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• the first 2 hours were firefight. then I played about half an hour of single player and I was done. : matrixneo42
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  I felt that ODST had some of the best campaign missions in the entire Halo series. : Zman0404
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    I've seen this comment and variations thereof (Best Halo Ever!) a few times, and while I do not begrudge : Haxim
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      Epic is not always great. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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        Oh I agree, but at least give me something to care about. Flat characters trying to flee from a situation... : Haxim
        • To be fair, I never cared about Halo's story. The campaign missions themselves were decent (I agree that ... : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • I don't mind the lack of an epic storyline. I think of it as more of a little vignette set in the larger ... : beanman101283
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      I never felt that Halo 1-3 were epic. They tried to be epic, but fell far short of it. The gameplay is ... : WhatIsThisFor
      • Epic was probably the wrong word. Interesting would probably be a better fit. I just felt like I was acti... : Haxim
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  That sounds ridiculous. No matchmaking co-op? Am I understanding that correctly? : treefingers1
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    how many games do? (L4D?) : derelict515
    • Uncharted 2 does. Another reason why that game will kick all of our asses in 11 days. : treefingers1
    • Just about every other game that provides coop. : matrixneo42
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  I can't think of any good reason for them not to include matchmaking for Firefight. It's an absolute dis... : WhatIsThisFor
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    I can, its called not playing with random retards who cant work as a team. : DonarUDL
    • says you. I would at least like the option there really is no reason for this. : Ulfie
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      That's not a good reason. L4D lets you match up with people, just because some people are jerks doesn't ... : WhatIsThisFor
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        But L4D is a much different game. If you don't work as a team you are DEAD. That doesn't mean you wont ru... : MoreVespeneGas
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          It seems identical to me. Whether you are playing Firefight or L4D Survival mode, what your teammates do... : WhatIsThisFor
          • ODGMW (oh don't get me wrong) I think they should add it. Just saying L4D is different play style. : MoreVespeneGas
          • Even people who do have a community of gamers to go to, don't always have the luxury of matching up when ... : matrixneo42
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    It uses the Halo 3 co-op netcode, which didn't do matchmaking either : Dave-A
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      isn't matchmaking separate from the netcode? it's just a front end that pairs you up with others. what th... : pyide
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        I'm just going by what they said! : Dave-A
        • Bungie said that? Well then it must be true. Or a horribly poor excuse :( : pyide
      • I think they don't do it because they are trying to pigeon hole people into playing the multi-player mode... : matrixneo42
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      They could have branched the code and added matchmaking to it. They've done it for vs, they can do it fo... : WhatIsThisFor
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        Obviously, they just said they didn't want to touch it for whatever reason. I guess the resources needed : Dave-A
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          Apparently. I regret having bought this game. : WhatIsThisFor
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            I couldn't think of anything less important to me than random matchmaking for Firefight. I guess I just l... : Dave-A
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              To me it's a pretty useless mode because the number of times that I will be online wanting to play at the... : WhatIsThisFor
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                I'm guess I'm just lucky, every goddamn time I turn on my Xbox I get inundated with Firefight requests. : Dave-A
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                  You are indeed lucky. Most people aren't going to have your experience. : WhatIsThisFor
                  • Yep. And I live in a different time zone than many of my friends, so organizing a firefight match before... : riptyde
                • How about later when everyone is playing a different game and you really crave to play firefight? Wouldn... : matrixneo42
            • Glad you have friends that can all game at the same time that you do. We don't all have that luxury. : matrixneo42
• I have yet to play a multiplayer match of firefight, because I can't find 2-3 friends who are playing ODS : riptyde
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  How many hours is ODST? Anyone know? :o : MoreVespeneGas
  • Depends greatly on what difficulty you intend to play on. : Haxim
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    It was 8-9 hours for me on Heroic. I'm going to play through on Legendary. I also need to locate all the ... : Dave-A
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      Wow that is longer than I thought it would be : MoreVespeneGas
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        To be fair, I didn't race from start to finish like most people seem to. So you might want to shave an ho... : Dave-A
        • I don't either, whatever people here post as how long a game took I usually think about double that lol : MoreVespeneGas
    • I beat legendary the other night and unlocked Dare as a firefight character. Of course I had to change my... : Haxim
  • It probably took me somewhere between 6 and 8 hours to finish. : WhatIsThisFor
• I beat the game last night, then didn't get the achievements. then had to replay the entire level and fin... : bozer
• Some ODST media here for those that like pretty things! iPhone backgrounds, scroll down: http://www.b... : Dave-A
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  A few of us went for that Endure achievement last night and didn't do so hot. I don't think everyone got ... : cyclonebee
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    Explain the plasma pistol + pistol combo : WhatIsThisFor
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      Charged plasma pistol shot into a Brute takes his shields out and then your teammate hits him right after... : cyclonebee
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        I've been doing this in single player, very effective! I kinda had to force myself to do it because carry... : Dave-A
        • Let me know when you have time to go for that achievement, I have nothing to do all day. : cyclonebee
    • o_O wat? that combo was kicking ass since Halo 1 multiplayer. : -=kodiak=-
  • The lag we were getting towards the end didn't help. Was a lot of fun though. I think we could do much be... : sigpro
  • Yeah, you need a different strategy for the endure. Usually I go for score, which results in more deaths... : jake
• I HATE matchmaking so much. It's bullshit. If someone drops the whole game is fucked, you have no contr... : Boxelder
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  How is the gameplay in ODST compared to Halo 3? 8-9 hours sounds perfect for me for a sp campaign, if it'... : Magus
  • Well, I think it's great. There's a bit more wandering around in the hub sections. Combat is a little dif... : Dave-A
  • Coming from somebody that dislikes halo and console shooters in general, trust me when i say that the cam... : RetroRedEyeJr
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  This is rapidly becoming a hot button issue with me. Two people on my friends list just sold/returned the... : Dr_Cube
  • Hope they take fucking notice and do something for their next entry. I'm banning the series until they f... : matrixneo42

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• Anyone? I got people waiting on me, let's GO!!! : dognose
• I'm upgrading my computer at work at the beginning of the year and getting my own office since im hiring ... : sreyes22
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  WhAt map pack? : Mmmmmoo
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    I dunno, some mega map pack that has like 500 maps in it, I got it here but now I can't find it http:/... : dognose
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      And I guess I meant l4dmaps and not l4dmods, I am new to gaming : dognose
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        I have a UT screenshot from 1999 that has me, you, Klerck, helvetica, Dg3Nr8, lacker & cot in it. So u b... : Phil
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          zerologik? : alexthegreat2
          • YES! : Phil
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          Ah damn those were the days : dognose
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            Post this shot please? I lost all of mine : dognose
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              It's on the HD's that were in my old dead PC. I still have it but it's temporarily unavailable :( : Phil
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                MS Paint. : dognose
                • lol : Phil
        • Does anyone remember the Q3TEST shack stack, where we stacked like 50 people on top of each other on the ... : fishbone
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    2009_09_24_L4D_CUSTOM_MAPPACK_UPDATE_V1.34 : dignan
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      its ~650megs : dignan
      • Shows 607 MB here, that's a lotta maps? : dognose
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      Thanks, that's the one, have you played any of these maps? : dognose
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        im still wroking my way through the single player campaign, kinda want to plya them all before jumping in... : dignan
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          But... single player is the same thing as co-op mode, just with real allies instead of AI. I can understa... : Nali4Freedom
          • im still under 3 hours of playtime, im ready for co-op i guess, i just wanted the basics down before emba... : dignan
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      is there a link for this somewhere? : harold.johnson
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        http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21035367 : grabbie
        • thanks : harold.johnson
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        sorry i didn't have the link, figured the filename would help with a google search : dignan
        • tried that, came up with zero responses :( : harold.johnson
    • I've got to download this. Reminds me of that one Maximum Doom CD back in the day, with hundreds of custo... : The Grolar Bear
• Good times last night, Dognose... but I'm wishing I had gotten more sleep today. : Maddog_Delphi97
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  Have the community maps been any good? Haven't tried any : Cihte
  • I like Death Aboard, but Heaven Can Wait is very long... it's not unusual for a round to take three hours... : Maddog_Delphi97
• I just found out last night that you can pick up gas and propane containers and throw them. Sweet! : azshack
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  goddammit dognose, play some fucking Versus! I want to play a game with you :( : zerog83
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    I don't like versus :( : dognose
    • If we did it we'd have to play 'Fun VS' not our normal competitive one. Aka, make it fun for the survivor... : LoioshDwaggie
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  i want to play right now. its 7am which is the perfect time : CoRDS
  • I have to go get RomSteady, I should be home around midnight my time : dognose
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  I kinda wish valve would do a SP centric version of the game. Or at least one set in the same universe/sc... : Beady
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    Yeah I have mostly been playing SP since I bought it and it's pretty fun. The AI could use some tweaking,... : azshack
    • I noticed they jump down to grab ammo and get back up again at the end of the new campaign, I never saw t... : razorblade79
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    I like how it is right now because coop is awesome. I wish there was more voice work. My favorite parts i... : Mmmmmoo
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      Bill hates your comment. : azshack
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        Er, Francis. I'm retarded. : azshack
        • No no, they both do. Bill is just much less vocal about it. : kallanta
  • I thought it was a great idea to combine two original campaigns with the new one. it reminds me of tellta... : razorblade79
• i wish there was a 4 pack deal for borderlands :( : harold.johnson
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  A skin for Zoey for when Gala is playing as her. http://www.l4dmods.com/index.php?option=com_content&vie... : Ratalon
  • Hahahaha no. : dognose
• isn't it great to be a fan of a game with a sequel that will actually ship? :) : Postal
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  TheMonkeyWench plays as Zoey, I think she'll help you get that statistic increased : Halen
  • Along those lines, my Wife does when she plays. But she's always pretty busy with other stuff so doesn't ... : bombay
• I can't wait till my new pc gets here so I can play this game with shackers : dysfunctional

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• lol @ the Arnold impression : NFXFSX
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  I like how they barely escape each and every one. : broly1718
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    in a feces covered limousine no less~ : yacoub35
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      lol is that what that was? : riptyde
      • Now I'm pissed one of the characters didn't say "we're in deep shit now!" : riptyde
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        unless that brown-liquid-spewing pipe was connected to a chocolate factory, yes. : yacoub35
        • What that make more or less sense? : riptyde
• There are no words... : snuff
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  Haha, I love how they outrun natural disasters in Emmerich's movies. In the Day after tomorrow, they out... : pigvomit
  • yah I'll see it mostly for the effects and everything... : Shadowdane
  • So hurricanes take out New Orleans, Godzilla takes out Tokyo, the Allies take out Dresden, the Greeks too... : steauengeglase
• CALIFORNIA IS GOING DOWN! : snuff
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  This is going to be the Best Movie Ever if I can get some half-baked romantic drama mixed in with the hal... : sgtsanity
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    You already get the kid drama. Maybe one of them will have a dog that will continually survive. But jus... : pigvomit
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      Ok. So far all we need more is: 1. a neurotic geek 2. an off-the-handle jock, preferably military 3.... : sgtsanity
      • at least one "My Gaaaaaaaahd" like the guy in the chopper at the end of Predator watching the mushroom cl... : PlanetPerfecto
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        6. A guy that seems like a real asshole throughout the movie who later learns the error of his ways and t... : pigvomit
        • Or is revealed to have been secretly a saint the whole time. : sgtsanity
      • Expansion on #5: A scientist warns the President of the problem, but his staff (bonus points if it's a m... : riptyde
      • wise-cracking black guy : mikecyb
  • Although they probably won't approach Independence Day's brilliantly kaleidoscopic summation of late-90s ... : sgtsanity
  • Don't forget the token fully-baked guy to say "Hahaha... what?" : Rich McNinch
  • I think you're pretty much guaranteed for there to be some half-baked romantic drama. : aethyr
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    Nothing will ever out-do the happy flowers and puppies ending to War of the Worlds : riptyde
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      Fuck that shit, it was in the book. Here we have THE KING of happy endings. Just look at ID4 and Day Afte... : locater16
      • Yeah but War of the Worlds had the son, who by all rights should have been blow to smitherines, suddenly ... : riptyde
    • dude his son magically appearing out of nowhere after heading to certain death took the cake for me. i... : deathofrats
• wow. that's just terrible : sKetchflow
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  Saw this is TV last night - first, LOL at John Cusack slumming in it; second, JESUS CHRIST GIVE IT SOME T... : mn3m0n1c
  • is ^on but you get my point : mn3m0n1c
  • Oh, the TV promo didn't have that last part - wow, that's a lot of stuff breaking & blowing up. :) : mn3m0n1c
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    Yeah I was laughing my ass off at how apparently the airplane could not climb : riptyde
    • Well, there would be quite the downdraft if the entire ground started sinking at that rate. : Fred Garvin
• Spaceships? Why not! Whole planet disaster! : LilCrypto
• I'm outraged that such a mindless movie would be made. Only the braindead masses (everyone but me becaus... : stump
• they showed something the other day on espn. it looks like shit : maulla
• Almost as scary as: http://www.wwtdd.com/2009/10/lindsay-is-sooooo-hot/ : azshack
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  Why do they fly from Santa Monica airport all the way to downtown and go back to the ocean? : Serpico74
  • because it's awesome? : cltcprd
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    shut up, that's why : riptyde
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      Yeah, that's why. :( : Serpico74
      • ...but seriously, Santa Monica airport dumps you right over the Pacific, not in the middle of downtown : : Serpico74
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    Because the Ocean is EATING CALIFORNIA. It's not that they flew to the ocean, it's that the ocean is chas... : sgtsanity
    • At least they aren't being chased by the cold : riptyde
  • Especially when they were right by LAX when Randy's Donuts almost smashed them : rosewood
  • they took the scenic route, okay? : mikecyb
  • They forgot something : mr.sleepy
• I think this trailer made me angry that they can do shit like this. : hrdwregk
• The poop makes the trailer. : Fred Garvin
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  Ha ha, thank looks like the most retardedly awesome thing EVAR! Michael Bay, The Challenge has been issue... : locater16
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    Michael bay is an amateur compared to the awesome level of destruction in Roland Emmerich movies. : CoRDS
    • I like how he branched out from the "main characters and their family barely escape washington dc's destr... : riptyde
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  HOLY SHIT THATS GOING TO BE THE SINGLE MOST AWESOME MOVIE EVER : CoRDS
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    I thought you guys were just upside-down not opposite. : trOmblyj
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      this is a cinematic masterpiece : CoRDS
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        wait do you think you're in the Patton thread? That's over here: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=21... : trOmblyj
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          patton thread omg gimme : CoRDS
          • oh, not mike patton : CoRDS
• for over the top disaster movies, i'll probably watch this for the sheer ridiculousness of it : industro
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  Wait, so is this movie supposed to be a parody or something? : riptyde
  • Its basically "disaster movie 2" : uglysad
• Fantastic. A tour de farce. Udderly amazing. Greatest moovie of all time. Seriously. : trove
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  I wanted the paperboy to jump on the windshield and yell, I want my two dollars !!! : gmd
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    And just when you thought there couldn't be a Cusak film that was less plausible than Better Off Dead : riptyde
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      better yet, the Asian race drivers with the megaphone pull up next to him : gmd
      • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0QKTT0YbRQ : gmd
• This looks ace. Does anyone else think this is the next logical step for the Peter Griffin VS the Chicken... : scottythejock
• I didn't know this was going to be a comedy. : Mecha Tofu Pirate
• wow, ive never seen so much shit explode with such fanatical insanity : chilln
• wtf is wrong with you people? This movie looks like shit! Did I miss a memo or something? : thecray
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  Why doesn't he pull the plane up????????????????????????????? : sanchez
  • dammit. : mwasher
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    Well, it's because planes can only accelerate when their tires are on the ground. That's why he wanted to... : ArcKnight
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      i'm also confused how they take off and all of a sudden are actually lower than the surface flying throug... : mwasher
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        probably the suction forces of the ground disappearing and the air above the ground all the sudden fallin : g0nk
        • actually, if you massively displaced an area under a body of gas, wouldn't the gas sink with it and drag : Toraz Chryx
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  WHY THE FUCK IS HE FLYING THE PLANE SO LOW?! FUCK. : mwasher
  • Because, theres very little that could fall on you way up there. : alphablu
  • I figured the whole runway collapsing at that speed would of just sucked them into it anyways : supermonkeyballz
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  http://cdn.wwtdd.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/spl130160_016.jpg : Godhatesfatpeople
  • who is the old lady? : drucifer
  • Lindsay Lohan looks like shit : rosewood
• This looks so retarded. My friend just can't wait to see this movie. There is no stopping her. She's goin... : mayooms
• 2012: It's a Disaster!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW2qxFkcLM0 : Nali4Freedom
• I will give them some redemption points if the entire mass of California sliding into the ocean is what c... : riptyde
• Wow that movie looks like a piece of shit. : virus
• This is pure disaster porn. How can you not love this? : GloriousCow
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIR5bcpr-X8 : Afterglow
• I'm so excited for this ridiculous bullshit. : Vincent Grayson
• wow............... : adev
• hahah fuck! This is going to be awesome in the theaters with the big screen and big sound. Whatever plot ... : pukerat
• wow. just wow. : g0nk
• AWESOME : mindshot
• This movie is going to be awesome on opening night. Everything's going to lol'ing at how outrageous it is... : festivalman
• bwahahah : Milleh
• It's gonna be stupid, but I'll go see it for the thrill of over the top escapism. : Colleton
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  Don't you all realize this is supposed to prepare us for what will happen in 3 years? Take it seriously p... : invisible_kid
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    If an earthquake happens outside my apartment I have enough guns to take it on. : ArcKnight
    • Tornados too. : ArcKnight
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    Just like Armageddon and Deep Impact! : pigvomit
    • And Shindlers List...oh wait! : Godhatesfatpeople
    • Durrr, did some dude who lived 100s of years ago and some backwoods Indians predict those movies? No! ... : invisible_kid
• this is either the best or worst thing i have ever seen : Audhuml4
• This is going to be the single greatest movie ever fucking made, ever. : u sir name
• I think that was more awesome than my brain can handle. : Portax
• Roland Emmerich has spent his entire career trying to make the disaster movie that cannot be topped. I th... : ventro
• I wonder if there was ever a time in my life when I would have thought that looked like something I'd wan... : edgewise
• This movie looks to be almost as good as Surrogates. : Ride-My-Rocket
• This movie is going to be so awesome stoned. : noobja
• So it's Katamari Damaci with John Cusak, basically? : Wolfanoz
• You know guys, I think these movies might be more interesting if they didn't have things like getting cha... : SpaecKow
• I dunno, it needs more Tango & Cash. : steauengeglase
• That is the most epic, ridiculous disaster bullshit ever, I can not wait to see it. : abrasion
• As a young girl I was raped and murdered by Roland Emmerich in the mid 90s. : steauengeglase
• Holy shit that looks so incredibly retardedly awesome : TastyWheat
• there was never really any doubt, but after watching that i can safely say i will never see this movie : pandastrong

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  "Sony may have promised everyone a program which would allow you to trade in your old UMDs for credit or ... : red2lucas
  • Typical Sony software. Have you used the PS3? : Fred Garvin
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  The downloading of games on that sounds dreadful. : voodooraze
  • My PSP slim downloaded and installed Gran Turismo after two and a half hours. This is precisely why Sony... : LilCrypto
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  That thing is gonna flop so bad. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • yup, deservedly so : qwpeoriu
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    Seriously. $50 more and you'd have a PS3. : PointlesS76
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      $50 less and you have a wii. Not that I play mine, but its still a valid point : chungathebunga
      • Or an X360. The kick in the ass, as they mention at the end of the review, is that the existing PSP can d... : Entity
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  It's depressing what a piece of shit it is. I really like the PSP and there's a lot of great software on ... : veras
  • oh and obviously some sort of UMD xfer program is necessary, I'm not writing off my 20+ PSP games : veras
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    802.11b is just fucking lol. I think that and the price tag are the 2 biggest failures : pancake humper
    • not having touchscreen controls when the unit is shut seems pretty stupid to me too, would be great for m... : veras
    • yeah, I just don't understand why they didn't bump it up to at least 802.11g. : Smitty
• He's got some good points, but that super-pissy trollish tone he takes in his reviews makes him hard to t... : Dave-A
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  Yep great review. Sony really needs to stop fucking up. : pigvomit
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    It's like they're letting their media executives run their gaming hardware division. : Arcanum
    • Sony uses their name for marketing. I have a number of friends who will only play a PS3 on their Bravia T... : zerog83
• The PSN is in no way reliable enough for this thing : Magus
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  Why is the 802.11b a big deal? It not like any of our internet can max that out, right? Isn't it like 1... : DogDharma
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    It's 11 megabits/second, or 1.375 megabytes/second. A mildly fast home pipe can saturate that. : Arcanum
    • oh ok, I thought it was megabytes : DogDharma
• Yup, it's pretty freaking lame. : Fred Garvin
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  I don't get the hate, if you already have a psp why would you be pissed off that you shouldn't buy this o... : bakanoodle
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    Because I think it's finally going to kill the PSP which is actually a great platform. : SiW.
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      It's like Sony is trying to make it fail so that they can have an excuse to kill off all support for it o... : roushimsx
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        It really is. I can't believe they'd do this shit for any other reason. Is there any other company maki... : SiW.
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          Seconding this question. It's actually a superset of the previous functionality, unlike the slim. : Fayk
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            It drops the GBA cart slot, which obsoletes all your GBA games and a handful of DS games (like the web br... : Schnapple
            • Sure, the camera is trash, especially for our demographic, but having the capability for devs to release ... : Fayk
        • Because of the price :( : roushimsx
    • I don't think they will, the fact that games on the PSP Go can only be installed via Wifi or USB transfer... : Serpico74
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      the old psp is still for sale, how is the psp go going to kill a platform. especially when theyre bringin... : Chandler55
      • 1. Old PSP gets discontinued, supplies eventually run out 2. New PSP slows game sales for the PSP since : Schnapple
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  How long before a price drop? : pgharavi
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    No idea. I don't know if they learned their lesson after the PS3. : Fred Garvin
    • They didnt learn anything : Lakipo
    • Sony. : zerog83
• lolol, you cant play ur old games with it? that sounds like a super deal breaker. : chilln
• all I wanted was for an excuse to buy one. no way i'm getting one at this price, and with this funky shit... : barichnikov
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  Wow, they took the PSP and made it even more shit. Seriously, it's the most disappointing console I've... : Fayk
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    Mine got stolen, if you want to get rid of yours by giving it to me I shall offer you a hug! : Lionhart32935
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      Ha. I'd almost consider it, but despite my hate for the hardware (disappointment, really, it could be so ... : Fayk
      • A hug and $10! : Lionhart32935
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  All negatives taken into account, it is still better for me than the PSP in several ways. I bought a P... : Serpico74
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    Well, there's also the fact that you're forced to pay Sony's prices for the media. You might be paying $... : Frank_Mackey
    • Sony does not control sales and prices, its up to the publishers. That is why not all games were release... : manlyman
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    You can replicate that with a PSP 2.0 or 3.0 and a large memory card with games downloaded in the same PS... : pigvomit
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      Did you even pay attention to half of his pluses? : DogDharma
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        Well, his perspective is based on the launch PSP, I think many of his concerns were alleviated by prior r... : pigvomit
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          Digital downloads are possible for everything now, but the issues of PSP and AC adapter size are still th... : Serpico74
          • i agree, im gonna go pick up a go in a bit. Another big plus is the ability to use a dual shock 3 when a... : DogDharma
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  Don't really understand the hate for it. Its a refinement of the PSP, and the digital content only is re... : manlyman
  • I'm surprised, Ars usually does a really good job but this was a terrible article : Serpico74
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    A refinement or a money grab? I'll go with money grab. Smaller screen and shittier controls alone make it... : Fred Garvin
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      Also, Sony has ultimate control just like Apple with the iPhone. : Fred Garvin
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        Or Nintendo with the Wii/DS or Microsoft with the 360. What's your point? : Serpico74
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          That it's not a valid point to make to defend the PSP Go. : Fred Garvin
          • Ridiculous. There is value for some consumers and added production costs in making a device smaller. Abou... : Serpico74
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      You're basing this on actual experience with the device? As for the screen, it isn't much smaller than t... : Serpico74
      • Yes, I played with it at the Austin GDC. As for ergonomics it's too small to be comfortable for me. The s... : Fred Garvin
      • Yeah, the screen is better than the 3000's, I'll take .5" less for no shitty interlacing issues. Also, t... : manlyman
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    Did you read the review that he linked to? Because they explained the hate pretty clearly. : weaselmeister
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      Its basically stating that everything the Go can do, the PSP can do now. All Sony is providing, is a pla... : manlyman
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        Better ergonomics? That's a matter of opinion and I saw the PSP cards at a store today and they were the ... : Fred Garvin
        • PSN Store prices were cheaper for me, ranging from $5-10, saving the cash basically makes it pay for itse... : manlyman
        • some of the cards are more expensive then the actual price to just download them. I noticed god of war c... : DogDharma
      • This, the article is ridiculous. A balanced opinion taking the positives and negatives into account is on... : Serpico74
• the PSP Go -- a great ad for the iPod touch : Postal

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  Little big planet is an exellent game, tons of fun. : monkeygone
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    I'm sure I'll play with it a bit... Only have one controller though and I guess it's a co-op game? I m... : uncleanmonkey
    • It's okay as a singleplayer platformer, nothing too special but it has great atmosphere and is at least w... : Zek
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    monkeygone, I respectfully disagree. : CrustaR
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      Did you play with other people? That's the key. : ieGod
      • The game is excellent with partys : d3tached
      • I still didnt find the fun... its a platformer with physics... yay *yawn* Horses for courses i guess. : SigENeaT
  • Its better with more people for co-op, very fun. : IHATEDUST
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  Controller? Really? Did you not have a Ps2? : Boxelder
  • Nope. I've played both before and disliked them, but usually at parties and what not so I never really sp... : uncleanmonkey
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    I had a PS2 and I hated it then and I have a PS3 and I hate it now. Fucking terrible overall controller d... : OverloadUT
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      I really hate it, too. but I almost forgot that while playing god of war. That thing was made for childre... : razorblade79
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        I sometimes feel you /shacktards/ post things on purpose to piss me off. Seriously? The controller sucks ... : firewoodman
        • I'm probably not who you are angry about, since I didn't talk about graphics. But both the GameCube and t... : razorblade79
        • The 360 controller is faaaar superior. The only thing it does worse at is the D-Pad, but you never use th... : uncleanmonkey
  • PS2 PS1 : SiW.
  • I think it is very uncomfortable and I had a PS2 for a short time. : OmegaRed59
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    Even if you have mutant hands that the PS2 was nice to, the PS3's triggers are lolshite designed for alie... : nudel
    • i got these little clip on thingies on amazon that make the triggers bigger and curved the right way- the... : confuseatron
• They didn't fuck up the controller, it's just fine. You'll either get used to it or realize you have griz... : ieGod
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  I'm not going to argue the fact that you find the controller uncomfortable but...... Do you have midget h... : unsound
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    No, I have very big hands. I just don't see why it can't be shaped ergonomically instead of this weird an... : uncleanmonkey
    • Probably 'cause they've kept nearly the exact same design since half way through the original PS. : one random winner
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      I bet that original xbox 1 controller was a big man hands dream. : unsound
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        The current 360 controller is the best out there, minus the asstastic d-pad. : Fred Garvin
        • I hate to agree with Fred Garvin, but he's bang on the money here. : Toraz Chryx
      • The original (non S) xbox controller was amazing. : ArcKnight
      • Yeah that one ruled. : uncleanmonkey
      • Loved that beast of a controller. : Pettytheft
      • to this day that is the most comfortable controller ever....EVER...ever. : broly1718
      • yeah I liked the original (i can palm a basketball) : Clay
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      Seriously! I mean, my thumbs touch if I move the sticks facing eachother. It's retarded. : ArcKnight
      • How the hell? The sticks sit on the tips of my thumbs and this goes for all controllers. This would be ... : cetra00
    • The fact is Japanese have smaller hands so Sony made their controllers more suited to that demographic. M... : Metasparks
• I have regular sized hand and love the controller, I keep a pretty loose grip on it though, if I start gr... : d fluke
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  The controller is uncomfortable as hell. I can't even begin to understand how the managed to fuck up so b : Rehevkor
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    So what do I do when the battery runs out of the controller? Stop playing? That's a retarded design. At l... : uncleanmonkey
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      You should also know that the controller can't be charged while the PS3 is off. You also have to set the... : Haku-Jin
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        WTF? Is there something I can buy to remedy this bullshit? : uncleanmonkey
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          Use your computer to charge the controller and once you've set the controller up properly in the options ... : Haku-Jin
          • I do this too, screw charging it with the PS3 on : Begawkiness
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          Buy a 10 foot usb cable. Also you can use your PC to charge it too. : PointlesS76
          • that's good to know. thx. : edgewise
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          An Xbox 360! sorry, perfect setup : DinK
          • Already have one. : uncleanmonkey
        • Longer usb cable? Charge on a computer? Or get a standard USB phone charger. : ieGod
        • A gun? : mnsnota
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          IIRC, Sony disabled USB charging for the PS3 in one of their last Firmware updates so as to keep the PS3 ... : Sailor of Fortune
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            Huh? This false. It can't charge via USB when the unit is in standby. Controllers charge fine when... : cetra00
            • It used to charge when on stand by, they changed it. : ieGod
            • Yes, this is what we in this sub thread have been talking about. : Sailor of Fortune
          • oh wtf. my controller just told me it was needing a charge, so when I finished playing, I left it plugged... : edgewise
      • Yeah, I just discovered all of this information myself with my new PS3. Some fucking terrible design choi... : OverloadUT
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      Buy a 30 foot USB cable for a couple bucks? It's cheaper than 2 AAA batteries. : cetra00
      • This is true. I'll do that. : uncleanmonkey
    • You plug it in for a little while when you're not playing. Load times vary widely between games. The text... : Rehevkor
• At least that thing is matte rather than glossy. My PS3 is a dust magnet. : Sailor of Fortune
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  If you don't like how the controller feels, get these. They make the controller feel bulkier (which is a ... : zombie man
  • Also, I think gamestop sells a cheap third party controller charging cable as well, it's long as hell, I ... : zombie man
  • Yeah, the triggers are really the worst part of the controller for me, i should pick these up before unch... : qwpeoriu
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    Yup, absolutely get these. Enormous improvement. : Head Rush
    • Has anyone been able to find these things in Canada? : treefingers1
• Agreed with all the points. Uncharted is pretty fun. Can't wait to play the new one if it is as good as t... : Fred Garvin
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  I will argue to the grave that the placement of the left stick on all of Sony's controllers is absolutely... : Zek
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    I have always disagreed with this because I find the placement of the Xbox 360 d-pad makes the d-pad comp... : cetra00
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      i don't think it's the placement that makes the 360 d-pad useless : qwpeoriu
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        It's the placement. D-pads are nearly flush with the controller surface. At least with an analog stick ... : cetra00
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          The 360's d-pad is a piece of shit. I don't really have any problems with its placement, in fact I prefer... : qwpeoriu
          • i agree with you. the 360's dpad is like pushing an inverted bowl around instead of actually pushing disc... : xsoulbrothax
        • it's a stretch either way. the lower spot is less convenient. also i think the wii classic controller ... : Mansmells
    • It's not ideal but very usable when you get used to it(much like the PS3's stick), but what makes the 360... : Zek
    • But the d-pad is used maybe 0.001% of the time. : uncleanmonkey
    • the D-Pad IS useless. hardly any games use it for movement. It's basically just 4 more face buttons under... : edgewise
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  The PS2/3 controller is pretty much my favorite of all console controllers. The worst had to be N64. : shyguy74
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    I love my dreamcast but using its controller was the equivalent of molesting a spaceship : drbriefs
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      My second DC controller is 3rd party, and it manages to make the Sega controller look svelte. : SiW.
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        Was it a madcatz? I had one of those, orange no less, and yeah it was significantly more plump : drbriefs
        • I think it's Interact. Yep: http://www.gamersace.com/images/Dcast-Quantum-Control.jpg The triggers ... : SiW.
• i agree the controller is awful. it feels cheap and those triggers are the worst. and i no i don't have h... : Mansmells
• I kind of like the controller. : Ellissd
• The controller seems fine to me and I have xxxl hands. I sit a couple of feet from the TV to play (I only... : jcupitt
• my hands are just about the limit for the controller. The only thing I don't like about the DS3 though is... : moe6
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  How do all you people hate the PS3 controller so much? It's far and away my favorite. : Ebu
  • The left stick is in an uncomfortable position and your fingers slide right off the triggers. : jahulio2
  • i really like both the 360 and the ps3 controller. i like the wii's a lot too but after extended periods... : Mr.SEX
  • I hate the analog triggers on the PS3 with a passion. The rest of it is a good tried and true design tho... : sevogajre
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    Isn't that weird? Prior to the xbox 360 controller everyone raved about the PS2 controller. : d3tached
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      That's not really true. The PS1/2 controller were great back in the day, but ever since the controller-s ... : qwpeoriu
      • the playstation design was great before thumbsticks. i resisted using thumbsticks for a while because my ... : Mansmells
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      i never did. Ive always hated the PS controllers. Too small, too cramped, too shitty. : -=kodiak=-
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        I know the feeling. I always thought people arguing in favour of the PS2 controller over the Xbox or Game... : AlexW1203
        • first time i really sat down and played extended sessions of PS1 was when Tony Hawk first came out. my... : -=kodiak=-
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    I just sat down and tried to determine what exactly is wrong. First is placement. If you hold it naturall... : uncleanmonkey
    • Contrast this with the 360 controller, where just grabbing it and holding it as comfortably as you can yo... : uncleanmonkey
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    People grew up and their hands got bigger. : SiW.
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      It's the perfect controller for doll hands. : Fred Garvin
      • not uncommon in japan : Chandler55
  • Awkward positioning for the thumbsticks. Shoulder buttons are pretty cruddy. The analog sticks are ... : Fayk
  • They made the triggers round -- the wrong way -- so that your fingers slip off them instead of grip them.... : nudel
• also it seems like it's a ps3 thing where the initial load takes forever (like when you first select to p... : Mr.SEX
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  I prefer the ps3's sticks to the 360. To me, they just feel more accurate. Otherwise I prefer the 360 con... : PointlesS76
  • I like the ps3 sticks better, but i like the placement of them on the 360 better. : broly1718
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  Agree with all your points. There is a lot of common sense fuck ups that could have been avoided. That be... : bozer
  • Blu-ray was a total non-factor for me. I'm way past buying physical media for movies. Uncharted 2 was bas... : uncleanmonkey
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  I wish all you fucking naysayers hadn't ruined the chance for the PS3 to have the boomerang-style control... : Modica Sol Solis
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    the only thing those long boomerang arms would be good for is jamming up your ass, playing Fight Night 3 ... : edgewise
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      I have never loled so hard in my life. The idea of using Fight Night as a vibrator is hilarious. : PointlesS76
      • Mike Tyson is gonna make you his bitch! : edgewise
• I had the same issue with Texture pop in and people told me I was crazy SEE GMD!?!?! YOU IS WRONG. ag... : edgewise
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  Where did you get this bundle? : OverloadUT
  • Random GameStation. The bundle was for PS3 + LBP for £249, so nothing special, I paid like £15 for ... : uncleanmonkey
• I just bought a PS3 (still in box) but I already agree - because I've used and seen other PS3s. I've c... : Fayk
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  Wait until you find out that everything you download (which is hopefully not using the super slow wireles... : deveus1
  • Yeah the wi-fi seems utter rubbish. It interferes with my sound system, so I have to turn it off if I wan... : uncleanmonkey
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  after all these years, i still dont know which buttons are triangle/circle/square/x without looking at th... : j0nchan
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    Heh, yeah when the "Press X to do..." I always go for the left one because that's where X is on the 360. ... : uncleanmonkey
    • I have this same problem. I always fuck up in god of war's qte's. : marmite
• Agreed. The controller is pretty bad. I also wish they made the system more game friendly because the int... : Mmmmmoo
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  Sony haven't done anything to their controllers since the first one, other than tacking on more and more ... : Beady
  • I loved the PS1 controllers when they came out. By far the best controllers of that generation. (Not t... : hawke
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  Picked up a PS3 slim + inFamous. And replaced the 360 w/ an elite Jasper model. Time to unpack! : Clay
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    you got the double! sweet. : edgewise
    • it's christmas at my house! : Clay
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  Have you tried playing with the L1 and R1 as triggers instead? I find the design works better if you use ... : DynaM1k
  • I'm going to say something is wrong with your 360 controller because the bumpers on my (month after launc... : Fayk
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  I prefer the 360 controller overall shape but the PS3 controller takes me about 15 minutes to become re-a... : abrasion
  • I have fairly sever tension in my left hand after playing Uncharted for a few hours. The problem is that ... : uncleanmonkey
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  People sure like to complain about the PS3 around here. : doctorbfunk
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    Imagine that. A video game site talking about video games. : uncleanmonkey
    • I think you misunderstood. : doctorbfunk
• I'll buy your LBP from you. My kids have finally scratched their disk to pieces and it won't play. : redfive

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  Oh shit.. and a L4D 1 + 2 bundle for $64.99. Awesome stuff. : jingletard
  • Glad I got in on the L4D 1 at $15. I just saved $5 compared to the bundle price. : ant_hillbilly
  • I'm really being kicked in the balls here for buying l4d when i did :( : GloriousCow
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  QUICK POLL: How many of you are preordering L4D2? I'm still on the maybe list. : Mmmmmoo
  • I wasn't going to, but thinking back I got my money out of L4D on the first night. So maybe I will as wel... : ZombieAcademy
  • We're preordering, I just need the cash. I'd like to get some early demo access. : jingletard
  • I'm preordering it as I type this. : LoioshDwaggie
  • I was going to wait, but the deal for the 4 pack is awesome. Gonna buy that with my 3 regular LAN party c... : sicko
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    I'm going to buy the 4 pack and probably, just like last time, give a copy away to the shack. : re-verse
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      Hello buddy, how are you doing today? You sure look handsome. : mnsnota
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        How do things taste down there mnsnota? You likey the brown? : Lexicon_Leidun
        • Do not interrupt the special connection I have created with re-verse, he understands me like no one else... : mnsnota
  • Already have! I'm getting tired of the current characters and locations again, plus I can't wait to try o... : pyide
  • I'll do as soon as I get some money and find someone else to share a 4-pack. : Nitrium
  • I am : jonin
  • I would if my birthday weren't this month. If I don't get it then, I'll preorder. : OverloadUT
  • As I clicked the purchase button, I forgot I was boycotting this and all Valve games. Shoot. : K1Bond007
  • Most likely I will. Early demo access was pretty fun last time around. Might have to think about the 4... : Alco23
  • Pre-ordered! : EricZBA
  • put me on the maybe list too. I'm just not quite sure. : kainen1
  • I just did when I heard of the discount. : freakynipples69
  • Yep : Spoetzl
  • Would have been a no-brainer for me just for the pre-loading, let alone the demo and the price drop and t... : Zek
  • I just did. : deject
  • Preordering fo' sho' : Arctic Fox
  • Just purchased the 4 pack; I've got two I am holding for shackers. : bombay
  • 1.5 months? no thanks, i'll be busy with borderlands by then. : DrFlammable
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    i'm probably not going to buy it on account of trying to save money :( : jenisthebest
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      lies, you need it ! : bombay
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        i have to buy batman first! : jenisthebest
        • "Damn Girl" : bombay
  • Probably not. While I don't deny L4D was a good game, it just wasn't compelling for me and I doubt I'd g... : bipolar
  • dunno yet. especially since its released on the same day as the next stalker. my buddies want to preorder... : Hoax
  • I did. : NFXFSX
  • Ordered'd! : alphablu
  • Me! : prime8
  • I will next Thursday after my next paycheck comes through. : zerog83
  • I'm boycotting just kidding, I'll probably wait for the post-Xmas sale tho... too many games, not enough : dfay
  • Ok. Count me in. Worked out a deal with friends to split the four pack! : Mmmmmoo
  • nah. not boycotting, just burnt out on L4D. they should waited longer : smax
  • Me omg! : Cihte
  • I went ahead and preordered. Usually don't do this as I get bitten in the ass alot, but I've gotten my mo... : judge
  • meeeeeeeeeee : sanchez
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  dognose come here. : LoioshDwaggie
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    If I preorder I hope they charge me now and not when the game comes out. : dognose
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      I'm not 100% positive, but I remember them charging me immediately for pre-orders via Steam. It's conside... : pyide
      • OK cool thanks. I'm in. : dognose
      • I'll let you two know in about a minute : LoioshDwaggie
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      We'll charge you now. : locash
      • Awesome. Sold. Thanks. : dognose
      • why do you hate me so much :( : GloriousCow
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        Will this money you are obtaining from charging now speed up the development process at all? : CrustaR
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          CrustaR, I don't think so. : Nitrium
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            NO DEAL, Nitrium! : CrustaR
            • CrustaR, the banker is offering...toast. : RomSteady
    • I wouldnt worry about that. : pieman
• A baseball bat?! NEED A DISPENSER HERE!! : itsjames
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  SECOND POLL: How many of you are getting the Xbox 360 version and living in exile and shame? Me. :( : das_runt
  • I will probably buy both. I bought The Orange Box for both, but have only been able to beat Episode 2's ... : RomSteady
  • I originally planned on getting the original for the xbox but there's just much more playing on Steam. :/ : Mmmmmoo
• last year it went on sale for real cheap around thanksgiving for early december. i'll wait a while i thin... : ass-street
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  WTF This shit isn't showing in my games window. How the fuck am I to send a copy to Dognose? : intothefray
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    He already got it, I think. : bombay
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      There it is; finally.. : intothefray
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        It doesn't show in my list either, probably have to wait for unlock. It looks below he didn't get it. : bombay
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          on the file menu above you should still be able to goto game-manage passes. : intothefray
          • Yep, was just reading up on that. Waiting for the two shackers I want to gift if their PC specs are up to... : bombay
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    Did you get the 4 pack? I can PayPal you the $34 if you are looking to part out. : dognose
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      Yep. Already sent it to ya. Think you bought me a game or 2 a couple years ago so just returning the favo... : intothefray
      • OMG thank you, I am beyond stoked. I would also be quite happy to PayPal you if I can have your email, t... : dognose
  • You can send it to me if you want. I would heartily accept it. :) : Nitrium
• damnit just when I start spouting shit to the wife how i'm curbing my spending... damn you steam!!!!! : RogerDandy
• Will co-op splitscreen play be available on the PC version? : h o s t i l e
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  I kinda hope the PC version includes the LFD1 maps in the games. but I highly doubt it : stgdz
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    it won't : DrFlammable
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      They've said custom maps made for L4D will work with L4D2, so I'm sure someone will get them up and runni... : pyide
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        the reason for my reply wasn't a technical standpoint but from a design standpoint. many "fixes" to l4d2 ... : DrFlammable
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          Well even if people did try closet camping, it'd be a lot harder with the Spitter and the Charger thrown ... : Arctic Fox
          • Exactly, the old maps would still play differently with the new infected and weapons. : pyide
        • There is still going to be closet camping in L4D2. The only difference in map design that's supposed to f... : pyide
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  Is the early access demo available now for pre-ordering L4D2? : mastermike569
  • No, oct 27th : skunk_ape
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  Does anyone want to split a 4-pack? : Ride-My-Rocket
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    Split four ways, that is : Ride-My-Rocket
    • Provided we can get two other people, I'm down. : The Grolar Bear
  • I would be up to if I could Paypal the money to someone on tuesday. : Nitrium
  • I'd be up for it . : aethyr
  • Sounds like we've got our four right here! : The Grolar Bear
  • I'd do it : skunk_ape
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    I'd be game to get 2 out of the 4 if anyone wants to go in with me. : jingletard
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      I'd go in for one with you. Can paypal you the money whenever : skunk_ape
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        Okay, that's 3 of us for one pack. I'm waiting until the woman gets home so I can hit up her paypal for ... : jingletard
        • mastermike? : skunk_ape
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    wait, how does that work? You have me interested if its digital or no shipping costs : kevp
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      Someone buys the Steam 4 pack. 3 other people pay the purchaser %25 of the cost. That's about $34 per per... : K1Bond007
      • awesome, I didn't see anything on Steam about a 4 pack... : kevp
      • $35.07 per person -- ($135 / 4 people) + $1.32 in Paypal fees, according to http://www.rolbe.com/paypal.h... : Ride-My-Rocket
  • I've sent you (Rice, aethyr and Grolar) a PM. : Nitrium
  • I'll get in on that action if anybody backs out. : mastermike569
  • I am interested in this. : kaddar0
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    I'd be in for another split if enough want to. also to get the us version. : razorblade79
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      Well, me and Grolar are already up to, we just need to know if aethyr and Ride are up too... if anyone dr... : Nitrium
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        You can let me in on this too if anybody drops, You can shack message me if thats the case. : mastermike569
        • Cool. : The Grolar Bear
      • Yep, I'm up -- sorry for the delay. : Ride-My-Rocket
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    YES ! : locater16
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      mastermike569, kaddar0, you + me? : razorblade79
      • Yea if you can get all those guys together ill be down, just send me a PM : mastermike569
  • Yeah I'm down. Sign me up. : virus
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  How many chapters are we getting this time around? While L4D had a better longevity than other MP games, ... : byorn
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    5 campaigns (compared to 4 in part 1), each with versus versions right out of the gate, as well as surviv... : kallanta
    • Gonna be a new game mode too, we still don't know what it is though. : Zek
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  If L4D2 is as good as L4D1, it will be awesome. It doesn't have to be better, in fact I don't really see... : dognose
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    I don't see how it could not be, given that it's quite literally all the same stuff + more. Only thing th... : Zek
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      One thing that will be drastically different in the sequel is how they plan to change up the pacing and g... : Godhatesfatpeople
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        Yeah, the #1 thing that made the first game get old was the fact that the strategies were so cut and dry.... : Zek
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          Naw he still does a fantastic job. In our shack games we use the smoker as a focuser. We have him pull pe... : LoioshDwaggie
          • Yeah but none of that works very well when they realize they can shoot the tongue. He's okay now but the ... : Zek
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    dognose I am even further behind the curve than you are, i just bought L4D tuesday when it dropped to $15... : NexusOne
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      That's what I did, the SP didn't impress me. I will play on easy, can you play now? I am dognoseFPC : dognose
      • sadly I am at work until 7. but I am on call this whole weekend so I can't leave the house or computer fo... : NexusOne
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  Just heard this on Crash Couse while passing a busted pipe spewing hot air: Zoey: Man, I looove steam!... : pyide
  • Zoey: "Have you see the new issue I hate everything magazine?" Fran: "yeah I hate the new issue" : MoreVespeneGas
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    Francis: Hey Zoey. Just pretend they're all helicopter pilots. Zoey: He was a zombie, Francis. I lol'... : Mmmmmoo
    • Her best line comes at the very start. You have to play as Zoey and have her be the first one to face the... : LoioshDwaggie
• well shit, why didn't we coordinate and buy a 4 pack heh. : judge
• Wellllll. I bought it. :) : timaste
• So who wants to go in on a four pack with me? I want two copies . . . : fuzzydamnit

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• EZ MODE FRIDAY : DrFlammable
• I read that as Herpes of Newerth. Vision blurrry. : d fluke
• playing a bunch tonight showing a newb friend the ropes. : RogerDandy
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  We lost two games last night. One b'c Razzle afk'd in the fountain to do something and got kicked and th... : kgargs
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    I figured if Razzle was afk that'd give you a better chance ZING! OHHHHHHHHHHHH : kainen1
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      i've seen games where this certainly would be the case. He has some really good internets I hear. : Xanthos
      • 4v5 is hard period. If you're playing against a team that has ANY idea you're gonna be in trouble... all... : kgargs
  • I do not concede very often (15 games out of 49 losses). That matchup was just stupid and not worth playi... : Delusional
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  The scout population is so horrible :( Played a 1600+rd game and lo and behold our last pick, selects sco... : Iwannaacura
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    scout seems OP to me now. you have to be pretty bad to suck with him. : RogerDandy
    • being surprisingly terrible is somethign that comes very easily to most people. : Xanthos
    • not really, when i see scouts who dont level eye i know they are terribad instantly : Iwannaacura
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      he's not OP. He needed that buff to be relevant..but not op : kainen1
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        just wait till we get a game where someone really knows how to play him. you'll change your stance quick.... : Xanthos
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          i can play him pretty good and i've seen others. just not that quick to sound the OP horn : kainen1
          • well if you have any talent he's deadly. : RogerDandy
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  Been playing arem alot lately if I am pubbing and It is less frustrating to win/lose quick. If I have a f... : bongturbo
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    Why do you play EM? That is scrub express land. : Iwannaacura
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      I only play EM if I want a quick game due to time constraints. : zebosausamite
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        but, EM games can be just as long. : Iwannaacura
        • there was actually a serious study done in the DOTA group which showed that an EM game only averaged some... : Xanthos
        • They always seem to be much shorter for me. : zebosausamite
    • yeah you really have to expect the worst of the worst when you play with em kids. outside of kgargs and f... : Xanthos
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      Quick games that are more carefree. I like how if I farm well I can make up for a shitty on my team and r... : bongturbo
      • ^^^This. If I'm pubbing and I get a strong AGI in an EM game I can carry my team to victory through thei... : kgargs
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  I sat out last night. Gave the wife some fonky donkin if you catch my drift you jonesy motherfuckers : kainen1
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    you should really just have had sex with her instead. : Xanthos
    • i heard that its the bees knees : Xanthos
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      Yeah it crossed my mind. You playin tonight honcho? : kainen1
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        yeah i got a wedding to go to but when i get home imma rock me some HoNstyle. may have to tend to the ... : Xanthos
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          synchronize cocks swatches, I'll be playin too later on. : kainen1
          • You guys need to learn the sit n spin while duo lanning in a pro mode 1800+ game. You cum so hard kongor... : kgargs
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  I love Wildsoul. Anyone care to read my guide? I don't build Wildsoul as a dps agility carry. I build : kainen1
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    I like the idea. You've got the concept right for wildsoul, he's not your standard DPS carry. He can cert... : Xanthos
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      He can't use steamboots stats? Holy damn then yeah, nevermind, for sure enhanced marchers for IAS. I ... : kainen1
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        i'd put the crit on wildsoul, but honestly i like building Helm on him for durability so they can't just ... : Xanthos
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          yeah I mentioned swapping them over in my write up. But I don't put warpcleft on Booboo until I can get ... : kainen1
          • yeah its tough finding the right balance in mid-lategame for booboo and wildsoul. I feel like once you ta... : Xanthos
  • Wildsoul didn't/doesn't have stats. (as far as I know, it's been a while) Why bother with + stats items? ... : boomstickah
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    check out MY wildsoul guide and tell me what you think: 1)pick DAT PEBBUHLS 2)win da game : DrFlammable
    • amazing guide i take back everything i said : kainen1
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      DAT PEBBUHLS Warrrrr Beasssssssssssssttttt : Xanthos
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        premium warbeast guide: pay $20 to have full access and more explanation to the amazing guide to follow: ... : DrFlammable
        • ^^ ION4 Sponsored guide and we're closing submissions down, so this is exclusive man. : kainen1
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      I'm a little bummed with pebbles cool down on his stun. You should be able to get SoM and get 6x size wi... : kgargs
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        its a little known strategy of getting 2 staves of the master on pebbles so that his stun hits map-wide a... : DrFlammable
        • the joke doesn't work because kgargs is so bad he'll never be able to farm that. : Xanthos
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    I hate wildsoul, he requires lots of farming to be very effective and is probably one of the most boring ... : dkrulz
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      Boring? What the hell? You have to micro twice as many units as you normal do and together with his bear,... : Delusional
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        What? He has one buff you need to use and I don't really count his ult because you just swap forms in tha... : dkrulz
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          Bear Form has two active skills - one AOE dmg buff and one HP Balancing skill that lets you siphon off he... : kainen1
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            Do you often want to go into bear form during team fights? Last time I played him I tried to just stay a ... : dkrulz
            • definitely. It's too much going for him not to. See my build above and try it sometime (sans the steamb... : kainen1
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              I never used to use bear form when i played him in DOTA, but then they buffed it and tweaked a few things... : Xanthos
              • Yeah neither did I, that's why I thought bear form should be avoided in this as well, but it seems I was ... : dkrulz
    • I used to think that until I gave him second looks and now he's one of the funnest heroes to play due to ... : kainen1
    • I wouldn't say he is boring, but he is a little hefty in money compared to other heros. However, I need ... : JuffoWup
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    this is pretty much the standard build. and muahahaha.... i seem to recall you saying that you hated m... : miasma(&)
    • o... and i favour enhanced marchers on booboo, for megapwn radiance walking, and post haste on wild soul,... : miasma(&)
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  too busy playing LoL! ... they're really making some nice improvements there.. I tried HoN once, but I t... : dextius
  • Eh no. Not really. : Bamii
  • erm... what? : [7]kami
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    deny just gives more strategic early game options, as well as increasing the penalty for the other team v... : Audhuml4
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      They really slow down the game a lot, given how much longer character progression takes when both teams a... : Zek
      • That's all perception. Unless you're literally playing with pros, very rarely will a team have more than ... : Xanthos
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  oh wow, didn't see this post. Also tons of love for the shack latenight pubstomping crew. It was fun ... : boomstickah
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    the final pubstomp was sadness really. I go in like 3 kills near the end because 3 of their team after b... : JuffoWup
    • Yeah I lost interest, I started going into their forest and Helm different creeps just to see what they d... : boomstickah
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  People who don't know how to play multiple types of heroes and make a balanced team and play RD can serio... : mrseldowski
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    I had a friendacquaintance who who insists on playing a single hero till he's mastered him. It made life ... : boomstickah
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      Only hero in the game i havent played much is Malliken. I know the buiilds/items but its just actually pl... : Iwannaacura
      • Played well Maliken is very powerful, but mostly I just see people getting pwned with him. :( You've gott... : Lexicon_Leidun
  • I get raged when they do this in SD. Can be frustrating for sure. : happynoodle
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  Still haven't touched it since my PS3 Slim and TV arrived. Never thought i'd actually enjoy console gamin... : [7]kami
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    my ps3/360/tv sit idly. I can't be bothered. HoN is too addictive : boomstickah
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      He'll be back in two weeks when the "new" has worn off :) : Bamii
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        NEW MONITOR :) : [7]kami
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          your attention span for games like this is worse than Phil's internet twitting habits. : m0rfus
          • 200+ games of HoN say you can eat my ass (and EVE doesn't count) : [7]kami
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    I'm so ready to spank your ass with Fifa tonight! : Bamii
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      o hell no your ass is toast! : [7]kami
      • So that's why you always try to lick it :/ : Bamii
  • burn the witch! : happynoodle
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  That really fucked us over... :) The first time you dropped I realized that I could actually take o... : dedgecko
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    Yeah, the game controls aren't well suited to microing, other than forming control groups. : Lexicon_Leidun
    • I'm not sure why "tab" wouldn't be the default control toggle that would allow full movement control - al... : dedgecko
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  I played my first game as zephyr last night. I didn't do well but it felt Really good playing as him, I p... : re-verse
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    That loss was heartbreaking because we were so far then so far close then so far away again from winning : boomstickah
    • Yeah, largely my fault too - if i had been playing a bit smarter, we could have done it. : re-verse
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    wow your first time? lucky u didnt have the chance to play him when he was Int based. He's agi based awes... : Iwannaacura
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      it sucks meleeing against him and those faggy tornadoes : multisync
      • yeah generally you want your ranged dudes to fight him and you have top deny/creep kill vs him : Iwannaacura
• I didn't have any problems with the connection dropping after we gave the modem half an hour before turni : c0bra
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  i'm no longer scared to random heroes in game, which is awesome because with a few friends doing the same... : Audhuml4
  • also where is my patch today. matchmaking is all i ask for. and a new hero. and replacing armadon's sound... : Audhuml4
• We won a game last night as 4 int and an agi. Platinum was our tank as blacksmith.. it was hilarious. H... : kgargs
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  i wanted to play last night, but instead passed out no the couch with my youngest one at 9pm. getting old... : m0rfus
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    ohh man i'm a raging cauldron of jealousy over here, that sounds like a real exciting evening. : Xanthos
    • nope, it's called parenthood, you should try it sometime. hopefully get some HoN action tonight. : m0rfus
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    I can relate. Life's more important than donkin' in HoN bro. Just a bit. :) But I know man, as game... : kainen1
    • well...and she has this power. she snuggles up to you, gets comfortable, and voodoo hypnotizes you into s... : m0rfus
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  I did have an excellent game yesterday as Predator. Damn I love him. He does so much dmg, and he can be s... : Lexicon_Leidun
  • His run animation is a little silly looking to me, but I absolutely love the schweee schwee noise his cla... : boomstickah
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    he's ok, I used to hate him but if you build him with Insanitarius + Shieldbreaker as core he ends up OK.... : kainen1
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      Yeah, Insanitarius is the must have - I went for whispering helm next, and the game was over before I eve... : Lexicon_Leidun
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        Second thought - Enhanced Marchers/Steamboots on Pred? : Lexicon_Leidun
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          steamboots IMO. And Daemonic after Insanit+Shieldbreaker....and honestly, you can even get the Warpcleft... : kainen1
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            I say marchers because of the native IAS and your lifesteals. I'm a nub tho : boomstickah
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              I'ts a very kinda either/or thing honestly. Steamboots give you more HP, 5 armor, +15 more average MS, ... : kainen1
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                both wrong, Post Haste is the correct answer for all heroes : Delusional
                • oh god don't go telling them that. now we're going to see a string of games with shackers that end the ga... : Xanthos
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                  Yeah, I don't really agree with this. Post Haste is maybe necessary if the game is going to run really lo... : Lexicon_Leidun
                  • Early post haste lets you power farm and gain lots of exp by hopping from lane to lane in the mid game. I... : Delusional
                  • Its also great the you can diss-assamble ur EnMarchers or Steamboots in the stash then make poste haste : mrseldowski
                • this is only true if you're an extremely good player that pubstomps all the time. : miasma(&)
          • Yeah, I agree, demonic Breastplate is definitely the next item, possibly beginning it before the shieldbr... : Lexicon_Leidun
        • u want the attack speed : Iwannaacura
  • he's awesome. especially if the game goes late, then he can be near impossible to kill. : happynoodle
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    So, just to verify, electrician's purge breaks pred's armor correct? I couldn't tell if the slow was pus... : JuffoWup
    • last patch changed iron hide so that purge no longer purges it. It used to, but no more. : Xanthos

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• sheeeet : MoreVespeneGas
• !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : kainen1
• All over this. : tomservo
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  Damn, $90 on steam pre-orders today. : pyide
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    Exactly what I was thinking. : dmason
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      Probably should have waited for some honest reviews since there is no demo and I really don't know how mu... : pyide
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        videos? im a little lazy and a little tied up leveling 2 chars : oHnOES
        • Last preview I remember: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/preview-hd-borderlands/56124 Some interviews ... : pyide
• FUCK. : Nitrium
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  meh, Amazon.com has it for 45 already and that's without 'DRM' : R@zzle
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    oh suck my fronk already. Don't care how much DRM's is on steam version, it's ready day one, convenient... : kainen1
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      is there really any other "drm" on it other than steam itself? : DrFlammable
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        Not really, and I'm ok with their 'DRM' because it gives me steam community, automatic hassle free update... : kainen1
        • ok good as long as it doesn't have like punkbuster or any other of that shit or limited activations. stea... : DrFlammable
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        this is an important question please answer ^^^^&&&&*******(((((((( : DrFlammable
        • it depends on the game. most of them just use steam, others have activations and bullshit, but I couldn't... : pyide
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      I don't hate Steam, I have every Valve game to date-- but if I can get a game somewhere else for the same... : R@zzle
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        Or if you have 20/10 fiber :) Mass Effect in 40 minutes? Sure why not. : LoioshDwaggie
        • Yeah I went on a spree whenever Steam had a sale when I had cable, but it's just not an option anymore un... : R@zzle
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        cool brah : Nitrium
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          He's got decent points. : SenorSpine
          • Yeah, I was just fucking around. :( : Nitrium
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        well they usually let you preload the game for those with shit connections. 80kb/s is all you get man? ... : kainen1
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          AT&T has a death grip on pretty much all of georgia, so it's them or comcast... comcast was charging us ... : R@zzle
          • what about uverse? : kainen1
  • is steam the drm you are talking about? : oHnOES
  • Pfft, I would pay MORE to get it on Steam. And your disc version will certainly have DRM of some kind. ... : DinK
  • Oh no! I need steam which is always started anyways. What am I going to do? : razlebol
• Stop taking my money, Valve! : The Grolar Bear
• That's 2 for 2 on preorders today. HEY RANDY: I LOVE YOUR COMPANY HEY GABE: I LOVE YOUR COMPANY : LoioshDwaggie
• Yeah, my wallet runneth empty if they keep this shit up :) : Tech T
• Awesome, sold. : AgentPothead
• Damn, Done. lol. : bombay
• TOO MANY. FUCK. : Rehevkor
• Goddamn, hemorrhaging money today :( : Arctic Fox
• I can't handle this. I am going to be broke until forever with all these new releases. : theangrywaffles
• damn so tempting still debating if I should go 360 or PC on thsi one :( : c_man_tmt
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  L4D2 and Borderlands. Now we just need the DragonAge pre-order to go up. : Crimsonbeak
  • And MW2. : Nitrium
• Tempting, but I won't look at this game until after I finish Brutal Legend. : Sailor of Fortune
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  can someone give me the run down on what this is. ive been playing wow for too long : oHnOES
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    Borderlands is a fusion of Diablo and FPS gameplay. You get the randomized incremental loot system of Dia... : LoioshDwaggie
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      i just blew my wad on a 17 button mouse :( i dont know if i can get in on this deal : oHnOES
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        Did you buy a keyboard or something? wtf. : DrZettl
        • phone attached to the side of a mouse : oHnOES
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    fps + diablo with tons of loot and stuff to shoot : Nitrium
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      Without the armor.. q_q : DynaM1k
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        so the loot is all guns? : oHnOES
        • And shields, and grenades, and artifacts : noodleboy723
  • feel free to get on aim if you want to ask me questions. : dahanese
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    kinda like Hellgate: London :P : smax
    • But you don't have to pay $15 monthly to get "extra" nothings. u_u. : DynaM1k
• Holy holy shit shit. My group was planning on 360 but fuck, pre-orderable on steam? Time to contact som... : DinK
• holy shit. fucking hell that's $90 I've spent on Steam today... : deject
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  Steam or 360... I can't decide!!! : pigvomit
  • me neither - this is a tough one for me. : c_man_tmt
  • wtf? STEAM! *slap* : Rehevkor
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    I think I've turned into a console gamer. I would have never contemplated this for a FPS, but now, I...h... : pigvomit
    • we can play together! XBOX FOR LIFE : multisync
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      probably because it's already known the PC version is far superior. Better looking, running, and a strea... : kainen1
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        stop trolling or i'll ban you : multisync
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          im serious sync. read this then, penned by our very own shacker rudds http://www.giantbomb.com/news/fin... : kainen1
          • Even after reading that i'm going to stick with the 360 for the whole fact I know it will work. I don't ... : SlingBlaze
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  so how much is it after the savings? : ass-street
  • $44.99. I'm not taxed via steam so I couldn't say what the total sum is if you're in WA. : pyide
• Goddammit, I wasn't even expecting to buy the game right away but Steam makes it SO tempting... : Serpico74
• oh my god already. : RogerDandy
• Does this game have 4 packs? : kaddar0
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  Do valve pre-orders take your money immediately or when they are released? : Masem
  • immediately. : freakynipples69
• Oh shit, I'm all over this. Especially awesome that there is 10% off!! : Begawkiness
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  How much money do I get for selling blood and semen? : freakynipples69
  • separately or no? : Xanthos
• Bump for those getting home from work. : LoioshDwaggie
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  No preorder for Steam AU users yet, presumably the OFLC has refused to rate it for it's realistic portray... : MeestaNob
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    Can someone from the US gift it to an AU resident? Or is that not allowed? : dmason
    • Yes we can :) : LoioshDwaggie
  • this pisses me off to no end >:( : shavenewok
• Wheres my demo? : Godhatesfatpeople
• Any early reviews or at least solid previews for this game. I need to persuade some of my e-buddies to ge... : Sgt_Boomstick
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  God damnit what the fuck. Too many games to buy :( : MercFox1
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    which ones? : Sgt_Boomstick
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      I just got RF:Guerilla a few days ago, this, L4D2, MW2, and BF1943. My backlog is managable, but it's thr... : MercFox1
      • BF43 is next year....unless you just got the 360 one. I got/getting those too...except L4D2, that game is... : Sgt_Boomstick
  • im getting this, fuck l4d2 : DrFlammable
• I'm buying way too much stuff recently fffffffuuuuuuuuu here comes the 3rd and 4th quarter release rush. : DrWaffles
• Bought on the PC. : Dynotaku
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  So what's the deal with the Multiplayer? Can I have a Shack Borderlands MP server for 4 player action? : RyDogg1
  • I don't think it works like that. Seems more like peer to peer / drop in and out coop with friends' games... : pyide

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  that little bitch ass link has no chance against freeman : qwpeoriu
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    i wouldn't be so sure. i think freeman is fighting an uphill battle. he'll definitely lose to mario : DrFlammable
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      Freeman would just sit there and stare at Mario. As Mario contemplates jumping on his head or some shit F... : locater16
      • That never worked against a Strider : hussdelrio
• i think mario will win... it was my prediction from day 1 : skelom
• frogger beat garret? guybrush out in first round? no JC denton or avatar? wtf is this shit : razorblade79
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  For a guy who you don't see and never hear, is he actually a character? : PointlesS76
  • he is as profound and full of character as keanu reeves : spiderfill
  • you see him in opposing force : GloriousCow
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  Glad to see Duke make the final 8. No real surprise that Link and Mario will win. It's a popularity con... : GeorgeB3DR
  • I feel the urge to lol this. : LoioshDwaggie
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  Master Chief got trolled. : pigvomit
  • Looks about right to me :) : abrasion
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  how the fuck did Kratos and Ryu (from Street Fighter) make the Elite 8? Once has been in all of 2 games,... : riptyde
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    How did Bub and Bob go as far as they did? : pigvomit
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      4chan : Godhatesfatpeople
      • There was a notice that they were disallowing the results of Bub and Bob beating Samus : ruckboos
      • I hope 4chan can get the votes to defeat Sephiroth in the 1st round of a villain standings contest. : pigvomit
    • I love that they destroyed Master Chief and Sonic : mikecyb
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    Kratos has been in three games motherfucker! and, uh, he's awesome : mikecyb
    • 4 games and soon to be 5 : silentbobuk
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      God of War God of War II God of War PSP God of War: Betrayal (Cell Phone) God of War 3 PS3 Soul Cali... : pigvomit
      • Ooh I missed betrayal.... But LBP doesn't really count does it? I'm such a nerd, why am I having this : silentbobuk
      • okay most of those don't count, and I said three because GoW3 isn't out yet :( : mikecyb
• voted Link : ruckboos
• I'm so glad Bub and Bob beat Master Chief. The comments were sooo angry. : CyCo_PL
• it pleases me that bub & bob got as far as they did. that game was kick ass. : strider_
• talk about luck of the draw. Do you think Marcus Fenix would of gone out in the first round if he wasn't ... : silentbobuk
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  WTFWTFWTFWTFWTF How in the FUCK did Donkey Kong beat Raziel? Is this a fight or popularity? : notdeadyeti
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    Popularity, basically. It's "greatest"... not hero vs. hero. : vile
    • Oh well I still call shenanigans :( : notdeadyeti
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  Freeman doesn't even talk, he's a damn shell. Voted link. : Boxelder
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    lol oh yeah because Link talks all the time : mikecyb
    • YAD YAD YEEAAAHHH! : silentbobuk
    • excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me princess : skelom
    • well excuuuuuuuuuse me, princess. : Blucklesworth
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      he doesn't have to talk, he's an unblemished symbol of justice and integrity and that's enough. : Boxelder
      • el oh el : i poop from there
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        and what the fuck is gordon freeman!? I will fight you over this! let me get my wizard hat and staff, h... : mikecyb
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          He's a monitor. : Boxelder
          • And a terrorist. : Boxelder
      • Now cup the balls. Dont forget the balls. : Godhatesfatpeople
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        Contradict much? : Drewus
        • Look at all the people who can't tell a joke when they see one. Fucking internet. I need my delivery. : Boxelder
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        I am Gordon Freeman. You are Gordon Freeman. We are all Gordon Freeman. : pigvomit
        • Now I am going to spend the next 2 days trying to figure that out... : Nighthawk0110
        • I am the free man : uglysad
        • goo goo g'choo : ruckboos
      • He is an 8 year old boy in tights. : Beady
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        And you are an unblemished symbol of retarded : Clay
        • No... that award went to the Nudists. (man I am bored today) : Nighthawk0110
  • did link ever even talk? i cant remember.....been a while since ive played a Zelda game. TP for Wii may... : i poop from there
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    All four of the semifinalists are basically empty shells. None of them are interesting as characters. : Arcanum
    • The better question is how the fuck did Guybrush Threepwood lose to the kid from SoTC? : aethyr
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  Frogger beat Garrett? Oh, yeah, bullshit popularity contests. : Fayk
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    Under appreciated I tell you. : hrdwregk
    • The square from adventure is more of a 'character' than frogger. : Fayk
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  Link is going to win and it's not even a contest. They do this character batle every year and it always c... : Modica Sol Solis
  • Whoa holy shit. Cloud got beat for once? : Modica Sol Solis
• These are so dumb :( : DrWaffles
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  There is so much wrong with the results so far I don't know where to begin. :( : Fyunch Click
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    Hilarious that Master Chief was out in the first round. : aldraek
    • I was thinking more J.C. Denton and Garrett. : Fyunch Click
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  kinda amazing nintendo has 3/4 in the final four : DogDharma
  • Nintendo is the SEC of videogames. : sm00v3d
• I'm sorry but Mario > all : jabuck
• What kind of shit is this? Duke losing to link. I call shenanigans. : weaselmeister