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    October 7, 2009 6:01 PM

    Shall we discuss Demon's Souls?

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      October 7, 2009 6:01 PM

      who beat who?

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      October 7, 2009 6:01 PM

      I just beat the Red Dragon in 1-2.

      .... yeah....

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        October 7, 2009 6:05 PM

        How many times have you died so far?

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        October 7, 2009 7:10 PM

        I'm trying to cross the bridge with two blue knights and a cluster of arches at one end. I'm sandwiched between that happy crowd and the dragon's fire. Any tips?

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          October 7, 2009 7:21 PM

          If you time it right, you can run back after you draw the blue eyed knight's attention and he'll be roasted by the dragon. I tried this and it only worked every once in a while.

          The better way to beat them is to just be a good fighter :)

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          October 7, 2009 8:02 PM

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            October 7, 2009 8:33 PM

            I find that going straight at them with my poleaxe and no shield and just whacking him repeatedly kills him before he can get a shot off. Sadly this is not an option with archers around.

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            October 7, 2009 8:37 PM

            If you're using a small shield, you can shield bash as soon as he's about to hit you and stun him, he'll go down in 1-2 hits.

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      October 7, 2009 6:05 PM

      gah im making myself beat Uncharted before i pick this up. Can't wait to get it though! (And RISEN for PC)

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        October 7, 2009 7:55 PM

        You better just get Risen. The other will take your soul. No joke, I've put in 9 hours so far today and really haven't gotten anywhere

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      October 7, 2009 6:08 PM

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      October 7, 2009 6:09 PM

      my ps3 paypal fund has not grown at all :(

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      October 7, 2009 6:09 PM

      Someone better have it in stock tomorrow

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      October 7, 2009 6:10 PM

      I lost count of how many times I died trying to beat the boss of 2-2. Melee isn't a very good idea against that one. I ended up having to skip around to other worlds and pick up a badass sword and ring to FINALLY beat him.

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      October 7, 2009 6:10 PM

      This game is kind of difficult.

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        October 7, 2009 7:22 PM

        I would've never guessed that in a thousand years!

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      October 7, 2009 6:10 PM

      I look forward to playing it tomorrow night!

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      October 7, 2009 6:13 PM

      I only have the option of playing in offline mode. I kind of wish I could see the other phantoms and see the notes and stuff, but god damn I love this game. I'm having a blast just farming 1-1. I would like to get some new armor for my wanderer guy though. Is there any lighter armor to be found in 1-2?

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      October 7, 2009 6:16 PM

      I wandered around in the castle, and I got to the point where the BIG BIG GATE is opened (the one right in front of the starting area) and i'm afraid to go cause i have 3500 souls. i went in the nexus, repaired all my stuff, upgraded my lance. can't spend more souls, can't "secure" them. i'm 90% sure i'll die at the boss too :( i'm scared.

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        October 7, 2009 6:17 PM

        If you die in a boss area, when you respawn can you just run in grab your stuff and flee?

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          October 7, 2009 6:21 PM

          i have no idea :(

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            October 7, 2009 6:26 PM

            Nope, if you die in a boss fight you have to start the fight again to recover the souls. And you can't leave the arena until one of you is dead.

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              October 7, 2009 6:32 PM

              well that's not 100% the case, there are rare consumable items that warp you out, and there's a really expensive (20,000 souls) miracle you can get that'll do the same

              but yeah generally if you die in a boss area you can kiss those souls goodbye

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              October 7, 2009 8:16 PM

              well if you recover the souls before dying again, you just drop them to the bloodstain again. they're not gone forever.

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        October 7, 2009 6:34 PM

        Use turpentine on your weapon before the boss and you'll kick his ass sea bass

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        October 7, 2009 7:11 PM

        That boss is pretty simple. Just make sure you equip a steel weapon with turpentine]. Hack away, run, hack away, run, hack away... it should be dead.

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      October 7, 2009 6:23 PM

      I've got a couple games to play before I'm going to pick something new up, so would you all stfu?

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      October 7, 2009 6:33 PM

      I'm fucked. I died once killed the blob boss then I died again. What fucking boss is there for me to kill?

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        October 7, 2009 6:35 PM

        Lots and lots of bosses. I can think of four more in the first world alone.

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          October 7, 2009 7:15 PM

          Can you tell me where a semi easy one would be? The only other things I find on the map are

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            October 7, 2009 7:15 PM

            2 huge dragons and I can't get close to them. Where are the others???

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            October 7, 2009 7:24 PM

            2-1 in the mines. The boss is pretty easy once you figure out its pattern.

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            October 7, 2009 11:28 PM

            All of the first bosses in each world are pretty easy. I would say hop into each of them and kill at least the first boss (World 4, the Storm Tower, lets you get revenge on the Demon that wrecked your sauce in the tutorial level)..

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      October 7, 2009 6:44 PM

      Somebody please tell me who to kill after the tower knight in the first area :(

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        October 7, 2009 7:23 PM

        Move onto the worlds. You can't get into the area after the TK until you clear the entire 2nd world iirc.

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      October 7, 2009 6:48 PM

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      October 7, 2009 6:51 PM

      Dagger +4 upgrade or Quality Dagger +1?

      What is the difference? Quality Dagger goes down to 75 attack. Dagger +4 goes up to 91 :/

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        October 7, 2009 7:37 PM

        It is a downgrade, but a quality dagger +4 will be better than a plain dagger +4. It's kind of a pain :(.

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          October 7, 2009 8:57 PM

          welp, looks like upgrade farming in 1-2 is in order

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            October 8, 2009 5:46 AM

            Go to 2-1, you'll get an insane number of upgrade items there (it is a mine, after all).

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      October 7, 2009 6:52 PM

      Alright lame noob question, I died in the tutorial area, how do I get back to it? Seems like I can only go to the Small King archstone?

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      October 7, 2009 6:56 PM

      got the last copy at eb amd it was hidden on the wrong shelf! do i need to install this? I don't really play games on my PS3...

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      October 7, 2009 7:04 PM

      I'm so paranoid about attacking the store keepers that I know it's going to happen eventually.

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        October 7, 2009 7:08 PM

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          October 7, 2009 7:10 PM

          I've hit everyone several times; they get pissed draw their weapons, but I have yet to be struck back, do they raise their prices or cut off certain services?

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            October 7, 2009 7:29 PM

            Nothing happens i think unless you kill them. Once killed though, they don't revive until you move onto newgame+ etc.

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      October 7, 2009 7:13 PM

      Damnit! If I see one more Demon's Souls post I might just have to buy the game. That'd bring my total of games to buy by the end of the year up to 7 and I'll be buggered if I'm playing all of those games.

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      October 7, 2009 7:26 PM

      OK, I've had the game for a few months now. I still cannot stand the world of 3-x. The tower of latria sucked as melee because I was always caught and seemed to get in an endless loop of death once they got ahold of me.

      I can't find any blue souls to help me out either. I suck at scary games :(

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      October 7, 2009 7:42 PM

      Finally beat 1-1 tonight. Now my wanderer is rolling with a Spear +2. One question, what stats do you need to equip a Purple Flame shield?

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        October 7, 2009 11:26 PM

        I think 22 Str is the only stat you need for the PFS.

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      October 7, 2009 7:45 PM

      I restarted as Royalty and I'm loving this game much more now. I spent hours yesterday getting to and being killed by the 1-2 boss Temple Knight. With my new character, I got to him and beat him within 45 minutes. So easy :D

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        October 7, 2009 7:54 PM

        Did you use range attacks? I keep trying to kill him with my sword and its hard in melee range.

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          October 7, 2009 7:58 PM

          just used the spell 'soul arrow'. I was never able to get close to killing him with my knight and melee

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            October 7, 2009 7:59 PM

            Yeah I think I'm just going to get a bow and kill him that way. I almost killed him with melee last night.

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          October 7, 2009 8:07 PM

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            October 8, 2009 12:50 AM

            That was my strategy as well :D.

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        October 7, 2009 9:03 PM

        When do you get to pick a class?

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          October 7, 2009 9:03 PM

          When making your character.

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            October 7, 2009 10:19 PM

            Okay, I must've completely blanked out then. What's the default class?

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      October 7, 2009 7:56 PM

      Thief ring rules!

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      October 7, 2009 8:02 PM

      Easy Dragon Roost Raid

      Not sure if anyone's posted this, but here's how I easily looted the red dragon's roost in the first world.

      1. Beat the Phalanx Boss.
      2. Use the Phalanx's Archstone to return to the Nexus. Take care of business there.
      3. Warp to world 1-2.
      4. Go to the dragon's roost. He'll be busy attacking battlements far away from home; all you'll have to do is make your way to the roost.

      Loot found: Flame shield; Ring of Great Strength (boost item equip stat); souls.

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      October 7, 2009 8:10 PM

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      October 7, 2009 8:11 PM

      So uhh... when can I start learning magic?

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        October 7, 2009 8:13 PM

        After beating Phalanx, you can buy spells and miracles from two guys in the Nexus, one on either side.

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      October 7, 2009 8:12 PM

      ok. died. Still haven't lost any souls. hard, but not AS hard as I was expecting.

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        October 7, 2009 8:17 PM

        I've been watching streams of people playing, it seems like some classes are way harder or different to play than others.

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        October 7, 2009 8:19 PM

        What are you playing as Boxelder?

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      October 7, 2009 8:22 PM

      What class are you playing as?

      I picked a wanderer, anyone else playing as one? Not sure what I think of him so far.

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        October 7, 2009 8:25 PM

        That's what I picked. I like it but I haven't really tried anything else. I bought some armor and I felt like I could barely move so I switched back to the starter armor.

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        October 7, 2009 8:31 PM

        Temple Knight! I fucking love the poleaxe

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        October 7, 2009 8:41 PM

        yea i have been sticking with 2-handed falchion but now im dying a lot in 1-2 :(

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          October 7, 2009 9:20 PM

          yeah 1-2 is rocking my face. the boss especially.

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        October 7, 2009 10:54 PM

        Playing solider with enough magic to cast God's Wrath. I just crafted the Meat Cleaver sword and have been rocking faces with it. Except for that damn Blue Dragon in 1-4. How do I shot arrows (I need a better bow)?

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        October 7, 2009 11:19 PM

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        October 8, 2009 5:44 AM

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        October 8, 2009 5:59 AM

        I'm playing as a thief and I don't like it.

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      October 7, 2009 8:29 PM

      I'm on 2-1 (I think) and I'm fighting the giant spider. How do I get rid of the cobwebs he gets me with??

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      October 7, 2009 8:36 PM

      I need to stop watching this http://www.justin.tv/vensito

      Otherwise I am going to have to get this game :/

      I find it hilarious that those guys are using xbl to chat because PSN sucks so much.

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      October 7, 2009 8:38 PM

      so pros/cons of 1-handed vs 2-handed?

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        October 7, 2009 8:46 PM

        for melee spear and shield is amazing my character is royalty. Basically being able to engage multiple enemies beyond intimate melee range while being mobile with rolls doing high damage and full protection from my body shield. Not to mention its great in tight spaces just think 300...

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      October 7, 2009 8:42 PM

      The castle of this first world really reminds me of ico.

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      October 7, 2009 9:05 PM

      Make sure you get and use the cling ring in 1-1. I guess a lot of people miss this.

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        October 7, 2009 9:17 PM

        Also make sure you get the Thief's Ring from where Ostrava is. I missed it, and I missed saving him, so I'm actually going to restart.

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          October 7, 2009 9:20 PM

          What does that one do? I can't remember if I got that.

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            October 7, 2009 9:21 PM

            Enemies are less likely to see you. You can sneak up on them.

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          October 7, 2009 9:22 PM

          you don't have to restart to go back to that area you know

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            October 7, 2009 9:29 PM

            Yeah I know, but the dude is dead and I want to go back and save him. Also I might try a straight up fighter class (was playing a thief)

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              October 7, 2009 9:36 PM

              npcs don't come back in this game. He's dead for good.

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                October 7, 2009 9:51 PM

                exactly, so I'm going to have to restart entirely.

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                  October 7, 2009 9:54 PM

                  Just don't activate his events if you are not ready. You want him alive trust me.

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                    October 7, 2009 10:20 PM

                    Fuck. i got in a fight with a knight with that dude right after I did that little event and he ended up dying (I may have stabbed him in the spine accidentally.) I'm only about half way through 1-2 (1-1 took me a while but I've gotten better.) Is it really worth starting over? :(

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                      October 7, 2009 10:26 PM

                      He drops or gives you the Masoleum key. Which you need to use to see the Old King Doran guy. If you kill the King you get a cool sword.

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                        October 7, 2009 10:29 PM

                        I looted a key from his corpse... Pretty sure it was called masoleum key. I guess I'm not boned then. woot.

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                October 7, 2009 9:52 PM

                Even if he restarts? That's hardcore!

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                  October 8, 2009 12:49 AM

                  I believe npc's respawn in newgame+'s. At least I've heard the shopkeepers do so I assume he'd be no different.

                  At least I hope this is the case because my friend saved him and god a telescope from him and I instinctively kicked his ass with my bow from a distance because he looked terrifying like every other enemy.

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      October 7, 2009 10:01 PM

      Could we discuss how my copy from Gamefly has a huge fucking crack in it and I can't play it? :(

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        October 7, 2009 10:05 PM

        I'd rather discuss the fact that I don't have a PS3 to play this on. It looks really fun.

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      October 7, 2009 10:20 PM

      Damn glad I bought this game. So far it's living up to the fun that you guys are talking about, so far, it's not that hard (just got my body back), but I am going really slow and careful. Weeee time to upgrade!

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      October 7, 2009 10:29 PM

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      October 7, 2009 10:29 PM

      Help Killing an Archfiend: How do I kill Miralda the Executioner?

      I've just killed the 1-2 boss (Tower Knight; so, so stressful and exhilarating!) but am unable to pass through the curtain of fog in his area because I haven't killed an Archfiend.

      I recently discovered the side passage in the first part of the 1-1 area, where a zombie/goblin (whatever they are) comes from to attack the player. The gate's now inexplicably open, so I ventured back there, killed the glowing red zombies/imps, but got owned by Miralda the Executioner.

      I presume she's an Archfiend, and killing her will allow me to progress through the fog in the Tower Knight's area. But I need tips for fighting her because she's fast and strong and mean.

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        October 7, 2009 10:48 PM

        She's not an Archfiend :(

        I run a heavy melee character, and I had to bait her into swinging her axe while I backed up. Lock onto her (R3) and then just towards and immediately away when she starts swinging that axe of hers. When she finishes her swing, give her a fast jab or a Soul Arrow. Also, I kited her up and down and around the platforms in the place where she spawns.

        She's a tough one, good luck.

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          October 7, 2009 10:50 PM

          Also, the easiest Archfiend to kill is the one in world 2, the Dragon-God. I would say do at least the first area of each world before you attempt 1-3, that's a tough section.

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          October 7, 2009 11:09 PM

          What does "kite" mean in DSouls context? Also, I'm a barbarian, so I'm also heavy melee. :( Sucks that she's not an Archfiend. I'll get to exploring other worlds, then. Thanks!

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            October 7, 2009 11:24 PM

            "Kite", as how I'm using it, means "don't make it a standup fight." In other words, always be backing up or circle-strafing around the target, staying just outside of their weapon range. When the target takes a swing at you, there's usually a short period of lag where their defenses are down and you can get one to two hits in. So the basic idea is to wait for them to attack, either block it or avoid it (not rolling though, that takes too much time), and then move into your weapon range while their defenses are down. I've had fantastic success with this strategy and 2-handers (Claymores, Great Swords, etc.).

            Also, the World 2 Arch is the one immediatly past the World 1 Arch. It's the Stonefang Tunnel.

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      October 7, 2009 11:15 PM

      1-1, 1-2, and 2-1 done. Spear and magic. Really pretty easy.

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      October 8, 2009 12:27 AM

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        October 8, 2009 12:42 AM

        red knight? wrong way.

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        October 8, 2009 5:55 AM

        heed the warnings everywhere - blood spatters, warning notes, and in general - if there's a big fucking dude taht's tough AVOID him. This game isn't as linear as you may think.

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      October 8, 2009 6:00 AM

      I'm still finding the Tower Knight to be pretty damn difficult. It's not that I don't know how to beat him - I've done it in spirit form assisting someone else in their world to get my body back....but when it's just me I find that if he gets you close and knocks you down he'll fuck you up and you won't have time to heal....he just takes so much damage per hit. I'm playing a soldier with a Knight's Shield +1 and Scimitar +1 and I a) take a lot of damage from him and b) am pretty slow. I did aquire soul arrow but I try shooting it at him and it does no dmg. Do I switch targets to his feet?

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        October 8, 2009 6:04 AM

        Everyone doing this boss....ATTACK HIS ANKLES. Use R3 targeting at his ankle and just focus on one. You have to not use R3 target when trying to navigate around him though.

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          October 8, 2009 6:20 AM

          Yeah I do that but if he catches you once and knocks you down he'll chain attacks together and it's hard to heal.

          Should I stay back and soul arrow his ankles? Is that even doable?

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            October 8, 2009 7:12 AM

            I'd drop some equipment to get your equipped burden to half (or less). This allows you to run and dodge significantly faster, helping you stay behind him for much of the fight.

            Took me two tries once I did this on my knight. He's slow enough to make dodging his stuff pretty easy, once you're more mobile.

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