Morning Discussion: Post-It From America

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• Don't die until level 25, then kill steal and pwn. : multisync
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  I've only been playing AR games for the last 24 hours or so, and I love it. : zebosausamite
  • I think I need to do this as RD/SD are getting really stale with the same picks and same players HORRIBLE... : multisync
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    Yeah just wait till you get STR STR STR RANGED + LEAVER and your enemy gets TANK/CARRY/HEAL/CARRYTANK/SUP... : boomstickah
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      whoah, you mean the leaver goes to the other team?!?!? =P : action roommate
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        Don't be silly! AR (not you) is good for shits and giggles, but variety? Hell naw. You think variety ... : boomstickah
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          The best is when you turn the game on some shit talkers. Last night a valk was talking smack early game ... : kgargs
          • yeah, we had one like that last night. Some night hound kept giving our tb shit the entire game. Ended ... : JuffoWup
    • two nights ago it was 4 melee + 1 ranged, and we still beat the other team. It's possible. I love all r... : unjustend
• Get survivability and IAS and try to help your team as much as possible, even though you're going to be c... : Foxhawk
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  magebane is awful I hear. Everything he does well can be done by another agi carry. I hear he's a pretty ... : boomstickah
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    mb is fun because he can blink, but he can't do anything other than attack one guy. Mana void is AOE now... : Foxhawk
    • I got a hat trick with it once! : action roommate
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    he's not awful, but he's just not special. He's great for 1v1 because he has the fastest base attack spee... : Xanthos
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      This is what I don´t understand, why have a hero that´s not good for teamplay in a teambased game ?... : gebz
      • because the game evolved into a very team coordinated game, but originated as just five jackasses picking... : Xanthos
    • he rapes with a basher ;( and wingbow : Iwannaacura
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  Here's that thread http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20809559 : action roommate
  • Spank you. : [7]kami
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  I think torturer is the easiest hero to get super strong right now - hands down. You need one item (sac ... : kgargs
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    I had a hilarious 1v1 last night. Me as Hammerstorm vs Tarkayn as Legionnaire. It was super late game... : action roommate
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      Pretty sure I saw defiler there too. So it wasn't a 1v1 : boomstickah
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        oh yes it was. Someone showed up last minute but they were too late. : action roommate
        • That was me. Yeah, by the time I got there, it was over. : re-verse
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      Don't get frostfield on hammerstorm. He needs damage items way more than tank items. Get a flayer or what... : Xanthos
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        Yeah, I had never played him that late into a game before - so I had no idea wtf. I was just buying stuf... : action roommate
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          yeah thats the great part about him, he farms like crazy after a few initial items. The rest of your item... : Xanthos
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            I can't figure out what the item is that you're referencing. I wasn't even aware that Whispering Helm up... : action roommate
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              It doesn't! : kgargs
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                god you're such a fucking nub. really i'm going to start calling you peters. : Xanthos
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                  no wait sorry that'd be an insult to peters. you're like the bastard child of bead and peters, but droppe... : Xanthos
                  • I love reading these threads. : MercFox1
              • satanic dude! : kainen1
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              whispering helm is part of symbol of rage isn't it? : multisync
              • That's is. Thanks! : action roommate
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              symbol of rage. Protective, bottom right. whispering helm + axe of malphas + 1100 gold. 20 damage, 25 ... : Xanthos
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                I thought you were saying helm of the dominator old man! : kgargs
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                  helm upgrades to satanic. you're still cut. : Xanthos
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                    little embarrassed here. Not gonna lie. You win this round McShits : kgargs
                    • you're confusing me with foxhawk. you could have at least tried mcpoops. god you're just full of fucki... : Xanthos
            • Symbol of Rage. : Lexicon_Leidun
    • that game was totally awesome... almost 2hrs of pwnage got like 20 assists : r3dn3ck
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    i was 0/16 with him last night. NOT A FAN. CANT LAND STUN :( : multisync
    • Yeah it requires some skill : boomstickah
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      It's easier to land than pyro's wtf : kgargs
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        I think pyro's cast time is shorter, range is further and radius is larger. or at least it feels that... : multisync
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          I would think the cast time is longer?! : kgargs
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            torts is longer, especially after pyro gets his passive. : Xanthos
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              tort's is stupid i hate it, it has that stupid delay between the spell's animation effects and the actual... : kpxkrnjc
              • yeah torts is kinda lame. : Xanthos
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                It's definitely harder to time, but not impossibly so. : c0bra
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                  it's annoying as fuck to see the graphic land on someone only to have them walk out of it because of the ... : kpxkrnjc
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                    yeah this is how i feel. : Xanthos
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                      maybe they'll fix it if we beat up S2jason : [7]kami
                      • lets do it, i already took his lunch monies : Xanthos
  • leshrac was badass in dota, he was just easy to kill. The chains in HoN actually are way better than lesh... : Xanthos
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  Man I had some really shit and boring games last night. The game might be running out of steam for me. ... : kainen1
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    including pre-wipe data, i'm sure i have well over 200 games now. : action roommate
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      including pre-wipe I'm over 400 easy. I'm getting just the opposite from kainen though. Playing in the neutrals with double/triple stacking and going back to playing carries has given me a renewed interest!
      
      AR's helping some too!

      Sep 10, 2009 7:58am PDT
      including pre-wipe I'm over 400 easy. I'm getting just the opposite from kainen though. Playing in the ... : kgargs
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    last night did not count dude. If we doing 1600/1650+ games we shouldn't be trying to play with 1450~ ps... : kgargs
    • No it's not that, I just mean in general - I won a couple of games last night and lost a couple, has noth... : kainen1
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  So I just installed this this morning! Then I left for work... pro-tips / suggestions? : dedgecko
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    Are you new to the game or have you played DOTA? : [7]kami
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      I played with you guys in a DOTA game once this summer... And that was it. Am I screwed? : dedgecko
      • No you are just in for a nice steep learning curve. I did the same. And look where it got me. IT GOT ME T... : [7]kami
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    Play ranged int to start. : zebosausamite
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      This, also try not to be too aggressive. Read the forums for some strategies. read these threads for so... : unjustend
      • stay in range where you are still getting exp when things die. when you get below half health and you don... : Xanthos
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      How do I tell which are ranged int? For that matter, how do I tell what the primary stats are for any he... : asylumn
      • one of the stats will be highlighted in yellow. During the pick selection in a AP game they're clearly ma... : Xanthos
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        http://honwiki.net/wiki/Heroes Intelligence heroes are in the middle. If you mouse-over their portrait in... : c0bra
        • http://heroesofnewerth.com/heroes.php : zebosausamite
        • Ooh, that is a handy link, thanks. : asylumn
  • Read at least one introductory guide before you do anything, and read a guide for each hero you play too. : Zek
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  God i played stupid bear last night, i think its my 3rd time out of 300+ games he rapes casters so hard. ... : Iwannaacura
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    I like playing bear, but what are the HoN names for items that you are referencing? I can't open the foru... : boomstickah
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      desolator = shieldbreaker, reduces armor of the target by 6 and gives you a huge damage boost. : Xanthos
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        oh and hyper = warpcleft. : Xanthos
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          this is different. I usually go steamboots + deamonic armor + thunderclaw, and I don't know what else an... : JuffoWup
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            you get that feeling because there is a softcap. diminishing returns reduces the effectiveness of each IA... : Xanthos
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              what kind of items do you put on the bear then? Marchers would be a good assumption, but after that, I d... : JuffoWup
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                usually just boots then a warpcleft, then stack wildsoul. After wildsoul gets stacked, i sometimes drop a... : Xanthos
                • agreed, and I love the fact he is a great lane pusher because of the bear's bonus damage against towers. ... : JuffoWup
• Don't bother learning him until he gets reworked. If they want him to be a team-oriented hero, he'll have... : Xanthos
• easies way to pwn with mage bane is attack speed attack speed attack speed... did i mention attack speed... : r0cky143
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  had a ridiculously long game with twifosp and my brother yesterday. went like 80 minutes or some shit. ... : kpxkrnjc
  • lol peebles. : MercFox1
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    health regen on 2 hearts doesn't stack : multisync
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      true, but not necessarily a waste either. increased HP and increased STR means more health regen anyways. : Xanthos
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        .75 more health regen : c0bra
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          from the str itself but i'm referring to the 1% health regen from the HP buff. 35 str and 300 hp is a ton... : Xanthos
          • I just start buying the 3200 reavers/whatever at that point. Had 5000+ on pudge a couple of times this w... : kgargs
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            Oh I didn't know you got HP regen based on your actual HP. How does that work? : c0bra
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              thats what the 1% hp regen is for from the first heart. After that you just need a shitton of max hp. : Xanthos
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                Okay, so you get 1% from the first heart but since the 2nd doesn't stack you only get 1% still, plus the ... : c0bra
                • the percent is based off your max HP i believe, not your base regen. So from the second heart you get the... : Xanthos
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                  As I understand it, they just mean that second .75 from the stat buff (plus an additional whatever from t... : Lexicon_Leidun
                  • Yeah, forgot about the hp increase that the heart adds straight up. Just... yeah, What Xanthos said. : Lexicon_Leidun
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  Had the most ridiculously long game last night. We finally lost at 103 minutes! Yes, that's 1 hours and : paulatreus
  • :D : action roommate
  • I get alot of 80-100 min games :D they are to much fun : 7621305