Valve Responds to Left 4 Dead 2 Ban

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  Microsoft can afford to buy off officials. : Fyunch Click
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    Gears of War 2's content is pretty tame. : IndigoAK
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      yea heads and exploding and curb stomping is kids stuff : jonin
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        Yeah, but compared to guts and other internal organs spilling out and what they've described in L4D2, the... : IndigoAK
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          You can chainsaw people in half in GoW man. Or go up behind them and run the chainsaw through their back/... : h o s t i l e
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            Blood goes everywhere, not guts. : IndigoAK
            • Guts would be over the top. : Haku-Jin
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          Internal organs? You chainsaw through muiltiple hearts from inside a monster's body in Gears of War 2, wi... : TrptJim
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            But its not a human. : Fighting_Dairy_Farmer
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              well then that makes it all ok! : jonin
              • Obviously no it doesn't, but that is the flawed reasoning in use here : CasbahBoy
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              replace zombies with kittens - no humans, problem solved! : razorblade79
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                No, replace it with a giant pickle. NON ORGANIC! : fade2black244
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                  What sort of pickles have you been eating? : rick
                  • The non-organic kind. : fade2black244
              • How about when you cut someone in half a rainbow shoots out and candy splatters everywhere? : YummiGummi
• Zombies are real, but aliens are not. : mojorisen1117
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  Also how did the original L4D get a rating and not this? : a176
  • melee weapons, apparently : MrBig0
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    Do they still sell Manhunt 1/2 in Australia? : dedgecko
    • Sure do. You can walk into most stores like EB Games, GAME or JB-HIFI etc and pick it up off of the shel... : Rhuri
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  You expect consistency in their rating procedure? : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • Touche. : Rhuri
• Its got nothing to do with gore, guts, organs or blood... its the rabies, the rabies! : hectadectagon

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  GTFO MORAL FAG : landaishan
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    Well excuse me, I suppose you allow people in your country to congregate on a street corner and talk to e... : Vreenek
    • LOL. The amount of sarcasm in this message is beyond words. : bob3578
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      lol i only read the first sentence of your post : landaishan
      • This is everything that's wrong with the internet, lol. Shack needs a sarcasm tag. : etherealrhythm
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        Congrats. You have won the Complete Douchebag of the Comments award for this article. : ZoDD The Immortal
        • gtfo moral fag : landaishan
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  You sir a fucking panzy ass bitch who cant get his head around the idea that zombies are the most kick as... : RisenAshes
  • You sir, need to get your sarcasm detector looked at. : hyperion25
  • Wow, not the "sharpest tool in the shed" are you son? : Bobthecow81
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  LOL, nice 1984 reference. It's pretty true honestly. Looks like I gotta remove Austrailia from my Zom... : HL3dsx
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    someone finally got the George Orwell reference :) .. 2 others didn't even detect the sarcasm lol. : Vreenek
    • Front Page plague. I for one enjoyed it. : spazzium

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• Nobody will do that sadly. The trick would be to force ALL developers to put adult content in all the ... : nutcrackr
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  isnt australia a democracy? cant australians just... vote out their nanny state? presuming they want to, ... : radio_babylon
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    That doesn't give the majority the right to break the rights of the minority any more than a single dicta... : Marrbe
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      i never realized that "playing any game i want" was an inalienable right. : radio_babylon
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        "...and the pursuit of Happiness" Yup, it's right there. Though I doubt Australia gives a shit either... : GigiLeCheshire
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          wow, i never realized that extended to "doing anything i want that makes me happy"... it makes me delerio... : radio_babylon
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            Are you comparing being allowed to enjoy hobbies in the privacy of your own home to murder? That's the s... : GigiLeCheshire
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              im making the point that "doing what makes you happy" =/= "pursuit of happiness"... just because it gives... : radio_babylon
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                Pursuit of Happiness means the freedom to do anything that you like, as long as it doesn't piss off anyon... : GigiLeCheshire
                • "as long as it doesn't piss off anyone else" ... "as long as it doesnt impede or hurt anyone else" ahh... : radio_babylon
      • Why should people who don't even play the game get to decide who can? It's one thing if you're trying ... : JediDwag
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    Yes, Australians can vote to change very specific and obscure policy points just like Americans can vote ... : CasbahBoy
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      For this particular issue, they need a unanimous decision from all AGs in Australia. There is a single A... : her0d
      • then it seems clear the goal should be to get that guy out of office and hopefully replaced with a less d... : radio_babylon
      • They shouldn't have the authority to tell you what you can and cannot do in the first place, unless it vi... : Marrbe
      • Here here. Totally agree. Atkinson is a douche. : Rhuri
• Yes, boycotts will definitely work. My lifelong boycott of 'Guiding Light' is just now paying off. In fac... : jliverse

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  what could the plan b have been? spending a few months shitting on their game to wholly change it for a s... : MrBig0
  • LMFAO nice, I live in Aus and I would really like a game like that HAHHA. But yeah its complete BS that w... : mahmoodpoya
  • lol. Shoot hugs. I think I would have just said, "To our Australian gamers, we are deeply sorry that yo... : Jobos
  • Can we get optional Tickle Ammunition? : Evil Bones
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  I read it as a trial balloon, but maybe my PR sense is just overly sensitive. As in, suggest-but-don't-su... : garrarg
  • That's basically exactly what I said in the thread above this one :-) : Jobos
• yeah release the game as an expansion for L4D like they should have done in the first place. : spiderdemon007
• Plan B would be reducing the gore, and then toning down violence if that didn't work. people hate cens... : dahanese

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• getuse2it - I wonder what the gamers in Australia think about this? Maybe they'll create an underground n... : jwt220588
• Lol, To be honest, us Aussies are PISSED at the decision..... not just dissapointed........ we're PISS... : Rhuri
• Aussies are not happy. My mates and I are wondering how we are going to purchase an uncut version : ozozozioioio
• Vast majority of them seem pretty pissed, although many probably don't even know. : abrasion

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  Well, their women are still tan and have that sexy twangy accent. So they got that. : Jobos
  • well they can ship me one here, the women are nice, but not nice enough for me to retrieve one myself : MrBig0
• we dont want the german version. we want the full uncut game. : ozozozioioio

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  Yeah, it must've really bugged you that instead of morphine you had to use 'Jet' in Fallout 3. It was suc... : sirmuffinman
  • Actually its Med-X, and yeah, it did suck to have the name changed. Breaks immersion. : IHATEDUST
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  Ouch man. As an Aussie, I take some offence to that. Just because our Government has no idea about ga... : Rhuri
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    Raise up as one and throw your boomerangs at him. : Fighting_Dairy_Farmer
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      Dude, requires us to go looking for him.... That, and not everyone can throw boomerangs. :P : Rhuri
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        What are you talking about, I've seen the movies. You guys are excellent trackers. That little kid with t... : Fighting_Dairy_Farmer
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          Really? Must have missed the training video.... and the hair appointment. Better go get my boomeran... : Rhuri
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            Better got moving on that. Now I need to put on my cowboy hat and ride my horse into town for the high no... : Fighting_Dairy_Farmer
            • And after a long day of hockey i like to go home to my igloo with my dog sled and play with my pet polar ... : madsoups
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      Raise up what? : lechuck59
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        Rise. Thank you grammar Nazi you really added to the proceedings with your post. : Fighting_Dairy_Farmer
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          Yours was a mistake of diction, not grammar. : lechuck59
          • Huh huh, diction.... : hyperion25

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• I love how "realistic" is being applied to a game where you kill zombies. : cerealSAM2
• You deny the realism of the imminent zombie apocalypse? : TheLobotomist

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• genius! : zsolt245
• LOL : DewFuel
• Or they could get all macho and be like "Its not banned! We are refusing to sell L4D2 in Australia cuz th... : Fighting_Dairy_Farmer
• hahha, that would be freakin hilarious : KePoW
• excellent idea :) : niceguynick
• Haha, that would be so completely amazing. : node
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  I'd put the "TF2 sniper face with a big red cross on it" sticker :P : LordHellMaX
  • Even better! : Fighting_Dairy_Farmer
• This is an excellent idea! Someone from Valve's marketing department needs to read this! : datoo

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  If Australia bans it then they can't buy it over Steam either, nor (I think) is Valve allowed to sell it ... : Schnapple
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    But if a friend gift it to you? : Magus_X
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      That's been reported to work as a loophole. Whether or not it's just an oversight on Valve's part or thei... : Schnapple
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        It's not a loophole, or an oversight. The Australian douchebag government forbids unrated games from b... : SeraphielX
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          Right, but Valve might want to close it for other reasons. Let's say L4D2 costs $50 USD in the USA an... : Schnapple
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            Doctrine of First Sale is pretty clear: once I have bought my copy of a game (or movie, or CD, or whateve... : SeraphielX
            • I've missed something - what do you mean "enabled this feature"? Can I sell my purchased-with-Steam games... : Schnapple

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  Just wait a few month and we will ban every Killspiel there is. Than the only way to out-german us will b... : the username you want
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    "Than the only way to out-german us will be by banning powerpuff girls and spongebob..." Well once tha... : Kristian Joensen
    • Ban it all whilst watching Anal Sex Porn? : meatnipples
• hahahahah : Mad Brahmin Disease
• i thought this kind of shit only happened in germany!! : landaishan

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• It was the same with Fallout 3 and the "drugs". : Johnnsen
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  Change Zombies into "Robot mutants", change blood into "green alien slime oil". Done. Worked with C & C i... : Lukiopimp
  • Worked for Samurai Jack! : AxeMan808
• I think that Germany and Australia just shouldn't have games. Period. Death before censorship. : GigiLeCheshire
• A "huge publicity campaign"? Really? ...really? : azshack
• Agree...it's built in advertising. As stated...they have non-gore versions of DoDS and other games for th... : Fuzzdad
• Yeah, let's turn this into a huge conspiracy. It's a slow day anyway. : Mad Brahmin Disease

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• Watch how this Nun reacts when we blow her brains out... http://www.adultswim.com/video/?episodeID=301723... : Fighting_Dairy_Farmer

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  They could go the RTCW route and just make the game appear different in different countries. : Schnapple
  • That's what I'm hoping but with Valve's less-than-ordinary decisions lately you never know. : SabinRaijin
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  The best thing Valve could do for the Aussie gamers is say. "Oh well! Too Bad".. then maybe the aussie's... : ShadowRam
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    I also got that vibe too. It actually seemed implied with the last line he said: "It would be a shame if ... : SabinRaijin
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      I've always wondered what kind of sales Australia generates that more game makers don't just blow them of... : Schnapple
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        According to the CIA factbook, Australia has a population of ~21 million, with a median age of 37. It'... : SeraphielX
        • And people wonder why we pirate. : sirmuffinman
  • Oh yes and I forgot to add that chances are they won't rely on starting a revolution in Oz's game ratings... : SabinRaijin

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• but what about pings when there are no hosted servers over here? I agree that importing a copy is far mor... : Arsenal

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• warez + mail valve a check? :P : syn0r
• yeah release the game as an expansion for L4D like they should have done in the first place : spiderdemon007

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• no nazi zombies? Well fuck that. : Fyunch Click
• German version is still rated 18+ : Johnnsen