Morning Discussion: Post-Its From America

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  Your choice of GTA IV being most overrated is bullshit. Halo 3 eclipses this quite easily. : stelth
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    No it doesn't - GTA IV was beheld as the coming of christ after the release of Halo 3. It was the grea... : dedgecko
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      I honestly don't understand how you guys dislike GTA IV. I thought the game was fucking awesome. I had ... : shwortdogg
      • I didn't think it was the best game ever, I loved it at first but it got frustrating after a while (and t... : MagicWishMonkey
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        To get everything in the game you had to really do some retarded shit (all the friend stuff). And the MP... : dedgecko
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          Dropped the ball with Red Faction Guerilla? You are insane. It's their best yet and one of the top games... : manlyman
          • If they had included co-op for Red Faction: Guerilla's SP game, it would have been the game of the year. ... : dedgecko
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          I'm playing SR2 right now with a friend. We had a conversation last night about what it would be like to ... : Rooster Cockburn
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            That is your opinion in terms of liking certain aspects - which can be nitpicked to death. As a whole, I... : dedgecko
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              Additionally - SR2 isn't billed as a realistic, social-networking, urban sandbox, criminal-simulator, and... : dedgecko
              • I'll agree the cruise control feature in SR2 is a nice addition, to allow aiming for shooting. : Rooster Cockburn
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        i liked it and think it's a great game but i still think it was overrated. it's not a fundamentally diffe... : dirge23
        • myself included - I raved about it to my coworkers after the first week of playing it - then I really got... : dedgecko
      • I fucking loved it, best 360 game by a mile in my eyes. : atom519
      • I enjoyed Saint's Row 1 and 2 much more than GTA 4. No contest for me. : Derringer
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      not buying into the hype is one thing. not appreciating the scope and execution of that game makes me won... : gokart.
      • You can have all the scope and innovation that you want, but if the game is ultimately not fun, then how ... : Derringer
  • I haven't even played GTA IV and I'm sure this is correct. : famine101
  • Agreed on Halo 3. They had three years after the release of Halo 2, and the entire single player campaign... : Rooster Cockburn
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  Most Overrated Xbox 360 game of all time: Halo 3 (see what I did there? I'm looking at you Dave-A) : MagicWishMonkey
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    DAVE-A! HEY! DAVE-A! YOU THIS?! : Korban
    • He said it was the best game ever! How dare he have an opinion that I don't agree with!!!! *rabble* *... : MagicWishMonkey
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      oops, forgot the "SEE". DAVE-A! YOU SEE THIS?! : Korban
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        http://www.shackpics.com/files/davea_xbv3zhij2ma60ygvpkw4.jpg : Dave-A
        • hahahaha : MagicWishMonkey
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    It's just true. : ieGod
    • ^this : peat
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    I love it, amazing multiplayer with new playlists every week to keep it fresh and great DLC. Still fire i... : cyclonebee
    • Maybe I just don't like it because I don't play multiplayer. I bought it for the single player coop and i... : MagicWishMonkey
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    I'm pretty sure you could remove "Xbox 360" from that title and it'd still be true : boarder2
    • Good point. : MagicWishMonkey
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    I always thought they were all pretty overrated. Not bad games, but not as great as people made them out... : valael
    • Exactly how I think about Halo, good games, but nowhere near as good as people claim. : Derringer
  • Yup! : project13
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  <Hugely popular game> is overrated. : orgcaptainnemo
  • OH NO YOU DI'N'T! <your favorite game> is utter shit compared to <Hugely popular game>!!!11! : Xanthos
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  Conan and Viking both deserve more love. I love those types of games. I wish they'd make more hash+... : ThomW
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    i found viking to be pretty bad, conan was awesome tho. : grifter
    • Viking started off pretty decent, then got real frustrating pretty quick. : Entity
• I would pretty much agree with this, especially about GTA4. : Get_It_Together
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  Too Human was under-rated. GTA4 over-rated : chazums
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    Too Human is a good pick for underrated. The controls take a while to get comfortable with, and the game... : LemonJoose
    • they're ramping up at SK for artists and designers for an action RPG....here's hoping it's Too Human pt. ... : Borzoi
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  PC -> overrated=DoW2; underrated=Sacred 2 : deviantpaul
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    How was Dawn of War 2 overrated? I thought it delivered exactly what was promised, and they are still de... : dedgecko
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      including single-player would be nice... : deviantpaul
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        i basically only played the SP of DoW2 and i thought it was great. : dirge23
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          it just felt so meh, and very skirmish-like. I was expecting something along the lines of CoH : deviantpaul
          • Then you weren't a fan of Dark Crusade - which I thought was the pinnacle of Dawn of War 1 - I take it. ... : dedgecko
          • It was pretty fun in coop. : valael
• Halo is the most overrated franchise overall so yeah, 3 gets it for this console generation. : NUZRUB
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  normally i would glance over this thread without a 2nd thought, but to call Shadow Complex the "most over... : mwasher
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    I played the demo. It's not bad -- it has great graphics, but the gameplay doesn't appeal to me that muc... : LemonJoose
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      Aye - so you've determined that it's over-hyped because you didn't enjoy the demo. I'm sorry, your opini... : dedgecko
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        Well I might point out that giving the user the ability to judge the final version of a product is precis : NoCopy
        • Except the fun of this entire style of game is gathering items, exploring, and developing your character.... : nurglich
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      If I would have just played the demo only, I would have felt this way too, but this was definitely one of... : cyclonebee
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        not played the demo but i thought the start of the game was very slow.. but after 20 minutes or so it rea... : cause&effect
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          nothing keeping you from loading your save game right before the final boss battle and getting 100% still... : Xevo
          • Oh, I thought I'd read otherwise in other Shack Shadow Complex posts.. awesome.. I'll have a crack later ... : cause&effect
          • Actually, unless there's some back route that isn't on the map and I couldn't find, you have to get the l : nurglich
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      oh lemonjoose. when you are going to start a thread like this, at least have some knowledge of what you ... : mwasher
      • At least he's consistent! : Dave-A
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      "I played the demo." Not cool, man. "but the gameplay doesn't appeal to me that much." That's a ... : slax0r
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        I'm praying that the success of Shadow Complex spurs Konami to release a new Castlevania on XBLA - it'll ... : cause&effect
        • Castlevania's a 3D hack and slash now. : Entity
      • i was talking about this recently: http://www.shacknews.com/laryn.x?id=20719188#itemanchor_20719188 a ... : dirge23
    • lol case closed. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • "I played the demo". The End. : Drewus
    • You only played the demo though, so you're not qualified to comment on the full game : fishbone
• sweet another bad opinion thread! : dewdman
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  over-underrated: Sacred 2 (it has a deep character system and a large and area, and everything else is pr... : confuseatron
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    Uh, what? Are you sure you saw the same game as everyone else. The graphics in Sacred 2 are fucking gor... : IndigoAK
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      He may be thinking about Sacred 1??? I am similarly confused. : Vantage
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        I meant to say that for a game that seemed like a throwback in many ways, it had spiffy graphics. Still, ... : confuseatron
        • have you seen the particle effects ? with physx? : italiano3d
• I agree with everyone pointing out Halo 3 as overrated. However, I think GTA IV is even more overrrated. : LemonJoose
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  Most Underrated: Assassin's Creed : foo
  • it wasn't exactly underrated, but it was bashed a lot more than it deserved : dirge23
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    I disagree - over rated, and became way too repetitive much too soon, and didn't spice up the repetition ... : dedgecko
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      i really don't see how AC was more repetitive than many other games (Red Faction: Guerrilla is fairly sim... : dirge23
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        Because in an environment where shit can blow up as the result of several different methods of destructio... : dedgecko
        • good points, all of these things are true. : dirge23
  • I'm pretty sure most "professional" reviewers gave AC great ratings, the actual game players didn't like ... : boarder2
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    I tried playing it, but I just didn't like the controls very much I never got passed the caves when you h... : WadeMcLain
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      That's called the tutorial. : Rooster Cockburn
      • i started the game up and it was all like "press start" and i thought, these controls suck : dirge23
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        Well if I didn't want to play after the tutorial the game was broken. : WadeMcLain
        • Clearly the game is broken and it has nothing to do with you. : Rooster Cockburn
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    More like most overrated. : Mad Brahmin Disease
    • So, so this. The Fallout themed name indicates proper taste in games. : DinK
  • Hell no, AC was very overrated by critics. : Link.
  • you misspelled OVERRATED : X-GOUKI
• Haha, yeah this thread sounds like a good idea : megarust32
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  Most overrated thread: This one : bozer
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    thanks for contributing : dirge23
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      this thread is fucking dumb. : Jackass1233
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        You're fucking dumb ;) When are we all going to play some CoH again? : dedgecko
        • I'll know in the next 4 days whether or not im buying a new pc:) my old machine had the mobo go out : Jackass1233
• i dont even have an xbox and i laugh at your list : sreyes22
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  Why do people's judgement of overrated games always feel like either sour grapes or "I'm sick of hearing ... : slax0r
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    people love an opportunity to shit all over something other people like : dirge23
    • ^^^^^^ This is pretty much it. : baronzemo78
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    "Overrated" is the most abused word in the English language. : omnova
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      I would consider it a tie between random and ironic. : SenorSpine
      • those are some pretty random choices : valael
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      Don't forget "literally" : Arctic Fox
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        I'm changing my answer to "like." : omnova
        • I'm changing your answer to "uhhhhh" : ArcKnight
    • The word Overrated is so overrated : thecray
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    Usually that's what it ends up being. I'm surprised I haven't seen Halo at least 50 times in here already... : Godhatesfatpeople
    • You didn't look closely enough. : LemonJoose
  • I get frustrated because I play the game and feel like I'm playing it wrong or I've gotta be missing some... : MagicWishMonkey
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  GTAIV wasn't overrated. A lot of people loved it and it's still in the top 10 played 360 games every week... : Bull
  • it can still be overrated, because the reviews were so overwhelmingly and uniformly positive : dirge23
  • It's an opinion - one that can be shared by many and argued over by others who disagree. The fact that... : dedgecko
  • I got perfect scores in reviews. The "rated" part of overrated could go no higher FWIW. : DinK
  • Liberty City is such an amazing place for a video game. It captures the essence of NYC so perfectly and y... : freakynipples69
• I totally enjoyed Conan as well. Good to see I'm not alone! : jason bergman
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  most over-rated always means "most popular game i didn't like" it's bullshit : EvilDolemite
  • that's exactly what I thought it meant. Why is that bullshit.... : confuseatron
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  Most Underrated is EDF2017 : Masem
  • ^^^^ this x 10000, such a badass game : MagicWishMonkey
  • Yesssssssss : Link.
  • seriously, best game on 360 I think : whore
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  Most underrated: Vampire Bloodlines Most overrated: Painkiller. You heard me. I know Painkiller is ... : Kerranger
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    vampire bloodlines is so badly flawed in its official release that i can't really consider it underrated : dirge23
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      Correct, it was quite horrid, but now, after unofficial patches, it's satanically good, especially for pl... : Kerranger
      • i played about halfway through it, hit a bug that prevented me from finishing a quest the way i wanted to... : dirge23
  • Painkiller overrated, what is this madness? People who are into painkiller tend to like it for exactly... : DinK
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  It's early, but I think Wolfenstein is pretty underrated. Seems like a lot of people blew it off based o... : valael
  • Agreed, I have been enjoying it and I hate WWII shooters. Granted this is more a scifi WWII shooter... : DrillBit
  • I am weaiting for this to drop in price. I think it has strong potential for being underrated. Everyone... : LemonJoose
  • IAWTP. sp was alot of fun. a few foibles but overall very enjoyable. lots of weapons and special abil... : smax
  • I'm waiting for Steam plus maybe a drop to $30 or something. : socksta
• Underrated - Serious Sam 2. Seriously (no pun intended) I don't understand why people didn't like this ga... : Schnapple
• Wait, which one is Charles de Gaulle again? : prokat
• underrated game from old school pc days: CHROME. I liked that game : X-GOUKI
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  Super Mario Galaxy diappointed me quite a bit. and i was chomping at the bit to play it. as with GTA4 a... : i poop from there
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    I sort of liked Super Mario Galaxy, but I do think it's one of the most overrated games of this generatio... : BoKnows
    • i liked it to...but the repetitive boss battles sucked. : i poop from there
• Underrated: System Shock 1, Sacrifice, Hitman: Blood Money Overrated: Halo, Starcraft, Nintendo Wii. : Sgt_Boomstick
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  DEAD RISING - Most over rated game this generation man that game was a broken pile of crap that was f... : disembodied potato
  • Yeah if they were a different type of enemy it would be the most hated game in a long time. Fortunately ... : kingdepork
  • I really hated that game. So broken. : MagicWishMonkey
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    Yeh that's a good pick for overrated. I actually bought my Xbox 360 because of the hype for Dead Rising,... : LemonJoose
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      Any game that doesn't support "press start -> save game" can fuck off and die IMO : MagicWishMonkey
      • yep, agreed. I cant think of a single instance where restricted save options has improved a game. : disembodied potato
  • I thought it was pretty great except that its save system sucked giant donkey balls. : thetangent
  • I can agree with this one. Dead Rising had a lot of good points and deserves some credit, but you have t... : nurglich
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  Wtf? Shadow Complex is the greatest game this year, my friends list is testament to that. I have not seen... : trelain
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    I didn't like Castlevania either. I never really liked character-based side-scrolling RPGs or platformer... : LemonJoose
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      so its not overrated, you're just broken inside : grendel
      • Maybe that's it. : LemonJoose
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    I downloaded the trial and the story/characters were so bad it made me quit before I finished it. I'll m... : Haku-Jin
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      This is pretty much how it went for me as well. I didn't even finish the demo. : MagicWishMonkey
      • Then again, I'm pretty picky with games and honestly feel that 90% of the shit produced each year sucks a... : MagicWishMonkey
    • ^^Agreed. It's so overrated. : Shodai80
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      You don't play it for the story, which I agree is cliche and poorly devised. The gameplay is fucking fan... : fishbone
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        I liked it a lot more when it was called Metroid. Just re-played Zero Mission on my DS and it's still aw... : qsylvr
        • How the fuck did I end up in this chatty? sigh : qsylvr
    • It's the gameplay stupid. : spazzium
• Not "under" or "over" rated, but I've always thought "Evil Genius" was overlooked by way too many people.... : thetangent
• yeech. Conan was mediocre at best. : edgewise

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  degenerate in first! why did you do this mancide?! why?! : mwasher
  • I have no fucking clue, it seemed like a good idea. : mancide
  • Because he's too far ahead of me in posts to take #1 even with my gamerscore. : sigpro
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    wait a second. now dognose is #1. what the fuck is going on here? : mwasher
    • I'm tweaking the calculation to make people happy. : mancide
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  you should have some kind of coefficient on those numbers instead of just adding them up. people with 1 ... : electroly
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    It's all for fun anyway... I'll look into tweaking it. If Sony would ever open up a way for me to scrape ... : mancide
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      i'll just type sigpro's xbox live name into my profile, problem solved : electroly
      • I like your style. : Jonathan
    • electroly does nothing for fun. he lives in the serious zone. : mwasher
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  What's the calculation? How many Shackscore points does one lose for each post? : Alice O'Connor
  • You just lost 5 points for this post. : esad
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  how do i get a gamerscore? : podizzle
  • You need your Xbox live username in your profile's field. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    Buy a Xbox 360 or buy something on GFWL that uses MS GamerPoints. : Shadowdane
    • Both of these posts above are what you need to do. You need to have a Microsoft Live Gamercared, which yo... : mancide
• Just noticed Phil is almost at 50k posts. There better be a big damn celebration for that one. : Ecks
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  Gamerscore is now weighted to only add 10% to your shackscore... so It's POSTS + (LOLS * 2) + (GAMERSCORE... : mancide
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    lols x 2? That favors people like phil and dognose who get lols for everything they post, even if it's ju... : sigpro
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      Well, I think a LOL should be worth more than a post, but I'm totally open to suggestions here. I do agre... : mancide
      • Posts + (LOLS * 2) + (INFS * 1000) - (NUKED * 1000) - (x * 10000) Where x = posts containing phrases ... : Dave-A
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  rosewood is the best at shacknews? : Dave-A
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    Fuck yes I am : rosewood
    • that was a timely fuckin' reply there, rosie! : Dave-A
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  sigpro's gamer score is un, fucking, real : EvilDolemite
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    It's not that high. Look at fucking Randy Pitchfords. http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/profile.aspx... : sigpro
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      yeah but, you have two jobs and kids..you're a monster. i felt proud when i broke 10,000 after "only" tw... : EvilDolemite
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        Randy runs a fucking company. He's an admitted achievement whore though who will whore kids games like ca... : sigpro
        • Cars was fun and an easy 900 points. If he got the full 1000 then he whored it because the last 100 requi... : mancide
    • look at my IRC 'friend's' http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=aussiestatic : porp
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    Stallion83's is unreal.... 357,773 http://live.xbox.com/en-US/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=Stallion... : mancide
    • haha, that's fucking crazy : porp
    • Hahah take a look at his blog: http://www.1milliongamerscore.com/ : Nitrium
• Woo! 16,666! : Dynotaku
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  lol I really don't recall going over 30,000 posts. I love you guys. group hug. : Downforce
  • OH ALSO GIRLZ TOO. A/S/L ??? : Downforce

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  Fred Garvin disagrees with you on the PT Cruiser jab : kgargs
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    That's why he made it and whatever. I own my car, it gets me from point a to b and hauls a lot of equipme... : Fred Garvin
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      Right, because people only started shitting on the PT after you bought one. : My Documents
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        This is what I was thinking. I'm pretty sure I made a few posts hating the PT Cruiser long before I knew ... : haiku
        • like your posts lol : Halen
      • Hello Ms. Drive-By, how are you? : Fred Garvin
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  People who care about fonts are faggots. : baronzemo78
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    (à° _à° ;) : helvetica
    • Don't worry, we all care about you. There there. : Lone Swordsman
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  Why on earth would anyone do that? Like the article says, it was designed for reading bodies of text on ... : SiW.
  • He's going to call you a stupid faggot I think. : Tchest
• I preferred the red >:( : Dave-A
• People actually give a fuck what font a company uises? Good lord. I probably wouldn't even have noticed u... : avatar_58
• should have used comic sans : Zek
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  There was an image floating around that I don't know where it went to that showed, vertically, all the ch... : Masem
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    You mean this one? http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/coca-cola_vs_pepsi_revised_edition... : not work safe
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      also: http://www.panic.com/~cabel/img/pepsi_gravitational_field.pdf yes, this is real : ventro
      • what the fuck did I just read : rgoer
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        DESIGN : SiW.
        • ...is law! : Haxim
      • What the fuck?!? There's no way that's real. That reads like 'The Onion' wrote a white-paper on pepsi lo... : Ormsbee
      • What the heck is this!?! WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?? : Warlock
      • Holy shit that read like an L. Ron Hubbard novel...but it's too much work to be a fake... : hussdelrio
      • haha holy shit I'd love to see the presentation that accompanied this. : aldraek
      • These evil idiots clearly deny nature's harmonic simultaneous 4-day time cube. : alphablu
    • yes, though I hadn't seen the revised version. But still, notice the coke font does not change significan... : Masem
• rofl design fags. : lodit
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  i really love reading about corporate branding and the reasoning behind the decisions. do you have any l... : FrayLo
  • I don't read any specific blogs. I occasionally hang out on various type and design forums, and I general... : haiku
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  font nerds are hilarious to me. such passion over fonts and typefaces! : hamachi
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    comic sans is the anti-christ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! : kgargs
    • I can understand that one. I just am amazed (in a good way) that there is such a history of passion for ... : hamachi
    • I've always wanted to make a documentary about comic sans. : get_navi
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    I'm not sure why it is any different than food or cars. It influences the thinking, action, and concerns ... : haiku
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      oh I get it. and I know I'm bereft of any knowledge where I can comment on it. I'm just constantly am... : hamachi
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        Most of the Type books I read are either font catalogs or books geared specifically to designers and bran... : haiku
        • thanks for this! : hamachi
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      This has nothing to do with it. The problem is that there is absolutely nothing visibly wrong with Verdan... : Tchest
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        You're like the right wing town hall shithead version of an internet user. You can't stand when people th... : haiku
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          You are like the right wing town hall shithead version of an internet user. You repeat what all your grap... : Tchest
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            Oh and just to be clear, unlike "intellectual", being elitist IS a bad thing. : Tchest
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              No, there is no elitism going on here. Elitism would be saying "I know more about some subject than someo... : haiku
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                Well, you got pissed at him for saying nothing is wrong with Verdana... : YerMothah
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                  I cam down on him for everything that came after his first sentence. Other people have posted about their... : haiku
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                    Look, I saw people posting stuff about font nerds and design fags, then I saw your post trying to explain... : Tchest
                    • Nothing about how I explained myself failed. I had some good discussions with people, outside of indignan... : haiku
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                  An uninformed opinion about a typeface, followed by a statement that anyone who cares about the topic is ... : jipey
                  • I never gave any such statement. I just tried to illustrate how his post looks to people that don't know ... : Tchest
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                This subthread reminds me of when Gonzo posted his article about Windows 7 the other day and some guy who... : Dave-A
                • oh what the hell. I don't understand where all this comes from. I feel like I am reading a completely dif... : Tchest
              • There needs to be a FAQ for the internet and this post need to be on it. : hawkeye
  • IAWTP : thetangent
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  verdana and tahoma are my two fave font types... you are just ... dunno. : ghost hacker
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    I don't like Verdana, but Tahoma is the absolutely best UI font ever designed (it's basically just a cond... : GreatGooglyMoogly
    • THEY INTERVIEWS : GreatGooglyMoogly
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      If you like Tahoma, try Google Droid. It's a nice small font family. : Conan
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        Cool, I will! I also like Nokia's font, whatever that is. : GreatGooglyMoogly
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          Ack, the hinting below 9ppt or so is rather poor for the Droid font. Too bad, because it's pretty nice in... : GreatGooglyMoogly
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            Hrm. I use it at 8 and 9 pt all the time and it seems okay here. Did you get the official release? : Conan
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              I am one of those people who can't stand ClearType (SmearType, hyuck), and it does look "okay" with it on... : GreatGooglyMoogly
              • Well, the font was designed for devices that would have sub-pixel rendering available (android platforms)... : Conan
• ummm I don't see any difference. nerds : kainen1
• Yeah it is ridiculous. I couldn't believe it when I first saw it. : ventro
• Wow, hell really is freezing over. Deathlove is giving Favre props and i'm agreeing with Haiku's posts :( : Phreakin
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  And then you switched to arial instead of helvetica like you should have. : [7]kami
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    I wish. Helvetica is treated too differently between Operating Systems and Browsers to get a consistent l... : haiku
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      Except IE won't support it so you won't be able to use it. :) : nudel
      • IE was the first browser to support embedded fonts and still does by the way. : NoCopy
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      Yea i know. Shame it works like that. While we're at it: i think both the frontpage and the articles coul... : [7]kami
      • Also: SPACING http://wefunction.com/2009/04/quality-within-web-design/ : [7]kami
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      All modern browsers now suppoer @font-face. And IE has it's own version. The problem is finding a font yo... : ysbreker
      • Support too. : ysbreker
    • HEAR HEAR. I still have to find a decent Windows version of Helvetica. All of them are completely fucked ... : GreatGooglyMoogly
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  "Akerberg found himself troubled by a full-page advertisement for Ikea"..."I thought that something had g : Rauol Duke
  • no kidding, it's all fine and dandy to care about typefaces i guess, but if it "troubles" you to the poin... : lja83
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  haiku do you remember when Verdana was the absolute hot shit in the mid to late 90s, maybe even up to the... : mikecyb
  • There were a few things at play. Designers weren't paying that much attention to the web. Browsers we... : haiku
  • I think it just became popular because everyone who'd been using Windows for years was just ecstatic that... : Dave-A
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  that reads like an onion article to me : [fry]
  • I wasn't as angry after 9-11 as this faggot is over how some letters look. : Rauol Duke
• so arial is better than verdana? I thought arial was pretty much the worst? : manero
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  OUTRAGE ABOUT OUTRAGE!!! None of the cocksucking articles/blog-posts I've read about this have had the... : nudel
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    iawtp : yAak
    • nevermind, i just need to scroll more and post less : yAak
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  What a ridiculous article - I can see pictures of Microsoft (?), Time's coverage of Ted Kennedy, links to... : Jonathan
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    http://www.idsgn.org/posts/ikea-says-goodbye-to-futura/ : Fred Garvin
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      Ignoring the font, the 2010 cover looks crowded and classless :( : Dave-A
      • Yep and it looks like they're missing the example rooms from the 2010 catalog. : Jonathan
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      god it looks like an image macro crapped out by someone on 4chan : mikecyb
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        the second comparison is mostly okay though. Verdana is just really weird looking as a header/headline f... : mikecyb
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          Well it's all caps on the cover which is kind of lame. : Jonathan
          • yeah, Verdana looks like shit in allcaps. they were using Futura before which looks really good in all u... : mikecyb
        • i don't like how they just scream about deals and lower prices : Dave-A
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        Ikea isn't in the easiest position really in terms of selecting a type face. I am sure their agency provi... : haiku
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          Does it have all the international characters? That seemed to be one of the reasons they picked Verdana (... : nudel
          • It probably has extended Latin sets, but I don't think it is relevant. When an organization like that sel... : haiku
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          I'm not sure about that. I really thought Futura was a great fit for IKEA specifically because of it's... : Kentor
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            It's not that I think Futura wasn't working for them, but I think using Futura could date your brand in a... : haiku
            • It would be interesting seeing the design briefs and what not for IKEA's branding. Can't say I personally... : Kentor
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          I like Trebuchet MS a lot, though that might make me an asshole intern :P I dunno how well it works as f... : mikecyb
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            Before I read an interview with him, I used to think the guy who made Comic Sans must feel like the guy w... : haiku
            • what do you thnk about him now? : hamachi
            • he wants to taste the curb! HE WANTS TO TASTE THE FUCKING CURB! : confuseatron
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          Out of curiosity, why the Gotham hate? Too popular and overused? I could definitely see that. Also, wh... : jipey
          • Gotham was, and is, an excellent typeface. It rightly became a popular and well used typeface. Then ca... : Kentor
    • lol, i can't even see the difference in typefaces except where they show the two alphabets side by side : lja83
    • HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA who the hell's doing their design now, the CEO's kid? : Home Nugget
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      No one that actually shops there will notice any difference, only OCD font queers. If that article didn'... : gmd
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        i'll pay greater attention to and care more about how effective my glorious flushable wet toilet papers w... : [fry]
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          this reminds me that I am out of them, thanks fry : gmd
          • np. your asshole being clean is something of personal interest to me. : [fry]
    • I'm not really all that knowledgeable about type, but honestly the switch is odd, and makes it look a lot... : choppp
    • Oh, I thought they changed the font for the IKEA logo. If that's still the same, who gives a damn? =\ : Agrona
  • I'm also baffled by that. : Mad Brahmin Disease
• I'm so mad about this, I can barely even Twitter my disgust!! : itsjames
• I've had that catalogue for a week now but didn't notice that at all.. :P : ThrillKill
• who the fuck cares : maulla
• I can't say I'm mad, but why the fuck would you switch to Verdana. Especially for print. : Conan
• "I Twittered about it, people at their ad agency told me that this was actually the new Ikea font," he re... : cptstern
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  Verdana is awesome. At my former job we used it as the standard font type for every text that had to be r... : Bamii
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    Oh yeah? Then why is it your former job? They either sucked too much as a company for you to stay there, ... : haiku
    • You couldn't be more wrong. : Bamii
    • Goudy Hundred for Lyfe. : Rotten Deadite
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  Guess who will care? Absolutely no one but design nerds. I've read so many articles by typography frea... : SenorSpine
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    That must be why Tropicana back-peddled after spending millions on a new brand and packaging roll-out. Be... : haiku
    • except that tropicana changed everything about their brand recognition, they even threw out the orange wi... : lja83
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    I think you're undervaluing the usefulness of typefaces in branding. : Yanks
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      There are so many sites that get called ugly yet are ridiculously popular. Brands that get blasted, yet p... : SenorSpine
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        LOL. " Buildings are important but engineers don't matter. " - SenorSpine : terath
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          Programming is important. Whether you use tabs or spaces for indentation doesn't matter. No project has e... : SenorSpine
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            Except branding is far more important than tabs and spaces in programming. Especially so for a company th... : terath
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              Also, of *course* it's designers that are outranged and the public goes "huh"? I mean, imagine some softw... : terath
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                Your mixing up your own terrible analogy with my argument. : SenorSpine
                • *You're : SenorSpine
                • Actually the programming analogy was yours, I just corrected it and went with it. But it's very simple. ... : terath
            • nothing is more important than using tabs and spaces correctly! : Agrona
    • Yep, there are lots and lots of studies that show how important typefaces are. : MagicWishMonkey
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  that's incredible. was there a selection, from which Verdana came out the winner?? I don't see the proces... : Downforce
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    Things like this for companies like Ikea are no small decision. nudel brought up a good point above, in t... : haiku
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      It seems damage control could be easy, if this change is limited to the online media? : Downforce
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        Large brands don't usually have different typefaces for different types of media. So it will show up ever... : haiku
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          Do you have the link to that article (Obama Batman Gotham)? Sounds like it might be interesting. : hawkeye
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            I remember reading a few... I'm pretty sure the NYTimes ran one. : jipey
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              http://campaignstops.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/02/to-the-letter-born/ : jipey
              • Thanks. That last paragraph and the comparison really bring the idea home in an easy to understand way... : hawkeye
• I actually override all web fonts with Verdana lol : d fluke
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  Wait, wait, I thought it was the font in their logo. It's only the font in their ads and catalogs? For re... : Mad Brahmin Disease
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    and signage throughout their store. Have you ever been to an IKEA? It's like Futura city. : ventro
    • Of course I have, but I didn't and still don't give a crap about fonts. : Mad Brahmin Disease
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  oh jesus christ no, I can never go there again. I specifically analyze fonts as I shop and if they use a... : gmd
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    gmd i only shop at places that have fonts created by a 300 year old Italian calligrapher who creates his ... : pukerat
    • I applaud you sir : gmd
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  i don't know anything about the flow of the design industry but why is verdana bad? to me, it's unobt... : xxiv
  • i suppose i mean why is it clumsy? : xxiv
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    It isn't about thinking in terms of bad, or good. It is just about what is appropriate, what is powerful ... : haiku
    • that actually makes perfect sense to me. i always used to use it sized around 9 or 10. and i do agree tha... : xxiv
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  what does the world think of calibri since it's Word 2007's default? : DonkeyPopsicle
  • It was well received, but people don't use it that much out of habit of only having a few fonts to choose... : haiku
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  I don't think it's worse than the Tropicana change - this isn't as drastic. The Tropicana branding change... : ieGod
  • The reason why I think it is a worse decision than Tropicana is because I felt Tropicana was acting innoc... : haiku
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  Are you kidding me? Some people have way too much time on their hands. The only time I noticed a font was... : gooblerampling
  • heh yeah because i don't have the distinctions in place to notice these things it doesn't matter to anybo... : Mr.SEX
• this post reminds me of American Psycho and business cards. : m0rfus
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  this is seriously a hard thread to read because of all the "i don't notice these things ever so it doesn'... : Mr.SEX
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    well it clearly doesn't matter since companies don't spend hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars o... : mikecyb
    • maybe a couple of pictures that was supposed to say : mikecyb
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      Personally, I'm more of an IMPACT fan, mikecyb. : choppp
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        oh man it totally works: http://mikecyb.shackspace.com/ikea-impact.jpg I'm going to talk to Ikea right... : mikecyb
        • hahaha, how could they go wrong with that? it looks amazing. : choppp
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      This may be true Michael but this font change right here is barely noticeable and hardly worth the font n... : gmd
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        the only nerd rage going on is from the dudes who are being all "who cares about fonts i don't even notic... : Mr.SEX
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          I can't take your post seriously in the current font, try switching to make a more powerful statement : gmd
          • I found his post had a very low brand impact awareness to it and so I called my congressman. : Rauol Duke
          • 8======D <---powerful statement : Mr.SEX
    • i think the reason you see so many of these posts is because in this case the change is pretty damn unnot... : kainen1
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      Justify this you legohead fucker: "Akerberg found himself troubled by a full-page advertisement for Ikea"... : Rauol Duke
      • legohead, genius : gmd
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        what am I trying to justify? some dude getting upset about the change? that's an individual person's re... : mikecyb
        • When you and haiku gang up in a thread awesome things happen. : hawkeye
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          I wouldn't care, because I'm dead inside and find these histrionics funny. No one outside of design shoul... : Rauol Duke
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            well then you are saying people shouldn't have any passion, which I don't agree with. also I don't think... : mikecyb
            • well then you are saying people shouldn't have any passion, which I don't agree with. Stop being glib her : Rauol Duke
          • IAWTP : SenorSpine
      • In a lot of companies, this would probably go relatively unnoticed. But IKEA has purposefully made themse... : laurgasms
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    wow, these font nerds need to go outside or get laid he he : filtersweep
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      ummm just turn off your brain heh : My Documents
      • lol : Mr.SEX
  • your post is hard to read SERIOUSLY : mwasher
  • Hey guys is this the thread where we all agree with each other by making fun of everyone who disagrees? : SenorSpine
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  What's the point of this? arial, helvetica, clean, sans-serif; When will arial not actually be avai... : Makenxero
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    i'm pretty sure linux distributions don't come with either arial or helvetica, as they are not under comp... : electroly
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      It definitely makes sense to have the generic type as a backup, but helvetica? : Makenxero
      • I can't speak for the shack's css but I always did it because I assumed Arial did not come with OS X but ... : mikecyb
• wingdings 4 lyfe : wendigo
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  "It was designed for a very limited use" Just out of curiosity, how do you know this? : Robotic Puppy Eater
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verdana : ysbreker
  • The article has a bit on this. All this outrage over a font? For some designers, it's an issue of pro : thief
• Well, there are pros and cons for Verdana. Personally, I don't like the use of Arial here. It's terrib... : Nitrium
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  I must be a terrible designer because I probably wouldn't have noticed until it showed up on Brand New. : not work safe
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    Verdana is used on the sign for Auschwitz : gmd
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      That sign is weird. What kind of fucked-up 1920s geomerically-constructed sans-serif typeface has a "B" w... : Dave-A
      • i mean this sign is over the gate to hell and that goofy lookin' B is just mocking the poor souls being s... : Dave-A
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    The IKEA issue didn't show up on Brand New as far as I'm aware. : Kentor
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      Thusly, I wouldn't have noticed it until such time. : not work safe
      • Ah, yeah... erm... hmm... carry on then. : Kentor
• Don't ever change! : unsound
• Ikea has a sign on their building? Who knew? : Godhatesfatpeople
• they should change it to comic sans to really fuck with people : maulla
• I like arial, calibri, tahoma, verdana. too bad i can't past them in : GoodBoy
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  i love that people have time to care about this : slickdoody
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    We're at work, what else would we do? : ghost in my shell
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      true! But i mean from the ikea customer perspective. I can't imagine how or why your average customer gi... : slickdoody
      • ikea's font selection is the least of their perspective problems, after watching shows like the wire, you... : ghost in my shell
      • People don't necessarily look at the magazine and think "wow, what an ugly font", but they do evaluate wh... : Conan
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  http://www.idsgn.org/posts/ikea-says-goodbye-to-futura/ Well, at least the design of their catalogs no : Serpico74
  • And to combine my movie and design nerdery, the typeface that Kubrick used in nearly all of his film titl... : Serpico74
  • I'm going to wait for someone on one of the big design forums to do a photoshop thread where people take ... : haiku
  • Seeing that front cover with all-caps Verdana makes it look like someone pasted the photo into a Word doc... : rock elf
• Hmm this is interesting. I like Verdana but after reading through this thread I see how it can be problem... : Magus
• Look what I found http://www.shackpics.com/files/iPhoneUpload_ixpgdu6edu0xza4psnk1.jpg : gmd
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  I'm super confused. Their logo looks the exact same. What changed? http://www.idsgn.org/posts/ikea-say... : Danny5225
  • yeah mainly the prices : headbone
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    Scroll down to the before/after comparisons, the main difference is in the body text : Serpico74
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      Honestly, the biggest difference I see is in the content. The first one paints this lively image of all t... : Danny5225
      • I think I've pinned down why those bottom three are so fucking atrocious. It's like they've given up o... : Danny5225

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• Oops, left out World of Warcraft and EVE Online. I guess games you have an active subscription to don't ... : Sapiens
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  5 of those games do not require re-installing, just double clicking the executables to run then. : abrasion
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    "If you had to start from scratch right now..." : Sapiens
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      I don't mean to play stupid but is this just a hypothetical or will you be choosing from the list? becaus... : abrasion
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        Yes, this is a hypothetical situation in Bizarro World where you don't have a separate games drive, didn'... : Sapiens
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          Yes, War 3, Doom 3, Doom 1 and 2, all of Steam and Crysis - these mandatory on a machine - I guess Q3A al... : abrasion
          • I have a single 1TB Western Digital Black drive partitioned up into OS/Apps, Games, and Media Storage. T... : Sapiens
          • I have never had a separate drive letter for games, and have never thought that was a good idea. To me... : poindexter1985
        • Peggle first, since it's so small. I can play that while the other games re-download :) : electroly
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        See now that's not always wise. We have this thing called a registry and some games will not "just work" ... : avatar_58
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          No, it is always, always wise - if it doesn't work, then you re-install, otherwise you save an absoloute ... : abrasion
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            Sometimes "doesn't work" doesn't show up right away. To me when it comes to software you ALWAYS start fre... : avatar_58
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              I've been doing this stuff since I first re-installed 95 and got sick of waiting, you soon learn what wor : abrasion
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                You see while you might save those hours on rebuild you burn it all looking for insane software that does... : Chod
                • I guess, I don't reinstall all my games - only the ones I'm currently playing. Which these days pretty = ... : avatar_58
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                  Umm ok. : abrasion
                  • I think in the end some of us are just a little more OC than others. I occasionally prefer the "fresh" f... : Sapiens
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                  "..looking for insane software that doesn't exist here on the Shack all the time." What? : Nali4Freedom
                  • He was just poking fun at abrasion. : Sapiens
            • Well I have found that most games are less likely to rely on concept like files in the Windows directory,... : Schnapple
• WoW Diablo II Quake, Q2, Q3A Bookworm Deluxe Chuzzle : Salad Sammich
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  hard drive space is cheap and it's trivial to just copy the Steam folder over, so i don't bother. i just... : electroly
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    I hate having to re-run every game to install shit like DX and C++, not to mention re-enabling the update... : avatar_58
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      you can cancel those installs : shirif
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        Some yes, but you need some of them. I always cancel shit like punkbuster, fuck that crap. : avatar_58
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          Don't you need that to play online with certain games? : ieGod
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            Which is why I don't usually install it ;) : avatar_58
            • cheater! : brainchild420
          • You need it to ruin online games you mean. : Cliffzorz
  • It's a hypothetical electroly! He's just asking what your favorite go-to games are. : ieGod
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    Last time I tried copying my steam older it didn't work :( : nevlos
    • You just copy the steamapps folder. You need to reinstall steam, but copying that folder over will avoid ... : avatar_58
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      i've done it twice :) usually all you have to do is nuke the clientregistry.blob file and it'll figure i... : electroly
      • Ahh.. I didn't do that. I think I tried only copying select games, and ended up having to redownload ever... : nevlos
• I just install games as and when I play them and generally never uninstall them until I format. That said... : marmite
• Team Fortress 2, Diablo 2:LoD, Simcity 4 : GigiLeCheshire
• Quake 2 +mods HL2 + Episodes Counter-Strike: Source Left 4 Dead That's probably it. : ieGod
• L4D, HL2, CS:S, DoD:S, TF2, GTA trilogy, Fallout 3, DoW2 : .Jayson
• UT'99, Duke3D, Shadow Warrior and the Peggles are always installed. : dognose
• For some reason I always load Doom 3 on a new system first. Then I never play it. Almost a ritual at this... : Vangoghs Ear
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  pretty much only eve-onine : cpt_gloval
  • New machine: Install Firefox, install PuTTY, install EvE, Done. : loboca
• Download Steam installer, queue up every game for download, go to bed and let it go overnight. I'm pla... : Schnapple
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  I don't re-install games after reformatting until I want to play them. : Zek
  • Well in my experience there comes a time when you'd like to play a game but you don't want the hassle of ... : Schnapple
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  Team Fortress 2, Counterstrike:Source, Deus Ex, Fallout 3, Dead Space : megarust32
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    I have Deus Ex on Steam and have never been able to get into it. It's one of my biggest failings in life... : Sapiens
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      Perhaps your biggest. Play for a few levels, 3 or 4 before deciding that it's not worth your time :) : megarust32
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        I always feel really directionless in the first mission and the environment isn't exactly interesting at ... : Sapiens
        • Man, I only ever play the game stealthy. I don't think i've ever not played the game stealthy, it's a re... : megarust32
• When I got my TB drive I first put on my Steam games (HL, HL2+Ep1+Ep2, TF2, Portal, Civ4+BtS+W, S&M Seaso... : Grumbeld
• UT99, Max Payne 1 + 2, Titan Quest : dionex
• Orange Box, L4D, CoH, C&C Generals, DoW II, Zeno Clash (have to finish), Fallout 3. : shadebane
• I just move my steam folder from my backup drive and don't worry about it. If it's something I own not o... : grabbie
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  I always just install every Source multiplayer game (DoD:S, TF2, L4D, CS:S, etc) and every Blizzard game.... : The Grolar Bear
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    Do you actually play all of the Source multiplayer games regularly, or are they installed on general prin... : Sapiens
    • General principle. Who are we kidding here... : The Grolar Bear
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  Cool question, Sapiens. Mine would be: Dawn of War 2 Bioshock Left 4 Dead Call of Duty 4 Sid Meie... : wytefang
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    Civ IV would be on my list if I could figure out how to play it properly. I even own all of the expansio... : Sapiens
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      That game's evil. I think I played for 7 hours strait the first day I got it. I still had no idea what ... : Pneum0
      • Some games really require either a pedigree in the series or the help of a strategy guide. Another good ... : wytefang
• Desktop: -Crysis -Quake 3 (with Q3 GPL'd source and Visual C++ installed) and the Generations Arena mod... : Vorlonesque
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  TF2 L4D DOOM (Hexen, Heretic, etc) Duke3D Quake 1 (because I've had the same Quake folder since 1996)... : guido anchovy
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    I'm noticing a lot of people have a few older games in their lists. Glad I'm not the only one, my roomma... : Sapiens
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      I think my current DOOM folder started out as DOOM 2 back in 1994 and it's grown since then. Just like m... : guido anchovy
      • I did that for the longest time but eventually just didn't see a reason to since I never ever played. I... : Sapiens
• TF2 CS:S DOD:S L4D : ass-street
• I just blindly reinstall everything. Making decisions makes the brain itch. : aasyranth
• TF2, DoD:S, peggle extreme :( : mrblarg
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  Steam : CasbahBoy
  • Steam is not a game! :) : Sapiens
• Warcraft III, TF2, Quakelive, WoW, Richard Burns Rally, Doom3. I just got a laptop so this is what i'll ... : Pneum0
• Doom 1/2/Skulltag Quake Live ETQW At least one of the Fallout or Troika RPGs A city builder, Dawn of ... : jet-poop
• EvE: Online, Bejeweled, Unreal 3, Team Fortress 2, Joint Operations: Escalations.... and probally in th... : megreedy
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  Doom, Quake and Half-Life. : ETPC1
  • Oh, and Duke. : ETPC1
• Silent Hill 2 Silent Hill 3 Max Payne Max Payne 2 Team Fortress 2 Portal Fallout Fallout 2 Fallou... : Legolas5
• TF2 CS:S L4D UT3 COD:WAW : JediDwag
• Fallout 3 Left 4 Dead Company of Heroes Civ IV : usedillusion
• Counter-Strike Source, Sims 3 and RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 +Expansions : TrustAvidity
• Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Garou: Mark of the Wolves, and Company of Heroes : Caliwayz
• starcraft, diablo, quake are always my first installs on a new setup : happynoodle
• ERotMK, DoD:S, TF2, Hitman(2 or BM depending on computer). : Cliffzorz
• World of Warcraft Medieval II: Total War : Confrustrating
• I actually just formatted, and installed: Battlefield 2 Chessmaster Command & Conquer: First Decade ... : NOX020189
• I made the mistake of letting a friend use the computer a few nights ago. The other night I had a hankeri... : GrimmyD

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  i wasn't expecting that hahahha : Demius
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    i was expecting the bull to start sparking and break down. : xxiv
    • hahah, that would have been even better. I figured she would get thrown off pretty fast though, apparentl... : MagicWishMonkey
    • yeah, I was expecting to the bull to barely move under the weight : prime8
• 8 seconds aint got nothin on her. : Slowtreme
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  That led me to this: http://www.break.com/index/slap_fest.html Why would they do this?! LOL. : Super Sparker
  • Maybe the are high on crack? : MagicWishMonkey
  • Because women are stupid, etc : foo
  • daddy didn't love them : headbone
  • they ate the heart of a shifter in a pie : mwasher
  • the local radio station used to have slap contests for tickets : Slowtreme
  • SO HARDDDDDDDDDDDDDD : kgargs
  • because maryann was there : jenisthebest
  • Practice for first dates. : hawke
  • I could watch this all day. : Mad Brahmin Disease
  • here's 2 guys doin it for u gheys http://www.break.com/index/two_guys_face_off_in_slap_war.html : spectr3
  • The one on the left kept turning her head. I'd say she is DQed : PointlesS76
  • what the fuck was that all about : prime8
  • Fuck that's hot. : Rauol Duke
  • Is it wrong that I fapped to this? : sukabljat
  • I hope they go deaf and get a detached retina. : thecray
  • Bitch fight club. : Sze Ior
  • I am aroused by this. : fleabug
  • this is almost sexual : mystifier
• aww I actually feel sorry for her : thekidd
• lol fat people : AllYourBase
• I've made a huge mistake : tunis5000
• oh my haha : timaste
• It's true, that the larger the object the slower the appearance of moment. : trove
• damn, i think she went over the mat : jonin
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  awesome http://www.break.com/index/kid-knocks-himself-out-tossing-log.html : _jon
  • The dude who knocked himself out is wearing the gayest pants EVER : hussdelrio
  • a classic : smax
• [ U N F ' D ] : skelom
• comedy gold. LOL!!! i cant stop laughing. : i poop from there
• I like how she rolls off end-over-end like a perfectly spherical beachball. Not even her head obstructed... : LemonJoose
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  http://www.break.com/index/camel-wont-let-chick-ride.html : buzzbat
  • rofl, that camel is pissed. : chilln
  • Smart camel. : thrallie200
  • Can you even imagine how embarrasing that must have been for her? LOL. : LemonJoose
  • HAHAHAHA : bling1bling
  • Hahhaha. : stump
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  fuck http://www.break.com/index/drunk-chick-gets-tazed-multiple-times1.html : thrallie200
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    I am laughing so hard at this: http://www.break.com/index/drunk_chick_gets_tazed.html AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH : thrallie200
    • If I were a police officer, and I had to deal with drunkass dumb fucks on a weekly basis, I think I would... : fishbone
    • hahahaha : smax
• I think I would have pissed my pants with laughter if I were at that bar and drunk : fishbone
• Tagging this for later perusal from work... apparently websense dislikes this site. : Q-ball
• lol @ fat people being fat : Drewus
• Momentum is a bitch. : walker270
• of all the way this could've gone wrong, that was not what i was expecting. LOL. : shyguy74
• http://www.break.com/index/hilarious-swat-team-prank.html : Just A Girl

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  Fuck that. I still want a *GOOD* Spider-man game. : avatar_58
  • There have been OK Spider-man games, I know of no OK Superman games. : one random winner
  • spider man 2 was pretty good : EvilDolemite
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    wrong snes had Maximum Carnage that was awesome. : Iwannaacura
    • Other than the music and playing as Venom that game consisted of just mashing a few buttons. We need swin... : avatar_58
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    Web of Shadows was pretty awesome. : Rauol Duke
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      Seems to be mixed reactions on that. Haven't tried it yet myself. I liked Spider-man 3 but the presentati... : avatar_58
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        I played through it a few months ago and I'd put it as one of my favorite 360 games. : Rauol Duke
        • I thought you were talking about Spider-man 3 at first. Wow. Need to grab Web of Shadows one of these ... : Bull
        • it's the same engine that prototype was built in. they really got the swing mechanic down well. i spent m... : brainchild420
    • I thoroughly enjoyed Web of Shadows. A couple parts annoyed the shit out of me, but overall, very fun gam... : glio1337
    • Isnt that the one with the shittiest voice acting on the planet? I didn't hate it, but it wasn't as good... : jingletard
• Spawn : spiderfill
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  Superman is one of the least interesting retarded heros ever. : Kentor
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    Seriously I've never read a comic, but I never got how Superman is popular. : PointlesS76
    • http://www.aish.com/ci/a/48949071.html : spiderfill
  • Superman and Captain America are the blandest heroes ever. : ihya
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  Oh kotaku: WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH : Entity
  • the news of yesterday, today! : snidely sid
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  Fuck that. Have them make a Catwoman or Robin game. : kikilupo
  • Catwoman: http://pc.ign.com/objects/646/646568.html : Derringer
  • I guess you mean have Rocksteady make a Catwoman game, I read that totally out of context for some reason... : Derringer
• Daredevil : ThomW
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  enable GOD mode in the Batman game; there, now you have your Superman game. : deviantpaul
  • also I'd prefer Punisher to keep up with heroes without magic powers theme : deviantpaul
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  I think a Green Lantern game would be so awesome if done right. Kinda like an "open-universe" where he ha... : wretchedradio
  • Considering the ring uses the inagination of the user it would be very hard to make a video game adaptati... : Judicus
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  superman is far less interesting than batman. batman is mortal. batman is driven by vengeance. batman ... : EvilDolemite
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    Have a Superman game with Darkseid invading earth and butchering everyone he knows left and right, leadin... : hohoh0
    • Superman vs. all the green lanterns after he destroys earth to defeat Darkseid. : one random winner
    • http://twitter.com/hobodarkseid : Rauol Duke
    • That would be so fucking awesome. : thetangent
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    please let's have this discussion about how boring superman is please, okay? it's a really good one. s... : orgcaptainnemo
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      it's not a discussion, it's a fact : EvilDolemite
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        it's your opinion ED. : orgcaptainnemo
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          Naw, it's pretty much fact. Heroes need flaws and need to be mortal or else they are boring. : avatar_58
          • You can definitely write a story in which Superman is mortal. See: Superman The Movie and Superman II (e... : orgcaptainnemo
          • http://mightygodking.com/index.php/2009/08/25/this-issue-superman-doesnt-die/ : Jonathan
          • I disagree. I think Superman is fascinating. Yes, he's not mortal. He's got super strength and the abilit : Modica Sol Solis
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            I disagree, they need challenges to be interesting, not necessarily flaws. The thing I love about Superma... : thetangent
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              Is this from Justice League Unlimited or the first series? : Derringer
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                It's from the second season of the first series. : thetangent
                • No wonder I didn't see that one, thanks. : Derringer
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            There's drama to be mined from the concept of Superman - just because he can do this stuff doesn't mean h : action wombmate
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              The results of his inability to stop some horrible disaster also make for good storytelling. In the Imper... : thetangent
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                Too bad it was only his parents and not Louis or he would have found a way to undo it. : pharom
                • That would be a very different Superman if he had to save Louis every issue. : Jonathan
              • The problem is that you need to TAKE OUT KANSAS to do something like this. Batman gets the shit beat out ... : sammyl
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            I wrote this awhile ago while I was unemployed and hung over: Superman is the better "Superhero," near : pharom
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              The problem here is that you don't seem to include Supermans vast rogues gallery, or take into account so... : thetangent
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                Superman's vast rogues gallery? You've got Lex Luthor and.... Braniac? Seriously, I'm a comic fan a... : Clay
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                  Lex Luthor, Brainiac, Mongul, Mr. Mxyzptlk, Darkseid, Bizarro, Parasite, Toyman, Ultra-Humanite, Doomsday... : thetangent
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                    yeah, but your average dude is going to get to Lex Luthor and go "who?" Batman, people know who joker,... : Clay
                    • I'd argue that's because those characters have had a lot more exposure in the movies than anything else. ... : thetangent
          • rocksteady could do red sun of krypton and it may be good : stgdz
          • Exactly, look what they did to Wolverine, they took a really great character and then ruined them :[ .... : ghost in my shell
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            Superman is only as boring as the writers make him. If you want an interesting Superman, read All-Star S... : Portax
            • Way to make avatar's point. All-Star Superman is amazing because it's about Superman coming to terms with... : Clay
        • Fact. : ieGod
    • the only way there could be a good superman game if it's made by bioware or bethesda : ghost in my shell
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    Only because people don't really tap into the potential of Superman. The main problem people have had : exigence7
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      Pretty much this. I think the best Superman story that I've read are All Star Superman by Grant Morrison.... : kikilupo
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        Have you ever read Kingdom Come? The panel where Old Man Supes gets knocked outta the sky by captain marv... : Juno
        • This is why I really hope that the idea they've been pitching for the next Superman trilogy comes to frui... : ColoradoCNC
    • Superman should have been DC's Dr. Manhattan, but they definitely dropped the ball on setting up that kin... : Modica Sol Solis
    • Or you could pull an Alan Moore during his run on Justice League of America and not only have Superman an... : The Key
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    Superman is just as interesting but for different reasons. There have been some fantastic Superman storie... : Bull
    • I've always felt this way to. People go "Oh, but Batman is vulnerable because he's human!" Oh yeah? Well ... : thetangent
  • Who gives a shit if Batman is mortal. Is he gonna die in a movie or game? No. : jojoeasy
• I prefer to see freakishly long fingernails in the Guinness Book, I don't care about some advertising stu... : Zombie Vonnegut
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  What about Freedom Force? : Nali4Freedom
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    those were stellar games at the time. I'd love to see a newer version. : hamachi
    • they still hold up decently. The hero power creation tool is very powerful, albeit imbalanced. Good tim... : threeup
  • i think Freedom Force never got its due because it glorifies the Silver Age style which is campy and over... : Borzoi
• DEAD POOL!!!!! : voodooraze
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  That's the most retarded world record EVER. : losimagic
  • I don't know, this one is pretty retarded: http://www.wimp.com/streetslalom/ : kevp
• Even though the fairly recent Superman game sucked. I do think they did a good job of handling his invuln... : Iazu
• Guinness seriously did that? : Godhatesfatpeople
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  forget superman, someone had it right yesterday, they need to make double dragon in this game engine. : brainchild420
  • Yesssssss!!!!!!! : dancingpolkabear
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  My overrated game sixth-sense is starting to itch. I get suspicious when I see review scores this unifor... : LemonJoose
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    Maybe you should reserve your opinions for when you actually have something to base them on. The game rea... : Conan
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      I never said anything except that I was suspicious. I hope this game is as good as the reviews indicate. : LemonJoose
      • I'm about 50% in and I'd have to say, at least at this point, it's probably better than many reviewers ar... : Fyunch Click
      • Speculation without evidence seems too much like headlines with questions to me. : Conan
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    Yeah i think they gave a few dozen shackers money to say it's good on here. : kingdepork
    • Where is my mother-fucking "Arkham Asylum is awesome" check?! : obiquatro
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    BioShock was pretty overrated, but whatever. Batman is a quality game, at least play the demo. The full g... : qwpeoriu
    • Bioshock was quite overrated. I also enjoyed the demo of Arkham much more than the entirety of Bioshoc... : Ebu
  • all four of those games are excellent and got similar ratings. : gokart.
  • I think overrated games happen when they are coming off sequels or from a popular studio. GTA IV and Hal... : Lionhart32935
  • Normally I'd agree with you about something being fishy, but this game really is that good. Although pers... : DerHuhnTeufel
• Pff.. we need a new darkwing duck game! :D : m0nkz
• need a Lobo game : retardhumper
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  No, I want Batman, crackdown style. : Clay
  • Oh hell yeah. : Fyunch Click
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    That would be fucking SWEET. : thetangent
    • i've been begging for this for years :( : Clay
  • If that happened, I'd never get to play it.. because it'd be announced and then I'd kinda... explode... : Toraz Chryx
• Why hasn't there been a decent Blade videogame yet? He's a vampire that's also a ninja that cuts up other... : Prozium
• that's the most pathetic PR stunt I've seen since Acclaim wanted to advertise Turok on gravestones. god t... : thebigbeefsandwich

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  Yes, do want. I think it's just about hit the break price for me. : Freon
  • Exactly. $250 for what many people describe as the best upgrade that they've made in a decade or so is ve... : angrytaxman
• Hot technology, but I'll wait until $1/GB : Code RedBeard
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  Too bad newegg raised the price $20. ZipZoomFly has it for $237 but not in stock yet. I don't think sup... : ann thracks
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    As much as I love and swear by NewEgg, this is not the first time I've seen them jack up the price of an ... : EricZBA
    • Yeah. I'll wait and see if I can get a better deal. ZZF had a 20% off deal a few weeks ago. Too bad th... : ann thracks
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      thats Newegg's motto... they do that shit all the time : dignan
      • That's just called smart business : zerog83
    • Nice! Out of stock now and they jacked it back up again to $279! : EricZBA
• sooo tempting... : wendigo
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  Good drive...you can also get an OCZ Vertex that has better sequential writes : mystifier
  • yah I think I'm going to get a OCZ drive when the price comes down and TRIM is added : Shadowdane
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    Just quickly reading the reviews, the reason why this thing is hot shit is it doesn't degrade as much as ... : goatjc
    • The thing is that even with that performance degradation, an SSD will still smoke the fastest hard drives... : Serpico74
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    But the X25 is still king in random reads/writes, which is what's most important for the average desktop ... : sanchez
    • ^^^ This is what people need to know : Waffles!
    • The truth is either is muuuuuuuch faster than a traditional desktop hard drive. I bet in a blind test bet... : aggressor
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  I want an SSD so badly, I just need enough room for the OS and Steam folder. 160GB is possible but its st... : Serpico74
  • When SSDs get into the 250-320gb range at high performance I am ALL over one in my MacBook. : rudds
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  I just got my X25 G2 SSD in the mail from new egg today. Got here in one day despite ups ground. I can't ... : pgharavi
  • Man they raised the price $40 on it from when I ordered Wednesday afternoon :o : pgharavi
• Wow, that is super tempting : boarder2
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  Still waiting until October. : ant_hillbilly
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    What's new for SSDs in October? : Serpico74
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      TRIM firmware is released by Intel when Windows 7 ships Supposedly, will probably be delayed :/ : Beady
      • Ok, I thought he was talking about new SSD models, I knew about TRIM in W7. I'm think I'm going to keep h... : Serpico74
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    same here. gonna wait for Oct. 22 retail release of win7 then look for the best SSD option at that time ... : smax
    • I thought I was going to do this too, but now I think I'll actually hold off on upgrading to Windows 7 un... : Serpico74
• I'm probably going to put one of the 160GB in my M1730 with 8GB of memory and Windows 7 next year. Maybe ... : Jonathan
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  Was it in stock? I see auto-notify. : givemesnacks
  • must have sold out right away : baconisgod
• Do want, but I'll wait til the $$$/GB ratio is a bit more favorable. : RookieCAF
• *sigh* Not in stock. : ArbyBean
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  From those tests the other day, the ocz vertex turbo smoked the x25mg2 in every test but the one that sho... : festivalman
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    Which website? Tech Report, Anand? : Serpico74
    • Big Cleetuses Hardwear Testen Paeg : Robotic Puppy Eater
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    from here: http://www.pcper.com/article.php?aid=766 : festivalman
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      Those tests show that the Intel drive still wins in consumer scenarios other than sequential writes (vide... : ThereCanBeOnlyOneCat
      • What I feel it showed, is that the intel is configured to be awesome in a few areas, but varies massively... : festivalman
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  ...aaand its gone. : Robotic Puppy Eater
  • they'll put it back up in a few hours with another $20 added with "limited inventory" designation : dignan
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  Tom's managed to get 3.4GB/s with 16 X25E's http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-6gb-raid,2388.html : sanchez
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    whats a standard xfer rate for a single 'normal' 3.5" SATA drive? : dignan
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      30-40MB/s sequential, probably 10MS/s random : sanchez
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        happen to know the same # for a single SSD drive setup? im so bad with #'s... : dignan
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          Well the X25M can do about 70MB/s write and the X25E about 170MB/s : sanchez
          • wow, thats a huge step in between the 2. Im going to assume Read times are much faster ??? : dignan
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        maybe 8 years ago, a modern 7200rpm disk is more like 100MB/s sustained read : Toraz Chryx
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          ah sorry, I was thinking of write speeds : sanchez
          • i did ask about xfer rate : dignan
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    am i correct in thinking that with all those drives they still only have 64gb of storage space? : dignan
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      Yeah the X25E are based on SLC memory so they're generally half the capacity as the X25M's which are MLC ... : sanchez
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        i meant with the RAID setup, thanks for the info sanchez : dignan
        • Oh well no, they have 1TB of storage in that setup since it's RAID0 so it combines the capacities. : sanchez
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  Great. The 160 was still out of stock, so after doing a lot of thinking I decided to get the 80, and as s... : ventro
  • Let us know how it goes man, tempted by one too now the price is almost sane. : node
• well Iv gone about 20 years with old rotating metalic disc's... I will wait another 6 months or so until ... : godm0de
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  Newegg have gone back to typical Newegg behaviour, the 80gb went 229$ 249$ 279$ in the past 48 hours as i... : abrasion
  • Not saying I agree, But they are in business to make money. I doubt you'll see anyone "Giving these away"... : RookieCAF