More V5 vs GeForce

umm actually they show gf2 getting 32fps w/ fsaa at 800x600x32 and low 20s at 1024x768x32 w/ fsaa..

v5 here i come!

it's not much faster than a plain ol' GF DDR, but i will say that the pixel shaders look MUCHO purdy. hell... with textures like that and some good anisotropic filtering, who the hell would notice the jaggies while drooling over textures that look like those?

now, i'm not the nvidia posterboy saying that "you've gotta' have it!" but rather, i'm merely saying it looks like a great feature for the future.

i liked it, anyhow.

I don't know if anyone else picked up on this but they say the GeForce 2 will be in stores by April 28th!

holy shit
this french page is showing 80 fps for the Geforce2 in Quake3 at 1024x768x32 on a pIII-600 EB, i820 Mboard, and 256 MB mem. Holy shit holy shit (this is without FSAA enabled) compared to GeforceDDR at what looks like 18 fps at that resolution on that rig.

Well, the Voodoo5 is a valiant attempt by 3dfx to get the company back on it's feet and competitive with nVidia, but in the end it's not so revolutionary.

Market leading product...

* D E N I E D *

They have the english version of the review up
go here :
http://www.actumicro.com/eng_geforce2_1.asp

All these new videocards are very good...















for me to POOP on.

Thanks!

/me thinks the french fucks(like you trusted them anyways.. damn frenchies) forgot to disable the fps cap... Dipshits.. anyhow.. I still want a v5... Falcon 4 is gunna look sweet!.. unless of course the new Matrox g800 is good.. then i know where im going... :)

steve is so biased towards nVidia, you can tell because he wrote that disparaging post about 3dfx before...

Hmm looks like the first GeeForce 2 will be a Slow DDR version..
Well.. we will wait for the Geeforce 2 GTI version then....

Okay, I get vertex lighting, since it's based on the angle/distance of the light sources to a polys averaged surface normal... but I don't quote understand this per pixel lighting.

Anyone care to explain?

Wouldn't it get MUCH MUCH slower as resolution increased versus vertex lighting since the pixels per surface to individually light would increase, but with vertex lighting you paint the same light on the surface?

I'm confused (and not afraid to admit it)

175, I'd just to know how those bitboy guys sucker investors into further funding... talk about throwing money away!

Just curious, why are we talking about BitBoys when we know they are never going to release anything? :P Come on now, it seems everything they claim, whether it be fill-rate, or RAM, is just that...... "claims". No silicon, no beta, no release, nothing. Just.... I hate to say it... vapour.

- Val

Here's a translation of the french site (thanks babelfish):

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Before even as competition arrives at the level of performances of GeForce256, Nvidia markets already its successor ! GeForce2 GTS, it is its name, will be available in stores as of April 28 to the United States, a few days later in Europe. Is this the new revolution ?




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GeForce2 GTS constitutes an evolution of Geforce256. Engraved in 0,18 microns, it functions at the speed of 200 MHz, while the 32 Mo of memory GDR associated hum to... 333 MHz ! Here essential modifications made to the circuit :



engine T&L was improved, to become approximately 30% more powerful. But once again, one will regret the little of titles available exploiting truly the T&L ;

the fillrate profited from a very detailed attention. Where GeForce256 could produce 4 pixels per cycle of clock, composed of only one texture, GeForce2 GTS always creates 4 of them but, this time, composed of 2 textures ! Consequently, the fillrate of GeForce 2 GTS amounts to 1,6 GigaTexel/s (Giga Texel Shader) !

thanks to this fillrate improved, the use of the effect of anti-aliasing, already present (at the material level) on GeForce256, does not affect the performances as much any more. That is true only in OpenGL mode, becausethe antione is not activated yet easily in Direct3D.

the new architecture of the circuit enables him to create without notable loss of performances of the new and really impressive visual effects, thanks to the pixels shaders. Those make it possible to control the appearance of each pixel to the screen, to produce effects such as the bump mapping, specular or diffuse lighting... Unfortunately, the plays while drawing left are still not hustled at the developers.

In terms of performances, GeForce2 GTS expresses all its capacities in high resolution, where it shows on average 20 to 25% swifter than its predecessor. Nevertheless on certain cases, the variation can reach 100% all the same. One is a little disappointed not to note more radical improvements! The limit of performances is not then more of with dimensions fillrate, but of the too slow exchanges with the memory. And this situation will last as much as there will not be memory definitely faster... However, with very fast processors, starting from 700MHz for example, the variation of performances with GeForce 256 GDR should rise to approximately 50 %. We will check that very soon more in-depth. While waiting, if you seek the technological signal absolutely, this card is for you. But if you have already a card GeForce256 GDR and never play in addition to 1024 X 768 points, this new circuit is not of really immediate interest, put aside forthe antione. If you are interested by the multi-media one, its capacities in this field (possibility of addition of tuner TV, of modules of inputs/outputs vidéos, encoding and Mpeg2 decoding) let consider very interesting applications. But it will be necessary to see the offer of the various manufacturers.

next gen NV card will have ondie RAM.
Bitboys are "doing" the same thing

Psst... Valiance is a gay homosexual..pass it along..

someone posted this on the aq2 board, i definitely have to agree with it :)

"[...] Q3 still looks like the glossy, airbrushed, Playboy whore that it truly is. You know there should be something worth looking at, but even if you squint you can't really get into it.

We still want a skanky Hustler slut of a game, with every last painfully ingrowing labial hair in plain sight. [...]"

hehe :) yeah :)

I LOOOOOOOVES me some drugs and whores.

That took like almost 2 minutes to nuke? Tssk tsk. :)

- Val

137, can you say nuke?

insane spam:
why? who cares....

GeForce2 Gts: it follows one another itself




Before even as competition arrives at the level of performances of GeForce256, Nvidia markets already its successor ! GeForce2 GTS, it is its name, will be available in stores as of April 28 to the United States, a few days later in Europe. Is this the new revolution ?




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------


GeForce2 GTS constitutes an evolution of Geforce256. Engraved in 0,18 microns, it functions at the speed of 200 MHz, while the 32 Mo of memory GDR associated hum to... 333 MHz ! Here essential modifications made to the circuit :



engine T&L was improved, to become approximately 30% more powerful. But once again, one will regret the little of titles available exploiting truly the T&L ;

the fillrate profited from a very detailed attention. Where GeForce256 could produce 4 pixels per cycle of clock, composed of only one texture, GeForce2 GTS always creates 4 of them but, this time, composed of 2 textures ! Consequently, the fillrate of GeForce 2 GTS amounts to 1,6 GigaTexel/s (Giga Texel Shader) !

thanks to this fillrate improved, the use of the effect of anti-aliasing, already present (at the material level) on GeForce256, does not affect the performances as much any more. That is true only in OpenGL mode, becausethe antione is not activated yet easily in Direct3D.

the new architecture of the circuit enables him to create without notable loss of performances of the new and really impressive visual effects, thanks to the pixels shaders. Those make it possible to control the appearance of each pixel to the screen, to produce effects such as the bump mapping, specular or diffuse lighting... Unfortunately, the plays while drawing left are still not hustled at the developers.

In terms of performances, GeForce2 GTS expresses all its capacities in high resolution, where it shows on average 20 to 25% swifter than its predecessor. Nevertheless on certain cases, the variation can reach 100% all the same. One is a little disappointed not to note more radical improvements! The limit of performances is not then more of with dimensions fillrate, but of the too slow exchanges with the memory. And this situation will last as much as there will not be memory definitely faster... However, with very fast processors, starting from 700MHz for example, the variation of performances with GeForce 256 GDR should rise to approximately 50 %. We will check that very soon more in-depth. While waiting, if you seek the technological signal absolutely, this card is for you. But if you have already a card GeForce256 GDR and never play in addition to 1024 X 768 points, this new circuit is not of really immediate interest, put aside forthe antione. If you are interested by the multi-media one, its capacities in this field (possibility of addition of tuner TV, of modules of inputs/outputs vidéos, encoding and Mpeg2 decoding) let consider very interesting applications. But it will be necessary to see the offer of the various manufacturers.