brutal Legend demo and it kept interrupting the gameplay with cut scenes. Not that the gamep... : gyokuro
  • Well, the demo was still fairly introductory at that point. I expect the beginning of a game to have lot... : pigvomit
• Got both, Uncharted 2 is WAY more fun so far imo : uncle slappy
• got both. Enjoying them both. Playing Uncharted 2 a lot more right now though. Why not just buy both? : sharpie
• More Uncharted is NOT a bad thing, plus from what I hear, the demo of Brutal legend isn't very representa... : silentbobuk
• "it's more of the same"? Did you see where the name of the game was 'Uncharted 2'? : jimvolk

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• http://steamcommunity.com/id/spaceless : spaceless
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/SolveChrist : SolveChrist
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/Ebu : Ebu
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  http://steamcommunity.com/id/breadstick : breadsticks
  • invited you too : Nitrium
• ^^^ all three invited : Nitrium
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  http://steamcommunity.com/id/OverloadUT : OverloadUT
  • invited : Nitrium
  • Alright that was the first one that says they already had an invite or declined to join so I think Nitriu : AgentPothead
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  http://steamcommunity.com/id/Cheeziologist : Cheeziologist
  • Danke : Cheeziologist
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  http://steamcommunity.com/id/astrogiblet If somebody could send me the L4D Shack group invite too that... : astrogiblets
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    invited BEAT THAT, AGENTPOTHEAD! : Nitrium
    • If you wanna take over invites I'll go play some Risen :D : AgentPothead
    • Less than 30 seconds after I posted that link I had like 6 invites sitting there. Nitrium is a GOD. : astrogiblets
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/phoenixarisen : PhoenixArisen
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  http://steamcommunity.com/id/rup7ur3x/ : ninj0rc
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    http://steamcommunity.com/id/xrup7ur3x/ Yeah I suck. The second is the correct link. Thanks in advan... : ninj0rc
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      still no joy : Cheeziologist
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        http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197997006433/ ...that's the link directly cut and paste from m... : ninj0rc
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          That one worked, and if you wanna use a shorter ID I believe that settings is on your main profile settin... : AgentPothead
          • Yeah, I'm looking in there now...this is the second or third time I've logged into Steam since before the... : ninj0rc
      • Danke : ninj0rc
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/geedeck : geedeck
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/GrimmyD : GrimmyD
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/helterskelter : Helter Skelter
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/amadan : Amadan
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/rezlogic : two50six
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  Anyone still looking to get a 4-pack deal going? : zerog83
  • I am. I think Cashdd was as well. : ArcKnight
  • I'm not sure what shacker he is but http://steamcommunity.com/id/mastermike569 was asking about that in t... : AgentPothead
  • Yea. I'd be down to get in a 4 pack. : coyoterys
  • If you need a 4th, I'd be interested in the 4 pack. : DrZettl
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/cowbs : cowbs
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/erikthered : ErikTehRed
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/warcrow : warcrow
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/coyoterys : coyoterys
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  Ok I'm takin a break to pwn some Risen so if your invite takes till morning don't worry it will get sent : AgentPothead
  • I gotcha buddy! : deject
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/TheJay : thejay247
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/Gret : Gretse
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/goldfishpicklejar : imcompa
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/Duffman8369 : Duffman8369
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  http://steamcommunity.com/id/sixfoot6 Will we be able to use this to join eachother though? I understa... : sixfoot6
  • If nothing else, we can use the group to organize. : deject
• Right, anyone else before I go do something else besides shack? : deject
• When do reviews get unleashed on this. Other than Breckon's sigh of course. : SqueegyTBS
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  http://steamcommunity.com/id/tomservo : tomservo
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    danke : tomservo
    • no problem servo. hey you have lifts in your hoverskirt don't you? you do you have lifts in your hovers... : deject
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/foffers : finger
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/squeegy I guess I'll jump on the hype wagon! : SqueegyTBS
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/tim : stamps
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  http://steamcommunity.com/id/inc77 : inc77
  • Yours is http://steamcommunity.com/id/inc I think, cause the inc77 does not exist. : AgentPothead
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/mooglebean : moogle
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/code-e : code-e255
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/KaboomzZz : .ka`boom.zZz.
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/Derringer : Derringer
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/mercfox1 : MercFox1
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  Any solid previews or early reviews for this game. Still need confirmation to pull the trigger. : Sgt_Boomstick
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    It's ok if you wanna leave the steamgroup if you don't end up buying the game. We won't brand you with a ... : AgentPothead
    • maybe you don't : zerog83
  • Oxm gave it 8.5. The game us only 33.50 if you buy the 4 pack. : razlebol
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/jigs : jigstah
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/SailorofFortune : Sailor of Fortune
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/waverider : Waverider
• I guesse everybody is invited now. : Nitrium
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/skdr : -sk-
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  http://steamcommunity.com/id/ysbreker : ysbreker
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    You guys are fast! :) Thanks! : ysbreker
    • Timing is everything! : AgentPothead
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/gendail : gendail
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  http://steamcommunity.com/id/redfive : redfive
  • invited you and gendail : Nitrium
• I still need to get in on a 4 pack. : Crimsonbeak
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/lightly : lightly inclined
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/hyperwired - interested in a 4 pack : hyperwired
• http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197992847941 : Navy Spitfire
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/Kylegar : Kylegar
• http://steamcommunity.com/id/Bemeseed I would love to get in on a four pack purchase : bemeseed

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• I'm not really going, but this sounds fun :( : nyranger66
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  I'd like to go even though i dont shack much. Sounds like it'll be a gas! Plus i get to see/meet you guys... : mayooms
  • yaaaay! : mysled
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  I WILL GO FOR SURE i like the 360 controller more for sf4 :'( : xsoulbrothax
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    Well I could set it up on either console (I have two 360s and a PS3) provided someone brings the game. Th... : OverloadUT
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      If i go i'll bring a tournament stick! : mayooms
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        i've got a 360 tourney stick too! : xsoulbrothax
        • It's on!! Bring it! i actually suck balls : mayooms
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      did you already purchase the BSG board game, btw? y/n :D : xsoulbrothax
      • I have not! It's on my wishlist and my birthday is this Sunday. I have a feeling my dad will be getting i... : OverloadUT
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      I can bring a Wii if necessary. Unfortunately this would mean bringing my sister also. : mysled
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        If your sister is not fun to bring, I can bring a Wii with no games. : xsoulbrothax
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          No I was planning on bringing her anyway to protect me. The only fun game she has though is the Super Mar... : mysled
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            I actually have a Wii and 3 wiimotes. I only mentioned 360 and PS3 in regards to SF4 :) : OverloadUT
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              so it's rock band for Wii? : mysled
              • No, I have Rock Band 2 + Beatles for the 360 along with all of the controllers, including the ION drum ki : OverloadUT
      • Your feelings have now betrayed her too! : Sailor of Fortune
• There is a fun, relatively unknown trap range near Novato. It even has a boat you shoot out of. : Lightzout
• I added "Shackmeat" to my calendar. Is anyone driving up from the city who can take a passenger? It's a... : J4NUS
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  Oh Novato. : jessipoo
  • Word. : BlackCat9
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    Are you coming??? : OverloadUT
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      I DON'T DO NOVATO : jessipoo
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        What the fuuuck kind of reason is that. It's a shackmeet I have even met you now so we are bestest buddie... : OverloadUT
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          cars are complicated and i can't cross the bridges anymore thanks to parole :( : jessipoo
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            People from south of the bridge don't like going north of the bridge. I've never understood why, but it m... : BlackCat9
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              They also dislike heading east. : hamachi
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                Oakland is scary :( : yosemiteclimber
                • Well, you probably shouldn't let your woman go there. : BlackCat9
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                  i say it's a tie between RIchmond and Oakland : mayooms
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                    richmond seems more annoying from SF because you have to cross the bay bridge then go all the way up ther... : dahanese
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                      i think she meant for scariest. but richmond is the clear scary winner. oakland isn't that bad. : jessipoo
                      • i haven't spent enough time in richmond to make that judgment. i don't think oakland is that bad either. ... : dahanese
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                      are you talking about getting to novato? if so, you only need to hop on 580 : mayooms
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                        no... for reference, i live in downtown SF and commute to novato. i was saying that SF to richmond seems ... : dahanese
                        • oh yeah most definitely : mayooms
                        • isn't that also in the opposite direction of traffic? I mean commuting from SF-Novato every day. : mysled
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                lies. i'd much rather go east bay than north. : jessipoo
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                  What's so scary about the north bay? : OverloadUT
                  • No billboards. : BlackCat9
            • it's really not that difficult. maybe i'm jaded because i work in novato so i do it 5 times a week, but i... : dahanese
            • I like the north bay. I enjoy being in the sausalito/tiburon area. There are some great hikes and views... : FlamingGimp
• bleh, thats a few weekends after I'll be up north :( I'll see if I can make a separate trip up though! : Demius
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  If it wasn't for work I would head over. I need to get a first shackmeet one of these days. : NFXFSX
  • You suck. : spazzium

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  Faylor's got review duty. I'll be offering some impressions on Idle Thumbs this week. : Nick Breckon
  • yaaaaay! : zerog83
  • do it entirely in morse sigh : dahanese
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    How about you offer some impressions now...yay or nay? : PenicillinX57
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      I don't have enough time to do so without shortchanging it. : Nick Breckon
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        But if you guys have questions, post 'em here and I'll address a few on the podcast. : Nick Breckon
        • does it have legs? is the loot addictive? is it fun? : hamachi
        • How much of the game is actual innovation versus copy and paste mechanics of past games? : freakynipples69
        • If Borderlands was a woman would you have sexual congress with it? No homo. : trove
        • Can you use the /sigh command in the game? It's a deal breaker for me. : Vegtro
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          They say we haven't see the "real" thing yet. How much is this true ? Is there really that much we didnt ... : barichnikov
          • im still confused by the 'real' comment. Im curious about the levels / campaigns. : dignan
        • Is Diablo with guns an accurate description? Or is that giving it too much credit? : jingletard
        • Is it continually exciting. Does it have interesting combat, interesting loot and interesting levels and ... : LoioshDwaggie
        • Do the weapon variations have noticeable differences? Are they awesome or do they suck ass like Halo weap... : MagicWishMonkey
        • One of the gameplay videos showed a car being driven through a boulder without interacting with it. Do t... : PenicillinX57
        • does diet dr. pepper really taste like regular dr. pepper? side note: how long is the co-op part of... : i poop from there
        • YAY OR NAY? : ieGod
        • Are the missions compelling or are they generic? : WhatIsThisFor
        • In light of Randy's comments on how he's like RPGs for progress, do you feel that Borderlands is represen... : Kentor
        • If we liked Fallout 3, Diablo 2, Doom, Worms 3D and Quake 3 will we lke this game? : posito
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          Did you notice that the art within the head 'splosion bubble on the cover art depicts the games original ... : Prozium
          • also, is it so visceral that it will blow me away? : Prozium
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          Does it have guns? : yosemiteclimber
          • which purple drop gun x4 is the best? : radula
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          Do you feel Borderlands would have been better with a more traditional RPG approach (Dialogue trees, stat... : Reeves
          • What I meant in the third question is.. Will there be interest to play past level 50, presumably through ... : Reeves
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          How easy is it to get a coop game going from single player and how easy is it to return after? Like can I... : AgentPothead
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            This^ Plus how are friends managed in-game - Is there a game specific friends list, or do you join games ... : pyide
            • Shit good question. Xbox has built in friends but wtf does gamespy have for friends or anything? : AgentPothead
        • Is it the first original Gearbox game that doesn't suck? : Haku-Jin
        • Can you tell Mr. Rodkin that I love him alot? : moe6
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          What is you guys' favorite brand of condom? : Orange Pylon
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            They dont use condoms. FTW. We aint belive in no AIDS mofos! : posito
            • That's not why they don't use condoms. : Lunatic Angelic
        • CAN YOU PLAY AS A WIZARD OR SOMETHING SIMILAR? : Kentor
        • Does it have enough wizards in it? : Shivawn
        • Can you post a real picture of A Sponge please : H@rvester
        • I have some hair growing down there in my special place. is that normal? : thecray
        • Will an upcoming patch add wizards. : ChibiJosh
        • If you were a hotdog, would you eat yourself? : tashtego
        • Can I run and gun? : dognose
        • please fill in the blanks: It's like _________ with _________ : indosauros
        • Are the graphics neat? cuz some of the videos they look almost distracting. Im all for the cel-shading, b... : chilln
        • Is there a secret cave where you can kill Steve Gibson? : locater16
        • Do you love the cock or are you a tease? : massdev
        • Did steve give you the nude patch? : grabbie
        • Will i be able to access the secret cow level using Wirt's leg? : SigENeaT
        • Is Brotherman Bill the brother with the Brotherman Bill skills? : pyide
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          IS IT BETTER ON THE PC OR 360?? i LIKE BETTER GRAPHICS AND CONTROLZ BUT i LEIK MY COUCH AND FRIENDS THAT ... : socksta
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            IM GUNNA GIT AN XTRA GRAFIX CARD FOR DIS GAME. SO ENEMIES A MILE AWAY WONT HAVE TO LOOK AT MUDDY TXTURES... : kingdepork
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              i UPGRAYED MY 360 WITH MEMEORY SO i CAN HAS FRIENDS WITH HEADSETS. BUY GAEM ON STEAM??? NO DVD HAHAHA YOU... : socksta
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                lol. I love this. U HASTA GET IT FOR PC!!!!11 IN A FEW MONTHS THERE WILL BE NOOD MODS AND RETXTURED GUN... : kingdepork
                • omygod. make it stop. : master_disaster_17
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          Are you getting the game? : Nighteyes
          • Seriously, just answer this question now. Would you spend 45/33 dollars on this game. : Nighteyes
        • Boxers or briefs? : buzzbat
        • Will this game grab a more "hardcore" game crowd or a more casual game crowd (ala Halo)? : goatjc
        • How do the weapons feel/handle in game? they looked pretty plastic feeling & dull from the preview gamepl... : supaLink
        • 1) wtf trading? 2) wtf FFA loot? 3) you can't populate the AI with the main characters? : Downforce
        • Is Jake Rodkin touching your leg right now? y/n : tomservo
        • How awesome is the co-op play? : fechols
        • Does it 0wn or what? : CrustaR
        • What would be some mods you'd like to see? : Sailor of Fortune
        • Ask Jake why he is so horrible at video games. I have seen him play and I actually felt sorry - not for h... : Ajax
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        this sounds like, "sit down. we have to talk". noooooooo : spiderfill
        • I don't see why he can't just say "it's great! I'll give details and impressions later" I wonder if thi... : kingdepork
      • did you hear that? he just fucking sighed :( : GloriousCow
      • lets see if I got this right : "I want to say nay, but I don't want to be unfair to the game because i... : everybodysuncle
      • Can you at least tell us whether you were playing the 360 or PC version? : ArcKnight
      • WHAT A FUCKING COCKTEASE BRECKON. : skinlab133
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    you won't give impressions now!? fuck this preorder canceled! : mikecyb
    • http://digg.com/gaming/Nick_Breckon_of_Shacknews_hated_Borderlands_confirmed_by_unwillingness_to_post_imp... : OverloadUT
  • this game is either great or sucks if the shack is fucking doing a review . : grabbie
• SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHHHHHHH : tashtego
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  Just found this new gameplay video.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMWiM6QWZHw&feature=channel .. The sk... : Reeves
  • Sweet thanks for that! :) : Johnnsen
  • that looks fucking great! I can't wait for release, damn you one week later release for PC! : everybodysuncle
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  Will the game have more than just the desert wasteland environment??? : whistletits
  • Yes, snowy environments and meadows I think : Johnnsen

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• I'm too busy playing Gran Turismo for PSP to even care! LOL Flopza! Polyphony Digital always delivers o : Lunatic Angelic
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  hot pics from photo mode here: http://forums.forzamotorsport.net/forums/1/3034982/ShowThread.aspx : FrayLo
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    Too bad the photo mode is gimped by compression in the game and hopefully fixed by release. : Vegtro
    • is it? where does it say that? http://i26.tinypic.com/2cyi1ed.jpg i found this post in that same t : FrayLo
  • that's got nothin on my sweet ride http://www.needforspeed.com/SpeedAPI/ws/game/1.0/nfsps2-360/photomo... : synapse19
• So many games in these 2 weeks for me to power through until Forza 2 comes out. Will have to beat unchar... : sigpro
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  so i guess there are already people with the game - the people who are good at making car liveries? ht... : FrayLo
  • I'm actually stunned Turn 10 hasn't been sued yet for copyright infringement ala Marvel / NCSoft for lett : Lunatic Angelic
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    Turn 10 gave early copies to that Forza 2 drift team and to a bunch of Forza 2 livery people. They didn'... : cltcprd
    • i just got the xfer cable, thanks. i'll send it back this weekend. : FrayLo
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  yessss. so when do shackraces start? : opengl128
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    immediately : FrayLo
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      I should get myself an MS wheel now so I can learn to use it w/ Forza 2 before 3 comes out : zerog83
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        i played the F3 demo with the MS wheel for a bit last night. i was able to get very close to my record t... : FrayLo
        • that's what I'm worried about; am I short-changing myself by not having anything to mount it on. I might ... : zerog83
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          also, as much as you potentially dislike the wheel, is it still a lot better than the gamepad? : zerog83
          • i don't think it is, because i feel so much more precise with the gamepad. although the wheel is more re... : FrayLo
        • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21128379#itemanchor_21128379 : paroxym
        • Did you notice it was easier to spin out when using the wheel? : enyakk
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  I'm so hard for this game. : zerog83
  • Me too. We should cross swords. : Salad Sammich
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  dammit to fuck. batman, demon's souls, and some other stuff yet to finish. NEED DELAY PLZ. maybe add ... : Downforce
  • play games faster. : sigpro
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  I was watching the review on gametrailers for F3 and both I and seemingly the reviewer were kind of meh o... : festivalman
  • Well if you want an arcade racer, you get Grid or Shift. F3 isn't really for you if you're looking for a : Lunatic Angelic
  • everyone who liked forza 2 will probably like this unless they managed to royally fuck it up. so i don't... : FrayLo
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  what's the wheel + pedal setup of choice these days? : dromo5
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    I've heard good stuff about Fanatec wheels. I ordered their über "Porsche 911 Turbo S Wheel -Clubsport... : code-e255
    • I ordered in June and am still waiting :( : boarder2
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    you really only have the choice between the $100 Microsoft setup (which can be found cheaper on ebay), or... : zerog83
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      The Microsoft wireless wheel is poop, I wouldn't recommend it. : enyakk
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        I quite like it. Are there any other force feedback wheels for the 360 that dont cost a bajillion dollahs... : master_disaster_17
        • Nope! : enyakk
• we are less then a month away from Modern Warfare 2 :O!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : maulla
• Fraylo you are going down. I'm right behind you in most of the hot laps! : Affliated

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• *slow clap* : stratedge
• *Dry humps cat scratch post.* : mastermike569
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  def full_name [first_name, last_name].compact.join(' ') end : theamazingrand0
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    I try to avoid the &:symbol syntax, since its a rails-ism, and not standard ruby. I used to be really use... : theamazingrand0
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      I've not done much rails...is that akin to the elvis operator (blah?:null option; -- http://groovy.code... : rt702
      • I don't know Java. In ruby, the & operator converts an object to a lambda, by calling #to_proc on the : theamazingrand0
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        nah, ruby has ternaries too (though not the terse elvis variant). It does what theamazingrand0 said. : zakazi
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          Reading this "elvis operator", you can do that in ruby with "or". From that java example: display_n : theamazingrand0
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            Indeed you are correct! Use the second one all the time, and the first I haven't seen in a while (and a b... : zakazi
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              seriously, so happy to kill my kludge of a solution. =D : zakazi
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                Yeah, its really helpful to remember that in an "or", it returns the first element thats true, and in an : theamazingrand0
                • now that's a use I haven't seen! I've used it in ifs but not assignments. I guess I thought it'd return ... : zakazi
                • yeah, i use that. I like this when i'm using that display_name only once if display_name = user && use : filthysock
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    YES, i knew there was a method for that. : filthysock
    • I keep the core lib API docs for Enumerable, Array and Hash open in tabs pretty much all the time. : theamazingrand0
• I could be pedantic and argue code readability as a reason for a more verbose approach, but that first ex... : rt702
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  I don't know ruby, but in PHP, for example, if it's blank, it doesn't print anything, so couldn't you jus : SwiftyPants
  • hrmm, that is better, maybe just jam them together and trim the extra space if needed : filthysock
  • In most interpreted languages, String + String + String is much slower than just interpolating, which is ... : theamazingrand0
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  Doesn't really look all that bad to me (although I have no idea what || does), it's probably just someone... : qwpeoriu
  • its there because, no one else on the team bothered to study ruby/rails at all before diving into the p... : filthysock
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  As someone who isn't a real developer (paid professional) the first code would be the type of code I'd pr... : hadronflux
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    The first choice issue comes up. It's most people's first choice. And that's totally ok. It's a sketch! Y... : zakazi
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      I see. In my little world I stop looking at the code once I see that it works, so I never hit the refact... : hadronflux
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        Usually when you see someone's code that's remarkably concise, well thought out, never repeats itself, an... : zakazi
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          i feel naked not doing TDD/BDD nowadays :) : filthysock
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            I do too! Usually the nastier the problem the more naked I feel too. A while back I was cracking at somet... : zakazi
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              I think you both are missing the point. The difference between the first and the refactored version have ... : terath
              • my 'naked' statement was a hijack, not really referring to anything else in the thread :( : filthysock
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  self is a style thing. Many people reference it not because they need to but to be clear they're talking ... : zakazi
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    Sometimes you have to include the self to do the right thing, though. class Foo def bar=(value) : theamazingrand0
    • Absolutely, though that could be solved through naming. That specific conflict is the one I was saying pe... : zakazi
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  How is that bad? Why is verbosity worse than being terse? : mr.thing
  • Because in ruby, its very easy to be short, explicit, and readable, all at the same time. His fix is comp... : theamazingrand0
  • its not verbose, its redundant : filthysock
• being a php guy but just starting to learn ruby, it's just lack of experience. I read the first one and s... : festivalman
• I dont think it's bad code, maybe not 100% optimized, but its readable. : bagelcc
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  "#{first_name} #{last_name}}".strip I much prefer interpolated string to string addition, myself. And t... : SqueegyTBS
  • yes, this is exactly what i ended up with : filthysock
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  What a horrible language. Fuck supporting your code. What is this? 1985? : natural born chaos
  • It does have a bit of Perl in its blood, but it's done in a good way and it's perfectly maintainable, IMO... : jcupitt
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  If you were in my project and Ruby wasn't what we as a company specialized in I would have you redo your... : enyakk
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    But why use Ruby if you don't have people who know the language? If you've spent even a few days working ... : jcupitt
    • You could say the same about C++. The most condensed form a language offers is not always the more readab... : master_disaster_17
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  Does ruby allow you to catch accidental typos when assigning to variable names? (i.e. Does it have the... : nudel
  • So true'. Years of writing 'option explicit / option base 0' at the top of every bloody VB6 file. I stil... : master_disaster_17

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  OMG! Does Nick sigh about Borderlands?!?! :| : Rice-Rocketeer
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    Holy shit that was an insane sigh this time. : Kentor
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      Well fuck. : Kentor
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        Good lord now I don't even want to try Borderlands. : Kentor
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          Haha, he had a really hard time trying to explain how he felt about this game. I don't know how to take t... : pyide
          • It sounded like it didn't matter what class you played. : Kentor
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            I forget if it was during the podcast or before we started recording, but he said the various classes don... : Chris Remo
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              It was on the podcast, but I don't know how he could say that as fact without trying them all. I've seen ... : pyide
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                Each class has the unique ability, and skill trees are unique. I tried the assassin class and the soldier... : Nick Breckon
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                  Haha, can you man the turret or is it all automated like the Engineer's sentry in TF2? Was it helpful at ... : pyide
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                    It's automated, and definitely helpful. That bird is just dumb, though. : Nick Breckon
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                      Tell us why! This is what people want to know. Well not people, just me apparently. It sounds powerful ... : pyide
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                        The special effect is just silly. For being the one distinguishing ability you get, it's not at all satis... : Nick Breckon
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                          Hard time seeing it there but I think I get what you mean. Is that the class you played the whole game... : pyide
                          • PS I'll stop asking questions so you can stop talking about this game.. starting now! : pyide
                        • that just looks like a regular spell that happens to go CAW!! and home in on a dude. :\ : stamps
              • I guess there is only one real unique ability per class which separates them. I'm still curious which cla... : pyide
            • That's a shame but thinking about it I suppose it makes sense as everyone is basically a type of direct-d... : chazums
            • They don't? So how much of it did he end up playing in co-op? : Mad Brahmin Disease
          • Haha, so that first sigh was exactly what it sounded like? Or, at least, what it suggested was true? I ho... : Felraiser
          • I'd love to see a game that wasn't shy on making travel an effort. One of the things I liked when I playe... : dooberzoo
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    Well that fucking sucks : Reeves
    • FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU : Reeves
  • But, but, Randy Pitchford told me his game was the best game everrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. : hoov1185
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  No Demon's Souls!?!? : Kentor
  • They talk about it briefly, but don't think they could get a copy. (Chris has ordered it so hopefully it... : alnya
• vigi vigi vigi! : nunami
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  actually, it doesn't sound too great from the way he described it. : burning eye
  • err, this is in reference to Borderlands. : burning eye
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  Wow, Borderlands sounds pretty bad... : ArtilleryMarker
  • yeah, he really prolongs the whole description, but it just sounds like it sucks. : burning eye
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  Aaw I hope it doesn't suck tho. :( : Johnnsen
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    i gotta say, it sounds horrible from the way he painfully described it. Event trigger bugs (being able t... : burning eye
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      Yeah, this seems pretty damning. All of the game's selling points are described as hollow, uninteresting,... : Felraiser
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        I think it's going to be one of those games where you either dig it, or you don't. Faylor likes it. I was... : Nick Breckon
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          Aren't those problems fixable? : Johnnsen
          • Well, a lot of it is certainly fixable. That's the state of the final build that I played, though. There ... : Nick Breckon
• Hey, Remo, Nick - First time listening, it's awesome, nice job :) I think you've convinced me to get B... : Durajim
• Any idea when the shack review will go up? : Big Luke
• I just want to say... any chance the blog could get updated, even with a just a little dude saying "hey g... : exponen7
• I'll give this a listen tomorrow on my drive to Dallas but I'm curious now did Remo give any impressions?... : socksta