Morning Discussion

With your Shackstaff rendered gibbering wrecks by the Tokyo Game Show, guest Chatty maestro Ramesses Jebediah 'thekidd' Ralph Jimbob Kidd II steps in to save the day.

"If you were 6 months into a relationship and someone told you they had a mental disease, would you be upset?" my friend asked me. I delved deeper into the enigma, "you mean like being a vegetarian?" He raised his eyebrow, a sign that he took my question for mockery. It's true, I didn't care about the answer to my question, but he knew I cared less about the answer to his. It was a stalemate. That is, until the waitress came to refill my tea. Seeing his opening, he repeated the question to her. "If you were dating someone and they told you they had a mental illness, would you be mad at them?" The waitress responded, "like being vegan?" Checkmate.
From The Chatty
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    September 24, 2009 7:04 AM

    HoN

    Armadon - more like AWESOMEadon.
    Played 2 games with him last night that were both stellar. This guy is amazing. I need help with builds/item loadouts though. I usually go with my standard:
    2x Pretenders (into bracelets)
    2x Runes
    1x Mana Pot
    Marchers eventually

    Depending on casters or not I go into either
    Helm or Shaman's then for the moneyshot with a Behemoth's. With my ult and spine spamming I can be mobile enough to escape and let my heart regen kick in. Usually don't get to build much more as both games ended pretty quickly.

    Seems like best early lane gank build would start with
    Spines
    Snot
    Spines
    Armordilla?


    How do you guys do the 'tower diving' with him? Is there some trick to turning around so the tower hits you in the rear?

    His sounds ARE fucking annoying though.

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      September 24, 2009 7:06 AM

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      September 24, 2009 7:06 AM

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        September 24, 2009 7:07 AM

        yea, i did it the day that became an option.

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      September 24, 2009 7:07 AM

      Is this your favorite game of all time?

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        September 24, 2009 7:09 AM

        you are not in it, so YES.

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          September 24, 2009 7:13 AM

          cool bro

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            September 24, 2009 7:20 AM

            do you want an invite? sm me your email. It's stupidly fun even when there are dramabombs.

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              September 24, 2009 7:22 AM

              I've been in the beta for a long time

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                September 24, 2009 7:38 AM

                well fuck you then, PLAY

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                  September 24, 2009 7:45 AM

                  I can't handle playing these games I have fully realized.

                  I am terrible at them and when I get told I am shitty it discourages me and don't play anymore.

                  I haven't played LoL in like a week because of this :(

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                    September 24, 2009 7:50 AM

                    play with friends, ignore whatever anyone else says. the games are incredibly fun and it takes some time to learn, but its well worth it.

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                      September 24, 2009 7:58 AM

                      I just end up feeling like I am a feeder and not aggressive enough. Just makes the 40 minute game frustrating and ends up becoming a downward spiral of rage :(

                      The items were a huge turn off for me when the game first launch, although with the recommended items feature added I could possibly enjoy it more. That's one major thing about LoL I like. Maybe I'll try it again this weekend. I'll have to make a new account though, my PSR is probably all sorts of fucked.

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                        September 24, 2009 8:01 AM

                        stop being a baby about the PSR. come play you fag

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                          September 24, 2009 8:09 AM

                          don't they matchmake based on PSR? I don't want to get roped into non-noob games

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                            September 24, 2009 8:11 AM

                            just search for games that say 'noob' or start your own and don't autobalance like conandan/reptile do all the time.

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                    September 24, 2009 7:51 AM

                    stop being so gay and just play fool.

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      September 24, 2009 7:07 AM

      Multisync should I be playing this game? And if I play with you will hot babes also play?

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      September 24, 2009 7:08 AM

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      September 24, 2009 7:12 AM

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        September 24, 2009 7:13 AM

        armadon has a skill that reduces damage he takes in the rear, due to armor plating or whatever.

        the trick is to turn your back to enemies to have this skill reduce the damage you take.

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      September 24, 2009 7:25 AM

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        September 24, 2009 7:31 AM

        He is a direct port of witch doctor from DOTA. Assassin's shroud now works with his ult without breaking the channeling, its a recent change.

        Staff of the master is my favorite build because it greatly increases the damage from his ult. Getting an astrolabe is really nice as he can be a powerful healer with it and it makes him rather tough to kill.

        Some people will recommend a codex to synergize with cursed ground and as far as heroes that codex works on he's best, but as always there are probably better items out there. Totem is always a good choice, as is frostwolf so people can never get away.

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        September 24, 2009 7:38 AM

        1. he is based on the witch doctor, the skill they replaced was an AoE heal that drains mana really fast.

        2. yes it does work.... but it is quite a pubbish thing to do, as there are many heroes that have an AoE stun that will interrupt your ult regardless of whether you're visible or not, and most organized teams will buy dust when they notice somebody has invested in a shroud. OTOH, i really approve of it for setting up a good maledict/cursed ground --> cocktail --> ult.

        3. he farms quickly, and you can really abuse the neutral camps with a maxed cocktail. he 's one of those heroes that can basically build anything and be successful. very item-independent. you might consider a codex if you farm well in the early game. i prefer shrunken head to assassin's shroud. staff of the master is great, but should be gotten later rather than earlier. totem and frostfield plate are both decisive factors in teamfights. some people that are very focused on ganking, get a portal key, but that's probably unnecessary against pub opponents.

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      September 24, 2009 7:29 AM

      Tower dive by finding a hero that can't do much to you, charge your ass in spamming quills and snot. Generally they'll either run away which lets you get the back-damage reduction, or they'll run in circles around the tower, but generally you'll still get your side-damage reduction.

      most of the time it consists of having full or close to full hp and finding heroes that are low, then chasing in to finish and getting the hell out before trouble comes.

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        September 24, 2009 7:30 AM

        how about items/starting loadout?

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          September 24, 2009 7:32 AM

          yours wasn't bad, but i'd recommend getting a shield to block some damage. if you get helm of the black legion with his damage reduction it makes him a real tough tank.

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      September 24, 2009 7:41 AM

      1 awesome game with soul reaper, 2 really fucking dramabomb bad shitgames full of tards made me tank below 1500 again


      grrr

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        September 24, 2009 7:49 AM

        It's always the nights where I sit down with a goal to reach a certain PSR that I lose miserably, and the nights where I don't care at all that I go on winning streaks. Last night I intended on playing one game, and wound up staying up waaaay too late, drinking waaaay too much (sorry chem!) and winning 3 in a row with a couple other decent games mixed in.

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      September 24, 2009 7:46 AM

      I had nothing but shit games last night =(

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        September 24, 2009 7:50 AM

        you were such a LOLarachna

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          September 24, 2009 8:12 AM

          I really hate that hero. I probably could have played her a bit better but my heart wasn't in it =/

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            September 24, 2009 8:22 AM

            what's to hate, she's pretty awesome for harassing and just beating folks down. The game with jayjay as arachna was just insane. He was like lvl 18 in your base ganking you fools when the rest of us were 10-11.

            AND YOU GOT SNOTTED

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              September 24, 2009 9:59 AM

              You sir, have mistakenly assumed that one can only hate a hero if that hero is bad.

              To the contrary, it's clear that Arachna is a really good hero. Still hate that bitch.

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      September 24, 2009 7:46 AM

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      September 24, 2009 7:47 AM

      EASYMODETHURSDAY

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      September 24, 2009 7:50 AM

      if you want to play him as a ganker, bottle is awesome. if you're going to rice for mock of brilliance, you can probably skip it.

      i usually go 2 shields and 1 runes

      get a helm of the victim in the lane.. and decide on helm of the black legion or shaman's headdress. i usually end up getting the headdress, but sometimes i also decide to save up and go straight for mock of brilliance.

      throw in bottle + normal marchers somewhere in there, maybe a beastheart if i need the hp. my goal is to basically have mock of brilliance by 20-30 minute mark. after that it's a push fest, and the gold doesn't stop rolling in.

      post haste --> behemoth's heart --> daemonic breastplate

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        September 24, 2009 7:53 AM

        so mock really, what about mana/health regen issues? I was going for sustainers to try and keep that up

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          September 24, 2009 12:00 PM

          if i decide to go mock of brilliance... i'm going to be farming for much of the early game. if i want to play more gank-heavy i'm going to get bottle and delay mock.

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      September 24, 2009 7:50 AM

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        September 24, 2009 7:54 AM

        don't know what it was before - never used him. just know he's AWESOME SAUCE NOW. Also love the escape method of just spamming spines to trigger restless to increase movespeed + hurt pursuers.

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        September 24, 2009 12:01 PM

        it's so much better now!

        really synergizes with his chasing style a lot more than attack speed.

        you'll be busy goo-ing, quill spray, whack once, run forward, rinse and repeat. damage matters a lot more than attack speed in that scenario.

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      September 24, 2009 7:55 AM

      i also played Armadon last night, and it was pretty sweet. Did not die or kill much, but I helped a lot of ganking and made myself an unkillable target in team fights.

      But what a fucking dumb soundboard.

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      September 24, 2009 8:10 AM

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      September 24, 2009 8:30 AM

      I got into two pubstomp games and the pubstomping team had one of their guys drop they were pissed we wouldnt remake, and kept trying to pause and vote kick our team. they conceded at the 15min mark. Played another game same thing happened pubstomper team has another leaver.

      So whats the QQ now everyone crying about ophelia cruising around with them baby predasaurs lol. My teammate had like 4 of them and team would just run when they saw her. They need to patch thse gamebreaking things quick.

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        September 24, 2009 8:55 AM

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          September 24, 2009 8:59 AM

          yea i knew. minotaurs, catmen, etc. are still better actually. the predasaurs are big and scary looking, but can't lockdown or use damage damage abilities and don't have an auras (I think).

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          September 24, 2009 9:01 AM

          You should point him to an Ophelia guide instead, from what I've seen he could use that a little more.

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            September 24, 2009 9:04 AM

            bring it, mcpants.

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              September 24, 2009 9:08 AM

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                September 24, 2009 9:11 AM

                Not if the odds are stacked against you kgargs. I've seen three complete failures and only heard rumor of his legendary A game.

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                  September 24, 2009 9:16 AM

                  you missed a legendary double arrow game, mcpants.

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                    September 24, 2009 9:22 AM

                    lol i bet i did

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                      September 24, 2009 9:29 AM

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                      September 24, 2009 9:30 AM

                      these guys were somewhere between "ultra bad" and "comatose". 6 TP scroll might have also worked

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                        September 24, 2009 9:36 AM

                        i lol'd at comatose after reading kgarg's post.

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                  September 24, 2009 9:29 AM

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                    September 24, 2009 9:29 AM

                    ?? I haven't even played Chen in a few weeks... I think maybe once with mcpants when it came up on AR

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                      September 24, 2009 9:35 AM

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                        September 24, 2009 9:37 AM

                        god i get such pleasure of kgargs making fun of other people. Also, foxhawk its been like a week and a half since the last game where you completely failed at chen. delusional, plat, dont' remember who else was in the game but you were like eight levels behind me at one point because of your junglefail.

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                          September 24, 2009 9:40 AM

                          haha my apologies, i'll put it on my calendar next time

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                    September 24, 2009 9:42 AM

                    damn kgargs you've been quite catty lately about people's games. :) Everyone has good and bad games. I've seen Fox play Chen well in games we've played *shrug*

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        September 24, 2009 9:57 AM

        Why do you keep joining pubstomp games? It is pretty lame to refuse a remake in a balanced game.

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          September 24, 2009 9:59 AM

          i wanted a challenge. They were the pub stomp team, they deserve to lose, so they wanted remake i told them fuck off and our team would not vote for them.

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            September 24, 2009 10:01 AM

            People who don't vote to remake when there's an early disconnect are fucking scum.

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      September 24, 2009 8:38 AM

      So who think SCOUT is OP now? With his lvl 4 stealth and a few items he can take some1 from full to less than half health in those 4-5 super quick shots. :S

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        September 24, 2009 8:56 AM

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          September 24, 2009 9:03 AM

          yeah he's not OP because he has very little damage. If he were stronger, maybe, but right now he's just quite powerful. Great ult, kickass eyes, and a nasty combination for attacking agi heroes.

          He doesn't really do shit damage so his vanish attack only ends up doing as much as like a blink strike from night hound.

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      September 24, 2009 9:05 AM

      I'm starting to find that the biggest impediment to my performance in a game is getting constantly ganked in the beginning, particularly when I'm playing a character I'm unfamiliar with. The other half of it is that I'm too passive to set up my own ganks, partially because I have a hard time trusting teammates and also because I'm a pansy.

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        September 24, 2009 9:16 AM

        without using the mic a gank is nigh impossible i feel unless you know how certain people play. I enjoy laning with a shacker who has a mic as I can just merrily follow their lead and it works out really well. I just feel like a tool talking into my crotch while my girlfriend sits there giving me weird looks (since laptop is on my lap and the mic is internal)

        Just be really passive at the start and if you are melee against a ranged either swap lanes, get a ranged to lane with you or hold back and fight at the tower.

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          September 24, 2009 9:24 AM

          hahah ganking is easily do-able without a mic once you're established enough in the game to know what your hero can do, what your allies heroes can do, and what the enemy team can do. You play the same matchups enough and you'll be able to predict exactly how a gank will go down, it takes almost zero coordination with your allies unless the enemy player is far more skilled than you or you're not used to that kind of gank setup.

          dota has been around for many years with no mic capability and people have gotten along just fine.

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            September 24, 2009 9:43 AM

            There isn't much text communication in most games I've played, either. I guess everyone expects everyone else to read minds.

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          September 24, 2009 9:48 AM

          I am usually on vent with the guys I usually play with. Problem is, using it leaves the one or two randoms out it the dark. That's no good, either.

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            September 24, 2009 10:01 AM

            Man I won't shut up on vent sometimes....I think it's just a weird kinda pubby thing where people don't bother talking to those they don't know.

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            September 24, 2009 10:03 AM

            I don't see why you'd ever use vent when there's built-in voice comm that comes w/graphical extras (i.e., who's talking)

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              September 24, 2009 10:27 AM

              There is even lane talk so you don't annoy your whole team talking to your lane partner.

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                September 24, 2009 10:31 AM

                this is why i use vent. don't have to annoy anyone I don't know, voice chat is much clearer and easier to hear and control volume. also helps in getting games together when you play more than one and with more than one person.

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              September 24, 2009 10:36 AM

              We use it for other games and also outside of games (organizing, bullshitting, etc). It's good for communication among us (I'm always asking for tips), but not so good for the team coordination.

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              September 24, 2009 11:06 AM

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        September 24, 2009 9:22 AM

        buy wards, this is the #1 reason people die to ganks. Just politley ask your teammates to buy wards too and 99% of the time others will too. You buy them first and point out the spot and usually your teammates will follow too.

        Depending which lane im in ill ward the path from river and the inner tree are that leads to the lane from top or bottom.

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      September 24, 2009 9:45 AM

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      September 24, 2009 11:31 AM

      I have developed an irrational love for Pollywog Priest and his host of disables. It's way too much fun to roam the map calling out ganks and trapping people in wards.

      It's pretty funny to see someone helplessly trapped in wards getting focused to death.

      What do ya'll think though, is it smarter to trap a hero in wards or protect a tower? I'd rather have a guaranteed kill than a tower at 40% health and 3 enemies dancing the tower still.

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        September 24, 2009 1:51 PM

        Someone give me your opinions.
        Ult to save a tower, or save ult for herokill?

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          September 24, 2009 2:23 PM

          I think the hero kill is usually a better option, unless your ult can provide you with the opportunity to deny your tower. Getting the kill is just as much of a deterrent to a push as throwing your ult in front of the tower.

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          September 24, 2009 2:28 PM

          tell lakren to go in, then run away

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        September 24, 2009 2:52 PM

        love me some Polly.

        If there are heroes in my lane, I save em, but if we push to a tower and there's any chance the push won't work, I drop the wards on the tower.

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      September 24, 2009 6:55 PM

      lul you want to get hit in the rear

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        September 24, 2009 7:18 PM

        Someone should make Night Hound and Armaddon porn.

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