Morning Discussion

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  Five minutes after you are sick of waiting. : RomSteady
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    Valve time : jingletard
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      http://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Valve_Time : The Grolar Bear
      • The episode 3 Valve time/actual time made me laugh. : Haxim
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    That was six minutes after I woke up :( : dognose
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      I won't be home until 7p anyway. : RomSteady
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        I am downloading that Heaven Can Wait map at 32 k/s, should be done by then : dognose
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          That's fun, but I still haven't made it out of the parking structure. : RomSteady
          • LOL, i did...once. Somehow we managed to fall into the stairwell shaft from the roof without getting the... : OMGzImBurning
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            I am guessing this is an easy mode level? : dognose
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              This is a "dognose, if you shoot another of those alarmed cars, I'm going to string you up by your testic... : RomSteady
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                I hope there is a pipe bomb and if there is I want it, can I have the pipe bomb if there is one please :( : dognose
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                  *takes pipe bomb* Not until you finish your vegetables. : Dr.Drew
                  • All I eat is vegetables :( : dognose
• Whenever dognose gets in. : Dr.Drew
• tomorrow night. : ass-street
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  Late, usually. After most people in the PST zone have packed it up and gone home. : Alice O'Connor
  • Unacceptable. I demand my free content in a timely fashion. : jingletard
• next week : maulla
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  So, is this the content that allows me to actually play with dognose? i am starting to think he does not... : sheepraper
  • He exists, I've seen him kicking ass and wishing he had more bubble gum. : Maddog_Delphi97
  • I will play with you! : dognose
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  Its up on XBLM, but its priced incorrectly at 800 points instead of the previously announced 560. It sho... : manlyman
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    just paid 560 points for it : Ace417
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      Sweet, it must be fixed. I'll be picking it up now. : manlyman
      • just letting you know i bought it through the web not the console, so i have no idea if you can on the co... : Ace417
  • what?! then it should be on the PC too! that pisses me off : botch
  • If you get to play it, post some details. : jingletard
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  OK I started Steam, now what do I do :( : dognose
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    The same thing you do every night...get raped by the Hunter. : RomSteady
    • Yeah what's up with that :( : dognose
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    Just launch L4D and if the update is available it'll automatically download and apply. : freakynipples69
    • I haven't been this excited since Peggle Nights launch day : dognose
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    Actually, you're better off not running steam until after the update. Some updates don't happen until af... : Maddog_Delphi97
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      Well fishnipples. Exiting, thanks : dognose
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        lol @ fishnipples swear. : Maddog_Delphi97
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          My mom knows I post here. I can't say "fuck" : dognose
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            lol, but... but... you just did! :D : Maddog_Delphi97
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              Quotes make it ok. : dudehoyt
              • I did not "rape" my sister. hmm, does sound a lot better doesnt it. also works with "the holocaust" : papaskot
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    Welcome to the hell of waiting for valve content, dognose. : maulla
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      I guess I need to learn how to wait for games. I am new to this : dognose
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        Its differenet for valve stuff, though. You know its going to come out, you know its ready, you are just ... : maulla
        • the time zone difference is the biggest factor. Being three hours ahead of valve doesn't help the situat... : grabbie
      • The wait for Valve content is excruciating. : jingletard
• Closer to midnight, usually. : ieGod
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  So how will we know, will they email us or something? : dognose
  • You will feel it in your bones, start up steam, and be ready for ZOMBIE KILLINZ! : mysled
  • You refresh the update page on the Steam website until it changes. : The Grolar Bear
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    this is a gaming site. it will be posted in the frontpage latest chatty : grabbie
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      Can I tip someone to get it sooner? : dognose
      • You can try tipping Gabe Newell. lol. : Maddog_Delphi97
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    I will be posting about it. :D : Maddog_Delphi97
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      I am going to try and make it in to work today for a few hours, maybe I can play this evening : dognose
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        Cool! Just don't vomit on the boss... at least too much. :D : Maddog_Delphi97
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          He keeps sending me home. I should probably just not bother today :/ : dognose
          • Maybe he doesn't want you to get everyone sick. Think of the other people dognose! Stop being selfish! : ArcKnight
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  Who is up for some coop and/or versus when this is out tonight? : Mmmmmoo
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    I think I might venture out of the bushes for a little VS. First time playing for me in ages. Prepare t... : kainen1
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      I got banned from the shacknews Chicago Versus because I suck as a survivor so much. :( Who's the admi... : Maddog_Delphi97
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        reverse maybe? lol @ them banning you for that. That sucks dude. : kainen1
        • Yeah. :( : Maddog_Delphi97
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  It will be out at 25:00! : mysled
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    that's authentic Valve Timing (TM) : Postal
    • "It goes to 25:00" is the new "It goes to 11!" : Maddog_Delphi97
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  "The Steam servers are currently too busy to handle your request." Something must be happening, I am jus... : dognose
  • no sometimes Steam is just kind of a dick : Zek
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    UPDATING NOW WOOT : dognose
    • lol, beaten by Dognose to this update. :D : Maddog_Delphi97
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      Btw, how's the bandwidth from Valve for this update? Is it super slow or is it fast? : Maddog_Delphi97
      • Once it finally connected to the server it was like 500 k/s : dognose
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  ITS LIVE, wooooot. Supposed to be working from home today. not happening. [-]September 29, 2009 - Lef... : sreyes22
  • downloading update now : sreyes22
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    What, is the update already out? wtf?!? : Maddog_Delphi97
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      They were reading this thread, and thought "we'll show them, release it while everyone's working!" : sreyes22
      • Yay! Hopefully, it won't suck for me to download it when I get home... how's the bandwidth coming from... : Maddog_Delphi97
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    Good to see that they finally fixed the stupidly unfair medpack spawns, but it would have been nice to se... : Zek
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      You could argue that knowing the location of the medpack spawns is unfair as well. Being able to run at ... : notdeadyeti
      • It is unfair, but the game already compensates for that by making the winning team go first. IMO it's muc... : Zek
  • Downloading now! : jonin
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  September 29, 2009 - Left 4 Dead Update Released Updates to Left 4 Dead have been released. The update... : rmjackson
  • omg i totally beat you : sreyes22
  • Not bad....now if they'll just let teams pick where the tank spawns a la overhead gameboard style at the ... : kainen1
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  change your download location! I'm using malaysian servers and its nearly done :) : niceguynick
  • I hopped a flight to Japan, and it's almost done. Thanks for the tip! : mafu5150
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    How do you do that? : Maddog_Delphi97
    • yes tell us please! : papaskot
    • File->Setting->Change the drop down : R@zzle
    • Steam -> Settings -> there's a download tab or something, where you can change the location : Nitrium
    • files > settings > download region : ysbreker
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      F10 : dmason
      • lol, I told a newbie playing counterstrike last night.. it was funny when he follow my instructions. : Maddog_Delphi97
• great fun. only 2 maps, but they're a bit longer. and the homage to the dawn of the dead remake at the... : harold.johnson
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  Oh God that was awesome :( : dognose
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    That was a lot of fun! : thrallie200
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      Who is DNR? Name is familiar. Pretty cool to play with : dognose
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        Sadly I don't know. Hopefully he replies here. : thrallie200
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          Yeah I would like to play a game with him again : dognose
          • Sorry guys, a little late to the party. I'm here! : DoNotResuscitate
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  My Steam all of a sudden can't connect to the internet : Mr. Goodwrench
  • Keep trying, that happened to me several times but I eventually connected and the addon downloaded : dognose
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  I can't help thinking Valve have fucked up somewhere with steam today. I've done alot of updates and g... : pieman
  • Perhaps it reflects that this is the best game since H-L2? : dognose
• One map. Two games. Two VERY DIFFERENT games. Awww yeah. : dognose
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  HOLY SHIT YOU ALL BETTER READ THIS In one of the safe rooms, there's a ridiculously long text scrawl w : notd665
  • *wrote D: : notd665
  • haha. i chuckled when i read that too. also the PS I AM FAT comment : Mmmmmoo

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  hell I can write an outer join too if you want : mikecyb
  • I can write a under join just for you : askedrelic
• People are really bad at programming. True story. : Yanks
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  Giving up on freelance? I'd never be able to go back to a job! : Wheatloaf
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    yeah maybe. I need to dig myself out of this hole and a real job would help a lot : wtf242
    • Yeah, I'm still digging myself in... I don't know what else to do, I have way fewer options than you. It... : Wheatloaf
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  As someone who has interviewed approximately 459839875 programmers, I can tell you right now that 99% of ... : Dave-A
  • My numbers may be a little off. But you can catch my drift. You can pick up what I'm laying down. You can... : Dave-A
  • It's amazing how people will install/administer phpbb and think they're a php programming expert. I lite... : Ovate
  • I've interviewed a few and I'll add that 'terrible' is an understatement. : yakz
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  oh hey yelp is hiring ruby fags in San Fran : multisync
  • if i was single... : filthysock
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  Wait how can you claim to know SQL at any level, and not know how to write an inner join? Do their minds ... : Toth21
  • Q: "rewrite the following query using sql 89 notation" A: "without a time machine?!" : lonestar3
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  Man. i can't believe how many people are applying for jobs now. My girlfriend recently had an interview f... : mindmann
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    and i bet you that 95% of the people who applied had no business doing so in the first place. : smacknca
    • probably, but this was a very entry level position. Basic secretary stuff. Funny side-story though, o... : mindmann
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    Yeah my bf has been unemployed since January and every one of his interviews has led to naught. I'm not f... : Megara9
    • at least he can kill to help him sleep! : Dave-A
    • yeah, that's about the timeframe my girlfriend has been without a job. It really sucks for her, as it's r... : mindmann
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      sounds like he needs some interview training. His resume is getting him in the door but he might be doing... : filthysock
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        Or it could be that its a highly competitive market where employers can have their pick of the iltter and... : soggybagel
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          highly qualified yet unemployed since Jan? I'm sure its something to do with him, which he can change. : filthysock
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            I was just offering a counterpoint...there very well could be osmething going on in those interviews. ... : soggybagel
            • There's usually a place for talented developers. They are few and far between. : yakz
    • Hes too qualified :( : chungathebunga
    • or he just enjoys resting his head on your bosom as you comfort him for 'another day of unemployment' : multisync
    • AI? Tell him to just take a job at a bank writing middle-tier garbage. It's easy and it pays. : yakz
  • Yup. 16.5% U-6 unemployment right now. : the archvile
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  Inner join? Never heard of it. : omnova
  • Inner? I hardly know 'er! : mindmann
• You should have written him an aggregate query. You'd have bumped your starting salary right then and th... : Colleton
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  sounds like i need to be applying for senior level positions or continue working long startup hours with : Audhuml4
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    haha :( you're still at that same place? : wtf242
    • yeah, but i work from home so that's a small perk. not much has changed, however we are actually in a goo... : Audhuml4
• I think I've written one SQL query in my entire life, and read a short DB2 booklet once. I'd still say th... : FlatlineDixay
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  I know almost nothing about SQL, but after taking two seconds to google that it seems really easy. : sKetchflow
  • yeah same about quantum nuclear physics. bring a fucking reactor i will create energy : Utopia
  • Easy to grasp. Time consuming to optimize. : FuryVII
• How do you feel about job offers where they ask you motherfucking riddles : kaddar0
• play this really loud: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE : Downforce
• hope you get it so we can do happy hour sometime : RikiTiki2
• it's so crazy how much more jobs pay in TX, would this job entail managing a staff of junior and mid-leve... : Halen
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  There are plenty of applicants in the bay area who claim to be masters of various things and then fail th... : TimeDoctor
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    I've seen people start shaking in interviews... from asking them questions that any programmer would kno... : yakz
    • I think these people must have some success, like viagra spammers, so they keep trying. : TimeDoctor
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  i thought database programmers can make 6 figures easy : spiderfill
  • Most databases can be designed by the developer using them and maintained by low-level IT. Some databases... : yakz
• Do they drug test? : snuff
• It's always the food challenge that gets most people. : kramweil
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  Yep, when my place was interviewing before they hired my and another guy they were having a hell of a tim... : dravalen
  • I should add I didn't require any graphics specific knowledge and provided a "closest match" algorithm if... : dravalen
• "Have you ever been stranded in another city because you lost all of your belongings and had to turn to p... : Saman
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  I'm an accountant and i could do an inner join. : Milleh
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    CA, CGA or CMA? : Utopia
    • None! University only, spec in accounting - my wife and twin brother are both doing their CGA, as well as... : Milleh
• Maybe everybody's spoiled on Oracle-style joins? : Rotten Deadite

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• I would not buy a new imac. I am considering sometime down the road getting a macbook to replace my aging... : ryuuseki
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  I own the very first model of Intel iMac (the white ones) and I don't think there are any features they c... : electroly
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    Blowjobs? : g0nk
    • I was lead to believe that there would be blowjobs. : Rotten Deadite
  • I have a first model aluminum... same boat, except the screen since it has a shitty 20" TN panel. So I ha... : adev
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  I would be very tempted. My MBP is acting funny and I live in fear that it's going to die on me (I'm past... : jason bergman
  • Also beef up the lower-end one. I don't want a 24" one. Gimme a full-featured 20" any day. : jason bergman
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  I have a 2007 24" iMac and I love it. I would however trade it and my 2007 15" MBP for a new model 17"... : foo
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    I still don't and will probably never understand why people want laptops greater than 15". : Yanks
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      My job requires me to be mobile, so I need the laptop. However having two computers is pointless. So, t... : foo
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        But I mean the thing is massive have fun working on that on a plane or in any place without a desk : Yanks
        • I know what you mean - but it's actually not that bad. I used a friends for a day because I thought it w... : foo
        • Some people do use laptops primarily to put them on tables and such while out of town. : Zek
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      i agree. the 17" is a bit too large. at that point, i'd rather just hook it up to a monitor and call it... : dopeman
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        NEW RUMOR: http://gizmodo.com/5370242/imac-and-mac-mini-wont-be-restocked-short-term-says-apple : foo
        • Damnit, meant to be reply to main thread : foo
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  what are the supposed changes/upgrades ? : qwpeoriu
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    I'm curious as well : hamachi
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      Blu-Ray rumored. Hardware upgrade, probably : foo
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        unless they bump up the software to create stuff on blu-ray it seems a little halfassed. but I'm not i... : hamachi
        • Yeah, but I'd actually be interested even if it only had BR playback. BR creation stuff would be awesome ... : qwpeoriu
  • Core i7 mobile chips just came out... my bet's on that. : TabsAZ
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    Some of the current rumors floating around: - New industrial design closer in form to the current cinema... : zuga
    • Oh yea and price decreases in line with the price drops that were made with the last update to the Macboo... : zuga
• I love the iMac form, but there's just not enough function there for me. At least not bang/buck and upgra... : dmason
• I'd really like the availability of a quad core processor and generally improved price/performance ratio.... : maddy
• I have a 2ghz glass and aluminum. I could use a bigger screen, more ram (has 3gb), faster CPU and Video c... : not work safe
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  eager to see the new mini, I bought a mini to use as an HTPC w/Plex like last month and if the new ones a... : veras
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    I have a macbook doing this now but would love to move to a Mac Mini to do it instead. : Yanks
    • it's a pretty great solution, so little effort/setup required to make it work really nicely - slick UI, H... : veras
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    I did the exact same thing! did you see all the issues with snow leopard and plex? : hamachi
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      Yeah, I actually upgraded my mini to SL on a whim before I had read about them and then had all kinds of ... : veras
      • yup. I concur. how do you handle rips? rip as ISO? video_ts? or handbrake? : hamachi
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  Considering my 20 month old Q6600 with 8 gigs of RAM is faster than the fastest iMac...no. : Jimbo Ro
  • Oh and my PC has a HD-DVD / BD drive too....and had like 2938938 hard drives, So no no no . : Jimbo Ro
• Synthetic vagina. : voodooraze
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  My guess is the new iMacs will have i5 processors, I GB GTS video cards, optional blu-ray drives and TV t... : mojorisen1117
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    i think i7 is more likely, i don't think there's a mobile i5 part yet is there ? : qwpeoriu
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      Quad core mobile chips have been out for some time and Apple has yet to put one into an iMac and you thin... : Jimbo Ro
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        i simply said one was more likely than the other, i have no idea what will be in the next version : qwpeoriu
        • Does the iMac only use laptop hardware? I suppose it has to : mojorisen1117
• i just want a macbrook with a little more graphical chutzpah : johnny rotten
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  I need to buy a development platform for the iPhone Friday. Looks like I can get a new mac mini for $575 ... : Metasparks
  • You should buy a unibody 13.3" Macbook off me! : pancake humper
  • Mac mini's are also supposed to get updated soon if supply lines are any indicator. : dmason

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• Bioshock and mass effect : Lakipo
• I never finish games :/ : maulla
• You cannot really beat Mount and Blade. That type of game is good in spurts. :P : DM7
• 1) Saints Row 2 2) Mario Galaxy 3) Some kind of Mercenaries game - I don't even remember the name : multisync
• Too many, yet I'm on Gamefly again too. Fuck. I assume you already own SR2 for PC, but from what peop... : DinK
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  you don't wanna know... I have an iWork Numbers sheet dedicated to each system, and I would say that I... : Demius
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    yeouch... just added them up and the ones i have on my list is 81.. and thats not including the shit that... : Demius
    • You need to prioritize the following: ICO Shadow of the Colossus God of War God of War 2 Okami Ma... : ieGod
• I don't really have a backlog, but I do own games that I bought and stopped playing because it wasn't fun... : Fish_Bulb
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  Metroid Prime 1 & 2 : ass-street
  • Working on Metroid Prime 1 right now myself : joesnizzle
• Braid. Fuck that game :( : mysled
• Blood Will Tell - 69.44% http://www.gamerankings.com/ps2/914717-blood-will-tell/index.html Breath of Fir... : cornchak
• http://www.backloggery.com/main.php?user=ruckboos And this doesn't include anything prior to ps1 :-/ : ruckboos
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  Red Faction Guerilla inFamous Halo 3 ODST Ico Shadow of the Collosus God of War 1/2 Uncharted Prin... : manlyman
  • Is that the new PoP? I'm jealous of your backlog. I'd love to play God of War, Ico, SotC and uncharted... : marmite
• In order from currently playing: Ninja Gaiden Sigma PS3 Prince of Persia PS3 Grand Theft Auto IV PS3... : Omaha
• PC 1. Mass effect 2. The Witcher 3. Fallout 3 (almost finished) Console 1. Valkyria Chronicles 2... : Arken.ca
• Games I intend to finish that I haven't completed before: Mafia (I got really far ages ago - working m... : marmite
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  Does Saints Row 2 run better than GTA4 on the PC? If so, how much better? I am thinking of buying that... : posito
  • Anyone? : posito
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    no its a crap port... my friend could barely get it to run at a decent frame rate on a GTX 280 card. : Shadowdane
    • holy crap, that sucks : posito
• Bioshock.... now : mrtony
• Like half the games on my Steam list. : The Grolar Bear
• Fallout 3 DLC, Tales of Vesperia, Castle Crashers. Most of the other stuff I have lying around is either ... : Deathlove
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  How bloody good is the new red faction! I'm addicted to a single player game for the first time in years. : dafugg
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    Red faction is probably the most fun I have had with a game in years. Just one more base I can quit afte... : stgdz
    • I came back to this post to note that I spent the first 3 hours of October here playing this damn game. :... : dafugg
• About 10-15 360 games, 2-3 PS3 games. 2-3 PC games. : dael
• Bioshock, Stalker, Witcher. But I think I might give up on Stalker, in the end, it's just not enjoyabl... : melt_core
• Disgaea Far Cry 2 Metroid Prime 3 (stopped a long time ago) Recently bought: Batman: AA Resident E... : DHAvatar
• I used to backlog games but I stopped doing it more recently - too stressful, not enough time. Just play... : kainen1
• 1) Batman AA 2) Crackdown 3) Banjo Kazooie: N&B 4) Mercs 2 5) GTA 4 6) Burnout Paradise 7) Mass Eff... : skelom
• the fuck is wrong with you go play SMG, and then World of Goo 1. Pixeljunk Eden(just have one level to... : Zek
• Unopened: -Thief 2 and yes, it has been sitting on the shelf since 2000. I'll get around to it. -Lost P... : steauengeglase
• I really dont want to go there :( : .Jayson
• All of this on the PC, once I buy a new system: Assassin's Creed CoD 4 CoD 5 C&C 3 Crysis & Warhea... : code-e255
• All PC Games with single-player campaigns that I never finished: Baldur's Gate I and II C&C Red A : ecclesio
• Saints Row 2, and I cannot for the life of me get into that game. It's so...ugly. : theangrywaffles
• I stopped counting :/ Lately its been a - finish 1 game, buy 3 games ratio for me.. : humbleone
• fallout 3 and finishing fable. i'm so sad. : dahanese
• I don't even want to think about how long that list would be. Pretty sure it stretches back at least 13 y... : Helter Skelter
• play super mario galaxy right now. : Yanks
• PC: Dawn of War 2 Batman AA STALKER 360: GTA 4 Mirror's Edge Deadspace Assasin's Creed All s... : TabsAZ
• Baten Kaitos: Wings of Eternal Darkness Disgaea Final Fantasy Tactics Advance Golden Sun Ikaruga Kir... : ieGod
• all I know is I have a lot of games that I have to play. a lot. : deject
• Super Mario Galaxy, Dawn of War 2, Dead Space (borrowed from brother), Prince of Persia: Two Thrones, sti... : Begawkiness
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  PC BACKLOG 1) Assassin's Creed 2) Empire Total War 3) The Witcher 4) GTA IV 5) Diablo 2 Median XL ... : IHATEDUST
  • CONSOLE 1) XBOX360 2) Halo 3 3) Fable 2 4) Rock Band 5)Dead Space on HDTV 6) HDTV : IHATEDUST
• Far Cry 2 Mass Effect X3 Uplink Fallout 3 GTA 4 Men of War : Mr. Goodwrench
• Lots of games on my intended backlog that I haven't purchased yet, but games I do have: Braid Stalker... : Marrbe
• Batman Arkham Asylum Red Faction Guerrilla Never Winter Nights 2 Arcanum Also just bought a Wii yes... : pukerat

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  I would love to go. : drucifer
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    Well I'll probably be visiting Pretoria at some point while my girl is stationed there. Just wanted to se... : hoov1185
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      Pretoria's ok, parts of it are essentially huge retirement villages, and it's generally quite flat and dr... : ThrillKill
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        Not sure exactly where she'll be staying. She'll be working at the US embassy so somewhere near there. : hoov1185
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          Ah right. Pretoria is fairly safe - when I lived there I had decided that it was probably the most stabl... : ThrillKill
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            I heard about the closure. :/ I mentioned in one of the other replies, but how would I get from Joburg... : hoov1185
            • Oh yeah and I don't mean to come off as paranoid or anything, I'm just oblivious to the place. : hoov1185
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              Carjacking is a major problem.... yes, you essentially have a free pass after 11pm in some cities to shoo... : ThrillKill
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                Dude thanks for all your input! I'll definitely be asking you more questions should they arise. : hoov1185
                • No woz, sm me whenever you have questions and I'll try to help. : ThrillKill
• Watch out for the prawns. : trOmblyj
• I'm from South Africa... lived in both of those cities for a few months. : ThrillKill
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  A good friend of mine spent 2 months in South Africa recently? Do you have specific questions about trav... : soggybagel
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    The only specific question is how to get from Joburg to Pretoria the safest way. Other than that, jus... : hoov1185
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      Well are you white? : soggybagel
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        Very. : hoov1185
        • Your likely hood of being mugged just went up, but your likely hood for walking around nice tourist areas... : soggybagel
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          When we arrived in our B&B in Pretoria (which was very nice) we were given 4 keys each. 1 for the gate, o... : filthysock
          • Don't talk to anyone. Don't touch anything. Don't do anything. Don't interact with anyone. And, try not t : soggybagel
          • Man Pretoria people are friendly, you can shoot the breeze with them. Eye contact is ok unless you're be... : ThrillKill
    • Joburg to Pretoria is easy to travel between, it only takes about 45 mins... BUT the area between those c... : ThrillKill
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  I've been Joberg and Cape Town. We drove through Pretoria, but didn't stay there. : zebosausamite
  • How did Pretoria look? The pictures online make it look pretty nice. But obviously that only shows so muc... : hoov1185
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  I heard that crime was crazy rampant there. I saw pictures of a neighborhood where all the houses had ba... : Jobos
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    It's not like that everywhere. The rich are so scared of crime that they essentially live in fortresses.... : ThrillKill
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      What is there to do there? Do they have nice parks or something? Easy access to drugs and firearms? : Jobos
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        South Africa? You can do pretty much anything... you can go horse-riding in the mountains, whitewater raf... : ThrillKill
        • Also sample the food and culture from the melting pot.. indian, malay, the various indigenous people, afr... : ThrillKill
      • nice parks? Holy shit dude, South Africa is one the most visually stunning places on earth. : filthysock
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    • not for sale anymore :( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blaster_(flamethrower) : filthysock
• My mom told me there's a lot of black people in South Africa : Godhatesfatpeople
• I was there for work for six weeks in 07. Absolutely beautiful country with a serious crime problem that ... : sethmarc
• I only went there to fight a terror mission. It was a blood bath, no civilians left at all. : ryuuseki
• i assume it'll only get worse next year when the world cup is hosted there : whereiwannab

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  • I can't play right away. Got some errands to run. I'll be back in a few hours. : irrerno
• PSN: geneshifter : geneshifter
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  Is this just for pre-orders? Updated since the "beta" from earlier in the year? : byorn
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    • Mistell : irrerno
• PSN: RazLeBoL. I need to finish batman first though. :/ I might give it a try before anyways. : razlebol
• PSN: protoz Not sure if I'll be playing this or L4D tonight though : melkore
• PSN: Hirosushima : hirosushima
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    • Try Gold Rush mode. Horde Mode + CTF = Awesomesauce : carbontree
• Break i might be able to play now, after it finishes downloading : Break
• PSN: thomas_servo : tomservo
• goatfaces : piser
• shwortdogg : shwortdogg
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• PSN: headrush720 I'd also be up for some Killzone 2, Fat Princess or Wipeout HD. : Head Rush
• xbl:beetledung : whistletits
• PSN: Begawkiness Might hop on briefly tonight : Begawkiness
• PSN: Mojorisen1117 : mojorisen1117
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  is this the same demo as the beta? : bakanoodle
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    Its the same as the second one, the one that was only available through Gamestop preorders (that started ... : carbontree
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• PSN: cowbs... if you find me i'm playing with the other dogs : cowbs
• Xbox LIVE is retarded. I can't find this demo anywhere. What is this PSN thing about? Is that better tha : humbleone
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• Because those salaries aren't gonna pay themselves! : MagicWishMonkey
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  what is your point? that they should hire cheaper executives? : dirge23
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    I don't get your question at all. : Blucklesworth
    • Sorry, meant for root. : Blucklesworth
  • Not that I don't think they deserve it for running a fairly large media company, but they kind of already... : mrblarg
• Presumably with him at the helm they raise more money than they'd save by firing his ass and getting some... : Dave-A
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  they ask so they can continue funding the television and radio programming you enjoy : EvilDolemite
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    hows about they don't pay their executives so much? : .frame
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      same idea as with banks (with the exception that NPR hasn't defrauded the nation and been bailed out): ... : EvilDolemite
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        Bah. So rather than cut back executive pay they request joe public to donate his hard earned cash. I th... : .frame
        • they are making - public funding has always been the point. if they reduced their CEO salaries to zero t... : EvilDolemite
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  I think Bean responded to the "executives should not get paid a lot of money" idea pretty well in the pas... : mwasher
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    Most of those executives to which he was referring weren't running a non-profit and partially on the tax : Lunatic Angelic
    • well, they kind of are these days, but with the same salaries! : EvilDolemite
    • not so true anymore. O.o : mwasher
  • I don't remember making this post, but I've made a lot of posts over the years. If someone can find it, I... : Bean
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  I dunno, $530k is pretty fucking low salary for a thing as big as NPR. I worked for a fairly small non-p... : mikecyb
  • also to answer your question, something like 40% of NPR's total funding comes from listener donations. : mikecyb
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    How small was the non-profit for $530k to be considered low? : spectr3
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      between 30 and 40 employees, not taking in a huge amount of cash either. we solely made money from dues ... : mikecyb
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        That's a pretty small company, and I'd consider $530k to be high since it's small. : spectr3
        • I guess it is high, but to be fair the next highest execs (CFO and COO) only made around 200k and 150k ea... : mikecyb
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        $530k is a ridiculous amount of money for a company with 30 or 40 people. I've lead WoW raids with that m... : SenorSpine
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          You should totally start applying for CEO positions, citing your WoW raid leading as experience. : walker270
          • I might even point out that their company has yet to down Rag and lol @ them. : SenorSpine
• I could program those shitty channels for $300 bucks a month. : Phil
• I love when people forget that good talent requires good money. : unjustend
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  Katie Couric makes $15m a year : riptyde
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    does she work for a non-profit though? : X-GOUKI
    • I don't think people quite understand what "non-profit" means. it's still a company that needs someone t... : mikecyb
    • Things need to be put in perspective. This guy made $1.3M for running all of NPR. Couric gets paid $15M... : riptyde
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  Because someone of that caliber wouldn't generally accept any less to do the job. Remember they're st... : boomstickah
  • Usually around 80% less too, IIRC. : one random winner
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  NPR is awesome. Whomever is the CEO is doing a fantastic job worthy of befitting payment. : underground banana plantation
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    how do they make money? maybe I'm just ignorant but if they are doing so awesome then why do they need d... : .frame
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      They don't make money - that's the whole point of a non-profit. : Jonathan
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        According to the 2005 financial statement, NPR makes just over half of its money from the fees and dues i... : .frame
        • I'm not sure you understand what non-profit means. : Conan
        • Yes but it's not making money. It's covering the costs of producing the shows. : Jonathan
        • gross != profit 'make' usually implies profit : epit
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          do you not understand what a non-profit does? just because they aren't making profits, doesn't mean that... : deject
          • i never said anything about profits. : .frame
    • National Public Radio (NPR) is a privately and publicly funded non-profit membership media organization t : EvilDolemite
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      It's a huge organization that requires a talented person at the helm. A high salary for this person is a ... : underground banana plantation
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        This argument just does not fly. Costco CEO makes something like 350k a year. Costco made 71 billion in r... : echoinggreen
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          $500K for the CEO of fucking NPR is not extreme in the least. : EvilDolemite
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            Except it's 1.5 million, not 500k. : deathofrats
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              1.3 million, not 1.5. : dahanese
              • sorry, i was converting from microsoft points. : deathofrats
            • Except that was a contract buyout and not a usual salary payment. : Jonathan
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          I'm guessing the Costco CEO makes a lot more money on performance bonuses and stock options which wouldn'... : walker270
          • $3.2 Million in 2007 - http://www.fool.com/news/associated-press/2007/12/18/costco-ceo-makes-32-million-i... : Jonathan
        • The costco ceo is worth 150M because of costco. Hardly suffering for his employment. : Jonathan
        • http://www.fool.com/news/associated-press/2007/12/18/costco-ceo-makes-32-million-in-2007.aspx For fisc : riptyde
        • That man is paid, he takes home $350K in salary but he's worth a ton and gets bonuses on top of that sala... : qwpeoriu
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          out of all of the companies to rail on for absurd ceo pay, you pick npr : FrayLo
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            Dood it doesn't matter.I think it's a better example. It has been a norm for business to pay huge salarie... : echoinggreen
            • It's acceptable because the market allows for it -- same reason any high profile, high demand, high stres... : walker270
            • Why shouldn't they get rewarded for being the king shit of poop town. Its a desired position to be a ce... : erebus
            • this isn't a share the wealth society. you get paid what the fair market will allow. if you think $50... : dahanese
            • fraylo is right though, roll through some forbes lists of CEOs that destroy value and get paid over 100 m... : Downforce
        • the actual salary that a lot of CEO's make isn't that high. Look at how much Steve Jobs takes as a salary... : zerog83
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          What socialist/ communist crap. How much does someone NEED, then? What is an acceptable salary to you? ... : Jobos
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            rather than what individuals feel they NEED to receive, the companies need to look more at what they NEED : Downforce
            • you have to then redo how shareholders are dealt with across the board. as a shareholder, that's what you... : dahanese
        • You can't look at Salary for a CEO alone. Most CEOs get paid very little for their position. Instead th... : SolrFlare
• http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113184003 That 1.3 Million wasn't a normal salary. : Jonathan
• outrage!! : Mr.SEX
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  Boy, you must really be outraged at how much the health insurance CEO's are making. : FlatlineDixay
  • jesus: Top person makes 125 mil!!! And the 25th on the list makes 1.8mil, pretty crazy: http://tinyur... : Yanks
• Solution: Don't give them money! : SaggyLaybeeah
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  non-profit employees should work for free : Audhuml4
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    welcome to no employees. : drucifer
    • on the flip side you can pay those no employees millions and millions each : Audhuml4
• because they are succeeding at their jobs? : edgewise
• they seem to understand managed growth and not destroying value, so that's fine : Downforce
• would rather they have ads? : filthysock
• You get what you pay for, and that's probably the low end for CEO/Top Level Executive pay. Paying substa... : walker270
• If NPR is run anything like this other nonprofit radio station that I know of then the majority of those ... : sKetchflow
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  This reminds me it's time to google some Dallas radio stations. Since I moved here, all I've listened to ... : Jumperus
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    There is nothing good on Dallas radio. : dognose
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      Unless you like Boston, Journey, and Kansas. : dognose
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        Which does not change fact. : dognose
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          I imagine a 24/hour China Grove station : drucifer
          • I was driving through Wyoming, and heard China Grove 3 times in 30 minutes while browsing through station... : mindmann
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          Yeah, I was browsing a list of Dallas stations and I swear there wasn't a single "Rock". It was all "Clas... : Jumperus
          • You can find Lynnyrd Skynnard but you have to know where to look. : dognose
  • That's exactly what I did when I visted in February. For QuakeCon, the Camaro had a USB port that would ... : the archvile
  • 97.1 the eagle 102.1 the edge I cycle between those and 90.1 which is the kera/npr affiliate. We d... : fleabug
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  They only needed a few hundred thousand to renew Reading Rainbow. : trove
  • they had the money to renew the rainbow; they just chose not to based on a direction they're moving in. : EvilDolemite
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  we did this last year. NPR's a really awesome organization and it takes a lot of work and talent to keep ... : dahanese
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    How is this not true of ANY company? : Colleton
    • ding ding ding! : dahanese
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  CEO's get paid millions because the company owners like giving away money. : Marrbe
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    Nonprofits work for themselves and get a tax benefit. : trove
    • exactly. While for-profit CEOs generally get lower salaries but also get bonuses and stock options. For... : SolrFlare
• I always kind of chuckle when people assume non-profit = staffed solely with volunteers. : liqker
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  Well thats it, I'm cancelling my Radio service. : not work safe
  • Also Howard Stern probably makes about 300 times that amount not including stock bonuses. : not work safe
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  I hope this isn't some kind of sneaky anti-capitalist shit. IT'S NOT ILLEGAL TO MAKE MONEY, despite Obam... : Jobos
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    reminder: they vilified themselves quite adequately, the campaign against them is from shareholders : Downforce
    • yeah, i wouldn't put this all on obama either, that's kind of ridiculous. a lot of CEOs are getting fucke... : dahanese
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  From what NPR has said, they realize that the contract was a huge fuck-up. They don't want to have contra... : yakz
  • oh man i just actually looked in to this dude's story. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?st... : dahanese

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  Or maybe some method of conveying voice long distances to a remote person...... : trove
  • Impossible. : dmason
  • get out : Foxhawk
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    no need to derail this thread with a bunch of star trek fantasies : wendigo
    • Texting while transporting! : ejectorpod
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    O hai alex bell : thrallie200
    • you mean "Ahoy hoy" : father_crown
  • what manner of wizardry is this? : riptyde
  • haha :P : phipple
• I would favor draconian punishment laws, revocation of license, and decreased career opportunities. just ... : NexusOne
• You know it wouldn't be that hard if they de-localized the audio processing. : aldraek
• Entering text on a keypad under pressure is the only way we can train for the inevitable times when we wi... : spiderfill
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  All phones should have GPS enabled and if it detects motion more than walking speed you get a zap if you ... : Prozium
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    What if I'm a passenger? : SenorSpine
    • zap! none shall be spared. : thecray
• *head explode* : drucifer
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  safer than a blowjob? : Snuffles-
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    I'll get the box cutter! : dmason
    • /stomps on impossible-to-open box cutter package : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    I don't know, I spent like half the drive between San Antonio and Corpus Christi years ago with a pretty ... : Jumperus
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      Freeway bj's are the best, especially when you wave to a busload of people looking down. : filthysock
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        Yep, and it usually works out like this: Girl: Tell me if we pass by any trucks or buses so I can sto... : riptyde
        • exactly : filthysock
  • I knew a girl once who gave a guy a BJ in the car... while she was driving. : riptyde
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  What the fuck? We've established talking on the phone while driving is bad too, so you're suggesting we ... : orgcaptainnemo
  • i agree, i think this makes no sense. : mayooms
  • I was going to post something similar. One shouldn't use their phone at all during driving. In fact tal... : Jobos
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    So you consider hands free sets a bad thing? It's legal. And since texting isn't going to go away, conv... : phipple
    • time= best thing. : phipple
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  You're making a joke right? : Haku-Jin
  • Read above and below for the rationale. Sorry, but since it's not going to go away, A solution is better ... : phipple
• Funny, I actually had this thought a week ago. The obvious dawned on me shortly thereafter and then I fel... : famine101
• are your hands really huge right now : Downforce
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  I thought Microsoft Sync did this? I could have sworn it was a selling point of the ads they ran during t... : Jonathan
  • Oh wait it went the other way I think - it would read your texts to you. : Jonathan
• this reminds me of that picture of a post or whatever where someone was asking about a place where they c... : mwasher
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  Why does everyone have sand in their vaginas over this? It's not going to go away, so a solution must be... : phipple
  • The only place the benefit of the privacy of text would be lost would be in the car. But it's better tha... : phipple

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• this and hallelujah by leonard cohen... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mGWVje9GQc&feature=related : akirabob
• Acumen Nation - Elective Surgical Strike (Cracknation remix) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vt4AmGcMH... : -=kodiak=-
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  Miley Cyrus - Party in the USA dognose is onto something. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M11SvDtPBhA&fea... : H@rvester
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    That's not too bad and she's hot a fuck : Utopia
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      yea i would wreck her : mrvandelay
      • screenshot, maybe nws http://www.shackpics.com/files/awwyea_e7ad5ipjnpzos17su561.png : mrvandelay
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    how is she just 16? : mwasher
    • they start pole dancing younger these days I guess : Amadan
  • HEY GUYS DONT HAVE SEX WITH KIDS HEY GUYS HERES A HOT KID DONT TOUCH GUYS.. HEY GUYS : sludge vohaul
• Fleet Foxes, Blue Ridge Mountains http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m8CkxXhPtw : shadebane
• Thunder.....horse! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuphOxBX8YI : Dave-A
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  Buckethead and Brain jamming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvY3_nYRI20#t=15s : Rag and Bone Man
  • pretty trippy. : YerMothah
• Alice in Chains - "A Looking In View" : Schnapple
• Great song, I love Petty : Milleh
• Mr Jones : Talking Heads : drucifer
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  Ian Brown - In The Year 2525 (cover of a 60's song by Zager & Evans) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0... : Hattoriandy
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    worst song ever (the original) : drucifer
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      the original is bad altho i'm liking this version, his new album is top stuff, being from manchester i'm ... : Hattoriandy
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        who am I to judge, I'm listening to the Orb remix of Depeche Mode's 'Happiest Girl' : drucifer
        • ahh love the orb, just stuck towers of dub on from u.f.orb (15min long) "hello is that reception londo... : Hattoriandy
• I've actually been listening to Steve Martin's "The Crow" lately. Some really decent stuff on there. Wort... : mindmann
• anything by Hey Rosetta! : skelom
• Camera - Editors (Sebast!an remix) : ghost hacker
• Jay Z - Empire State of Mind (LOL) : dopeman
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkUVToIfrKg : mikecyb
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  The Antlers - Bear http://youtube.com/watch?v=PxFwAmYuYds : Afterglow
  • good stuff. : shadebane
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  The Used - Blue and Yellow: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0ckP2JKy_U : ra1n
  • I'm 0-2 on shacktags today. : ra1n
• British Sea Power - come wander with me http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwUrtZB16PY : jahulio2
• i love Paramore's new CD =) : mayooms
• http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G29d6RDSK1c : mrvandelay
• Last.fm says: Miike Snow - Animal http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLHjKgQt39s : DrWaffles
• Everything on My Morning Jacket's Z. : coldfusioncs
• Avenged Sevenfold - Scream http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JtYlaPYh3w & Audioslave - Like a Stone ... : uglysad
• JET's new CD is really catchy. : thejm4n
• Art of Trance - Kaleidoscope : the archvile
• Underground Resistance/Mad Mike - Jupiter Jazz http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQv3dCkY2Tk : Mansmells
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  The Tallest Man on Earth - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OlfhYmyVV4&feature=PlayList&p=72F9D9975E2ED975... : mnsnota
  • Where Do My Bluebirds Fly. : mnsnota
• Anything from NIN: Ghosts : foo