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  Using the bioshock engine eh? : abrasion
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    idtech 4 : zverozyab
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      Far Cry 2 eh? : abrasion
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        FarCry 2 uses Dunia.... : IndigoAK
        • You miss my point :( : abrasion
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    unreal 3? : dantastic
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      Whatever it takes for me to take the piss out of Bioshock and FarCry 2's mouse code - I'm down, fuck I mi... : abrasion
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        D3DOverrider works fantastically with both of those games as long as you turn off in-game vsync first. : Sapiens
        • I am not sure but I think I used that for Far Cry 2 - and yeah it fixed it up and made the mouse code bet... : abrasion
      • i turned vsynch on or off i think and it fixed my trouble with FC2. i dont think i had trouble with bios... : dantastic
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  Yes, you must get your framerate above 60 fps. Get rid of vsync, various graphical options.... Just a... : SpaecKow
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    Unless Wolfenstein is somehow different from every other PC game, this is pretty wrong. http://www.ana... : Sapiens
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      Were you just waiting in the wings for someone to mention v-sync so you could post that article? Vsy... : SpaecKow
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        It's just a terrible solution to an easy to fix problem. Triple buffering is a far better way to deal wi... : Sapiens
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          I always turn vsync off and never consider triple buffering. Now I can do so with glee, picturing you wi... : MamiyaOtaru
          • Hey if you like screen tearing knock yourself out. With so many games having terrible or non-existent vs... : Sapiens
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    I'm running at 86fps at the moment, mouse lag is still very noticeable. Tried disabling V-Sync as well : Mr. Goodwrench
    • Yeah, I was able to get decent input by bumping the resolution down to 1680x1050, but you never know with... : SpaecKow
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      try enabling triple buffering : moshman
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        In theory, triple buffering should add mouse lag, not subtract from it (exactly 1 frames worth, which at ... : bipolar
        • Check out the AnandTech article I linked above. Vsync with triple buffering will cause a very small amou... : Sapiens
    • disable v sync, go to graphic driver options and look for 'pre render frames' or 'frames to render ahead'... : 60days
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  If Wolfenstein doesn't have proper triple buffering support you will experience input lag out the wazoo w... : Sapiens
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    This is also assuming it's using Direct3D and not OpenGL. I haven't paid attention to Wolfenstein at all... : Sapiens
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      I think it is OpenGL, since it's off of Id Tech 4, but I haven't checked (though I'd be surprised if some... : the archvile
      • Idtech 4 is opengl, but wolfenstein renderer was moved over to d3d for some reason. http://www.modwiki.n... : AgentPothead
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  Playstation 2? Are you sure? Do people not realize what games were like on the PS2, and what Wolfenstein ... : skankcore
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    plus playstation 2 games looked like shit back then, they're going to look even worse today : dantastic
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      Dan that console is nearly nine years old now. When it first debuted those games looked stellar, and even... : ieGod
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        the fact of the matter is the OP was saying that a brand new big budget title looks like a PS2 game. the... : dantastic
        • I wasn't replying to the OP, I was replying to your "PS2 games looked like shit back then". They didn't. : ieGod
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  Are you playing it on a new monitor - one you haven't played an FPS game on before? If so, and it's an MV... : yacoub35
  • Nope. Had this monitor for a good year or so. I've decided to quit this game anyway, played it for an ... : Mr. Goodwrench
• I haven't played another 5 mins since I got it after I couldn't get rid of the fucking lag. : moe6
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  idtech4 without fsaa and poor mouse support? wow. Doom3 supported x8 fsaa and the mouse support was spo... : Tech T
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    Different lighting; I think Wolfenstein uses deferred. Doom 3 didn't : IndigoAK
    • I think I just threw up a little in my mouth. : Tech T
• This will be the first Wolfenstein game I don't play and it will be because of the stories of horrible co... : .frame
• I never got that. The movements were slow so I moved mouse sensitivity up but that was it. : thrallie200
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  Deep Space was the fucking worst : ShadowRam
  • That's weird, I never had any mouse lag whatsoever in Dead Space : Mr. Goodwrench

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  I was reading I think that Ars Technica review or whatever on Snow Leopard. The one where the reviewer is... : steelsamurai
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    You should haven't expected so much. Snow Leopard's a retail service pack and most of the changes are und... : Link.
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      Obvious troll is obvious. : terath
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        Never use horrible 4chan speak again. How am I "trolling"? Because you disagree with me? Apple plainly... : Link.
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          Because unless this is the first apple thread you've read on the topic, you'd know that calling Apple ope... : terath
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            Other Mac OS X updates aren't glorified service packs. Simple as that. : Link.
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              Derp. : Gonzo
              • Really, the only appropriate response. : terath
              • I love these posts :D : Dave-A
              • So appropriate. : mrvandelay
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            This is off subject, but I'm wondering why everybody always says to do an OS upgrade clean. I have never... : IndigoAK
            • It's not so much the performance issues as it is the possible random bug that is not fix-able without a ... : jasoncrowley
  • This really goes for just about any software company though. What about winfs, etc. I know what you're ta... : boarder2
  • I'm still loving XP. It works great all patched up. Its been through hell and back so its tough! : gyokuro
  • Is the vm system really all that different from other vms though? I've never had a good experience with a... : terath
  • Oh, the reviewer of that did the last few iterations as well, and he's knocked out such amazingly pesudo-... : d fluke
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  I like bananas. : tinfoilhatter
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    Go on... : posito
    • I am peeling the banana. : Mmmmmoo
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  Okay, this is totally not a troll, I'm honestly very ignorant about the topic--I just honestly don't unde... : mlev
  • People identifying themselves by what OS they use are the same as all the other insecure assholes who see... : kramweil
  • What hardware are you talking about? Because if you're comparing desktop stuff at clock for clock not act... : boarder2
  • So you built a computer equivalent to a Mac Pro for 800? : phobium
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    The i7 Xeons in that Mac Pro cost more than your entire PC. The problem with Apple's desktops is that : Serpico74
    • So they choose to not cater to the consumer who doesn't need a round peg for their square hole. And we fi... : boomstickah
    • I would like to be able to use my mini as an HTPC, however it still chokes on 1080p video. : spazzium
    • This is all true. I would just mention that the majority of users dont need the expandability. The iMac... : topkatz
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    Plus you can't ignore the fact that you can install Mac OS on most modern PCs and have it work just fine.... : sanchez
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      Apart from it being completely illegal and unsupported. :) : nudel
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        Then you buy Mac OSX and then it's legal. : sanchez
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          It still isn't legal. The OS X EULA expressly forbids installing it on 3rd party hardware or in VMs. : nudel
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            This always makes me sad. :( Some aspects of Apple I really do dislike. All of those aspects can be summe... : terath
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              I dunno, restricting installation to only Apple hardware is a pretty pragmatic decision on their part. it... : warpdude
              • Well I think that's one reason but I think it's pretty obvious that the main reason is sp nobody starts s... : sanchez
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                Sure, but they could equally well just say it's "unsupported on non-apple hardware, we can't help you wit... : terath
                • I think they want to avoid other people installing it on non-mac hardware, selling it, then having it fuc... : sammyl
                • That's pretty much what they're doing with the eula. They're not going to go after you for installing os ... : boarder2
              • As a developer on Windows I couldn't imagine not being able to use virtual machines for testing against d... : nudel
          • Well as long as you're not selling PCs with Mac OS preinstalled then who cares? I don't think Apple would... : sanchez
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            "illegal" and EULA violation are a little different. You aren't going to jail for building a hackintosh. : Conan
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              No but you can be sued : Schnapple
              • You won't get sued for installing it, you might get sued if you sell pre-configured machines running OSX : MagicWishMonkey
          • The validity of EULAs are a legal grey area at best. : evildanish
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          except not, because the EULA clearly states that OS X can only be installed on Apple hardware : warpdude
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            like a EULA is really going to stop someone (unless of course its a business that could get audited) : esecasco
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              I'm not saying it won't stop anyone. I'm just saying it's not legal :/ : warpdude
              • ah gotcha, sorry I took it out of context. : esecasco
              • the validity of EULAs, particularly some of the clauses in them (like what you can do with a product you ... : MamiyaOtaru
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                EULA is not law. : ieGod
                • Wasn't there a big thing about this with Glider in WoW not that long ago and they wanted to sue the peopl... : mlev
          • I thought i heard that they were being sued for this, and were also being investigated for anti-trust. i... : jimmy_legs
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      How easy is it to do that? : baron calamity
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        Depends upon the hardware. If you get the right system it is exceptionally easy. : LoioshDwaggie
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          Is there a web site that can tell you if your system is easy or hard to install a mac os? : baron calamity
          • it's not quite as simple as that, but insanelymac.com is a good start : MamiyaOtaru
          • Here's a wiki with supported hardware: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page : MagicWishMonkey
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    That extra 2200 mostly goes to things you probably left out but didn't notice. Things like bluetooth, fir... : terath
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      I don't know about XP and earlier, but in Vista and 7 all you do is plug in or plug in the monitor and go... : IndigoAK
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        Yeah what? What are you talking about disabling a monitor? Just unplug it. This has always worked in w... : mlev
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          I switched before vista. In XP if you didn't disable it first, it would often still be active and you cou... : terath
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            Oh, i see what you're saying. I guess I just never did this. ? Or at least never had the problem. Prob... : mlev
            • It's only a problem if you have some horrible monitor or video card with terrible hardware and drivers. X... : LoioshDwaggie
    • Ditto on OSX. I tried a Mini years ago and it just pissed me off far less than windows does every day (an... : node
    • You're pretty much describing my experience with Windows, ever since XP--at least with the hardware exper... : Halen
  • I'd really like to see that hardware list for your $800 PC. : pres589
  • Why do you feel a need to understand? People have preferences, big fucking deal. : walker270

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  I have tried even narrowing down to ten and it is impossible. : dognose
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    How hard is it to finish Painkller. The demo was so freaky and exhausting, I think I might puss out and... : Lightzout
    • Finishing the first Painkiller is very easy, and quite fun, and still gorgeous to this day. : dognose
    • great game, loved it, its like one giant adrenaline orgasm : dancingpolkabear
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  I think I need to play Bioshock, Fallout 3 and Mass Effect before I can determine this outcome, amirite? : Lightzout
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    Probably, although I don't think Bioshock or Mass Effect belong among such august company. Maybe Fallout ... : UtilityMaximizer
    • And I feel bad for not having NOLF or NOLF 2 on that list. : UtilityMaximizer
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  Deus Ex, Homeworld, System Shock 2, Mechwarrior 2, and Super Mario Brothers 3. Tie Fighter is a close six... : theangrywaffles
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    And I just noticed there are no console games here. Maybe it's time to stop dicking around with consoles,... : theangrywaffles
    • Fuck never mind. Smb3 is, but it might as well be tied with Tie Fighter. : theangrywaffles
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  No particular order: Morrowind (just played through it again, it's a much better game than Oblivion) ... : timmie
  • Oh snap, missed Zelda: LttP and Super Metroid :( : timmie
  • DOOM fucking 2? There's a difference between great old games that retain their greatness, and those th... : ntrefz
• Vagrant Story, FFT, FF12, Torment and Shadow of the Colossus. : Vincent Grayson
• I am with you on NOLF, but I would have to put GTA IV and Fallout 3 somewhere in the list. Half-Life 2 w... : Thresher
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  System Shock 2 belongs on that list. : mrwolf710
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    I have never found a working copy of System Shock 2. Planescape is also on my wish list. I bought it an... : Lightzout
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      I haven't heard good things about getting SS2 to run nowadays. : UtilityMaximizer
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        yeah i've always wanted a copy but its hard nowadays, it needs to be put on GOG or Steam or something : dancingpolkabear
        • If it was on either, I'd buy it instantly. : UtilityMaximizer
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        Is it win 95? I think I may actually have a few copies of win95 and win98 I could install on my old penti... : Lightzout
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          System Requirements: Windows 9x, Pentium or K6 200+ MHz, 32 MB RAM, 4X CD/DVD-ROM, DirectX 6+, Highcolor... : UtilityMaximizer
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            Hmm I gotta get the old PIII box back from my brother I guess. : Lightzout
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              It ought to run beautifully. It probably doesn't support widescreen resolutions, so I'm not sure I could ... : UtilityMaximizer
              • Visit TTLG.com's forums. or go here http://www.strangebedfellows.de/index.php/board,15.0.html SS2 run... : Iazu
      • All I remember having to do was applying a no-cd crack since the copy protection is broken on win2k and u... : sanchez
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  Also in no particular order: 1) Myst 2) KOTOR I 3) Mass Effect 4) The Longest Journey 5) Monkey Is... : Cheeziologist
  • actully, pull monkey island and insert Final Fantasy IV : Cheeziologist
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    The original TLJ is one of the most imaginative and wonderful games I've ever played. Only knock against ... : Orange Pylon
    • I'm still waiting for Ragnar to stop fucking around with this Conan bullshit and write part 3 of the stor... : Cheeziologist
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    The Longest Journey and Grim Fandango are two legends of the shack mind that I must play before i can fin... : Lightzout
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      I found Grim Fandango's puzzles to be annoying, and it has trouble running on modern systems (they're too... : UtilityMaximizer
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        scummVM : Cheeziologist
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          Grim Fandango doesn't use SCUMM. : UtilityMaximizer
          • oh, my bad. Sorry : Cheeziologist
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  Ocarina of Time : invisible_kid
  • Oops... and: Deus Ex Half Life 2 KOTOR King's Quest VI : invisible_kid
• In no order: Planescape: Torment, Suikoden 2, Half-life, Grim Fandango, Final Fantasy [insert controversi... : Orange Pylon
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  Metal Gear Solid without a doubt, Final Fantasy 7, Goldeneye, Half Life 2, and probably STALKER. : Gojirah
  • definitely MGS, and either Half Life is amazing : dancingpolkabear
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  Megaman 2, Super Metroid, Half-Life (the whole series), Final Fantasy VII, Diablo 2 Fallout 3 gets the... : zerog83
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    Metroid Prime also gets an honorable mention : zerog83
    • Ah yes, I looove Metroid Prime but I haven't played any of the sequels : Gojirah
  • Enough time has passed, I might give Super Metroid another shot. Everyone lists it as their favorite game... : Orange Pylon
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  First five that come to my mind: 1) Deus Ex 2) FarCry 3) HL1 4) FEAR 5) The Witcher : dkrulz
  • Phew! In the post preview I briefly thought that said "Deus Ex 2". I'm relieved. : UtilityMaximizer
  • I have to disagree with far cry, but but the others are pretty delicious : dancingpolkabear
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  No particular order.... 1. HL2 2. Mass Effect 3. Max Payne 4. Ocarina of Time 5. Super Metroid ... : K1Bond007
  • There has not been enough Max Payne in this thread : dognose
• Oh, this is easy. In order: Deus Ex Final Fantasy Tactics Shadow of the Colossus Breath of Fire III... : Modica Sol Solis
• Star Control II XCOM: UFO Defense Harpoon Ultima IV Wonderboy in Monsterland : retardhumper
• star trek: elite force : gameagog
• 1. Final Fantasy 3/6: first rpg I ever played. 2. Half-life: I'm including all the mods under this, I sp... : edge198
• Max Payne, MGS, Half-Life, KOTOR, BioShock : Bamtan
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  In no particular order. 1) Beyond Good & Evil 2) Half-Life 2 3) Uncharted: Drake's Fortune 4)... : IndigoAK
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    Yes, I know WoW is an MMO, but quite honestly I spend maybe 0.01% of my playtime in a party with other pe... : IndigoAK
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      it still shouldn't be anywhere near a top 5 singleplayer games : derelict515
      • Opinions are wonderful things. : IndigoAK
• Megaman 2 Super Mario World Elder Scrolls 3 and 4 (Morrowind/Oblivion)... and I'll throw Fallout 3 in w... : CyCo_PL
• KOTOR, Ocarina of Time, Tie Fighter, FF6, MGS1 : WhatIsThisFor
• The first two and number five I would say represent the best gaming can be, 3 and 4 are just games I enjo... : Yabrodan
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  1) Half-Life Represented a vastly different approach to presenting a story, never breaking from the fi... : deject
  • I can't believe I left out Grim Fandango. :( Glottis is my fucking hero. http://www.youtube.com/w... : deject
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    Freedom Fighters was so awesome : PointlesS76
    • It's one of the best cheapass games I've played. I bought it at Walmart for like $7, and it was totally ... : deject
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      Oh god, it is easily the greatest gaming experience of that kind there is. The squad commands were simple... : thetangent
      • ^^^ this, i forgot about this game, it was so damn fun to play. i need to go find my disc and reinstall t... : CoRDS
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    When you do get the chance, play Civilization 4. It's everything that was good about Civilization 2 (exce... : Orange Pylon
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      I bought it with the expansions on Steam a while ago, I just haven't worked up the desire to play it. :( : deject
      • Haha, I know that feeling. Just boot it up on a day when you have plenty of free time. And I mean, PLENTY... : Orange Pylon
      • Read through a few of these, then come back and tell me you don't want to play the game. http://en.wik... : TaintedSyringe
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    Dreamfall was terrible. Annoying and pointless fighting. Terrible ending (unless you really liked to get ... : Longinus00
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      The ending is definitely guilty of the cliffhanger without having a clear sequel in sight problem. The f... : deject
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        Have you played Beyond Good and Evil? Honestly a billion times better than dreamfall and really an overlo... : Longinus00
        • Like Civ 4, it's one of those I have but just have not gotten around to playing. : deject
  • Speaking of System Shock 2, where can I buy a copy of it? I've never played it. Put it on steam :< : AMikaboshi
  • Was going to say Civ 2 for those reasons. KOTOR isn't as good as Baldur's Gate or Mass Effect by any m... : spdon
• Here, I'll select five more, just for the hell of it. And some are obscure! Snatcher: Nothing quite li... : Orange Pylon
• http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/No_One_Lives_Forever I really want to play this again now. : SeaLlama
• Morrowind Bioshock GTA 3 Max Payne Zelda Link to the Past : .Jayson
• this question cannot be fairly answered fuck you for making me choose:( : Jackass1233
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  in no order, half life 2, bioshock, day of the tentacle, doom2, and probably Gta4. : CoRDS
  • Doom 2 is another one of my faves as well, and I love Zdaemon multiplayer with it. It's easily my favorit... : Orange Pylon
  • I'm surprised more people didn't mention MDK. I had a lot of fun playing that. : SKI242
• Needs more Thief 2 and System Shock 2. : Omning
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  Tetris ; Zelda, ALTTP ; SMW ; Earth Bound ; Nolf1&2 combo attack : rosewood
  • solitaire , tetris, minesweeper, sim city, where in the world is carman sandiago : CoRDS
• 1. X-Com : UFO Defense 2. Street Fighter 3 3rd Strike 3. System Shock 2 4. Oblivion 5. Fallout : esecasco
• 1) Half-life1 2) Deus Ex 3) Fallout 4It came from desert (amiga) 5) simcity (amiga) : filthysock
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  1. Deus Ex 2. System Shock 2 3. Planescape: Torment 4. Arcanum 5. KOTOR or Mass Effect or Baldur's Ga... : Link.
  • I'm not even going to touch console games or adventure games here, since there's so much. : Link.
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  No list is complete without mentioning BG2+expansion, PST, and Fallout 1 and 2. Homeworld should be on t... : valael
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    I can't believe BG2 didn't even get a mention until your post. :O : aldraek
    • I still think it's the best Bioware RPG by far. I also think I preferred it to PST. PST's story was inc... : valael
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  NOLF? are you serious? that game was way overrated, that's why no one talks about it anymore. : SynthetiX
  • We talk about here on the Shack all the day. And we all know the world doesn't exist outside the Shack. : IndigoAK
  • NOLF was under, not over rated. : abrasion
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  1) Star Control II 2) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3) Super Metroid 4) Final Fantasy VI 5) Th... : DianeOfTheMoon
  • I agree on SCII, great game. Did you ever try Star Flight? It was great as well. : bombay
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  Fallout 3, Portal, Super Mario, Chu Chu Rocket, Taipan That's pretty much off the top of my head. : cerealSAM2
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    i dont think the original super mario holds up after time : dantastic
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      I would choose Super Mario World over the original, personally. : one random winner
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        i would take the SNES super mario RPG or new super mario bros on DS over those 2. i didn't play much of ... : dantastic
        • While I love SMRPG, NSMB felt somewhere between SMB and SMB3. I can't do top 5's or even top 10's becaus... : one random winner
      • agreed, my favorite Mario game. : dancingpolkabear
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  1. Halo: Combat Evolved 2. Half Life: 2 3. Final Fantasy IX 4. Bioshock 5. Gears of War : sleepytea
  • arrrrghhh. Valkyrie Profile kicks Gears of War off there even though sawing through grubs or blasting t... : sleepytea
• 1) Deus Ex 2) Jedi Knight 3) Privateer 4) Stalker 5) Xwing : MamiyaOtaru
• Deus Ex & Eternal Darkness are on my list, the other 3 are more like 10 different games or more! : Borzoi
• 1. Deus Ex 2. Deus Ex 3. Deus Ex 4. Deus Ex 5. Deus Ex : Anir
• Unreal 1 Final Fantasy 7 Deus Ex Half Life 1 Zelda (SNES) : poporitze
• sm3, ff7, mgs, fo3, i dunno a ton of other ones too : xxiv
• KOTOR, Fallout 2, Diablo 2, Zelda: LTTP, SMW I don't know if I'd say these are the best SP games of al... : re4ctor
• 1. KoTOR 2. Tie Fighter 3. Diablo (1) 4. Doom 2 5. Wing Commander III : spaceyme
• . UFO: Enemy Unknown . Thief: The Dark Project . Fallout . The Last Express . SWAT 3 If you love a... : Patakreps
• Syndicate, Doom, Half Life 1, Warcraft 3 : abrasion
• Alpha Centauri, Deus Ex, Alpha Centauri, Deus Ex, and Alpha Centauri : DonkeyPopsicle
• 1) Half-Life 2) Fallout 3 3) GTA: San Andreas 4) KOTOR 5) Ocarina of Time : at0micgarden
• 1) Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2 - I still have almost every level memorized, that's how much I played this ... : GGAnate
• 1) Quake 1 - nothing can top Q1 singleplayer for me. Add OpenGL patch and RJ speedruns for 2nd-10th run-t... : henrikb

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• Lady Gaga:Cock Band : AgentPothead
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  I'd like some Zeppelin / Floyd Rock Band. : Clay
  • you can't really say you wouldn't want to play Comfortably Numb or Stairway to Heaven : Clay
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  Hanna Montana: Rock Band. : stonedonkey
  • there's whole games of that shit anyways. plus band hero is due out soon : dantastic
• Muse: Rock Band : marmite
• improving Rock Band Network : tashtego
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  Pink Floyd would be fantastic, though I dare anyone to get through the full length of Echoes or Wish You ... : Lone Swordsman
  • Or Dogs, Or Sheep, Or Pigs (3 different ones) : Grumbeld
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  Zeppelin is actively opposed to anything of their going in a music game. The reasons basically amount to : Arcanum
  • I dont see how introducing your music to a new generation is a bad thing. : topkatz
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    After http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvA26p6wMYc I really don't give a fuck what zeppelin want their musi... : AgentPothead
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      God, he really did something horrible with that track. Schoolly d actually id something cool with it l... : re-verse
      • That's Schooly D. I'm pretty sure he's left more talent in logs floating in his toilet then Puffy has eve... : AgentPothead
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    Someone in front comments said the same about Pink Floyd. I think it's all bull shit, cause they all love... : voodooraze
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      How about something that isn't just Rock Band. If you must do another Rock Band game, how about doing so... : kainen1
      • fuck meant to reply to OP : kainen1
    • Rock Band 3 with new gameplay dynamics I hope. I'm sure they could come up with something fresh and new t... : Ellissd
  • The right number of of digits have failed to appear on an offer check. : Fyunch Click
  • At one point in time, so were The Beatles and AC/DC. Also, at one point in time Led Zeppelin was again... : Schnapple
  • And this is why The Who are completely awesome. : node
  • They had no problem selling out one of their songs to Cadillac. : DM7
• Flight of the Conchords: Rock Band : five_percent
• U2: Cock Band (Thanks Peter Serafinowicz) : SiW.
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  Nine Inch Nails: Rock Band please. : michaelleung
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    If they did a David Bowie Rock Band then you could have the NIN remix of I'm Afraid of Americans. : Mecha Tofu Pirate
    • if they did anything with the two of them, i'd love the bowie & trent live version of scary monsters duri... : grifter
• I'm leaning towards Bowie. The guy has the catalogue to really sink some time into, he's got a very wide ... : grifter
• I'd love all 4 of those. : voodooraze
• Lego Rock Band is going to be out soon, I'm going to get that. Really. : michaelleung
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  I would like to see Electric Light Orchestra on Rockband : baron calamity
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    Just give me both Travelling Wilbury albums. Pls. : Fyunch Click
    • The first one was especially good. That needs to happen. : baron calamity
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  There's going to be a Rock Band: Pearl Jam coming out I hear. : DM7
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    that's really unfortunate. : grifter
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      I seriously doubt there will be another band-focused Rock Band. The Beatles was a very very special for t... : LoioshDwaggie
      • Yup. Like I said above, I think there next focus will be improving the Rock Band Network as a platform fo... : tashtego
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        Proof here: http://www.pearljam.com/news/pearl-jam-rock-band-project-coming-next-year : DM7
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          that just sounds like a track pack : grifter
          • Ah ok. :) : DM7
      • It'll have to be another major, major band. Like Floyd or Zeppelin. : Lone Swordsman
    • Maybe for you, I like Pearl Jam. pearljam.com had a poll about a month or so that asked fans to pick... : DM7
  • Yep there is, and it's a must buy for me. : even4
  • that'd be pretty gay. : kainen1
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    It's a track pack, not anything like Beatles: Rock Band. Think AC/DC. : Deathlove
    • Whatever it is, I might consider buying plastic instruments for it. : DM7
• I'm burnt out : onji
• Definitely Bowie, so many great tracks. I'd go for a pack rather than a full game though - as others have... : node
• DEEP PURPLE : r3dn3ck
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  Iron Maiden: Rock Band, plz. :( : SilverSnake
  • man, i'd want to kill myself if i owned that, as much as i love maiden, playing those songs and my slow f... : vov1n
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  U2 and Bowie are the only two I can think of with enough depth and breadth to their catalogs to justify a... : Serpico74
  • NIN, but it'd have to be rated M. : umcpwintermute
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  GWAR: Shock Band : retardhumper
  • Dave Matthews Band: Jock Band : grifter
• I don't think there will be any of those. There will be the content of all of those hopefully, but no... : geedeck
• The only band truly worthy of it's own Rock Band game is Queen. : Halen
• WEEN : c0bra

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  I've had some fun games with Armadon. Juno thanks for the tips! : Nighteyes
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    I don't get Armadon. What is he supposed to do? : [7]kami
    • he's tanky mctankerson, and can harass people enough early on to get kills and farm like a madman. sticky... : Juno
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  I need to give this game another chance. Are there healing classes? : node
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    Yes. Some heals also work offensively (draining anyone who's too close to the healed target), others work... : [7]kami
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      Interesting. What's the best way to get into this game then? Just jumping straight in was a total WTF mom... : node
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        For me reading up on guides, trying to understand how things work, did a lot. Basics: http://forums.her... : [7]kami
        • Awesome, I'll do that. : node
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  Oh hai .o/ Thank god I wasn't the one fucking up (apart from a few bad fissures) this time =D : Bamii
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    You had a few wonderful ults (KAPOINK GG). On the other hand you also had 1k HP at LVL15. On Behemoth... : [7]kami
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      Ehm. The HP was purely because I had to go for a Portal Key as fast as possible since they had so much di... : Bamii
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        Don't blame the team for dying. Initiating (going in first and then disabling/stunning/silencing) with 1k... : [7]kami
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          Fyi, I wasn't initiating. I waited in the back until the fight started. Then ported in and ulted + stunne... : Bamii
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            Ye both Scout (lol) and Hag we pretty useless as support/nuke. I've read the guide and respectfully disa... : [7]kami
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              I don't think you're already in a position to disagree with a guide like this :) If someone just disabled... : Bamii
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                The guide is ok for most games, but first thing one of the Shack Prahs tought me was to stop depending on... : [7]kami
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                  That's sound advice, kami! I see both sides of this discussion have merit! Absolutely spiffing! : Juno
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                    That sound advice was shouted at me repeatedly while i was busy following the guide. So it kinda stuck :... : [7]kami
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                      I´m guilty of following the guides way too much... But I think you really need alot of games under you... : gebz
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                        I have 150+ games under my belt. I get the basics, some variable stuff like reading games and a few advan... : [7]kami
                        • hehe exactly, that´s why I keep coming back for more, too bad I can´t play more than 2-3 games per ... : gebz
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                          You're just terri-bad, though, kami. You need 901824092598+ games before you can go Hon-Pro. :P : MercFox1
                          • OMW GOT ME GUIDES : [7]kami
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                            I followed this build ( http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20854479 ) last night with Hellbringer and wh... : Patch-e
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                              Hellbringer is so sick it's ridiculous. I routinely solo lanes with him if we get a Lego or Zephyr, and I... : MercFox1
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                                What's the best way to quickly swap control between Hellbringer and Malphas? I sometimes lose myself in t... : Patch-e
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                                  pretty sure the tab button works if you have both selected. : Xanthos
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                                    I just want to make a hotkey to auto select Hellbringer, I think doing a ctrl-1 would make the 1 key sele... : Patch-e
                                    • yep, you lose it : kgargs
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                                      Yes, when he dies or goes unsummoned you have to rebind your control group. Same with BooBoo. : Xanthos
                                      • I really wish they would just automatically make your hero 1 and your summons 2. : SockMonkeh
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                  And yea, agreed on the team. But we were the team too and didn't really bring our A game either. Think i ... : [7]kami
                  • Also: i'm mixing up games. We didn't have tard hag. We had tard Tempest. :-) : [7]kami
• Had an interesting game last night. It really looked bad at the start with the opposing team having magm... : JuffoWup
• I had an absolutely atrocious game last night playing Torturer. No kills, like 16 deaths and a boatload o... : Sexpansion Pack
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  I started playing like 3 days ago. I had a game yesterday in a pub noob server that had this guy with 170... : S1ing B1ade
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    I don't get why he's that worked up on a noobserver. Instead of shouting, he could have coached but not e... : [7]kami
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      yea but it's a fucking game. : RogerDandy
      • So what? Football is also just a game. Some people like competitive play. : [7]kami
      • tell that to the parents that beat each other up over their kids junior soccer/football/baseball games. : Xanthos
  • For some people winning in a game is pretty much the only thing they have going for them in life. : AgentPothead
  • After playing this game for a while I absolutely understand how people get so pissed over it. However, ge... : SockMonkeh
  • i'd play in the beginner tier games ( rank) for now.....no one who has a 1700 should ever be in those and... : kainen1
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  I fell from 1610 to something like 1460 this weekend and forced myself to take some time off. It's infu... : Head Rush
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    yeah i know the feeling, you win some you lose some - but honestly you learn from each game.....and you w... : kainen1
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      Still doesn't matter how you perform if the rest of the team feeds, etc. : [7]kami
      • Well it does actually sometimes matter, depending on the coordination of the other team and how well it h... : Xanthos
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  Hijack: All this HoN talk has finally gotten to me. Anyone have a spare key they could throw my way? P... : asylumn
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    shackmessage me your email addy : Sexpansion Pack
    • You sir, are a scholar and a gentleman. Much appreciated. : asylumn
• Sounds like everyone's had some bad games. I went 2 or 3-17 last night with bloodhunter. Not bad. We s... : kgargs
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  Let me go on record by saying that I'm with kgargs now - PSR basically is a load of trash. Yeah, you can... : kainen1
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    paging jimb0v to disagree with us! : kgargs
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      They should change the PSR formula to something like what the NFL QB Rating is. There's a perfect rating,... : MercFox1
      • This is a good idea.. you could wrap all those up into one package and have a more indicative rating. If... : kgargs
      • Still doesn't work because of player/hero/gametype bias. I could choose soulstealer and have the highest ... : Xanthos
    • Haha. You would be surprised to hear that I don't disagree. More information is never bad. The pro... : Jimb0v2
  • My biggest problem with PSR that it makes me feel like WoW Arena. I want 2k+ because... well because i wa... : [7]kami
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    i still disagree with the k:d:a and exp/min inclusions. While i won't deny that they may be indicative of... : Xanthos
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      My roommate last night stayed and took out both the melee barracks and the ranged barracks in the middle ... : SockMonkeh
      • yeah i've had plenty of games where i'll play a tank and my team is way too fickle and won't commit when ... : Xanthos
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      On the other hand, anyone who works really hard to help their carry (by avoiding last hits, kills, etc) i... : c0bra
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        yeah without being in the game you can't say they didn't farm well because they're not good or they didn'... : Xanthos
        • I'm no pro, but it seems obvious to me even already that the biggest factor in winning any game is just k... : SockMonkeh
    • Pretty much this, if you don't think any stat besides win/loss will be abused to give crappy players high... : Zek
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      Well that's my point - every measure 'may' be indicative of a player's skill and all of the measures are ... : kainen1
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        Every single stat you mentioned besides PSR is biased against support characters. IMO if there's one fix ... : Zek
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          that's a fair point.....what if all these measures are represented by a point value for each game (certai... : kainen1
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            An assist isn't proof of a significant contribution, what if you just follow players around to be involve... : Zek
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              I don't think an assist point given to you for caboosing a gank should be taken a way. You can't measure... : kainen1
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                Exactly, thus the reason why individual stat monitoring will never work. : Zek
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                  you don't know that....every point value is a productive point value given. Take a tower out? Points. ... : kainen1
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                    Except what if you took out a tower/rax at the expense of them taking out your tree of life? Damage pe... : Jimb0v2
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                      You can force your rating down by losing to creep in a single player game. :) : unjustend
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                        except you can't start single player games anymore. You have to have someone on the other team. The gam... : JuffoWup
                        • Good, maybe I'll stop meeting people pwn teams in sub 1400 games. : unjustend
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        PSR isn't a stat you can manipulate in game is what you're misunderstanding. It is a measure based on the... : Xanthos
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          Hang on, first off I understand how PSR works. You don't have to explain what it is supposed to do. : kainen1
          • I think you are shooting from the hips. Games as a whole are most certainly way more balanced with AB ... : Jimb0v2
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    PSR, K/D/A, exp/min are all mostly worthless for determining the skill of a player for two simple reasons : Delusional
    • this is the only valid argument against PSR i've seen. props to delusional for pointing it out. : Xanthos
    • Also included in the game settings umbrella is the characters you play - if you decide to play someone yo... : Zek
    • RIght now It's far too easy to play w/ friends and hide behind their skills and what they can do. I'm thi... : boomstickah
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  I played 2 games of All Random last night. It was a really good time being forced to play a character I ... : unjustend
  • The hardest thing I had to get used to with hellbringer is the whole "you don't need a bottle with this h... : JuffoWup

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  Is masturbation a computer game? Because if so, I've got like 5 hours in today alone. : pres589
  • It's a console game. : shwortdogg
  • The sexbox was designed for you! : tfsbrian
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  Depends on if I'm playing TF2 or not and if there's some engrossing new game out. If none of the above, ... : guido anchovy
  • and/or there's an engrossing new game : guido anchovy
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  by that definition, 99% of the populace has a TV addiction and needs to be sent to the work camps. : filthysock
  • oh fuck i must be addicted to movies because I usually spend 2+ hours watching those :( : pukerat
  • We're all addicted to the internet, TV, and video games! : MagicWishMonkey
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  If I'm not sleeping, eating, or taking a shit, I'm playing a video game. So 12-16 hours probably. : IndigoAK
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    We should have a competition of who can last the longest; me jerking it or you playing games. I put $2... : pres589
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      You can jerk 12 hours a day? You must be one sore motherfucker. : Maddog_Delphi97
      • Callouses. He's got natural ribbing. : DerHuhnTeufel
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    Unless it's a Tuesday, then I'm out shopping. : IndigoAK
    • for more games? : onji
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    why not play video games while you shit? this is exactly the reason why they invented the PSP, DS and IP... : dantastic
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      Because my shits are usually huge and involve lots of grunting, and that means I generally more involved ... : IndigoAK
      • You should get more fiber if you can't play a DS while shitting. : notdeadyeti
    • I did a 167 flight control game when taking a crap, best score I will ever get. : jermm
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    are you 5? how do you have this kind of time : FrayLo
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      I work part-time only two days a week during hours I choose and I have a set monthly income from three di... : IndigoAK
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        I don't see any time in your schedule for having sex with women. :( : pupismyname
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          I've only been on three dates with the girl I'm with, so no sex yet. We've got to the making out part th... : IndigoAK
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            Well next time include that in your schedule so I know whether or not to mock you. : pupismyname
            • They asked for video game time in a typical day. Date nights are not a typical day for me and neither ... : IndigoAK
        • i play video games 0.2 hours per day and i'm not doing that either. : FrayLo
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        any chance any of the 'three different sources' are state and/or federal? : papaskot
        • One of them is, the other is legal related, and the third is inheritance. : IndigoAK
      • Maybe you should increase the number of your therapy appointments... : Bold
• it really depends. some days, none! most days like an hour, maybe 90 minutes. on weekends i can play fo... : EvilDolemite
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  sometimes i wonder what i'd do it one or both of my hands were chopped up in an accident. i wouldn't be ... : dantastic
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    I'd rig up something so I could play with my 2 stumps and my feet somehow. : guido anchovy
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      that'd be impossible. youd be stuck playing shitty wii minigames and using your nose to hit the A button... : dantastic
      • It could work! Patent the idea. : guido anchovy
      • There was a guy at Evo this year who played SF4 with his mouth, Hawking style. : zakk
      • go on... : [7]kami
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    What scares me more about those thoughts is that I'd have no way to shoot myself in the head. : angrytaxman
    • Imagine if you lived in a country without easy access to firearms! : scottythejock
    • could probably lean up against a rifle or shotgun and pull the trigger with your toe : dantastic
  • I'd be out of a job if I couldn't type. : NexusOne
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  By "expert" did they mean "makes shit up as she goes"? : Robotic Puppy Eater
  • What they don't tell you growing up is that is pretty much the definition of expert. : nurglich
• bah, I hate these "experts" and their arbitrary time rates before something gets classified. For examp... : esecasco
• That's nonsense, there are plenty of hobbies you can devote yourself to that occupy more than 2 hours at ... : action wombmate
• Depends on the day. I probably played 8 hours of Burnout Paradise yesterday, but on average I'd say maybe... : pupismyname
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  2-4 probably, though the past few weeks it's been more like 0-2. : Begawkiness
  • It really depends on if a new game is out or not too. The time spent playing REALLY goes up then. : Begawkiness
• I love how "experts" make up arbitrary numbers to diagnose problems. 2 hours a day you're a video game ad... : skinlab133
• According to xfire i've played 24 hours of LOTRO in the past 7 days (but I played over the weekend from m... : trOmblyj
• Depends, the last few months i've been playing around 6-10 hours a day because I've had fuck all else to ... : Mr. Goodwrench
• I average out to about an hour a day during the week. Sometimes less and sometimes more; yesterday I didn... : roushimsx
• If that chick can't do a Super Mario 3 speedrun, she is NOT an expert. : MercFox1
• 1-3 depending on if i work that day or the day after : maulla
• I don't play every day, but if I play during the work week I get about 1-2 hours in. If I get the chance... : Salad Sammich
• These stupid "experts" need to stop saying "addiction" when they really mean "I think they do activity X ... : DinK
• I guess I'm addicted to my full time job then too. : not work safe
• By that standard I have a video game addiction. Poor me. : [7]kami
• I wish I had 2 hours a day to spend playing video games. Yesterday I spent a whole 15 min playing games. ... : voodooraze
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  I wonder how many hours a day she spends being a cunt. Something to ponder. : lplasmatron
  • She might be addicted to being one. : DM7
• Let's see... WoW raid nights is 4½-5 hours or so. Otherwise it's probably 1-4 hours depending what ... : SilverSnake
• She has a promising future on Fox News. : jasoncrowley
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  Ten bucks says she has a vested interest in making video game addiction seem like a significant problem. ... : evildanish
  • Of course she is, there's no other reason for an "expert" to be on radio/tv. : one random winner
• I can quit anytime I want!!! : CapnChaos
• Anywhere between 0 and 4 hours, usually. Occasionally longer on weekends if I don't have anything else go... : Helter Skelter
• And any adult that watches sports more than 2 hours a day has a sports addiction and any adult that reads... : Dynotaku

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  "the graphics are some of the best i've seen. i can't wait for #2! they say the 1st one only utilized 30%... : abrasion
  • Yeah it Is more like 32% : gmd
  • it's easy pickings for non technical folks though : derelict515
  • they probably meant 30% of the cell : Shai-Tan
  • Nah, it means this time the cutscenes won't be pre-rendered :) : SiW.
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    Hah. The first one has videos on the disc with NaughtyDog spouting nonsense about how the game could only... : nudel
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      The girlfriend works for a Sony developer and when I booted up the PS3 after the latest update she was so... : nodebug
      • You mean they are happy they took out the Playstation 3 logo and jingle when booting games? I really don... : irrerno
  • The graphics are the best I've seen on a console. Uncharted 2 has won many awards such as Best Console G... : irrerno
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    Killzone 2 Used 110% Of course, that was 90% of the same bland fucking texture.... : Beady
    • Serious? http://i41.tinypic.com/1gg22v.gif : irrerno
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    Yep, I don't think there's been anything prettier. Utterly jaw dropping visuals and the sequel looks set ... : node
    • Naughty Dog shares their source code with other PS3 developers too. : irrerno
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  I'm glad the second one seems to have much more varied environments (yay snowy area!), I'm just hoping th... : veras
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    Less puzzles, more combat - as per interviews over the last few months - fingers crossed the combat is at... : abrasion
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      That doesn't make sense, the first one was all combat : veras
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        No, not really, a few puzzles and stuff. : abrasion
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          I think you're on PCP so I'm gonna choose to not believe you : veras
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            cool this took 8 seconds to find http://kotaku.com/5342589/uncharted-2-will-be-40-percent-puzzles-60-perc... : veras
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              For fucks, fucking fuck sake all this all over again, jesus. I think gamers are going to notice that it' : abrasion
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                I think he means action in general, not combat : gmd
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                  gmd you used to be my best friend :( : abrasion
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                    you are on crack and will be proven wrong, I will fly to Australia and throw a koala into your cock : gmd
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                      You would totally want to hang out and play PS3 games with me and drink beer, : abrasion
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                        I have a child hood friend over there, I will go visit him in 10 years but I think he is on the otherside... : gmd
                        • we dont talk about the "others" : CoRDS
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                that doesn't mean "more combat" in the context of that interview : veras
                • ok, go find the other ones then - I can't be fucked. : abrasion
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                If they said it was a rollercoaster-ride of excitement would you be complaining about the amount of theme... : 60days
                • Ha! I love this reply. : Bold
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                  I loved the first one but the action was the weakest part - that sums it up basically. : abrasion
                  • *facepalm* : irrerno
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          um no, it was mostly combat : gmd
          • Well now it's going to be more, mostly combat. : abrasion
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      seriously? Fuck that shit. : cltcprd
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        I don't like it either, hopefully the gun play isn't garbage this time. : abrasion
        • If it was true I wouldn't like it either. : irrerno
      • They've said 40% puzzles 60% action. So more puzzles than the first game. Also Uncharted 2 will be a lo... : irrerno
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      I think you just made that up : gmd
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        god, how many times do I have to have to find the quota and have this conversation. : abrasion
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          But I don't think you convinced everyone (anyone?) last time, either. : Bold
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            They've said it multiple times, I honestly don't know what the fuck is wrong with you people - this isn't... : abrasion
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              chill out, it's not that you're not right, it's that people don't trust your word. : Bamtan
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                I know, I am absoloutely incapable of being right about anything, I could say shacknews has a black back... : abrasion
                • shacknews has a white background for me. i use the sfw greasemonkey script. : CoRDS
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              what do you mean "you people?" : pandastrong
              • http://www.shacknews.com/online/ : abrasion
            • http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20858616#itemanchor_20858616 : Bold
            • 'action' in this sense does NOT just mean 'combat'. There were very few high tense action movie moments i... : pancake humper
        • i thought you made it up too if thats any consolation : grendel
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          Probably about as many times as you misinterpret what they say. : Haku-Jin
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            Ok : abrasion
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              They say 60/40 action/platforming, the first game was more like 80/20. : Haku-Jin
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                Ok : abrasion
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                  Fine : Haku-Jin
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                    Wasn't so hard after all! : abrasion
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                      It's because I was being so reasonable. : Haku-Jin
                      • Ok : CrustaR
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                They say that there's more action in this one, so your figures make no sense. : SiW.
                • the first game did not have 40% adventuring. Also the puzzles are a lot better in uncharted 2. This has... : irrerno
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                  I've tried to explain it - it's not the only interview where they've said this either - it's not the numb... : abrasion
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                    You act like focusing on action more means there will be less adventuring. I take it to mean that areas ... : irrerno
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                      Ignore what I think and feel about it that is completely irrelivant, who cares if abrasion is concerned t... : abrasion
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                        You need to stop taking things so literal and realize that things can have an overall meaning. They don't... : pancake humper
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                          Read the other interviews from a couple of months before the one linked in this subthread. : abrasion
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                            I don't have to because I understand completely what they are talking about. I also realize that they are... : pancake humper
                            • Sure thing. : abrasion
                          • Dude, lets play the game then fight about it. : irrerno
                      • I think we need to stop arguing about this until the game comes out and we've played this. Then we will ... : irrerno
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      i hope that's not true and you're just being a negative nancy again : moshman
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        There will be more puzzles in Uncharted 2 and they will be better puzzles than the first game. : irrerno
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          sorry, but forgive me if I don't trust your posts one little bit : moshman
          • Do you trust Kotaku? http://kotaku.com/5342589/uncharted-2-will-be-40-percent-adventure-60-percent-action... : irrerno
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        moshman, I hope it's not true - also it doesn't mean it'll be worse if they up the gameplay from the firs... : abrasion
        • If you indeed have an interview that says the game will have less adventuring I would love to see it. I'... : irrerno
        • We aren't arguing about what they said, we're arguing about how YOU ARE INTERPRETING IT. : pancake humper
    • This whole subthread is like a beer commercial. TASTES | GREAT! LESS | | | FILLING! : jasoncrowley
• hell yeah gorgeous game. highly recommended : bozer
• yeah they left 70% of the "power" on the table : Mansmells
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  What do you mean whats wrong with you? As long as you didn't lose your job I think taking a day off for ... : Lightzout
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    The only problem I see with it, really, is that we just had a 3-day weekend. : Moonbase Commander
    • Except for one dude who had a 4 day weekend, its not like anyone got a lot done today. It was monday on ... : Lightzout
• if it makes you feel any better, I did an all night marathon to finish it too - wasn't expecting that sor... : Borzoi
• the writing is really good, i liked all of the banter! i enjoyed the shootouts and the climbing was fun ... : grendel
• Humans only use 10% of their brains, I bet the rest is for psychic powers and our future mutations. My m : Lunatic Angelic
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  Screw Uncharted, I want a sequel to Policenauts. : Vegtro
  • I think you mean Psychonauts. : MercFox1
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  how come ur not playing dirt 2, its all about mitsubishi lancers and racing just like you are into. : jono181
  • no money to drop on games right now. i played the shit outta the demo though : vassili_zaitsev
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    The menus were cooler than the game. At least from the demo. It felt like racing boats in quicksand, but... : jigstah
    • Yep, that WAS the appeal. I dunno, I tend to prefer tichter racers too, but DiRT2 has something....The fo... : master_disaster_17
• I did the same thing :) One of the few games I played in one sitting because it was so fun (Shadow Co... : d3tached
• Uncharted 2 Wins Game of Show almost every gaming show. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncharted_2#Awards : irrerno