Left 4 Dead 2 Demo Details Clarified

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  Choo Choo! Here comes the clue train: it encourages Steam pre-orders. Steam pre-orders: more money tha... : A Trusted Friend
  • yeah Valve makes so much money from Steam digital purchases. None of it goes to retailers, or EA, just st... : Seabass307
  • What about consoles? It's the same thing they did with L4D1. The entire purpose of a demo has been to giv... : saunders45
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    If that were the main reason, then why not delay the xbox360 version by a week to maximize steam sales...... : ajvitaly
    • Because their publishing/retail partners would object? : thesubtlesnake
• The reason they give hte demos out first to those that pre-ordered is to keep a certain intelligence leve... : Dooby143

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  email them : Johnnsen
  • Done and done : ShXIII
• It was exactly same for L4D1 and I know lots of people who couldn't help themselves from buying to get i... : zooolander
• The big incentive to valve is to encourage people to pre-order through steam - since all purchases throug... : gekidoslair
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  hype! hype! hype! didn't work on the last one though, everyone who paid full price ended up kicking th... : dangerdoggie
  • You're being silly. The game sold extremely well so it did work. And you can't possibly speak for "everyo... : booyaka
  • What?? L4D was very much worth the $45 preorder price I paid. I never kicked myself in the nuts. : OmegaRed59
• yep kinda back asswards there. this might be Valve Jumping the shark , they had a good run though. : spiderdemon007
• Quick to lose faith, eh? You aren't looking at WHY they started that way. You seem to forget, the level o... : Dooby143

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  No one wants to hear your fan boy rants about L4D2 being the same as the first game. Just a heads up. : Techy007
  • Agreed. : SerratedDrums
  • Uh, that wouldn't exactly make him a fanboy. : The Grolar Bear
  • Do you even know what a fanboy is? YOU just made the fanboy comment. : SFtheWolf
  • I want to hear them just a heads up : spiderdemon007
• S TF U! : Yxalitis
• loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool : Godhatesfatpeople
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  What you did; i see it. : Jiven
  • A new way of saying of that what is an old phrase is what you did there. : shurcool
• by looking at the carneval gameplay trailer I could not see a clear difference between L4D1 and L4D2. I'm... : detolicious
• lol : shurcool
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  L4D2 troll fail. : Lukiopimp
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    fanboy defense FTL : wfalcon
    • reactionfag for the win! : brainchild420
• lol Very nice. : Hit in the Head
• +1 : SFtheWolf

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  Why shouldn't they reward people who have pre-ordered? : johnsto
  • They sure can. But why reward with a demo? Get something else as a reward. The entire point of a demo i... : FirstPersonCooter
  • That was not his point. "Here you get a glimpse of the crap you just bought." : Johnnsen
  • Wasn't the reward a baseball bat? : YummiGummi
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    You do understand the definition of the word demonstration? : ganjatron
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      Demos take on entirely new form when it comes to games. It's one thing to demo a new car, it's another th... : Shadsy
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        Oh pls, it's no different for games. just some ppl are too eager for any leftover table scraps before th... : Xulu
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          A beta is for testing purposes. : Johnnsen
          • I'm promoting you from captain to major obvious Ex: SC2 - debugging for devs, early learning for me. : Xulu
• especially if you look at it from a pure development effort standpoint: 1) valve has to spend extra de... : gekidoslair
• What exactly is the point of charging full price for a game you've already bought? (Being Left 4 Dead ... : SFtheWolf

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  You have to have a card or paypal registered to the country you're holidaying in, otherwise steam won't l... : thearrow756
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    Yes, a friend would use his then. But apart of that, would it work so you would get the uncensored thing ... : Johnnsen
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      Good question, I don't see why not. I doubt valve is going to implement some sort of steam server authent... : nevlos
      • Well it does give you the uncut game when you get it via a gift, but I'm not sure how it is with a preord... : Johnnsen

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• The first one was also on sale via Steam prior to release. Only $5 cheaper but it was good enough for me.... : pyide
• Either 2 months for the big 50% sale or only 1 month and a few days for a 25% sale (Christmas sales) ... : A Trusted Friend
• Amazon had L4D during their day After Thanksgiving Sale for $25 last year. I wouldn't be surprised if som... : sm00v3d

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  They unlocked the demo for everyone last year, and did it before release. : Crabs Jarrard
  • well they said when they announced the demo (with left 4 dead 1) they said pre-order would play it 1 week... : ClawHammR

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• dido! wait is this the opposite of a troll? is it this http://rookery2.viary.com/storagev12/10275... : Seabass307

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  I agree with you there sir. Seeing as how it lost sales in Australia you would think that they would have... : RisenAshes
  • I guess the point would be to get people to pre-order it so they could get demo access, but... wouldn't i... : Shadsy
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  Seems pretty clear that making a demo pre-order only would entice additional customers to buy the game, s... : GilesH
  • I don't really see how that would attract more potential customers than releasing the demo for everybody.... : The Grolar Bear
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  Well, it's not pre-order only. You just get the demo before everyone else if you pre-order. : Arceihn
  • Really? Well, that changes everything. : The Grolar Bear
• Yeah, that's a very un-Valve thing that Valve does. : zipr

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  It's funny. Left 4 Dead 1's demo worked the exact same way. : Chris Faylor
  • (Pre-orders got it a week early: http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/55765) : Chris Faylor
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    But you could just DL the dedicated server and launch the demo that way :p : Beady
    • Who's to say the same won't happen again this time? : Chris Faylor
• Well the game's launch isn't until the 17th, so if they still planning are making it available for everyo... : pyide
• Maybe they hope L4D1 will act as demo. : Johnnsen