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  Didn't the RIAA get in trouble for mandatory minimum pricing a few years ago? : mancide
  • Nintendo has done this since the NES days : dignan
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  Doesn't Apple have the same sort of control over how much retailers charge for their hardware? : MagicWishMonkey
  • Basically, any manufacturer has the right. GameStop, for example, could decide to only charge $5 for ... : MorrisatCNN
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  cool, and interesting. i do hope the $60 price point changes. even by ten dollars. that could make a big ... : PlanetPerfecto
  • I don't think it will....if anything it might go up. PC games have been at a $49.99 price point for a lon... : unholydonuts
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  A couple of years ago the Supreme Court handing down a ruling saying that it was legal for suppliers to s... : MisterClaw
  • Published in June 2007, and with this quote: "The case focused on a rule that had become something of an ... : biskits
  • To be fair, that law isn't really meant to apply to video games. It's a 96 year old law for folks like A... : ra1n
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  Interesting. I think it's ironic that even in the face of the recession, you have people like Activision'... : theangrywaffles
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    Also, I think ODST would have been the perfect game to try a break from the $60 price point. It was s... : theangrywaffles
    • me too : jonin
    • It was priced a bit lower in the UK (MSRP of 40GBP which translates to ~30 in-store), it'd bet interestin... : nomaad
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      That's effectively what I got it for with the $20 Toys R Us gift card. So far I like it a lot! : OmegaRed59
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        No, you got it for $60. That $20 card could have been applied to anything from TRU or sold on EBay for cl... : Ebu
        • That's why I said "effectively". I'm going to be getting MW2 for $60 right when it comes out anyway so bo... : OmegaRed59
    • Amazon Preorder was $10 off and I got an additional $10 future credit from it. Also I've noticed it on sa... : Sailor of Fortune
    • Actually, I think they did this in a way. The game was on sale for around $40 at a number of places. It... : exigence7
  • That isn't ironic it's just stupid : bipolar
  • Kotick is just a dick that could be selling snow tires instead of games. He doesn't give a shit about the... : Fred Garvin
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  I've only paid above $50 for a game once, and it was a WoW CE... I don't see myself ever paying more than... : stonedonkey
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    Prices *have* dropped. According to an inflation calculator, $50 in 1999 is $64.03 in today's money. In ... : bipolar
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      In today's money I refuse to pay over $50 for a game, never stated they were more or less expensive. : stonedonkey
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        Valuing the nominal cost over the real cost doesn't make much sense imo : bipolar
        • Not from an economic theory perspective, but from a consumer pricing perspective it makes tons of sense. ... : Dessicator82
• If by "astonishing" you mean "astonishing someone would sign a contract agreeing to that," then sure. Bu... : ra1n
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  Doesn't surprise me. Like CHRIST.. my buddies got me a PS3 as a wedding gift. I went out, and bought 2 ga... : ShadowRam
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    Entertainment is expensive. Just think, you could have gotten one and a half good seats to a Broadway pl... : qsylvr
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      I still think publishers would sell 5x as many games if they dropped the price to impulse buy levels. I w... : MagicWishMonkey
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        This is kinda where I'm at now. There was a point where I had a lot of free time and was buying a HUGE... : Ormsbee
        • I don't know why, $60 is hard to justify for an entertainment purchase. Maybe it's because I've bought so... : MagicWishMonkey
    • Dollars per hour is a stupid measure, though. A pair of running shoes ($100) could be a year of entert... : Ebu
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  There's one retailer I bet they can't punish, and that'd be Wal-Mart. : Sailor of Fortune
  • Also Target, Best Buy, and GameStop. GameStop can do pretty much wtfever it wants because it dominates t... : qsylvr
• They can do whatever they want, but I'm fairly sure it'd be smart to lower the price of some games. Espec... : edgewise
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  hijack For you developers out there: What part of development eats up the most of your budget? i.e. licen... : edgewise
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    Building content and coding even with middleware. Period. That's the biggest time eaters. : Fred Garvin
    • tell that lady that the graphics on level 3 are tight enough already! : edgewise
  • Art and tool development. : Frozen Pixel
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    Hummers and hairstylists : Sailor of Fortune
    • Hookers and blow. : paulatreus
  • Minigames like darts and bowling : MagicWishMonkey
  • hookers and blow. : DarkWolf5
  • content creation duhhh : deKaf
  • moustache : spiderfill
  • armguns : 60days
  • The working versions of our Scifi stuff, specifically warp drives and energy based shielding and weaponry... : one random winner
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    people commanding high salaries that do absolutely nothing, but are friends with the owners so they'll ne... : deathofrats
    • Haha, oh man. One of my old coworkers managed to see the payroll when the HR lady left it on the print... : dravalen
  • art and art revisions : knytehawkk
  • Probably missed deadlines set by the publisher. : not work safe
• I've said it before...but I refuse to pay $60 for a video game..well...I did buy MLB 09 brand new but its... : Jimbo Ro
• Kind of funny to read the examples at the end, ATVI 12.49 0.09 (+0.73%) THQI 5.97 -0.15 (-2.4 : aethyr
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  I always wondered why Bethesda's games would never drop in price. Oblivion stayed at $60 dollar for at l... : everybodysuncle
  • A price drop will pretty much always increase sales. : Ebu
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  Anybody ever buy a game on discount and then wish you had paid full price for it? : dognose
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    X-Com. I got it for five dollars and that game is worth hundreds to me. : everybodysuncle
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      I bought the ultimate xcom steam bundle a while back and X-COM is an awesome game but it kicks the everlo... : MagicWishMonkey
      • I can guide you and there are plenty of FAQs out there for you, I can give you cheesy tactics or you can : Lunatic Angelic
• There is a grammar issue at this line: (double "lost") That’s ironic, since publishers would like : NoCopy
• This is normal and has been around since I can remember (nes days). The reason for this is so that ret... : GoodBoy

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  my ex girlfriend spent her money on me because she loses in taxes half of what I make every year. it was ... : zerog83
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    I bet you felt obligated to put out after dates. : edgewise
    • I did, and I enjoyed it every time. : zerog83
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  I don't get the lol/sad part of it. : edgewise
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    I think it's both lol and sad that she/women feel obliged to a free meal because they decide to look pret... : thekidd
    • thekidd i'm pretty, would you buy me a steak? : Dave-A
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      indeed. this is why casual dating and some people you run into make me sick at times. I almost had st... : PlanetPerfecto
      • make love to me. : thekidd
      • i pay for dates but i expect a handsome dowry along with a sizeable parcel of her father's land in exchan... : chrisschutz
      • Haha yeah totes WTF : bolneze
      • I once made a girl in college cry because she espoused and dared to voice this duality in my presence. Pl... : edgewise
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  this blog makes me want to go play video games : mrtony
  • me too, fuck this noise. : pointyelbows
• this reminds me of Laura's NYC Tales : redfive
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  Is she intentionally trying to be provocative? I mean, there's some 80 IQ logic going on in there and ye : Lunatic Angelic
  • that's a pretty loose definition of 'coherent'. yes, i understand her point, but she still sounds like a ... : gokart.
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  "LOL If I were to be going out with a guy, I'd want him to pay. It's only fair. If I'm going to look tote... : cptstern
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    totes is slang for totally, old man. : Deathlove
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      She clearly meant Totes brand cute, you schlep. http://www.totes-isotoner.com/ : Lunatic Angelic
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        http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=totes : redfive
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          i like this usage example: "For real, we thought Denise was drinking Vodka, but it was totes paint thinn... : lja83
          • I want to kill myself : redfive
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          I wasn't being serious, christ. : Lunatic Angelic
          • I know, I was just linking :o : redfive
      • maybe I am old, because that's what I thought too ..down to the isotoner gloves too : cptstern
    • so she's a younger idiot? : lja83
    • that's even worse, youngwhippersnapper : cptstern
    • lol, totes loco = lookitzpancakes. : edgewise
  • A Diablo Cody want to be, which might actually worse than just being Diablo Cody herself. : two50six
  • Striking a blow for feminism. Or to feminism. Right in the carotid. : Dynotaku
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  I also don't think she used "digress" properly, since what she was saying was completely relevant to the ... : zerog83
  • e = em see squared : boring gegtik
• I wish we could carpet bomb websites. : MercFox1
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  "Girls like to be showered with gifts.." ADIOS : Shodai80
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    fuck, I like to be showered with gifts, too : Juno
    • I like to be showered with hot water..? : Rigg5
    • i like to receive a thoughtful gift. i don't like to be "showered" in them, whatever that means. : dirge23
• People are selfish, and they'll justify it to themselves in any way they feel they can get away with. : Megara9
• This makes me not want to date ever again. : ejectorpod
• What a moron : OverloadUT
• Hmmm. Maybe you guys could stop being so judgmental and stop projecting your own thoughts onto her action... : munky315

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  Sign-up forms for Shack Tourney email forms to shackhon@googlegroups.com !!! forms in reply will be i... : kgargs
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    rawr I am signed up! : sesmaster
    • NOooooooooooooooooooooo! : zebosausamite
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    signed up last night! im totally going to the last kid picked, just like elementary school :[ : m0rfus
    • dude no matter what i'm way worse than you lol. : RogerDandy
  • just signed up : fletch_
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  Comin back from vacation today...wow first Ive seen of this. I might sign up to keep everyone properly hy... : kainen1
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    Captain just means you gotta organize your team and be available/responsible for the draft. you got dis ... : kgargs
    • It also means that you get to tell which people to buy wards and couriers.. I CAN'T WAIT!!!! ALL THE POWE... : kgargs
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    Can you make a Powerade ION4 sponsorship happen, kainen?! : MercFox1
    • Dude you know it : kainen1
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  kgargs if finish first year of my CS program i am going to get you something : DrFlammable
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    oops i hit post too soon. anyways, i am ready to kick butt. : DrFlammable
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      i am going to class now. i'm probably going to fail this calc quiz tomorrow but i am determined to ace my... : DrFlammable
      • dude there is no failing when you're powered by that ION4. Just fill up before class. : Xanthos
      • awesome, wear it out. Don't forget to take a break for some Powerade refuel. Just think to yourself: WW... : kgargs
      • dude make sure you get with the TA, do all the practice problems you can, and study study study : boomstickah
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        Here flammable....drink dis drank : kainen1
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          all i drink anymore is capri sun and water sometimes with propel mix in it. capri sun is so good. : DrFlammable
          • boy you have fallen from grace : Xanthos
    • you better be studying : bongturbo
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  Actually... we don't need anymore captains. : Jimb0v2
  • hahhahah : Xanthos
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    hahahhahaha wow, I pulled a mcpants that night. Glad we're laughing about it! : kgargs
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      hey have you played with that guy re-verse? he's pretty bad. is he a shacker? : Xanthos
      • http://www.shacknews.com/profile/re-verse : r3dn3ck
      • You don't know re-verse? : zebosausamite
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        Hey, I'm working my way to a positive kill ratio now! : re-verse
        • that makes you better than kgargs! : Xanthos
      • also this Axe top is terrible. he's feeding me to high hell. : Xanthos
    • <3 kgargs. : Jimb0v2
  • Actually you're wrong. : r0cky143
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  Thoughts on Captaincy: Obviously we're going to need a few captains, which really depends on how many ... : Xanthos
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    You gonna get drafted by joquers.. I can feel it. : kgargs
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      why u throw chip? >:( : r3dn3ck
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        jk, you still catch a lot of shit even though you are one of the better shack players now. : kgargs
        • <3 : r3dn3ck
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        man, joquers jokes never get old. that game with you, me, conandan, dana, and somebody else was monster a... : MercFox1
        • :D ! : r3dn3ck
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    Tldr; I am the best : kainen1
    • that's the tl;dr for all my posts : Xanthos
  • I look for the cutoff to be end of this week or first of next and hopefully start some games by the 23rd.... : kgargs
  • Right now it looks like we're up 29 or 30 people signed up, so should have at least 6 teams. : Lexicon_Leidun
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    who all has signed up as a captain? : boomstickah
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      me and lex I think : kgargs
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        I want to see if lexicon lists pestilence as one of his better heroes (lol) : boomstickah
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          I don't play pestilence very well when I try to build him like others suggest. If I rush to portal key I... : kgargs
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            Can you explain portal key on pest? I know portal key is useful on everyone, but pest already has flight... : twifosp
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              His flight is best at chasing people down, not initiating a team fight. If anything, it separates him fr... : kgargs
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                Ahh. Makes sense. I always try and let someone else initiate when I am pest and then rush in and lay st... : twifosp
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                  Pharoah's really awesome b'c he has a built in blink stick at level 6 : kgargs
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                    Yeah, I really love pharoah these days. Now I just need to work on hitting the middle of the enemy with m... : Lexicon_Leidun
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                      I dunno, death by friendly Pebbles chuck is pretty awesome. : c0bra
                      • Damnit, I said not to argue. Now it's time to taste the chain, c0bra. : Lexicon_Leidun
              • Also, his flight makes him more vulnerable (takes 10% more dmg, I believe), so you don't want to use it g... : Lexicon_Leidun
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    If you ask me, the best players should be captains. You should just do something objective, like the X p... : Jimb0v2
    • KDR blowback in 3...2... : ]pm[chem
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      KDR/PSR has nothing to do with the administrative task of drafting and managing team's schedules. If peo... : kgargs
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        I am not interested in being a captain. I put a ton of work into being a captain for the last TF2 tourne... : ]pm[chem
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          why wouldn't you want to play in it at least? : Xanthos
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            well, I was kind of hoping for more details of a schedule before committing - I don't want to commit if I... : ]pm[chem
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              I think this will go better as it's a lot smaller group to organize together and you got the choices of 4... : kgargs
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                i wonder how often this will be done, using portions of the teams to play games. : Xanthos
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                  Ruleset will be that you have 15 minutes from the scheduled match time to have your fullteam there and at... : kgargs
                  • D) wrestle in jell-o E) opposing captain can allow a substitute (at his discretion) : azenmaster
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          but imagine all the drama we could create! : kgargs
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            as you may have noticed in that last post, I am trying to be universally nice, friendly and drama-free he... : ]pm[chem
            • But you don't understand! we need the drama, it sustains us! : gebz
            • dude its all good, I got enough game rage to cover the both of us. : MercFox1
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              you're missing the point fagot : kgargs
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                yeah, yeah, I get it : ]pm[chem
                • Chem, with a KDR ratio of 1/5th the square of pi divided by your psr in a multiple of your games played, ... : twifosp
        • chem is a good teammate for me to poop on he doesn't get pissy at all (except when he sees me spelunking ... : r3dn3ck
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    Look you idiots. Make 2 giant teams, one side legion one side hellbourne. Have each player choose one her... : Delusional
    • This would be pretty fucking cool : MercFox1
    • 1) that would take so much coordination for everyone to pick a hero they are good with while still pickin... : Xanthos
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  I guess I should sign up even though I haven't played in like a month :( : c0bra
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    yay, done. Now I have some impetus to start playing again. : c0bra
    • we missed you puddin' : r0cky143
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  Found a cool bracket to manage our tournament: here's the example of a finished double elimination tou... : kgargs
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    I like round-robin then single-elim tourney. : zebosausamite
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      Round-robin is every team plays every team and points are calculated at the end right? : kgargs
      • yes : RogerDandy
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      Yeah, round robin sounds good. We might do best of 3 in the semi-finals and finals though. : Lexicon_Leidun
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        so we round robin for points and the 4 highest totals play in a bracket for semi-finals and the winners ... : Psigun
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          What's the math on round-robin vs single vs double elimination on 6 teams real quick. Round-robin = 5 ... : kgargs
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            What am I, chopped liver? : zebosausamite
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              man lex had a great idea zebo did you see it.. first time posted in here! : kgargs
              • He's awesome and has awesome ideas!!!!11uno : zebosausamite
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              No, but only because that reflects poorly on the liver. : c0bra
              • how can she slap? : zebosausamite
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        round robin + brackets been the plan the whole time. exact structure depends how many teams there are. ... : azenmaster
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          how about normal wrasslin'? i want to play nightcrawlers with gargalicious. : Psigun
          • if both captains agree, sure. : azenmaster
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            I dunno what he means by nightcrawlers with me :( also.. emailed you and lex : kgargs
            • it was an It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia joke. It's not what you think. :P : Psigun
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          I would actually love it if someone just wrestled and put up a video on youtube for one of the matches. : zebosausamite
          • you would, wouldn't you? : kgargs
          • I would love it if it was actually 5v5 wrestling too, to stay in the spirit of HoN a little. : azenmaster
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  won a 4v5 the other day with wildsoul. man, people really don't expect the bear to rape so hard after you... : miasma(&)
  • lol if you get the right items on booboo and you have any sense of micro wildsoul is a BEAST. I don't get... : boomstickah
  • The bear is incredible, its like having another 2700+ hp tank running around. : shackwack
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    What's the key to saving up for a mock? Is it something that I shouldn't expect to get before a certai... : dedgecko
    • Don't die and get a decent farm on. Some heroes have an easier time of doing that than others to rush a M... : Psigun
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  There is a very good chance Captains Mode and Captains Draft will be in by the time the tournament starts... : s2jason
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    wooooot thank god : Xanthos
    • god S2! : Xanthos
  • That's excellent news. The ghetto CM that we do now is kinda hilarious as people are constantly forgettin... : kgargs
  • yo dawg what about matchmaking & stats wipe? Is that coming at the same time? : boomstickah
  • hand me a cigarette because i just came : r3dn3ck
  • You just made my day, Jason! : Lexicon_Leidun
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    If you keep giving the villagers what they demand they're going to get used to it! : c0bra
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      nothing a pack of Kongors randomly spawning in every game can fix : r3dn3ck
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        Man i'd kinda like to see some supercreep action in HoN. Dota did it nicely. Randomly after so many waves... : Xanthos
        • Weather was my favorite. I always tried to fit the weather to the character I was playing. : Psigun
  • So your tellin' me theres gonna be a patch.... i read ya... i read ya! : r0cky143
  • i want a peanut butter please : Psigun
  • i am interested in those modes of play! : Audhuml4
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  I want to do this but unsure of times - any idea when this would happen? I guess jsut once or twice a we... : multisync
  • it'd be up to your captain(s) to schedule the matches.. no set time other than a deadline to have your ma... : kgargs
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    I think the exact times will vary on when the captains can get their teams together. Probably twice a wee... : Lexicon_Leidun
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      I don't see any problem with observers. A screenshot of the game end might be nice as well. : kgargs
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        S2Jason also offered to get us replays of the matches if we let him know what the numbers are, which coul... : Lexicon_Leidun
        • you know what's awesome? This site I found allows for the upload of video that we could tie to the tourn... : kgargs
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    So far 90% of the entries I've seen are once or twice a week. Therefore, I expect most teams will play o... : azenmaster
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      We'll probably try to push for more than one game a week (otherwise it'll take over 2 months to finish). ... : Lexicon_Leidun
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        Yeah i think this would be a better approach. One game a week is really slow for a tournament. : Xanthos
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          might as well call it a league at that point if it takes 3 months. : Psigun
          • Careful, if we do that the League of Legends people might get overjealous and start invading our threads! : Lexicon_Leidun
          • I think we're all on the same page of wanting to move as quickly as possible (given everyone's schedules)... : kgargs
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        Is there really a rush to finish it? Might as well not be rushed and be sure to get good participation. ... : zebosausamite
        • Yes there is. Some people don't want to be tied to a tournament for a decent fraction of the year, even i... : Psigun
        • The longer it goes, the less likely matches are to be played. We'll lose interest if it takes too long. T... : boomstickah
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        3 games over 2 weeks sounds alright, but the goal has always been a casual tourney and not a pro tourney.... : azenmaster
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          When we started there was sevreal huge threads about how draft wouldn't work because all these pros have ... : azenmaster
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            and again there's no way of knowing until we know how many teams there are. I definitely will make the s... : azenmaster
            • Yeah, I agree. Fewer scheduled matches doesn't prevent other scrims or practice matches. Moreover until t... : Lexicon_Leidun
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        For our SFIV tourneys it really helped to moves things along when we did everything in one night. I know ... : boomstickah
        • This is a good recommendation for captains to schedule their games the same night. : azenmaster
• w00t! just signed up! : dedgecko
• I'll be a captain if it's really necessary. I put down maybe on my form tho. : Skoal^Fyfan
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  Can we not enter as a team? : Cliffzorz
  • no, someone else would have to run that tourney. : azenmaster
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    that idea got poopoo'd a while ago. maybe another tournament can be done like this afterwards. : Xanthos
    • or at the same time. : azenmaster
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    You'd end up with a few pro teams and then everyone else. I think you can guess how that would work out.... : omnova
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      Its weird to see everyone say this. Even teams taht don't have the same quality of player still can handi... : Xanthos
      • here we go, captain teamwork : kgargs
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        Case and point Barrie Cres DotaFlat 9000. : Cliffzorz
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          Is this the underdog team from down under New Zealand? : Xanthos
          • Pretty much, support pestilence, carry-trician and creep armies be comin to get ya. : Cliffzorz
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        its pretty far fetched because it assumes that one team is working together while the other team is makin... : Jackass1233
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          it doesn't make any assumption that the other "more skilled" team is making an effort to NOT work togethe... : Xanthos
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            Why didn't you enforce these ideas 9 months ago in our training ground beat down sessions of dota? I kno... : kgargs
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              hahah because it was more fun beating the shit out of you guys with you having no idea how to fight it. ... : Xanthos
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                I can understand the last part the most. Trying to organize us was like trying to herd cats but we've de... : kgargs
                • yeah and i mean we all still do it. thats the hard part, breaking the habits. there probably was a good b... : Xanthos
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              when we were playing valve every weekend in CM games last winter / early spring McPants would exit McFarm... : Psigun
              • ^^this. before this point i really didn't see it mattering because you all still had so much to learn. th... : Xanthos
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            "Knowing the game dynamic and what to do with your hero is something that comes by having played your her... : Jackass1233
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              What game dynamics are you referring to that people aren't going to understand after their first 50 games... : Xanthos
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                alright cool : Jackass1233
                • yesssssssssssssss : Xanthos
            • HoN reminds me a lot of PvP from Ultima Online, so I'll take your argument one further. I'm gonna say th... : ]pm[chem
      • There are pros and cons with either approach, but a huge individual skill range almost necessitates evenl... : omnova
• I'm back from da beach! My garage door is unlocked and I just restocked my cooler. Anyone up for some ... : kainen1
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  Guys, I'm a sleeper pick. : midgetherder
  • I'm a sleeper prick : multisync
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  I require a three season contract, all residuals on my heroes' likeness, and an escalade hybrid. : jigstah
  • You will received one tippy cup and a slightly worn copy of the Qbert manual. : c0bra
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  Any of you guys been dunked on by sand wraith yet? : bongturbo
  • had one on my team who was a complete idiot and caused us to concede at the 12 min mark : multisync
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    I've seen some good sand wraith games .. I like him.. think he's a good addition. Dunno how he'll work i... : kgargs
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      how can you not know kgargs? he's been in freaking dota for years. :) top tier highly mobile carry th... : Psigun
      • (what i mean to say is, yes, he's a good competitive pick) you already know what he's all about. : Psigun
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        We just haven't scrimmed against any teams that had a strong carry who owned us is all. It's not a farme... : kgargs
        • if unchecked sand wraith WILL start murdering enemy int heroes that go anywhere by themselves. after a bi... : Psigun
  • no but you should have picked plague rider!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : boomstickah
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    holy shit he was added? I gotta check this out : kainen1
    • kainen, he is as good as in HoN as Spectre was in DotA. now with cool Ringwraith + Sand graphics. : Psigun
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      he's absolutely brutal in the hands of a good player, when he gets up to carry status its borderline unfa... : Jackass1233
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        yeah i remember, i played spectre well in dota - would like to see silencer in the game though :( : kainen1
        • they're working on him!! : Xanthos
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    i don't like him, there are plenty of other carries i'd rather be playing. : DrFlammable
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      omgmortredinmypantsyesssssssss : Xanthos
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        Who are some other rape carries that need to be added. I am most excited for morphling. : bongturbo
        • Troll Warlord. Ursa Warrior. Razor. Black Arachna. Those are the ones that stood out for me. : Psigun
        • Tinker please... and yes to brood mother. obsidian destroyer might be nice too, just to have a DPS god... : miasma(&)

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  this is the canine version of FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU : dirge23
  • I was thinking the exact same thing : skelom
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  "Whuh. Whuh. WHUH. WHUUUHHH!!" : c0bra
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    "Whuh. Whuh. WHUH. JEWDATE!" : get_navi
    • this new meme needs to go up on shack wiki : silentbobuk
    • lol : Godhatesfatpeople
• yikes, i thought of that picture when i read this post. i love that picture hehe. : i poop from there
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  http://img.moronail.net/img/1/3/713.jpg that one makes me laugh everytime LOL : i poop from there
  • ahaha, this is gold. : dirge23
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    wasnt there a shacker named "derp" around here. : posito
    • http://www.shacknews.com/profile/derp signs point to no : c0bra
  • omg the lols, I can't handle them. I had to take it off my screen. I have tears. : virus
• ahhaahhaha : timaste
• hahahahaha that's hilarious thanks : Begawkiness
• haha that's good. : Skoal^Fyfan
• hahahaha damn : jonin
• that was great haha, i'm bustin a gut here hah :D : Demius
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  http://www.lookatbowen.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/bat.jpg : DrWaffles
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    The real reason I love this image is the guy in black seated two rows behind, to the right. : DrWaffles
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      no the stupid baby looking the wrong way kills me. OTHER WAY BABY, JESUS CHRIST. : eeeealmo
      • Not to mention the guy hiding behind the baby : Katarn3279
      • i like how mirrored-shades-terminator-lady is completely unmoved, and shovelling her terminator fuel into... : Dave-A
    • lol hes got the Max Payne smirk : Cashh
    • No, the little girl in the front that has no fucking idea what's going on. : h o s t i l e
  • wtf at that guy hiding behind his kid : indosauros
  • I love how he seems to be the only one who didn't see it coming. : Rich McNinch
  • that picture makes me cringe : ass-street
  • I like the fat ginger at the bottom thinking about turkey and gravy. : uglysad
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    More bat http://www.newyorkinjurycasesblog.com/uploads/image/baseball-bat.jpg : Cubictoast
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      hahahaha this one is awesome : Reeves
      • I just now noticed that the bat is broken at the handle and someone is about to get impaled by it. : Cubictoast
  • There is so much mayhem going on in this pic it's outrageous. : pgharavi
  • Man, that looks like it hurts so fucking bad. : shwortdogg
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    Taking it to a whole other level: http://img.moronail.net/img/4/6/1046.jpg : Full.Bleed
    • I can't even think of this image without laughing myself to tears. : Full.Bleed
    • hey i have dreams about that last guy : sirkne
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    is that an elephant gun? : Turd Ferguson
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      Spanish Anarchist Rifle. Fired once shooting priests. Dropped once while filming a propaganda shot. : trove
      • lolololol Isn't great the Fascists won! : TShandy
  • For those, like me, who couldn't remember the origins of the photo: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fall... : rock elf
  • iirc, this is likely a faked picture : retarded talking dinosaur
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  • #2 Hey you, in the shirt! : Turd Ferguson
• I think the second frame is my favourite. : thecray
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  • :/ : yosemiteclimber
  • tth'd : goatjc
  • embarrassing : Modica Sol Solis
  • that was .... really bad. just .... just....no. : virus
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    It's cool, Rom. They can't all be gems. : skinlab133
    • I had thirty seconds of spare time at work and Paint.NET nearby so I went for it. Worse things have ... : RomSteady
  • shoot yourself now : moshman
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  A most excellent find, my dear Italian cousin. : Alice O'Connor
  • it all makes sense now! : Postal
• God damnit I am trying to find my favorite "oh shit!" moment caught in a photo and I can't fucking find i... : OverloadUT
• http://regretfulmorning.com/2009/10/hooo-leee-shhiiiiiitttt/ : mukumuku
• http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/4171/1254400472390.jpg : miasma(&)
• RUUUFFF RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU : .Jayson

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• That captcha for his newsletter is bullshit. : pieman
• For some reason I kept thinking the scientology crazy talk clips were going to pop up. : semaphore
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  Say what you will about him, he's had some pretty spectacular roles in some pretty spectacular movies. : notd665
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    ^this^ =TOP*GUN= : mrvandelay
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      shirtless volleyball, what more can be said : oHnOES
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        That scene with "Playing With the Boys" in the background was still one of the most regrettable parts of ... : bashildy@speakeasy.net
        • I was quite entertained by the special features of the Top Gun Special Edition DVD release. The army guys... : Schnapple
  • agreed, his personal life is a mess but the guy sure can pick good roles : dirge23
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    Except War of the Worlds. That fucking sucked. : notd665
    • Thats cuause the script sucked. I get frustrated when I think about how WotW and Jaws are basically the ... : Cygnus X-1
    • woh. Hold it there, buddy. War of the Worlds was friggin' awesome. : Cihte
  • Yeah I've always thought when he gets the right roles he's a damn good actor. He's fucking nuts but h... : Schnapple
  • Yep, I love his movies. : losimagic
  • he had good roles in good movies and he got the chance to learn and be carried by some great actors/. he ... : Hoax
  • If nothing else, I respect Tom Cruise because it seems like he is unabashedly himself 100% of the time. ... : action wombmate
  • Watching that, I had forgotten just how many iconic cinema moments he'd been part of. : five_percent
• spiffy flash animation : vassili_zaitsev
• He sure is dreamy! : scottythejock
• You're a lousy fucking softball player, Jack! : Omaha
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  Yep. He may be batshit crazy, but he's a pretty good actor : foo
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    Also Collateral was one of his best movies, I thought : foo
    • He was so awesome in that role. Probably my favorite that he's done. : Cihte
• he's had a fascinating life from all indications, that's for sure. : PlanetPerfecto
• lol "i am firing pearls at you" : oHnOES
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  Wish they would have made the rest of the Interview With a Vampire series. Assholes, now we're stuck wit... : Saman
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    queen of the damned was a wretched abortion : dirge23
    • it really was horrible. I'm going to spend a moment contemplating just how horrible it was and whether it... : Megara9
    • Indeed. They shitted that out as they were about to lose the rights back to Anne. I thought i had read re... : pimpium
• what an awesome reel : chrisschutz
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  could you imagine if that was your reel? fuck. : adev
  • yeah, not too shabby there! : jvox
• Xenu is setting him up for an epic fall................... : Downforce
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  Imagine if he wasn't a Scientologist? : cjcharv
  • wouldn't make any difference to me. can't expect exceptional people to be just like the rest of us. : jvox
  • i don't see where him being a scientologist has any bearing on his acting ability : peat
  • Sorry, I meant to put this under the above thread. : cjcharv
• god this is awesome : thekidd
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  He is a badass and has made great movies. Whacko or not. : GeorgeB3DR
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    Roles where he's not playing Tom Cruise as Tom Cruise: 4th of July Vanilla Sky Collateral Eyes Wide... : RyDogg1
    • i would throw Last Samurai and Minority Report on there too : peat
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      and really, if not playing one's self is the measure of good acting then he's better than De Niro, Pacino... : jvox
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        Ledger wins it by a landslide as the Joker, though. : foo
        • yeah and he was just as impressive in Brokeback Mountain. : jvox
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      Magnolia... : fotografico
      • haha I love listening to him when he is on the stage. : pimpium
• I have seen 3 of those movies. Am I culturally illiterate? : ann thracks
• Christ. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• he redeemed himself for me in tropic thunder.. fantastic : beastrabban

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• this seems inevitable given nVidia's apparent hardships of late : dirge23
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  Cool. Looks like BC may be easier the next generation. : Prozium
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    MS owns the IP for the graphics chip though, don't they ? So no matter who picks up the task b/c should b... : qwpeoriu
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      ^This, although it makes more sense to move forward with AMD considering the 360 already uses AMD hardwar... : one random winner
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        yeah, wouldn't there at least be some inherent form of compatibility between the current 360 GPU and the ... : Prozium
        • It wouldn't be a necessity, but at least it would be a possibility. Let's hope they'd design it in. : DinK
        • The Xbox 360 GPU is basically a Shader Model 3.0 chip, so I don't think it would be to hard to build a ne... : Shadowdane
    • Aye, last gen nVidia screwed them by getting them to sign a deal for a fixed price on the chip : chazums
  • It'd be cool if we could finally return to proper BC* support. Though honestly I'd give it up for even a... : DinK
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  well don't they allready have the current 360? : stgdz
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    Yes they do and also the wii. : sigpro
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      yup.. it would be no surprise they would continue making the Xbox GPU. Wonder if they would do the CP... : Shadowdane
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        would be interesting. I'm expecting them to pick up the contract for the next playstation also which if t... : sigpro
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          damn that would be pretty huge... didn't know Sony was thinking of going with AMD too. : Shadowdane
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            Hard to say. They went with nvidia for the ps3, but it's hard to say if they would want to go with them a... : sigpro
            • knowing Sony they will probably go with whatever pushes out the highest benchmarks.. : Shadowdane
        • They need to say to Sony: 'Hay guys, want some AA for free?' : pancake humper
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        It'll probably also be IBM for the next CPU as well. : Sailor of Fortune
        • I hope not. There's room for one last generation with a really fast OOO CPU and fewer threads. Please dea... : uncleanmonkey
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          i'll go against this and wager [with absolutely no foreknowledge or information] that if they go with AMD... : PlanetPerfecto
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            Doesn't matter to me but I would have to say it'd be full circle since the Original Xbox was powered by A... : Sailor of Fortune
            • yeah, it will be interesting! im of the mind, based on my limited knowledge at least, that this generatio... : PlanetPerfecto
  • yup, certainly do : chazums
• Rumor mill has it that Nvidia is on MS' shit list and won't be coming off it for some time due to all the... : uncleanmonkey
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  Dear MS Please use flash memory for next gen game media. DVDs are too easy to damage and have a finite am... : norulez
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    Cartridges ftw : Whistler77
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      Wouldn't be a bad idea. It also prevents piracy.... : norulez
      • haha : Godhatesfatpeople
      • what : JINKY
      • Yeah, no one has ever downloaded an NES game. : OmegaRed59
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    Yeah, I'd love to see 32-64GB of internal storage like flash memory or something, and just let the user a... : qwpeoriu
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      just let the user attach whatever HDD to the machine they wanted. yea right, MS would never do that. P... : MagicWishMonkey
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        Because nickel and dime-ing customers for DLC is so much more lucrative than high priced peripherals, and... : qwpeoriu
        • That's an excellent point. Touche! : MagicWishMonkey
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    I think they reason they still use optical media is because a disc costs less than a buck to press, while... : ruckboos
    • But I'd love to be able to plug a usb stick/sd card into the console to play : ruckboos
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      By 2012 4 or 8 GB of flash will probably much closer to a dollar if current trends continue. : norulez
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        Except 4 or 8 GB will not be anywhere near enough space. : Whistler77
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          The question, by then, really will be whether MS wants to pay royalties to Sony or not. : one random winner
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            I'd hope they wouldn't use BR. But I guess that's the optical format we're stuck with for the next while... : Whistler77
            • Basically, it falls on internet providers to increase bandwidth and cheapen costs to the point where that... : one random winner
          • they'll probably prefer to ship multiple DVD, push flash media if possible, and definitely focus on digit... : PlanetPerfecto
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            highly doubtful microsoft will be paying sony anything, things are already starting to move over to digit... : Jackass1233
            • make that 500gb and some online back up incase your HD goes to shit you won't lose saved game data. : kanix
            • there's no way the company that thought an HDD as an optional add on for the masses was a good idea will ... : edgewise
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              200 gig isnt really enough though if your doing purely digital downloads. : disembodied potato
              • there's ways to work around that though- you give people mediocre size local storage to keep costs down, ... : PlanetPerfecto
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      Flash, unlike hard drives and other media, follows Moore's law. Even if they pay out of their nose the fi... : uncleanmonkey
      • How much does it cost to press a DS game? : ruckboos
  • I can get a microSD card with more storage than a DVD. That's pretty crazy when you think about it. : melkore
  • SSD seems like a no-brainer for the next one. Less heat, less space. Get rid of the optical drive too (ma... : uncleanmonkey
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    All digital downloads. : jake
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      As an option it probably will happen, but thankfully they will most likely not be download only. : Evil Benius
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        Thankfully? All digital downloads means zero piracy, and higher profit margin for developers (which me... : uncleanmonkey
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          I am all for people having the option to do digital download for every release, but it is not something I... : Evil Benius
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            It's all or nothing, I'm afraid. If you have to deal with piracy and used sales then 90% of the benefits ... : uncleanmonkey
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              I really do not give two shits about piracy and used sales. There are other ways of combating those probl... : Evil Benius
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                Ultimately it's not going to matter what you do or don't care about. If the numbers justify going to all ... : qwpeoriu
                • Looking at pricing, giving people who buy the game free DLC possibly including later portions of the game... : Evil Benius
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                There clearly isn't. Unless you remove physical access to an unencrypted copy piracy will always exist, a... : uncleanmonkey
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                  Encryption doesn't mean shit and you know it. Even all digital downloads will still be broken. : zerog83
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                    The encryption on the 360 is unbroken (seen any homebrew?), the PS3 too. If you were right then there wou... : uncleanmonkey
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                      There is some homebrew out there for it. http://debugmo.de/?p=108 : Conan
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                        is that the one that relied on a BIOS bug that MS have now fixed in an update? or is there a new way to g... : jcupitt
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                          Discussing that sort of thing is probably a good way to get nuked. : Conan
                          • it is? :( I shall google, thanks : jcupitt
                  • You obviously don't know anything about encryption. : walker270
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                  I like having a collection of games I own that are physical objects. Not to mention not wanting to be tie... : Evil Benius
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                    You're prepared to pay, say 2x the cost just to have a physical token carrying an imprint of a highly non... : uncleanmonkey
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                      You could easily throw a unique code in to every game box that you use to download a few critical files f... : Evil Benius
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                        But why bother with the extra hassle? If you're going to require a download anyway, why not just do the t... : uncleanmonkey
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                          I know it is coming, but that does not mean I have to like it. : Evil Benius
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                            To me it's all upsides. Really don't see what's not to like. It's an inherently non-physical medium, havi... : uncleanmonkey
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                              You can't let a friend borrow the game, share a gamefly rental, sell your games when you need cash, etc. : OmegaRed59
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                                How often does that happen though? Worth paying 2x as much for? You could easily support "unlocking" a... : uncleanmonkey
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                                  You really think going digital only will cut the price of games by 50%? I really do not see that happenin... : Evil Benius
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                                    Exactly, better, cheaper anti-piracy measures will only put more money in developer (or, more likely, pub... : one random winner
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                                      The price will be the price that causes consumers to spend the most amount of money. Right now people spe... : uncleanmonkey
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                                        You always need some one to reach the consumers, and it will always be some sort of retail, if not brick : one random winner
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                                          MS already has an online store. It's already there. No, not anything can get pirated. We've already de... : uncleanmonkey
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                                            Packets can (and will) be captured, decrypted, and modified to work outside of an Xbox whatever, it will ... : one random winner
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                                              You should read up on how encryption works. You can capture the packets, but unless you have the key to d... : uncleanmonkey
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                                                (btw the first half of that is done today - consoles won't run unsigned code - we just need the other par... : uncleanmonkey
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                                                  Although the pirate's ultimate goal would likely be to run on a console, it wouldn't have to be to be suc... : one random winner
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                                                    The goal would surely be to be able to play the game on more than the console it was sold for? That would... : uncleanmonkey
                                                    • It's simply a matter of capturing the data in a decrypted state, which if you've got the box you can get ... : one random winner
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                                  You're saying the standard price would be $30??? I really doubt that. : OmegaRed59
                                  • He's under the impression that companies like Activsion (we'll charge $60 on the PC for MW2 because we ca... : CurbDog
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                                  Oh, and it happens a lot. A very large number of people trade, sell, rent etc. Think of a university camp... : OmegaRed59
                                  • But *why* do they do that? Because they *like* trading? No, there are financial reasons. : uncleanmonkey
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          except it also means a pissed off retail chain and a single controlled source for games. It would effecti... : zerog83
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            You do realise that Steam is on the PC right? Which is different from a console? It wouldn't be that hard... : uncleanmonkey
            • "They're not entitled to make a living selling other people's stuff." you don't seem to understand how r... : lja83
          • Can you pirate an XBLA game? (I really have no idea) : OmegaRed59
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          Highspeed broadband isn't exactly as ubiquitous as the more tech savvy people would like. Also, only som : walker270
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            The problem is that as soon as you have the option of a DVD you open up the piracy and used sales problem... : uncleanmonkey
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              Piracy on consoles is a virtual non-issue because having to crack a system's hardware/firmware is enough ... : walker270
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                Piracy is minor sure, and nowhere near what it is on the PC, but it's not the only problem. Used sales ac... : uncleanmonkey
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                  If used game sales are such a problem they need to look at why they happen instead of trying to make them... : Evil Benius
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                    We know why it happens, it's because they're cheaper. It's not rocket science. The problem is that retail... : uncleanmonkey
                    • why do people get rid of used games; make people want to KEEP them, and give incentives for buying new. T... : zerog83
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                  I'm sorry, I'm not going to argue against statistics you pull out of your ass. You can take whatever wil : walker270
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                    What specifically is it you have an issue with? That 1/3 of sales are from used games? See here: http://k... : uncleanmonkey
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                      You're arguing prices would fall to $30 and developer profits would increase by a factor of 2 to offset a : walker270
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                        You're claiming, on no evidence, that you'd see a 40% loss of sales. That's highly unlikely to me. First ... : uncleanmonkey
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                          Actually, I'm claiming (with evidence!) roughly 40% of 360's sold are not on Live. This number is based : walker270
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                            Again, you're basing it on current numbers, but this console isn't meant to be released now. With your re... : uncleanmonkey
                            • Yes, you're right. My position that we won't see a complete, instantaneous, and radical change to consol : walker270
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          I doubt digital only would lead to lower prices. People have already shown that they're willing to buy g... : Horn
          • People are willing to buy games at 60 knowing that they can sell it back at 30 the next week, or that the... : uncleanmonkey
        • I think there will be zero piracy next gen even without download only : OrkO
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        Yep, retailers won't allow it. : Vegtro
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          What? Retailers have nothing to say on the issue. Wal-Mart will be happy to sell consoles (without games)... : uncleanmonkey
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            "Sorry, but without games to help push products, we're not going to carry your system." Games next to ... : zerog83
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              You're seriously claiming that retailers would say "Gee those millions of dollars we'll make off of selli... : uncleanmonkey
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                Yes, exactly that. having spent 2 years working in wholesale I can tell you that it happens FAR more ofte... : zerog83
                • The major reason why most game publishers haven't made a serious play for digital distribution is because... : Rotten Deadite
                • They don't have the option of making 500 million in console + game sales. That's the point. They only hav... : uncleanmonkey
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                Think about it: The new Xbox goes digital-only and retail stores makes a few dollars each from selling th... : cryptical
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                  Xbox sells their consoles directly to consumers over the internet, and via every single other traditional... : uncleanmonkey
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                    I'm not sure they are willing to give up so many consumers who can't get fast enough broadband and are wi... : OmegaRed59
                    • It's three years from now, and there are many very strong market forces pushing for increased broadband a... : uncleanmonkey
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                    except you're missing the "RIGHT NOW" factor. If I want to buy a game, I can go into a store, grab it off... : zerog83
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                      You're missing the "they're not idiots" factor. How long do you really think it takes you to download eno... : uncleanmonkey
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                        XBLA is like this, the demos are full games, you unlock it by paying for it. : Sailor of Fortune
                        • except you're talking about 250 - 500 megabyte games as opposed to multiple gigabyte games. : zerog83
                      • yes, a dramatic and expensive shift that the entire games industry would have to spend millions of dollar... : zerog83
          • no, not really : shirif
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            Not really. Profit margins on console hardware are razor thin. Software and accessories are where they ma... : Serpico74
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              Today yes, tomorrow no. If you can cut out retailers for your games, you can sure as hell throw some more... : uncleanmonkey
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                Yeah, doing this and selling download codes for games in stores are going to be the only way they'll be c... : Serpico74
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                  I don't think you need to convince the game stores. Let them get on board or piss off. You sell them like... : uncleanmonkey
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                    You're seriously delusional if you think Wal-Mart would give up $1.9 billion in game and console sales wi... : zerog83
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                      At the end of the day they have *nothing* to say on the matter. If MS comes out with a piece of hardware ... : uncleanmonkey
                      • No, they don't sell the hardware. They make bupkiss on the hardware anyway, and if it encourages people m... : Conan
                      • they LOSE money. All of the money they WOULD have made selling software would cut significantly into thei... : zerog83
        • They can keep their boxes. Just have a download voucher inside instead of a disc. : melkore
        • They'll come to an agreement where they get to sell download cards and probably first take of selling the... : Sailor of Fortune
        • Why? They make money on the accessories. Games are practically zero profit for retailers. : Halen
    • If this were true, what would happen to Gamefly or by extension the Shack? : silaslang
  • SSD in my 720 : WhatIsThisFor
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  AMD owns Ati, so a combo processor/gpu deal is definitely doable. Personally I hope it's some ultra next ... : locater16
  • that's really what i'm hoping for, it would be nice to see one of these consoles to be the first to marke... : qwpeoriu
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    Maybe, but Sony tried this with Cell initially and we all know how that turned out. : Sailor of Fortune
    • Sony was using cell as a do all processor. AMD will have a gpu with an embedded cpu. : DarkWolf5
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    does ATI do any physic chip stuff? : kanix
    • DX11 has computation on the GPU. PhysX is sort of a weird, temporary thing, I imagine that eventually mos... : bostrov
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      They've been working with Intel on hardware accelerated Havok, but some other API via DirectCompute in DX... : one random winner
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        amd working with intel? huh? : OrkO
        • They've been in a love hate relationship for a long, long time. : one random winner
        • they both understand that anything they collaborate on is mutually beneficial to both companies and the c... : zerog83
  • hehe, larrabee could yet be a success! : jcupitt

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  I don't use AV software myself but apparently Microsoft Security Essentials is the new hotness: http:/... : cetra00
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    I don't use it either for 2 years now and haven't had any problems, and I use other peoples usb drives. I... : umegastar
    • 3rd, absolutely no problems. Just need to be sensible : knepus
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    how do you know you're not infected? : shirif
    • Can't be 100% sure but even with AV software running you cannot be 100% sure either. Most new malware wo... : cetra00
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      they don't. and any half decent trojan will never give you any indication. people need to understand that... : PlanetPerfecto
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        hey I was born in croatia. there's a nod32 free web scanner too. If you're paranoid, just scan it every 3... : umegastar
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          I don't believe some infections are nearly as easy to remove or detect as they are prior to infection, at : PlanetPerfecto
          • also, a false sense of security is bad. : umegastar
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        I hope you realize that good trojans aren't detected by AV software either. The worst assumption peo... : cetra00
        • This. A true tricky, sneaky, nasty is going to get past AV software Malware these days is pretty fuck... : rosewood
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          true, but it's easier to detect them if you're scanning prior to infection. my main point is that there i... : PlanetPerfecto
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            Highly disagree. They are still intrusive as hell. Every single real-time scanning engine locks every n... : cetra00
            • im sure you're right regarding some of that- from my anecdotal non-programmer experience, most instabilit... : PlanetPerfecto
    • No suspicious processes, runs fast and smooth. last year I ran a spyware scan and it came out clean. And... : umegastar
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      I just know. : rosewood
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        CLICK HERE FOR FREE V14GR4!!!!!!1 : rosewood
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          It's not working!! : Dschinghis Khan
          • run it as an administrator : umegastar
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  MSE is pretty good and also free http://microsoft.com/security_essentials : boring gegtik
  • i'm using this too, slap hands : xxiv
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    Is it game friendly? : baron calamity
    • It's meant to be very low-impact and doesn't seem to have slowed down the HTPC I put it on. Haven't no... : nudel
  • I've installed this on a handful of boxes and have been happy with it so far. : atom519
  • I was using Avast for the longest time but recently switched to this. : silent77
  • Ars gave it a pretty good thumbs up. I'm using it aster a few years with avast and imho it's far less in... : Cubictoast
  • I've been using MSE, and I really like it. It doesn't slow down my machine at all. I like it enough tha... : afty
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  I'm using Avira on Win7 and it works great... : Shadowdane
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    does it still have that pop up ad to buy the full thing? : oHnOES
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      i turned that off :P set a security policy in Windows to disable "avnotify.exe" from running. : Shadowdane
      • ah, thanks, ill probably install it again : oHnOES
• Avira works fine in 7, that's what I use and I think it's still considered the best free AV : jingletard
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  People are saying a Microsoft security product is good? I'm so confused. : Arcanum
  • http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/09/first-look-microsoft-security-essentials-impresses.ars : cetra00
  • You should take a look at recent OS vulnerability reports/comparisons. : derelict515
  • It's based on their enterprise solution Forefront. : liqker
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  I've used Avast! for several years now and its been fantastic for me, friends, and family. : f4lln
  • VIRUS DATABASE HAS BEEN UPDATED : Patch-e
  • I've been using Avast happily, but want to check out Microsoft's. Maybe once I get Win7 I will switch. : mtgDoofy
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  I think Free AVG 9 should be released fairly soon and it was supposedly re-written to exclude a lot of bl... : prime8
  • ^ AVG 9 has been retooled to improve performance. : glio1337
• The best I've ever used is Avast Home Edition. Catches everything, blocks pages, scans efficiently, and ... : DeathStrikeVirus
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  I'm using avast atm, but consider switching. I was hit with a virus recently and even though it blocked i... : shirif
  • man spell-checking :( : shirif
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  NOD32, works great on Win7 : Wolfanoz
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    It's not free. : liqker
    • arrrrrrrrr! : r3dn3ck
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  Thanks everybody, giving the Microsoft thing a try. : Arcanum
  • you won't be disappointed. : Smitty
• microsoft's probably the best free option. funny saying that amirite : Downforce
• Avira AntiVir or Microsoft Security Essentials. Everything else is crap. : Link.

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  oh wow i didn't know the Wii Dead Space had come out already. : ass-street
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    It's getting generally favorable reviews on metacritic. The lowest score is a 60 on GiantBomb. http://ww... : Sailor of Fortune
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      The Giant Bomb guys loved it in the podcast. Weird. : tohm82
      • Yea that's what I saw torn, but brad said it was enjoyable with some good thrills. For free why not eh? : warcrow
      • This is the problem with using metacritic. 3/5 stars at Giant Bomb is completely different than a 6/10 fr... : OmegaRed59
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  Not too bad really, wish there was one around me :( So, is it like, "Third games is free when you buy ... : Darkfox76
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    The deal applies to online orders as well, and if you are buying two games the cost is very likely going... : cetra00
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      Also, it says no pre-orders but I had two in there originally (online store) and it worked too. Games wer... : warcrow
      • Huh, Online told me no Preorders when I tried on Sunday. I was gonna drop in Forza 3. : Sailor of Fortune
    • Online orders as well? Man this is going to be an expensive week. I've already spent $130 on games last w... : PointlesS76
  • That's always the case with B2G1F. Free item is equal or lesser value of the three. : Sailor of Fortune
  • Yup. : warcrow
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  how was the selection? : Lawgiver
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    Fully stocked. I was the only one there too! : warcrow
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      Also, they had 20 copies (roughly) of Uncharted 2. If I didn't already have it I would have picked that u... : warcrow
      • I was there to get MS points and some dude walked in wanting to get two copies of Uncharted 2. But they o... : Sailor of Fortune
      • Uncharted 2 is sold out at every toysrus around here :( I hate long island : Lawgiver
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  • Woah, that's like free money! : BlackCat9
  • holy what? : edgewise
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    I'm going to go give this another shot today. Didn't work yesterday :( : roushimsx
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      Oh, so it's not really part of the deal, just that SoF's checkout person fucked up? : edgewise
      • Depends on the store, I think. On the website they had it listed as an accessory, but for the last two da... : roushimsx
      • It says it's B2G1F online as well, however they were sold out of 1600 point cards. : Sailor of Fortune
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    would this work with getting 2 games @ $60 a piece, then getting a Live 12 month card for free basically? : g0nk
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      Yes : roushimsx
      • o shit. : g0nk
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  fuck yeah! I got Super Mario Galaxies, Tiger Woods 2010 w/ Wii motion plus and Metroid Prime Trilogy at l... : pukerat
  • oh shit i forgot about tiger woods! i better ;pick that shit up asap! : StolenNosferatu
• You could have done better :( : roushimsx
• Ghostbusters was a complete waste.... : dedgecko
• it says on their website preorders excluded :( anyone know if it'll work on prepaid preorders for bord... : cpt_gloval
• Sold out of Brutal Legend for 360 here :( Sure am glad I have a PS3 though and was able just pick up o... : Entity
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  Is ODST worth picking up now that the hype died? : melkore
  • I thought it was fun, and if you have friends to do firefight mode with it will definitely keep you enter... : DonarUDL
• damn, the online store is out of the good stuff and you can get the discount if they are sold out. : gibolas1234

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  Page 2 is no place for such an awesome thread seriously guys : OverloadUT
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    I'll be in SD that weekend. have fun though! : hamachi
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      Damn you hamachi!! Some day you will make one of my meets. : OverloadUT
      • it's super hard with the geeklet now. either I ditch him and the wife or everyone has to deal with a baby... : hamachi
  • awww yeeaahh : mysled
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  I might go! Maybe... I've got stuff to do usually : ( : locater16
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    That is the worst excuse I have ever heard ever. IT WILL BE AWESOME : OverloadUT
    • Therefore I shall do my best! : locater16
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  Hmm... : BlackCat9
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    YES! You know you want to come up here to visit family for Thanksgiving anyway! So just come a weekend ea... : OverloadUT
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      I'm trying to think if it's plausible. Not sure if someone will be here to watch the animals, though. : BlackCat9
      • Lame excuse! : OverloadUT
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  oh reeaaallllyyy..... : mysled
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    My Shackmeets are fucking awesome true story : OverloadUT
    • i can not attest to his shackmeets but i can say that he is indeed awesome. : kbnerd
  • I told you this was going to happen! : Sailor of Fortune
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    Another bay area shacker who has not been to one of my meets! This needs to be corrected : OverloadUT
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      I am scared :( : mysled
      • You have to come! You're actually closer than a lot of the people that will be coming. It's fun! :D : OverloadUT
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  Aw man... I have my daughter that weekend, can't make it :( : yosemiteclimber
  • :( : OverloadUT
• I'll be in Arizona until January but if I get a week off following that weekend I was planning to fly bac... : Sailor of Fortune
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  I had a good time looking like a retard at the range. Maybe I can even get a girl to come with me this ti... : sesmaster
  • You were the highlight of the rangemeet! : OverloadUT
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    You were fine at the range. You obeyed all the range rules, were safe with the weapon, and took instruct... : yosemiteclimber
    • Yeah, as much as we give shit to sesmaster about being hilarious for us to watch, he was a fine example o... : OverloadUT
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  arrgh I wanted to go last year and couldn't afford the trip then either. FUCK YOU SF SHACKERS!!!! :( : Megara9
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    I can't afford the Halloween shackmeet :( I am so sad! I had the best costume Idea too... : mysled
    • aww that's a shame. It's mostly a regular party though (lots of nonshackers) so you won't be missing quit... : Megara9
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  oh yeah i'm coming. : dahanese
  • yes yes YES OH GOD YESSSSS : Jumperus
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    I'm coming, Elizabeth, I'm coming! : j0nchan
    • i hate all of you i'm going home :( : dahanese
  • >:) : virus
• Interesting... : MaxPete82
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  I'd come but I can't stand rock band. : DJ Clipdat
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    Are you kidding me? In a house where there will be lots of different areas to hang out, tons of people to... : OverloadUT
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      Well that, and it's in Novato. ;) : DJ Clipdat
      • Dude you're in Alameda. That's 30 minutes away. I'll pay your damn bridge toll you lazy bum. : OverloadUT
      • Ctrl-Phreak comes up from SoCal and xsoulbrothax, spazzium, FPSDAvid, anf so on from NorCal go to SoCal f... : Sailor of Fortune
• i'd come but i'm several thousand miles away : dirge23
• Dont know for sure yet if I can make it, but if I am around that weekend I'll be there. : AltZero
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  wow around my neck of the woods : mayooms
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    You have NO excuse to not come. Bay Area Shackers are so damn lazy and hard to convince them to drive 30 ... : OverloadUT
    • You got a point. I know a shacker that went to one a few years back. Said he had an awesome time. Haha : mayooms
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      I think the key is to just commit to coming early, so you make plans. THAT'S IT, I AM COMING. I wil... : MaxPete82
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        That's true. If you just commit to coming and put it on your calendar, you will end up coming and having ... : OverloadUT
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          If i cant convince my fellow shacker to go i may head out by myself. Im a shy person. :-/ haha : mayooms
          • all shackers are shy. you will fit right in. : dahanese
          • The idea might be scary if you're shy but really I think you'll find yourself comfortable. There will be ... : OverloadUT
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  I'm in the bay area. I don't post much and I doubt anyone knows me, should I come??? : FlamingGimp
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    if i can make it to this one, i am going to bring a giant pill grenade and shove it down your throat. : SolveChrist
    • Haha. TF2 duels drinking game! : FlamingGimp
  • Yes! Lurkers are definitely welcome! : OverloadUT
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    Absolutely! Bay Area shackers are fucking awesome. I had a great time at Overload's last shackmeat and wo... : yosemiteclimber
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      then you threatened to beat me up :( good times! : mikecyb
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        Next time we meet I'm going to pin you down and shave your head all the while screaming "FOR AJAX!" Also ... : yosemiteclimber
        • no, the source of my powers! : mikecyb
  • everyone knows you jj! : dopeman
• Last one was fun. I'm gonna try really hard to be there. : SqueegyTBS
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  Novato? More like NO... vato. : mikecyb
  • domo arigatoo, mr novato! : Dave-A
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  Would the firing range cost money? About how much? : mysled
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    For the firing range, you generally pay for ammo and the range fee. At the one we go to, there are two... : OverloadUT
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      I'd suggest just doing a skeet only (shotgun) deal this time. We had a ton of people last time and not en... : yosemiteclimber
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          I was in Vegas when that meet happened. Otherwise there would have been a beretta px4 9mm, and an hk usp ... : racer5
          • That'd be cool if you can make it! : OverloadUT

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• I’m not talking about extra dimensions of space-time, dark matter or even black holes that eat the : WhatIsThisFor
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  I remember reading something about that a while back... it's so fucking crazy. Physics resembles magic... : MagicWishMonkey
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    "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." - Clarke's Third Law : Arcanum
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      Yea but this shit is just getting ridiculous. : MagicWishMonkey
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        So you are equivalent to a TechnoWishMonkey? : one random winner
        • This shit will eat into my bottom line, I'll need a government bailout. : MagicWishMonkey
    • Oh damnit : LoioshDwaggie
  • Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. : LoioshDwaggie
• http://gizmodo.com/5048646/girl-commits-suicide-over-lhc-doomsday-predictions if only she would have kno... : ass-street
• good excuse for not being able to finish your physics homework : mrtony
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  • They will check the serial number. : MagicWishMonkey
  • They won't but they are pretty certain they are nearing a limit. : Jiven
  • Planck length is as far as they will probably ever be able to detect. Theoretically strings are exactly ... : WhatIsThisFor
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  I wish I had a particle named after me. The hypothesized Dave-A particle has eluded physicists for years, : Dave-A
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    I also hope at least one person at the LHC has walked around the facility loudly singing TMBG's "Particle... : Dave-A
    • I would imagine that's probably a daily occurrence. : Conan
    • Universe man, Universe man, goin' back in time and sabotaging the LHC-man : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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  So, I'm still not clear on what the theory is. Is this guy suggesting that people from the future are tr... : kek
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    The theory seems to be that the artificial creation of a Higgs bosun would be so catastrophically bad for... : Arcanum
    • I think I would have preferred the "people from the future" theory. :( : kek
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      Doesn't that suggest some sort of universal intelligence? : theghostofsmdever
      • Hehe, you're dangerously close to starting a philosophical/religious debate. : one random winner
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        Nope. : Rich McNinch
        • C'mon the universe is that subtle? To marginally disable the device that destroys the universe? If ther... : kek
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          How is the universe self correcting to some random event it has no awareness of? : theghostofsmdever
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            You're already treating it like it is self aware when you ask that question. : ArcKnight
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              Perhaps, but I can't see how the universe could 'self correct' and 'self correct' in a way that simply ... : theghostofsmdever
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                Well, imagine any reflexive action within a natural system, how a thing responds to a stimulus. Now apply... : Home Nugget
                • ...aaaaand I mis-read your post entirely. Ignore what I said. : Home Nugget
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                And that proves nothing. The universe self-corrects things all the time. It abhors a vacuum, etc. You ... : DinK
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                  I am not filling it in with God, in fact the idea that they are proposing sound even more improbable than... : theghostofsmdever
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                    I am not filling it in with God, ... the only explanation could be god. : DinK
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                      And before that I said God was improbable much like their idea. The who thing is ludicrous. Its a 9 billi... : theghostofsmdever
                      • Like I said below I don't think having a bunch of problems means they don't know how to fix it, but regar... : DinK
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            Sharpen your pencil. Now push it against a desk. The lead breaks. That's all I'm seeing here. There's... : Rich McNinch
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              No, I don't see that. This is like the pencil sharpener getting disabled when you push your pencil again... : kek
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                That would be taking the analogy further than it has any right to be taken. Forget about the pencil shar... : Rich McNinch
                • I was thinking, pencil = Higgs boson, desk = Universe, pencil sharpener = LHC. I wouldn't think the ... : kek
      • It suggests the mechanisms behind the operation of the universe are not universally the same in any given... : pieman
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        No. Push a balloon under water and it will pop back up to the surface, O3 is unstable and will "attack" o... : SnakeIRye
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          I can see the whole every action has a reaction thing, but it still boggles my mind that the reaction to ... : theghostofsmdever
          • Possibly because of http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21137701#itemanchor_21137701 ? : one random winner
          • I think even that explanation is too specific. They do know how to fix it. I think the answer is more l... : DinK
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            Aaaargh stop abusing Newton's Third Law. It does not apply here. And sure, it's probably a bunk theory... : AlexW1203
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              Its that the law that its not a cookie or a cake? : theghostofsmdever
              • Boo to you, I say, dever. Boo. : AlexW1203
          • Oh, I agree. The thing is like a mile long and extremely complicated. It was just a matter of time before... : SnakeIRye
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        That's like saying that cereal boxes are smart for putting all the crumbly bits at the bottom. : sgtsanity
        • Its nothing like that. It would be like saying the cereal box wouldn't pour no matter how much you tipped... : theghostofsmdever
      • Think of it in terms of two magnets repelling each other. : Marrbe
    • yeah were all going to die because a couple of nerds want to impress the hot chick in the glasses that do... : stgdz
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      Far more likely, we're hitting some physics wall we don't have a real theory for yet. This is just a bad... : one random winner
      • I'm thinking the hypotheses was dumbed down to the writer of the article. : Rich McNinch
    • That's not nearly as cool as I interpreted it. I thought they meant that the creation of the particle ... : Vincent Grayson
    • While it is a paradox to go back in time and kill your grandfather, physicists agree there is no paradox : Cihte
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  I am going to start using that as an excuse.. "I sent you the payment but the effects of me doing so m... : theghostofsmdever
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    That second one wouldn't necessarily go well, if she was any kind of smart, it could correlate to the chi... : one random winner
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      thermonuclear orgasm : ass-street
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        living total protonic reversal? : one random winner
        • this looks extraordinarily bad. http://www.cinemablend.com/images/news_img/12567/12567.jpg : ass-street
    • or blows a load like a shotgun : zakazi
• this sounds like BS science. an unpublished paper too : crummynz
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  Do you remember in grade school when you wrote that BASIC program that drew a cheesy particle explosion a... : Omaha
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    That's the answer. Our universe and everyone and everything in it is a computer simulation run by an ali... : kek
    • For all we'd know inside our sim-verse, they'd be right. : Conan
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  what are the doomsday people saying could happen? another big bang on a smaller scale or somthing? : vassili_zaitsev
  • small black holes created at LHC eat up earth and strangelets being created which would then turn all mat... : xxx2xxx
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  LHC, I'm really happy for you and I'm gonna let you finish, but I just gotta say that the universe create... : BaronVonChocula
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    • I tried but my camera broke... : BaronVonChocula
• Of all the loony theories chasing themselves around the LHC, this is my far my favorite. So fucking crazy... : ConfusedUs
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  ugh how does pseudoscience get covered by the nytimes : indosauros
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    Because qualified science writers are very rare. : Lone Swordsman
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      And junk science sells. : SnakeIRye
      • This fucking article calls this "proposal" a revolutionary theory in science. How the hell does somethin... : DinK
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    It's not "psuedoscience", though. : Cihte
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      It's quackery. Whatever you want to call it. : indosauros
      • How do you know? : WhatIsThisFor
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        Most accepted theories started out that way.. : Reeves
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          And it remains quackery until it can be proven. This article is completely mired in logical fallacies an... : indosauros
          • You sir, have a point. : Reeves
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          But they weren't called "accepted theories" at that time. : DinK
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            My point is that strange theories shouldn't be discounted as 'quackery'. : Reeves
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              claims have to have some bit of grounding. Stating detecting the higgs boson will destroy the universe is... : GloriousCow
              • But before people criticize such claims, they should understand what those claims actually are; and, even : Cihte
          • They were called hypotheses. Some were failed, some moved on to be theories. : SnakeIRye
  • Neither Holger Bech Nielse or Masao Ninomiya are authors of pseudoscience. : WhatIsThisFor
• All this story tells me is that intelligent scientists can still have imaginations and just make up shit ... : DinK
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  Another way to look at it is: - If any universe where the LHC generates the Higgs boson is immediately... : Johnny Law
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    Unless of course we generate a Higgs Boson in fifteen minutes time and then cease to exist. : theghostofsmdever
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      if there was going to be a higgs boson in fifteen minutes we would already have ceased to exist : dirge23
      • Oh right. : theghostofsmdever
  • That makes more sense. : crummynz
  • This is a much more brain-compatible way to look at it. : DinK
  • You mean you're taking the future into account? : Marrbe
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  As the shacker who lives closest to the LHC, I promise to report any anomalous occurrences. Most days I ... : MisterClaw
  • I demand you break in and go stand in the middle waiting for a Quickening : d fluke
• blah blah blah - NO : llamameat
• i still love this site http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/ : CoRDS

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  Based on the advice I received in yesterday's morning chatty, I decided to try for Pure Black and Pure Wh... : Rehevkor
  • Ahh that reminds me, before I go and kill the final boss I should probably go through each world with bla... : mastermike569
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    You know...to someone that has never seen/played that game...I have no idea WTF you're on. I can only ima... : devnullgt
    • How silly. Normal people never read latestchatty. : Rehevkor
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  Hmm, so has anybody actually killed King Allant by themselves without losing a soul level? I tried killi... : mastermike569
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    Yep, I did. Did it at level 79, too. : DianeOfTheMoon
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      Haha how many Soul Levels did you lose to him? : mastermike569
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        Zero, Zilch, Nada. I never tried to do a stand up fight with him, so whenever he did that move, I watche... : DianeOfTheMoon
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          So you basically melee'd him or did him from range. : mastermike569
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            melee, but I would dink a solo hit with demonbrandt and then hightail it out of there. Didn't want to ge... : DianeOfTheMoon
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              Ahh so needless to say, your scuffle with King Allant was a long one? : mastermike569
              • It wasn't too long, about 5 minutes or so. Flamelurker took much longer. : DianeOfTheMoon
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    This makes me a little scared to face him. I get frustrated easily at hard bosses. Especially when they... : JamesArhy
    • He can be pretty hard, I'm a perfectionist so when I get nailed for a soul level i'd be pretty upset abou... : mastermike569
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  I love that every post I read about this game is about another section of the game entirely and I have ye... : zuff
  • Awesome, I'm pretty sure you will have a blast. : mastermike569
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    I've put about 30 hours into it and I haven't even entered world 5 yet, and I've only beaten the first bo... : Rehevkor
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      Yikes, I must be rushing through the game too fast. I'm at 26 hours and level 108 Soul level and only h... : mastermike569
      • Farm 4-2 much? :P : JamesArhy
    • I'm at like 15 hrs and have only done 1-1, 1-2, and 2-1. Almost finished with 3-1 though! : Rasnowl
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  So, in new game+ the difficulty gets cranked to 11...just died on the dogs at the beginning of 2-1. If... : DianeOfTheMoon
  • New game + was a bitch starting out for me the first time. I can only imagine how important blue phanto... : mastermike569
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    I'll probably do this too. This being my first playthrough I've missed many Crystal Lizard spawns, probab... : Rehevkor
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      Yeah, I'm thinking Mag+Int+Str with just enough in other areas to use the weapons. I think that with my ... : DianeOfTheMoon
      • I think with mine, I put too much into luck and that is at 13. I put enough dex in so that I could use t... : mastermike569
  • I'm debating doing NG+ right now or trying to come up with some low level build that I can equip the bare... : ghost in my shell
  • I think it'd be too easy doing that. Once you know the levels a lot of the first game's challenge isn't ... : Boxelder
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  What's the replay value on this game? Obviously it's difficult to beat, but once you do - then what? : jingletard
  • Well, there's the base level of the game, plus a special event that opens up for getting worlds to pure w... : DianeOfTheMoon
  • Do it again on New Game+, even harder. Invade people's games as a black phantom and wreak havoc. Create a... : Rehevkor
  • It has a New Game+ mode. You start with all your equipment and stats, but the enemies are much harder. : silent prophet
  • Dont forget about ranking, there is player ranking for various things like most souls collected, etc. Th... : mastermike569
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    New Game+ And after that, there's an even harder New Game+ And after that, there's an even harder New G : walker270
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      Well I hear that after beating new game + it really does'nt get much harder. : mastermike569
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        I think it was, NG -> NG+ was ~50% increase, and NG+ -> NG++ was ~10%, or something like that. Not a hug... : walker270
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          Yea I almost forgot about that. I will not be looking forward to some of those bosses. Some bosses wer... : mastermike569
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            How do you hate Old Hero? The fight is a joke. : Majuju
            • All of the bosses he mentioned are hard for someone playing a heavy armor + melee build. All three have ... : walker270
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  So there isn't a 360 version of this game? :( : g0nk
  • Sadly there is not. Maybe Demons Souls 2 will have it. With the success of this game, i cant see why t... : mastermike569
  • Nope. It was published by Sony in Japan, so it's not likely to happen. : Rehevkor
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  I finally beat world 3... Phantom Legions - I found out that melee may not be the best choice for the : JamesArhy
  • Old Monk - I actually had a player to fight for the first time. Asian version I did not get the luxury.... : mastermike569
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  A friend told me this was the spiritual successor to the King's Field series, is that correct? : LoioshDwaggie
  • If it is, I'm buying a PS3. Fucking loved the Kings Field games. : g0nk
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    Yes : pancake humper
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      I should read wikipedia before I ask that I guess -- King's Field IV was released several years later for... : LoioshDwaggie
      • Yeah, it's the same people : pancake humper
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  Question for those of you who have the game: Is there any bullshit with motion control? If there is, can ... : theangrywaffles
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    There is no motion control (unless you do the stupid emotes that no one does) : pancake humper
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      Fantastic. Adding it to my list. : theangrywaffles
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        Fucking hate PS3 motion control and I am glad devs for the PS3 aren't including it as much anymore. Such ... : pancake humper
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          I hate it too, seriously fucks games up when they try and incorporate it into gameplay : mastermike569
          • I wish devs would add more NON-GAMEPLAY motion control- say in demons souls, maybe hold a button and moti... : confuseatron
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          Motion control is quickly becoming an issue of accessibility and I wish Sony would require that developer : theangrywaffles
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            Uncharted 2 has ZERO motion controls in it. : pancake humper
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              the grenades are now 500000000 billion trillion times better : gmd
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                dudes only take 1-3 bullets!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Headshot detection is a lot better to. God 3:45 needs to fuckin... : pancake humper
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                  update, I have it along with a 10,000 calorie lunch, will report back in 8 hours : gmd
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                    post picts : pancake humper
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                      http://www.shackpics.com/files/iPhoneUpload_qpkbnhowcs1ihbkr987d.jpg : gmd
                      • hooray meat! : hamachi
                      • haha that lunch looks fucking terrible : pancake humper
                      • Enjoy your "chicken" : tashtego
                      • 4 of those hours are going to be spent groaning and punishing whatever unfortunate toilet you rush into : Majuju
            • How will I retain my balance on logs?! : getfrisky
            • That's great news. I couldn't find any information about the controls in reviews :( : theangrywaffles
        • I liked it's usage in MGS4. : melkore
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      I didnt even know you could do emotes with motion controls. Thought you always held down X then a menu w... : mastermike569
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        Yeah, you can hold down X and do the motion control before the menu comes out. : pancake humper
        • Haha I might have to give that a try. : mastermike569
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    A couple of games have done it well. Zombie Apocalypse's use of it is perfect, and Ratchet and Clank's fr... : Ebu
    • Killzone 2's scoped breath control was also a really good use. I guess it was intended to simulate holdin... : carbontree
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  I was talking with my wife last night about the game and came up with a great analogy: Demon's Souls is a : warcrow
  • There is a pattern to his fire breath attack. Just stand at the foot of the stairs and observe for a minu... : dewdman
  • A good strategy to beat the Blue Dragon: Get him to kill the two Fat Ministers. Take off all your equipme : ucanbfuzzy
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  yesterday I was playing 3-1 and I left my mark to join someones game like I normally do and something hap : Lawgiver
  • You get to keep the hat ??? The same thing happened to me and I was horribly confused: http://www.sha... : MrLobo
  • Badass isn't it. You got to be someone's world 3 boss :D : SolrFlare
• I just have to say I think the level design in this game is fantastic. It oddly reminds me of playing Qua... : Lawgiver
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  What's all this talk about Black & White Tendency? : Rotten Deadite
  • http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/world-tendency : tashtego
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  Fuck the red skeletons in 4-1! My purple shield > your rolling around bullshit : breadsticks
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    Those guys rape me. I was trying to get that bow in the beginning of that level and went back to 2-1 inst... : tashtego
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      White Bow = rape! : pancake humper
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        I can't even get the white bow without going past those guys! : tashtego
        • Snipe them from afar : pancake humper
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        Here is the argument White Bow vs Lava Bow? Which one is better? : mastermike569
        • I like the Lava Bow (just for extra fire damage) but it's more costly to get over the White Bow. White Bo... : pancake humper
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          In terms of power : Sticky + 5 > Lava > White In terms of ease to get : White > Lava > Sticky + 5 Get... : walker270
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            Yea, I also heard Viscous white or compound bow was pretty good. : mastermike569
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              "Viscous" and "Sticky" are the same. "Sticky" is the name for the US release, while "Viscous" was used i... : walker270
              • Thanks for pointing that out, I'm just starting to get used to these name changes and noticing the others... : mastermike569
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                That's an odd change. I would have assumed it was the other way around. : Rehevkor
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                  They didn't change Sticky White Stuff as a weapon buff! : walker270
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                    I bet they left that so people could leave messages that say "Sticky White Stuff". I found one directly i... : Rehevkor
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                      haha that was my message : pancake humper
                      • (the girl sitting on the ledge behind the Blacksmith right?) : pancake humper
                      • haha, I put one of these messages down too. :) : bakanoodle
                    • We were in the totally same server because I saw the one as well! : f1kt1t1ous
                • We're appearently too stupid now for big words like 'viscous.' :) : silent prophet
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              Stick = Vicious in US version : pancake humper
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                Heh. I think you mean Viscous, which is probably exactly why they made the change - so people wouldn't th... : Fayk
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                  Hmm I thought it was Vicious. Maybe I just read it fast and assumed it was Vicious. If it was Viscous, th... : pancake humper
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                    viscous |ˈviskəs| adjective having a thick, sticky consistency between solid and liquid; having ... : Fayk
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                      You can have a high viscous rating w/o being sticky though! :D : pancake humper
                      • Sticky is easier for us dumb round-eyes to understand though. : CyCo_PL
        • Where does Laura Bow fit into all of this? : Omaha
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    Toss Soul Remains and distract them and run by! : ghost in my shell
    • Fuck that - I know how to kill the little fuckers now. They can all die now. : breadsticks
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    Speed his key to melee those guys. Lock on, hit them as soon as they roll up on you, before they can atta... : silent prophet
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      I just shield block until they stun themselves rolling into me. Sometimes they break soon for a swing an... : breadsticks
      • And with purple shield +3, I take no damage - just sta drain which is easy to recover : breadsticks
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    That level was such bullshit. It was kind of easy, I get to the boss, I check out a video on YouTube to s... : Ellissd
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      4-1 = Adjucator right? Was simple for me, stood up top with a bow and rained damage down to his weak ... : pancake humper
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        I did it with a sword and shield and just made some pretty stupid mistakes. He was in fact pretty easy af... : Ellissd
        • 2-2 was hardest boss for me so far, that guy just destroyed me. : piser
    • Enchant weapon just murdered him. He's all about the stick-n-run, too. Run in, slash thrice, back out... : walker270
    • i beat him alone my first try :( quick rolling is key and he makes it obvious when he's about to strike : eeeealmo
  • As soon as they clank against your shield just start swinging until they die. They are stunned for a mom... : Boxelder
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  My poor wallet. Where would be the best place to import this to the UK, if anyone has? PS3 games generall... : Guybrushed
  • Correct, PS3 is region free and if you have an HDTV, you won't have any problems playing an imported game... : ahlee
• I like how this game seems to appeal to me the way Ninja Gaiden appeals to me. It's like an abusive, sad... : Omaha
• I could play this all day if it wasn't for the wife, baby, job, Mark V amp. : Pneum0
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  I've never played a game that has caused my heart to pump so hard before. I guess it happened back in th... : Thud
  • Hah there are times during some bosses or fights when I just find a corner and take a moment to chill so ... : d3tached
  • Just wait till you get invaded by other players. The waiting till they finally show up and attack you is ... : carbontree
• Damn you all for making me want to buy a PS3 when I'm totally broke! Damn you all to hell! : Anastomosis
• I dorked around in the character screen for like an hour. It felt like starting Oblivion all over again!!... : Downforce
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  Speculation regarding Demon's Souls 2 Given the critical success of Demon's Souls, it seems likely tha... : David Craddock
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    I don't think the core mechanics of the Armored Core series has changed (for the worse) since the series ... : walker270
    • That'd be fine with me! : David Craddock
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      It will likely be difficult to better the experience and add totally new things to this particular game, ... : one random winner
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        Agreed. First of all I would like to see some DLC to add a new world for that broken archstone. Beyond th... : Rehevkor
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          Are you kidding? You NEVER get to enter the Giant's Archstone? The broken one next to the Tower of Latria... : f1kt1t1ous
          • I'd love to see some DLC for that stone to open up. : mastermike569
      • Well, from what I remember of the Armored Core reviews, the biggest reason they tend to get poor/mediocre... : walker270
  • From Software has a pretty good track record of not gimping anything. I'd expect Demons Souls 2 to be no... : mastermike569
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    has it been a big seller? i am sorta curious if the reviews all saying how hard it was have driven peopl... : grendel
    • All I have to say is, if this is what counts as "brutally difficult," I wonder what adjectives they'd hav... : walker270
  • Deus Ex 2'd ? : MuteMode
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    It's the 5 game in this series, so yes, there will be a sequel. : LoioshDwaggie
    • fifth : LoioshDwaggie
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      I wouldn't consider Bioshock to be a true sequel to System Shock anymore than Demon's Souls is a true seq... : Haku-Jin
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        I was thinking the same thing, but I've never played any of the King's Field games so I have no clue how ... : qwpeoriu
        • I played the first King's Field and from what I remember it had about 0 in common with Demon's Souls, alt... : veras
  • I wouldn't mind a slightly easier way to coordinate co-op sessions with friends in the next game. At leas... : carbontree
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  Pure White Tendency in World 2 So I already beat the 2-2 boss, and from what I read getting pure white t... : mrseldowski
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    You can still get PWT if the 2-3 boss is alive. Get PBT by suiciding in body form, then kill the Primeval : Rehevkor
    • Sweet! I actually went to fight Dragon God and he fuckin almost killed me in 1 hit, I don't think I knew ... : mrseldowski
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      I'm so confused on the White/Black Tendency bit. Like who is the Primeval Demon? When you kill a demon i... : f1kt1t1ous
      • Yea there are 2 more phantoms that show up in each "World" when you get Pure Dark Tendency. 1 is the Prim... : mrseldowski
• Poison Cloud, Death Cloud. I have not dabbled in magic much but the higher your magic power, does that ... : mastermike569
• Stop talking about Demon's Souls, I have to start Uncharted. : Boxelder
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  meh I haven't played it and will probably never play it since i don't own a PS3, but after watching Gi... : skelom
  • haha your loss. : silent prophet
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    I blame the commentary on that quick look and this game cannot really be taken in just watching 20-30 min... : pancake humper
    • Watching some people play on justin.tv has convinced me people who have the ability to record playing con... : walker270
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    why did you feel the need to post that in this thread? : eeeealmo
    • everybody keeps raving about this game, so i watched the quick look, then i posted : skelom
    • Probably to make himself feel better about not being able to play it. Self deception is pretty awesome. : CyCo_PL
    • He is only posting how he feels. I would be confused also if i watch that video after all of the rage. I ... : RuffasBluetain
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    After watching Giant Bomb's quick look I get the sense that they are just sitting there being retards ins... : kikilupo
    • That was kind of my take away from it (disclosure: I didn't watch the whole thing, haven't had a chance) ... : Fayk
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    To be honest, whoever was playing in that review was an idiot. For example, a creature is throwing f... : yAak
    • i did get that impression as well... if i had a PS3 i would probably pick it up to see what all the fuss ... : skelom
  • Cool thanks for sharing : kill9
  • Haha, I just went to Giantbomb for the first time to see their quick look. The only thing it turned me o... : smax
  • * S K E L O M E H ' D * : CrustaR
  • I can't believe I watched most of that...they give it no effort, explain it like someone's played only an... : Rasnowl
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  I just beat my first archdemon and it was incredible. That's all. : cornchak
  • ?-? : RuffasBluetain
• this fucking game is sold out all over town >:( Also: I wanted to do the toys r us buy 2 get 1 free d... : sKetchflow
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  OH SHIT I just read online that the guy I relased from the cage last night in 3-2 guy in Black armourn, : mrseldowski
  • he drops sweet ass armor when you kill him in the nexus : pancake humper
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    Sorry dude he kills them based on the ps3 internal clock within two hours, they are all dead except the b : ghost in my shell
    • PLEASE BE JOKING : mrseldowski
    • That's fucking awesome.. haha : walker270
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      couldn't he set the internal clock of the ps3 back several hours, kill the dude, then reset the clock to : sKetchflow
      • There is the theory of the Mobius, where time becomes a loop... : massdev
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      fuck i hope this is false :( : eeeealmo
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        well i just checked all the NPC's in the nexus are there except sad blue guy sitting on the stairs : eeeealmo
        • that guy goes away eventually anywa fuck I just freed him too and forgot, gotta play the game now : DeBurgo
      • I am joking, I think it's after you trigger boss kills/other shit that he will start his thing : ghost in my shell
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      He only shows up in the nexus once you defeat a boss demon after freeing him. : silent prophet
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        then he'll start assassinating people unless you kill him. : silent prophet
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          So can I just go to 3-2 and kill him where I freed him? I am assuming yes : mrseldowski
          • Not sure, but if he is still there hanging around, yeah, kill him there and be done with it. You'll have : silent prophet
          • Yes, you can. That's what I did, and I've been running around in his awesome armor ever since. : CyCo_PL
  • Just wait until something goes wrong then hunt him down. I think you're fine (I hope, for your sake) as l... : Fayk
  • I'm waiting to get both my console and this game some i'm not clicking the spoilers. I think that makes t... : shavenewok
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  Red Dragon down, many shiny things acquired. For reference, with a +3 compound longbow and 22 strength i... : Johnny Law
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    I'm actually a little startled that the big shield + spear combo is such an effective "turtle" approach t... : Johnny Law
    • Yeah you'll definitely want to keep your dodge skills well honed. Plus dodging is just more fun. Ri... : smax
  • heh, i used a level 0 crossbow of the suck for the red dragon. took me 200 arrows and about 15 soul arro... : smax
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    Do you get a trophy for taking him out? : Ellissd
    • You get a nice fat soul, but no trophy. : Johnny Law
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    I LOVE going back to that first red knight and raping his face. He caused me so much grief when I first s... : OverloadUT
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      where do you get that key from? to the door he guards? : nevlos
      • I believe that key is the one you get for rescuing Ostrava in 1-1, then 1-2, then 1-3 and then meeting hi : OverloadUT
• Fuck I need to get this game. : razlebol
• Finally got my compound long bow from this dick skeletons on 4-1! : tashtego
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  Gah, what happens when you are the host in a game, and one of your blue guys dies? It seems like they jus... : nevlos
  • Nope. : Johnny Law
  • They get sent back to their world. : Ellissd
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    Hahahaha respawn? This isn't your grandma's game! Nah, they get disconnected and returned to their own... : OverloadUT
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      Haha, okay. fuck it was cool to have a squad of my servants running around though, one knight was fucking... : nevlos
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        Yeah, having Phantoms makes the game MUCH easier and much safer. Most Phantoms know its their job to run ... : OverloadUT
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          I've totally missed out on it until 4-1, and it was fucking awesome. Had to do the boss battle solo thoug... : nevlos
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            Both are fun. Playing AS a Phantom is a great way to learn a level for the first time because you can jus... : OverloadUT
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              Do you collect souls of enemies? : nevlos
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                Yes. You get souls for every enemy that is killed, and more importantly, you get your body back if you su... : OverloadUT
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                  Do you get less souls if you summon people? : nevlos
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                    Not as far as I can tell. There's no reason not to summon people unless you like a bigger challenge. : OverloadUT
                    • Any disadvantage to suiciding in the nexus to go into soul form so you can try out a level? I'm about to ... : nevlos
• Can we talk weapon upgrades? I currently have +3 winged spear, halberd, and compound longbow, so they ... : Johnny Law
• You know what FUCKING SUCKS? Rescuing Ostrava in every level, but in 1-3 not realizing that there was a l... : OverloadUT