Evening Reading

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• Shadow Complex is probably the best hot single player game right now. : Lunatic Angelic
• Lost Odyssey is probably the best JRPG on the 360, but it's not a great game. At $15 it's definitely wor... : Perturbation
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  buying xboxlive is way better than any game you could buy. Back me up on this please. : gyokuro
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    I'm sorry, I cannot. Paying for multiplayer access is a total rip-off and asinine. Not to mention that ... : wytefang
    • i actually never play the xbox unless my friends are playing. games i've had alot of fun on include: Halo... : gyokuro
    • So wrong. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • just about all my fun out of too human came from playing coop with friends. SP was kind of boring : dantastic
• You get a free month of Xbox Live with the system, so don't let that stop you. : pyide
• get batman : aa you wont be dissapointed : bagelcc
• Try the Gears games if you haven't. They're fun and show off what the 360 can do pretty well. : Shadsy
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  dead rising or crackdown : .Jayson
  • Crackdown is way more fun with two players though. Seeing your buddy firing at something and then killin : Lunatic Angelic
• Shadow Complex or Crackdown are both great and cheap. : c_man_tmt
• cool, will get crackdown. : barichnikov
• Fallout 3 should be cheap by now, but I'd recommend you wait a month, then buy the new game of the year e... : DialDforDan
• Force Unleashed 15 Mirror's Edge 15 : VictoriouSecret
• Shadow complex. $15 Greatest XBLA yet. Also check out Gears of War 1 and 2 if you like shooters. Some fou... : imcompa
• don't do it, you want to end up like this? http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20781369#itemanchor_207813... : therd3ye

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  Drake's Fortune! : VictoriouSecret
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    Is Drake's Fortune Uncharted under the Great Hits/Games section? That's why I bought MGS4 without the ugl... : Darkfox76
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      I don't think Uncharted is a Greatest Hits yet. Both Resistance titles are solid FPS games, though its... : f4lln
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        I totally forgot about Tools of Destruction, big fan of Insomniac so I'll pick that one up. I might hold ... : Darkfox76
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          Warhawk suppose to be good as well. I haven't played it other than the demo myself, I was worried with it... : f4lln
          • Oh, and Folklore is a fun, short, but sweet, little RPG exclusive to PS3. Its more of a bargain bin title... : f4lln
• Uncharted became a greatest hit not too long ago, about a week ago. : f1kt1t1ous
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  on the PSN , FLOWER is quite unique and relaxing. : lordkosc
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    Agreed. Rag Doll Kung Fu was free for a while too. Might still be. : TrickSh0t
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      RDKF is no longer free.. sadly, it was a Sprint promotion that lasted about a week. Oddly enough, I found... : f1kt1t1ous
      • Just got Fat Princess last night. Vicious little fucking game. I like it. : TrickSh0t

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  I thought of this as well. I then decided that it didn't matter. It's a good game regardless of whether... : djustifier
  • Actually, it gained additional appeal to me because of it. : zipper76
• LOTS of references to that in the game, including Bain breaking Batman's spine. Uses it as past-tense, bu : VictoriouSecret
• There are a lot of references to Knightfall as well as this graphic novel: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A... : The Grolar Bear

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• Decent game. Good gameplay, great environments, but it's totally stupid how many times you need to shoot... : foo
• damn. I never made it that far. Kept getting stuck due to doors not opening and blocking progression. : malloc
• I love that moment. What a great game. : cdbeckman
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  You've made it that far and you're still enjoying it? Welcome to group man. Current members are me, ma... : Drewus
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    ...and me. :) : warcrow
    • ^And him : Drewus
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    i enjoyed it, but the game certainly lost something along the way. I'd almost say that my favorite part w... : grifter
    • The constantly respawning checkpoints are bit of a joke, especially when it's only been a few minutes and... : pyide
  • Me! fuck yeah! I went back and played it on a harder difficulty after I beat it :D : cdbeckman
  • I didn't get that far but I really liked what I played, I think something else came out and I got distrac... : abrasion
  • me me me me me. : aaarrrgh
  • You are mistaken sir. I have been at all the FC2 Anonymous meetings. : moe6
  • Me too. :D FC2 is probably my favorite game from last year. : freshyk
  • Count me in. : thejm4n
  • Me too! : pwnage1232
  • RIGHT HERE BABY : eeeealmo
  • Flawed genius. : DialDforDan
  • ...and me as well! : FirstPersonCooter
  • I put it in my top 3 favorite games of last year : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • hey guys whats up : Arceihn
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  fyi, the buddy missions you get from the bar don't really give you anything. : grifter
  • See, I saw it more as actually making friends and helping people, and I enjoyed them. I never really worr... : cdbeckman
  • That's true, I did a few. I assume you can still go back and do the tower/assassination ones? : pyide
  • the ones they give you as an alternate way of diong the main missions are always worth doing just for add : dantastic
• I've beaten Far Cry 2 twice now and I still can't decide if I like the game. Sometimes I have a lot of f... : VaultThirteen
• Finish the side missions before the last mission (you'll know which one), you can't go back. : Fenring42
• A great game marred by shitty AI, especially considering how bad the stealthy approach fails to work most... : Tech T
• dont worry about the side missions. they're mostly the same and are just a way to get some extra cash fo... : dantastic

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  I was starting to worry when Indiana survived an atomic bomb test by getting into a fridge and being eje : Drewus
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    Aaah yes, my wife and I looked at each other like "was he this durable in the previous movies?" Yea that... : warcrow
    • he's always been durable, i think particularly in temple of doom he gets it the worst. but it's always be... : peat
  • Some of the stuff that happened would have been okay if they hadn't just dialed it up into insanity. : FlatlineDixay
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    i was kinda worried when indy rode an inflatable raft as a parachute out of a plane and down a waterfall ... : dantastic
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      also wtf they open the ARK OF THE COVENANT and ghosts come out and melt people faces but he survives beca... : dantastic
      • Uh oh, here comes Mr. Serious to ruin everybody's fun, GOSH : FlatlineDixay
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  The swordfighting on top of moving trucks going through the jungle with monkeys attacking nazis was the a... : bozer
  • Yea that was pretty ridiculous. : warcrow
  • That scene was an abomination. I laughed out loud in the theater when Shia started swinging from vines. : Head Rush
• Everything mentioned by others certainly had me rolling my eyes ... but the ending make me wretch. I went... : TrickSh0t

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  I've had fun playing Vanguard, which is sort of a mix between caster and soldier. : taronish
  • this is the one i went with. at one point you start playing the game like a shooting gallery because bet... : dantastic
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  Basically all the classes are fun (but yeah, you might want to go for one of the Biotic classes), gender ... : AlexW1203
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    Adept is damn good. You can still level up Pistol skill if you want to shoot things, and pistols aren't ... : finger
    • vanguards use pistols and shotguns, not assault rifles : dantastic
  • BTW, you will miss almost nothing if your main character has neither Electronics or Decryption. Off the ... : finger
• Yes you can fuck a female alien even if you play female : OverloadUT
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  I did Vanguard and it was really good. : Yanks
  • Is it like a close rnage battle Mage sort of style?sounds fun I'll do it. : SqueegyTBS

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  OS X-2 : MamiyaOtaru
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    We know how X-2's work out. Not good. : zakazi
    • you shut your whore mouth >:( that game was fun : creep
  • os2-X : sludge vohaul
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  After Mac OS 10.9.12. : Lone Swordsman
  • Would get kinda nuts if we got like 10.34 haha : DogDharma
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  It goes up to eleven! : Dave-A
  • lol, i watched that film for the first time last week. fucking hilarious! : hankyJR
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    It has a super-secret 34-bit mode! : drazz
    • And everyone will complain when their computer doesn't work with it, despite the fact that it does nothin... : ovrlrd
• oh of course. how could they possibly resist. the tag line would be awesome. : vigilante
• I vote for OSX Warp : crotchbat
• OSEX : voodooraze
• OS 20XX : Link.
• The next one will be a MMO. : Helter Skelter
• Snow Itinerant Leprechaun : g.lee
• No it resets like the matrix. : massdev
• OS XXX : Mad Brahmin Disease
• xxX[OS]Xxx : finger
• OS Xtreme? : DarthStank

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  how about you don't worry about 100% completion and just move on with your life : dirge23
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    k : pancake humper
    • 0wned!!! : CrustaR
• I don't mind that (actually if it were up to me I would encourage those types of challenges), it just mea... : qwpeoriu
• The last 2 combat challenges are so friggen hard. For Shock and Awe you basically have to be perfect o... : boredguy
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  I found another stupid thing - if you shut off the console during the retry screen, your saves will disap... : jingletard
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    You didn't hold down Reset while pressing the Power button?! : Grumbeld
    • fucking lol : Juno
    • Wha? I held down the guide button during the retry/exit screen and shut off the console that way. : jingletard
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  I think I just suck, but I cannot get a 40 combo going, I hit 35 and it resets instantly, is there a tric... : Derringer
  • *at 34. I hate my typos :/ : Derringer
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    I actually got this completely by accident fighting some guys outdoors (I believe) during the campaign. A : NoCopy
    • That section is where I ended up getting the achievement. There are so many guys and it's such close qua... : Lionhart32935
    • I fully realize about the knife/baton guys and I even though I beat up the party guys I didn't even think... : Derringer
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  If you want 100% completion, it stands to reason that you should complete 100% of the game you silly goos... : Alice O'Connor
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    i got 100% in an exam once despite skipping a part. : Klebold
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      And that's socialist education for you >:| : Alice O'Connor
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        what are you talking about? i paid good money for that mark. : Klebold
        • marksist? : VictoriouSecret
  • Have you ever been goosed? : MoreVespeneGas
• So you want to get 100% completion without actually completing 100% of the the game? : Arcanum

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  no one plays a shammie here? : RogerDandy
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    I use one to dry my car. : opengl128
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      You wouldn't believe the number of characters I've run into with names that play off "Shamwow" : Home Nugget
      • I prefer the slap chop. We're going to make america skinny one slap at a time. : RogerDandy
      • I like Oprahwindfury : fathertime
      • I've got a 50 named Shammatime. : squigiliwams
      • Shammatime : wurt
• Totems: wrath of air, totem of wrath, the other two depend on group makeup. If there's another shaman pr... : lordlobo
• Flame Shock if not up, Lava Burst if not on CD, else Lightning Bolt and Magma Totem if possible. : Marrbe
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  Before I'd quit I was a full-on Ele shaman. I started WotLK with the standard rotation, FS-LvB, LB LB LB ... : eskimo spy
  • I agree with your last statement. I definitely think Blizzard is spending too much time making the gamepl... : FlatlineDixay
  • ^ this speaks the truth. In many cases a simplified rotation is worthwhile to help with situational aware... : zigzag
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  Read here: http://elitistjerks.com/f79/ : acidnynex
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    Emphasis on read, not post. : tedv
    • If the shaman moderator is anything like the DK moderator then he could post gibberish without any reperc... : acidnynex

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• i'm enjoying the demo on xbl. play it quite a bit. if ur on xbox live feel free to add me and i'd be happ... : purekillforce
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  I love the slower pace. It's beautiful. But unfortunately I have a feeling this game is going to flop onc... : Shadsy
  • The biggest problem with this game is it's amazingly overwhelming at first. I know some people found Quak... : Patakreps
• everytime i see this it kind of doesn't look original at all, I don't know, nothing about it pulled me in... : imcompa

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  Wow. How bad is DJ Hero anyway..... : SirX
  • Surprisingly good and fun actually, especially with a friend on guitar. : VictoriouSecret
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  just like Final Destination! : Korban
  • hahai was thinking the same thing : grabbie
• Don't do drugs, mmmmmkay. : ra1n
• * C H A R L I E ' D * : steelsamurai
• They should make his avatar a zombie. : voodooraze
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  They call him DJ PM now. : wytefang
  • PM = Post Mortem Get it. Haha. : wytefang
  • We'll give you half credit. : DialDforDan
• who? : jarek99
• a DJ? fuck man how are they ever gonna find a replacement for him? : mega man

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  Did they set a date? I'm still hoping it's Halo 2. I've played Halo 1, and I own Halo 3, but I want to pl... : Bold
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    I think I read end of August on some Danish site a while back. Yep, I hope so too @ Halo 2. It would be ... : humbleone
    • I'm in no hurry for Halo 2 (and then Halo 3). I'm in the middle of Mass Effect, and then I have Bioshock ... : Bold
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    But it's only on one disc. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • Right, but I'd have to take out, say, "Rock Band 2", and pop in Halo 2. It'd be easier to just launch it ... : Bold
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    If the rumors are true about Halo 2 being the reason you can't have more than 100 friends, I hope they de... : Deathlove
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      major nelson and e squashed that rumour on their podcast : dantastic
      • your factual denial will not stop me from raging against halo 2 : Deathlove
  • I'm in the same boat. I bought Halo 3 when I first got my 360 but never played Halo 2. I really don't lik... : nunami
• wish they somehow made voodoo vince compatable. :\ : baron calamity

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  Hopefully the vikings : tfsbrian
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    Ah, a whiny disgruntled Packer fan, no doubt. They're always crawling around somewhere - pick up a rock ... : wytefang
    • tell us how you really feel : jarek99
• in the middle of my draft now. So far I ahve: M Jones Drew Andrew Johnson Pierre Thomas Roddy White... : FormerHPB
• Berbatov; he's utter shite. : massdev

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  I thought they were broken up for years? : JT
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    nah, only the brothers fighting... bunch of divas : shakybonez31
    • the 2008 cd is pretty good actually. dig out your soul - as an oasis fan I am fine with that being the ... : threeup
• wow...definitely not done through a publicist. : byorn
• That's too bad. They'd been largely irrelevant for a while now, but the latest albums were of a consisten... : sonicdeathwalrus
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  It's a recurring theme. When Noel needs more money to shoot up, he'll magically tolerate Liam again. : ra1n
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    This could be why i was so surprised to hear it *now*. I thought it had happened already. Maybe it did,... : MamiyaOtaru
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      It has definitely happened before. : ra1n
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        a few times, iirc, but i think around 2004 it was the "final, end all" breakup... and that lasted about a... : pharom
        • I think that was more like 2001. Oasis have been around since 1993. Time flies doesn't it? : TwiLyght
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  that's fucking bullshit : fsck
  • for people who bought tickets expecting to see them. dick move : MamiyaOtaru
• they were still together? : RikiTiki2
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  don't look back in anger : mnsnota
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    I heard you say : Postal
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      But don't go away : drbriefs
      • Today is gonna be the day : Ride-My-Rocket
• *shakes head* Drama queens. : suicidemachine
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  are any of their cds as good as "What's the story?"? : eeeealmo
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    Definitely Maybe : doctorbfunk
    • Yes, but which ones? : heartsauce
  • I really liked SoTSoG, and also a few newer singles like "Pass me down the Wine" and "The Importance of B... : PlanetPerfecto
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  You all everybody! : rossimo
  • what a horrible song : ashkie
  • lol : indosauros
  • charleh bit me : Bamtan
• Their last album was their first album I liked. Go figure... : Practix
• As long as Noel keeps making music. He doesn't need Liam. : doctorbfunk
• Brooks and Dunn Broke up. WTF? : DialDforDan
• i guess they finally got tired of sucking. : jarek99

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  Have you tried not mousing over it? </mod> : d fluke
  • Seriously though, do you actually have it on the front page? I don't (anymore at least), just on article ... : d fluke
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    It's so not that easy, yours is the first response I've read and I'll bet money people are agreeing with... : abrasion
    • What share button? I am being sincere. I can't see what you are referring to. Can you be more specific... : Lightzout
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  which + SHARE button are you talking about? (cuz i don't know) : Demius
  • http://members.iinet.net.au/~scottylans/share.jpg : abrasion
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  What are you talking about? I don't speak Australian. I check the front page at least twice a day and I... : dognose
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    http://www.shackpics.com/files/Picture1_cozlazvnqhfx5zp50tjk.png : DrWaffles
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      Ugh. I hate those on any site. : prime8
      • Yeah, lame "Web 2.0" bullshit feature, imho. : code-e255
      • yes. kill that crap. : cerealSAM2
    • i don't see them on my browser.. but i don't have all my plugins installed :( : Demius
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      It's the way it pops up, I understand why it's there and hell some people might use it but it's so intrus... : abrasion
      • not as bad as the McDonald's ad. I want to shoot my brains out when I accidently roll over it. : Scotty22
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  Those aren't even on the front page though, you'll only ever see them if you click into a story's page, s... : Xevo
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    Ahh thanks. I thought I was trippin : dognose
    • I only dug into this nonsense further thanks to your post. : Xevo
  • You're right, sorry poor wording - however I do click in to the stories and when I do that thing drives m... : abrasion
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  Man, you bitch about so much inane bullshit it's a wonder you make it through the day. : Helter Skelter
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    Yep, I'm the only one who has ever complained about the stupid box here, just me - honest, no one else ha... : abrasion
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      I never said you were, I was just commenting on your propensity for pitching a fit over trivialities. : Helter Skelter
      • Yes, very nice - I think you're clever now and that's what's important. : abrasion
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  If it's that big a deal, consider a greasemonkey script. : crummynz
  • I like a fast browser, Greasemonkey and fast browser don't fit in the same sentence. It only bugs me occ... : abrasion

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• Should be fine... : etherboy
• They'd better be, because I've been doing it for years. : mafu5150
• Yup. As long as the plugs are the same on both ends, you're good. : Arcanum
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  It's an industry standard: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEC_connector#C13_and_C14_connectors : the archvile
  • aka the Jug Plug. : thecray
• YYYYYYYYYYYup. : IHATEDUST
• http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10228 : Ride-My-Rocket

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  You're just going to have to suck it up and buy one of Intel's 32nm SSD drives. Those are the ones that s... : Dr_Cube
  • Not right now they don't :/ : abrasion
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  The OCZ drives are going through firmware revisions and beta firmware revisions far too quickly, I would ... : abrasion
  • Are the revisions mostly for speed related issues or stability issues? I'm fine with having to deal with... : cetra00
• OCZ has too many models, seriously. : baconisgod
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  http://www.anandtech.com/storage/showdoc.aspx?i=3531&p=31 TLDR: "If you want price/performance, the [O : Ride-My-Rocket
  • I don't think the Intels support TRIM right now, but Intel is expected to release a firmware update aroun... : Ride-My-Rocket

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  blame corporate developers. : jwnin
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    yup we have IE6 at work due to some old webapps that won't work on anything else. :( : Shadowdane
    • These are probably what's going on here too. : RogerDandy
  • ^^ legacy software. IE breaks a lot of shit w/ legacy apps. I wish all legacy apps were virtualized, ... : goatjc
• Internal web apps that were coded for IE6, most likely. : bipolar
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  because our SMS is broken and I don't feel like fixing it until we get our shit virtualized :) ie I'm laz... : vov1n
  • Hey vov1n what's up man? I smoked a ton of cigars recently the wife and kid are outta town hehe. : RogerDandy
• It heavily depends on the applications in use in the company. My company is global and we've found at le... : Q-ball

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  My thoughts on skate - I remember having a bunch of fun playing this game when it first came out. The ... : cornchak
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    All of my ragequit frustration was alleviated in skate2. Skate 2 is amazing. Those video challenges a... : kingdepork
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      Oh shit. I forgot about the burning, seething rage I felt trying to get my dude to just the right spot a : cornchak
      • I even tried to go back to skate 1 to see if i was being some newb pussy after mastering skate 2. It fel... : kingdepork
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  Please help me pick my next game - As usual please pick one, and only one, game from the following lis... : cornchak
  • I like to get shitty things out of the way first so I'd recommend Everblue 2. : PointlesS76
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    Viva Pinata. : Lone Swordsman
    • I vote for this as well. : Galadriel07
  • Jak 3! Great game. : legsbrogan
  • Contra: Shattered Soldier. Some great memories with this one : grabbie
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    Maximo vs Army of Zin! Loved that game. : blearey
    • Seconded : Grumbeld
  • Rygar : noodleboy723
  • wow, I really can't suggest any of those. =( : zakazi
  • Jak 3 : Cowburn199
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    I'd probably play Jak3, but personally, as I've said, I'd scrap this list and start over. : IHATEDUST
    • I can't man. My task is to beat every game on this list before I buy any others. And the damned fall/wi... : cornchak
  • Jak Fucking Three : roushimsx
  • Jak 3 because I always vote for it : sm00v3d
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    all these games suck : aeg1x
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      No way. Some of these games are going to be sweet. : cornchak
      • Jak 3 is pretty rad and Kya is not a bad game at all. The voice acting fucking blows from on high and the... : roushimsx
  • Castlevania Curse of Darkness : megarust32
  • As much as I want to say Viva Pinata: TIP, I remember having a ton of fun with Jak 3 from start to finish : rudds
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    Dark Cloud, then Jack 3. : BoKnows
    • Jak : BoKnows
  • Jak 3 : tfsbrian
  • Rygar : Ride-My-Rocket

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  is this still not out for the PS3? why? : dirge23
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    You must mean XBLA, : Mad Brahmin Disease
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      either really, but i thought PS3 was supposed to happen like a month ago : dirge23
      • They said end of July. Now it's end of August. Who can say? : rudds
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      it was touted for the PS3 heavily, i dont recall any mention of XBLA. : Klebold
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        they mentioned a different studio doing a 360 port which would be released much later, but from what I re... : pyide
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          performance issues i shall guess. I had poor performance on this computer (despite being good on crysis) : Klebold
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            I only had poor performance in the demo with 4xAA or above enabled. Or maybe it was any AA at all. The ga... : pyide
            • I ran it on a kind of low-end computer (my htpc, using 360 controllers) but I had this same thing. At 72... : DinK
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  Trine is such a fucking brilliant game, seriously. I haven't had this much fun with a platformer in years... : Arctic Fox
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    have you tried playing it coop? For me, playing Trine was about being pesky wizard conjuring boxes to pis... : Klebold
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      No, but now that you mention this I might try :P : Arctic Fox
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        You know the last level? that was me pretty much. : Klebold
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          hahahaha nice. And Arctic Fox I told you to get Trine months ago you son of a bitch. : RogerDandy
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            I'm a poor suffering postdoc, I had to wait for it to go on a Steam sale : Arctic Fox
            • You are forgiven! : RogerDandy

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• tie me up, tie me down : sethmarc
• In Diana Jones and the Temple of Poon : Dave-A
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  The only thing which even comes to mind is the scene in Mullholand Dr - I didn't expect it to happen and ... : abrasion
  • haha yeah. Watching that with my parents was somewhat uncomfortable :[ : Perturbation
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  Short Bus It's Canadian. It's got loads of sex. With a point kinda. It's not a porn. : RogerDandy
  • Also the incredible lightness of being. : RogerDandy
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    I heard about this yesterday. How it's strangely almost non-erotic. : zakazi
    • Yea it's pretty upfront. : RogerDandy
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  Irreversible is very sexy and erotic : xsii
  • no... : massdev
• Breathless : ass-street
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  Happy Together : bipolar
  • looks like there's a couple by this name, I'm talking about the Wong Kar Wei film : bipolar
• haha, 9 songs was basically a dressed up porno : qwpeoriu
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  The Lover - whatever happened to Jane March? : Porkasaurus
  • The Lover was pretty good... OMG those tits : Prototype

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• ok lets play : sanchez
• awwww yeeaaahh : mysled
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  Good Games everyone. : thecatinthehat
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    No Mercy is really the best campaign : sanchez
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      I like Death Toll more but No Mercy is a close second. Dead Air and Blood Harvest have broken endings. : thecatinthehat
      • The last level in Blood Harvest is tedious. : Ride-My-Rocket
• ggs all : RetroRedEyeJr

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  their website is pretty crappy looking. : ass-street
  • Don't be such a snob. It looks OK to me. : vx2o
  • They spent all their funds on making the cloak badass as hell. : CrustaR
  • why do they link to so many PDF files instead of just having a regular web page with all of the same info... : valael

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• Fable 3 bundle? : Zombie Vonnegut
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  Yeah that's not a surprise at all, in fact I would have been surprised if that hadn't happened. What I ca... : qwpeoriu
  • it was a strategic move. Its not like people were on the sidelines cause the xbox was $400 like they were... : gyokuro
• I agree with their last point the most. Xbox already has a lot of sales and most were just waiting for t... : Lionhart32935
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  if they had been priced this way when they both came out i would have gone ps3 all the way. : mega man
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    You'd still only have like 6 games worth playing though. : Lunatic Angelic
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      Excluding the downloadable stuff, the majority of games are cross platform nowadays, and most of the game... : qwpeoriu
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        You say the performance is pretty close, but haven't we seen over the past few months that the X360's gra : Lunatic Angelic
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          games specifically designed for the ps3 look amazing : gmd
          • Sure, but can't we also say that developers are specifically going away from that? I like Drake, Motorst : Lunatic Angelic
          • I think the PS3 does have the graphical edge. It just looks sharper on my TV for some reason. But who's t... : bozer
        • Look at batman, looks great and exactly the same on both systems. It's all about what the devs are willi... : DogDharma
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          I think the opposite is happening, that over time the performance gap the 360 had over the PS3 is closing... : qwpeoriu
          • What about MGS4. Best looking game this gen so far. : DogDharma
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        The thing is if you care at all about playing multiplayer, the 360 is still the much better choice. : cltcprd
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          True, plus the PS3's controller sucks haha. I really think the controller is the main reason I get all... : qwpeoriu
          • The controller really does suck donkey balls :( My PS3 is a glorified Media Player 99% of the time. : cltcprd
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          Yes. My posy below elaborates on this a bit more. I think this is what Sony failed to realize and they ha... : bozer
          • *post : bozer
• People could always buy a pro, arcade, whatever before - so this 360 price drop isn't really a big deal u... : abrasion
• More people already have a 360 so they don't need to buy another one. What it comes down to for me and pr... : bozer

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  it's morning dude morning. : RogerDandy
  • it's 3pm here now! : Hattoriandy
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  buy the Orange Box! (HL2, HL2: EP 1&2, PORTAL, TF2) : niceguynick
  • cheers will look into them : Hattoriandy
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    Yes. This a good place to start and highly recommended. Also buy Left 4 Dead if you like killing zombies ... : Mmmmmoo
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      Is a P4 with no dedicated gfx card going to run HL2 or L4D? That was my setup in 2003 and I had to go buy... : Dave-A
      • yeah, may have to pony up like £40 for an older video card maybe : niceguynick
  • if that isn't the greatest deal ever, I don't know what is. : lowpoly
• A pentium 4 with onboard intel gfx wouldn't be able to play even Doom 3 or Far Cry, unfortunately. Anythi... : Dave-A
• I ran HL2 just fine on a p4 3ghz, 1gb ram machine with a radeon 9800xt gfx card. But I'm not sure the in... : Perturbation
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  Onboard video will not cut it for most games. You will need to stick to games like HL1, CS, etc.. If yo... : sheepraper
  • i had almost the exact same specs with a gefore 6800 and it ran hl2 fine. : IgnoramusSA