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  Try and silently install it. I double dog dare you to get it to get it installed without sucking. : tsuba
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    I've done it on a corporate network. Sometimes it goes without a hitch. Other times is bitches and moans ... : TrickSh0t
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      QuickTime has got to be the hardest thing to deploy ever. I suspect it is the reason iTunes is so hard : SigENeaT
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        Adobe Flash through SMS. Not easy. : umcpwintermute
        • Well, yeah, the 160 character limit on messaging has got to be a pain. Nevermind that you have to UUEncod... : digital_d
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  Itunes fanboy has arrived. How may i shoot down your troll attempts? : Iwannaacura
  • iPhone!!! : zebosausamite
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    Not every opinion is trolling. : Jobos
    • This one very much is though. Shit, there is a whole class of software that routinely segfaults for cryin... : terath
  • This wasn't a troll attempt, it was a rage post after spending 20 transferring two songs to my iPhone. "... : hussdelrio
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  you must have led a sheltered IT life : RikiTiki2
  • ^^^ Winner! : SketchyFletchy
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  It just works on a mac. : Zombie Vonnegut
  • Pretty clever there guy. : DooBall
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    Hilariously.... yeah, it does. The problem isn't so much itunes on windows, it's Quicktime (which itun... : Toraz Chryx
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      I'm bummed that iTunes 9 will probably not fix this. :( : Yanks
      • Hoping that they will announce something suitably good to merit the 9-9-09 press conference. : sgtsanity
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  I dunno, that AS/400 version of JD Edwards screwed me up kinda bad too. : freqq28
  • oh god, we use that at work. Using it is like going back to the 1980s. : peetabix01
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  The Zune software is equally bad. I was surprised : Modulus
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    Sarcasm, right? :) : TrickSh0t
    • no, I really don't care for either itunes or zune software. : Modulus
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    I have both and I have to say zune is a ton better then itunes. : erebus
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      I agree, the manual tag editor especially in zune is intuitive, auto tagging and album art is good too. ... : threeup
      • oh, and on the same token, i HATE manual tag editing in itunes, album art is decent, navigation is decent... : threeup
  • You'd be surprised to know that you're actually quite wrong about the Zune software. Never had a single p... : ateam311
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  Do you have a goatee or a ponytail / long hair? : not work safe
  • None of the above : hussdelrio
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  I'll put $20 on black jeans. : Danny5225
  • Nope, no black jeans either. : hussdelrio
• I used to hate itunes. Then I discovered iTunes+iPhone+someiDock+iRemoteIPhoneApp. : Skoal^Fyfan
• Peachtree Accounting software, ADP, two off the top of my head much worse : bozer
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  You've never used HP Open View or Adobe products then. : abrasion
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    Fuck Adobe products. Fuck them to hell. : Whistler77
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      OMG! Trying to slipstream Acrobat Pro .msp patch files into an administrative installation? THE HORROR! : TrickSh0t
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        I'd rather do this than QuickTime : SigENeaT
        • I actually got QuickTime installs to go through with 100% success using GPO installs. If you're intereste... : TrickSh0t
  • Actually I have extensively used HP Open View (and recently upgraded to HP Operations Manager)...it was a... : hussdelrio
• www.getsharepod.com : beastrabban
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  Adobe Acrobat is up there. : Ride-My-Rocket
  • fuck yeah it is : royalally
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  Songbird FTW : NFXFSX
  • I love it except for its lack of podcast support. : Whistler77
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  I bought a couple of albums through iTunes on my phone, when I synced with my laptop it deleted all of th... : socksta
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    I don't want to give iTunes anymore of my money to test this but I don't believe there is even an option ... : socksta
    • TLDR; iTunes can go fuck themselves in the ear. : socksta
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      This is false. I don't know what caused that to happen for you but I've bought music on my phone a number... : tfboc
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        I did this about the first week they added iTunes to the iPhone maybe they patched it but my music is gon... : socksta
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          click on "transfer purcahses" : CoRDS
          • ^^^ This guy reads his prompts instead of blindly clicking away. Who does that? How silly! : SketchyFletchy
  • Weird, I bought a song through my iPhone, and it doesn't appear on my iTunes list, yet it remains in my s... : bling1bling
  • I just purchased the new Sleepthief album on my phone, synced it to my computer and it's in both places n... : Snif DeCrac
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    I put music on my ipod at work. I come home and try to transfer it to my pc here and I can't. I fucking c... : bozer
    • I didn't realize there was such a large disparity in freedom between different MPEG audio coding standard... : vigilante
    • I'm confused? If want to burn the songs to disc why would you need to convert to MP3? : pap26
    • You can't copy music off iPods because it promotes piracy. This is how it's been for years, Apple is stil... : SketchyFletchy
    • AAC isn't from Apple, its basically mp4 audio. : flooq
  • this is why i buy cds : eeeealmo
  • I've ran into this problem as well. Luckily I have everything backed up on my pc, laptop, external, nan... : Darthbrooks
• that's why i only install it at work and leave my home pc clean : grabbie
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  Winamp it really whips itunes ass : melkore
  • Yeah but Winamp uses those faggy 3d cursors and I have to go digging around for how to turn them off... g... : snuff
  • it whips itunes' ass in doing almost nothing that itunes does but play audio files : Yanks
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    I still love WinAmp on PC. I'd use it on Mac if it existed, but iTunes kinda killed all competition on Ma... : node
    • VLC is about as good as it gets for a light mp3 player on OSX, I think. Which is better than nothing, bu... : pres589
• there's also quicktime : [fry]
• Lotus Notes gives it a run for its money. : biskits
• i used to think that until i learned its quirks now its pretty easy to use. import playlist, drag to devi... : podizzle
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  It IS really laggy on PC. : bolneze
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    While it is worse in Windows, it's not very snappy on my Mac side either... mac pro quad core. : Wheatloaf
    • Weird, iTunes is perfectly snappy on my MacBook C2D 2.4 w/ 4gb RAM and a fresh 10.6 install. That said... : rudds
    • Uhhh, whut? Runs crazy fast on my Mac Pro. 46GB worth of music, all fully tagged and album art loaded. : SketchyFletchy
    • snappy as hell macbook pro c2d 2.53 : cdbeckman
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    I think he is talking about the design of it : gyokuro
    • I'm talking about just about everything - from its pseudo-malware secret installs of bonjour/apple update... : hussdelrio
• http://www.shacknews.com/search.x?type=comments&terms=itunes&cs_user=thekidd&cs_parentauthor=&s_type=all : thekidd
• I kind of like it. : pres589
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  seriously? I mean, I'm not fan of iTunes, but that better be a lot of hyperbole or your 13 years in the I... : halophoenix
  • Don't get me wrong, I've dealt with some MAJOR pain in the ass software suites in large-scale deployments... : hussdelrio
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  I love itunes mac side. I was not a fan when using it windows side, however. It makes so much more sens... : SolrFlare
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    This. It's fine on Macs, but sucks on Windows. I wonder why? : Fenring42
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      Two factors I think:
      
      1) In order to get iTunes in its current implementation to behave the same Windows and OS X side, it requires a large number of services and kernel level drivers. Combined with its Carbon base, this makes itunes very susceptible to getting hosed/running poorly. All it takes is on piece in the house of cards it sits on to mess up and the whole thing goes screwy.
      
      2) iTunes, in its current state, is designed around being your system's central repository of all things music and video. In this respect it works very well on the Mac side of things. However, on the Windows side, it's just another player that also happens to be the only way to sync your ipod/iphone/apple TV. This nullifies the advantages of its current design and instead makes it more of a burden to use.
      
      What Apple is going to have to do is either change the design of itunes as a whole to make its experience translate better onto the windows side, and/or change itunes into more of a syncing/store platform for windows users instead of trying to force it to be the only player you use. Until one or both of these are done, it'll probably remain a rough ride windows side. I'm hopeful the next iteration(or version after next) of itunes for you windows guys translates into a better experience.

      Sep 01, 2009 9:59pm PDT
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      Two factors I think: 1) In order to get iTunes in its current implementation to behave the same Window... : SolrFlare
      • That was sarcasm. : Fenring42
      • Apple doesn't want to fix Windows issues when they can just say, "hey buy a Mac" and people do. : hussdelrio
• Acrobat, Shockwave, Flash, Java, iTunes... oh wait we don't support that since there isn't any business r... : trove
• I have no issues with it! Works great, though the interface can sometimes take a second or so to update a... : aggressor
• http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20720659#itemanchor_20720659 : mysled
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  MediaMonkey FTW : watcherxp
  • Abso-fucking-lutely. : PlanetPerfecto
  • Yep. MM is great. : zipr
• Fucking thing sucks : Godhatesfatpeople
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  Rumors of iTunes 9 releasing on 9/9. I don't know how much faith in these rumors I believe, but supposed... : Tripps
  • Well, it's one of three apps remaining mac side that are not 64 bit cocoa based now that is included with... : SolrFlare
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    I am very doubtful of this because if it were 64bit it would require the use of QTKit/QTX and I just don'... : Yanks
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      Actually, it could. You see Quicktime X doesn't just use it's 64bit component. It uses it's 64bit compo... : SolrFlare
      • Pretty sure Yanks knows that. : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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        I think though you're underestimating the range of functionality needed for something like iTunes that QT... : Yanks
        • Oh I agree it's more complex than that, but it is still feasable. The real question will be how much time... : SolrFlare
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      I used to really dislike Quicktime, but then I read that ArsTechnica article that explained how fucking s... : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
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        'parse' is a strong word -- because MOOVs are all atom based there are potentially a number of tracks thr... : Yanks
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          I take that back, I guess that was actually an untrue statement -- just opened a run of the mill CBR file... : Yanks
          • Also since we're talking about this I want to say that I am so, so glad that we're throwing away the crap... : Yanks
  • There will be a new version of iTunes next week. : -sk-
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    Probably won't run on 10.4 PPC then... which means I'll be stuck on 8 for a while, since I share tunes to... : pres589
    • I'd expect them to have a PPC and an Intel version and for the Intel version to be 64-bit. At the moment,... : BlackCat9
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  I was thinking about thie the other day. It is quite had but I have seen worst. Also it is by far the bes... : davidc02
  • I like the play count thing also. : davidc02
• I haven't had a problem with it for years since I stopped fighting it and just used it. (Well, now I do h... : rosewood
• I dont mind the design and like a lot of the functionality but seriously, the application is painful to u... : trevis
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  it's on par with real player and quicktime imo : arizona bay
  • nevermind, i change my answer. flash is the worst. : arizona bay
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  I'm convinced that Apple only writes PC software to perpetuate the stereotype of PCs sucking. What other ... : Gnowknayme
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    Anything that installs drivers which iTunes does for iPhone/iPod support : Yanks
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      It is 2009, you can install drivers w/o a reboot. You can even update your video card drivers w/o a reboo... : rosewood
      • Yes, but, as I understand it, kernel level drivers(like itunes' drivers) need windows 7 and support for i... : SolrFlare
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        Yeah, I nearly shit myself when Windows 7 didn't ask to reboot for new nVidia drivers. : node
        • Vista can do this if you use windows update for drivers. : Beady
    • I install my ATI drivers without a reboot. : Pettytheft
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  never used lotus notes? : moshman
  • ^^ He's right, as much as iTunes sucks, lotus is so much worse in every way. : devi| dog
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    i like lotus/domino :-( : eyegeegeewhy
    • you're not serious are you? I have to use it every damn day and it drives me crazy with it's non-complian... : moshman
    • get the fuck off my planet! : Toraz Chryx
• It's truly terrible, but you have had it easy for 13 years if it's your #1 enemy. : brewsterdog
• Clearly a very sheltered 13 years. : terath
• I don't think it's the worst software on the planet. It's just the worst software bearing the apple trade... : stuka
• I completely agree. I have no idea what happened given the rest of Apple's products, but iTunes is defini... : DerHuhnTeufel
• I don't know what happened to it. WHen it first came out it was nice. I loved it. After version 4 it went... : Pettytheft
• Sligh hi-jack Whats the best program to get stuff off my ipod ? : Vincenoir
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  No, Outlook is pretty much the most horrible piece of screaming bloated horrible cludgy slow ugly stupid ... : node
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    Dude, Outlook isn't even playing the same GAME as Lotus Notes, let alone being in the wrong ballpark. ... : Toraz Chryx
    • Yes Lotus Notes is very very high up on the list. But iTunes is such a PITA that I don't even want to LO... : hussdelrio
• I don't understand why it's so sucking slow in Windows 7. It was ok in windows XP with the same hardware ... : razlebol
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  Yes... Yes it is For some reason it's not letting me add certain mp3's to my library. Mp3's that worke... : shavenewok
  • apparently i have to go through each mp3 in foobar and rebuild the stream :( : shavenewok
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  if iTunes is used as intended then it is more then fine. Its only when you try and go out side the box t... : topkatz
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    "using as intended" has nothing to do with it being bloated and sluggish software : maulla
    • I dont know, I mean lets review what it does. Media organization and management. iPhone synch, backup... : topkatz