Morning Discussion: Cash and the Cobains

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• I'll be in my bu--uuuugh... Nevermind, I'm good. : ejectorpod
• Unf'd : one random winner
• That seems to have worked. : Rooster Cockburn
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  This isn't a troll or an ILTC, but does anyone else not find Megan Fox all that attractive in a lot of th... : Jackass1233
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    I find this is true of most celebrities (and women in general). They look better with little or no mak... : Vincent Grayson
    • Couldn't agree more! : waxthirteen
    • it's weird when you see how much makeup they put on actresses and models to make them look like they're n... : jenisthebest
  • IFAWTP : vx2o
  • Agreed. One example I always remember is Paris Hilton when she got released from jail. I don't find her a... : nakedsavage
  • I agree that Megan Fox looks way better in movies and very prepared situations than she does in regular " : Schnapple
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    i agree with you. : biskits
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      biskits, I am glad we both agree on something for once...! : CrustaR
      • for once?! http://www.shacknews.com/search.x?type=comments&terms=biskits+agree&cs_user=CrustaR&cs_parent... : biskits
  • AGREED. : CrustaR
  • Agreed. The only times I have found her attractive was in the TF movies. Outside, not so much. : shyguy74
  • I think she is just one of those women who don't photograph well but look great in real life/tv/movies. : hussdelrio
  • I've seen her with little or to no make-up on and she looks tons better. But this is the usual red carpet... : Godhatesfatpeople
  • I'd proably find her more attractive if she didn't have some of the ugliest tattoos I've ever seen. : Whistler77
  • Meh... most celeb types don't do anything for me. It would probably be a different story if i met them in... : disembodied potato
  • Agree, these pictures do nothing for me. : valael
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    She looks like plastic to me. Plastic with awful tattoos. I bet she was super hot once before she ... : jason bergman
    • I'm not sure she was ever hot, actually. In a lot of shots it looks like she has bad skin and the tattoos... : brickmatt
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    2/10 : mindshot
    • 8 out of ten bananas. : brickmatt
  • I agree! I've posted this before and been roasted. =( : brickmatt
  • I saw her in person in Toronto yesterday and she looked pretty good (wasn't all dolled up, was in a hallw... : veras
  • she always looks vaguely retarded, but I can get over that. : DonkeyPopsicle
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    I completely agree. I mean, she's hot and all - but there are a metric shitton of hotter chicks in Holly... : Phil
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      But you haven't seen a tight vagina since the Bay of Pigs. : Godhatesfatpeople
      • lol @ Bay of Pigs : Phil
  • that video shoot she did for esquire magazine was the hottest shit ever though : AllYourBase
  • I agree good sir. I find the same true with most women, although occasionally there is one that can pull ... : OverloadUT
  • She still looks great without makeup, find the shots of her in a lake with her tits out. : abrasion
  • she's usually so goddamn plain looking, but i thought she looked pretty hot in those pics : MrBig0
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  omg ellen page <3 : moe6
  • nom nom nom : mmaster_pw
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  I will always love Drew Barrymore : lordlobo
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    Kevin Smith and his friends say she's something of a jerk in person. : Lone Swordsman
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      I'm more apt to believe Kevin Smith is a jerk and that she probably just can't stand him, but it's plausi... : PlanetPerfecto
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        Smith and co. suggest that she has two personalities: the cheerful girl-next-door one she uses to market ... : Lone Swordsman
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          um this is what all women are like. : jane911
          • Not...really. Not that there aren't a lot of those types out there. : Lone Swordsman
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          That's totally plausible and wouldn't surprise me at all. Otoh- from what I've seen of Kevin Smith, while... : PlanetPerfecto
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            OR! I could be YOU that is the jerkface and Kevin and Drew are wonderful people. : CRasterImage
            • That's it buster, you're going down. DOWN TO CHINA TOWN : PlanetPerfecto
        • She's a human being! :O : SenorSpine
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      sup smodcast listener : zakazi
      • Indeed. : Lone Swordsman
      • word. : drucifer
      • sup : disembodied potato
    • She's been a movie star since she was 8. She was in rehab at 13. Despite all this she's been wildly suc... : lordlobo
    • That amazes me, she must have the best PR people and obviously be a great faker because she comes across ... : abrasion
  • she was ruined for me by Tom Green. : kbnerd
  • the only thing i ever loved her in was playboy when she was hot, and 19. now she is super butterfaced. : papaskot

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• Actually that's much better than I expected. I was anticipating a Bionic Commando level bomb : DeBurgo
• I'm hoping to pick it up in a bargain bin. : dmason
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  hard to see how anyone had high hopes for it based on the previews : spiderfill
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    not one mention was made of multiplayer. I couldnt care less for sp. Return to Castle Wolfenstein was me... : cptstern
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      it was memorable to me for SP. but i really couldn't care less about it's MP. : kbnerd
      • ya but MP kept it popular long after people were bored with SP (which was about half way for me) : cptstern
• I never played past the first level, it just does not feel any fun...maybe I should give it another try. : sanchez
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  That's not as terrible as I thought....it still isn't even on Steam, correct? : wretchedradio
  • That kept me from getting the PC version. : steauengeglase
• To be honest they went too far into the stupid occult nazi shit. It didn't look that interesting from th... : deject
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  Not like 1 pirated copy = 1 lost sale or anything, but it almost has 1/3rd (5500+) of the total amount of... : Stage
  • Wow that's terrible. : DogDharma
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  I can't play this til I get rid of the insane mouse lag. : moe6
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    I started playing this at lunch and I just thought it was me. I have a 2000dpi mouse and it feels like i... : melkore
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      Mouse lag and sensitivity are two different things. : socksta
      • True but I've never really ran into this before in a PC game because I usually stray away from console po... : melkore
  • I don't know if this had much to do with it, but I updated the nVidia drivers from 182 to 190 and barely ... : legato17
  • They won't be replacing the input system, so... I guess you won't be playing it :( : SpaecKow
• That brand has just been beaten into the ground. They really need to look elsewhere for game design inspi... : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Is this surprising to anyone? This game had no buzz. It had so little buzz, it was seen as a sign that ... : ThomW
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    I had never even heard of it until the week it came out. : Goncyn
    • i never knew about it until i was at Q-Con and they were talking about it. : kbnerd
    • Same here. I was very surprised by the lack of coverage it received. It looks like it would be decently e... : Lrd_Cujo
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    It also had what appears to be a massive marketing budget, contributing to that sign of suckage : Yanks
    • Massive? I never saw much of anything for it? : Godhatesfatpeople
    • Really? Besides seeing a TV commercial, I didn't even know it was out until the day it was released. : PointlesS76
    • Unless they were placing ads during Daytime Soaps or something I don't recall a single bit of marketing o... : steauengeglase
  • If the sole announcement of a sequel to Return to Castle Wolfenstein isn't a single-handed buzzkiller, I ... : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • I just beat this game last night. I'm still trying to figure out how id letthis game be made. :( I mean,... : warcrow
• I'll pick it up once it's on sale. The screenshots or the previews really didn't make it look like a gam... : cryptical
• If it was on steam I would of bought it, especially if they hyped it a little with a sale. I really liked... : pieman
• If this was on Steam I'd at least take a better look at it, but I haven't stepped in a Best Buy or Gamest... : PointlesS76
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  The game industry is getting tough these days. : CrustaR
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    PC that is : EvilDolemite
    • *PC : CrustaR
• I got it on pc and I like it. MP is a bit weak but SP is good. : te[R]ror
• FPSs are getting boring, Bioshock was the last exciting FPS game that I played. : Ender.Wiggin
• The best I could get anyone to say about this game at QuakeCon was "it's more of the same!" "it's not aw... : wendigo
• I bought this game for the MP and was horribly disappointed. I played the SP and was surprised. It's a ... : valael
• Actually isn't the PC version getting 17% of the sales an improvement over the usual? : Schnapple
• Well, I'll be playing through it this weekend and I hope to enjoy it. http://www.shackpics.com/viewer.x?... : RomSteady
• They didn't promote it at all and they didn't sell it on Steam. I'm surprised they sold that many. : Dynotaku
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  100k units in 5 days isn't thaaaaaat bad. And that does not include digital distribution either (was it ... : dedgecko
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    Additionally - this is the result of Activision trying to exploit an IP for all it's worth, when who was ... : dedgecko
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      http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20614604 : Cygnus X-1
      • that's all well and fair - but when Activision's CEO goes on about exploiting an IP till there's nothing ... : dedgecko
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    -1 for reading comprehension. : DrillBit
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      "How poorly did Wolfenstein fare? According to NPD numbers obtained by GameSpot, the 360 version sold jus : dedgecko
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        Yes, but it sounds like you may have missed the OP's point, which is that the PC sales were disappointing... : Bold
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          The ratio doesn't seem that far off from other games though? : SenorSpine
          • It isn't, and it probably would have done as well as that again online if it was available on Steam, Dire... : SpaecKow
• the only thing i paid attention to for this game was the constant commercials on hulu. after the 1000th ... : harold.johnson
• Called it (not exactly difficult to predict though)! http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20691902#itemanc... : GreatGooglyMoogly
• Every old RTCW / ET player I talked to said the MP was garbage. Not surprising after I read ThreeWave le... : gnomish
• it came out? : marmite
• I honestly didn't even know it existed until I saw it at QuakeCon, and that was 5 days before release. Th... : OverloadUT

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  burnout, halo 3, street fighter 4, rock band, bomberman live : EvilDolemite
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    what ED said, plus Batfield Fordy-Tree. Maybe Madden too. : Dave-A
    • I used to play Lumines or Geometry Wars 2 a lot in the office because I could hold a meeting at the same ... : Dave-A
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      Don't listen to him. 1943 is online only : SlingBlaze
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        Guess I didn't read the OP very well Slingblaze. I was just thinking of what have on ours. : Dave-A
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          K, then listen to him for the other stuff. : SlingBlaze
          • Stop referring to me in the 3rd person SlingBlaze it's freaking me out D: : Dave-A
  • Castle crshs and worms for sure : papaskot
• SF4 : Cheeziologist
• fifa, street fighter 4, super street fighter 2 hd remix, king of fighters 2, blazblue : JINKY
• Call of Duty 4, Earth Defense Force, Halo 3 : ThomW
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  EDF. Toss the rest in the trash. : ieGod
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    ^^^^^^^^^^ : cookblaze
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      ?????? What is EDF? : Lightzout
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        Earth Defense Forces : bawbeh
        • or Environmental Defense Fund : bawbeh
      • Eunuch Doughnut Force : deviantpaul
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        Ebola in Disc Form : pancake humper
        • EDF is complete shit : pancake humper
      • Euthanizing Dynamic Flatulence : one random winner
      • Energetic Dick Faces. : moe6
      • Ebullient Diarrhetic Feces. : Lone Swordsman
      • Entertaining Drip Faucets : chungathebunga
      • Eternal Death Faggots : prime8
      • overrated game : spiderfill
      • Extreme Dick Fencing : boredguy
      • Ears for Deaf Frenchmen : Navy Spitfire
      • Eat Donuts, Fatty! : uglysad
      • Everyone Did Finish : Mad Brahmin Disease
      • Eskimo Dung Fetish : agentlead
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    I really don't get the love for this game. It's kind of fun at first but it gets old really fast. : razlebol
    • I gamefly'd it for a day. hated it. return. Love gamefly. : edgewise
    • You can only play this game multiplayer. If you don't, then you're wasting your time. : ieGod
    • I've read other posts saying it's trash single player but gold co-op. Sounds interesting. : DinK
  • Is this a Red Faction post or are you really talking about this: http://www.earthdefenseforce.net : fvariance
  • nope, it was terrible : Halen
• Thanks everyone. It will probably be hard to make these people play anything else than NHL, but I'll try. : Geoffrois
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  I want to work somewhere where I can hook up a 360! : cookblaze
  • Me too, very jealous, especially since most of my workplace is filled with people about to retire or Twil... : one random winner
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  Worms 2 (download arcade) : MaverickOrig
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    I'd enjoy throwing grenades and bazookas at coworkers. : MaverickOrig
    • At a summer job I had we would play Worms on a lan every lunch break. It was awesome. : Geoffrois
  • this is probably the best answer. : datoo
  • This and Bomberman, you need no other games. : Zek
• Street Fighter motherfucking 4 : dravalen
• NBA Street - Homecourt Top Spin Tennis / Virtua Tennis 2 Fusion Frenzy Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe ... : jvox
• Castle Crashers, Scene It, sports games (Tiger Woods!!!) : kevp
• Burger Kings Big Bumpin' : bosst0ne
• Castle Crushers : PointlesS76
• SF4, Bomberman Live, Castle Crashers, Bionic Commando (the XBL one), Scene It. : bcyde
• geometry wars : burningpantsman
• call of duty 2 ( 4 is pretty good too I suppose :D ) : homeboyJim
• Fight Night Round 4 : paulatreus
• virtua tennis 2009 : Mansmells

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  walmart is probably the cheapest for b&m. : DogDharma
  • $10 if your store carries this brand. http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5855137 : Prozium
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  you really need monster cable. spend at LEAST $85 dollars. : Downforce
  • LOL'D : nevlos
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  I think Microcenter has them cheap (at least in comparison to BB or Radio Shack). : one random winner
  • $20, not what I would call a deal, but better than BB http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.p... : one random winner
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  If you can wait you can order from monoprice or amazon for sub-$5 HDMI cables : melkore
  • Seriously this ^^^ Tough it out for a few days with AV, and get HDMI cables from Monoprice. : Head Rush
• Fry's usually have a stack of them for 6 bucks : Fredrik S
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  new 360 Elite's don't come with either anymore. : manlyman
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    New elites must still come with component cables, don't they? : Milleh
    • Yeah, not HDMI. : manlyman
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      No, just composite. : Carnivac
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        Seriously? So niether the PS3 or the new Elite bundle are hd ready out of the box? Holy shit that's fucki... : Milleh
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          you cant expect them to bundle in Hdmi when only a % of households have hdtvs. if you have a tv you have ... : Iwannaacura
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            I would argue that a very large % of households purchasing either a PS3 or an elite 360 have at least one... : Milleh
            • You would be totally wrong. It's shockingly disheartening. : dopefish
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            The pro and older elite models of the 360 came with a combo component/composite AV cable so they had both... : Prozium
            • This is how it should be, give an SD option and an HD option. : Milleh
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          No, not seriously. The Elite comes with a single cable that has component and composite and L and R audio... : Rooster Cockburn
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            It used to, but no longer. http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20883716#itemanchor_20883716 : DinK
            • Damn, I thought they were being cheap by dropping the HDMI cable. But dropping component is just fucked u... : Rooster Cockburn
        • No, it's a smart business move for the corporations, but not necessarily for the customers. Think about i : Bold
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        according to wikipedia it's a hybrid component/composite. : FrayLo
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          The wiki isn't distinguishing between the old and new elite packages. The new ones only have composite ca... : Prozium
          • What the shit are Sony and MS thinking!??????? Stupid. : FrayLo
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      Nope, just composite like the ps3. : DogDharma
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        Holy shit. Confirmed: http://www.xbox.com/en-US/hardware/compare101.htm That is fucking insane. : DinK
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          So only the 60gb 360 comes with component now. Stupid. : ant_hillbilly
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            I thought the 60gb was being priced to move and phase out by Xmas? : dedgecko
            • Yep. The reason the component is still there is because all the ones for sale were probably already manu... : DinK
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  Welcome to the Sony, leave your logic at the door please kthnx. : Milleh
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    Microsoft just did the same thing though with their latest price reduction though didn't they? I suppo... : dedgecko
    • Yea, I didn't know that until now. Very very stupid move, ugh. : Milleh
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      It's a total scumbag move on both their parts, everybody charges a ridiculous markup on component cables ... : Zek
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        Bullshit - no one is forcing them to be uneducated and allow themselves to be pressured into a packaged d... : dedgecko
        • I don't think one side not being "forced" into it doesn't make the other side automatically not scummy. : DinK
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        Even if the average customer buys a $50 Monster Cable HDMI cable, they're still ahead of the game due to ... : Bold
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          I don't think that counts as being ahead of the game, since the entire game dropped by $100 too. : DinK
          • nah, lets go back a few years to when the PS3 was $599. Now they're ahead of the game $250!! : Prozium
          • It depends on your POV, I guess. Microsoft's claim was something like, "We're no longer bundling extra ca... : Bold
    • Retail store has to make money some how. : dmason
  • look how silly you look now. :P : Ellissd
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  Slickdeals link for 2-pack 10ft HDMI cable for $5.99 shipped. Bought me these last night. :) : TrptJim
  • Oops, link: http://forums.slickdeals.net/showthread.php?t=1547977 : TrptJim
• I got 3 TOSLink 6ft cables, and 1 12 ft usb-usb mini cable from monoprice.com shipped overnight for 12 bu... : mankeroo
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  Both Sony and MS love their money hats. It benefits them and retailers. : Link.
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    This. The retailers LOVE the packages without the cables because the store markup on cables is ridiculou... : qsylvr
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      Whose fault is that? Consumers are stupid, which is a proven fact. : dedgecko
      • Indeed : Milleh
• Every console is like this now. The only exception was the premium 360 bundle, but I hear they quit inclu... : jingletard
• Rumor has it they'll only be including an RF modulator after Christmas. : ChibiJosh
• So does the 360 now. : abrasion
• Order a cheap cable from monoprice , go buy a cable from walmart. Return it when the other cable comes in... : theargent
• Dont buy monster cables or anything like that. www.monoprice.com. Grab yourself a HDMI 1.3a cable, and ha... : w1ldcat
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  Which piece of AV equipment ever does? : zeke
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    I bought a $60 RCA upscaling DVD player 3 years ago that came with a 6ft HDMI cable. : Prozium
    • lucky bastard! :) : zeke
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  You can use PS2 component cables if you happen to have some. : Frank_Mackey
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    What I did until I broke down and got another pair. Plus swapping them to play either can't be good. : My Documents
    • Probably what I'll do if I get a PS3 for my birthday till I order an HDMI cable, highly unlikely that my ... : one random winner
• monoprice, have gotten 2 6-ft HDMI cables from them now, about $6 each, will buy from them again if neede... : TPSReport
• Also this doesn't really matter because you should always have some cheap $5 HDMI cables lying around. No... : Link.
• Monoprice. You people should know this already. Just wait a few days for your order to arrive or if yo... : ieGod
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  Buy this HDMI cable from Monoprice. http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=1024... : irrerno
  • that place has too many cables. I just bought 2 of these on Tuesday, but looks like they have even cheape... : edgewise
• Coworker just bought a printer and it did not come with a USB cable. : dognose
• monoprice.com : CyCo_PL
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  It's because they (and microsoft) have done their research. The average person who buys a console also ge... : thecray
  • Good point, I never even thought of that. : abrasion

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  Wait, now we have 2 hon threads. : c0bra
  • nope, that would be 3 threadsnow : gebz
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  any beta invites floating around for little old me? : packav
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    SM me : RogerDandy
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      got it! thanks gnomie. : packav
      • Woot!! : RogerDandy
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  WTF is juking : jimmy-buffett
  • Xanthos just juked multisync to start this other HoN chatty : Audhuml4
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    Escaping from an enemy who is chasing you by exploiting terrain navigation. : c0bra
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      I've noticed that I lose visibility on enemies when the elevation changes, not so much when they run into... : jimmy-buffett
      • You have to run into the RIGHT trees. : c0bra
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      this is most of it. exploit terrain, use predictable behaviors to cause them to screw up. If pyromancer i... : Xanthos
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        It's great when you juke and end up killing someone and escaping. : c0bra
        • i've got a friend (mcknucks) who constantly amazes me. He's not the greatest player in general, but he ju... : Xanthos
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  XP/GOLD MAXIMIZATION - That took a little while: Maximizing xp and gold gain is probably the singl... : Xanthos
  • I didn't really finish and there is a hell of a lot more, so i'll touch on the subjects and you guys can ... : Xanthos
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    I think part of the problem of getting people to understand how to increase exp/min and gold/min is that ... : Jimb0v2
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      as a noob most people are complacent with you just surviving and not dying. Which is more than enough ... : c0bra
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        I completely agree, but it does sometimes make it hard to to transition to real play. I think this is ... : Jimb0v2
        • You can't learn everything at once, it's best to develop the intuition about what you can and can't survi... : Zek
    • I just want to thank and commend Jimb0v for helping me, actually teaching me, and not turning me into a s : m0rfus
  • Ok your first thing should be your intial roll out. They give 603 for a reason (sd ap) 2 crowns, 1 totem ... : Iwannaacura
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    ohshit forgot appendix A) Neutral creeps - doublestacking and triplestacking is a great way to make use o... : Xanthos
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      diaf mcpants. level 6 with 1300 gold by 5:12 last night. : Jimb0v2
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        i've played with you once and you certainly did not do it that well that game. : Xanthos
        • Remember the law of large numbers! : Jimb0v2
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          There is only one hero that can nuetral creep well imo without lagging and that is Ophelia. Tempest cant ... : sesmaster
          • Puzzlebox is a good item (underrated too) : kainen1
          • Ophelia is good. Lego is good, you just have to spend your money on regen once you get it and then you ca... : Xanthos
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            Just have to utilize courier. Start with courier, runes of blight and a minor totem. Check the hard c... : Jimb0v2
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              jimb0v please help me work on my neutraling. Last night I had my best neutraling game with lego on hellb... : kgargs
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                Why aren't you double stacking the easy camp to start? : kainen1
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                  b'c i kill them before the respawn? Why doublestack? These are things I don't know the cost/benefit. ... : kgargs
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                    well just wait until :53 and then pull them out of their spawn, go back and take the double stack out. J... : kainen1
                    • thanks man, will do. OMW to supreme d0nkin. : kgargs
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                All camps spawn at 0:30, yes. : c0bra
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                  so it goes at :30 and then again at 1:00 ? or 2:00? : kgargs
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                    starts at :30 and then on every minute mark. If the creeps are out of their spot they stack at that min... : kainen1
                    • That's why I was thrown off. I killed the easy camp before the minute mark and nothing spawned and i was... : kgargs
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            Lego will have to stop to heal only if someone doesn't buy him a courier. : c0bra
            • Oh jimbo beat me to it. : c0bra
          • wrong you forgot slither! : Iwannaacura
          • In HoN lycan is a better chen than chen thanks to his rediculous ult affecting all his creeps. : Cliffzorz
    • Shouldnt there be an Appendix B explaining double/triplestacking? : Cliffzorz
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  Does your guide include wtf a 'carry' is? : asylumn
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    A carry is a hero that mostly starts off weak but scales like mad as it gains levels and items. They can ... : [7]kami
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      swiftblade isn't weak to start : c0bra
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        all AGI heroes are weak to start....it's just his blade fury does respectable DPS early is all you're mis... : kainen1
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          Which makes him not weak. : c0bra
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            No it pretty much makes him pretty weak still, and you have to work to get your last hits in a lane again... : kainen1
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              I guess. I still say that the ability to get first blood fairly easily takes away quite a bit of weakness... : c0bra
              • I agree with c0bra. He's not weak to start because his overall dps and laneability is quite strong even a... : Lexicon_Leidun
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        he's not weak to start because he's not a powerhouse superlategame. Generally the more skills they hav... : Xanthos
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          counterattack is crap, i never get it. blade+crit or stats imo : kpxkrnjc
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            counterattack is good for early game, but most people get blade+crit and by the time they end up getting ... : Xanthos
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              it only procs off of melee attacks, so if you're getting harassed by a melee char something is wrong. it'... : kpxkrnjc
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                healing ward was clutch, thats why jugg was so fucking good in DOTA. i still think swiftblades is a piece... : Xanthos
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                  I think he's a strong hero, but the healing ward swap for counter attack skill was a nerf. Hate that t... : kainen1
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                    it is an overstatement, but for a reason. His crit is only the highest because of the limited selection o... : Xanthos
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                      No he's definitely not on par with him, but I think if played right he's buff. I'm starting to really ge... : kainen1
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                        its a good idea as it helps shore up one of his weak spots (physical attacks) until he gets wingbow, plus... : Xanthos
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                            The damage avoidance from wingbow is far greater than the damage reduction from breastplate. 15 armor <> ... : Xanthos
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                              Well no doubt about it and generally it is - it's a better item for agility heroes too - it's just that h... : kainen1
                              • No I completely agree about the team benefits and I'd be interested to see how this panned out because of... : Xanthos
                    • wtb phantom assassin muhahaha : kpxkrnjc
              • and melee heroes should be smart enough to know getting into swiftblade spin range is a risky proposition... : Psigun
    • haha, that's kind of a bad example as swiftblade has an awesome nuke and an awesome ult to compliment his... : miasma(&)
    • DIRECT ME TO THE WEAK! >:( : r3dn3ck
  • a carry is a hero (usually one with a passive damage ability) that with items and levels gets a very stro... : kpxkrnjc
  • comment search for this question. it comes up twice a week. : Xanthos
  • a hero that has abilities that scale to a monsterly level late game. Mostly agility heroes, with a full ... : kainen1
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  OK it's confirmed. All Swiftblade builds *should* include Shieldbreaker after Steamboots. This is now a... : kainen1
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    told you H'n'S was shitty for him! : Xanthos
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      it's not shitty it's just kind of a fall back. If there's another more capable carry on the team it stil... : kainen1
      • I usually go wingbow + slash + dem breastplate for maximum atk speed : r3dn3ck
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    I like my Juggernaut build best. I'm pretty sure Omnislash mechanics remain the same so it works out. ... : kpxkrnjc
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      What do you mean Omnislash mechanics remain the same? And there's nothing wrong with Elder Parasite on... : kainen1
      • In DOTA you get additional omnislash attacks at certain "breakpoints" of increased attack speed. : kpxkrnjc
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  i watched a nome video where right away (hellbourne/top) he pulled neutrals to their creep wave as his la... : Audhuml4
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    This is a very common technique called pulling the lane. You basically always do it when you have a babys... : miasma(&)
    • you can also have a jungler pull the lane for you. : miasma(&)
    • i've gotten better at controlling clash spots with blocking / careful last hitting, and more recently wit... : Audhuml4
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  QUESTION: what's a good Slither build? : [7]kami
  • best slither build is not to take him :D : r0cky143
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    im' not as big a fan of Slither as I was in DOTA mostly because you can't get lifesteal on him anymore be... : Xanthos
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      I was just testing out the different lifesteal helms in the game. And I was watching my health regen on ... : JuffoWup
      • the sky is the limit for mixing orbs or 'attack modifiers' in HoN where in DOTA it's kinda like choose on... : kainen1
  • Ult + poison then run away = easy kill :D : Reeves
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  McPants since you are in the teacher mood, can you do me a favor and tell our noob players the role of th... : sesmaster
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    ^^ Pretty much this. Playing a tank/initiator is an exercise in trust. You have to get your basic tank it... : Xanthos
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      And it's not just tanks that initiate. It's important to understand that if your hero is the strongest in... : Lexicon_Leidun
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        Also there are other heroes who can split-initiate, like Devourer can hook a squishy caster out of a team... : c0bra
        • or Andromeda's ult is perfect for this. Ideally you want to get assassin's shroud or something if you're ... : Xanthos
    • this makes me feel better. I always felt at a loss playing tank. When I ran it felt wrong and inneffectiv... : zakazi
    • I don't say many nice things about McPants but I will say this: he's not afraid to commit. There are a f... : kgargs
  • DrFlammable's electrician is the worst.initiator.ever. : kgargs
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  Any recommendations for the Puppet Master? I was having fun with him last night (first time HoN/Dota p... : dedgecko
  • His first skill is for holding people down while you beat on them. Second one can be used the same way, b... : Xanthos
  • i either see PM as a forgettable caster/soft-disabler or a monster carry. i can't play him, but i know ot... : Audhuml4
  • Lots of ways to play him, he's really flexible. You can go ultra disable and build for a Kulddra - givi... : kainen1
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  i think i'm going to play a lot less until they start adding the changes in 6.6x, more items, and more he... : DrFlammable
  • yeah i agree. i dont' know how you guys played so much, i play 1 game for every 4 you all do and i'm plen... : Xanthos
  • They're doing it, just give it time. : c0bra
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    I dunno, until better PC games come out it's the best thing going on the PC at least. And besides flamm... : kainen1
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      I've got a renewed interest man. It's weird. I backed off for a couple of weeks and now I'm pretty much... : kgargs
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        well I talk all big but I still play the game like crackbeat. I mean, I'll play other games more and les... : kainen1
        • hah hah. I'm lovin it. I actually been doin AP games with Lego and working on my neutraling. My psr is... : kgargs
  • reptile intothe fray and I had a 3v3 game that showed how 3v3 and 5v5 mechanics are very different. they ... : Juno
  • CM fixes all of this : Foxhawk
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  Is there a resource that explains the various status effects (dots?)? : dedgecko
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    besides the forum, : sesmaster
    • So there isn't a concentrated source of information ?- the forums are a mess of hero guides and tips on h... : dedgecko
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    dunno about DOTS but there's a wiki that will help you (front page has all heroes, items, etc). And thi... : kainen1
    • yea - I think this is what I was looking for (didn't know what the terminology would be). : dedgecko
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  I'd like to see items that effect te cooldown on your spells. That would be cool. : re-verse
  • restoration stone (iirc) resets the cooldown of all your abilities. : Juno
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    aghanims/staff of the master used to do this for some heroes ults. most of the heroes still aren't in tho... : Xanthos
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      6.60 makes Aghanim's different for tons of new capability and all heroes. Would be interesting to see th : kainen1
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        no no no. Magmus doesn't need a cooldown reduction and an extra pulse of his ult. If they did that, I'd... : JuffoWup
        • it's fine. you could get plenty of other items for magmus instead of staff of the master. which gives int... : DrFlammable
      • would love to see windrunner in HoN : Foxhawk

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• Jesus sanchez let other people play. : Whistler77
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  Khan you suck! : Snuffles-
  • mother fucka you haven't played once, you need to pop some pep-pills and some coffee so you can play with... : Dschinghis Khan
  • he really does. : Arctic Fox
  • See, even they guys that don't play with us know this. : .Jayson
• Jebus sanchez! : Alco23
• I think sanchez is training to be the next DoD:S champion? : cjcharv
• The achievements only count after five drinks. So technically, sanchez was the worst player. : gnomish
• i was really terrible this week. i didn't even get my award for pistol =-( next week i will try to bring ... : kbnerd
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  Also, there needs to be some awards for fucking yelling at people. : gnomish
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    You think we need to encourage MORE yelling? lol : Arctic Fox
    • hahahah : zakazi
    • We do need more Anzio though. I was perturbed that we only got to play for a few minutes on the best map ... : kbnerd
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      Just more drinking. By the time I left Duffman wasn't making any sense. : goatjc
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        I had a headache this morning : .frame
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          I'm still waiting for a lice-finding update from lightzout. And maybe a bonus breakdown of what the fu... : gnomish
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            haha something about someone on the other side of the world catching his trout? : .frame
            • apparently New Zealand is famous for trout but someone is stealing them? i'm not really sure. : kbnerd
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        halfway through the hill map he lost all coherency : kbnerd
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          His Cliffzorz impersonations were getting better and better :P : Alco23
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            ahhh ohhhhhh noooooooo : .frame
            • ARGHOHIOBOJJOOOOOOOOO FUCK FUCKF UCKKKKKJOIOJOJOOOOIIIIEEEEEEEOOO : Cliffzorz
      • like he ever does :P : .Jayson
      • No, I've already broken my desk while drunk from this stuff, if i drink any more I might break the comput... : Cliffzorz
• Good god! : zakazi
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  21. Puffin' on the Stove Pipe Player.frame (36 kills with the Panzerschreck) 27. Popcorn maker Playe... : .frame
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    fear my pschreck skills! http://dr-alco.com/hlstats.php?mode=weaponinfo&weapon=pschreck&game=dods : .frame
    • If I wasn't angling for the other achievements you'd have some fierce competition from me on that list. I... : Arctic Fox
• I had 9 punch kills, all of them on sanchez, he ain't that fuckin good. : Dschinghis Khan
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  I bow down before you Arctic Fox. You bumped me from #2. yousunuvabeechi'magonnagetyounexttimeiwoul : .Jayson
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    I was on fire with the sniper last night, allowed me to make up the lead you got over me last week. Also,... : Arctic Fox
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      and the gap between us and Sanchez is sickening! : .Jayson
      • i will be top 10 one day. : kbnerd
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  somehow i'm ranked 20th, i don't know how, also my favorite map is ANZIO! : vov1n
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    Anzio's one of the better stock maps IMO. People obviously agree, because it keeps winning votes on the s... : Arctic Fox
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      yeah but i can only nominate it so many times!!! also, you need to ditch the recently played malarky bec... : kbnerd
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        heh, mostly, the map votes that show up are compiled by an admin. We've got a pretty good sense of what * : Arctic Fox
        • i was really pissed when people when to play tf2 when we were stuck on the hallowed ground of Anzio. i co... : kbnerd
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          I'll be making a map for duffman, it include a bridge and a church : vov1n
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            make sure to include wide open spaces and have the class selection limited to sniper on one side and supp... : kbnerd
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              I'm thinking a really tall church down the Allied end, with a single, loooooooong bridge heading straight... : Arctic Fox
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                No no, make the Axis only spawn with the bazooka and make the top of the church tower blown off so the on... : ArcKnight
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                  I reckon I'd be better at that than the c96 ;) Once you get your aim in, you can nail long-range hits ... : Arctic Fox
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                    I think we're working on different definitions of 'long bridge' here. I'm thinking like the length from t... : ArcKnight
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                      I think you didn't see what I was like when I used to play only rocket :) : Arctic Fox
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                        Camping a corner waiting for someone to come around is a little different than what we're talking about ... : ArcKnight
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                          How dare you besmirch my good name sir! No, I'm talking about ringing the bell on dod_churchyard from... : Arctic Fox
                          • psh the c96 is a laser you just want to make it unbalanced against the allies you nazi freak >:( : ArcKnight
  • 11th, i'll take it! : Dschinghis Khan
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  I will try to match Sanchez next time, I can't do it when I can't get on the server unti an hour later be... : ArcKnight
  • yeah i logged in 15 min early because i figured it'd be pretty full : vov1n

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• Also lol that they broadcast the Gillette Fusion Gamer commercial in the first ad break. : ThrillKill
• NO SPOILERS i want to watch it tonight, but i am very intrigued : Chandler55
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  how so? he's not explaining how he did it? use spoiler tags! : edgewise
  • deep maths : bipolar
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  Well for the first 55 mins he went on a long rant about predicting numbers statistically... "refining" th : ThrillKill
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    TLDR: How do you think he did it? That's rhetorical, it really is the answer though, if you think h : losimagic
    • Please nuke : losimagic
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      I'm not even following what this is about but the kind of "the answer is.... whatever you dream it to be!... : DinK
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        Derren Brown's appeal is that he's generally bullshit free.. he does not claim to perform magic, and he i... : ThrillKill
        • Yeah, he's usually open but usually the explanation is more fun than the trick itself. That he didn't giv... : flooq
        • He only makes you think that he is explaining them. Most of the time he is actually just performing magic... : spdon
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          You *think* he's bullshit free. His explanations are bullshit too, just a type of bullshit that seems ju : bipolar
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            In short, the trick isn't what he does first -- the trick is that he gets everyone to believe his 'explan... : bipolar
            • yeah. But my whole point is that this "explanation" is pretty bad by his standards. : ThrillKill
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      Well someone else suggested on here that it was probably that the actual lottery broadcast is delayed, an : ThrillKill
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        it's a con artist trick commonly referred to as the wire : Cheeziologist
        • Also a main plot device in one of my favourite movies, The Sting. : thecray
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        It's going to be something anticlimactic like that, and the fun is in wanting to believe it's something c... : rock elf
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          my favourite ever trick of his was when he played 12 of the best chess players at once and beat 11 of the... : disembodied potato
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            What did he do? Play them against each other by proxy? : Mantle
            • pretty much, he organised them in order of world ranking and remembered the appropriate players moves aga... : disembodied potato
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          "We're far too savvy for that now" Hahaha! : uncleanmonkey
          • You sound like one of those skeptical elitists! : DinK
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        see what i dont get is if it was something as stupid and lame as that, why even tell everyone? why not ju... : ninjase
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          Because that's what pretty much every magician (or other variety of trickster) has ever done? Like, show... : DinK
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            but only if the trick actually is interesting, if its just "hey guys it was delayed lols" then that isnt ... : ninjase
            • Probably a bad example. Most of the ways to know a number beforehand are probably pretty simple and bori... : DinK
    • magic, probably : bipolar
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    • The only trick was the misdirection. The misdirection was all the bullshit about people guessing the lott... : marmite
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    So do we actually think he rigged the lottery? If so, that's fucking awesome. Half a cool trick in its s : -JLN-
    • It was camera trickery. There's about a 3 second shot where the frame froze, the left ball suddenly was : bipolar
    • I'm pretty sure "rigging the lottery" is pretty fucking illegal. : skinlab133
• My money is on split-screen. : briandubau
• I've liked some of the stuff he's done in the past but tonight was super weak. After watching it I felt l... : Guybrushed
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  LOL. REALLY?!?!?!?! : Mr. Goodwrench
  • Look how smart and smug you are. Nobody here thinks it's magic, the show tonight was about explaining ... : ThrillKill
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  I don't think this is over yet. I think at the end of all of his Event shows, there might be some sort of : trelain
  • Also, at least the 24 people weren't stooges, even if that was a completely stupid and fabricated solutio... : trelain
  • he always does something a little further than even his explanations reveal.. I expect there's more to th... : ThrillKill
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  This is still my favourite thing of his http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1022429/derren_brown_person_swa... : marmite
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    haha I love this too. the best part is they're carrying a picture of him : AllYourBase
    • i think thats part of the trick, your brain thinks "hey wasnt I talking to a guy with a goatee...no that ... : Chandler55
• HEY GUYS DID YOU HEAR THAT DAVID BLAINE CAN ACTUALLY LEVITATE COS HE IS LIKE TAPPING INTO INDIAN SPIRITUA... : spdon

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  let's look at gh5 and then the beatles RB and laugh, and laugh. and then cry :( : EvilDolemite
  • Oh definitely. There's no question as to the winner there. : ateam311
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  I've never seen [sic] used so much on a single quote ever. : Haxim
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    Hahaha : magistersmax
    • She added: "This trust are my employees, but whatthey [sic] are tryong [sic] to do is sickening, and they : umegastar
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  lol. "how can we 'respectfully' cash in on kurt cobain's likeness?" : anthonybean
  • Pretty much. Although, I would think Love would be more exploitative of Cobain simply because she's a gre... : jingletard
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    "how can we 'respectfully' cash in on John Lennon's likeness?" see what I did there? : Schnapple
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      except in your example, that was actually accomplished : EvilDolemite
      • The implication was that you can't respectfully cash-in. : nudel
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        Kids today don't listen to the radio. They don't watch MTV (and even if they did they wouldn't see music ... : Schnapple
        • kids today : DonkeyPopsicle
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          Beatles: Rock Band is pretty genius in that it's going to boost (as much as possible) the popularity of t... : dirge23
          • I'm curious if this whole thing with how the Beatles were portrayed versus how Kurt Cobain was portrayed ... : Schnapple
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          surely none of the other guitar hero games ever had unlockable, playable stars. And whereas Harmoni : brainchild420
          • have you actually played both franchises? the GH series is way more crass, especially compared to the rid... : dirge23
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            silent prophet below says GH:Metallica had those guys playable http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20880... : Schnapple
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              gh3 had slash and tom morello playable, and no one cried. gh4 had Billy Corgan, Hayley Williams, Ozzy Os... : brainchild420
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                What he means by retarded mii avatars is that you can play as your Xbox live avatar in GH5, not just a cu... : Nali4Freedom
                • so when RB3 comes out with this feature, will it cease to be retarded... like so many other things that h... : brainchild420
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                What's so hard to understand? The rock stars who are alive clearly allowed for this to happen where as t... : choppp
                • yes but you are missing the point. the disrespect was done by their loved ones who were given legal conse... : brainchild420
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          It's true. I hate music. : d fluke
          • So does Neversoft. : d fluke
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      Yeah, but Lennon isn't hopping around singing Living on a Prayer. : jingletard
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        I'm trying to figure out what is so bad about a pixel avatar who is doing animations to other songs. : Chod
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          Imagine if I digitized you and put you in a video game, only you were sucking someone's cock. What's t... : Schnapple
          • If I'm dead I sure wouldn't care. And the parties involved most likely didn't read their contracts very w... : Chod
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            singing Bon Jovi is disrespectful? Seriously people, this is so mild that the uproar around it is just ... : DonkeyPopsicle
            • This particular fight is silly, but the concept behind is something worth recognising imo, especially giv... : 60days
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          What if there was Political Speech Hero and it let you play as Ronald Reagan reading Stalin and Hitler's ... : nudel
          • BLOOD ALONE MOVES THE WHEELS OF HISTORY : dirge23
          • That would be beyond awesome. Dammit someone needs to make this game now. Your Kennedy got a double P... : steauengeglase
        • It's disrespectful, plain and simple. Personally, this is right up there with Fred Astaire. : K1Bond007
        • If someone's personality can just be tossed out the window and they are suddenly portrayed to a whole new... : Drewus
      • Lennon was a pompous putz. : schwinky
• i think it's the best possible use of cobain ever : Slowtreme
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  Why? Seriously, what fucking legacy can you tarnish if you were a stoned junkie who shot hhimself at th... : Lightzout
  • It's in bad taste, but I don't know if that is grounds for a lawsuit. : jingletard
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    being a stoned junkie shouldn't disqualify you from rock greatness because almost every single brilliant ... : EvilDolemite
    • Yep. : Zek
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      hendrix was an excellent musician of that there's no doubt, but his life was pretty uninspiring in my opi... : xxiv
      • about as uninspiring as say... kurt cobain? : brainchild420
      • He was inspiring enough that The Beatles told everyone "man, you gotta go see this guy". : Ride-My-Rocket
      • lol, get out of here. : Godhatesfatpeople
    • Pretty much. <Insert Bill Hicks drugs & music clip here> : Godhatesfatpeople
    • Cobain a rock greatness? seriously? his shit was medicore at best, and the only reason he's popular was b... : ShadowRam
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    Couldn't "stoned junkie" be derisively applied to a lot of the people on this board? And why is the fa... : Schnapple
    • I don't think suicide is insult-worthy but it certainly doesn't raise my opinion of anybody. It's pretty... : kek
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      i really dont think a lot of us are stoned junkies : dantastic
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        I see a number of people on here discussing marijuana. Usually under the code smoke. If I were so incline : Schnapple
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          oh jezzz its like 3 or 4 people that talk about that, they just do it frequently so it seems like a lot o... : DogDharma
          • shitloads of shackers smoke marijuana, probably a lot more than you realize : EvilDolemite
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          just so you know, people tell me my opinion is invalid ALL THE TIME because i smoke pot. the shack is suc... : brainchild420
          • Hey if you want some real fun, try to defend Michael Moore in a conversation. The results are... well the... : Schnapple
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            It's more about your posts then then weed. But when combined ya... : Phreakin
            • yeah thats... hardly ever the case. : brainchild420
        • hahahahhahahah, hippy : -=kodiak=-
        • Your definition of "junkie" needs some work, you dictionary rebel. : underground banana plantation
      • Denial is the first sign... : Cihte
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      you are fucking out of your mind if you think people that smoke pot are junkies : moshman
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        I was being facetious - see my post above : Schnapple
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          you still make no distinction between people that smoke weed, which is pretty much totally harmless, and ... : moshman
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            That was my point - you can easily lump all drug users together if you have an agenda to make. Also - ... : Schnapple
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              dunno, but they usually just resort to doing lots of heroin :) sorry, I'm tired and missed you point : moshman
              • It's all good : Schnapple
  • as opposed to dying fat and neglected of an overdose in a bathroom : Majuju
  • Actually, I think it had the opposite effect as for as his legacy goes for better or for worse. : hatelull
  • his legacy as a talented musician and artist. his personal problems are tangential to that. : dirge23
  • his mental suffering was similar to lots of great musicians of the 20th century. unless you're living in ... : thebigbeefsandwich
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    How do you feel about Jimmy Hendrix? : WhatIsThisFor
    • Jimi rather : WhatIsThisFor
    • Or the other 500 rock legends that have made their way through drugs. Some of whom survived and others wh... : Drewus
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    this same thread happens every time someone mentions kurt cobain. oh man he killed himself! oh man his ... : FrayLo
    • It's actually pretty sad when you hear the whole story and realise that Teen Spirit broke them out of bei... : Drewus
  • Read the quote section http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001052/bio Read the suicide note. http://en.wikiped... : abrasion
  • Okay, lets replace Cobain with Cash. What now? : Drewus
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  They didn't "throw him" in there, Dave and Krist, Courtney, and the company managing Nirvana's assets all... : Deathlove
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    well that's certainly Activision's side of the story. but these people all seem surprised at how the game... : dirge23
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      Surely amongst the top five rules of contracts is "If you don't know what you're getting, don't sign.", e... : Deathlove
      • Well these guys are musicians and these video games of rock bands is a new thing, so I can see mistakes b... : Schnapple
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        i'm betting that the contract said something like "the likeness will be used respectfully". activision t... : dirge23
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          "Respect" seems like a nebulous word to use in a contract - is that common? I only ask because you're a l... : Deathlove
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            i'm paraphrasing. i think it would more likely be something to the effect that the likeness would not be ... : dirge23
            • That tracks a little better in my mind, thanks. : Deathlove
    • There has been 4 other Guitar Heros and now 3 rock bands. It doesn't take more than 5 seconds to figure o... : Blackdawgg
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    when grohl, who has nothing to gain from a lawsuit and is very well-off, comes forward, it lends more cre... : EvilDolemite
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      someone doesn't read contracts very thoughroughly. : DonkeyPopsicle
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        Exactly. No where in the "we give you $$$" meeting did any one from Nirvana suddenly have the epiphany "... : silent prophet
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          Question: how have previous artists in these games been handled? Is GH5 the first non-band-specific entry... : Schnapple
          • Never played Aerosmith, but you could use the Metallica avatars in certain modes for any song, and you we... : silent prophet
  • Grohl and Novoselic didn't "sign off" on anything, they stated clearly they have no legal claim and thus ... : rudds
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    oh god that's horrible : Cihte
    • I'm not a fan of cobain or anything but this is so bad, so wrong, so, so fucked up : umegastar
  • lol : pigvomit
• shit it's really been 15 years since he killed himself huh brb getting shotgun : boring gegtik
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  I highly disapprove of the BBC not using Courtney Love's best quote. http://nudel.kelbv.com/guitar-her... : nudel
  • "please ban activision is website of cock wtf" : Dave-A
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  I'm sure we'll see Dave Grohl return all the money he's earned from Guitar Hero now, right? : SiW.
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    in what way would that be a logical or appropriate response? : dirge23
    • in the smug ownage dept apparently : boring gegtik
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      If he's as "dismayed and very disappointed" as he says he is about Activision profiting from a perceived ... : SiW.
      • just because Activision may have breached one contract doesn't mean Grohl gets to break their other unrel... : dirge23
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        Who's to say that he has any legal ability to demand the removal of Foo Fighters material? : WhatIsThisFor
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          He doesn't have the legal ability to ask for the re-locking of Kurt Cobain, but he did. It's all abo... : SiW.
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            He should demand that activision recall every game disc that has any of his songs on it or else he's a bi... : boring gegtik
            • check and MATE, "dave" grohl : boring gegtik
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              I was thinking they should replace every customer's copy with a version with a special unskippable dedica... : SiW.
              • sounds like a good game : dirge23
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    Haha wow, way to make Grohl out to be this monkey making, stereotypical bimmer owner asshole. I have nev... : ateam311
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      Way to stereotype people who make money or own BMWs as assholes? I don't care if he makes millions or pe : SiW.
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        I said stereotypical. I didn't say it was fucking true. Reading Comprehension -5 : ateam311
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          I wish I had your reading supercomprehension so I could get "money making stereotypical bimmer owner assh... : SiW.
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            I felt like it was implied that he would do something like that, and the only personality I could think o... : ateam311
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              is your* : ateam311
              • gayest conversation ever : boring gegtik
            • Just to give a serious answer, I think the response by Grohl and Novoselic is about the best they could d... : SiW.
• Sounds like they should have read the fine print, or lack thereof. : atom519
• They are right, wtf is kurt doing in a guitar hero game. Now out of tune hero? now yer talkin. : jonin
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  They should ship GH5 with a light gun : mr.sleepy
  • LOLS : jonin
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  i have to ask, cause i havent played the game and only seen a few screenshots... what is disrespectful ab... : cpt_gloval
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    He sings No Doubt songs with Gwen Steffani animations and Public Enemy songs with Flavor Flav animations. : kek
    • haha. wow. : Mmmmmoo
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    If you lose a level playing as him, he pulls out a shotgun and blows his brains out and you lose all of y... : mr.sleepy
    • There are alot of Kurt Cobain posts in this thread. This one wins. : Omaha
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    Cobain was a very reserved individual with a particular set of beliefs about the music industry and how h... : Schnapple
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      To clarify: if he was only in the game portraying Nirvana songs and acting as he did on stage during his ... : Schnapple
      • Or him running around and hear Courtney Love's voice. LOL : mr.sleepy
    • He should have stayed alive to defend that image... : Jiven
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    check out some videos of cobain etc on youtube. friggin hilarious : smax
    • yeah... holy shit that's pretty amazing : cpt_gloval
• ateam311, we agree. : abrasion
• I think I might support this bad taste with my money. I'll keep Cobain on stage for every song except hi... : pigvomit
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  I think it's fucking absurd, and Grohl / Krist / Courtney are all fucking lamers too... : zeke
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    yeah the whole thing sounds absurd. they SOLD HIS LIKENESS. if they were really that concerned about t... : cpt_gloval
    • I agree 100%. :) I'm sure the Cobain estate gets most of the royalties for Nirvana media which is stil... : zeke
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      Him dancing around singing Bon Jovi songs isn't his likeness though. : Cihte
      • As in, it's unlike him. : Cihte
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  You guys all take this was to seriously. It's a video game, who cares. : DogDharma
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    You're taking this thread too seriously. : WhatIsThisFor
    • You're taking this subthread too seriously. : ateam311
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    It's a video game, who cares. Why are we even here then? (here being a video game discussion forum) : Schnapple
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      To talk about tits. : ieGod
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        pics or gtfo : brainchild420
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          NWS https://www.msu.edu/course/isb/202/ebertmay/images/boobies.jpg : ieGod
          • Awesome pair! I AGREE! : schwinky
          • pfft webbed feet = gross! : brainchild420
  • courtney love and some of the former nirvana band members, apparently : DeBurgo
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  When you sign your name on that big ass contract they can and will whore your ass out anyway they can. : theghostofsmdever
  • I just imagined activision CEO Bobby Kotick pulling a weekend at bernies 2 to get Cobain to sign the agre... : Prozium
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  He was a pop singer. And he killed himself, he wasn't murdered or anything. I don't see what grounds pe... : Boxelder
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    If he was murdered that completely changes things and people have grounds to complain : boring gegtik
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      Time to go catch a train... with your face http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Duce : Schnapple
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        I totally forgot he got hit by a train. How does one do that anyway? It doesn't say if there was a car ... : hatelull
        • The guy who made that documentary Kurt & Courtney interviewed him a few days before he died. Dude lived o... : Schnapple
    • Murder and suicide have different social meanings dilhole : Boxelder
    • i bet that's why michael jackson didn't make the cut huh : Zek
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  You say he's up there singing shitty songs, did they really include that many Nirvana songs or just a few... : pres589
  • Hehe : GreatGooglyMoogly
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  I bet Kurt Cobain would tell everyone to shut the fuck up and get over it. This is retarded. : mwasher
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    actually I'm pretty sure he's rolling over in his grave right about now. : kainen1
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      well then that would make him even more of a whiny bitch than his music made him seem. *ducks* : mwasher
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        how's the view from under the bridge? : kainen1
        • I imagine it's better than from the grave OH SNAP : d fluke
• I know one person who's not complaining. : capt tripps
• This whole concept of disrespect is bullshit. No one would complain if it was comedy/satire and a likenes... : d fluke
• You "backlash the backlasher" people are a little off. And it doesn't matter if you're a Nirvana fan or : kainen1
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  All of this is missing the entire point, which is Nirvana sucked. Cobain putting a shotgun in his mouth w... : edge198
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    hurf durf : Godhatesfatpeople
    • Are you okay???!?? : CrustaR
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    That is certainly an opinion you have there. Do you hail from the Nordic lineage, or are your roots mor... : hatelull
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      I want to answer this, but I have no idea what you're talking about : edge198
      • Your chance to critically hit with Throwing Weapons is increased by 1%. : kek
      • It's obvious he's asking whether you are the Asgardian deity Thor or the lead singer from the Red Hot Chi... : idioglossia
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      For a split second I thought you were talking about metal classifications, heh. : dravalen
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        I was going for sort of an obtuse angle. : hatelull
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          I think it worked. : one random winner
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            Unfortunately. :( : hatelull
            • No, I would say fortunately ;) : one random winner
  • If anything he killed Hair Metal, or at least seemed to be the Catalyst. Sure, It would have happened ... : zeke
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    You really think the Foo Fighters are better than Nirvana? haha : silent prophet
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      the foo fighters do make me appreciate that grohl was a lot of the songwriting talent in nirvana, a lot m... : dirge23
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        like what? all of bleach and most of nevermind were already written when grohl joined. : zeke
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          identifying the parts of nirvana that sound like the foo fighters is left as an exercise for the reader : dirge23
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            "Upon its release, Nevermind exceeded all expectations and became a massive success, catapulting the band... : zeke
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              "songwriting" may not be the right word, but i mean the influence Grohl had on Nirvana's sound. i don't r... : dirge23
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                Yeah if I recall correctly, Scentless Apprentice was the first song Grohl contributed to the band that wa... : kek
                • A great song too :D : Godhatesfatpeople
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        He's a better drummer and music coordinator than a songwriter or guitarist. He's the reason why that QOTS... : Godhatesfatpeople
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          yeah, it's more of a "third heat" factor than an actual songwriting thing, i guess : dirge23
          • I don't think he sucks at those other things. But his best strengths to me is his drumming and music setu... : Godhatesfatpeople
        • God I love that QotSA album. : brickmatt
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        Um, no. Grohl was insignificant in the songwriting process of Nirvana. One song is credited to him (Marig... : Cihte
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          welcome to half an hour ago : dirge23
          • Try 12 minutes. I didn't refresh the page. : Cihte
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            Also, I think the more than 100x bigger budget Nevermind had over Bleach (not to mention Butch Vig) had m... : Cihte
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              nevermind sounds too produced. i really love the work steve albini did with it. really made the band so... : EvilDolemite
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                it being "in utero" : EvilDolemite
                • Bleach, Incesticide, and In Utero are great for that reason. Raw and dirty. But Nevermind gets a pass sti... : Godhatesfatpeople
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                They did just stand in one room and play together on In Utero. There's a picture somewhere that shows the : Cihte
                • you can definitely tell grohl likes high levels of production from the way the very first foo fighters al... : EvilDolemite
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              what is your point? that grohl was just the drummer and didn't contribute shit? : dirge23
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                No. Just that his contribution was nothing more than that of a good instrumentalist; not a creative force... : Cihte
                • Compare the musical differences between Bleach and In Utero. That's not all budget/production and it's n... : dirge23
      • I'll go out on that limb. I do think the Foo Fighters are better than Nirvana was. Nirvana was alright... : AhmNee
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      I do because I can listen to the Foo Fighters with getting the urge to put a gun in my own mouth : edge198
      • I knew FF was good suicide music : Godhatesfatpeople
      • shit *without getting the urge to put a gun my own mouth* : edge198
    • Oh yeah for sure, far more entertaining. : d3tached
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      I do. Musically, compositionally, songwriting, overall they are a more mature band and sound. Better, y... : indosauros
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        lol, it's not even close sadly. At the risk of sounding like a music snob, some things are somewhat appr... : kainen1
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          Also, to be fair on the point of maturity, Nirvana only existed for 7 years, and look at their impact. Fo... : silent prophet
          • And of those years, most people were only exposed to them for less than 3. : Cihte
        • It's not close, you're right. Foo Fighters are FAR above Nirvana in terms of music composition : indosauros
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          That's entirely personal opinion. Stop spinning your bullshit like it's "truth" because you're not going ... : ateam311
          • No, he's actually right. It's a joke. Sorry. : NastyJack
    • You're comparing apples to oranges imo. I listen to Nirvana to listen to Nirvana, much like I listen to F... : ateam311
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    You were what...8 when Nirvana hit? Not that that invalidates your opinion, but there's more of a vacuum... : owly
    • ^This guy wins the thread : Drewus
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    Signed. They need to take Cobain's dead body, and beat the surviving Beatles to death with it. : Phil
    • i agree but only with respect to mccartney : dirge23
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    The pedestal that people put Nirvana on is ridiculous. They were only good compared to the crap-tas... : indosauros
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      Considering the vast amounts of music I've been buying through the years and still today. I still listen ... : Godhatesfatpeople
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        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SnvejVyL2s f'ing amazing. : Cihte
        • haha awesome : Godhatesfatpeople
        • total john bonham drumming there, just heavy : EvilDolemite
  • Heh, you could say I'm pretty 'indie' : bipolar
• So when Grohl / Novoselic get into a car, does one yell "Shotgun!" ? : festivalman
• Did everyone hear the real story? Apparently they licensed Cobain's image for the game but Love and "frie... : Phreakin
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  I heard GH5 was using an inappropriate font too. : TreMetal
  • You're from that IKEA boycott movement, aren't you! : Schnapple
  • It actually uses a font that was designed specifically for the franchise. : not work safe
• Wait, so. We're supposed to be upset about a fake character taking part in funny, sarcastic actions th : Danny5225
• i'm presuming the legal team that did up the contracts for GH5 was the same that did them for the first 6... : gokart.
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  why the fuck doesn't activision just patch the game so that Cobain can only be used on Nirvana songs? It'... : thecray
  • Actually all of this free advertising is making them lots of $$$ : ashkie